/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1548318
That's the last thing you need, to be honest.

>>1548318
Shirogane Noel wanted to talk about books in her streams, but due to copyright laws, she can't. She can only talk about books that are in public domain.

>>1548320
>you cant talk about book because of copyright
dude what

>>1548318
behead vtubers and their simpathizers

>>1548321
Fucked that up. I meant a read along. She has shown interest multiple times in wanting to do some literature in her streams.

>>1548321

Cover corp is rly weird about copyright. You'd think they would be free to play whatever games they want too since literally everyone on twitch does it but nope. Not surprised they go to the extreme of banning talk about books too.

So this is just Max Headroom stuff with big t-t-t-t-t-t-tittied animooo grills

>>1548325
based I know

*hhmff*

>>1548320
That really should be fine if they were covering the western cannon. So many good books are in the public domain. Most of what /lit/ talks about is public domain works. It just means vtuber can't talk about infinite jest or harry potter.

>>1548318
>>>/vt/
Why is this phenomena a thing? This is now a behavioral group psychology thread.

>>1548329
get with the times old man

There IS a board for this now, you know-you know?

>>1548330
The times. Ah, the times!
It 1985 (or 6, or 7, whatever)
... s-s-s-s-seems like 20 minutes ago.
HOW time flies [backwards] —WHEN YOURE HAVING FUN

>>1548327
>>1548331
>He wore short blond sideburns and mustache, while his chin was always clean-shaven, and his blond, reddish, lightly curled and shortcut, soft hair left completely free his massive, domed, quite strikingly high and conspicuous forehead. Behind the glasses his clear, blue eyes looked at people and things calmly and gently, neither dreamily nor staring. Around the fine, small-lipped mouth often played a friendly smile, which with the years sharpened and which betrayed an inner irony, just as many noticed in Stirner a "quiet inclination to ridicule." This trait, attributed by others to bitterness, had certainly not yet gripped him in the years in which he appears to us here, nor had ever been used to wound anyone.

>His nose was moderately large, strong, ending in a point; his chin was bold. Stirner's hands were especially handsome: white, well cared for, slim, "aristocratic" hands.

>In short he gave a thoroughly pleasant impression. He appeared self-confident and calm, without hasty and jerky movements-with a light trace of pedantry.

>>1548328
That anon is partially wrong. The company that owns Hololive doesn’t take any chances with this shit so there’s no chance of them literature even if the people who do the streaming want to. Which is a disappointment since one of them actually read the Iliad and crime and punishment. So, I want to know how western works are translated in Japanese.

>>1548330
>it’s all so tiresome
Give me a few good reasons I shouldn’t activate the Samson Option and cause the permanent extinction of this horrible species right now.

>>1548334
>The company that owns Hololive doesn’t take any chances with this shit so there’s no chance of them literature even if the people who do the streaming want to.
but i thought they were so wholesome and genuine, you mean there's a big company that directs what they say and do?

fuck this thread

>>1548329
First: Marketing studies show that advertising works best when it's either a person or a cute animal. An anime girl is both basically a puppy and a person combined.

Second: In the age when people have now had the internet since birth, their perceptions of perfection and interaction is now based in the digital world.

Third: People watch streams because of the FOMO feeling. They like things being live. This is why television and news and all such things are so popular. The feeling of live, being the first to get the information, and the feeling of participation in that live setting are all the dopamine hits as to, partly, why streaming became more popular that lets plays.

Fourth: streaming content is easier and cheaper to make in bulk. We live in a consumerist attention society. We now strive to make the most content that gets the most eyes on it for the longest period of time. Why write an essay when no one will read it. Why make a 5 minute video when no one will see it? Instead, stream for 8 hours a day.

Fifth: Vtuber technology is one of the few things that has come out recently that genuinely feels like the future. Participating in what feels like the future temporarily allows people to stop feeling like they have been trapped in 2008 for the past 20 years. We finally get to live in the age of science fiction and participate in it.

Six: Isolation. With the mix of the youth staying online most of the time and the pandemic hitting, ratings for streaming have skyrocketed. People who work or study from home can now have someone on in the background 24/7. As if they have a friend with them all day that talks at them and occasionally interacts with them for money

Seven: There is an all around pleasant apparatus of mass appeal. These vtubers, and all other streamers, have garnered personalities that appeal to the broadest audiences. They are constantly in good spirits or in dramatic tension because these are the keys to retaining a large audience of scared and isolated people. This is why even those that talk politics on streams maintain a particular audience. Drawing channels don't want drama because the vtuber would have to critically think about it and break character

Eight: It allows the mass public to believe they can do it too. Because it's only a series of processes that allow the ugliest person in the world to become a cute vtuber, and because all they do is talk to people and play games, the job itself is appealing to everyone at large. They believe they can participate and do it themselves. It keeps them glued because it gives a false modern equivalent of the american dream.

>>1548338
damn you're good at this, are you in marketing or something?

>>1548338
. . .

>>1548338
Good analysis m8.
t.vtuber

>>1548339
Undergrad in communication, now a lawyer. Did marketing and graphic design during the in-between years. Thanks to /lit/ I've dived into a bit of stuff like Baudrillard and Zizek which has helped me be able to properly articulate the things I see and despise.

>>1548342
Nice. Hope vtubers relaxes you.

>>1548342
>see and despise
My misanthropy grows as time passes. Never had my finger been closer to the Big Red Button.

>>1548343
I occasionally watch Hasan Piker on a heavily political day, but I don't really watch streams because I don't like the feelings linked with all the previous things I mentioned. I'm too easily susceptible to shallow entertainment and shitposting taking up my whole day. Hard to be productive under such circumstances.

>>1548345
>Hard to be productive under such circumstances.
Opposite from me, I just enjoy the moment

>>1548342
>Undergrad in communication, now a lawyer.
At least some one is doing something with their lives.

>>1548322
Aren’t you getting tired of this shit?

>>1548338
quality analysis. I think the FOMO is what gets me the most.

>>1548318
That Indonesian chick knows 5 languages and is a massive bookwoem (self-declared)

Browse more retard

it's extremely niche and complicated
even a car talk is better

nip lit and some western classic like orwell: amemori sayo

>>1548318
Polka does, you would know if you were a member.

Fanfiction is literature!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvzGTFYWoKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGhHyeYUCEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwBFINwrDXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=man_R2QUx-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kl56uS00qI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHCB8Y59ZcA

>>1548318
>Why is there no vtuber that talks about literature?
there's polka

Most of them are barely literate. I don't think they can understand real literature like pic related.

>>1548324
Considering what happened in the holocaust, I don't blame them.

>>1548324
It's not weird, they're following the law. Technically any streamer that doesn't have permission to stream a game is breaking the law but it's hardly worth pursuing. However, Cover are a massive business so if Activision want to sue them for streaming games or something they could probably make a big chuck of settlement money at least.

>>1548318
The english rat vtuber been reading Lovecraftian stories for her streams. Thats probably the best you got.

>>1548325
This person is a tranny btw. The other /lit/ monkeys that painfully stand out are too.

>>1548320
>She can only talk about books that are in public domain.

Every book worth reading is already in the public domain. She could even read Aesop's fables if she is strapped for content.

>>1548985
this thread must've been moved from there to here

>>1548999
Does anyone know the state of japanese book copyright law? I'm sure it's retarded.

>>1548318
Oh no not the book tuber shit again

>>1548318
There's a JP indie that a bookworm. Her whole theme is library stuff. Humino Yomiyama, I think.

>>1548320
that's actually suprising. i thought whores aren't attracted with nerdy stuff?

>>1549275
>check her channel
>apex
>apex
>apex
why are nips so autistic with this kusogame?

>>1549838
she took a 4 year unspecified STEM course in uni, anon
probably as insurance if her streaming career didn't work out, but she did graduate

>>1548323
That makes more sense. Like a verbatim story time thing is different from a book club discussion type. Which sucks chode.

>Someone find the Nip translation of Thus Spoke Zarathustra

>no /mu/ vtuber
>I'll never get called a pleb by a cute anime girl for thinking Sung Tongs is better than STGSTV

I don't want my vtubers to corrupt themselves with the printed jew.

>>1548538
Read Chainsaw Man onegai...

>>1549908
there are a lot of /mu/ addict vtubers. but they definitely wil not criticize your taste, or at least not the same way as you said

>>1549119
From your pic it's obvious Japanese law doesn't matter because American (the most restrictive) will always take place unless you disable your streams to US viewers.

>>1549884
that's even more surprising, isn't japan has some kind of misoginity? there was a case where a med school passed majority male examinees on purpose. if she's smart enough to graduate stem-related school, she may have better chance with anything that has majority of females

Risu reading kumo ga nani desu ka was comfy as fuck.
I wish I was a grill so I could just vtube and read

>>1550239
Well that's med school, she just got her bachelors. People were speculating based on her responses that it wasn't a pre-med course but was still a hard science, so probably chemistry or physics.

>>1549894
yes but i'd love it if one of the girls did a "book club" type thing, where you're expected to read a specific book on your own and the stream is her discussing it with the chat.
hell considering bookwalker sponsored the EN generation reading some light novels they probably could make that a sponsored stream.

>>1548318
Korone has read IT by Stephen King and she's so proud of it

>>1548324
Because Japanese copyright laws are actually and actively enforced.

The day of reckoning comes to Twitch too when developers stop looking the other way..

>note: you can't read a book in Twitch stream either without risking DMCA ticket

>>1548318
>I need this on my life.
Just go to
>>>/lit/

Also, it'd be boring ass content. For anyone to actually do it, you'd need a bookworm from EN

>>1548318
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWRt-KFHLtpeyOj6UsENqQBs66P_SB804
Here you go

>>1548999
You have to understand that JAPANESE books that are in the public domain are much fewer.

>>1549864
Viewer numbers.
Apex make number go up .
Fun, niche content make number go down

>>1550239
People only think Noel is dumb because of her massive boobas but she's top 3 with Botan and Choco in intelligence. Just have to look at her English learning streams to see how fast she learns (I assume with offstream study)

Abby literally streams a Bible study

There is light novel vtuber
https://youtube.com/channel/UCwx6UL368Zb8ruqo8aeZexA

Oh wow. Mods actually move the thread to /vt/. What does /vt/ think about this post? >>1548338

>>1548318
There is a nice one who started recently, focused on SF literature, Arypie
She did her model/rigging herself too

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/947274803?collection=rZ7yXSWBahY3_A

Her whole theme is SF actually, being an alien herself - which work lore viwse to excuse being a NEET with no social ability and autism : she's trying to understand humans and read about them and isn't the best at communicating
She's still improving but she now even soundscapes prepared with appropriate music/sfx and change her voice depending on the characters, so it's promising.
Found her twitter in her bio https://twitter.com/ArypieVirtual

>>1554893
>being an alien herself - which work lore vise to excuse being a NEET with no social ability and autism : she's trying to understand humans and read about them and isn't the best at communicating
genius, guess I'm an alien too now

>>1554601
I think it's a pretty fucking gay blogpost written by an autist with enough time on his hands to overthink something very simple. Please keep this cringe shit out of here.

>>1548318
I once saw a clip of Polka talking about poems.

>>1554893
Seconding this. Her kayfabe works precisely because she based it on herself and her interests. She's cute and funny and reads some interesting short stories that are enhanced by soundscapes she uses for immersion. Pretty unique stuff. She does zatsudans and readings more than games at this point.

>>1554967
Gotta say, her using her lack of experience and social ineptitude to make her character work with her weaknesses was smart. She has a lot of autist traits but it just comes off as endearing because she was smart enough to choose a kayfabe that fits.

>>1554893
well that feels similar to an audiobook
choice of music near the middle is pretty good tho, even if a bit quiet

>>1555005
Oh, so /vt/ doesn't actually think critically about things. Back to /lit/ for meeeee.

>>1551810
Would a Japanese translation of something like Iliad, for example, be public domain, because the original work is millennia old, or would it be the intellectual property of the translator?

>>1554601
>>1555160
Overall I agree, those are pretty obvious points, I'd say the only downside is it's harder to have interaction during a reading, it's limited to talking about it after it's done, and you're also limiting yourself to novels like this one seeems to be doing >>1554893, because of duration (and multiple streams for one book is harder to follow for the audience)

I think it has potential and could get bigger, not sure if doing it live is that worth it compared to recording it but talking with the reader seems pretty fun yes

>>1555213
I skipped trough the VOD and it seems the interactions are done after the reading to not break the immersion I suppose, it's understandable
The SFX & music are nice and well done but she should have someone else piloting it during the reading to have more of it and time it perfectly

>>1555160
We still have to clean out the tourists that try to make every new board a shitposting destination, gonna be a few months because vtubers draw a lot of anime hate

wow I got a warning for calling books "the printed jew"
trying to shut me down tells me I'M RIGHT!
vtubers should only consume light novels and manga, fuck (((literature)))

I will talk about this cat because I like this cat.
Former youtube chuuba who recently switched to twitch.

>>1554893
Needs more confidence and music a bit louder
Novel choice is too mainstream for me but probably good for people who never any SF read in their life
Should put the things on youtube tho cause it's a pain to load twitch on your phone

>>1551755
Read earlier in the thread, this thread was moved from /lit/ in the first place.

>>1555549
Check her links, she's recently started archiving her streams to youtube.

I want to talk about this chuuba because I like this cat. She used to stream on youtube but switched to twitch because it tends to be friendlier to smaller streamers, but she still uploads her VODs to youtube, especially her reading streams. Sometimes she reads short stories, mostly the ones she picks herself but she does a weekly reading of Player of Games. I just enjoy listening to cute girls reading me stories, but the book is on my backlog and I'm a bit busy, so she really hooked me in.
Player of Games by Ian Banks part1
https://youtu.be/4kYKyhP3RTQ
Player of Games by Ian Banks part2
https://youtu.be/qVTgkiefHLI
I vibe to her tastes vidya gaems (Rimworld, Factorio, Subnautica) but that's a different discussion altogether.

But if you're looking for non-fiction or more esoteric topics, well there's no philosophy chuuba yet. There's a linguistic chuuba though. But he acts more like a lecturer than a conventional streamer. I think he just started two weeks ago? He's currently doing a lecture on the road to the English language. I don't know if male chuubas are up your alley, but just throwing it out there.
https://www.twitch.tv/woyde_ch
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS9t3R926rdGiP5X0lNutZg

>>1555260
>but she should have someone else piloting it during the reading to have more of it and time it perfectly
This would be ideal. She's only been streaming for 1.5 months now and doesn't seem to have anyone helping her out.
>>1555549
>Novel choice is too mainstream for me but probably good for people who never any SF read in their life
She said she pretty much only started reading Asimov because people wanted her to in one of her vods.

>>1548866
Hell if I'll listen to the dumbass stories of lovecraft this nigger can't write for shit

>>1548325
Essentially, yes. Max Headroom is the original vtuber

>>1550828
>readalong
Now that's a good idea

You may laugh at it, but some vtubers talking about their childhoods beat most of literature I have read.

Polka used to do nightales ASMR reading for members, and it seems that she wants to keep doing it

Not exactly literature but you can check out Akatsuki Uni.

GOAT IN KONGOU!
SHE IS /HERE/!

>>1557737
Polka has already read Kafka. She just needs to read it again on stream.

>>1559961
based

>>1550828
I don't watch her too often, but I think Yoro does this occasionally. I don't think she's had one recently though
https://www.twitch.tv/yoroyoyo?sr=a

>>1554601
It explains it well, but I dislike that it's negatively toned. That dismissive conservative outlook is just as much of a hopeless distraction as the content that it scorns, but less interesting and less fun. Vtubers are an interesting facet of the modern world, they make people happy while sidestepping a lot of the flaws that 3DPD idols have.

>>1555792
>Iain Banks read by a Scottish virtual catgirl
O Brave New World!

>>1555163
>Would a Japanese translation of something like Iliad, for example, be public domain, because the original work is millennia old, or would it be the intellectual property of the translator?
The latter. The translator owns the IP of the translation they made. Since it's in public domain, the translator does not need to get any sort of license from the original author to make / sell the translation.

>>1554601


It misses the most obvious and important point: people started watching virtual streamers en mass once they appeared all of a sudden, because it was giving them something that theretofore wasn't being given to them by prior media. Something similar to why kemono friends or mlp became phenomena as well. Consider the implications of this.

No institution or multi-national entity or other major power center ran ads on broadcast telling people to watch girls with anime avatars do stuff on the internet. It was almost completely a function of 'community outgrowth'; sharing word-of-mouth, and algorithms autonomically noticing and highlighting a trend without operator intervention. To put a finer point on it, you could say that such a development was almost inevitable even; there were needs not being met, an open void, with vtubers being an example of something grown up and sucked in to fill it. In fact, you could say that such a pathway of genesis is the only way something like that *could* have come about, in the present era.

Why would any viewer bother to pay attention to such things when broadcast media is already everywhere within easy reach? Rather, you can hardly escape it even, even if you wanted to. Which is not an accident. The reason why we can speak of such a thing as a 'vtuber boom' in the first place, is the same reason why those same institutions would never have made such a thing to begin with.

Because the overweening trend in legacy media to date - in news, in movies, in shows, in print, in art - is that their presently dominant curators no longer offer anything except weaponization, material whose one and only purpose is the infliction of harm on the viewers it is supposed to target. The apotheosis of this character is that it does not even bother with trying to dress up it's shivs in veneers of entertainment or edification, just pure demoralization, pure pronouncement of power.

Is it so hard to understand in that light? If you had a choice between something poisonous to your spirit, and something that wasn't, that would be a foregone conclusion. Which is why a great deal of the game is of course in taking away that choice. If there is one task the incumbent priesthood never tires in, it is in the convergence of any and all other institutions into becoming yet another soundingboard for broadcasting it's articles of faith, irrespective of whatever purpose they may have been 'supposed' to be about originally. Indeed, there certainly may well come a time when serious efforts are drawn up for converging 'vtubing' as well, in the not so distant future.

In short, young men watch chubas because to them, it is like they stumbled upon an island of warmth in a seemingly endless winter trying to suffocate them.

>>1577066
Holy mother of based.

If I was a chuuba, I would follow my natural mutt instinct to insert politics into everything by reading Plato's Republic on stream.

>>1554601
doesn't say a single word about audience interaction which is the dividing line between uninteractive legacy media such as books and films, and the internet
take for example zentreya who made a career out of the audience roasting, spooking, etc. said vtuber, and generally fucking with her in real time during streams, and reacting to their shenanigans

>>1548324
Considering they nuked almost 50% of their talent's content after being copyright struck by Capcom, I'd say it's warranted.

And lets be honest, Cover is big and sort of well known that it'll be a big blow to investors if ever they get hit by a lawsuit.

Most Twitch streamers/Vtubers are too small for companies to even go after that it's not worth it