/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>15744788

What kind of situation is this? Lamo

>>15744930
It's a feature.
You like?

>>15744893 (me)
While testing this on a random CCTV stream, the viewer count suddenly started spiking with 0 activity in chat.
Previously I was the only one watching.

Happy New Year number bros!
>Also
Just got back from vacation, anything new happened ?

>>15745045
nene showed that susan started a new culling season and the Nips are using all their autism to prove YT japan wrong

>>15745033
someone else might have been testing their bot farms lul

>>15744462
>>15744776
Looks like I exist, consistently +1 stream viewcounts within a few seconds, but I also have Premium.

Is there anyone with Premium who doesn't exist?

>>15744930
Susan doesn't like anime girls on her christian platform

>>15745106
Around 44 hours to 1M?

>>15741942
>>15743429
>>15743708
so it doesn't get lost

>>15745068
>nips tryana prove YT japan wrong
Wrong as in? The cull did happen?or it did not?

>>15745068
>Nips are using all their autism to prove YT japan wrong
I don't see them

I'm scared about tonight 3D live number....

>>15744815
The most interesting part is that Millie, who does some hard GFE pandering in her ASMR streams, sold the second least.

>>15745090
I have premium but the funny thing is I am not registered as a viewer at all. I tried on both phone and pc for 5 minutes each. So youtube-kun how do you even flag a premium account hello

>>15745151
that it is happening but YT japan doesnt want to give an appropiate answer

>>15744930
>elite 2D streamers have unpersoned fans because Susan hates incels and DT
>3DPD streamers need help from daddy google to justify Susan’s investment to buy them off twitch

>>15741942
>>15743429
>>15743486
>>15743708
so it doesn't get lost
added context of the second image

>>15745162
see>>15741942

>>15745106
>>15745129
Unless i fucked up my timezones it's 43 hours 56 mins. That puts it as the second fastest holo cover ever after Gura/Mori King and 4th fastest overall, just a few minutes faster than Mori's Off with their heads but slower than Unison.

>>15745163
15-20k

This cull shit is inconsistent as fuck, right now I'm watching a 1 view pokemon stream without adblocker and I'm not counted, earlier I watched another pokemon stream without adblocker but I was counted, both used my main account

>>15745172
Looks like premium isn't even something their bot accounts for.
>>15745151
Youtube is refusing to say anything other than scripted responses.
At the very least, adblock does remove your viewer count even if you're a premium user.

>>15745090 (me)
>>15745172
Unsurprised, just wanted to be sure. Looks like premium isn't a qualifier one way or the other.

It's weird, I'm subbed to a lot of holo channels, some before debut, I use adblock, LiveTL, HoloDex, multiple tabs frequently, and only got Premium recently. I'm a western viewer. Why am I not a ghost?

>>15744930
So, it seems that youtube culls approximately 80% of the viewers for chuubas.

>>15745181
it seems that they might have flagged the accounts that were reporting this, this is one
https://twitter.com/vyoutubebug
they don't even give him automated replies anymore

>>15745172
lmao that's so fucked. I have 2 accounts one normal and one for vtubers (with premium) and both are counting as views.

>>15745181
Knowing nips. I hope they dont let this go easy and keep pestering YTjp untill they admit it

The funny thing is the solution to the numbers seems to be to bot new accounts.

>>15745254
Nah I have Premium and active adblock both and I count.

>>15745171
I can come up with two reasons:
1) Her fans have used up all their funds for her birthday
2) They don't really associate her avatar with her as much as Enna's

I guess it's a matter of time until schizo from both sides start making bot account to boost numbers.

It's time to apoligize.

its over...

>>15745311
chink bot farms skyrocketed mikorone stream CCV yesterday when fbk appeared on stream but was culled later

>>15745369

Looks like google still can't process the proper spelling normally.

I went on twitch and there this chick called Emiru and she mogging hololive with 50k views. She part of otk crew that veibae is hanging out with Vshojo inclining to the moon.

>>15745311
But why the fuck YT are flagging the user accounts watching and interacting on streams like bots when the real bots re counted as real people?

>>15745277
if only gooks also get dragged on this as well, imagine

>>15745378
Hopefully they save Towa tonight then, Fubuki's in it.

>>15745277
But what can YTJP even do, unless the nips can somehow put pressure on susan, going after her JP underlings isn't really going to do anything.

>>15745446
Nah, they're actually view farming and Botting, so they know they're guilty AF.

With all this fuckery happened i guess it's time we graduate numberbros...

youtube japan won't do shit unless a gachikoi pull a kiyoani on them

I'm convinced, Susan watches 2view indies.

IRyS...

>>15745469
Losing a whole 1stworld country whorth of investment can be a pretty big deal i assume

>>15745529
That would probably lead to vtubers getting booted off the platform then anything else.

>>15745183
Didn't Valkyrae collab with US politicians? I wouldn't be surprised if she's getting unfair promotion.

WTF Sui-chan didn't hit at least 10K on her Marika stream.... that cant be real no fucking way susan is fuck up

>>15745644

>>15745644
she chipped at that 8k wall for 6hrs and failed

>>15745565
lower than sanner peak...

>>15745469
whitelist japan

>>15745662
Lmao, this looks like the chart for penny stocks when only algos are trading it. Such fuckery

>>15745627
Politician collab arc in next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJHdT_ie9U

>it took almost two days to hit 1 million
Reclining.

>>15745772
It's good considering the track record of the EN main channel though

>>15745772
shitty channel doesn't deserve numbers

>>15745750
That's actually the only normal part of the chart, the spikes are for each race in mario kart, it's always like this.

>>15745772
It had 50k views deleted at some point.

>>15745772
Put that on any Myth channel and it'd make it in half the time. Yes, even Kiara's.

>>15745772
43h56m

>>15745772
uh, second fastest holo cover ever is bad now?

>Hololive, Nijisanji, Jun, Utaites, Miku, MMDer, MADer, 1stTake, NipsMusicians, Sutoprince, Pmaru, Kizuna, 774, 2views chuubas
>Come Home

Irys your numbers...

Yeah shit's fucked. My main account isn't considered human by YouTube. I even turned off adblock and closed every other tab to be sure but I'm still not counted. Kinda hurts to know that I never helped my oshi incline in CCV even though I religously watch her.

>>15745900
Fix your shit first

Calling it now, Maimoto's Mahjong draft is going to get 50k+ again tonight and some people are going to say cull doesn't exist, despite knowing it's been completely random.

Actual botting is the only way to bypass the bullshit flags created to fight bots in the first place. Sasuga youtube

>>15745923
Same brother, we are ngmi...
That won't stop me from watching at all though, I just feel sad because it's like underpaying their work

>>15745947
maybe they will post that because if it gets the gold then how is it culled?

>>15745892
>uh, second fastest holo cover ever is bad now?
In the wide world of covers this hitting it so slowly is unsightly. People are meant to progress. Anything less than 11~ hours is an embarrassment.

>>15746017
says who?

>>15745772
Not bad for something people were calling an "overhyped announcement"

>>15745947
Well the niji nips dont believe it not sure about the fags here

>>15745772
Maybe people just got bored of this song already.

>>15746072
there should had been an update over there, because no way that the amount of viewers lize got for her outfit reveal didnt made at least one to get a little bit suspicious about this, unless they only care about kuzuha and the main channel

>>15746051
Me.

>>15746051
Says him, who wants to say "reclining" and be right

So every year december susan does some housecleaning and flags accounts as spam accounts.Reset button for everyone and tell everyone you need to grind again. By next year everyone is gonna be fucking 3views.

>>15746139
I made this post

>January 2023
>Gold range is 8-10k

>>15746179
>By 2025, 2view is gonna be a term of endearment.

Damn.

>>15746274
the 2holos...
reminiscent of the time we spent on /jp/...
maybe they even delete the board and takes us back...

>>15746315
>/vt/ is deleted
>we try going back to /jp/
>realize the board got deleted too
bros...

Youtube lead dev is a niji-in who got canned with a vendetta against chuubas

>>15745900
not today, demon

>Sana joins Mori's stream
>Numbers actually go down

>>15746431
>he thought "sana debuff" was a meme

>>15745900
yeah maybe if you don't lost your shit at around 20kccv that might be an option.

>>15746431
>Numbers are going up
apologize

>>15746537
Shitposters don't care about facts~

Aren't the Mori numbers kinda normal? Even if they're slightly lower, this isn't anything big like what JP got hit with. Same with Ina and Kiara.

>>15744788
The new queens of /#/

Youtube is implementing the squid game algorithm on viewers

I know recently there’s been an issue on mobile Youtube apps where the viewer count no longer automatically updates. I wonder if the cull is related to that.

>>15746598
That appears to be the case.
Whereas some of the JP have gotten like, half their numbers slashed, Mori looks to only really be missing say....15-20%?
Goddamnit I hate this. I hate this inconsistent bullshit from YT.
Whereas IRyS is definitely tracking way below what she usually gets, like SHE'S been slashed 40-50%. 4k Floor, that's pretty much what IRyS always gets, but now? Not even 3k? Even with overlaps that's still fucky.

There literally should be atleast 2 viewers since there's one who's actively chatting and there's me who's watching

>>15746774
welcum to the kurabu

>open IRyS stream
>"Oh, god! Not a robot"
botbros... we're NGMI...

>>15746774
I'm pretty sure you are a bot though

>>15746774
could you test on a stream from your region? maybe it's something related
I won't ask for a picture, I just need confirmation

>>15746751
Oh, yeah; IRyS got hit hard. She should be getting 5-8k for this Animal Crossing stream but will probably get half of that.

>>15746774
>another PHbros

>>15746751
If it's about JP, then I guess Irys might the most effected? Hololyzer released a data about unique chatters overlap between holo members, and Irys is basically the top 2 priorities in EN with Gura for the JP viewers to chat during streams.

>>15746124
It's all for shitposting. If the cull doesn't hit major Niji events then it doesn't exist.

>same stream
>different platform
youtube cull?

This new set of shenanigan has sucked the life out of me. I'm dune with these numbers. There was some sort of consistency and trend reading before but now it's arbitrary and random.

>>15746748
All the phone users are not counted into the ccv now

>>15746774
>50% cut for a literal 2view
>there could be another anon watching but not being counted
And susan wants to become a streaming platform? How the fuck did shadowbanning become the default reaction from techtrannies?

>>15746989
>a year ago

>>15747208
pajeets

>>15746989
>stream from a year ago
dont think you are so clever shitposter-kun

>>15747208
Pajeets are running the site

>>15747208
No competition, they could cap all streamers at 3 viewers and still make bank

Huh, our usual schizos died and is replaced by Vshojo(false)fags?

>>15747297
Nah, they were around yesterday, give em a few hours to get off from work.

Luca was doing polls in his stream. Good participation rate but nothing suspicious. Don't think he's being culled, or if he is not at the same level as Holos or some NijiJP.

>>15744462
Ok, so I just spend 40 minutes testing this

I have a pretty old account
Never posted a single comment on Youtube, in chat or in comment section
Only watch chuubas the whole day
Like every chuuba video I open, even if I don't plan to stick around
Sometimes watch multiple videos at once on two screens
Have uBlock always enabled, never turn it off, even for my oshi

I'm still counted as view. Even with uBlock on.
As soon as I press play on a video, I'm counted. I checked this on my phone, which is on data, while my PC is on Wi-Fi. If pause the video, I stop being counted immediately. Pick related is supposed to show how viewcount goes to 2 when I start the video, and then goes to 3 when I open it on my phone.
If I mute the video, I'm still being counted
If I open a second tab or a new window, I stop being counted for current stream and immediately start being counted for a new one

And here's the kicker: sometimes I don't get counted right away. It may take a lot of time to get me counted, 5 minutes or so, even on a stream with zero views. Also, sometimes my view gets counted, but then after like 5 minutes gets deleted. I assume it's because of the uBlock. It doesn't happen every time. When it happens though, I can disable uBlock and I get my view back, not always immediately, but pretty quickly.

Obviously, it's just a quick test on a random stream (which is not from my region, btw) so take it with a grain of salt.

My personal crackpot theory is that the way Youtube verifies if you're a viewer or not right now is by observing your behavior for a period of time (maybe up to 20 minutes), such as, how you interact with the Youtube tab, how fast you click on stuff, where you hovering your mouse, etc. And this is why it takes them forever to add viewers to the count. This is also why peaks are now basically non-existent, because by the time viewers got verified, they already left. And Youtube also re-verifies you for every stream.

>>15747208
We can patch it. Trust us.

>>15747333
It would be great if we could test this from watching on embeded sites like Holodex that literally don't interact with the platform as a whole other than requesting video and chat

>>15744930
>Miko stream has been active for about 5 hours now
>drive by tourists leave a like then fuck off because they'd rather wait for clips

Vs
>streamer who just opened stream
>and actually has an active audience watching and not acting as if they understand kawaii baby uguu Japanese

>>15747333
Good work anon. Goes to show CCV is really a trash metric

>>15746599
Gross

>>15746943
Sorry, cant't find any 2view flip streamers on YouTube at the moment. I did try it again on some 2 views valorant stream but my view wasn't counted even without adblock

>>15747330
that ratio is still really high. I think his CCV should be around 3.2-3.6k range

>>15747330
anything over 30% on a poll is extremely suspicious.

>>15747330
Anon that's pretty much a 50% poll participation which is still pretty crazy

>>15747427
you can add based on user-supplied URL on the multi-viewer

>>15747443
what about this retard?
she just finished her collab with the twitch niggers and lost 15k when she swapped to valorant
https://streamable.com/5q7o50

>6500 people watching
>so that means 33 thousand loaves of bread
SANA KNOWS THE REAL NUMBERS

>>15747672
damn, I kinda forgot how slow others streamers chats are, I literally can read everything on the left but nothing on the right

>>15744930
I'm starting to think Cover should just move to fucking Twitch already

>>15747333
>Have uBlock always enabled, never turn it off, even for my oshi

>>15747672
youtube has the capability to whitelist channels and is blatantly cheating for their hires lol

>>15747769
Honestly, from an advertiser/sponsorship perspective, Hololive must be a fucking goldmine
>Captive audience
>Able to target based on preferences of streamers+viewers
>High engagement rate vs normal viewership

>>15747819
and some holos actually did move to twitch but only temporaly because youtube couldnt stop shitting the bed, Miko for example

>>15747819
And let go of their monopoly? NIJINIGGER CONFIRMED

Matome mentions that NijiNoon did a poll, but I can't track down any screenshots. Apparently 10k responses in a 14k viewer stream, no duration mentioned. Call it hearsay though since it's filtered through jp posts and google translate.

>>15747859
ah, I remember that
>YT shitting the bed
>Miko starts a stream on YT, barely announces it
>more than the usual the CCV
and you have to count that there's a ton of people that tune in streams because they have notifications

>>15747869
NTA but I remember Ame saying her manager agreed that she can stream on twitch, she just doesn't know how to stream and what to stream in there

>>15747925
yeah, didnt she appeared at the front of twitch's page with 15K playing minecraft?

>>15747852
most of the games i've bought recently have been because of holos. Mostly it's the "they have to be dumb, there's no way it's actually that hard" feeling

So, bros, are /we/ gonna compile our hard obtained evidence, form a union, post it on Twitter and get thay sweet PR response?

>>15747925
Selen as well since she pretty much got her regular numbers playing apex on twitch even though it was guerilla stream

>>15747925
>on Twitch*
>>15747962
yes, I might have a screenshot buried too
Pego too was the number 1 streamer on twitch when she first streamed there and had that train thing they do with subscriptions

Lui newest song cover actually outperform IRyS song..

>>15747944
>Ame
>doesn't know how to stream on twitch
rumao

>>15748036
Well, at least is something that rui-nee isnt getting mogged...

>>15747297
Who would have thought that all it took to kill our schizos is Veibae inclining. Someone seriously had a meltdown in the last thread.

>>15747987
Gura made me buy rise and dmc V lol so you do have a point

This is just phase one, anons.
With numbers literally halved JPs will also come the perception that the fad is over, and many will stop watching in response. The recline is coming.

>>15747819
Naw, Hololive still dominates overwhelming in subs and VODs so there's no reason to leave their monopoly.
Ccv is just a meme metric for dick measuring and shit posting.

Even within Twitch, veibae has been kicking Nyanner's ass in CCV for a while now, but I don't think she thinks she's bigger since Nyanners still has more twitch followers and YouTube subs than her.

>>15748036
FLOPrys is the Sana of music

First niji i see taking so long to surprass the waiting room
it is also my favorite pair of tits
https://vrabi.ml/video/TpStcM9GB5Q

>>15748083
>ENschizo, gen 5 Schizo and CouncilSchizo in reality hate vei more than the one thing they got known for in the numbers thread
>there's no veischizo
what the fuck?

>>15747987
Omori and Mori. Guilty.

Maybe somebody could start a stream on a throwaway and posted the link here, so that a couple of anons could go there and test how this shit actually works?

>>15748109
Finally I can groom kuzuha

>>15748133
CCV is great for PR. People love talking about big numbers. It's also one of the tools for measuring how audience responds to a content.

>>15748226
that's how StreamHatchet calculates their rankings isn't it?

I can't wait for this month top 50 CCV median, it's going to be a bloodbath

>>15748171
are you rindou by any chance anon ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTs7tJITQxg

Is this the first non-Koromiko stream to reach 10k today on youtube

>>15748036
Isn't that normal?

>>15748246
Yes, and now the streamer rankings will forever be fucked for chubbas by the looks of it.
No more Pekora as top female YT streamer.

>>15748036
Omega revenge soon

>>15748246
StreamHatchet figured out they can't remove enough watch hours from anime girls so they asked Susan for help

All it took for Nijifag and Holofag unity is for a new cull to bring them below Vshojo.

Youtube is the biggest unityfag I have ever seen.

>>15748036
IRyS is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to EN music production

>>15748150
Debiru also taking longer to reach the waiting room
seems that is starting to become more common

>>15748140
She's EN Watame

>Youtube desperately trying to prove that 3d women are better than 2d women.
It's over 2d bros.

>>15748386
forgot pic

>>15748386
Nijis will get the same cull as holos and every single one of them, except Kuzuha and Toya, will become a sub 10k streamer.

>>15748366
>Be Cover
>Have literal music powerhouse (Mori) and extremely popular singer who's Karaokes might as well be concerts (Gura)
>Hmm should we invest money into helping them release music
>NO I KNOW ACTIVATE [LA GOBLINA GENERICA], PUT YOUR MONEY THERE
These fucking niggers are incompetent

>>15748484
oof, now add the Apex-dead on top

It looks like we're gonna need to rely on Niji's infamously rabid fanbase to notice the cull.

>>15748386
>>15748466
Tonight we have towa concert
Peko metronome tournament
And Maimoto Mahjong raffle

is gonna be interesting if this pater satrt reapating more often.

>>15748548
Did you have a stroke, anon?

>>15748004
We're only gonna get an automated response. Also, I doubt fucking Youtube would care about a union as small as us especially if we don't have minorities and POCs on board.

>>15748004
send it to Cover and hope they do something with it. Maybe their lawyers can find something to get youtube off their ass.

>>15748439
>2D women still win the fight, making youtube seethe more
man, 2D was the superior choice all this time, investorCHADS cant stop winning

>>15748527
They don't have any stuff, nor any connections in the US to do anything with Gura. And they can't do anything with Mori or with Irys, because of their lack of 3d. Also, the upside of Mori paying for her own music is that she owns her own music.

>>15748150

>Almost 30min and still sub2k
>She usually gets at least 4k for zatsu/drinking

NUI NOOOOOOO

>>15748527
>>Hmm should we invest money into helping them release music
100% that mori would reject their investment because that means she loses all the creative control and she never wants to let that thing out of her hands, this is the main reason why if she was offered the place of Vsinger she would reject it

>>15748527
She's not even a bad hire from a music perspective, they just have her sing generic, overproduced, vocaloid-adjacent garbage.
https://youtu.be/TxBLSlFKb10?t=50

Put her in Council instead of literally any of the others and put the entire vsinger budget into better support for EN's own music projects.

>>15748689
>They don't have any stuff, nor any connections in the US to do anything with Gura
And why would they need anything like that? Gura released a massively popular song (Reflect) all on her own, from the USA, with a SEAnigger doing the mixing and a jap doing the lyrics. You're telling me Cover can't match Gawr "Shorkbrain" Gura handling a project on her own?

>>15748366
>>15748527
The problem with IRyS is that she is stuck with management that doesn't even understand the market that watches their chuubas outside of Japan. No amount of music can fix that.

They should just let her release Covers instead of making her "Generic Hololive Spokesperson in English" like how Sora is... except even Sora is allowed to make song covers and IRyS seem not even allowed to touch them with a 10-foot pole.

I seems I'm also counted as a bot, welp. I guess the temporary solution for now is watching in a new account or not logging in at all.

>>15748653
Cover already knows. If there's something they can do, they will do it. Nijisisters should send some data to Ichikara, though. They have more money then Cover, and more interest in maintaining CCV, since they are reclining. Maybe they will be able to do something.

>>15745822
cope

>>15748466
>collab with toya
>cant reach waiting room of 13k after 15min
OK lets say hypethetically it happens during maimoto rafle.
How will niji jops react?

>>15748707
I actually feel bad for IRys if she really has no control over her music production, which makes sense considering the lyrics of her English songs are some machine translation tier nonsense.

>>15748768
This.
How has it been 6 months and Irys only has 4 covers and they are hololive originals?
Let her do a FoTM cover like Animal or Cinderella ffs.
Polka is far from a vsinger and her karaokes are actually on the low end for Holos, but she outputs covers like crazy.

Ofc there's also the possibility that it's Irys's choice to not do covers, which would surprise me since her PL was a cover artist.

>>15748803
someone put the data we collected in the nijiEN thread

>>15748867
Phony was extremely popular, even Anya got pretty good numbers there

>Mikkorone gains 20k views in 4 minutes
>ccv only gains 200
nice website susan

Do you guys think Kamippoi na has a bit of FOTM juice left in the tank?

I can't take looking at these numbers anymore. I'm having a mental breakdown.

FIX YOUR SHIT YOUTUBE!!!!

>>15748803
>Nijisisters should send some data to Ichikara, though. They have more money then Cover
kek implying a trillion-worth company cares about them.

>>15748947
It is fixed. This is how they want it.

Why are clipniggers so incompetent?
Look at this stupid video about "top HoloEN 2021 clips" massively underselling actually popular clips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qtliOW_np8&t=46s

The most viewed EN clip according to them is a 600k Gura one.

Even if we cut cheating shit like Gura singing (which has like 5+ 1 million clips), this channel alone BTFOs that for 2021

>>15748860
Does Irys even have the ability to write lyrics and sources for the production if cover will let her take control of her music?

>>15748803
best not to assume and just send it to both. At worst it just means they get information they already knew.

>>15748963
True, there is nothing wrong on Youtube's end, we just need to live with it

>>15744788
congrats you baited me from the OP pic
I'm checking out the artist now

Is a clip immediately getting more views than the actual stream a good thing or a bad thing?

>>15749007
This shit happens all the time

>>15748973
Only explanation is that the retard is shilling his channel and his own friends. Hell just going to youtube, searching Gawr Gura, and sorting by views brings up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFTf7MN9WUk&t=83s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZrYecj7LEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-sfdsslipI
etc

>>15749007
It's an extremely normal thing. Hololive should be doing more of stuff like this though.

>>15749057
>Mori mogged Mori

https://twitter.com/YouTubeGaming/following
if they arent here means youtube dont give a shit bout some midget streamers

>>15749055
Jesus christ the thumbnail for the third one.

>>15749057
They SOMETIMES upload official clip
Like once a year, or less

>>15748977
She'd pay Mori or Lumina or someone else she knows for lyrics.

>>15749007
Happens all the time and is a very good thing. The more channels getting lots of views in clipping, the bigger tent YT thinks the community is and the bigger the algo effects are to everyone. Plus plenty of direct referral.
Kiara got two Korean clips with 144k and 118k views respectively and suddenly her poll says that 37% of 5784 voters are korean. That's 2140 extra viewers overnight.

>>15749007
Happens to almost every viral Niji clip you can think of.
There was a time when I wanted to compare the views of JP Holo clips vs Niji clips and there were many from Shiina and Saku that have double the views of the source VODs within days.

This also happens a lot to ID vtubers (low VOD counts so clips easily beat them) and some of the lower CCV ENs.

>>15748977
It doesn't necessarily have to be IRyS though. They could take up Mori on her offer, or actually hire someone that can write in English - KIRA already wrote Sparks for Kiara, so it's not like they have zero connections there.

I mean, Ado is an utaite where all her originals are written by a different Vocaloid-adjacent writer each time. It's neat if you get a Mori/Suisei who can actually write their own music, but it's far from necessary, and the quote-unquote competition is making no attempt to do everything in-house.

Mikkorone just peaked again.
I reckon it's more JPs tuning in because honestly, I'm pretty filtered as an EOP without a translator in chat for these portions.

Today is also Monday in Japan and I don't think it's a holiday, so that could explain the lower CCV regardless of cull.

POLL ON MIKORONE

miko poll now

oh, poll in mikorone stream

>>15749182
And Kiara's pandering to Korean is working extremelly well for her so far, she will have to see if they stick with her, but it looks pretty good

>1min
>21k
SUSSAAAAAAAAAAANNNN

ohnononononono

1 minute, 22k poll/25k ccv

>>15749195
i kind of remember in the early 2021 before reflect, there were a bunch of music producers begging to write a track for gura
they have access to good jp producers too. what they don't have is a competent music director. anything a-chan touches is idolshit music. the frog... he had some good ideas but ultimately it was wataru sena that made the good stuff for AZKi.

>>15749360
Holy shit

2 minutes, 100% engagement

>2min
>100%+ participation
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>15749372
Well, 35p will be on the case now, lol

2 minutes, passed ccv... fuck you youtube

>100% in 2mins

>>15749372
>>15749409

YOUTUBE GUARANTEES OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT INTERACTION IN 2 MINUTES
ISN'T THAT GREAT?
JOIN OUR PLATFORM NOW

Take the screenshots, anon. Not just the poll.

Welp...

>months of schizos coming up with insane explanations like EOPs leaving likes/votes and immediately leaving
>Finally everyone believes in the polls
I knew I wasn't crazy

POLL

>>15749470
>>15749431
>>15749409
>>15749372
Nice site susan

pretty good viewer engagement, guys

Submitted without comment

>30k 5min in
>ccv has moved 100 since it opened

>>15749372
>>15749409
>>15749431
>>15749470
I'm watching right now and I'm not even voting because I only realized there is a poll because I'm using Mongolian horse riding simulation forum....

EXACTLY 30k
you can't be shitting me right now

these absurd vote number reminds me of those rigged African warlord's version of democracy

>>15748803
Even if cover and anycolor were to combine their resources, the sheer wealth disparity would still be like a ant trying to fight a tank. The "fight" would probably end with both companies ending up bankrupted.

>>15749526
One is 6 hours longer, not a great comparison.
I'm sure there's another 11 hour stream out there with 30-40k CCV to use a benchmark.

>>15749360
Well, I doubt they're going to stick with her for long, at best she will keep two or three new gachis

There's no fucking way that 35p and Koronesuki will let this slide, right? Surely they raise a stink

30k before the poll ended

also I didn't vote on it cause im not logged in.

>25k watching
>30k poll
Small tech company, please understand.

>>15749544
Watching too but I’m not logged into my account so not voting

>>15749597
so this has been a 100k+ stream all along?

>>15749594
tough luck getting anything done bro, unless everyone flies to san bruno and start assemnbling in front of youtube hq with torches and pitchforks nothing's going to get done

If Holo could get whitelisted, would EN get their 2020's CCV?

>>15749557
Cover and Anycolor are tiny compared to Youtube on a global scale but they make up a significant portion of Youtube Japans views and revenue by now. When you get as big as Youtube it becomes important to focus on individual markets and they won't want to lose such big players in the Japanese market.

>>15749635
more like a 35-40k

So we're agreed that CCV is a completely worthless metric now, right? May as well post tyea leaf readings.

>>15749654
That's 90% poll participation which is still way too high. 50% is somewhat reasonable but still very high, so around 60k is the bare minimum

>>15749644
it's not the holos. viewers are the ones that got flagged because they act like bots. youtube will never reverse those flags because it will fuck with their anti-botting/spam.

>>15749591
Her gook fandom isn't even a new thing, it's been there for months

>>15749360
I don't follow EN much, do Kronii and Ina capitalize from this?
I only heard Baelz doing good with them, other than Kiara here.

i cant wait for the VOD views of this MiKorone stream to show up

>>15749644
At the end of the day, all the money hololive makes is inconsequential for Youtube. They won't care if they leave just like how Twitch didn't care that Ludwig left

>>15749647
> they won't want to lose such big players in the Japanese market.
Pfhahaha. Anon go to the live section of youtube. Tell me: can you find these big Japanese market streamers displayed there, despite their site dominance?
>b-but I'm not japanese so they won't show up
So why do you get spics?

>>15749696
im giving benefit of doubt on holo fanbase being really active and not attaching it to twitch standards

Did you vote in the Mikorone poll, anon?
http://poal.me/rjctb5

>>15749696
Try 120% poll participation within 5 minutes

>>15749676
>now

>>15749732
kronii and ina just gave them crumps here and there, bae on the other hand dedicated an entire stream trying to learn korean in which she was taking notes, this is why she currently has them by the balls and her SC gain shows that

>>15749647
kek

Since when do JOPs enter the stream, vote on polls, leave a like, then close the stream? I thought only EOPs did that?

cam on irys... 3k....
jesus christ the lack of streams in december fucking killed her, with new toys and other streams distracting her shaky fanbase while she had to recover. not to mention her really bad new song thats ESL nonsense. I think irys is now a flop and she can't recover, which is pretty sad since she has been on a good momentum during september to november

>>15749360
What site is this?

>>15749799
Gookmoot, I kneel

>>15749807
Anon if you are going to doompost about irys, do it at least when she fails in a karaoke, since those are her strong point

>>15749807
Anon did YOU take a december break or something?
3k is upper mid tier now :*)

>>15749736
There isn't a single spic on my youtube live feed. Lots of Korean shit, 2 view indies and of course Hololive and Niji but no spics. I'm isolated from that Youtube bubble, I've never clicked on a single spic video.

>>15749817
It's just holo.poi, but most people never bother to scroll past the CCV graph

>>15749799
>Hiroyuki has more pull that Hololive combined
I kneel

>>15749736
Because most JOP streamers are still stuck on NND.
Literally vtubing is what dominates jp streaming scene.

>>15749807
You guys are going to need to adjust your expectations. 3k is an average number, 6-9k is good, anything over 10k is exceptional.

>>15749817
Holopoi, the SC section got added recently

>>15749647
I agree with you but at the same time a counterpoint, where would they go? Lets say YouTube tells them to go pound sand, and then they leave, and go where? Nico nico? that would literally kill them outside of japan, Dailymotion? That would kill them everywhere lol. Twitch? It would be the mother of all uphill battles and also be a serious blow to their income.

>>15749797
Anon, we all know that's what JOPs do since forever. They're the most engaged, loyal and active participants of streams.

>>15749837
Not for EN, no, if 3K is upper mid tier, than Sana is upper mid tier and Kiara is actually an high tier holo. But EN is way less affected by the 2021 cull

>>15749799
>Junya's trash content at #1
Oh god youtube deserves to rot in hell

>>15749860
I can't believe we're back in 2019...

Very smart, YT, trending on randos so any possible tweet complaining gets drown

>>15749372
>Nearly 100% engagement in a minute
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

I feel hopeless. Make it go back to normal. I'm guessing with the hashtag being tweeted out nearly 300k times, the korone portion of the event already being near 2M views, and now this poll that the actual viewership has to be AT LEAST 60k, possibly more.

>>15749941
it was bettee back then...

>>15749797
They still don't put as much likes and VOD comments as much as EOPs, but live voting has been a thing since NND days

>>15749732
Kronii get a fair amount of KR SC, but not to the point where it overtakes the dollars SC

>>15749418
Fuck off youtube, leave it to me!!!

>>15745772
top 10 Hololive fastest to 1m songs

1) REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 10 hours (29m)
2) KING (Gura and Mori) - 11 hours (36m)
3) UNISON (Houshou Marine) - 39 hours
4) (New) Ochame Kinou EN ver (HoloEN) - 44 hours
5) Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 45 hours
6) Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)
7) God-ish (Laplus Darkness) (2d 7h 18m)
8) Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
9) Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2 Days (17h 0m)
10) Myth or Treat (HoloMyth) (2d 20h 45m)
-
11) Can You Do the Hololive? (All members) - 3 Days

>>15749676
Views and subs are still the main focus of youtube. Please understand.

>>15749941
Kizuna needs to be relevant again for that to happen.

>>15749984
Nijibros..

What if this is the masterplan of the bitter chinks to finally kill off Hololive for good?

We've been blaming pajeets all this time when it's clearly the bugmen's fault. It's so obvious, their bots aren't caught by the new algorithm they deployed.

>FB about to pass YT in hours watched per year (pretty soon)
>Susan decides to fuck up their streamers even more
but why?

>>15749941
>The entire Vtubing industry is one big timeloop.
Zamn

>>15749984
Kizunabros...

Well animal crossing sucks as a stream game imo, but no way should Irys be doing worse on it than her Another Eden shill stream 2 weeks ago. (3.4k peak)

https://vrabi.ml/video/vISRubUW7xY

>>15750263
I thought Facebook was fucking dead what the fuck who still uses this shit besides pinoys?

>>15750166
So do we have any kind 2 views who lurk here who would be willing to show their dashboard stats so we can see whether Youtube reports the real numbers to the channel owner?

>>15750263
>Huge growth potential!!!
>-29%, -5%, -13%
what did they mean by that?

>>15749910
>But EN is way less affected by the 2021 cull
But they were more affected by the 2020 one. The playing field is even, anon. Time to start accepting it wasn't cope all along, EN was competing and outdoing most of JP.

>>15750225
Upping this group. the numbers are daily subs/followers

>>15750307
you just woke up today and learnt of the cull?

>>15750346
There you are.
Cope, both got culled during the Dec 2020 change

>>15750340
Read anon, read
>Youtube is primed to trend upward with the addition of DrLupo and TimTheTatman streaming exclusively on the platform!
I can fucking guarantee more people have heard of Gura, Miko, Korone than these literal who's, Ludwig and Valkyrae included.

>>15750326
>75% of viewers come from watching mobile games
Yeah SEA and spics

>>15750340
is only counting youtubegaming but not all the streams becasue is probbaly fucking impossible to see who is streaming outside youtubegaming.

>>15750326
Don't they have like 2 billion active users daily?
I know their monthly userbase is almost at 3 billion.

>>15750326
You underestimate how many normie braindead flips there are, they would unironicaly watch a stream of paint drying if their favorite celebrity, e-celeb wannabe is the one streaming
t.flip

>>15750263
>Youtube Live Gaming is primed to trend upward with the additions of DrLupo and TimTheTatman
lmao

>>15750398
I like beating a dead horse.

>>15750420
>Cope, both got culled during the Dec 2020 change
True, EN just got culled way more.
And both got culled 2021, JP got culled more. Bringing us to..an even playing field.

>>15750456
dr lupo is LITERALLY A SUB10K streamer
tim actually holds 20k constantly.

>>15750326
They still have 30 million daily users in the US. Don't underestimate the number of addicted normies.

>>15750456
to the moooooooooon!

>>15750473
37% to 26% is not "way more".
Also the current cull is definitely culling more than 11%.

>>15750491
Holos are unironically their biggest consistent game streamers but they're still kneecapping them lmao

>>15750544
They seethe at cute anime girls.

>>15750525 (me)
Fuck me -numbers % doesn't work that way but you get the point

>>15750525
>n-no actually it's the JPs who got culled more
The state of this thread lmao.

>>15750544
Consider >>15750326 and realize Youtube wants the normie audience. Anime girls are normie poison, it's no wonder they're trying to sweep Hololive and Niji under the rug so they can get the normal twitch crowd as the face of their streaming platform

>>15750613
EN 37% JP 26% that's not a terribly big difference, can't you read?
New cull is definitely culling JP more though.

>>15750613
The 2020 cull hurt Mori's numbers around 10%. The current one has JPs at a third of their actual audience. There's really no question this one has hit much harder unless you're just here to troll

>>15749830
>>15749853
That's actually not his channel but the clipper's chanel.

>>15750518
>50k average per video
>this guy is going to incline youtube gaming

>>15750683
Gura was hit for half of her audience.

>>15750683
>The 2020 cull hurt Mori's numbers around 10%
>Mori's numbers went from 17k to 10k
What?

>>15749799
I wonder what Hololive and Nijisanji's numbers are

>>15750718
Gura isn't synonymous with EN

>>15750681
>>15750683
You're all number newfags. We fucking saw in 2020 how Myth lost almost 50% of their audience over night ,the fact that you niggers till try to convince us otherwise when Susan pulled the same shit on JP in the exact same time period of 2020, providing a repeat of the same pattern, is insane.

So let's get this straight: are you actually arguing right now that JPs are culled harder than ENs?

the spicschizo woke up, dont bother replying to him

>>15750802
Both Gura and Ame lost a fuckton. Gura went from 45k to 25k, Ame went from 20k to 10k. They might not be all of Myth but you can see massive damage there, it wasn't anywhere similar to what most of JPs got.
Ironically, it was Pekora who got culled to nigh Gura levels, since she was getting multiple 60k+ streams in that period then got cut to 30k.

>>15749584
Pekor's jumpking seem good enough

>>15750825
I think the 10% was referring to 2021, but they were too retarded to type correctly.

>>15750825
It was 36% and JP was culled by 27%. In reality the best explanation is that they both got culled the same amount but the extra drop in EN was because they were reclining while JP managed to offset the cull by inclining. Regardless of whether you accept that or not the gap was only 11% while the drop in JP numbers at the moment is looking like it's almost 70% from their 2021 levels.

This MiKorone stream is weird. The viewership has been frozen at 25k for like an hour, not going up or down. Really strange.

>>15750890
Regardless of whether you accept it or not, it was half. Overnight. I watched it happen.
And the current drop in JP is explained by them reclining :*)

>>15750868
Peko wasn't even hit as hard as gura se went from 46k to 35k, mori went from 17k to 10k, Ina went from 20k to 12k, and kiara went from 13k to 9k

>>15750917
Nothing strange about that, JP viewers are extremely loyal so no one is leaving the stream or joining since they were all there from the start.

>>15750917
Everything changed after pakor..

>>15750917
youtube limiter in action again

Stop instantly outing yourself as the schizo by typing 50%. Can you not understand numbers that aren't rounded or something

>>15750326
You massively underestimate us flips and our SEA and spic brothers. There's a reason spic twitch streamers are right below xqc in terms of views

>>15750937
>Regardless of whether you accept it or not, it was half
We have the actual numbers, so unless you show that HoloEN as a group was culled by 50% in total then you're simply remembering wrong. Feel free to show your working though. 36% is the actual overall drop in EN until you can prove otherwise.

>>15750986
but that's the easiest way to identify him

>>15750943
This, by comparison no JPs were hit even remotely as hard, EN was fucking butchered

>>15750890
Not to start a shitflinging fest but were adblocker users counted pre cull? That might explain why EN got hit harder since it is statistically verifiable that the west are more likely to use adblock

>Spic schizo got home after Mom took him to church
Did you have a good time spicschizo?

Did a few tests, so watch dex views are counted as long as your account wasn't flagged, or not logging in. Also how long it takes to update the ccv is extremely inconsistent, sometime it's nearly a minute, sometime only a few seconds.

>>15751016
Gura, Mori and Ame all got hit by 50%. Ina and Kiara didn't, skewering the stats badly. Is it better for you if I say Gura,Mori and Ame(who were the number powerhouses to begin for EN)?

Holos and Nijis
>produce original music and cover songs
>extreme variety in content, there is something for everybody
>enough people to stream 24/7 guaranteeing people in the platform at all times
>In house collaborations and big collaborative tournaments
>participant fan culture to create content outside the streams like incredible amounts of art
>huge incentives to pay for content via memberships and superchat (literally the top of the world at that metric)
>extreme reach on different cultures and languages with fan translated content for almost any language (English, Spanish, Korean, Chinese, Russian, German, etc)
>frequent, controlled and reinvigorating events to re-incentivize fans to watch them again after a burnour or simply to give back to the viewer like costumes, 3D and even concerts

Susan handpicked youtubers
>Warzone, CoD and Valorant streamers
>biggest streams are collaborations with people from the competitor platform, twitch
>vomiting react content
>extremely limited personalities that cap their ability to produce original content

I literally fail to see anything that holos/nijis do and that those niggers could do better

>>15749619
Anon, click that Sparks of Joy video. IRyS needs you.

>>15751038
Actually even then no, you have some outliers like shion miko and ayame who were 22k+ that became 14k~ or Mio used to have 12k but then suddenly became a 5k streamer, but still om average, the ENs were hit more

>>15750890
>he thinks a double digit percentile differential isn't huge when talking about numbers in the tens of thousands

>>15751073
Yes, anon. That's when people started checking to see what was going on and YouTube eventually gave us the canned response about behavior and adblock usage.

>>15750616
Anon have you been living under a rock or what? anime has been constantly going mainstream to the normie audience since SAO. Just look how many normies like shounens like Jojo, MHA, One Piece and Attack on Titan.

>>15751128
Show the numbers and the math please. Gura going from 46k to 26k is not 50% to start with and I think the rest of your claims are even worse bullshit.

>>15751181
he already watched it, otherwise it would appear as [New]

>>15751128
46k to 26k and 17k to 10k is not 50% no matter how you cut it. Learn numbers

>>15751183
Inconsistent drops means JP wasn't hit at all, some of them just reclined because they're not as entertaining.

>>15751200
>Attack on Titan

>>15751278

>>15751181
I listen to it regularly, actually. I think the way it sounds. When you fully watch a video, the red bar resets each statistical day and YouTube will recommend it again because it thinks you might listen to it again.

I listen to the YT music version too.

>>15751309

>>15751268
Same logic can be applied to EN, infamously Ame who was burning out at the time. Ame could be an outlier that may have declined during the change, and while assuming that the rest didn't it's still inconsistent

>>15750118
Did Suisei's Phony really take longer than 3 days to hit a million? I though that shot up quick.

>>15751247
>46k to 26k is not 50%
The absolute state of the numbers thread.

>>15751178
Both are worthless when one reggaeton music video can get more views and generate more ad money that everyone combined

>>15751345
Cope, all of EN dropped while not all of JP did, that's proof enough

>>15751371
>He thinks 26k is half of 46k
What the fuck. Is Mexican education actually this bad?

>>15751392
*than

>>15751371
>piensa que 26K es la mitad de 46K
PENDEJO

Okay, I'll accept that EN seemed to have been hit harder due to them reclining if you guys accept that the same thing happening to JP right now means they're also reclining.

>>15751488
PENDEJX*
/ftfy

>>15751506
You know Gura hates spics right

>>15751412
26/46 x 100 = 56%
It's more than 50%

>>15751531
Implying I'm a spic when I'm a SEAnigger.

>>15751347
I just copied this from the archive, I didn't double check it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EIYLRf_yU
According to this it "only" got 1.6 million views in 10 days so I'm inclined to believe the list

>>15751531
Are you sure she hates spics and isn't just a containtment breaker?

>>15751531
Gura loves Ame

>>15751412
>Before we get started in the fraction to percentage conversion, let's go over some very quick fraction basics. Remember that a numerator is the number above the fraction line, and the denominator is the number below the fraction line. We'll use this later in the tutorial.

>When we are using percentages, what we are really saying is that the percentage is a fraction of 100. "Percent" means per hundred, and so 50% is the same as saying 50/100 or 5/10 in fraction form.

>So, since our denominator in 26/46 is 46, we could adjust the fraction to make the denominator 100. To do that, we divide 100 by the denominator:

100 ÷ 46 = 2.1739130434783

>Once we have that, we can multiple both the numerator and denominator by this multiple:

26 x 2.1739130434783
46 x 2.1739130434783
=
56.521739130435
100
>Now we can see that our fraction is 56.521739130435/100, which means that 26/46 as a percentage is 56.5217%.

>>15751401
>not all of JP did
Only Mel inclined you retard and it was skewed by the streams she did. We went through this like 4 threads ago

>>15751412
It's...more. Are you fucking retarded?

>>15751540
>/#/ can't into numbers
Anon that means that she was left with more than half
>>15751531
Isn't one of the arguments why EN got culled more is because they were just reclining? Why is it suddenly not applicable when the JPs get culled more

The absolute state of this thread, all you fags needed to do was not giving the spicschizo attention

oh no no no

>numbers thread can't fucking number

>>15751178
they pay those handpicked tens of millions of dollars, whoever's idea that was needs to see a return or they wont get that bonus to buy their ticket to space

>>15751506
The truth is it seems to be even now. I don't get why /jp/ is seething since even with these equalized numbers, Myth (let alone Council) don't exactly dominate. They're just no low mid tier any more, which was always bullshit if you looked at VODs and subs.

>>15751665
?? didnt bae had a 4k-5k stream there

>>15751642
It is more! That means that the drop can't have been 50% because a drop of 50% means the cull cut the original number by half, you absolute fucking braindead slob. What are you even doing here if you need to copy and paste percentages from a fucking elementary school website

/#/ quick! solve this one!
1 + 1 = ???

How to save IRyS? Sana beat her today

>>15751812
11

>>15751794
Animal Crossing sucks as a stream game now.
Numbers for it for JPs are low now too.
Funny cuz Irys is playing MK rn which would usually be at least 4k.

>>15751812
11

>>15751665
This guy isn't even fucking streaming.
WHY
I said WHY
Are Nijiniggers like this?

>>15751812
Accounting for youtube CCV error, 5
Accoding to Youtube, 0

>>15751540
>>15751593
>>15751642
>Spicschizo samefagged 3 times and made the same embarassing mistake
Oof. Not only is he a 3rd worlder he's 15 years old and doesn't know how to do basic math

>>15751818
Dead.
Project Hope officially Project Hopeless.