/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

Anyone that uses THIS numbers thread is gay, yes me included.
Don't be like me

Threadly reminder that the reason Susan is culling CCVs is so that they don't have to pay streamers a lot of ad revenue from ads run by YouTube themselves. Not only that, but low CCVs prevents your chuubas from gaining sponsorships directly from other companies.

https://vrabi.ml/video/SNpDYLd2UJc

>Not even 10k for a new outfit reveal
Holy fuck Nijifriends, that's one hell of a recline. Which is the only explanation possible since there's no cull, right?

Can anybody confirm if Pekkers is actually gonna make an appearance for 24Hr Mikkorone? I got baited by the picture and I've been watching for God knows how long.

>>15704331
She's coming up next for the ad-lib segment.

ITS OVER. Youtube gaming wants its stars to be ludwig and the doc! not anime girls!

>>15704331
She'll be in this segment but it may be prerecorded.

Is there gonna be anything else that will compete with Sankisei or will this segment be the peak for Korone's stream?

>in this race everybody gets stabbed, but some may get hit on the lungs and have difficulty to walk, while others just hit on the side where there are no organs and just some pain. But it is fair because everybody gets stabbed.
this is CCVs comparisons now

>>15704385
Ludwig's CCV got fucked too though

>>15704184
But the ads play REGARDLESS on if they show up on CCV or on the vods you dumbass.
Also, any company worth their salt isn't looking solely at CCV on YT, especially when evidence that that number is cooked AF can be given by Cover and Anycolor.

>>15704555
I hate how accurate this sounds.

Susan you fucking bitch! Fix your shitty website!

>>15704555

>>15704555

>>15704405
watame dropped out because she was busy with something so probably not
I think only 3d parts are pre-recorded

>>15704600
It's not even about ads, some nips tested with YouTube premium and they still don't get counted even while actively watching

sankisei+miko+korone and not even 50k
this is actual bullshit

I truly believe that Suisei is the most obvious example of one vtuber being fucked over more than most.

2021

Pekora
>Q1 8,180,226
>Q2 8,727,183
>Q3 5,617,963 (excluding holo_data)
>Q4 7,849,267

>2021: 30,374,638 (33,218,959 with holo_data

Kuzuha
>Q1 9,065,567
>Q2 6,949,857
>Q3 6,740,783 (excluding holo_data)
>Q4 6,171,577

>2021: 28,927,784 (31,769,604 with holo_data)

note: holo_data https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1443848162150658065

>>15704383
>>15704405
Thank you bros now I can rest in peace.

is niji poker still climbing? I saw someone said they are back at 42k again in the last thread

>>15704651
Bullshit

>>15704695
It ended.

>>15704695
It's done Anon.
42.8k peak.

>>15704651
Her saying she didn't like/didn't want gachikoi certainly didn't help

>>15704719
It slipped? AHAHAHAHAHA

>>15704730
you fucking idiot, that was known all along.

>>15704645
Overlapping

>>15704664
Degozaru!!

>>15704739
Not for everyone considering how some reacted after her recent comment

How much are they losing from the cull? Like what’s the average?

Do not look at Iroha's numbers right now

>>15704772
you haven't watch her at all then you donut.

>>15704600
It's not about how the ads play you moron, it's about how much Hololive and the chuubas get from ad revenues played by Youtube.

Also, you're forgetting that most companies have old ass boomer decision makers that don't know what the hell they're looking at but they're happy if they see big numbers on screen watching their ads/sponsorships.

>>15704385
TimTheTatMan has always had higher CCV than them on youtube since he moved.

So I just woke up, checked Vrabi, and browsed this thread fully expecting "It slipped" kind of posts. As expected, you guys didn't disappoint.
>>15703384
I actually had doubts. If it was normal, I wouldn't (or at least I'd have a lot more faith towards them). However, going by recent records, it seems that
- Niji's events seem to be less affected than Holo's events for some reasons, probably some sorts of audience behaviors, but that's just my wild guess
- Holo has been getting hit by the cull hard. Their numbers went down significantly across the board. Who knows, maybe this stream was hit too (and it probably was)
- This overlapped with several streams
so I think it's reasonable for people (outside of shitposting / shitting on either Holo or Niji) to have doubts. I meant, at the moment the difference between Mikorone's peak and Niji's poker's peak is just roughly 4k (~10%), it's not as small as 39, but close enough that it could have swung both way if one side has gotten a bit more viewers.

>>15704775
30% JOP

>>15704664

>>15704775
Some people specualting that they are losing almost the amount they have for the waiting room

>>15704782
Everybody is watching MiKorone

>>15704775
range of 5k (min) to 30k (max)

>>15704783
Wasn't talking about just me but you do you buddy. Gachikoi getting kicked the fuck out is a good thing imo.

>>15704775
just double what you're seeing

>>15704775
no one knows since the cull is inconsistent with every stream. some people get affected by it while others don't get hit at all

>>15704798
>Who knows, maybe this stream was hit too (and it probably was)
LOL not calling you out, but do you really think a stream of this focus wouldn't be a easy 50k within the first hour?
This is a much bigger deal than Sister Marine and Subaru Police.

>>15704775
We don't have the numbers from this cull yet since its too early but from these are from last year if my memory serves me right:
HOLOEN - 37%
HOLOJP - 26%
NIJI - 16%

>>15704838

>>15704838
this. coco got 1m ccv

>>15704782
yikes...new year outfit debuff

>>15704839
This is nonsense, every stream is getting culled. Just some of them are having new year buffs offsetting the cult

>>15704783
NTA but donut is the most hilarious insult I've ever heard on this board.

>>15704877
are nijien male gen's numbers pretty "normal" during prime SEA hour?

Does holostars effected as well? Roberu botw got 900 views right now....

Giken is pretty trash, but KNEEL TO FBKING.
https://twitter.com/GikenTV/status/1477602303582806020/photo/1

Miko is such a work horse in Hololive. Streams high hours and is always involved in organizing events like this. This stream is like a breath of fresh air after the Pokemon stream and seeing a big number is making me feel good again after all the culling. God bless Miko.

i wish we could get someone to start a stream without a waiting room so we could test that theory

>>15704920
Susan didn't cut him in half!!!!! Sugoi son!

>>15704794
Ad revenue depends heavily on
>Where the ad plays are coming from
>What kind of ads are getting served up
CCV doesn't factor into either of those you half-wit.
I do agree on the second point though, that more incompetent dumbasses will only look at CCV, but YT is a different beast than Twitch, where you can definitely bring up the different metrics to negotiate. Having 100k people view the ad even if the CCV is only 12k for example, is a very big draw and you can negotiate accordingly. If Cover isn't negotiating with the fact that YT culls CCV as a card on the table, then they're far, far, FAR more incompetent than anyone here believes.

SUSAN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING WITH THE NUMBERS?????

HOLOLIVE CHUUBAS ARE GETTING MOGGED BY VSHOJO STREAMS AAAAAAA

>>15704943
This is what EN needs more of.

SUSAN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING WITH THE NUMBERS?????

NIJISANJI LIVERS ARE GETTING MOGGED BY VSHOJO STREAMS AAAAAAA

Y’know what guys. I hate numbers

Reminder that Niji got gold today. Poker tournament real number was 80k while Mikorone managed to escape the cull.

i'm just waiting until next month. shit's too fucked yo

Holy fuck, Korone and Miko went all out with this. Even involving EN and ID!! How the fuck are they going to do a 3D concert after being awake for nearly 24 hours. Is it going to be pre-recorded. Either way this is amazing.

19 JST - Introduction
20 JST - "That's so specific, how was I supposed to tell?" Impersonations! 3D Ft. Fubuki, Subaru, Noel.
21 JST - "No laughing allowed!" Hololive Ad Lib Theater Ft. Ookami Mio, Tokoyami Towa, Amane Kanata, Himemori Luna, and Hololive Fantasy
22 JST - "3D VR Horror - Emily Wants to Play"
23 JST - "Hololive Debate Match!" Ft. AkuShio and Momosuzu Nene
1 JST - "Hololive Sugoroku" Ft. Nekomata Okayu, Takane Lui, and Laplus Darkness
3 JST - "Hololive Drawing Song" featuring Sakamata Chloe, Kazama Iroha, Hakui Koyori, Omaru Polka, and Tsunomaki Watame
5 JST - "Mini Totsumachi"
7:30 JST - Show's second half resumes after a break
8 JST - MiKKro News
9 JST - "English & Japanese Telephone!" Ft. Amelia Watson, Gura, Kronii, and Kiara
11 JST - "Hololive 100 yen Shop" Ft. Subaru, Anya, Irys, Hakos, and Reine
12 JST - "Afternoon Drama: Sakura & Bread 2"
13 JST - The kanji goes off screen, but it looks to be some apologizing stream
14 JST - "Best out of 3! Mario Kart 8, Asobi Taizen, and SMB!"
16 JST - "Tourist Report"
17 JST - "No laughing allowed! Hololive Ad Lib Theater" Ft. NePoRaBo and HoloX
19 JST - "MiKorone 3D Concert"

>>15704651
Noel for me seems she got killed the most, in 2021 her utawakus (excluding relays) got a median peak CCV of 13k, with only 2 of 21 failing to reach 10k (one weird gimmick ASMR mic one and one at an unusual timeslot). Today she did one and got 5.2k

>>15705087
Many segments are pre-recorded yea.

It's makes you wonder how powerfull gura is. I mean pulling 35k relay all her own mogging everyone.

>>15705112
was gura actually a 40k streamer like chumfags cried all year, im not ready to accept that

>>15705112
>last person on relay
>all on her own

lmao chumkeks

>>15705107
Noel is def one of the most culled.
It was pure bullshit how it took 30 minutes for her to reach her waiting room and could barely get past 5k after 45 mins of stalling.
That doesn't normally happen until she reaches 10k.

>>15705112
Don't forget 100k+ (200k+ real number) costume reveal.

>>15705087
If not for susan this would have been a 80k constant CCV 24 hours kino

>>15704943
I'm hoping she doesn't overwork herself as much this year. December was her busiest month last year (more so off-stream then on-stream). She had less time to stream and when she did, she overslept twice.

>>15705127
At the very least, we know CCV's been fucked across the board for everyone (to varying degrees) since December 2nd, 2020.
It's just now even MORE fucked than before, and there's no reasonable way to determine how badly somoene's getting ramranch'd by Susan until after the fact by looking at the VODs.

>>15705107
She went into SC reading and I recall the viewers only dropped around ~1k by 10mins mark

>>15704981
The thing is, this has been going on since 2020. Cover is ridiculously incompetent since they still haven't been fixed it today. Either that or Youtube is planning to make Twitch streamers flip as their priority and are currently snobbing Clover. I'm more leaning on the latter due to Ludwig's switch.

>>15705112
Even tho she got culled, still manage to pull 40k+ unarchive karaoke .

>>15705155
Seriously, even though the number is big I'm sure there is culling going on. Nothing against Marine and Pekora but how can then just playing one block Minecraft get nearly double the viewership is this unconcentrated kino especially since its been hyped up for a while and the schedule looks amazing. Its not like Miko and Korone are unpopular Holos either, they are both near the top. It really doesn't make sense.

>>15705087
this is box pushing to the extreme. susan will make them pay

https://youtu.be/8AoVFJ-URMs
And now youtube is starting to put Rusian clips in my recs

>>15705083
Reminder that Mikorone got 100k but Poker tournament escaped the cull.

What the fuck happened to Lize? How did she peak at only 7k?

>>15705215
>caring about vtubers
>When MC tubers easily pull several hundreds of thousands and Mrbeast charity drive can easily hit 200k+
The last thing Susan REALLY cares about are the collateral damage dregs of CCV when they've got bigger fish to fry like fighting off ACTUAL mass-botting attempts by kpop fags.

>2 days into 2022
>Chloe made 5m already

Funny how ITT there's at least 4 variations of the cull.

>>15705298
Tick Tock Rushia

>>15705288
C
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>>15705256
doesn't hololive have a pretty strong Russian present despite not having a single member that speaks Russian(Botan throws them a bone here and there)

>>15705367
Name one place where Hololive doesn't have a strong presence.

>>15705288
SUSAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

>Lize and Mito became 7k chuuba
Grim

>>15705380
Antarctica

>>15705367
Gura sometimes reads russian SCs when she does read them too, so yes.
We've definitely got Russians about too, since they mentioned they've got their own subsections of the web where Hololive stuff is all over the place.

>>15705327
I feel she was hit pretty hard. Her other outfit reveals had over 20k, and now it’s less than half of that

>>15705401
there's probably an antartic scientist right now using their limited wifi to stream the mikorone show right now

>>15705380
Africa

sankisei kinda got mogged in these skits

>>15705380
Africa

>>15705288
>3-4k of her loyal fans that sit through her Genshin and DQ streams decided to bail for her costume reveal
DYRBI?

The numbers are imaginary bullshit but this mikorone show is pretty kino

>>15705406
With now we have Hololyzer and Holostats tracking currencies, I do like to see how many countries have donated each member.

>>15705427
I think there are a couple of Algerian anons on /hlg/
>>15705380
North Korea

>>15705434
Their prompts were trash.

if yt increased the amount of time you had to be tabbed back in to count as a viewer would that explain some of it? or some more general temporal averaging of the conditions which determine whether you get counted as legit viewer

>>15705297
Youtube is a massive company, I highly doubt that they don't have the money and resources to fix their fucking website against gookbots and also fix their livestream's CCVs. They're just incredibly greedy.

Again, they're trying to make a monopoly on streaming which is why they gave Ludwig 30mil to entice other Twitch streamers to flip.

>>15705434
to be fair, their prompt was super dumb

Even my cunnywife got culled down to double digits, fuck you Susan

>>15705127
Do you think those 500k-600k+ VOD views are from a 20k CCV stream?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEjZnPJGTXw
>1m+ views already
Culled hard. This got gold for sure. Cope holobronies.

>>15705526
this is one of the sony vtubers right

>>15705380
Japan

>>15705515
I think you'd be surprised how bloody annoying AND difficult it is to get into an arms race against bot-makers, and sometimes they aren't even really 'bots', just people running a room full of computers running 5-6 browsers to try and game the numbers, as shown by the gif that was posted a day or two ago. That's a pain to try and determine what's a 'real' viewer and what's a spam viewer, and so innocent streamers get caught in the crossfire.

>>15705427
>>15705444
Pretty sure we got a decent number of hololive watchers in africa, otherwise namibia wouldn't be trending in Japan

>>15705551
7 hour stream.
Even so, I agree it definitely got culled.
This Mikorone stream? Also getting culled.
Lize? Culled.
Suisei? Culled.
Noel? Culled.
CULLS FOR EVERYONE, HALF AT RANDOM!

>>15705427
>>15705444
Speaking of Africa, How is NamibiaCam?

>>15705585
They could just focus their efforts elsewhere and let them game the system, it's not like it's costing them money and if anything it gives them something to put on their investors newsletter along the lines of "look how many people are watching youtube"
but nope they had to get into a slapfight with bots

>>15705367
There were no worthy vtubers in russia and many were happy when someone tried to speak russian, so Moona, Gura and Botan gained some popularity. At the moment, the majority of the active russian community has passed to Nina Kosaka.

>>15705380
Namibia

https://youtu.be/6hEvgKL0ClA

Over 150k

>>15705553
Yeah it is.

>>15705625
2.5k with the oryxes showing

>>15705642
> majority of the active russian community has passed to Nina Kosaka
with that ccv is probably a low vocal minority

Mikokoro have been stalling for how long now? How does this work?? Is this the reason why the number is harder going up?

>>15705662
oryx got culled...

>>15705658
She's from isegye, right?
Oh no no no nijibros don't look

>>15705515
>Youtube is a massive company, I highly doubt that they don't have the money and resources to fix their fucking website against gookbots and also fix their livestream's CCVs.
You would be surprised. First, it's a massively complex algorithm and it's highly likely nobody in the current youtube team understand how it works. And then, considering the popularity of youtube, they have to be extremmely careful when implementing the slighest change, unless you want to end up with something like the cull every two weeks. And it's something extremmely difficult to test in a safe environnement because Youtube entire system is based on mass interaction.

>>15705678
Do you mean stalling as in the viewcount?

>>15705667
it wouldn't surprise me if Botan still has more Russian viewers than her. scroll down to her comments and you will find quite a bit of Russian comments still

>>15705658
yagoo please adopt isegye

>>15705585
Nah they're just cheapstakes.

They could easily hire the best teams to fight against these bots instead of using 5 dollar pajeets that only got in due to diversity quotas but nah, have to fight a protracted war of attrition against someone that lives in their parent's basement despite being valued for hundreds of billions of dollars.

>>15705215
>Cover is ridiculously incompetent
Anon, Cover total super chat revenue for 2021 was about 23M dollars, out of which YouTube gets about 7M.

YouTube must have paid Ludvig alone (speaking conservatively) some 3M to move to YouTube.
Do you really think they care about some nip midgets from across the world just because lots of people watch them?

Ten times more people watch divegrass, assorted Indonesian gaming, all sorts of third world bat games (cricket?) and effeminate Korean singers. There is not enough money or audience on vtubing to have any leverage on google

>>15705551

Reached 1 million. Passed Sora, Mio, Ollie, Shion and Moona just like that.

>>15705678
yes youtube places certain limit on the channels and its hard to break these "limits". previously they were stalling at 32k

>>15705723
Yes.

>>15705658
Not too late to buy isegyecoins.

speaking of korea....

>>15705553
Yes, before this she'd always be over 100 even for the most debuff of streams, now she can't even get that for a New Years zatsu, this has to be so demoralizing for chuubas of that size

>>15705726
>adopt
They already have an owner

>>15705741
I don't get it what are they trying to do?? You cut shit in half now this bs.

>>15705760
NijiKR is dead let's fucking GOOOOOOOOOO

>>15704730
>>15704739
>>15704772
>>15704829
She never said that she doesn't want gachikois in fact, she said that she has no problem with that. She just said that she'll not pander to them because it feels unfair for the rest of the fanbase on top of her not knowing how to do it.
Also her fanbase knew that already, more or less

>>15705733
They paid around 30M for Lud.

>>15705760
Health = legal action

>>15705633
>They could just focus their efforts elsewhere and let them game the system
They could solve the problem very easily.
Much like they created
>subs only mode
to curb chat spam they could give streamers the option for
>logged in only
or even
>subs only
mode to **watch** the stream, but that every person watching gets counted.

VSPO getting the cull too.

https://youtu.be/E5XFltaDhMM
>Predict the Pekora new year unboxing numbers
30k at least?

>Roberu getting 1.1k
Cull bros?

>>15705870
30-40K is my bet

>>15705551
>7 hour stream
>35k+ CCV throughout
>At least 4 separate intermissions where people came and left

>>15705873
It is somewhat random. Mysta and Ike didn't appear to have been culled yesterday either.

>>15705873
Yo son survive or is it??? Homo got culled way way way before??

>>15705870
That's pre cull numbers.
Post cull: ~15k

>>15705769
I remember someone posted his stream playing Minecraft with Miko 3d here

>>15705870
>>15705933
I say 23k tops.

>>15705917
HOMOS HAVE BEEN 10K STREAMERS THIS WHOLE TIME

YAGOO KNEW AND THATS WHY THEY STILL GET TONS OF SUPPORT

>>15705870
18k-19k.

>friend struggling to break 10k at a handcam pokemon card unboxing stream after an hour
Susan you whore...

>>15705870
20k

>>15705870
They capped tokyo ghoul at 14-15k. So Peko is 20k.

>>15705873
>>15705915
The cull is gender based to close the problematic YouTube Gender gap
>male: your view is counted as 0.5 view
>female: view counted as 1.5 view to counterbalance

This literally explains everything, prove me wrong niggers

>>15706017
She got 11k i think.

>>15706017
Friend is so buffed that 11k looks like normal numbers despite the cull

>>15705941
You jest but pre 2020 December cull Aruran was doing these EOP teach me foreign memes streams that got 2k regularly. December cull hit, he was down to 1k on them.

>>15705805
Expecting the rrats nest to care about facts?
NGMI

If you sent this pic 3 weeks back in time and said
>Mito will fail to break 8k on a game
>Lize will fail to break 8k on an outfit reveal
>Hal will fail to break 10k on weekend APEX
this thread would call “fake and gay”.

January ranking of median of peaks will be a bloodbath.

>>15705733
I don't understand why this Ludwig guy is a big deal to warrant such a ridiculous amount? By all accounts he's not exactly a high CCV streamer compared to a lot of holos and even some of the random spictubers on youtube. Never even heard of the fucker like say, XQC, Dream, Dr Disrespect etc

>>15706191
The graphs for average CCV are going to make December 2020 look like paradise in comparison...good lord.

>>15706191
I still can’t get over Lize with only 7k for an outfit. Why was she hit so hard?

>>15706191
They're overlapping niji Poker tournament ,anon

>>15706227
He was the most sub'd streamer on twitch at some point I believe then XQC passed him or something?

>>15706227
He had the record for 'Highest Twitch subs' (basically an analog for YT memberships), so it's the idea of poaching well-known names and attempting to grab the viewerbase attached to the names and haul them over to YT livestreaming.

>HoloEn and NijiEN already suffering under cull and barely affected by the new one
>NijiEn is now going to be heavy hitters in Nijisanji despite being made fun of and abandoned by JP nijis
Oh how the turntables

>>15705733
Cover brings youtube more money that Ludvig does so I imagine Cover matters to youtube AT LEAST more than Ludvig does.

>>15706227
>I don't understand why this Ludwig guy is a big deal to warrant such a ridiculous amount?
He’s not. Companies like Google likely have a marketing budget measured on the hundreds of millions per year.

Some middle management likely presented this pitch
> For 40M I can make sure YouTube makes headlines worldwide, in all tech circles and presented positively against Twitch, and have them stay running for some 3 weeks.
>Proposed value acquired: 100M in free publicity
>Proposed expenditure: 40M plus tip

>>15706292
>NijiEN suffering under the cull
Proof?

>>15706265
>poach well known streamer from twitch so that others can follow suit
>stealth debuff his numbers so that normies would think that streaming on Youtube is worse
I don't understand YouTube

>>15706257
>overlapping
She gained more viewers during the splatoon finals.

>>15706322
>I don't understand YouTube
You know how governments are incompetent fuckwits because even if a few of the guys on top are amazing, micromanaging everything is impossible? So it is for youtube. They're so big they profit by sheer inertia, despite upper management incompetence. Like Hololive

>>15706322
That's the thing anon, nobody understands Youtube, not even Youtube. That's why people make entire careers out of trying to figure it out.

>my oshi is finally getting enough paypig money to pay for her equipment and vegetable juice
You guys should take the indie pill, just one sub makes a huge difference when you're numberfagging with 750 subs

>>15706322
> Youtube video team makes changes to view counter algo
> forgets to ask Youtube Gaming team if it might effect ccvs
> pushes to prod
pajeets doing a days work of pajeet coding.

Does mini player count for ccv?

I was checking out some Nijis, and uh is this normal for her?

Presented without comment

>>15705805
She pretty clearly stated she doesn't want them in her fanbase anon. So stop being one or get out. By her fanbase already knowing that, you mean her hardcores which isn't the majority. You have to remember most viewers aren't like most anons in the Sui thread/cord.

>>15706301
Cover is already on youtube though, just need to retain them and from the bug zapper implemented on coco and fbk's channel, I assume cover is already working closely with youtube.

Niji VN is doing good though.

>>15706423
apex debuff. probably
astel with apex debuff is also below 1k.

>>15706257
>They're overlapping niji Poker
They could be overlapping fucking Koshien, anon.

Lize didn’t go below 10k overlapping the fucking Mario Kart tournament when it was holding over 100k the whole time, actually she even inclined all the way to 16k for the duration.

>>15706423
Not far off. Despite now being niji's only CR Cup winner after Bora graduated, Seto doesn't get much viewership.

>>15706423
Yes. Setomiya doesn't get much hype from the APEX community even though she's technically a CR Cup winner. Eru/Putechi gets more views than her.

>>15706430
YOOOOOOOOOOUUUUTTTTTTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>15706435
>She pretty clearly stated she doesn't want them in her fanbase anon.
Care for a timestamp?

>>15706430
jesas watame is going to shear herself at this point

great ad for NijiEN and VOMS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE_hFAH_Y5o
100k already

>>15706430
This doesn't look anything out of the ordinary
SC reading right?

The Jews once more proved their fear of the Samurai. %%And most of all, cunnys%%

>>15706516
*SLAP*
THE THUMBNAIL
IN THE BACKGROUND
ANON PLS. IRONIC SHITPOSTING IS STILL SHITPOSTING.

>>15706498
Needs VShojo
>>15706495
Bringing back peak Watame numberfag shit from 2020?

>>15706430
I don't remember the last time WNF was this low

>>15706516
Check the stream pls.

>pekora under 15k on a handcam unboxing stream
nousagis... our queen...

>>15706569
50% CULL FOR EVERYONE LET'S GO!

>>15706569
shart sends her regards

>>15706516
Even if you don't know moonrunes, you should be able to read the fucking latin script in the picture since you used it in your post.

>>15706493
Just make a clip so people stop arguing about this

>>15706498
the nijis and voms bits are pretty bad compared to the holo parts in this one

they need to stop doing this vr horror shit or at least use a better game.

>>15706569
Stop larping. You're not watching the stream. Handcam stream my ass.

>>15706319
search the last thread(s), waiting room struggling graph

Holy shit Pekora this is bad

>>15706569
She's overlapping MiKorone, anon

>>15706430
For comparison this was last week's, took 8 minutes to recover the waiting room numbers then carried on steeply inclining to around double that. Today she's starting to stall while still well short of the waiting room figure 25 minutes in.

>>15706569
You mean she's just showing off pictures of the mountains of swag square enix dumped on their fav rabbit surely.

>>15706430
I wonder if the 'CCV' for the live stream updates with interaction. Meaning those in the waiting room are 'initially' culled, but then get added back to the CCV count if they interact with the video in any way, be that like, dislike, or commenting in the chat.

This makes me think Gura's DMC numbers are good lol

Maybe these are the real numbers and everything before was bloated shit/bots.

>>15706569
>ccv cull

lmao Jun looks normal tho, pekors just reclining accept it holokeks

>>15706709
Please, even I think those got the numbers they deserve. Gura's absolutely terrible at the games and forgets everything inbetween sessions.

>>15706708
No people were posting videos of themselves commenting in the chat of "0 viewer" streams

>>15706708
a JOP already proved it doesnt work like that by commenting, liking, subscribing on a 0 CCV stream

>>15706709
Gura sama...my kneels...

Only 9 streams over 10k today.

>>15706719
>inflated pool numbers
sure man, rev up those tin foils

>>15706756
5k is the new 10k...

>>15705667
no you don't understand, people are happy because jp vtubers trying to speak their language, not their own kind becoming vtuber and speak their own language

>>15706608
Are there even any good VR horror games? That's not RE7.

>>15706725
I actually want an explanation for this

>>15706743
Barely anyone cares about skill anon. Tons of people praise the combat in DMC but I doubt most players actually try to do anything, especially all the sudden fans that came out of the woodwork when DMC5 was a thing.

>>15706709
Anon those numbers ARE good. You could take the biggest DMC gameplay expert and make him play DMC and he'd never touch 10k. Meanwhile incompetent shark bumbling through the game and fangirling over Dante draws 10-15k.

>>15706744
Gotcha, I take back what I said then.

>>15706725
Husband stole the audience...

>>15706719
Of course anon, they just haven't fixed the pools, likes, VODs, twitter, sub gains from those pesky bots

>>15706789
Less people care about vtubers now. Weren't stanu and Shaka numbers still the same too?

>>15706536
I think nyanners is the only vshojo to have done rap covers
still better than anyone else in that video though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKRTRnJ-Rfs

>>15706744
Got any links to this proof? I'd actually like to see it for real.

>>15706631
What's the bad about her numbers???????????

>>15706795
People care about skill in the way it effects the entertainment of the stream. Gura is really bad in a way that makes watching her play DMC just frustrating and not entertaining.

>>15706822
Jun's numbers were always high tho? He just maintained, didn't steal anything.

>>15706789
YouTube flagging vtuber viewers as bots

>>15706862
Those people are a minority dude and most of that minority don't even stop watching because they keep commenting. You can be autistic and care about that shit but just recognise that most dont think that way.

Ayame will stream mario kart later.

https://youtu.be/qkawmOxU11Y
That's fun

>>15706862
Her DMC streams are her lowest viewed yes but Gura neutral is somewhere at 15-20k. If you think about it even her supreme incompetence at DMC gameplay isn't really debuffing her that much.
You're also underestimating the "holy shit she actually did it" buff for DMC3 (which I'm actually surprised she finished) and the fact that she really fucking loves the cutscenes.

>>15706789
It's pretty obvious that the youtube algo considers the people that watch Jun as 'real' youtube users, probably because they watch more than just Jun or whatever other esoteric witchcraft they think matters. While a lot of people who watch chuubas are considered fake since they don't display expected behaviors.

Ayame is streaming tonight. It will be interesting to see the damage.

>>15706849
There was that recent Ludwig rub, Vshojo's inclining.

>>15706927
Ojou no....

>>15706944
Weren't her numbers already lower once she started streaming more frequently?

>>15706944
I want to see suisei comparison since both of them are playing the same game

>>15706927
>>15706929
>>15706944
She comes to save the none event numbers today

Anyone have any tweet of nene vote poll? I need it

>>15706975
Well Suisei doesn't have Nakirium XD buff.

>>15706940
new rrat?

People who watch variety shows on youtube don't get culled, ie: niji main while some holo/niji viewers only watch them exclusively.

>>15706851
https://twitter.com/otooriDAAAAAAAA/status/1476914399340556289

>>15706838
Surely clippers channels would sharply decline too then. Care to provide comparison for your hypothesis?

>>15706851
it's in one of those jp twitter links a few threads back

>>15706975
Suisei's the reigning champ tho

>>15705714
You're also not factoring in the idea that having YouTube actually announcing any particular errors like this publicly would be more harmful for their reputation to advertisers than it would be to content creators if they simply ignored it outright.
They'll never publicly address, nor fix this issue until legal action would be pursued, and due to Google's sheer size and power, that'll never happen.

>>15706851
>>15707016
thats a burner account, see the wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20211231135834/https://twitter.com/otooriDAAAAAAAA/status/1476914399340556289

Niji’s mahjong participation lottery is tomorrow. I wonder how badly it’s gonna be hit by the cull

>>15706944
is sub 10k ayame possible?

>>15707029
You can find both Shaka and Stylishnoob on twitch.
>>15707014
Youtube is used so much now, I doubt any Nijifag/Holofag ONLY watches stuff from the company they support.

Watame finally passed her waiting room number after 35 minutes, still WNF has never been under 7k, only under 8k twice and under 9k 6 times. At this rate it won't even make it to 5k...

>>15705870
Laugh at this post

A real key would be to see what kind of streams/etc that are usually pushed by google (new/covid shill shit/etc) and see how/if that's affected at all. Google doing behind the scenes fuckery to boost whatever is actual "acceptable" programming should not surprise anyone.

I really want to numberfag the number of DQ slime merchs Pekora own. She have a fuck ton of those

>>15707016
Appears to be deleted.

>>15707080
Looking at this day numbers. Yes it is very much possible.

>>15706914
I never said that most people think that way though? I'm just explaining simple viewer mechanics. The streamer's skill doesn't usually matter, how entertaining they are with that skill is the important thing.

>>15706939
I'm just talking about the effects of skill upon viewership, not all that other stuff. Anyway I ended up just watching clips of her enjoying the cutscenes and her dante love.

Fuck you Susan

Pewdiepie's at 10k lmao, Youtube's black sheep's getting sheared

Suisei has 14k likes and never broke 8k viewers.
perfectly normal.

>>15706725
jun's big streams on youtube used to often do 100-130k

>>15707084
On the contrary, I would not be surprised if a lot of japanese chuuba watchers created new accounts for it.

>>15707161
Pewds dont really get that high ccv anon.

>>15707165
JP's suddenly likes streams and engage LMAO? But isn't this just the same with EN vtubers?

Miko and Korone saying they can't use the survey feature on youtube due to reasons. Wonder what that is.

Mikorone will be doing poll for debate

>>15707195
He normally gets 16k to 20k from what I've seen when I can catch his streams

>>15707195
People usually shit on his ccv for >100 million sub, but his usual number is still around 20-25k

>>15707165
JP viewers usually just leave a like and move on, it's EN streams that see lower likes than viewers.

>>15707258
This one's new lmao

>>15706435
No, she did not. Give me the stream where she said that

>>15707258
Isn’t it the opposite???

>>15707195
>Pewds dont really get that high ccv anon.
>>15707228
>He normally gets 16k to 20k from what I've seen when I can catch his streams
Here are some numbers from 16k

Cmon korone throw up the poll and see how ridiculous the cull is

>>15707214
On twitter, because they said they can't use the YT poll right now for whatever reason

>>15707258
retard

>>15707084
I use a different account on edge to watch holo exclusively. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

>>15707311
16th Dec, I mean

Ok maybe I'm dumb but I think pekora is recovering from the cull a little bit
26 dec
>First undertale stream only 16k
Today
>no game stream
>no hand cam
>overlapping with mikkorone
>14k

>>15707297
>>15707331
Fuckin baited kek

>>15707362
No.

>>15707362
lol no. She got 17k talking and eating breakfast in a morning stream not long ago. She also got 14k shilling a trash gacha that even gacha fans hate.

>>15707362
You are dumb

>>15707362
You're dumb. There is zero way Pekora doing an intimate stream on a sunday primetime would get less than 20k, she usually opened on "boom boom cha" with 15k

>>15707362
No, you dummy. Pekora were really fucking big, so culling them still gets "huh well that looks okay" numbers.

>>15707016
>>15707056
>Deleted
I want one pls

>>15707362
I hope you're trolling because pekora had never dipped below 15k except for that shilling game. This stream would be an easy 20k+ for her

>>15707327
Youtube disabled it because it was exposing them?

>>15707378
>Makes a dumb narrative
>I-I'm just joking h-hahaha
The state of this thread is hilarious LMAO

>>15707419
She has even for shilling games, extremely rare but it has happened.

>>15707382
>>15707399
>>15707407
>>15707413
>>15707417
>>15707419
>a little bit
I didn't see she's recovered fully

>>15707479 (me)
meant for other things then shilling games, had a brain fart..

>>15707258
Got a chuckle out of me, thanks anon.
>>15707211
Yeah, HoloEN fans have been calling it out for a while now, but it was met with dismissive posts like above.
For instance right now a Bae/Sana collab has 7k likes with 2.7 live views. Granted, it's been running for roughly 3 hours now, but we're supposed to believe with a straight face that over double their current live audience simply "liked" the stream without actually watching any of it and leaving.
Now that the shoe's on the other foot, it's suddenly become a problem.

>>15707327
100% youtube disabled polls because it was exposing them.

>>15707496
Thats faaaaar from being recovered.

>>15707496
Still no.

Bae barely streamed over 3 hours the past couple of months and now she's done two 3 hour streams back to back for 2022. She is really taking the whole streaming thing seriously now. I wish the rest of Council would pick up the pace too

So 6-7k should be Pekora absolute floor from now on. Take note

>>15707514
Someone needs to clip that nene poll. Fucking YT is being shady af.

Here is a bold prediction for January end of month ranking. Assuming everything continues as it is

1) Nijisanji will have exactly one streamer (with more than 10 streams in the month) over 10k median: Kuzuha.
2) Nijisanji *may* have another streamer with 5 or more stream in the month over 10k median: Toya
3) Nijisanji will have zero streamers over 20k median

4) Hololive will have six or seven streamers (with more than 10 streams in the month) over 10k median
5) Hololive *maybe* will have one streamer (with more than 10 streams) over 20k median , if the "HoloEN didn't get culled this time as hard / didn't get culled this time" pans out: Gura
6) Hololive *may* have another streamer with 5 or more stream in the month over 20k median: Ayame

Let's see how well this will age in a month or so

>>15707362
She usually got this much on after stream supa reading, so no.

>>15704385
No offense to you lads, but the 2time has way more personality than any cartoon faced whore.
I would watch a collab of him verbally abusing them until they break though. I heard he's into breathplay, maybe he'll squeeze the life out of their petite throats!

jesas, even fubuki with pokemon stream couldn't save the day

>>15707362
She probably will never recover from this so prepare to get visited by chumbuds and Pekoschizo more often from now on

>>15707561
We already had proof that YT was being shady from all those EN polls but suddenly it's only a problem now that it affects JPs.

This can't be... our streamers are getting beaten by literal whores at Twitch... What do we do now?

>>15707557
->
>>15707620
Almost 50% cull.

>Suisei has more viewers than Pekora
What the fuck

>>15707697
The yab. Why are people still surprised? It's been a week

>>15707680
Shitpost aside, I don't use Twitch, but they must have VOD views recorded correct?
Is there any particular metric it's captured by, or do sudden "raid" additions count towards that total?

If it wasn't for two huge company-wide collabs (that both didn't get 50k) today's gold would be FubuMio horse pussy at 17k

I know Pekora's doing terrible in CCVs but holy shit those red supas tho..

don't look at noel numbers rn....even sana doing better kek

>>15707662
Anon, this thread is already heavily biased against EN, almost nobody gave a shit when we were posting evidences that YT is fucking up, only now that the JPs are heavily affected are the last ninnins getting uppity because "muh JP idols can't be beat by your EN whores"

>>15707742
>>15707697

Pekora is in her ending part, reading super chats and chatting shit.
Suisei is in the middle of Mario Kart practice, one of the games she excels at and she can't break 8k..

For once in your life, stop being niggers.

So... How are you holding on nousagibros?

Here are some numbers of the impact of this change on the numbes of the mid tier Holos

Here is a very dense chart, but one whose punchline will be worth it.
> 7 days rolling median of peak CCV

Whatever happened is hitting certain streamers hard
>Flare is at an all time low
>Luna is at an all time low
>Watame, Okayu and Botan been lower: once

It is from yesterday, I'll keep this updated and add Nijisanji livers to it as well

>>15707812
I really didn’t believe you until I checked her channel....wtf

>15707821
Bruh. We know you're samefagging. Give up already

>>15707837
Watch stream and for once I realize how many slime merchs she own, jesus
I personally hate those slimes but she love it

>>15707768
Raids count I think, if a streamer raids when his target ends hers, it counts

>>15707662
Nobody in this thread except a tiny handful of retards ever denied that Holo EN was culled in December 20 and were hit harder than JP, there was just no evidence for a further cull since then until now

>>15707844
this is just sad to look at

>>15707930
>ignoring the last ninjas claiming that EN was reclining in CCV when the cull was simply increasing over time

WHY MY KOYOTE ONLY HAS 3K VIEWERS DOING ASMR I'M GOING INSANE AHHHHHHHH

>>15707768
If you're a twitch partner, your vod is saved for 60 days then it's deleted. In order to avoid the copyright bots, a lot of big twitch streamers automatically delete their vods after streaming and use youtube for vods.

>>15707969
no belly button expose debuff....

>>15707969
*susansmile.jpg*
Get used to it, everyone/s going to be below 20k, and only the upper-most chubbas will EVER break 20k outside of events and collabs EVER again.
This is the new normal.
If polls are disabled, this was on purpose.
DOOMED. FOREVER DOOMED.

>>15707969
The vtuber fad is over in Japan

>>15707844
Furea...

Ok, Im done, I will stop numberfaging until YT does something or one of the big holo/niji chuubas stream on twitch and show how shit YT is

https://twitter.com/HanChiho2434/status/1477639857598255104
and another one

>>15708003
Why tho. Why kill their own CCV deliberately then disable polls to hide it. Whats the endgame here.

>>15707802
what the actual flying fuck

>>15708003
Poll numbers make YouTube look bad. CCV will be chopped too.

what are the real numbers? No way Watame only has 4.3k live viewers.

>>15708066
they are adopting the bili model. pay to win CCV coming soon

>>15707950
>cull was simply increasing over time
lol
both EN and JP got hit by it in the first place yet EN reclined while JP inclined

So will ayame with her rarity buff will finally save the day?

>>15708052
Yeah nijiKR is cooked.

>>15708119
>JP
>10% cut
>EN
>50% cut
No shit

>TOP FUCKING KEK
They truly must have changed something big for a fuckup of this magnitude to have slipped through

This is the type of stuff that "ambulance chaser" lawyers dream about, customers being charged for things that were promised for free

>>15708085
would not be surprised at this point.

>>15708157
37 and 25

>>15708085
lmao, if it goes toward the streamer ala supachat then it's a non issue to gachikois

>>15708119
>JP inclined
doesn't that mean the cull is not affecting them anymore?

>>15708170
>inb4 all the bullshit that's happened is because some incompetent pajeet pushed code through prod before the holiday break and now it's completely broken everything on the backend

Hahahaha look how quickly sheep's chat got spammed with encore, yeah 4.3k watching my ass

5.6k on a post-content stream for Pekora, I can't fucking believe it. And her chat moves at the same speed it used to a few weeks ago when she used to retain around 10+k of her viewers for the superchat reading...

>>15708157
It was 37% and 26% i think dipshit

>>15708170
Within the next week they disable the ability to stream altogether.

>>15708157
It was a 30% cut to both. JP just inclined by 20% and EN reclined by 20%. Theres your 10/50

>>15708220
That pajeet was the one person who watched NijiIN and he is very pissed. He is determined to crash vtubing with no survivors since his precious branch was shut down.

>>15708220
Would not be surprised in the slightest.

>>15708220
Pretty sure that pajeet either got a promotion or a massive bonus from that fuckup rumao

Pakora BTFO
>muh cull
King got culled even harder. Cope.

>>15708242
There is no culling you retard
HoloJP is just reclining really really hard right now

>Friend 10k GET
Yep, that's the new normal. That's something to celebrate
>it took a funnel too, I think

>>15705731
I see this a lot here, but it's not true. Google and the rest of the top tech companies pay significantly more than the rest. Visa holders get paid a bit less since they have a worse negotiating position initially, but even they get paid very handsomely compared to the rest of the market.

>>15708310
Gura-sama!!! Save Pekora onegai!!!

>>15708327
friend, please do another shiny hunt to win the numbers back

>>15708310
How did bronzeboy get culled harder if he seldom beat Pekora throughout the whole year? You're not making any sense Nijinigger.

>>15708230
She's overlapping a major Mikorone event anon, that's to be expected.

Someone please save Noel....her numbers even worse than bae playing ac...

Gura-sama... I was wrong .. Please save my oshi Pegora!!

It is time to let go, pandemic is over, vtuber bubble is nothing new anymore, we have too much suply of vtubers, but the demand is reclining. 10k ccv is the new pattern.

Alright screw this I'm jumping ship, see you in /vsj+/ Twitchbros.

>>15703008
>thread about old numbers
>it's full of last samurai coping about gura beating everyone to 1M subs

>>15708382
No that's not, she used to have 10~k viewers whenever she reached the part C of her stream, and that whenever she was overlapping or not with an event. Pekora reaching barely 5k now is clearly showing something wrong with the CCV once again.

Schizos and their bait declining...

>>15708422
If 10K ccv is the new pattern that means VShojo will mog Hololive and Njisanji regularly.

So we worship Gura now? It seem no one bother finding us a new mascot

>>15708435
Gura makes the last samurai eternally seethe and it makes me laugh every time.

It seem fubuki got buffed enough that culled number look like her normal number…

>>15708310
Better luck next time King.

>>15708487
that's the power of friend... of akai na

>>15708477
>a literal anti numberfag
No. And Laplus deserves to die on a hill for her outfit reveal.
Maybe Chloe.

>>15708448
>schizo(s)

last cowboy replying to himself again kek

>>15707844
Everyone crashed after December 26th

>>15708477
I like how a month ago Holox was treated as /ourgirls/ but now they're shaping up to be gen 5 tier aside from scs

Hey anons, how's my CCV?

>>15708506
>>15708520
But Gura got the numbers

>>15708529
REIMU I LOVE YOU PLEASE MARRY ME

>>15708529
anon, im sorry to say this, but your (you)'s are getting culled

>>15708529
Reimu, it's always been shit. Still is.

>>15708327
not a funnel, she had her gold magikarp solo the water gym leader

>>15708557
If this thread swarmed towards the biggest numbers then Gura would have always been the mascot.
But that's not the case.

Streaming is dead on YouTube now! They should all just switch to prerecorded skits!

>>15708529
>8529
Impressive. Check my ccv

>pekora is sub 5k
It's ogre...

There is no cull. What happened was this very thread forced Namibia to trend because we wanted to meme it. Due to us being heavy vtuber watches the Namibia stream got recommended to other vtuber watches. Now all those viewers stopped watching vtubing and are now obsessed with Namibia.

Oryx-chan WILL mog your oshi.

100k to go.

>>15708575
Yea, she's been doing gimmick fights against the gym leaders because normal battles with her Luxray and Monferno would be too easy.
Her fight against the grass gym leader, she used her fucking magikarp and Clefable only.

>>15708631
Oryx-chan got culled as well, see >>15705662, used to get 6k when she appeared, now down to 2.5k

At this point, 200k peak ccv, no graduation stream is never gonna be a reality.

>tfw you realize that if some Pajeet didn't fuck up we would've seen Mikkorone break 100k

Hope you are all ashamed of your words and deeds.

>mfw this thread is forced to use subs and VODS only from now on and admit Gura's uncontested superiority

>>15708631
you call those horns?

>>15708688
All Rokisei costumes would've been 100k+

Two polls made for Mikkorone

One made at Korone twitter: https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1477645003698892803
16 697 votes
40 665 CCV at the time it was posted
41.06% participation rate

Second one made at Miko twitter: https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1477648090303971328
19 789 votes
40 752 CCV at the time it was posted
48.56% participation rate

>>15708631
I always knew Orxy-chan could be an idol too

>>15708506
Foolish anon, the characters who are powerful without trying are always the coolest. You never truly see them go all out so even when they lose you know it's not really a loss.

https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1477604103232823296
MC arc is starting again, will it revive everyone's numbers?

>>15708715
polls on twitter don't count