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General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR
10 minutes in, 25k viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEjZnPJGTXwSerious gold candidate for today
>>15692372elon musk-sama!! please help us!!!
>>15692024and youtube is on their complete right to deny the views on embedded sites, this completely denies a user from interacting with their platform in the expected way
>>15692431Looks like we have a winner
>>15692119This is because you're looking at it from a tribal perspective of Holo vs Niji.Even if something like "The popular holos are popular" is obvious, it's interesting to study what content is popular for each member, if members are inclining/declining, what types of games are popular, debut buff duration and audience retention...etc>Holo beats Niji.Except we just saw literally a few days ago that it's not as one-sided as the daily numbers paint. Nijis still have the stronger tourist pull, stronger presence on japanese social media, stronger presence on Youtube Japan...etc.Holos destroying Nijis in daily numbers doesn't necessarily mean they're more popular than Nijis in Japan, it just means they have more loyal watchers that stick around after the big events. That's good for the girls and their numbers/SCs, but we know when it comes to "popularity", we're talking about who's more mainstream and breaking out of the niche circle.What we've seen from Niji events is that their normie attracting ability is much stronger this year than last year, while most Holo events have seemingly hit a cap. We haven't had a holo main POV stream hit 100k CCV yet, and Niji event VODs honestly destroy Holo event VODs. Niji Splatoon tournament VOD has slightly more views than Miko's POV in the Holo sports fes, and that's their 3rd most successful tournament this year. (Both 1.5 mil) Koshien and Niji Mario kart are close to 3 mil.Globally, of course, it's no contest that Hololive is more popular, but Japan makes up most of the vtuber watching audience.
>>1569243131k. You can call it now2) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 31k+ . Poker Tournament
>>15692592pretty sure this will hit 60k
>Watching RBC>She went out to buy gbf stones, lose 500 viewers>She comes back, gain 500 viewersSorry numbers, I thought that alttab cope was not true.
>>15692431holobros... the cull...
>>15692591You wrote a lot of words to say>Nijisanji main channel is popular in Japan, similar to a TV station with a cast of stars>Nijisanji livers own channels aren't, except when they take the role of "main channel"It is a fair assessment
>>15692431Predicted this to get around 50-60k yesterday since Poker is number poison, but Anycolor did have a massive event and so they're still on people's mind when it comes to big events.I don't know how Korone/Miko's thing is going to do since they both seemingly got culled hard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWXpMucaneI>207k VOD views for a 1:47 hour stream with a 7.4k peakThose are Kiara's numbers and she doesn't get close to 200k VOD views unless the stream is 8-9 hours.
WAIT WAIT WAIT .... it's slowing down
>>15692838this is normal behavior in my books
>>15692735I would likened it more to SNL.It's one of the most watched shows on TV and get massive numbers during big events like special shows.There's 2-3 big stars and bunch of nobodies and about 10% of the audience for events cares to check out the individual comedians.
>>15692542Reminds me how Gen 6 disabled embedded views early on.
>>15692613>60kdoesnt look like
>Mito at 4kThe fuck is this bullshit
>>15692982yes, because this way you are not feeding the algorithm with interactions and that is YT business model
>>15692542>this completely denies a user from interacting with their platform in the expected wayThis is what happens if they let it happen like twitch lmaohttps://twitchtracker.com/fextralife>20k average, dead as fuck chat because no one is actually watching
>>15693023She usually get 10k+ on judge eyes right?
I can't wait for the likes of Towa and Ayame to stream again and see if they're affected by it and if it has anything to do with having streams after the karaoke relay.Aqua seems unaffected (if a 12k NY countdown is normal at all) after all.
>>15693023In all Mito streams on Mado's record she never failed to clear 5k.If this stream doesn't incline (and it looks to be reclining) it will be her first time.
>>15692236People stopped using the original multiview site because the primary developer abandoned it and it was a kludge'd together mess that quickly fell far behind Dex's viewer in features(locked auto-resizing grid vs completely user controlled click and drag sizing)
Noel got her 5k with pokemon. She aint doing anything special and came to the train late so it is on her normal side for numbers.The culling didint stop roboco from pulling 5k on granblue.Nene got affected and didnt reach her peakMito right now is REALLY underperfroming on her judgement series compared to the other times. COuld be a time issue or could be she is overlapping the main channel.Maybe what they put is a system similar to what they do for susb and vod views on new channels. And is now verifying users that used to be regular AGAIN rather. Or maybe cache servers are fucked somewhere and out of sync.Need another week of info.Btw how did the poer torunament go last year for niji?
>>15693073That reminds me, Twitch were going to start selling recommendations for fans to buy for channels they like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gplmMu1Mc0Q>Kanae splitting his POV for pokerYOU FUCKING BITCH, WHAT ABOUT THE NUMBERS
Niji gold huh today
>>15693179>>15693200What numbers? Are they edible?
>>15693179Everyone is doing their own POV I think, and poker was bad for numbers anyways.Would've been more numberfaggy to start streaming Apex again.
>>15692431>Mahjong 2021>https://playboard.co/en/video/TlKhpkOLrR8>58k, 20-minute markNot sure if this is the first episode. The rest I could find were 2nd half prelim, semi finals and finals
Things that if you sent back in time to mid 2019 people would laugh at youIt's not over yet and Mito is likely to overtake Roboco but this is amusing and a sign of times
>inb4 poker tournament is being culled right now but we can't tell since poker has been awful numbers for every NijiKek
>>15692542I remember Holodex's dev said that watching multi streams on their website count.
>>15693341Maybe when it was first made but today I guarantee it doesn't.
>>15693213just prep your knees holobros
>>15693341when and based on what?
>>15693323vs Roboco, I don't think it looks good for Mito anon..
>>15693270it got 88k in ONE instance last year. Not sure whichi one is it>>15693270And doesnt look like most follow this kind of events
>>15693379did you kneel yesterday?
>>15693379>Mito losing to Noel playing PokemonWow, Nijibros, I kneel.
>>15693379My knees are ready. Numbers give no fuck about tribalwars
>>15693379Unless Korone fucking Miko on stream, Niji will won the gold today.
>>15693200>Niji gold huh today>>15693481>My knees are ready. Numbers give no fuck about tribalwarsFUCK WAITING, I want to kneel now>NijiPoker, I kneel to your unavoidable gold today
bros...niji jops are laughing at us..
>>15693379>CCV
>>15693481But kneelposting increases by 900% every time Niji wins a day?
Where are yesterdays SC numbers? Playboard still hasn't updated
>>15693534But we laugh at them everyday tho
>>15693417Oh no it's 40k now.. What happened to the cull?! What was holox outfit reveal peak again?
>>15693554Well, niji wins once per weeks so the kneels get built up
I'm starting to feel that the cull was never real.
Don't worry Holobros, at least Hololive is still the strongest when it comes to EN & ID (kek)
>>15693652So you didn't kneel. Kneel first, and you shall receive.
>>15693652its over
>back to CCVlmao, this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsvEWEEUWa8(big maybe) gold for tomorrow.
>>15693796>Towa40k
>>15693270>202175k, 50-minute mark>202240k, 50-minute mark
>>15693765Makes sense because tourists do not have suspicious behaviors like that of your average Holobox fan. >>15693811Look at that stacked amount of guests. This better get 60k.
TOP FUCKING KEK>Niji Poker tournament>Can't beat Kuzuha playing with his buddieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtY4M06F5YE
Mito is currently getting only half of what she did in her last Judgement playthrough. Cull or normal drop?
>>15693796easy gold for towar
>>15693792CCV will always be the meta on this thread anon, after all that's the metric which creates the biggest amount of shitposting
>>1569379624 hour funneling
>>15693796Towa didn't participate in the christmas relay which cursed everyone
>>15693833Why are you comparing Mahjong to Poker tho?Mahjong is going to speedrun to 100k this year because it's much more popular to nips than Poker.
>>15693796I hate this so much. This would have been an easy 110k if not for the cull.
>>15693905https://holo.poi.cat/stream/APHXbo1lxGw???
>>15693854Cull.
>>15693905She was second right after Mio you faggot.
>>15693796Buff : Pekora, Ayame, SuiseiDebuff : Kanata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YzskiC1a0gthis video is doing pretty well
This probably will be the peak. 40k is not the unbeatable number I assumed a NijiTournament would pull but of course that could be just numberrot from their last event
>>15693854100% cull, Mito's numbers are like clockwork, there's no reason for that much of a drop besides a cull
>>15694020It's 2pm in Japan man.I don't think it'll peak during Kuzuha's part since he has his own POV, but it's still really early in a long ass stream.
>>15693854I wonder, has there been any stream with a sharp incline lke that lately? It seems to me like streams are way slower to incline these days
>>15694020Poker's a low-tier event, wasn't really expecting anything more than 60k from it.
>>15693995>Pakora>Buff
>>15693796>3D debut got mogged by Maimoto 2020 koshien draft>2021 bday 3D stream got mogged by King 2021 koshien god run>2022 3d live will get mog by Maimoto mahjong lottery draft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GGx7d6QDIITowa...
>>15693811No idea what the cull will do to her since she hasn't streamed since the 26th. Her last 3D live got 67k.
>>15692431seems like a natural recline since nobody likes poker ahrd to tell if its the cull. Mito stream is a better example.On other news lamyy is getting her same numbers of yesterday she got an initial boost form her 7k when she got te golden magikarp but looks lik that run out. Also this sining hunting is far harder.
>>15694061Wait, they're continuing on the main channel? Thought they would pass to the liver channels
>>15693852It's a yearly event comparison anon, doesn't matter. isn't tournament a niji specialty for getting tourists?also >>15693921
>>15693796Towa + Cull = 30k max
>>15694081last year it got 80k
>>15694085Oof Towa is toast.Niji Mahjong has even more participants than Niji MK so the draft is going to be 70-80k at least.
>>15694116but compared to last year it did 50%
>>15694085Why is niji like this? Towa plays with them more than just about any other holomember yet they continually schedule buff shit against her.
>>15694187Maimoto is a buff for event right? Without a cull its an easy 100k draft.
>>15694153Link? I can't find the VOD for Niji poker 2021.
>>15694072I don't see the sharp incline on graphs after the 28th. I'm curious if sharp incline on streams affect how youtube algorithm promotes streams
>>15694225Yep it seems very slow and somewhat capped.
>>15694085>2021 bday 3D stream got mogged by King 2021 koshien god runI still have PTSD from that day.It looked safe for Towa since Kuzuha was at 50k for a few hours, but his god run got better and better.
>>15694020>40k is not the unbeatable numberIt's now, good luck holo on getting 40k!
This is it Nijichads. Holos have fully reclined and will never be able to bounce backFrom this point on Nijis will be the ones to dominate the daily rankingsTO ALL THE DOUBTERS AND THE HATERS: YOU SHOULD HAVE TRUSTED THE PLAN; RIKU WOULD NEVER LET US DOWN2022 WILL B THE YEAR OF NIJISANJI
>>15693854Dec. 22nd is wednesday to boot
>>15694072You're correct that sharp inclines have been smoothed BUT keep in mind those graphs have extremely different timescales. If you spread out 21:15 to 21:55 on the right hand graph it would look a bit more like the left hand graph.
>>15694333but anon... there was only 2 niji entries out of 32 10k frames yesterday...
>>15693854One counterargument would be timeslot.She's doing today's stream on a Sunday 2pm slot, whereas her last stream was Weds at 9pm.But it is weird.
>>15694333>Dead cat bounce is real
>>15693652I honestly think the cull is bullshit for both sides since the poker is probably getting more watchers than what it actually shows.
>>15694415is saturday it isnt that much of a debuff.
>>15694398>caring about anything else outside of the gold medalIf you're not first, you're last
>>15694415Sunday usually gives better numbers though.
>>15694020The culling is probably hitting it too which is why it's locked at 40k.
>>15694474But anon, Holo got gold yesterday uncontested...
someone save her
>>15694333The culling is affecting Nijis too since the Poker collab is locked at 40k and Mito is being reduced to 4 digits.
>>15694474>dominate>only gold mattersanon... i don't know if you are retarded. also niji was #9 yesterday, so yes, they were lastmaybe you mean monthly tally?
>>15694072Both NJU's streams have sharp incline at the beginning (well, sharp enough)https://vrabi.ml/video/zoynMroawZwFor individual streams, at least Pekora's DQ last night didhttps://vrabi.ml/video/d-Iy2E0vzEwLamy's NY fishing did toohttps://vrabi.ml/video/oH_BgqNhh60There are definitely more, but I'm too lazy to look them all up
Stop responding to cull deniers ffs.Can someone please post of pic of Fubuki getting 700k VOD views from a 11k CCV average stream and comparing it to her other 700k VOD with a 30k average?
>>15694647
>>15694638Thanks, the streams I was keeping tabs on all had that slow incline
>>15694551>4 Holo streams now, 3 are pokemon, all not great numbersLui knows the answer for her to get better numbers, she's just too much of a wuss to play Outlast again.
>>15694647>Holos win in CCVVOD doesn't count, CCV is the only metric>People suddenly realize Holos are boring as shit and then Holos start losing CCVCCV DOESN'T COUNT; ONLY VOD MATTERS
What
I just want to say i'm sorry. I have been talking shit to the en girls especially kronii, ina and gura. This whole time they were pulling 10-20k (20-40k old ccv counter). Gomenasai.
>>15694820>Holos win in CCV>VOD doesn't count, CCV is the only metricNah, only nijiniggers wouldn't count vods particularly when it comes to Gura
>>15694861None of the Nijis playing right now are popular.Everyone has their split POVs but Oliver is the one getting the most at 1.7k.Melissa's stream numbers are honestly so bad for someone with so many popular covers.
>>15694861I know nothing about his content. What's unusual about this?
Does holostars got any culling?
>>15694927NTA, but I believe his point was that Gwelu's stream received more Likes than CCV, which is highly uncommon for a Niji stream
Please save Lui nee...
>>15695005Well Niji streams don't get many likes, but 257 vs 314 is barely anything.He's still going to get a couple thousand views in the end for the stream afterall.
>>15694938The answer is exactly there, he's pulling 1.5k+ regularly, and now under 300 for a tourney
>>15695015Holy shit, those are ID tier number
>>15695099What I meant was, can someone more familiar with his content tell me if his post-28th streams were naturally debuffed (eg no collabs) or did his average halve overnight?
>>15695015Susan has decided to banish her to the Sana realm
Easy test for cull in Noel's karaoke stream coming up.She hasn't gotten less than 10k on a karaoke in months, even with overlap.https://holo.poi.cat/stream/klDJgErUlLMhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/EKNxh9E397Mhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/NKw69mZz2Dghttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/XCZ_VLwEtLk
If I were the CEO of a vtuber company, I'd prefer having loyal fans who would watch your stream and buy your merch instead of thousands of tourists who would only visit during events because the former pays bills, the latter doesn't. It's already proven time and time again that after the event, the exposure didn't incline any of the vtubers themselves.
so anti-cull posters are geninue shitposters, right? I feel like not even nijifans can deny that now
>>15695180There's no real need for further tests. We know the cull is real beyond a shadow of a doubt. Nene got 110% participation on her poll within 2 mins. Assuming a 50% participation which is still extremely high she probably had double the number of people watching her than what Youtube was reporting and this meshes pretty well with the 50% cut in CCV we've seen since the 30th
>>15695259I mean, it still seems to be somewhat random. Some get culled and some do not. It didn't look like Mysta or Ike got culled today for example.
Lamy usually pull 9-10k playing pokemon at this hour. Now, it's 6-7k...feels bad man.
Holobros....
>>15695259Most of this thread was anti cull posters until a few days ago. Welcome to the maddening experience of people telling you about the 2020 cull.
>>15695259>I feel like not even nijifans can deny that now >>15693534nijifags think its a holocope
>>15695015She's still inclining and looks to get her usual 2-3k for pokemon.Lui is an interesting bundle of debuffs.Her stream times are awful (overlaps with the biggest events/streamers all the time), her game choices are the most generic holo choices (pokemon and MK spam right now), and there's nothing about her that helps her stand out right now to JOPs except for having a hag voice.I wouldn't be surprised if she's most popular amongst EOPs since she panders to them, but EOPs don't watch her streams because I don't think she has a translator and it's just easier to watch Lui clips.
>>15695259there isnt a vshojo stream live rn that they can start use for shitposting, so this is the alternative
>>15695360Mito now a 6k streamer.....
>>15695394No-one denied the 2020 cull. They only argued against ENfags who tried to claim it hit EN especially hard which was never true. EN was just on a recline that made it look like they got hit harder because you had the natural recline PLUS the cull while JP was recovering well.
>>15695180at this point if you are still looking for proof of a cull then you're retarded
>>15695343I worded it wrong, easy test for if her stream is being culled.We know the culling appears to be completely random and sometimes the same streamer can get culled and then get normal numbers within the same day like Iroha did.
>>15695466>They only argued against ENfags who tried to claim it hit EN especially hard which was never trueLmao
>>15695466>natural reclineGura was literally going up and lost 50% of her viewers. We literally saw this happen days ago.
>>15695343>Nene got 110% participation on her poll within 2 minsKEKthat's on par with African warlords voting counts
>>15695598This only shows that the only council member who gave a shit about streaming was bae
>>15695598I honestly think La+ is the smartest person in both generations. Talk about half the effort for twice the result.
>>15695619It just ignores the amount of streams Kronii and Bae will crash and not stream on their own channel. If you want content form these girls it's just not necessarily on their channel.
>>15695585>Gura was literally going up and lost 50% of her viewers.Gura's numbers consistently decreased from January to March, after the cull. She was reclining. The only respond ENfags have to this is claiming Susan was "increasing the cull" on them specifically which is completely fucking retarded and has no evidence behind it at all.Naturally decreasing numbers + cull = the illusion EN got hurt more than JP.
It must be weird being a Nijisanji fan and knowing you can only win gold when you have these fraudulent "events". Your actual talents can never win gold because no body watches them, lol. Nobody watches Nijisanji.
>>15695643except she wasnt very smart on her outfit reveal
>>15695678I know this is the numberrot thread but she doesn't necessarily benefit for farming up the CCV. Her vod views are fine and that means her ad rev is also fine.
>>15695643Laplus is a real life kusogaki who just does what she feels like
>>15695752>Her vod viewsChumkeks...
>>15695752>vod viewsnow that sounds like a similar cope that i hear from another fanbase which has a cunny chuuba as their oshi
>>15695678Her outfit reveal now has 392k VOD views, which means she's only behind Coco's VOD (423k)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCHMamMb-_A>Last year's numbersCoco (61k peak, 423k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/9-miUIbhZc4Towa (57k peak, 379k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ac80uA4Y0P4Kanata (84k peak, 360k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/0lxAqsyXqegLuna (67k peak, 317k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/e36L2mooaxEWatame (69k peak, 334k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/QJoXqGB4VskPolka (85k peak, 388k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/1q5VK5T4Rw8Lamy (71k peak, 334k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Qb2d4dtUKaUBotan(87k peak, 369k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/qvmF2KxKZSQHer meme costume and reveal went viral and became a clip goldmine. She won in the end.
Rui chat is fast as fuck.
>>15695643>short streams>no videosthey will eventually get tired of that attitude and realize it wasn't worth the payment
Not directly related to numbers, but anons in previous thread were discussing Irys's debuff design and how it can be fixed.Well, the real answer is the nose. Usually redjuice draws the nose lower and with a top-down lite and it looks fairly appealing. However, this time he decided to draw it in the middle of the face and with this side lighting for some strange reason. I have no idea why. But it basically can't be fixed unless they redraw and re-rig her face.Honestly, redjuice is an amazing artist and a perfect choice for a 3d-focused chuuba. Irys's 3d model should look pretty impressive, but you can't deny that he fucked up her life 2d and it's a massive debuff.
>>15695856Redjuice is a hack.
>>15695856that looks even weirder
>15695663>Brining up the reclining months after the cull while replying to an anon talking about inclining months before the cull
Hoshikawa and Mel have been going at it back and forth for a while now.
>>15695833For a 2k views this shit is fast lol.
>>15695958realistic is probably around 3-4k range
>>15695958Does any site scrape how many unique people have made a comment?
>>15695670It's kind of the opposite, isn't it? People only watch Nijisanji for whatever spectacle is going on, and they don't really watch the talents or really care about who is even there.
>>15696010https://holo.poi.cat/stream/F-gIqNKf_08Tracks statistics for live chat, but I think Hololyzer has the count of unique chatters.
>>15696010There was one anon last night
>>15696010HoloStats doeshttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/F-gIqNKf_08make sure you set a time interval, "Fit" is meaningless
>>15695926Reminds me of Haachama and Matsuri before EN happens
>>15696010That's not gonna tell you anything about ccv
>>15696010Hololive: holostat, hololyzer.Nijisanji: 2434rankings
How can Gwelu be below a fucking NijiKR? This doesn't look right. Pretty sure it's his lowest number ever.
>>15695837>it wasn't worth the paymentPaypigs already left herDespite her big monetization debut, Koyori actually scored more for total amount in DecemberAnd got more for the outfit reveal, almost 2x as much
>>15695598At least a good third of Chloe hours are reading superchats, though ?
>>15696010Oh yeah, if you want unique counts then Hololyzer scraps unique chatters but only after the stream is over, for example:https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/channel/UCs9_O1tRPMQTHQ-N_L6FU2g.htmlBut since people can join and leave it's pretty meaningless to compare to CCV.
>>15696148any of these events just hurt most of the talents numebrwise unless they are top dogs. is just how niji build is event culture
Nijipoker is inclining and hit 43k so maybe it has a chance at 60k afterall.Mito 2 hours in and still below 7k.Lamy with 7.5k doing part ? of a shiny hunt is pretty normal and Lui with 2.2k pokemon is pretty normal too.
>>15696158Laplus is on the record saying she doesn't want gachikoi and wants to be a content creator, not a superchat succubus like Chloe and Koyori. I can respect that. On the other hand considering the number of direct interactions she does with her fans on twitter and the frequency of her intimate zatsudans I think she's still generating a decent number of gachikoi. She's definitely a very lovable brat.
>>15696246>content creatorthat's the thing anon. it's been so long since her valo upload. compare that to Pmaru who's likely her idol. but am guessing Pmaru has animators and she only voice it
>>15695650Kronii also spent a big amount of time playing MC and not streaming it.Kind of nuts to see how much streams Bae has been pumping out compared to her genmates. Too bad theres no real correlation between effort and reward but I respect the rat for still keeping up the grind until now.
Every time I see this stupid thread I think of Fesh Pince
>>15696223Luna and noel startingLuna had 1.2 waiting romNoel had 2.3k waiting room
>>15695663>>15695585Reffering to this I guess. >>15688556>Gura was not inclining>Her debut month (September) had an average ccv of 43k>October was 45k>November was 46k>On average ENs were hit by about 37%, JPs were hit by about 25% iirc according to graphanon
>>15696297Bae crosses the line into being too loud and obnoxious too often. She's going down the Ollie road. No amount of grinding will help her as long as she keeps her streaming personality Kiara-lite.
>>15696337>loud and obnoxiousthat gasp when laughing, when will that shit end
>>15696416That and her screaming "NO!" at the top of her lungs trying to be funny are the two worst things about her.
>>15696297>Kronii also spent a big amount of time playing MC and not streaming it.This was honestly the most retarded thing any member of HoloEN ever did. Why didn't her manager told her to stream it? Does she even have a manager?
>>15696334Gura's median was lower than 40k in November and she was on a consistent decline even AFTER the cull. She was reclining in December no matter how you cut it.
Are you okay with Susan fucking you up in the ass every year anon?Are you satisfied with this way of life?
>>15696497Stop spouting shit, and do daily trend from debut to december 2020
>>15696337Bae and Ollie are quite different despite both being loud and hyper, because Ollie actually feels naturally high energy whereas it's super obvious Bae is playing it up for the stream.It feels fake and extra obnoxious when she over-reacts to nothing just becauseshe thinks she needs to kayfabe.I wouldn't be surprised if chill, collab Bae is more popular than Adderall, over-reactionary solo stream Bae.
>>15696489Kronii used to doodle on her tests and hand them in without answering a single question because she figured she'd just fail anyway. That's the kind of person she is. She'd rather piss away her opportunities and reason that it would've ended up like this either way.
>>15696578No she was like this in her past life too. She's your typical 2nd gen asian immigrant Australian zoomer.
>>15696578This. But also, her style of exaggerated reaction does appeal to an audience, it's just that this audience doesn't usually watch Vtubers.
>Noel karaoke is stalling at 2.3k 13 mins in>In her last normal karaoke, she was at 8k already at this timeOh god Towa is fucked tomorrow.https://holo.poi.cat/stream/7qy4y-lJxlwhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/EKNxh9E397M
>>15696748She announced a bunch of guests, she should at least beat Watame. I'd say, 40k is possible.
>Nijisanji can't get a medal unless it's a tourneykek
>>15696748is such a weird effect but also looks that is ficused on japan time imothis stream is growing less than her pokemon one.>>15696822i wouldnt be that confident, these are some serious drops on CCV and growth
>>15696748Why susan attacking her so hard man? Because of her big ol bities?
>>15696068That's just the number of messages not the unique chatters
>>15696880She's actually struggling to break 3000 with a karaoke after 20 minutes.Absolutely ridiculous lol.
>>15696847nigger, who cares about 'medals'. CCV doesn't matter anymore.
>>15696911Yeah my bad as I said here >>15696205 hololyzer is what you want for uniques, but it only shows post-stream.
>>15696896the participants on christmas relay were primarily affected, coincidentally
>>15696918> when everyone gets affected by the so called cull and salty fucks say it still doesn't count cuz they can't accept being moggedsalty tears.... my favorite delicacy.
>>15696748What was her waiting room's number?
>>15696847Who the fuck cares about medals when fuckery like Noel reclining already at 3200 for a karaoke is happening?
>>15696929Also I wonder does hololyzer count the chatters that sent a message before the stream went live? Seems like that 2434rankings bot does for niji so if hololyzer doesn't it won't make for a good comparison
Stop caring about subscriber numbers you fucking weird, vapid bitches.
>>156969852.5k
Isegye inclining!
>>15697030No
>>15697046lol I was about to post this. a lot of comments too, very rare
>>15697030Hey, at least it's a real number after the pre-debut culls
Can someone explain to me why chuubas who are the farthest from being "genuine" rack up the most SC?
>>15697300no one wants "real" girls
>>15697300Japs are dirty pigs who like being abused and manipulated
Luna got 2k, her usual number is 2-3k.
>>15697300You could say kson is pretty genuine and she racks up a lot of money.
EN Ochame Kinou on track to 1M before 2 days
>>15697372No it's not
>>15697372Noel is still stuck at 4.2k after 30 mins,The worse sign is that she's not just inclining very slowly, she's going backwards sometimes.We're probably going to see a sub-20k Suisei karaoke soon at this rate.
>>15697300I dont think anyone watches chubas for their "realness".
>>15697372maybe after the 27th it wil be but she is capable of getting 3k-4k average this is way below her usual.
>>15697046August should be a good beginning capture. it was september when they released the Ochame cover and inclined on twitch
Here's some funny shit :Iroha's Christmas Eve utawaku :https://holo.poi.cat/stream/5-XGvRdHuEUhttps://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/video/5-XGvRdHuEU.html11,488 peak, reached on 27 mins markAverage of 4 chats per second2,460unique chatters137,210 VOD viewsIroha's New Year utawaku :https://holo.poi.cat/stream/_7WYpgjIoxMhttps://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/video/_7WYpgjIoxM.html11,418 peak, reached on 56 mins markAverage of 12 chats per second4,337 unique chatters221,218 VOD views
>>156974345k is the new 10k.
>>15697486Working as intended. Need to check 3 times to make sure you weebs aren't bots. Wait you posted nothing but clapping emojis during this stream, so you must be a spambot!- Susan
>>15697300>farthest from being "genuinewow, at least watch Rushia. we pay what entertains us
>>15697372she had sub 2k yesterday for her new year stream, the lowest all year iirc
>>15697300>Why do chuubas who play the part of an idealized anime girl get more money than ones who act like your common western roastieTruly a mystery. Kiara is the only outlier here since she not only acts like a roastie but revels in it and somehow caught a fanbase of hardcore tumblr users
>>15697486the duration gives a good sense with the difference
>>15697300You pay for entertainment, not for genuineness.
>>15697486The cull is causing streams that are performing way above average due to little overlaps/new year buff etc. to be deemed "normal", when in reality every stream is getting culled
I wonder how much youtube going to cut next december?
>>15697486This is a good example. Keep it. The difference between CCV and Duration isn't far but the VOD difference is pretty large. The one with the bigger VOD views should be the christmas one, but the NY one takes it.
>>15697667???%, because there's still not enough info about how much percentage of viewers are being culled this time, so that might be what happens in the next year too
>>15697667>now you can enjoy virtual numbers for virtual youtubers!
>>15697300You can at least name names instead of being snide.
>>15697486Thank Iroha for doing 2 1 hour karaokes on the dot to make the comparison easier too
>>15697667Number is all bullshit anon, if a company want high number youtube will give em look at nintendo direct.
So are ENs affected or what?On one hand Gura got a bare 34k on her end of relay karaoke whereas she usually gets close with a normal one, on the other hand she was overlapped by Chloe, out of her time slot, and honestly who the fuck watched Chuubas during NYE.
>>15697300>top SC in the whole platform, real streamers can't even get close>sell all of the goods in both, virtual and physical environments, including those what are restricted to 1 item per person>huge lines to buy stuff on the biggest events in japan>sell out tickets for concerts in minutes, they even have to do lottery to be fair to everyone because the demand is bigger than their supply>sell everything on sponsored events on a variety of mediums, from bookstores to restaurants/coffee shops>trending on twitter with ease and very frecuently >unofficial FB, reddit and Discord groups with thousands of people posting and discussing content live>fastest boards on the basket weaving forum>some people live just by leeching on by-products of their popularity (aka, making clips or any kind of fan content like games)>thousands of artists on multiple platforms spawning as much art as the top grossing franchises >top the charts on music platforms along with the ultra popular singers/bandsnah, all bots
>>15697737Gura had a 600k VOD the moment she ended and her stream was 4 hours and never got past 24k.It also ended with 41k likes. What do you think?
I’ve seen people mentioning big Nijis getting culled, but is there evidence of any mid-tier ones experience it?
Youtube is so insanely biased against vtubers it's not even funny at this point. They won't even give them main page exposure. "Oh what's that X holo is playing minecraft to 20k people? Naaah watch this 3k spic instead"
>>15697667enough so they can be normalized to regular streamers
>>15697776you could say that they are all me
Did you reply to the wrong post?Also, the only real metric left for a chuuba's popularity is their amount of fanart or amount of fan artists. You can't fake that with botsBut no one wants to numberfag it because Gura dominates it. Every metric Gura dominates in is labelled as worthless by this schizo thread.
>>15697790I think that's pretty normal by the old cull whereas the JPs seem to be in the utter dumps.
>>15697802Youtube fears 2d women.
>>15697821Who cares anon. Literally everyone knows Gura is the top vtuber, it was only this thread that ever obsessed over CCV. Think about the utter madness of claiming Kuzuha is the more popular vtuber.
>>15697830My bad, I read too quickly.Doesn't seem like ENs are affected by the new cull. Same old fuckery like waiting room being the peak during times of overlap.
>>15697796Niji don't have mid tier. Only top and low.
>>15697737ENs are having real trouble regaining their waiting rooms, when usually their max CCV would be at least 150% of the waiting room
>>15697873Ok fine. Low-tier then
>>15697497Noel 5k get. See 5k is the new 10k.
>>15696497According to holopoi:Mario Kart 8 delux collab w/ Kiara pre-2020 cull22k average ccv, 27k peak ccv340k vod views 1 year agoMario Kart 8 delux collab w/ shion post 2020 cull13k average ccv, 15k peak ccv340k vod views2 months agoMario Kart 8 delux collab w/ mori post-2020 cull19k average ccv, 23k peak ccv480k vod views11 months agoAll of them are about an hour long so there are no major diacrepancies, I could've addes the Fauna collab but that was 2 hours and a halfAlso keep in mind that the mori collab has a very popular JP clip that has about 2.5 million views which could have inflated the vod countNotice how pre cull has the highest ccv numbers but the worst vod views out of the bunch
>>15697776the Gura fanserver on discord has 22k online users RIGHT NOWthe Ame fanserver has 15.5k online users tooand they are not even streaming, you should need to see them explode when they post a schedule or their bots post the wait room for an upcoming stream
https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1477263861401145349https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1476796779882594305https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1476115826218614784https://www.moguravr.com/reader-questionnaire-2021-vtuber/holobros????
>>15697901Lain now 2 view. Mito struggle to get 10k.
>>15697830This isn't a new cull, is just JP getting the patch that hit EN last year so they're now on equal playing fields
>>15697658i think live views queue is degrading already so it is taking far longer to get process the real time viewers and causing desynchs probably my guess is since holos get tourists more often is now taking a lot of time .Niji Events right now are double the size than they were last year so is hard to measure maimoto mahjong will have double the participation for example. But indivusal streamers do seem lower like we saw with kuzu,toya and kanae before and now mito.
>>15697887Hmm but these were short streams during the relay. I looked at Kiara/Ina's numbers for MK and they seemed to be their averages.
>>15697972JPGotCulledAtDec 2020AsWell
>>15697972JP was already affected by the previous cull. They were just inclining at the time while EN was reclining. They were on an even playing field for all 2021. This has been pointed out to you over 10 times now.
>>15697930
>>15697941>https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1476115826218614784>niji internbeen that way since mid 2021 anon>>15697941>https://www.moguravr.com/reader-questionnaire-2021-vtuber/remember the VTuber Music Awards? online voting system that holobox isn't even aware of
>>15698033>Joining fan discordsDisgusting
>>15698033Anon what is this intended to prove? Being online in a discord just means being online on discord. It doesn't mean you're an active viewer of every stream.
>>15698033interesting to know how many overlaps there are from Gura's server with the rest of Myth
>>15698003>>15698029>no proof JP got culled in 2020>no proof EN is reclining>every proof they inclined and should get at least double or more their current viewershipSee >>15698033
>>15698033>joined
>>15697963Lain was already reclining before this. Mito’s struggling because of multiple POVs and poker isn’t popular in Japan. They did a poll asking how many people knew poker and 46% didn’t know
>>15698088The number of members joined is the floor for the actual viewership of of Myth.
>discordholy shit the cull really fuck numberfags sideways
>>15697667Enough to kill the gains in 2022. Youtube wants vtubers to be under 20k ccv so the top performers are real soijack face streamers in their youtube rewind
>>15698043I honestly think niji pays them to shill because I never see them post about jun and hes the biggest streamer in Japan.
>>15698092>Implying the number of people idling in a discord channel means anything
Can't wait to see the VOD views of this Noel karaoke to see if she had her first karaoke flop in more than a year.Her pokemon stream before was pretty normal, but this one is getting fucked up the ass.
>>15697984Here's Kronii's most recent two unarchived karaoke streams, one before the 'cull' and one after the 'cull', both got similar numbers.https://vrabi.ml/video/F0eLAsevLqcWaiting room is 11.6k and it takes her 13 minutes to recoup that and incline far past ithttps://vrabi.ml/video/ItIBVOyvZGkWaiting room is 17.6k and it takes her 40 minutes to recoup that, basically flatlines after that point. It's not normal. And it's not like her numbers were being funneled elsewhere either, she was uncontested apart from Sana playing Animal Crossing to 1k people.
>15698129I advocate that the ENs got hit harder in the first cull but you actually can't be this retarded right?
>Lamy doing a what amounts to a zatsudan while casually fishing>Mito playing an actual gameRather rare for Mito to not be at 1k-2k higher than her current numbers.
Ochame Kinou - hololive English Cover813k views after 24 hours mark.
>>15698120>Mito’s struggling because of multiple POVs and poker isn’t popular in Japan.> Doesn't even know Mito is playing Judgement and not PokerAt least look up vrabi. The Poker POVs are all 1-2k at most.
>>15698170Is her chat frozen?
>>15698092It has been posted plenty of times, you just deliberately ignore them until you start yet another loop for newfags and tourists to bite.How many times have you been btfo already? Are you really, unironically, using fucking Discord online members as the base for YOUTUBE viewership?
Fuck you SusanMy indie was breaking personal CCV records every month, before thisShe's supposed to be at 400 viewers nowFuck youAnd it's bad because it's the metric she cares instead of subs like other indies
>>15698170the VOD numbers are shit too, the number of viewers increased but the graph for views declined
>>15698230even Lamy's
>>15698165Jun can be pretty controversial, think Pewdiepie but way more toxic. Do they post about Hikakin?
>>15698233Anon, he has been samefagging for the ENTIRE FUCKING YEAR, HE DOESNT GIVE A SHIT
>>15698230Yes lol, it's frozen on her stream too.
>>15697802this is the bigger debuff than CCV culling. imagine having twitch's top channels page
>>15698254you need to wait some hours for those
The stream numbers just look normal now because of new year and sunday buff. All niji/holo streams are affected and not some random nonsense
>>15698280yes, that's why I said they are shit
>>15698244>his oshi is a ccv schizoSusan is just helping her take her meds, anon.
>>15697300Kiara
>>15698257Now's it flooding, perfect time to record unique users. looks like they updated and rebooted the chat
>>15698254Ongoing VOD views are far from reliable, but it could be her first karaoke flop in months.Feels fishy because she literally got 13k doing the same thing last week and the week before and she has even less competition now.
>>15698168Towa hasn't streamed for almost a week now and there's 6k online according to the invite link right now.Using Discord as a base is a new low.
this sitehttps://holodex.net/was down for a few minuteshttps://twitter.com/holodex/status/1477539109761519617?s=20the site came back and noel stream froze for a bitis this related?
>>15698303Being able to get more live viewers as an indie means she can attract and keep more people = she's entertainingSubs are meaningless
>>15698216its her 4th playthrough tbf1st 9pm2nd 8pm3rd 9:15pm4th 2pm
It looks like Kanauru has gradually been adding NijiEN to his Hololive stuff. I think we might see the biggest stealth marketer in Hololive fandom.
>>15698272Vtuber are part of anime culture. Anime is niche but have strong loyal fans. Twitch streamers and youtubers come and go. Youtube ain't never going to beat anime unless they ban them.
>>15698373artists only want clout, they don't care about who gives it to themstop pandering to them and they will swap fanbase without looking back
>>15698228Ok I’ll admit it’s my fault for just assuming it’s poker. I just want to know if low-tier Nijis have been affected, and I wouldn’t call Mito “low-tier” just because she isn’t Kuzuha-sized
>>15698365>subs are meaninglessHow many times does reality have to teach you this lesson, anon? Not only were you always wrong, but you're like, quadruple wrong now with the new cull.
>>15698033are these general fan servers or members only fan servers?
I just realize miko and korone are going to speedrun contents and collabs later. All the streams generally look like they can get a gold medal on their own.
>>15698339nah, holodex was forzen becasue ssl certificate issues>>15698369it is saturday so it isnt THAT much of a debuff for the timeslot and has plateud already.
>>15698259Always
>>15698339Probably the same time as when comments were frozenSomething is definitely happening
>>15698419It's all going to be in two streams, you dope.
>>15698414General fan servers, they have rooms for members only but you have to show your membership proof.
>>15698414general fan servers, but also work for members streams but you need the role of a member to access the members only channels and if you were membered to mori before she changed her tier system, specify which tier you were
>>15698428came back at the exact moment noel's chat froze
>>15698430Then there you go, it's an image thing. They're not being paid to shill Niji, they just think Niji is a better fit for their image in Japan.
>>15698428>saturdaySunday afternoon in Japan but you're right, not that much of a debuff timeslot considering most Japanese are also relaxing at home during the NY holidays.
>>15698475HoloDex return suddenly slamming YT's chat servers?
>>15698233Looking at this EN were in terminal recline by December. ALL of EN have consistently dropping numbers AFTER the cull while JP are steady or even regain them. This indicates that the change was that the cull was ON TOP of decreasing EN viewership and not that it hurt EN more for any nefarious reason.
>>15698404But Holo members also hire Kanauru for projects and stuff. Only recently where NijiEN members start being a little friendly to him that he is putting more of their stuff in his Holo vids as well. I would say Niji fandom is really good at subverting Holo fandom.
>>15698580All of EN were reclining before the cull besides Gura.
the next reference stream we have is watame mario kart, she has been doing the same challenge on the same timeslot pretty consistently and was suddenly cut in half two weeks ago (aka, on the 22 we started seeing discrepancies)it's in 40 minuteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkmRksIRhVU
>>15698580I think the EN is about to enter a massive depression, similar to when many EOP viewers of Kizuna Ai started leaving her during maybe 2018-2019 period. I think Hololove will live without EN or ID market, so I don't care too much.
>>15698623 Imo not a great choice since her MK training streams have been declining far before the new cull and hew new numbers aren't too different from her dropped numbers.It just takes much longer to get to the peak.
So it's fair to say that Youtube is deliberately targeting vtubers and trying to sabotage them, but why?
>>15698678The youtube HQ is in san bruno, California. take a trip down there and ask them yourself. Preferably with friends.
>>15698675nah, the chat activity was better in the latest ones despite having half of the ccv, posting proof in a sec, let me take a ss
>>15698678people are getting tired of the bullshit they're serving as "content" in the trending tab.
>>15698678Western tech companies don't like anime regardless of whether they're techbro or social justice in culture.
is fastest million mark anon here? is this going take 3rd place?
>>15698678If this is the case, what is the future of streaming Vtubers gonna be like?
>>15698762migrating to twitch with the exception of holo and nijisanji
>>15698675>peak viewers 3.8k>peak interval1.5k messages sent over 4 minutes
>>15698738That's slower than NijiEN4's song.
Everyone is getting terrible numbers in Niji poker, way under their average.
>>15698794>ads
>>15698419The schedule on hololive website is confusing. All the segments are in one big stream, split between Korone's channel for the first 12 hours and then on Miko's channel for the last 12 hours.
>>15698675>peak viewers8.7k>peak interval762 + 488 messages over 4 minutes (have to join 2 graphs because the scrapper splits them on 2 min intervals for this one)
>>15698783It's not like Twitch is any more of a safehaven. It's run by Amazon and is completely infiltrated from top to bottom by trannies. Japan desperately needs it's own streaming platform that isn't total dogshit like NND
>>15698794>814k in one day
>>15698831NTA but that's why>with the exception of holo and nijisanjiTwitch won't strike unless their favoured cliques are being entirely overshadowed and there's no chance of anyone not from the big two companies doing that.
>>15698788>>15698829Thanks. At this point, I'm just coping with VOD views to check if the girls have actually reclined lmao.So far tho, everyone is getting the pretty much the same as before.
>>15698829picked the wrong image, 762 -> 998both streams have the same volume of people in chat but the CCV is halved
>>15698804Because the game itself is a number poison. It's a miracle that main stream manages to maintain such high number.
>>15698861And NijiEN4's song got 937k after 24 hours. Your point?
>>15698931>And NijiEN4's song got 937k after 24 hours.https://playboard.co/en/video/W7SKtUCGYQk???Ads already disqualify it from mattering anyways.
Noel likes increased 1.5k but the viewers stay at 5k
>>156989765k is a new 10k
>>15698931It's a 1.1 mil now after 2 weeks. If it got 937k in 24 hours, that means in the next 2 weeks, it only got 200k. That's a horrendous drop off.
>>15698931>937k after 24 hoursFact check before spewing bullshit, retard244k views after a day lol >>15698931
>>15698976the ccv has been stuck for a while now like youtube has set a limiter on vtuber streams
>>15698931Why are you lying about numbers in the number thread ?
>>15698976She's been stalling at 5k for 30 mins now. I'm probably not counted since I'm typing this right now.
>>15698931posters like you are the reason why some anons say that nijifags cant numberfag for shit
>>15699022Classic nijikeks getting their source in their ass, disgusting LMAO
>>15698931>>15698961never trust a nijinigger
>>15699022you meant quoting this post right?>>15698961
>>15699078yes
>>15698931>>15698961nijiniggers cant numberfag shit, and spread liesholy damn gtfo niggers
Luna 3k get.
How do I even take what a nijinigger says seriously when they just keep throwing bullshit
When will they realize that MK and Pokemon are debuff games
>>15698931No wonder Nijiniggers get shit on here LMAO
>all these holobronies biting obvious bait
>>15699153When will you realize that only a handful of Holos actually cares about numbers to that extent
>i was pretending to be retarded
>>15699175>Lamy>not a numberfag
I don't care about numbers but here, have some eyecandy.
>Got called out>I-it's just a baitClassic nijiretard
I swear to god everyone in here needs to adopt a 2view to cure their numberrot.
>>15697941This explain why the cull is happening to hololive and not nijisanji.
>>15699197>it's just a falseflagging holobrony
>>15699190Amateur numberfag only numberfagging subs and SCs. I don't think a lot of chubbas actually numberfags CCV and VODs.
>>15699193This is now the most watched holo NY outfit stream after passing Coco's by 30k, eventho it only peaked at 39k.Sure thing, Susan.
Starting to wonder if Nijiniggers even have a functional brain
>>15699242>it's all holofags falseflagging as honest nijifags
>>15699253post numbers or make a bait thread
>>15699242So the usual. Make a retarded post pretending to be a njijfag and farm (you)s.
>>1569926745678980765435678297486324789944687907095746437856934634758394658364748393895678346564356209837589674805789476943765070946974852374678329057946095798564387535325327893565894379680
Y'know, comparing Koyori's Jump King upload to Mori's, isn't the former doing really badly for something that came out at the same time as the latter?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyPb3-8bLMYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz71VcCJnbg
>>15699407they need to learn to boxpush their own clips
>>156994071) Koyori isn't nearly as popular as Mori, in subcount or VOD views2) One is a compilation of her endurance stream that was filled with bad gameplay, while the other is Mori getting a top 450 time in the world.Mori's clip has more views than the VOD it came from.
>The shitposters were bitter chickenfagsI had my suspicions but it's nice to be vindicated>>15659292>>15659554>>15659415
ENTER KINGI doubt he's getting more than 10k on this.
I was checking playboard and none of the celebs picked by susan has streamed since NY? why?
>>15699533I think he should at least get 15k even if he is culled.It's a tournament afterall and I don't think the views on the main channel are that bad.It should tank the main POV pretty bad tho.If Kuzuha did get culled in his last 2 zatsus, I don't think it means he will be culled today.Pekora was culled pretty hard before, but I think her stream last night was fine.
Noel been reading SC for 10+ minutes but still had more than 50% of the viewers remaining
4.5k waiting room for Chloe, curious how this ends up. Typically I'd expect this to be an easy 10k but now I'm not so sure.
>>15699536it's weekend, and I hope they stream less and scam susan
725k SC at 1 minute mark.
>>15699699jesus fucking christ, the stinky buff is fucking real
>>15699699The fuck. When will her fans lose money?
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx_h5YZPqUm7bTIAIbTyhfxU1Zc7j_yeChOh and here I thought this week felt a little empty, so that's why
Fubuki seems untouched by the culling
>Kuzuha and Kanae's match>Main channel drops from 41k to 36kAt least some of our old predictions are still consistent.
>>15698660>I think the JP is about to enter a massive depression, similar to when many JOP viewers of Kizuna Ai started leaving her during maybe 2018-2019 period. I think Hololove will live without JP market, so I don't care too much.
>>15698738REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 10 hours (29m)KING (Gura and Mori) - 11 hours (36m)UNISON (Houshou Marine) - 39 hoursOff With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 45 hoursRoki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2 Days (17h 0m)
>>15699739This should be an easy 10k+ stream, potentially 15-20k. We'll see.
KING I KNEEL20k for King.
>>15699727who wouldn't fall in love with that god tier design and rigging
>>15699727Lamy and Rushia will begin eschewing bathing immediately. Stinky chuubas are the new meta
They're up, and how.
>>15699791>10 mins in already 10kI would say 30k at least
>>15699832Wdym its king kuzuha and its tournament its an easy 40k-50k.
What the fuck is wrong with Chloe's whales? She barely started the stream and there's already a long red line, including ¥40000 supers.
>>15699858I'm sorry
>>15699739No, gacha + collab and the pokemon incline should push her to 20k+ easy
>>15699875She's cute
>Fubuki/Mio 10k get>Kuzuha spending quite a bit of time in the 11-12k range
>>15699916her poke stream got also 15k while overlaping the new year. there is something different either in the audcine of fubuki or her channel.
well
>>15699988numbers of her waiting room before it started doko?
>>15699739>>15699770>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/J7a3ejSC1EwTrue, I remember the first one having weak growth. Now far stronger than the previous. Her new subs must be contributing
>>15700004koko
is poker that much of a debuff?king zatsu stream peaked faster than this
>>15699959There's no way her NY pokemon stream only got 15k anon lol.>1 month ago, 5:35:00, 756k views, 30.3k avg ccvhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/ceofO78NSrs>14 days ago, 5:48:00 , 745k views, 34.8k avg ccv https://holo.poi.cat/stream/zGl6PAd95uw>5 days ago, 5:32:00, 644k views, 24.5k avg ccvhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/GpPbQOl1ZRw>1 day ago, 5:38:00, 727k views, 11.2k avg ccvhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/V4el4I__TzUIt's more likely she got her normal numbers and just got culled.
>>15699988God damn poor Watame
>>15700005Wait fuck, it's a different horse racing LOOOOOL
>>15700005>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/J7a3ejSC1EwNo Anon, this stream isn't even close to what they're doing.They're doing a duo gacha new years banner stream, it's an easy 20k in the old days.The one you linked is some sponsorship to a horse racing club and they play some weird SAO horse racing game.
>>15699739anon, she's doing a horsepussy gacha stream collabing with Mio also pulling horsepussy gacha. This should be a 25k stream.
Pekora's numbers looked fairly normal yesterday maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel.
>>15700093Polka and Flare did a similar stream and got 20k. Now Fubuki/Mio with new year buff + pokemon influx is struggling for 15k. All these talk of "normal" stream numbers is simply garbage because of buffed streams
>>15700093sorry anon my mind was in the gutter
What do we expect for the MiKorone 24h stuff?
>>15700135>Polka and Flare did a similar stream and got 20k.Actually they did the same thing Fubuki and Mio are doing right now yesterday and got 10k.So.... yeah at least Fubuki/Mio got higher than them lol.https://holo.poi.cat/stream/0wMDOZdQFlA
>mid to low level holos reduced to 2views>high level holos still get good numbers just not hugeThe minnows..
Wtf bros he's already stalling. Susan stop nerfing the King you bitch!
>Kuzuha stalling at 14kHoly fuck this would make it 3 streams in a row, but let's see where he actually ends up first.
Are the numbers still culled or have we moved on from that cope already?
>>15699733entertainment for the rich
>watame lower than lunaJesas
>>15700032No he's just reclining
>>15700251jesas and luna is doing SC reading
>>15700127pekora also took time and she was playing DQ which is a buff on japane
>Kuzuha lost 3k in 2 mins and is still plummeting. 11k now>Watame still at 1.6k 22 mins in>Chloe still not at 10k 22 mins in for a 4.5k waiting roomSUSANNNNN
>>15700204He's already dead. Lain won.
>>15699193FUMIIN DONT LOOK
>>15700127I don't think it was normal since its New Year and DQ is wildly popular
feel the suffering of Myth
>>1570017620k maybe by the looks of things.
what's wrong nijibros, i thought you guys told me that your king would reach 20K easily yet he's struggling to reach it and i see you guys using the cull cope of the holofags, dont tell me you want to admit he's reclining?
>>15700230Come on king...>S tier15k>A tier10k>B tier5k>C tier3k>D tier1k
>>15699807>has never wiped her asswtf source
Susan capping ppl number is a new low.
>>15700127No anon it doesn't look normal. Ill compare it to her last judge eyes stream Judge eyesDuration : 7:15:42CCV : 25,320 / 33,404Views : 505,990 viewsDragon QuestDuration : 7:01:46Ccv : 19,672 / 23,596Views : 567,986 views
>>15700365nip nijiniggers are probably not yet convinced
>>15700392cope holo/nijifag, your chuubas are reclining while vshojo is inclining, kneel before your new queens of vtubing
>>15700401How is Judgment actually? Game wise
>>15700416good, faily popular in japan but not to the elvel of DQ
>>15700414that's Nimu
>>15700392This sounds so stupid, but I seriously believe it to some extent.Fubuki's number has been moving up and down by double digits in the past few minutes.With a stream with this many people, it should be triple digits every update.Noel was hammering at that 5k wall for 45 minutes and only grazed it.
>>15700377Oddman 11
Roberu now a 700 views fuck you youtube.
https://vrabi.ml/video/ltsWv1EHVm410k wiating room
>Rushia and Iroha Playhouse 51 - 10k waiting roomThere's no way right?
>>157005183.7K watching
>>15700401Judgement stream has 10k more ccv and its already 2 months old The fact that it got beaten by DQ with 23k peak and less duration within a day means something is wrong with the numbers.
>>15700518According to youtube system you don't exist.
>>15700540rapidly risingalso in other news Asano Akane indefinite hiatus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lgw9Tbkfbc
>>15700518They won't reach their waiting room numbers. This should be a 20k stream
Watame just hit 2k after 30 mins
>>15700571>20kdefinitely
>>15700503>>15700518I mean, you gotta give these things time. Over the course of 2021 it's taken about 10 minutes to hit wait room numbers. Obviously shit's fucked but stop posting about wait room problems so soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE_hFAH_Y5o&t=35sSo usually the non-holo focused videos really underperform on Kanauru's channel, but this one does at least have holos in it, and they are presented in a pretty favorable light compared to the others
>>15700575Another victim banished to the Sana realm by Susan
>Chloe dropping after hitting 8k>On fucking GoIWhat is happening
>>15700648SUSAAAAAN STOP FUCKING WITH MY OSHIS NUMBERS
>>15700648Overlapping Rushia and Samurai
>>15700648>More likes than peak now in just 37 minutes.This is some insane speed kek. Even faster than some ENs.
Korone 7,4k waiting
>>15700617nigga they USED to hit waiting room in 5min and grow faster. They growing this slow and stalling is new.>>15700648Overlap.so right now for ovelapping it seems to have a big problem as youtube has not tourble discounting those who leave but i dont think is counting accurately those who come in.
Oh god vtuber that gets 10k will be rare in 2022.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67S5K8aLTWYShe usually got 10k+, let's see
I've been off this thread for a while what's up with the cull again? Who's spreading this stupid rrat again?
>>15700648youtube has determined that the limit for this stream is 8k
>rushia collab with 10k waiting room has about the same viewers as chloe with 4.5k waiting roomFUCK OFF SUSAN
>>15700703>who's spreading this stupid rrat again?nene
What went wrong to your JP numbers, ENschizo? Deadsubs?
>>15700703>Who's spreading this stupid rrat again?youtube is
My theory is right they capping ppl now. This is your celling deal with it.
>>15700634Kanauru is pretty much the unofficial marketer of NijiEN at this point. NijiEN and Vshojo have been getting friendly with him so expect more of them in future vids. This feels a lot similar to smol Ame (not the game, but the character artist) creator situation.
>>15700634>popped out in recommendationi already blocked his channel
This is cull af Rushia and Nin nin collab should be 15K+ now wtf susan
I was suspecting Rushia might have been a cull victim since her VODs have been massive recently despite deteriorating CCV so I went back to her Granny Simulator collab with Laplus>26k peak, 1 hour stream, 387k VOD viewsThat's fucking massive for a 1 hour, sub-30k peak streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6iloMoghtsExtra:>18k peak, 1:33:47 duration ASMR stream, 3 weeks ago> 1 mil viewshttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/IpjcloaTUJUWTF is Rushia inclining? ASMRs do well over time, but 1 mil in only 3 weeks?
>>15700401The fuck is this, SUSAAAAAAAAAAN
*Another* million yen for Chloe, and this is just 45 minutes in, she's going to beat the game today for sure and get another rush
Took 15 fucking minutes, but they beat the waiting room guys!!!
>>15700401Dragon quest is far more popular. That stream should be 30k at least
>>15700802everyone's been getting friendly with him ever since he was commissioned for the Myth or Treat video
>>15700401damn very blatant here
>>15700842Fuck YouTube man. This shit is hurting my numbers heart.
>>15700825their incline has been hidden by the cull at this point, mistakenly pointed as normal numbers by some anon
>>15700882FBK and Mio ended the stream that's why
Watame always had a core loyal fanbase of 4-5k that would watch the 8-hour long superchat reading streams, and now youtube is telling me only 2.6k is watching Watame right now
In other news... King surpassed Pakora's Sans VOD despite peaking 9k lower than her in a regular zatsu. He's clearly getting culled harder than her if such a cull is in place.
>>15701025Smoge>12k waiting with 5 minutesIn 2021, this would be a guaranteed 40k+ stream. But I have no confidence now.
>last samurais panickingFucking love to see it
>>15701025tbf her main battle ground is midnightshe probably pulls in tourists during that slot as wellsince no one else streams during that time frameI was one
How many viewers are Rushia and Iroha going to lose in 2 minutes?
>>15700889I wonder why, it's like they always have to leech off of every fan artist who gets high numbers from Hololive. I'm surprised big ones like 2snack and Dudul are courted. At least they got Kanauru and Walfie now.
>>157010812 hours vs 2.5 hours
>>157011323k at least
>>157011469k lower peak plus he doesn't have the novelty of beating Sans for the first time, not an argument.
>>15701137There’s a huge difference in content between actual hand drawn animation and the 3D shorts or illustrations the latter provide. The former requires weeks/months to produce and tends to be passion projects. The latter can be banged out relatively quickly. Either is a huge boost for a portfolio l
Niji jops believing the cull now
>>15701137well, i didn't just mean other companies. Kiara commissioned him for a flurry of videos recently too, and he had... some kind of haachama collab? no idea if that was from haachama or him first.
Pretty good
>>15701190thread link?
>>15701190This is dumb. I mean there’s obviously an issue. Niji and cover should be uniting against their common enemy:Susan. But as always YouTube doesn’t really give a shit. Wonder if simulcasting or streaming Twitch with YouTube archives would be a viable option?
>>15701190>bugOh the naivety...
>1m for a normal GOI stream>It's not even her first time playing>She didn't even beat her personal recordHow?
>>15701190Ironically, they think Myth has normal numbers...
>20k waiting>suddenly dropped to 5k when the stream startedfuck this shit
We can't make lugwig look bad.
>>15701081>2 hr vs 2.5 hrs>Pekora only peaked to 26k for the brief moment she beat Sans, for most of the stream she below 20k.>Average CCV: 17k, same as Kuzuha's stream average.https://holo.poi.cat/stream/lg2b9GDLPEAhttps://playboard.co/en/video/dXQl_Pvu-oMBoth got culled too, no one denies it.
>>15701081pekora had a higer peak beating sans but had a lower average a belive she was on average 17-18kstill the point stands.eitherr all of jpaan have become vod watchers from night to day or some viewers are not being counted.
Has any of you thought of a possibility that vtuber industry is in decline instead of spouting culling nonsense?
>>15701087Fuck Susan for culling this fucking kino
>>15701190Cope,There is no culling, nijiniggers Your king is just declining
It's a feature not a bug. Get over it.
>>15701190JP fags:>n-no there's no cull EN is just reclingNiji fags:>n-no there's no cull JP is just recliningVshojo fags:>nope, no bug, youtubers are just reclining
>>15701326>suddenly there's a cull>after denying it for all of 2021the absolute state of jpniggers
>>15701288he's falling, now what? cap the chuubas lower you bitch?
>>15701347Keep memory-holing that Dec 2020 cull, faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvZH7Fh4JqUChoco is doing a totsu right now and has La+ on the line.To less than 1k viewers.
>>15701319No. It doesn't happen overnight
>At 17000>We already know for a fact there's at least 20k people watching already>Update: +200Nothing personal, just gotta triple and quadruple check to see if you weebs are bots.
Rushia's stream should've been at least 25k like the collab with Laplus. It's harstuck at 15k instead.
>>15701120She has already done 9 streams at the same timeslot
>>15701376Stop whining about the JP cull when you never stood up for EN when it happened last samurai, things are just fair now
>>15701439This is actually doing fine to recover so fast, this is how the waiting room cull has been working so far before Dec 2021
>>15701231http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/archives/13347377.html2k+ comments, seems to be a lot of discussion
>>15701466You've been btfo by everyone else for the bazillionth time already, have some shame and admit that you're wrong, cowboy
Chloe gained another 11k in sc's in today's stream btw
>>15701496Too bad the rest of the board agrees with me, fuck off back to /jp/
>>15701496anon, he has been going at it for all of the entire past year, you think he will stop anytime soon specially when you are giving him the (you)'s?
Mikkorone is getting the gold
>21k waiting >Stream started >Dropped to 5k watching Pajeetube everyone
>>15700401>only when susan obviously culled JP is /hlg2/ giving a shit about vod numbersThe absolute fucking state
>>15701560It should, but the question is at what number do they start capping it because this updating speed is slow as FUCK.Literally allowing in batches of 10 sometimes.
>>15701506
>>15701506and another 428 members, in an hour for a regular game stream. I'd say someone nerf this girl but she ALREADY being nerfed by being forced by her manager to read SCs with them turned off
>>15701479it's almost the same as this thread when we were talking about it yesterday, all the way including "180k = 300k" people like me and "polls are bugged" people
>>15701479it's the usual>they wanted Gura to end the stream and funnel>EN failed to recover the waiting room number>mamashark has normal voice>they initially thought it was nachoneko>disappointed with La+ for not teasing, linking and funneling to Lui, with point system>nijiniggers laughing we have yet to beat nijinoon program>holofags grudge posting thanks to Koyori>they love Koyori and Chloe's design & rigging, praising the artists>ecchi, atms>etc...
>>15701604>>15701611Chloe saw how pointless ccv were and decided to focus in the only useful metric
>>15701288>still makes ludwig look badWhat did she mean by this?
>>15700740Why post a gif when a single image suffices
>Stalling at 23k because youtube glitched out for a secondFUCK this site.
>>15701643simple, that gif is the OP of the thread after that infamous poll
>>15701567Let me help with some cope from the /jp/ book of bullshit, anon>v-vods don't matter, people open a video for 30 seconds then leave and that counts as a view, and yes this explains consistent VOD averages
>>15701560Are you really sure after yesterday's numbers?
>>15701677ah that's nostalgic
lmfao
>>1570156025k ceiling lmaooo
>>15701694Here's another classic>VODs don't matter for youtubers, they're streamers its all about CCV
You can see the exact moment Iofi called in.
>>15701722youtube doesnt have good analitics for streamingThe only thing it lets you see is the peak concurrents and numebr of chat messages.
>>15701742Reverse totsu, Choco's the one calling the others.
>>15701722This is unironically truet. Vshojo Twitch master race
>>15701699are there any numbers which can even be trusted at this point?
What were the numbers for the previous mikorone 24h?
Mikorone should've been over 30k ccv already at this point.
>>15701801This thread will refuse to trust the only reliable numbers because Gura wins those hands down
>>15692386Hey site link OP can you put https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-view-counter/in the pastebin. Relevant now more than ever.
>>15701801VOD views still look to be decently consistent after a 24 hour period, there are some culling here and there but not to the extent of CCVs
Come on Mikkorone, post a poll you know you want to
>>15701817This is their first time
YT wants to compete with Twitch but they tries to reduce CCV? Why though?
>>15701801SC.
>>15701819Stop coping, it's unseemly. Even chumbuds didn't whine as hard when Gura got her numbers slaughtered by Susan.
>>15701801https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.htmlcome stare at these numbers for a little bit, anon
>>15701855Because advertisers legit got angry too much of their money was going to anime girls
>>15701801Just hack YT HQ and get it directly from their server.
>>15701801Superchat, VODs, subs are all trustworthyBut oh what's this it appears that anons have made an entire thread called /#/ designed to talk 90% about CCV and argue about gold medals.
>>15701618>>15701621unfortunateI guess their thread setup doesn't lend itself to having generals like /#/?
Bye fags I'm gonna watch my dog and her baby for the next 24 hours.
>>15701846anon, no it isn't.
>>15701855For a more "REAL" viewership
>>15701846Newfag
>>15701833Gura wins SC numbers?
The thing that gets me mad is how fast the Niji main channel's viewers are validated.It would literally go up thousands per 10s whereas for Holostreams, we're getting 10-200 per update.Andddd looks like we're capped at 30k.
>>15701926Gura wins in general income if you add SCs + memberships + sponsorships
>>15701833Since when the fuck does Gura win superchats?
>>15701688well it's a 24 hour stream.If it gets capped in unexpected places we could also confirm the CCV capping theory in addition to the cull.
>>15701911SC them to do a poll plz
Come on Rushia end your fucking seiso stream
>>15701942>source: my ass
>>15701832This site reports 64k viewers and 42 dislikes for mikkorone. Where does it get those numbers?
>>15701942>>15701833Since when is income derived from memberships and sponsorship "reliable numbers"? You have no way to access this information
>Kuzuha failing to beat 15kHis openObg numbers used to be 15k. He used to get 15k even for Valorant.
>>15701910it's a mess. i try to read end of day
>>15701918Real viewership that is only 1/3 of what Twitch streamers get? Even JP streamers get better numbers on Twitch these days, YT streaming will be slowly dying at this rate.
>>15701972>50,000 membershipsExactly the last samurai behaviour I was talking about, this thread will refuse to use any numbers that show Gura ahead
>>15701984>64k viewersThose are VOD views, not viewers.
The good thing about number capping/stalling is that rushia and watame didn't lose a lot of views in short period of time to mikorone.
>>15701998According to our nijisisters, no culling
>30k get
>>15701998>openObgOpening
>>15701984>64k viewersIncorrect. That's 64k views, not CCV. As for what it says:>Everything is directly taken from official API Service provided by Social Networks. Every single count is updated every 2 seconds and is as accurate as possible.Not sure how that explains seeing dislikes after YT murdered them though.
>he's still tryingGo jerk off in your Discord server you oh love so much
>>15701998Reclining
>>15701984CTR+ Usearch viewcount
>>15701992Since she gets her numbers from bots, I doubt she gets big money.
>>15701998Cope, seethe, recline nijiniggerThere's no cullt.HoloEN
GUYS PLEASE DISABLE ADBLOCK/UBLOCK OR THE GIRLS WILL BECOME DEPRESSED!!!!
>>15702065AND REMOVE HOLODEX
>>15701998My tinfoil hat theory, only chuubas with over 1 mil subs get culled.>Korone, Miko, Pekora, Marine, Watame, Noel, Rushia, and ofc Kuzuha himself.He flew too high compared to his Niji peers so he gets culled now as well.WELCOME TO THE CLUB
>>15702094What about Kenmochi
>>15702065I have premium so I don't need ublock on YouTube
>>15702065don't think it matters at this point.If you're gonna go that far, best to make a new account since your existing one is likely already flagged as a "bot".
>>15701939both are facing the satlling the problem is that holos worlwide users are amking it harder to validate and have alwasy taken more time even befroe decemebr however they are taking now triple the time and stalling.At this point i think the persons in the waiting room are not totally being counted and missing in the process somehow.
>>15702094wasn't mito getting culled pretty clearly earlier
>>15702065Cover need to console the girls and learn to cope with this for the mean time
>>15701942General income? when pekora exist? Who have more views, sc and sponsorship. And honestly I think her membership is pretty close with gura's membership.
>>15702149>earlier more like now
I saw a top post on Holo reddit about viewership cull. This is even reaching that place despite many people there not liking to talk about numbers. This problem is getting bigger.
>>15701998his valorant would barely break 5k now lul
NIJI GOLD>NIJI GOLDNIJI GOLD >NIJI GOLD
>>15701832The dislike counter is heavily inaccurate, this site sucks
>>15702159This my favorite. Goddamn i'm salivating shark data
>>15702160Pekora membership already vastly surpassed Gura. Even Marine and Miko are passing as well. I think at best Gura only has about 8k-9k members while those 3 have above 10k.
>>15701950The real funny shit is going to be when they end the first 12 hours and move over to Miko's channel.
>>15702218yea, mikorone already peaked at 34k.. sad day holobros
>>15702106No cull, Kenmochi made a deal with the devil to win Dec 2021 after getting so close so many times.The Devil promised him the best median, but only if he streamed a certain number of streams and no more.On NYE, he was feeling lonely so he was like "What's the worst that could happen?" and fired up his stream to chat with his fans.And so, the Devil cursed him to lose to Ayame.So yeah, no cull, he just got cursed.>>15702149Mito actually reached 1 mil subs a while back, but being the lowkey leader of Niji who doesn't even have membership enabled, she purged her own subs to let Kuzuha get there first.Even now, she purges her subs daily to ensure Kanae gets to 1 mil before her too.
>>15702129https://youtu.be/RY_2gElt3SA?t=289Probably this happened but became much worse at validation recently and Hololive is worse because viewers are from many countries compared to Nijisanji
>>15702065Actually, i switched on adblock for the first time this month to watch some non vtuber videos and forgot to turn it off again. This is all my fault.
>>15702264Niji getting all the golds this January. Can't wait for more holocopes.
>>15702310NE KED DO GE ZA. NOW
>>15702247Anon I have no Idea what peko or marines membership numbers and I'm not here to disagree with that point but you are underselling Gura's membership numbers by a lot. In one of her recent member polls she had 13k respondents which is her absolute floor since not everybody votes on those and susan is a bitch for not notifying member shit on time
>>15702264anon its litteraly a 24/7 stream with several different things planed at different hours.shit will fluctuate
>>15701190How they did got this info for kuzuha, does niji have site for it?
>>15702357I'm nitpicking but 24/7? lol
https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1477574158997663750
>>15702329They didn't win yesterday anon.
>>15702218Honestly, if Niji continues to label regular collabs with their production seal, the mogging of Holos would be really frequent until they get the title back of undisputed best VTuber company.
>>15702370kek. in my defense i am recovering from the post new year hangover
>>15702368>>15702380
Daily Chloe update: Sakamata Chloe now has $317,200 in total superchats and just 23 days after her monetization is the 71st most superchatted vtuber ever. Today she surpassed>Takamiya Rion>Yuzuki Roa
>still talking about medal autism when CCV is fucked for everyoneThis shit doesn't matter anymore. Take your autism medication and stfu.
>>15702345Anon i'm not sure if you are falseflagging. I'm a chumbud, Gura likely has less members now due to infrequent streams. And holoJP will always be richer than EN because of sheer accessible merch & local sponsorships.Even Suisei is richer than Gura with that concert and album sales alone.
>>15702357on the contrary, their number will get hit as soon as other heavy hitter start their stream and or midnight-afternoon JST if they failed to beat nijis peak during the JST primetime, it's niji gold for today
>>1570234510k (I know he said above) is way off for everyone he mentioned. Not even worth responding to with how off his numbers are.
>>15702094>Only over 1 milExplain this >>15697486Mito also peaked at only 7.3k earlier
>>15702416oh nononono
>>15702404I'm surprised Roa was so high
Niji Poker right before Kuzuha put his frame up.
>>15702416>CCV doesn't matter now that JP gets hit>mattered when it was only EN sufferingCan't make this shit up kek
>>15702094Explain Chloe's 38k outfit reveal beating Kanata's and Botan's 80k+ outfit reveals in vod views.
>>15702510Rewatch value because she's pure SEX
>>15702490Kuzuha giveth Nijsanji the gold, and Kuzuha taketh Nijisanji the gold.
>>15702490is this the number to beat today?
>>15702534>outfit reveal>rewatch value kek
>>15702510All me from checking to update the list of HoloX vs last year's VOD views.
>>1570255743k a little prior to that
>>15702557No, it's 43.7kNijipoker is later in the tournament now, but it's all unpopular people left so I think people are less interested.
>>15702562You would know if you watched streams
>>15702484Roa was a powerful earner back in her prime, if she never left she'd be much higher today. If she does end up coming back the comeback stream is going to get some absolutely ridiculous SCs.
>>15702484cunny money
Guys listen to beThe culling depend on the ratio of EOP and JOPYoutube culled EOP views last yearHoloEN has much more EOP views than JOP so they got hit really hardThis time Youtube culled JOP viewsHoloJP has much more JOP views than EOPso they got hit really hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjszbB8loWk*beats Gen 6 outfit reveals*
This may be it, it’s the top of the hour and if went back a little
>>15702676Nothing's even started until now.
>>15702676Watch streams
>>15702669How are the Holostars doing then? Isn’t most of their audience EOPs
>>15702687>>15702690>Watch streamsAnd give up my wizard powers?
Hang in there, rrat.
>>15702674Patra's outfit reveals don't even get half of her ASMR numbers
>>15702631And Meiro was the fastest to 100k subs before edengumi came along and might have been the fastest to 200k if Nijisanji management was competent
>>15702676You are an amateur numberfag, and lack the context as to what they're going to even be doing you absolute scrub.Please use your brain for a little bit and realize what they'll be doing, and thus why your statement is not only foolish, it's outright idiotic.
New rrat. Youtube has implemented a cull on all of Hololive and Nijisanji, except Nijisanji official, Riku having the forsight in investing in JewTubes whitelist program.
>>15702750how will Roa's return affect niji I wonder? I saw some anon said there are people in the company who sided with Meiro
>>15702420I am not falseflagging, I'm trying to convince you with real tangible numbers and not what you voices in your head is telling you. Her RE village poll 7 months ago had 13k respondents and 2.8k likes, her scout poll a month after has 14k respondents and 2.3k likes, her stream suggestion poll 4 months ago had 10k respondents and 2k likes, and her anime watchalong poll had 13k respondents and 2.7k likes. None of those polls went below 10k and again not everybody votes on these polls for their own reasons. We can also compare her superchat numbers to assume how many members she has. In 2021, she had $600k~ worth of supas which means that on average she made $50k~ per month on supas. I think it's fair to assume that people are more inclined to member than to throw a supa since you get extra goodies which means that she atleast probably matches her superchat revenue in terms of members which gives her atleast 10k at the very low end though this last point is bordering my rrats.
>>15702758No, I think even that got hit too. Normally, even as unpopular as poker is, I'd expect something like that to hit 50kish range, maybe mid 55k. The fact that it only hit 43k seems....low. Oddly so.
Fubuki on screen, chinks in chat. Like clockwork.
>>15702797The company's big enough that they can just avoid each other. Roa already didn't get along with certain other livers before the Meiro incident blew up.
>>15702676it had a short intermission
Korone turn on sub mode already jesus
40k get
>>15702821Based chinks giving the views
>Lize Costume reveal>That 3 min recover to waiting room numbersIt's just not fair broshttps://vrabi.ml/video/SNpDYLd2UJc
Chinks pushing view counts.
Chinks helping mikorone beat nijipoker.
>>15702859no, use the wheelbarrows to win the gold
>>15702821it's actually insane how dedicated they are. what if niji has been losing to Fubuki because of chinks?
>chinks are literally helping us to beat nijisBased
>40k getbut niji won't slip today!
>>15702899For comparison
Actual chink bots are not getting flagged as spam and is rapidly inclining the stream
Thank you zhang.
>>15702935what's niji's number to beat?
42k already, our gold nijisisters...
Youtube culls real viewers, counts chink bots. Brilliant system Susan.
>>157027261.4k waiting roomis recovering at a normal rate of today so 10min.it is also FUCING ANIMAL CORSSING from scratch overlapping mikorone.One other new susei started Mk with 4k waiting room. Right now at 2.7k and also growing slowly still 4k in 10min is given at least.On other news mikorone might take gold today.
>>15702797Most of them are supporting Roa. Even Gundou who is infamous for not getting along with Roa RT’d her last tweet
>>15702901>>15702905I swear to god if these chinkbots aren't blocked out as spambots and I am, I'm going to goto youtube HQ with some friends.
>>1570295543.7khttps://vrabi.ml/video/QEjZnPJGTXw
>>1570267642k now and climbing.Rushia ended tooI don't think it would have been an 84k stream, so guessing the cull restrictions are loosening up to the new viewers.Could be a case study as to how this all works.
>Coco helping her old colleagues from the grave
Bet you're regretting not listening to me now aintcha?
When Suisei is this low you know it's 100% broken.
If Mikkorone gets Gold it doesn't count cause chink bots increases viewers artificially.
They should have did this as the ny stream, much funnier and entertaining.
>>15703013Kek.
>>15702917If they were this committed to not being niggers maybe they could get somewhere.
>>15702972Everyone must suck on winnie the po's tiny membrane. Susan is on her knee's right now.
>Actual bots not getting flaggedAre we the bots all along?
>>15702985They basically have to now or they'd get dogpiled.
STOP THE COUNT
Gold today goes to hololive it seems, niji about to slip again.
>>15703032Holomember is better at organizing than their staff.
>>15703032NY stream was so basic because everyone was working on this stream.
>down to 40KWHAT THE FUCK SUSAN
>>15703053Susan just straight up YEET'd 3k people for no reason, WTF is that nonsense.
susan what the fuck was that even?
Susan?3k just dropped in a second, right before it was about to take the gold.
>>15702993the streams that got really badly beaten down by the cull were all pretty short, whereas the big ass niji event stream was a long onemaybe the ceiling for each individual stream gets pushed up after hitting some kind of threshhold?
>>15703053>Drops to 40k in 1s SUSANNNNNNN
Susan... Make it less obvious you're paid by nijisanji official..
Wtf 3k cull.
SUSAN'D
WHAT THE FUCK, SUSAN
YOUTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBEEEEEEEEEE
>>15703097Might just be the servers taking a long ass time to validate viewers
This annoys me greatly.
might be the chink bots getting culled.
>Mikkorone would've been a 2x12h 60k-80k+ stream had it not been for the cullPotentially a combined 1M watch hour in 1-2 day. Jerkfuel for numberchads for weeks
>>15703097I mean, if the theory that Youtube servers are taking too long to validate viewers, then it would make sense that longer stream would accurately reflect their live viewers compared to short 30 minutes or 1 hour stream that we are used to.
YoutubeJapan must be watching and pressed the kill switch
>>15703054it will not slip
*blocks your path to gold*
so chink bots actually got culled but they somehow can bypass the slow incline
>>15703129Probably is.
>>157031453k viewers got nuked for no reason
>>15703124RIGGED
kek literally 43.6kget fucked holobros
>>15703124>>15703124No Anon. The stream is still ongoing and is actually entertaining so it will surpass it definitely.
>>15703171But did they stop the spamming?
>>15703171Time to bot stream peaks
>>15703204not to mention it will go on for 12 hours and at 9pm it will attract even more "tourists"
>44kIt's over
>>15703202Oh no no no no
44k get, thanks zhangs
44k
ITS DONE
I wouldn't be surprised if bots had a way to bypass validation and get counted before getting validated, only to get axed when they fail validation, whereas normal viewers need to be validated before getting counted.Apparently that Ripple channel 5ch and matome were complaining about is botting normally again so bots work.
>>15703204Just did.Of course it was.My gods, this is way better than the NYE program. Like, I get why they did it the way they did, but man, this is night and day.
>>15703145what if it is the waiting room that is getting dropped?most if not all the streams would be in ther normal range if you add the waiting room.watame would havd its 4k, rushia her 25k, pekora her 30k with dq,etc.is a stretch but i think if you add the current waiting room to the begginign fo the curve the numebrs start normalizing so maybe is a lot of users from the waiting room dropping or not being counted. Tha being a reson why it plateus or why we feel it plateus earlier.
Nip nijiniggers are now panicking and will go watch the tourney
>>15703210No, still some there, I guess not all have been banned yet.
>>15703248is the poker stream ongoing or did it end already?
>>15703279you think they watch streams?
>>15693200>>15693528>>15693530>>15693379>>15693530>>15693765IT FUCKING SLIPPED AGAIN AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>15703248LMAO
Jfc
>>15703260That would be both insidious, disgusting, and actually make a fair amount of sense.That also sounds bugged AF.
you cannot stop the mikkorone
>>15703295Ongoing, but Kuzuha lost to Lain an hour ago so there's a high chance it won't even reach 43k again.
【マリカ8DX】#Däsupi でガチマリカ特訓‼【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】 12,893Suisei Mario Kart split with 2 others .Today she is 4.8kfuck this garbage shit website.
>>15703260I wouldn't be surprised if the waiting room numbers are a different system altogether and those viewers are completely discarded when the stream starts and the CCV system takes over and starts from the beginning.
>>15703307HAHHAHAHAHA
>>15703318Suisei "Gets 10k in her sleep" Hoshimachi struggling to get 5k...
Lize only 8k for outfit stream, yea i am not believing this shit.
>>15703344it would explain all the weird graphs of failing to reach waiting room numbers
Did people genuinely think that Mikorone wouldn't get gold today?
>>15703325I mean the waiting room has alwasy been buggy maybe after all this time and queue degradation it finally broke.I think the only wait to see if its true would be if a holo starts a stream without a waiting room.
>>15703341Watch the vod views be the fucking same, because of fucking course they will be.Like, I could accept it being a 7-8k stream, it's overlapping the mikorone stream rn, but failing to break 5k?When the hell was the last time SUISEI failed to break that on a gaming stream?
>>15703368she should at least get 15k given she's the most popular female niji, right?
>>15703384Nijisisters have been hyping the poker tournament weeks ago
>>15692592>31k. You can call it now>2) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 31k+ . Poker Tournament>>15692613>pretty sure this will hit 60k>>15693200>Niji gold huh today>>15693379>just prep your knees holobrosOH NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA>KNEELBROS, REGROUP!
>>15703368Wtf. What did her other outfit reveals get?
>>15703368kek, I know outfits aren't a superbuff for niji but they still get more than standard viewership. 8k is like 4k below Lize's median let alone what she should get for an outfit.
>>15703384They weren't in my mind, I thought they will start tomorrow
>>15703318susei reclined by susan to sub 5k vtuber...
>>15703384niji events alwasy get people but i DOUBT anyone expected 24 hrs of different shows and skecthesKorones is going back to the hospiotal after this
>>157033575k is the new 10k.
>>15703368I call bullshit, wtf YT.LIZE, of all people, even if it's Nijisanji, should be breaking 10k on a new outfit.
>>15703307Can I refund my kneel?
>>15703434>i DOUBT anyone expected 24 hrs of different shows and skecthesUh, it's not even the first time they're doing this.
>>15703307Naked dogeza now nijikeks
>>15703368Lize was at constant 10k+ isnt it
>>15703436Not reallyniji never break 10k on a outfit reveal
>>15703451Well anon, forgive them. Many, many, MANY people here didn't even start Watching holos until much after January last year.
any updates on this?
>>15703470>niji never break 10k on a outfit revealContender for most ignorant post of the thread, and there's a lot of stupid posts tonight.
>>15703465Yep im pretty sure without the cull she can atleast get 20k+ with a new outfit.
>Lize flatlining on 7.5kYeah, I’m calling bullshit on this.
>>15703470I could believe it if it was someone who averaged much lower, but not for Lize. Kuzuha's numbers have been pretty fucked too.
They took pekora off the hologra thumbnail
>>15703491Oh man, January is going to be SO FUCKED.
Niji Poker tournament real number was 80k. Mikorone wasn't culled. You can just claim anything you want with how CCV works now.
>>15703540now THIS is good bait
>>15703491
>>15703540For example:Lize, Kuzuha, Mito, Gwelu, Toya... did Niji lose a third of their viewers overnight?
Some theories for the cull was because of having a significant EOP audience, but Lize doesn’t have that. She’s the least well-known in Sanbaka to EOPs
>>15703540so every post including the word ccv is cope now?
>>15703465cant tell for sure for outfits but for pokemon and DQ she is alwasy a constant 10k+Which looking at it SURPRISEhttps://vrabi.ml/video/gez614fvQH4https://vrabi.ml/video/lomhZleTS9oShe was beating the elite 4 in the last oine tough so hard to tell.
>>15703501She's overlapping Poker tournament, anon
>>15703470Lize averages like 15k for regular gaming stream. She's one of Nijifemales strongest streamers.
HAHAHA SUISEI BACK TO HER PRE 2020 NUMBERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_IW6CyYn1kAh, numbers...
>>15703525made bait thumbnail.. made nousagi watch it. then change the thumbnail? fuck that shit.
>>15703540bye bye koshien
>>15703601She's overlapping niji Poker tournament, anon
>>15703307they got my click because of peko
>>15703597That would not affect her core fanbase of 10-13k, which would watch her rain or shine.The poker tournament is for fans of Nijis and if they aren't fans of Lize, they wouldn't check out her costume anyways.
>>15703610
>>15703525>isrealhaven't opened a hologra in months, was she not in it?
>>15703633i mean all lize fans already left that.
>>15703640>NIJI>CORE FANBASERORU
>>15703639(me)meant to >>15703525
>>15703656for 1 second, as a background thought, saying peko peko. Marine gets a full segment, not in the original thumbnail.
>>15703561>dec 13this is still outdated tho
>>15703656only briefly as a cameo
>>15703368Outfit reveals are never that big numberwise in niji for some reason. I guess it doesn't attract tourists.
>>15703656Lemme actually watch it. I just happened to notice the thumbnail change.
i don't understand japanese, so this numberfagging is more interesting than the stream
>>15703656She was on as an image for a second or two.
>>15703656yeah was a mistakeshe appears as areference but not as a character.
>>15703525kek were people complaining? Or did they really just do stupid bait for no reason.
>>15703698>>15703701>>15703704>>15703716>>15703719thanks for the answer anons, were there angry nousagis in the comments or something
Emperor...
I kneel holochads, I KNEEL!
>>15703757Dear god
>>15703734Oh never mind. They put Marine only. So they're definitely just cylcing through click bait thumbnails instead of using a thumbnail that actually make sense
>>15703703Kanae got 38k for his costume last yearhttps://playboard.co/en/video/nKAoT2zvANMKenmochi got 43k for his costume a few months agohttps://playboard.co/en/video/LpkIjDYQjkcFuwa got 88k for his "costume"https://playboard.co/en/video/qqWqSCmwv2cIt just depends on who it is
>>15703757what are the usual numbers for hal?
>>15703801All men. Where’s the numbers for female Nijis
>>15703757Poor emperor.
>>15703703Kuzuha
>>15703757This dude still play apex.
Welcome to the HoloEN life Suzy. 37 mins is fast too.
>>15703821As far as I can tell, Lize hasn't had a proper new outfit since December 2019.
>>15703525Hologra is reclining, they used to hit 1M within a week/before the next one releases.
>>15703918??i dpeends on the hologra and the aprticipants there are a few still with 600k or 700k
(disclaimer: she has Sana with her)
>>15703918>Not AyameDepend on the person
>>15703918Good. It's shit.
>>15703918nah, hologra heavily depends on the cast
>>15703911She had one 3 months ago
>>15703942>>15703942>>15703942migrate when ready
>>15703962it is animal crossing FROM THE BEGGININGso it aint gonna get views.
>>15703821Ange (24k):https://playboard.co/en/video/G1qDfbK5pMMToko (20k):https://playboard.co/en/video/0rFAwWj0pgIToko again (21k):https://playboard.co/en/video/Fi6ejG2Iob4These are Lize's wavemates and they get around the same CCV.
>>15703985what was the peak?
>>15704002Anon, it's lower than Kiara's solo AC, whose median is lower than Bae, it's Kiara SC reading/JRPG level, it's not normal.
>>15704004So Lize’s numbers are actually fucked too
>>15704051Maybe Baelz wasn't culled before and only now is she on an equal playing field with Kiara, ever considered that?
how strong are these cool oji-san guest clips in mikorone stream?
>>15704035https://playboard.co/en/video/55uFLgqZuU0
>>15704051Everybody is watching Mikoro,retardNot even 7k watching strongest Mario karter Susei now
>>15703943>>15703961>>15703978I know it's dependent on participants but it has reclined
>>15703985Thanks anon, I finally found it. She got about 20k.>>15703821 >>15704004
>>15704082the ojisan who just appearedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Kushidathe first guy I think it's a meme since google translate will translate Lamy's Japanese name to Ramirez hence Lamy chan
>>15704066Mega fucked.Everyone gets a buff for a costume reveal, even Hima's 5k last night.The buff for Nijis is just not nearly as strong as it is for Holos.NO ONE declines doing a costume reveal.Even VSPO girls like Nose and Noah get 18-20k for costumes.
>>15704118Ramirez's a really popular baseball player with the Japanese.
>>15704118the first guy is a retired pro baseball player, Alex Ramirez. the Meme is inicdental
>>15704100it does seem that if you had to pick holos that basically every holofan is likely to be a fan of, miko and korone would be sitting pretty high on those liststhey're probably sucking up a lot of potential viewers
>>15704125well there's my shark...
Everyone should either move to twtich or deal with getting mogged by Vshojo from now on.
>>15704125Nose got 35k for her new outfit.
>>1570409627k for an outfit reveal in September, can't even clear 8k today. rumao susan
>>15704143>>15704148is the Lamy name coincidence the reason why he called in or is it because Korone likes baseball?
>>15704160only twitch avg is allowed here, not peaks
>>15704125Honestly really bummed about this because my small Niji oshi (Gaku) is gonna have 3D soon and his numbers might be messed up too for his debut
>>15704206A bit of both, I'd think? The Lamy-Ramirez meme was also all over Twitter sometime back, Ramirez himself probably had it brought to his attention.
>>15704111IMO season does also have to be considered. If it's still this low with buffed Holos going into Feb, then yea its a permanent decline instead of a seasonal drop.
>>15704231To be fair, I think Gaku's 3D numbers won't be that high anyways (his CCV is not great), but then again Toya is his friend so he'll probably show up right?
>>15704231Oh yea, RIP any Niji3Ds, numbers gonna super fucked.
>>15704206Korone is a huge fan of Ohtani
>>15704304Its still basically a coin toss imo.The culls haven't been consistent for everyone and surprisingly, the lower CCV Nijis seem to be saved from it.
>>15704288Yeah that’s why I’m bummed. It wasn’t gonna be that high and now it’s going to be even lower. I don’t know if Kenmochi can help it now
Reimu has possessed Selen
>>15701025>>15701120I'd keep in mind she streamed 11 hours yesterday. There are probably quite a few people that just couldn't make today live on top of all of it.
>>15704231I pity the incoming sub 5k 3D debuts
>>15704309Any Japanese should be. That guy is a fucking phenomenon.
>>15704309I know it will never happen but imagine if someone manages to get Ohtani to record a clip for Korone
>>15704339>4am PST/7am EST>Guerilla SC readingjfc Selen think of the numbers lmfao
>>15704337On the bright side he should still receive his fair share of subs and SCs, CCV might look down but those won't change at least.
>>15704349They joked about Keanu recording a clip earlier, but what if it wasn't a joke...?
The transition between Mikkorone segment is taking too long.
>>15704051kiara solo AC was months ago. The novety wear off
Nijipoker is at the finals and inclined back up to 42k.Let's hope Mikkone keeps inclining to preserve the crown.
>>15704368>>15704339iste menhera finally losing it?this sleepschedule will kill burn her off.
>>15704399I know you can pay western celebrities to do clips. that's how Miko got the people from GTA 5. Ohtani might be very difficult to get a hold of since he doesn't really do social media. he just wants to play baseball and that's it.
>>15704407It's as much for making sure things are working as it is for Korone, given her current health.
>>15704368people should stack all their debuff streams right now with the cullif the impossible dream happens and youtube reverts the change, you can then do all your actual numbers streams
Poker tournament was coming close to beating its peak in finals but it's over now.
Enter PekoMiko
>>15695856I fixed her, IRySfags