/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>15682337
ManjisansjiEN...

>>15682337
>valorant

>>15682337
Good lord that's grim

the site is garbage, end of discussion.

>>15682337
>Females
>Valorant
>Reimu
>Bad timeslot
Full set of debuffs

2021 superchat numbers in full
Hololive
>1. Uruha Rushia - $1,687,348
>2. Kiryu Coco - $1,489,485
>3. Yukihana Lamy - $992,666
>4. Usada Pekora - $908,973
>5. Amane Kanata - $901,033
>6. Houshou Marine - $881,214
>7. Mori Calliope - $854,824
>8. Momosuzu Nene - $740,342
>9. Takanashi Kiara - $721,452
>10. Tsunomaki Watame - $653,451
>11. Gawr Gura - $610,306
>12. Sakura Miko - $565,150
>13. Shiranui Flare - $562,645
>14. Inugami Korone - $546,880
>15. Oozora Subaru - $545,729
>16. Minato Aqua - $540,576
>17. Shirogane Noel - $483,805
>18. Nekomata Okayu - $431,927
>19. Nakiri Ayame - $431,020
>20. Watson Amelia - $374,780
>21. Natsuiro Matsuri - $374,416
>22. Shirakami Fubuki - $353,899
>23. Shishiro Botan - $348,441
>24. Tokoyami Towa - $340,380
>25. Ninomae Ina'nis - $329,004
>26. Murasaki Shion - $280,219
>27. Sakamata Chloe - $277,927
>28. Hoshimachi Suisei - $268,282
>29. Akai Haato - $241,405
>30. Ookami Mio - $239,491
>31. Himemori Luna - $229,231
>32. Aki Rosenthal - $225,894
>33. Kazama Iroha - $201,945
>34. Omaru Polka - $188,094
>35. Kureiji Ollie - $187,871
>36. IRyS - $173,842
>37. Ouro Kronii - $161,549
>38. Hakui Koyori - $143,866
>39. Laplus Darknesss - $135,391
>40. Roboco - $131,202
>41. Tokino Sora - $125,796
>42. Pavolia Reine - $96,246
>43. Hakos Baelz - $85,862
>44. Tsukumo Sana - $85,569
>45. Yozora Mel - $80,832
>46. Takane Lui - $70,844
>47. Nanashi Mumei - $70,563
>48. Ceres Fauna - $70,194
>49. Yuzuki Choco - $65,449
>50. Anya Melfissa - $50,755
>51. AZKi - $44,968
>52. Moona Hoshinova - $44,659
>53. Airani Iofifteen - $34,058
>54. Ayunda Risu - $27,385

Holostars
>1. Yukoku Roberu - $129,788
>2. Astel Leda - $112,308
>3. Arurandeisu - $92,546
>4. Kageyama Shien - $79,822
>5. Aragami Oga - $71,047
>6. Kishido Temma - $59,646
>7. Rikka - $50,650
>8. Hanasaki Miyabi - $46,484
>9. Kanade Izuru - $45,008

>>15682446
Nijisanji
>1. Kuzuha - $621,526
>2. Fuwa Minato - $594,278
>3. Kanae - $519,078
>4. Ibrahim - $444,016
>5. Kagami Hayato - $383,298
>6. Yuki Chihiro - $358,183
>7. Shirayuki Tomoe - $347,740
>8. Lauren Iroas - $261,353
>9. Saegusa Akina - $258,539
>10. Furen E Lustario - $253,013
>11. Suzuhara Lulu - $187,730
>12. Kenmochi Toya - $183,292
>13. Axia Krone - $176,602
>14. Leos Vincent - $174,216
>15. Rindou Mikoto - $168,187
>16. Inui Toko - $164,296
>17. Pomu Rainpuff - $162,319
>18. Debidebi Debiru - $152,857
>19. Oliver Evans - $146,651
>20. Nagao Kei - $140,949
>21. Tsukino Mito - $137,973
>22. Yashiro Kazuki - $131,045
>23. Fushimi Gaku - $131,012
>24. Sasaki Saku - $126,688
>25. Ange Katrina - $123,102
>26. Amamiya Kokoro - $121,615
>27. Lize Helesta - $120,282
>28. Elira Pendora - $118,998
>29. Selen Tatsuki - $118,898
>30. Yumeoi Kakeru - $118,551
>31. Ars Almal - $112,186
>32. Nun Bora - $111,805
>33. Machita Chima - $107,235
>34. Joe Rikiichi - $107,001
>35. Ratna Petit - $102,332
>36. Yorumi Rena - $98,331
>37. Takamiya Rion - $96,353
>38. Lain Paterson - $95,510
>39. Nishizono Chigusa - $91,660
>40. Hanabatake Chaika - $89,371
>41. Suzuki Masaru - $89,226
>42. Belmond Banderas - $86,120
>43. Shiina Yuika - $85,274
>44. Levi Elipha - $85,126
>45. Ex Albio - $84,651
>46. Gundou Mirei - $82,592
>47. Kurusu Natsume - $80,303
>48. Matsukai Mao - $79,761
>49. Honma Himawari - $78,750
>50. Sukoya Kana - $78,524
>51. Hoshikawa Sara - $78,296
>52. Utako Suzuka - $75,652
>53. Melissa Kinrenka - $74,942
>54. Luis Cammy - $74,784
>55. Kitakoji Hisui - $71,426
>56. Rosemi Lovelock - $69,897
>57. Elu - $69,316
>58. Suo Sango - $67,058
>59. Genzuki Tojiro - $65,568
>60. Finana Ryugu - $63,878

Holy shit niggersanjis BTFO'd

>>15682472
Indie/other
>1. kson (independent) - $488,659
>2. Shirayuki Mishiro (Noripro) - $234,607
>3. Zaki (independent) - $206,911
>4. Amano Pikamee (VOMS) - $206,134
>5. Ikinone Tomeru (Sinsogumi) - $189,995
>6. Ouma Kirara (Noripro) - $182,651
>7. Suou Patra (Honeystrap/774) - $172,660
>8. Inaba Haneru (Animare/774) - $169,783
>9. Hoozuki Warabe (Noripro) - $161,018
>10. TobaRana (Yenz Production) - $151,911
>11. QuonTama (GuildQC) - $145,147
>12. Tenshi Nano (Masquerade) - $138,522
>13. Shibuya Hal (Merise) - $132,947
>14. Yumeno Lilith (Noripro) - $129,390
>15. Ayamy (independent) - $127,247
>16. Fuji Aoi (independent) - $120,809
>17. Kakyoin Chieri (.LIVE) - $120,619
>18. Ichinose Uruha (VSPO) - $117,935
>19. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $117,121
>20. Natsume Eri (independent) - $117,071
>21. Kagura Suzu (.LIVE) - $117,071
>22. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $108,427
>23. Tenjin Kotone (independent) - $106,534
>24. Koinoya Mai (Propro) - $105,512
>25. Komori Met (VApArt) - $105,035
>26. Nekoda Pepero (Masquerade) - $104,808
>27. Natori Sana (independent) - $104,702
>28. Gatchman V (independent) - $103,683
>29. Shirayuki Reid (Merise) - $102,913
>30. Inuyama Tamaki (Noripro) - $101,819
>31. Asano Sisters (independent) - $96,734
>32. Amatsuka Uto (independent) - $91,478
>33. Hinano Ui (Cottage) - $87,126
>34. Shirayuri Lily (ViViD) - $85,059
>35. Otodama Tamako (Aogiri High School) - $83,205
>36. Kazami Kuku (Animare/774) - $82,071
>37. Yunohara Izumi (Animare/774) - $80,607
>38. Yumesaki Mia (Propro) - $79,626
>39. Tomari Mari (independent) - $78,262
>40. Kohana Sii (independent) - $77,268
>41. Rumi (independent) - $74,662
>42. Annin Miru (independent) - $73,316
>43. Tachibana Hinano (VSPO) - $72,691
>44. Koaku Mayo (IseV) - $72,330
>45. Nanto Kanaru (independent) - $71,316
>46. Maaru (independent) - $69,516
>47. Kagami Marina (independent) - $69,484
>48. Enomiya Milk (Noripro) - $68,825
>49. Kagura Mea (independent) - $68,197
>50. Shishigaya Flare (independent) - $67,656

>>15682472
>going by CCVs, VODs, subs and SCs Polka beats all of Edengumi
Uh

>>15682529
Please stop bullying Edengumi, that's not nice.

>>15682529
Huh? What exactly is your goal? Polka debuted a year earlier. If you wanna compare then compare eden gumi to council as they debuted at the same time

>>15682337
Reimu... do your Spanish streams. You need the numbers.

>>15682446
>>27. Sakamata Chloe - $277,927
Chloe's a monster. She might be top 5 this year.

>>15682529
Huh? U blind?
>261k
>188k

>>15682595
I could compare Edengumi to holoX but that'd make them look even worse

>>15682529
>Lauren beat her in SCs despite having a six months headstart
Kek

>>15682529
If you want to compare, compare gen 5 with Selejo and gen 6 with Edengumi.

>>15682690
Might be top 5 is putting it midly, barring any massive yabs I think she's more or less guaranteed top 3

>>15682781
>less than a month Lauren sama

>>15682529
>>15682595
Gen 5 should be compared to Selejo actually.

>>15682220
Interesting to note that not a single top 10 entry in 2019 made it to the top 10 this year, in fact other than Kuzuha and the 3 Hololive members all of the other 6 made less in 2021

Can it beat Unison (39 hours) to 1M?

>>15682967
Well, each of the others can be pretty clear explained, so this not as if it's somemfrand mystery why their SC earnings can't compare. Some sanity to numbers, unlike CCV.

Has Nijisanji been hit as hard as Hololive by the recent culling? Japs on the doorblogs keep saying only Hololive has been culled.

>>15683040
Possible. Its only been 17 hours and it's already over 700k.

>>15683092
No

>>15683092
No, it doesn't really look to effect them at all.

>>15683092
There's some oddness with some of the Niji numbers, but there hasn't been anything as blatant as Nene so it's hard to tell.

>>15682967
>Gundo
Stupid bitch, why did she ruin her career?

>>15682967
Meanwhile 6 of 2020's top 10 keep their place in 2021, joined by 4 who debuted in the second half of the year. Not much of a shakeup but I'm definitely expecting some of the gen 6 girls to be fighting for the top spots in 2022.

>>15682472
>Nijisanji's #1 wouldn't even be top 10 in Hololive
This is what you get for chasing all the idolfags away with offpako dodgeball. They are the ones with the money.

>>15683092
no, only the livers with a big eop fanbase. (nijien, chronoir, fujo male bait toya, fuwa, etc)

>>15683092
It's definitely not "only Hololive" but the degree to which Niji is hit might be less. Some indies also affected just as much as HL, some Nijis possibly affected in a significant way but it's hard to pick an effect out from normal variability if it's not extremely stark. Don't think in terms of company, think in terms of characteristics of each individual YouTuber's audience.

>>15683213
She was rotten to begin with, it was only a matter of time.

>>15682446
I like how all of Holo ID Gen 1 is below all of Holostars. Last time I saw something like this it was just Risu that was that low.

>>15683327
Jesus, I know some HoloEN waiting rooms have higher peaks than the stream, but it's even effecting NijiEN as well?

>>15683463
Holostars have some hardcore fujos just like NijiJP.

>>15682967
Crazy how we went from
>4 Holos
>5 Nijis
>2 774s
>1 indie
to two years in a row of 11 Holos plus the token vamp

>>15683573
They absolutely do not. Hololive fans (whether stars or live proper) are all well adjusted individuals. They aren't mentally ill like Niji fans.

>>15682436
>US prime timezone
>Bad timeslot
Pathetic excuse

>>15683327
It'd be interesting if that was the case.
Meaning you can tell which Holos or streams have a massive foreign(non-Japanese) presence.

>>15683648
Its absolutely a findom thing. I now get erections when I am giving money to my oshi. I can't get over how much I love these money sucking Holowhores. Seriously, I am obsessed with them.

>>15683712
it is a bad timeslot if you are a member of luxiem

>>15683648
Competition

>>15683473
Is taking lnonger to surprass the waiting room now
but not everyone is having that
check rosemi current graph to the omos for example.

TOP KEK
>Reimu...
Did she get Susan'd or got tech issues?

>>15683817
That is just the curse of being Reimu

>>15683817
a lot seem like got disconected
vox also has that

>>15683817
Tech issues

>>15683727
This post reeks of nijiseethe

>>15683648
The new blood are hungry. You think Kiara or Watame will stay in the top ten next year if HoloX keeps their gachis

Here is Elu,s truggling to beat her waiting room. She's usually over 1.5k, today she's struggling to break 500 (which she still hasn't, from a 384 waiting room, 20 minutes in)

>>15683648
That's what monopoly is called anon. What was a industry with many successful agencies now only have one.

>>15684120
Anon, you are selling Nijisanji short. Just because there is an agency at the top it doesn't mean the others aren't there

all my numberfagging sources are crumbling... please, anything....

Is this the most egregious example yet

>>15684157
>That time of the week again will not happen this week
:(

>>15682436
>Bad timeslot
>EN prime time
absolute cope

>>15684157
Maybe we should all take a rest physically and mentally

>>15684157
N-Nijibros have their version of this right?

>>15684234
Its interesting. I think what we are seeing with the new NijiEN wave are female unicorns. Everytime the new boys have collabed with the girls their numbers have been considerably lower than their solo streams. Seems their new SEA fujo fangirls don't want them hanging out with other girls.

>>15683382
>Some indies also affected just as much as HL
Name names.

>>15684434
Absolutely states of nijikeks

>>15684451
delta

>>15684157
>>15684251
Nene driving a crudely drawn kart through all your number crunching and telling you to take it easy

>49. Yuzuki Choco - $65,449
why so low? even lower than mel

>>15682446
Wow kanata surpassed marine this year in SC.

Maybe they'll finally announce something about these soon.

>>15682220
Absolute Hololive domination in the top 10.

Yagoo, I kneel!

Bae zatsu starting
4k waiting room.

>>15684654
she hasnt streamed as much
>>15684666
marine was out of comittion for a month and her anniversary just launched her trought the roof

Do you guys think that Cover hires some shitters just to keep the saviorfags inside the box?

Most of the fans they lose to outside vtubers are saviorfags.

>>15682337
Homostar beating some of the NijiEN girls.

>>15684451
NTA but my oshi is a reincarnated former corpo and therefore has a small but incredibly dedicated fanbase, so her numbers were incredibly consistent, around the 350 mark for almost every stream. Now it's more like 200 and sometimes doesn't even get to that...

>>15683289
If anything Niji is proof that there exist an audience that's more numerous and less insane than idolfags

>>15684967
But kuzuha is an idol now.

>>15684995
Male idols are different, they don't attract the smelly incels that are responsible for unicorn idolfaggotry

>>15685034
proof?

>>15684615
Honorary Holo.
She's probably still connected in the algo

>>15684265
No, but you can be the first, dont miss the chance

>>15684967
What's the point of a "more numerous" audience if they don't watch streams outside of full company collabs and don't donate to their favourite livers?

>>15684967
>>15685034
Projection. Have self-aware.

>>15685053
Majority of male idol fans are women. The men who like male idols are going to be more well adjusted and not screech in impotent rage over girls talking to guys.

>>15685034
apologize

>>15685169
>paid cosplayer fetishizing the male gaze
What is this supposed to prove?

Looks like she might just scrape back her waiting room.

>>15685144
Funny you say this when Kuzuha has one of the worst fanbases in Nijisanji to the point that he tells people to ban his name in their chat.

>>15685205
That smile is as genuine as the voices in your head anon

>>15685144
>men who like male idols
That's gay anon

I think Playboard's servers melted after the tough day they had, daily SC chart isn't up there yet an hour later than usual

Jesus christ that took a while

>>15685270
Those aren't idol fans, those are toxic manchildren coming for his games streams

>>15685270
isn't his fanbase more male

>>15685300
It's not a good song.

>>15685300
It's a bad song.

>>15685278
Better to be gay than to be a unicorn

>>15685300
ocean poggers!

>>15685169
Can't tell who this whore is cosplaying as

>>15685034
I haven't seen a post this ignorant of reality or females in a long time.

>>15684434
Because the presence of girls ruined the unique dynamic of boys-only collab. I expect something like danshi koukousei no nichijou when watching males, the girls should appear briefly, not appearing frequently. Mixed gender collabs are boring and reminds me too much of real life. What's the point of watching vtubers if they remind you of real life streamers?

Who had the best vod views today? Since the new ccv sytem is a fking lie.

>>15685402
Touch grass, vtubing is at its peak when we get live flirting and relationship drama like reality TV shows

>>15685364
holy fuck anon, im@s idol outfit

>>15685345
t.gay

>>15685345
ew gtfo

>>15685421
Gura's new year stream 700k maybe

>>15685100
They buy merch.

>>15685034
One of the main reasons people anti Kuzuha is because of his fanbase, you are very ignorant

Something I just noticed, is it just me or did Choco's orisong get a strong view/like push of late or did some susan fuckery limiter get limited? It was struggling along as one of the worst, if not the worst at roughly 90k views and 11k likes about 2 weeks ago.

I decided to give it a watch and view now and suddenly its up to 178k views and 23k likes. I'm happy for Choco but uh...what the fuck happened?

>>15685434
Only if the flirting and relationship drama is animesque.

There's no point in trying to replicate live reality shows with vtubing.

>>15685345
Holy kek this narrative

>>15685434
The absolute state.
If I wanted that sorta shit there's plenty of other shit I'd watch over vtubers you delusional shipfag.

>>15685557
Merch cope again. How many times did Niji merchandise sell out?

>>15685615
That's odd. Perhaps it finally got picked up and associated with the rest of the Holosongs.

>>15685649

>>15685649
Well, with Niji they can't sell out for their basic shit since it's all produced by them right? Running out? Just make more.

>>15685434
>Reality tv shows
Just watch your TV then. I hate reality TV shits like the Kardashian.

Holofags getting uppity again today huh

Hey retards, whose New Year's stream was the most watched again? Sit down and shut the fuck up Holobronies, Nijibros run this shit

>>15685685
>50% cut
LMAO

>>15685685
This still makes me laugh LMAO

>>15685300
Based, I like the song. Most of the song is a total mess but the chorus is infectious as shit. I love it.

>>15685207
This is one of baes biggest room for bae ina while for a solo stream.
also there are plenty of koreans and jops today .
mmm
is hard to tell. It cannot be the number of people on the waitingroom or gaining viewers rapidly as we saw with roboco she doesnt get more than 2k suually and still got culled hard. we know te counter is updating faster now also.
Only ting i can think of is the global fanabse getting extra filtered with the new count speed.
The more tourists and viewers from other countries the more it drops the viewers as it needs to update faster now.
Any of the girls have streamed with dvr or low latency on?

>>15682446
Looking at this I think a bottom tier Holo like Mel probably earns 90-100k from Hololive activities a year. A mid tier like Botan pockets 200k-300k and a top tier Holo like Miko or higher gets over 500k annually.

Lamy and Rushia are in a tier of their own and with all combined Hololive income probably easily exceed 1 million a year.

>>15685434
go back to twitch retard

Whatever happened to the NijiKR news? Why are they imploding?

>>15685207
Jesus

I remember not too long ago when a 4k waiting room would mean you are hitting at least 8k for your stream. Now you are lucky to get the waiting room back.

New normal sucks. SUSAN give back the numbers!!!

>>15685726
>Niji likely spent millions of yen in equipment, staff, talent managing, choreography and scripting, editing, advertisements and all the manpower required to pull a 60-man stream, for 3 hours in a once per year event.
Visualize all that effort
And now realize Pekora only had to order a new avatar, and then stream for 60 minutes to beat it

Been looking at VSPO's viewership and while it's not nearly as obvious as HL I think it's the best non-HL demonstration of a fall in viewership over the time period in question.
https://vrabi.ml/group/%E3%81%B6%E3%81%84%E3%81%99%E3%81%BD%E3%81%A3%EF%BC%81

For example
Day 1 of a tournament https://vrabi.ml/video/zyneC0qOABc
Day 2 of a tournament
https://vrabi.ml/video/7GDEsdllmqk

See how the peaks corresponding to the matches are way smoother? Can anyone pull out better examples from this data?

>>15685918
When you think about it, the sheer profit per investment COVER has is insane

>>15685685
Which is better, to produce so little that you are always unable to meet demand and thus never making close to your potential income, or produce more than enough to meet demand but run the risk of embarrassing pictures like this popping up?

>>15685985
>produce so little that you are always unable to meet demand
Works for Nintendo

>>15685985
>produce so little that you are always unable to meet demand
This. Slap a 200% markup on them too because they're "exclusive" and you know the fanatics will pay it. Japanese anime industry has run like this for decades.

>>15685853
About the lawsuit or Anykara going after that Korean board?
>>15685918
Didn't Rindou pay for all of it out of pocket? I recall that's the reason why it's on her channel and not Nijisanji main.

>>15685985
Do both. Do a more limited premium product and a much bigger run of something less premium that you can afford to throw away some for the plebs. This is like marketing 101.

>>15685985
Do the latter for premium merch.

Do the former for cheap merch. Have to make sure that the talent you're using is not gonna be menhera if it doesn't sell out.

>>15685918
And that's why really Nijisanji won. There was actual effort behind it.
Because they cared about their fans and wanted to give them something great (instead of just doing the same tired thing holobronies eat up every time) they got numbers, and that will always be much more worth than whatever Pakora got

>>15685836
I wonder how/if they are paid for promotions involving their character
>>15685985
Definitely the former. You can include some extra markup on individual items to make up for the reduced cap

>>15685985
unfortunately, niji is blinded by their event peaks they think the same interest lies on monetary consumption. despite seemingly having higher koshien or slow & steady incline, they have no c99 corpo booths for a reason

>>15685923
Dang, look at that shit. Susan was not kind to them but at least they pass 1k mark even though goes right back down.

>>15686068
>About the lawsuit or Anykara going after that Korean board?
Both.

I tried searching the archives but I don't see it. Might be titled weirdly.

>>15685853
I mean, that's hardly a new thing for that branch. Incompetently run, and some psycho talents to boot.

>>15683817
>>15683987
>>15685207

New Number anon here, what's the name of this page you are using?

Anybody have a Link to it?

>>15686151
>Nijisanji won because they put on effort, despite not getting the higher number

what is this merit cope

>>15686203
vrabi, see below the OP

>>15686163
>I wonder how/if they are paid for promotions involving their character
Probably not at all. Cover owns the rights to the design so they can use it how they wish. Holos don't even get told they're going to be in Hologra if they don't have a speaking role.

>>15686151
Corpo event vs a cute girl trying her best after a year of being denied an outfit.

We all know which has more soul.

>>15686243
Uff, I am dumb, I should have searched there first. Yeah , that's the site, thanks Anon

>>15686151
Nijicope anon!! We have another one for the list.

>>15686176
Just search for "yuya"

>>15686295
The one where they had actual entertainers perform and dance as lively as they can in 3d compared to the a cheap ass corpo trying to wring as much money out of their audience with a shoddily rigged PNG

>>15686430
JESAS

>>15686329
Here's a protip, there's always a post mentioning a bunch of numberfagging sites near the beginning of each thread

>>15686430
why dragoon not invited? she an fps player

>>15686430
>best singer in NijiEN
>singing songs normally not sung by Chuubas
>only 1k viewers
Must suck being in NijiEN. I hope Enna the best but it's also her fault for listening to Millie

>>15686475
Thanks anon, I will keep that in mind for the future

>>15686550
Should have covered an anime song popular enough to get 100M views on its own.

>>15686455
>>15686151
The seethe is unreal still, I see

>>15686430
>Council is a failure
Rumao Rumao

>>15686614
>100M
Try 125M

>>15686430
>The flagship of NijiEN's golden generation getting mogged by the 2view council rat

>>15686151
New cope I see. Effort without numbers is nothing. There's a reason why Pekora outfit reveal had more viewers than NJU that was hyped and live on a single stream.

Here is a very dense chart, but one whose punchline will be worth it.
> 7 days rolling median of peak CCV

Whatever happened is hitting certain streamers hard
>Flare is at an all time low
>Luna is at an all time low
>Watame, Okayu and Botan been lower: once

Whatever they did will make Dec 2020 look like Coco graduation buff.
It's hitting Nijisanji as well. Fuwa usually beats 10k easily, last two streams failed to do so and last stream failed to beat 9k

>>15686151
If they were really entertaining, why can't they dominate the clip scene then?

They were the top dog, and yet Hololive got clipped more? Just means that Hololive has better entertainers than Nijikeks.

>>15686855
Out of all of these, Luna is the most interesting example. She was more or less immune to the "highs and "lows" of the Hololive events and stayed close to the 5k line.

Then overnight she cratered

>>15686632

Lol bae actually pass 5k. The system try to put her down. 4.9k most of the time.

>>15686855
Can't really say Luna has a large EOP presence so it's probably nothing to do with that.

>>15686490
Selen refuses to become an accessory for ManisanjiEN.

>>156857
Can you still say that Nijisanji still runs this shit when Hololive mogs them almost every day?

>>15686938
Bae inclining!!! Love this hard working rat!!

>>15686490
She's feeling insecure about her recent numbers.

>>15686938
>Gen 3 is the strongest gen

>>15686938
Last samurais HATE to see this

>>15686855
Look at that Flare incline and subsequent murder.

>>15686938
That's Kiara tier numbers. I always knew Myth was stronger than Gen 3.

>>15686938
Noel got fucked the most yesterday. She sit at 2k most of the time, it's nuts.

>>15686938
Oh my.............Gura is going to be winning a lot more golds now isn't she?

>>15687036
Youtube hates niggers, confirmed!

>>15687054
Cope, EN was fucked just as bad if not worse since a year earlier, Bae would actually be at 10k+ if not for the culling.

>>15686885
Because Holo pays for clippers while Niji is powered by their small but loyal fanbase who make clips out of passion and to share their enjoyment of Niji chuubas

>>15687054
Her pokemon streams between 3 and 4 dropped 60%+, jesas

>>15687092
Now, now. That just means that JP and EN are now on an even footing.

This time for sure, we'll see who's stronger.
>>15687096
DYRB?

>>15686550
you want numbers for singing stream? sing the vtuber hits (KING, roki, envy/cry baby, phony, kamipoi, vampire, s'il vous president)
want to be that quirky girl that's not like other vsingers? sing the alternative hits (Ado, YOASOBI, LiSA, One OK Rock, Mrs GREEN APPLE, etc.)
want to flex your vocal techniques? sing the "challenge" songs (Konayuki, Gurenge, Unravel, I beg you, Umi no Yuurei, etc)
want to be singing grandma? that's when you do enka streams.

>>15687054
The system doesn't count funneling or someting after marine finish her stream i thought yeah time for noel to get the funnel. Susan said nope.

>>15687096
Hololive isn't the one sending ads on their main competitors' channels.

They aren't the ones who tried to force react streamers to react to their content either.

And Nijisanji actually hired clippers to put clips on their main channel.

For a company who hates "forcibly acquired fans" Nijisanji sure do a lot of things to forcibly acquire them.

>>15686968
anon...i think you replied to the wrong post

>>15687131
It's already clear who's stronger

https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1477158467337138180

>>15687096
Its literally the exact opposite of what you just posted, lol. I suspect you for a false flagger though who is trying to build up the NijiCOPE list.

>>15687031
>Chloe Outfit reveal - 39k
>Gura Karaoke Relay+Special Announcement
You okay there chumpedo? Still coping and seething I see

>>15687238
>First outfit reveal.
>Can't even beat 100k.

Damn HoloX are such failures.

>>15687238
>outfit reveal
>barely beats a scuffed karaoke by 6k
Keep seething last samurai, meanwhile the rabbit can't even hit 30k anymore

>>15687235
>The guys account name is literally BugYoutube
Fucking based

>>15684120
Hololive could be the only vtuber company and completely dominate the top 50 and it still wouldn't be a monopoly because vtubers in general are just a drop in the bucket of online entertainment.

>>15687238

>>15687209
>2022
>Niji still lives rent free in Holofaggot's heads
Nijichads still winning

>>15686068
Pretty sure she paid for NJU 2020 but I have no idea about 2021.

>>15687319
That is Laplus' first outfit reveal. At least compare it to Gura's first outfit reveal as well.

>>15687328
They aren't living rent free. They;re paying ads so I can't forget them.

>>15687319
Isn't Laplus after the cull?

>HoloMyth outfit reveals
>200k after compensating for the cull
>HoloX outfit reveals
>60k after compensating for the cull
Can't even consider this a competition, it's outright slaughter.

>>15687372
That's an even bigger mogging.
>>15687394
Gura's was also after the cull the robbed her of 50% of her viewers.

>>15687372
>Gura's first outfit
>194k
>>15687394
So is Gura's, Gura got 388k for her first outfit if you want to correct for culling

>>15687328
>Rent free
>When they keep paying for ads, clips, and react content.
They're paying a large amount of money to live in my head, anon.

>Seething chumnigger shits up the thread 24/7 because he's so bitter over Gura reclining in 2021
You know things will return to status quo right. Pekora will be back to mogging Gura in regularly scheduled streams by February and you'll have to scurry back to global to seethe over it again.

>>15687137
>phony

>>15687274
Still says a lot when the Nips would rather watch a new PNG costume than listen to your memeshart's shitty singing rumao

>>15687426
>Gura's was also after the cull
Cull happened in December 2021. Guras reveal was before that.

>>15687476
Pekora can't even get over 190k even after all the numberfagging buffs she had done all year.

Gura barely numberfags and she managed to get it.

>>15687522
>would rather
>EN was culled twice by now so they're actually pulling in at least 4x the numbers
You sure about that last samurai?

>>15687096
Lmao. I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. Nijisanji was the one paying for YouTubers to watch Niji clips

And of course during morning SEA time this thread turns from civil to shit

>>15687524
EN was already affected by the cull since last 2020

HoloJP's recline in December 2020 was actually just the holiday debuff. Just like EN only lost about a thousand viewers this month due to holiday debuff as well.

JP's are only affected by the cull now.

>>15687538
Gura is like Niji in that she has a lot of tourists who will tune in for special events but never watch her normal streams because she's not a very good streamer.

I count at least 3 schizos, and now their wires got crossed somehow and they're battling each other.

I liked it better when it was midgets fighting tho

>>15687496
that's pretty good for the penguin
even anya's is doing pretty good

>>15687235
This dude must be a pro behind the scene, pajeets rekt'd

Why do you guys constantly fight with each other

>>15687609
SEA will never be japanese no matter how much they defend their nip masters

>>15687610
Cope. Gura was battling Pekora under the cull debuff for a year.

>>15687235
Good on the guy, but unless some bigger names actually push YT on the issue, they'll continue to ignore it.
As unseemly as it may be, they're gonna need one of the Holos themselves to needle YT on Twitter and cause an actual visible reaction, otherwise they'll continue to just ignore these no-names.

>>15687657
because what else is there to do after the bullshit that happened during nene's stream?

>>15687238
39k for an outfit reveal is not something to be proud of anonchama..... Even Kiara who has a low floor got more on her 2nd outfit.

>>15687137
>I beg you
Huh? This song is easy especially if you sing relaxedly like Aimer. Unravel too unless you're a male. Agree with Gurenge it is hard since it requires full belting power + rock style

>>15687611
>EN was already affected by the cull since last 2020
That hit everyone equally. It's already been pointed out that EN by that time was reclining heavily.

Standardise for 10,000 viewers

HoloEN viewership decreases by 1,000 in december
HoloJP viewership increases by 1,000 in decement

Cull is 2,000 viewers

HoloEN goes down to 7,000
HoloJP goes down to 9,000

It looks like JP didn't get hit as hard but in reality their natural incline mitigated some of the cull while ENs natural decline exacerbated the culls effects. You can confirm this by looking at ENs averages in the first quarter of 2021 and see they're on a consistent decline while JP viewers hold steady or increase.

NijiEN's cover doesn't seem to get traction.

>>15687638
Anya's already passed Petra's with less time.

>>15687773
>making up numbers in the numbers thread
Gura was inclining when the cull happened, retard, it was JPs who were declining

JP was also affected by the Dec 2020 cull, I don't know why you're trying to memory hole this so badly.

>>15687328
What the anon said was true tho. Spitting facts.

>>15687235
kek, I like this canned answers of theirs
> また、収益化されているチャンネルの所有者様は、詳細についてクリエイター サポートでご案内可能な場合がございますので、宜しければご活用下さい

Pretty much saying
>unless you are the channel owner (which can contact us privately) please stop making a fuss in public

>>15687778
it's good to have one than none at all regardless if the views is weak

>>15687851
Dont reply t the last samurai schizo

>>15682220
what happened to rushia

>>15687833
>Gura was inclining when the cull happened, retard
The numbers don't support this. You can see her numbers from January consistently decreasing. That means December was part of that trend. If Gura was inclining she would have continued to incline even after the cull, exactly how JP did.

>>15687476
>Things will return to status quo right
LMAO keep dreaming
Right now this is the normal
You have to get used to it, ENschizo

>even the hololive subreddit knows that EN were culled heavily while JP got out mostly unscathed with only a few exceptions back in Dec 2020
the last samurais in this thread are more uninformed than redditors, imagine that

>>15687851
Because last samurai schizo is a legit mentally ill 3rd worlder who got so asshurt over Gura getting mogged that he's spent the entirety of 2021 shitting this thread up in revenge.

>>15687958
What do you mean?

>>15687773
HoloEN never stopped inclining, they've just been under multiple massive culls.
It actually fucked with their ability to predict merch sales and convention attendance. Merch restocks were being promised instantly and convention staff was scrambling for bigger theaters.
That's one reason why conventions are useful, you can see physical headcounts without Youtube being able to lie about it.

>>15688026
Redditors are uninformed, just like you, dear touristchama.

>>15688032
so he's a 3rd world cumbud? jesas...

>>15687980
The numbers kept going down because Susan kept increasing the cull on them and less numbers has a snowball effect in a downward trend just like how high numbers do except upwards, learn how Youtube works.

Well, at least we've got the daily timeloop

>>15688032
man getting called last samurai really got to you huh

>>15687851
>>15688032
>>15688079
samefagging ENschizo

>>15687891
Well, someone needs to call them on their 'bluff'. They ain't gonna do SHIT unless someone with say, a million followers decides they've had enough with YT's bullshit and presses the point.

>numbers kept going down because Susan kept increasing the cull
If this does not make people stop engaging the schizo you guys deserve his continued presence.

>>15688137
only the third post is mine, nice try cumbud

>>15688079
Little does he know that Gura hates shitskins so he never had a chance in the first place

>>15688032
Ogey last samurai

>>15688169
He's been here the entire year so...

>>15688169
There's at least 3 chumbuds (or one with 3 devices) while one constantly outs himself as an obvious retard by putting the word last samurai into every sentence even though it's hardly an insult.
Don't you love the state of this thread?

>>15685402
I hope you are a femanon, because if so its like looking into a genderbent mirror....

>>15688169
>Samefags the thread for the entire fucking year
Yeah he's a deranged 3rd world NEET, he's not fucking off any time soon.

>6k waiting for nene
this is gonna be a massacre for her numbers

>letter for ollie
>viewers fucked off
HAHAHAHA

>VODs inclined
>constantly sold out merch underestimating demands by orders of magnitude
>constantly fully booked panels underestimating popularity by orders of magnitude
>EN are reclining because this broken CCV metric shows they're going down
oh nyo, last samurais still coping

>>15687673
Its not really a battle.

Pekora

Watch hours - 33M+
Views - 219M
SC - $908k
Average CCV - 24k


Gura

Watch hours - 11M+
Views - 155M
SC - $610k
Average CCV - 18k

>>15688064
>multiple massive culls.
When do multiple culls happen?

>>15688504
Whenever EN viewership goes down, obviously

>>15687980
>Gura was not inclining
>Her debut month (September) had an average ccv of 43k
>October was 45k
>November was 46k
>On average ENs were hit by about 37%, JPs were hit by about 25% iirc according to graphanon

>>15688433
called it, 5K slashed after it started

>>15688619
the slash is normal te problem is that it barely recovers them

>>15688032
Gaijin's new weapon is much better than ours ...last samurai

>>15688469
Pekors still win on all metrics but you have to also count number of streams. Pekora has almost double the stream of Gura.

>>15688619
Has always been a big slash, the question is if it counts them within 10 minutes like it did before, or if it takes longer or never counts.
I can imagine Nene hitting us with another poll this stream so here's to hoping.

>>15688469
you're not accounting for the possibility EN VODs are also being culled , also
>views
>not views/video
spamming videos aren't an indicator of popularity

>>15688668
Black ship is coming again!
Open the door!
Stop being closed!

>>15687375
kek

>>15688688
It does looks like some anon a few threads ago said the new ccv cull might be the same as the sub cull in August.

On a tangential topic: with Ochame Kinou putting all Holo girls side by side it is IMPOSSIBLE not to notice how bold it was the departure from the "cute anime girl" style IRyS illustrator
>and how ugly it turned out

I love IRyS and think she's a great streamer but her model, damn, it's ugly and having her side by side with the other girls only makes it look worse...
...which makes her numbers even more impressive.
>webm related

>>15686195
>He doesn't know
Almost all of HoloJP are menhera and that ship hasn't sunk. How do you explain that

>>15688674
Then let me compare her to a top tier holo who have less stream hours than gura then.

Marine

Watch hours - 11.7M+
Views - 188.6M
Sc - 881k+
Average Ccv - 21k
Stream Hours - 547hrs

Gura

Watch hours - 11.5M+
Views - 155M
SC - $610k
Average CCV - 18k
Stream Hours - 641hrs

>>15688874
>Marine
>spams short videos
not a fair comparison

En vs jp is so stupid. Stop it nijisisters.

>>15688831
Cover need to whitewash her
She looks better when she's white

>>15688861
Money makes the world go around.
Also, hags with a firm hand help keep the worst impulses of the menhera talents in check.

What is the gold candidate for today lads?

>>15688946
No idea I don't really care about ccv anymore, but come here out of habit

>>15682967
>323k in 2019, 1.4M in 2020, 1.69M in 2021
It keeps increasing, now with Chloe added in, she'll be number 1 or 2 depend on how she's gonna milk her 3D debut and second outfit reveal.

>>15688946
mikorone 24hr

https://youtu.be/RY_2gElt3SA?t=289
I'm curious if this is what happened to viewers but more aggressive than before?

>>15688465
>can't read tables right
>can't prove his points
>talks to himself in his head
>only rebuttal for everything is calling them a samurai
Iroha Kazama dearly appreciates your presence, schizo.

>>15688946
Probably Niji Poker

>>15688169
> he doesn't know about samefagging to appear as it he's being engaged

>>15688928
I think her skin color looks more natural (?) after a few months because she slightly adjusted it. The original model's problem is not the dark skin, it makes her looks like have some vitamin deficiency.

>>15689039
Its a single POV right?

>>15688674
maybe Gura should stream more then
when you aim for the king, you'd better not miss

>>15689085
Even her hair and outfit are too dark without her usual stream filter.

>>15689149
who's the king?

>>15689057
Might be, they probably just rewrote their code to make it easier for servers with the reasoning that this new view count system is good for sponsors when in fact they just don't want to pay for new servers every year

>>15688946
probaly mikorone 24 stream


10min and still sub6k for nene. I just cant grasp my ead about what is so different.>>15689057
it has alwasy been but this degradation is ridiculous, either some of their server are fucking up or the olidays traffic is destroying youtube servers.

>>15688674
>Pekora mogs Gura on pure view count
>Ayame mogs Gura on video by video basis
It's tough being a chumbud trying to find something Gura can actually win at. Imagine having 3.8 million subs and getting regularly trashed by JP senpais with less than half that.

>>15689123
yeah it is an offcollab

>>15689175

>>15688917
It's clearly not just that tho, there is genuine JP vs EN animosity between a few posters here, it's like a revenge game played on loop that started with Gura mogging everyone in 2020 and then kept going from there whenever something big happens to JP or EN in their "favor".

>>15689234
Except Gura was actually trashing everyone in CCV throughout 2021?

Hololive polls frequently and bizarerely get 200-300% participation rate. Compare this to Twitch polls, where the participation rate is 20% at the absolute best. Since we know that Twitch doesn't do the retarded ccv culling, we can get real Hololive CCV by multiplying their numbers by 10-15.

>>15689250
Then tomorrow the contender is mikorone again right?

>>15689252
how did Peko vs Gura go to irrelevant folks?

nijinigger exposed.

>>15689252
Silverboy, is that you?

>>15689250
Depends on the content and what else happens.

>>15689252
>king
>actually below Gura

>>15689276
>multiplying their numbers by 10-15
only for EN, the best JP has ever gotten is only 100% participation rate

>>15689267
She obviously wasn't. If Gura was beating anyone at CCV the chumbuds wouldn't have spent the better part of the year pushing VOD cope

>>15689276
>7.3 million people watched Coco graduate

>>15689359
At least VOD numbers aren't completely made up like CCV.

>>15689234
only thing she got is first to million views on music. we'll see if she can break her own record with the mori boost.

>>15689280
Yea. Looking at the schedule, they're breaking up the streams by game so they're going to fucking litter the list of 10k+ streams.

>>15689359
You're forgetting the cull

Numbers? >>15688964

>>15689406
There's only going to be two frames for this.

>>15689359
You mean views/video because if we are just looking at views in general gura is not top 1.

>>15689359
help me cope, I paid $50k for this

>>15689406
>>15689465
Fucking schedule site. It's showing multiple goddamn frames. Yea, its gonna be 2 frames, thanks for the heads up.

>>15689149
I think it's just some anons mad at Gura being lazy compare to most members but still getting good outcome, and that triggers people to trash on her for not trying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIw1kbDG-9o&ab_channel=holoboardMusicCh..

>>15688928
Oh what could have been...
Friendly reminder that management approved this. Fucking fire Omegay already

>>15689584
Guess we can use this for this week since the usual bloke is taking a break for the song rankings.

>>15689611
Based

>>15689539
I guess the official schedule site is doing it that way because there'll be multiple guests throughout the entire collab and some people might only want to tune in for certain guests.

>>15689758
That makes perfect sense. I expect the fucking graph for this stream to be some stupid looking shit instead of the usual peaks we get for different guests/games.

>>15688861
When I say psycho I mean it, not just some mentally fragile hikis.
And NijiKR management make Cover look like a bastion of competancy

>Actually starting to see Nene getting 6.5k for a rhythm game whilst virtually uncontested as good numbers
Have I been cured of numberrot?

>>15690081
Not yet, the healing process for numberrot takes 2 weeks and in worst cases a month or 2

>>15690081
Yeah and with first stream after new outfit reveal buff

>>15690081
It's a sponsored stream relay and I'm pretty sure she has the highest numbers out of any of them so far, which were around 5k each.

>>15690081
If anything I feel bad for the girls who probably think their viewers left.

>>15690193
Who else in the sponsored stream relay?

>>15690193
oh no, how are the indies doing with the cull

>>15690237
They should have better data to know what's really going on. Regardless, Botan coincidentally talked about this just a few days ago, mentioning that when she joined Hololive she didn't expect the boom period to last so long and that if it ends sometime in the future that's just something to roll with too, because nothing stays at the peak forever.

>>15690251
https://pjsekai.sega.jp/news/article/index.html?hash=1b41136ed1d2957e0c3517710bd4cc953a25f9b3

Quite a few, some interesting names in there as well

>>15690251
>>15690289
https://pjsekai.sega.jp/news/article/index.html?hash=1b41136ed1d2957e0c3517710bd4cc953a25f9b3
List of participants and their channels here, not sure if vrabi will have the archived CCV but I don't think any of them hit 6k yesterday.

>>15690289
if the hypothesis from earlier threads about holo viewers getting flagged as bot are correct, only holo adjacent indies would be most affected. so uto, holo mamas, etc would be where we see the highest cull.

>>15690387
That's bullshit, indies I watch with zero holo overlap have had their CCV halved

Why so many Niji poker streams?

>>15690344
>>15690360
Eli got good number yesterday

>>15690344
Petra getting her first sponsorship.

>>15690473
Tourney coming up.

>>15690473
It's a man's game
It's the same for all of their big events

>>15690484

>>15689085
>>15688928
>Cover need to whitewash her
It's not just the skin tone. This pic >>15689611 got it right in the other much needed change

>the shape of her face plus her elf ears make her face book like a football (handegg ball, actually)

>>15690360
>hal
He plays things other than FPS?

>>15690626
Money is money

>>15690471
examples?
even barely holo adjacent (got inclined from a holo clipper channel) like HACHI seem to have lost about 20%

>>15688946
Niji poker on main channel VS KoroneMiko

Considering how hard Miko got culled... Idk man.
Look at her recent 7k CCV stream vod views and compare them to the vods where she did the same thing to 14k people.

>>15690591
Yeah, I said on debut that her head just looks bizarrely wide.

>>15690591
now now no need to be so tsundere

Anything gold-worthy here?

>>15690752
Kiara will win gold.

>>15690752
Read the thread anon, all the ones that are part of the mikorone 24 hour are going to be part of 1 of 2 streams.

>>15690591
The ears shouldn't count but the hair shape does contribute to make her look wider.

this is so weird BUT give us more info
Roboco had again a waiting room of 1.2k HOWEVER this time she cleare it way faster than before and seem to be growing at the same rate as her 27th streams which is not a lot BUT is not stalling like the one yesetrday.

Keeping an eye on noels pokemon stream in a moment too.

>>15690752
>HoloEN Mikoro show
Wut???

>>15690897
so the cull is pretty much really inconsistent ?

>>15690726
>her head just looks bizarrely wide.
>>15690835
>The ears shouldn't count but the hair shape does contribute to make her look wider.
The ears are the whole problem. They cause a sort of an "optical illusion" that makes her face look wider football shaped like I highlighted.

Here is the comparison, ear vs. no ear

>>15690897
It's probably their blackbox AI that's culling the CCV, so sometimes it gets flagged and sometimes not

That's why CCV is dead now since some streams that's supposedly higher than others might just have not been flagged

>>15688831
The worst thing is her base design is bad and they will always use base design for most content so she's fucked.

Even Flare, who openly hates her base design and refused to use it after she got her costume, still has her lizard face l2d on Cover promotional content.
Maybe Irys can be lucky like her and get an actual redesign later down the road, but it's been 6 months and Irys still hasn't gotten a costume yet.

>>15690956
Yes, it's been stated it doesn't seem to apply consistently to streamers, has no goddamn rhyme or reason. It's REALLY ANNOYING.
>>15690940
Just means that EN are gonna make an appearance onto that segment of their 24 hour streaming session.

>>15690897
Might be on a stream by stream basis or is it getting fixed right now?
Roboco graph didn't stall out.

>>15690897
She's doing a GBF gacha stream so her normal CCV for a stream like this would be around 4k. Still kinda good news for her.

Nene is still below or barely tied her waiting room I think.

Fucking SUSAN fix your goddamn site!!

>>15690484
this should be a good test case. Nene got a slightly smaller peak than her. We should compare their vods to see if they have similar view counts.

>>15691053
Nene passed her waiting room by some 500-600

>>15690998
Don't they get to use their 3D for promo stuff sometimes?

>>15690897
I'd hate to be Roboco right now. Stagnating for a year just to start the new one below the 1k line

>>15691065

>>15691002
fuck, i'm going to have to chug some energy drinks, don't wanna miss that.

>>15691053
she wasnt doing gacha pulling bur rather pulling luck with their new 3d props first.
Just now it starting booting the game.
Still clearing the waiting room fast is a good signal.

Still i think we should watch noel first.

>>15689346
100% participation is absurd and means its probably actually under 50% and the real live viewer number is anywhere from 50-100%+ higher at a minimum.
The top non-vtuber streamers cant even get 30% poll participation.

>>15691068
>>15691109
https://vrabi.ml/video/rk6AwzFpIDg
Was looking at this.

>>15691054
No

>>15691054
No, you weebs need to get out of my platform.

>>15691109
nevermind was looking at the now streaming tab instead of the daily tab for vrabi.

>>15691174
Guess vrabi caught a different waiting room peak. I can believe that the waiting room more or less equalled the number of watchers though, rhythm gacha shill stream without gacha pulling won't attract much tourists.

>>15691141
>The top 3 'race to 1 million' songs will all feature Gura soon
>Barring an upset, the top 3 will all feature Gura and Mori once Q comes out

Just what is it about Pink and Blue?

Noel with 2k waiting room
and 500 likes

Pokemon just like yesetrday

>>15691264
Overlapping with kpop fans.

holoEN vs nijiEN total subs & views

>>15690975
It doesn't help that the horns are like that, and the hair is also weirdly spread out.

>>15691228
The thing is, I thought it would be the other way around.
It would be 5-6k + what she normally gets because if you looked at the relay numbers yesterday, everyone got like a free 5k viewers.

Nene should not be getting a barely better number than Eli for example, who got 5x what she normally gets (she's a 3-digit niji)
>>15690484

>>15691309
>Gura has a million and a half more subs than all of NijiEN combined
>Mori has 2.5x the views

>>15691309
Deadsubs vs loyal fans