/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>15680432
>takes an entire month off because doggerino dies
gee I wonder why she's so behind in subs.

Does she deserve to have more subs? She doesn't seem to chase after them.

>you will be the black vtuber
>you will intentionally do the worst

What gets me is that the councilwhores don't even really seem to understand why they're lagging behind so much. This shit is why china is overtaking the west. All you have to do is do your fucking job and you don't even do that half the time. Like what is with Kronii's fucking stream schedule? Does Fauna even exist?

>>15680432
stupid nigger

>>15680432
>Get privilege being in EN
>Dosen't capitalize it early on

Gee i wonder why

>>15680557
Doesn't matter, they're all trash anyway.

fuck you teehee

>tfw sana has the least streams of any holomem outside of ayame

Myth is all about vod views. The sub counts mean nothing because for superchats and live views they're drastically below for how many subscribers they have. Council is different, they have less clippers and a smaller fanbase that actually watches live streams. They are fairly normal for a vtuber while Myth is an outlier in the entire market. Its safe to assume that holomyth fans are not fans of vtubing as a whole, so it makes sense that girls outside of myth would have far less subs and views.

>>15680432
>have a shit design debuff
>have a shit accent debuff
>stop streaming at a crucial time

I don't want her gone since she's already taken the spot that could have been someone else's but how do you even go about fixing this?

>>15680974

>>15680974
You guys attribute too much to superchats. Your pocket money is more or less meaningless to Cover. Fame is much more important because fame translates into merchandising opportunities and collaborations with other companies.
Gura may have a disproportionate amount of subs compared to her live viewers but fact of the matter is that she's the most famous vtuber world wide so she's one of the most important assets of Cover and the same can be said for the rest of Myth except to a lesser degree.

Case in point, who were the ones marketed for that recent earphone thing? Sora, the face of "idol" Hololive and Gura, the actual face of Hololive on the international stage.

>>15680974
Majority of that dumbass shit you said straight up contradicts the other shit you said, just shut the hell up.

>>15680557
If the chuubas are trash at keeping up with their job requirements, then the fault is on the selection process and the recruiter for selecting a bunch of flaky, unreliable menheras.

But maybe you'd prefer they "work hard" and end up like Matsuri, Nene, and Marine.

the funny thing is sana herself doesn't care about her numbers much at all, so please sanalites, learn to be more like your oshi. she's not worried about her popularity and so should you

>>15681651
They're probably mostly young posters and think about week-to-week bills and not career opportunities.

>>15680499
She was already last, so she might as well do it. Also, she isn't American, so it's actually normal for her to have feelings.

>>15682028
>Matsuri, Nene, and Marine
What's wrong with them?

>>15682144
Even here in socialist Scandinavia, you don't take a whole month off work just because a pet died. Society would collapse if everyone did that.

>>15682121
>sanallites
>implying

>>15680974
Most myth subs are obviously dead subs from the golden age, who just trend hop memes and hype because big number go up. A dip for Council was to be expected

>>15682165
>Matsuri
Got addicted to APEX, had multiple incidents of drama when she made clumsy advances towards other male and female streamers, fell into depression pit.
>Nene
Was the hard working goofy idol girl until she had a nervous breakdown from overwork(possibly close to suicidal). Rushed to hospital by Polka, because Polka recognized the signs from her own history of menhera.
>Marine
Overworked her voice forcing herself to take a medical hiatus but still worked and streamed during the "break", causing further damage.

>>15682144
Can I take a month off work because my goldfish died? I have feelings too and he meant a lot to me :(

>>15681073
Calling her design bad is a bit much. Think its fine

>>15682028
Or maybe they could not be retarded and be fine like Watame (who will get more health problems from eating chips at 3AM rather than streaming), all of those cases were legitimately their own fault

>>15683144
Well, unfortunately most people seem to disagree with you.

EOP burgerfag here. I have zero complaints about blonde, tan, big tiddy, heavy accent aussie women.

She had a lucrative career prior to Hololive, she doesn't need the job at all.
Not to say it excuses her behavior but she really doesn't need it.

And its not just the dog stuff to be honest, she also took off for like 2 weeks recently, first her cause was getting remodeled then for like 8 days for Christmas.

>>15684336
weird cause most people outside of /vt/ thinks her design is at worst fine

>>15684537
I still can’t figure out the ratio of ironic to unironic dark skin jokes.

>>15684537
That's because people outside of this place don't criticize holos unless it's for some schizo shit.

>Vanishes for a month
>Complete radio silence during this person, not even a members message
>Returns, says if her fans had problems with what she did they can go fuck themselves
>Vanishes yet again after one week of pokemon streams.

She's made no effort to connect with fans, she hasn't had a single moment that's meant to endear you to her either, or even that oen amazing stream people can point to as a defining moment.
Its not 2020 anymore, the EN market is enormous, why waste your time with someone who makes it obvious she doesn't give a single fuck about Hololive or her fans.

>>15680432
>i-it’s the brown skin
>i-it’s the accent
Now that there’s a girl that does all those things right, can we stop making excuses and just admit that Sana just sucks dick, and probably not even as good as Sara does, either?

>>15684836
I live for the day when Sara overtakes Sana and proves the dark skin is not a debuff after all. I want my chocco vtubers.

>>15685262
It's not the dark skin about Sana's design that's bad you faggots. It's everything else and the people that have an issue with the darker skin tone it's only due to the implication of "diversity" pandering. People have always loved tanned anime girls cause they are hot and their skin contrasts the colour of our cum so they look beautiful drenched in it.

>>15684767
And here schizos grasp at straws and cling onto drama rendering even some decent criticisms unsalvageable. You can't win anywhere on the Internet.

>>15680432
Imagine getting the opportunity to be a vtuber for one of the two largest vtuber companies and not even trying once you get in

If her model didn't look like it was ripped from AA2 and if she actually streamed maybe she'd be doing better.

>>15685647
>it's only due to the implication of "diversity" pandering
This implication didn't happen, it's more about her color scheme not meshing with her skin tone and her rig being less than ideal.

>>15684782
>Complete radio silence during this person, not even a members message
She appeared in multiple collabs during her break, anon. That's not radio silence as much as you want to spin it that way.

>>15685863
What do you mean it didn't happen?
It happens automatically. SJW niggers, faggots and cunts have done so much damage to society that whenever something like this happens the implication is automatically pandering whether it's true or not.

But to be fair, that's definitely at least part of the story here. Sana by herself would have been fine but then they dropped Omega. A genderless twitter spokesperson. That's not fucking coincidence doesn't matter how much they wanna pretend it wasn't made for the genderfluid/non-binary alphabet faggots and the intended crowd jumped on it immediately.

i'd watch her more if her content was more diverse and wasn't all endurance streams of boring games

>>15686673
People are gonna latch onto anything to claim diversity, anon. I agree Omega isn't helping, but I don't think most casual watchers even know he exists anymore. The people that know he exists treat him like a moron most of the time, that's kind of it.

>>15685945
Radio silents towards her fans dumbass, did she interact with you in any way? Did she even tweet once? You could argue she cares about holomembers but she doesn't seem to care about her fanbase if that's how she treats them

>>15684336
If IRyS can get subs with her debuff model, so can Sana.

>>15680432
maybe if she cries on stream some about her numbers she'll get clipped like Aki did, a pump and dump would be good for her sub count

>>15686993
All I'm saying is that thanks to all these retarded "movements" to "fix" the world, people have developed animosity towards anything that can even remotely be perceived as having to do with any form of minority because they fear the implications of what may come next and they don't want their hobby to be destroyed like 90% of western entertainment.
I guarantee you that the majority of people screaming "REEEEEEE NIGGER" at Sana do so because of this fear.

90% all this Sana hate is by seething 2views about her wasting her spot in Hololive.

Watched a bunch of her stuff pre-break and a bit post-break. She still has a hard time really connecting with fans and viewers in a real way and her interaction in general is still reeeaaaallllyyyy stiff with the fans.

>I guarantee you that the majority of people screaming "REEEEEEE NIGGER" at Sana do so because of this fear.
they do it because they're shitposters baiting for (You)s and they're successful 90% of the time, just don't engage

>>15688672
shit, meant for >>15687652

>>15685945
Yes in collabs. IE not directly interacting or mentioning her fans.

I like Sana's comfy, extended streams. If you don't then that's okay too. Cheers, mates!

I really tried to like her but she's just too boring and annoying

>>15687902
This makes a lot of sense.

>>15684782
The "fuck you" was specifically intended for people who said she shouldn't take a break. Those people weren't fans.

>>15682144
It's normal to feel sad if your pet dog dies. Taking a month off over it is completely unheard off. Anyone I know would think you have severe mental issues if you did that. Even a week is on the extreme end of the scale.

>>15680432
You can always be stupid and send SC to remind her of her low numbers and that she deserves better. I sure she would love the constant reminder.

As someone who loves him some dark skin sex goddess, Sana's design as a whole is fucking terrible. picrel

>>15680499
Not a holobrony so I honestly don't know, but is this just a dumb rrat people fixated on and repeated so much we all assume it's true, or is this actually what happened? I find it hard to believe someone would take an entire month off for that reason alone. I could see them cancelling a stream and changing their schedule a bit, but an entire month? Nah, had to be more to it than that.

>>15684836
I love Sara and think she's brown done right, but corporations shouldn't even be taking this risk without the roommate's okay. Why risk decreasing profit from a chuuba because of a choice of hue?

>>15690149
It's the official story that Sana tweeted. Whether or not it was her actual dog is up for debate, she was taking so long to return some anons started speculating her "dog" was actually her ex boyfriend.

>>15690149
We can only speculate what "actually" happened, but something to note as a fellow Aussie is that at the time much of the country was on lockdown with two week quarantines on international or interstate travel. When you realise she was gone for only like two or three days more than that, it suggests she had to spend a good chunk of time in quarantine after travelling somewhere far from her usual home (which is probably in WA by her apparent timezone). Who can say whether that was reasonable action to take or whether the stated reason was the actual one but Occam's razor says it's not nearly the wild horse shit anons spout off with

>>15689043

>>15690149
Anon she's a woman they take breaks over everything

>>15687563
IRyS is a godlike singer and has the best personality in EN though. Not really comparable lol.

>>15690710
Why not just do random twitcasts? Those are usually good for when a streamer wants to stay in touch without leaving their bed to stream. JPs do it all the time.

>>15683144
Bro, just compare her to Gen 6 please and realize how wrong you are. Yeah, it might look good in a vacuum or in another context, but look at what she's up against.

>>15680557
They only lag behind because youtube deliberately deletes their subs to keep them down.

>>15687652
Yeah it's pretty ironic. I do find myself thinking in these terms whenever I see a movie with a large black cast etc for example and I never did before 2016. They're radicalizing people in the opposite direction because of how retarded they are.

>>15691038
>I do find myself thinking in these terms whenever I see a movie with a large black cast etc for example
Even when this is done in a logical setting, like Black Panther, people go out of their way to rave about how fucking good it is when it's really barely above average. But the whole cast is black so if you say it's anything less than great you're a racist.

>>15689665
She's a girl and her whole job depends on being genki. Personally, I get it, but it's still unfortunate.

>>15690924
happened to HoloX too, but they bounced back

>>15692186
if her job is to be genki, but her genki is so fragile it can so easily be broken, why hire her in the first place?

her streams are nice and comfy.
But after holoen gen1 exploded on YT they have been a bit unfair to gen2 thinking a lot of the subs are alts which I do not see no where near as much as I do on twitch.

>>15680432
>debuff design
>disappears for ages
>no draw streams, not even astrology, just boring games
I really like her personality but that's all she has going for her. She'll have to step it up if she cares about numbers.

>>15692367
>easily
It's a dog, a living thing that crackers think have real feelings like their own. She basically lost a relative.

>>15692543
That's funny because she's asian, just not one of your hive.

I regret the $50 in SC I sent for her monetization. This is what I get for wanting to support an underdog.

>>15692578
Don’t CCP bug eat dogs?

>>15682028
Nene and Marine are fine though. Marine's problem is that she streams too much and fucks up her voice, Nene was going through a crisis of confidence because she felt like she was the last in her generation. Ironically, the opposite of Council's problem where they feel no pressure besides being confused why their sub growth is so shitty.

Ask Pekora to save her.

>>15692543
>>15692186
She didn't even live with the dog, she has her own house and lives away from her parents. The dog was the dog that her family owned when she lived with them.

>>15692578
I'm not a chink, gook, nip, or seanigger (or nigger for that matter), I just don't think a dog's soul is worth as much as a human soul. I wouldn't go out of my way to kill one, but I wouldn't take a bullet for one either. That being said, 50% of children of nonwhites in white countries turn out to be basically brown white people (typically of the retarded variety because their parent's aren't politically minded enough to counter the brainwashing). My little sister REFUSES to say "nigger", it's kind of cringe.
>>15692751
And?

>>15684836
Please don't use Sara for shitposting, she is a sweet girl and loves her fans.

>>15692247
Well, Chloe and Lapus did. Lapus had cunny energy and she was also the first to debut, so she had those bonuses. Chloe just had to say "pwease subswide, guys" and all the clippers spread that, which lead to masses of random saviors subbing to her.

Imagine that the illustration she drew herself is better than the prepared L2D

>>15682144
This is what burgers actually think about the world outside of their country. Zadornov was correct about them.

>>15680432
Give her a new non stupid unwatchable model and we will see.

>>15687510
She said to the audience that she was doing alright during the first collab, so yes. You're too desperate to play the victim here, anon.

>>15680432
stupid OP no one can save her, she can only save herself, retirement imminent.

>>15680557
ironically 90% are asians.... with chink roots... Damn westoid culture is really bad eh?

i'm not proud to admit i'm subbed to every holomem except sana. honestly, it's just the skin color. i'm sure she's nice enough but i'm a chud and i don't do the whole dark skin thing. i'm obviously not alone in this.

>>15697881
Why are you OK with Flare and Oga then?

>>15698391
they're just tanned

>>15680432
Ibuprofen and living with it. Only take ibuprofen when if I'm trying to sleep or it's too distracting.

>>15692639
>>15692578
Man fuck off with this shit, even in the shittiest hellhole of asian countries, we wouldn't eat dog, you have to crawl in some rural forest village to be able to find that shit and places that have a slight bit of civilization forbid these kind of practice, yes even for fucking china, you ignorant piece of shit.

>>15698530
Sure thing, zhang.

>>15682823
>be a millionaire
>nooooooo playing video games for 1 hour a day in my air conditioned room is too hard im gonna kill myself
what a bunch of children

>>15682823
>Matsuri
Don't forget almost everyone calling her deadweight and shit during the games, both as a player and a commentator

>>15680780
>tfw sana has more hours streamed then her Genmates even with her taking a month off

>>15698894
When did that happen

>>15698995
I kneel.......

>>15698995
and this is why nijiEN is taking over, holoEN is donezo.

>>15680432
should have tried being white

>>15697881
Kill yourself

Maybe she should stop doing retarded marathon streams of boring-ass games like ACNH and Pokemon. Idk though.

Ina killer Ina killer!! The Gura killer curse got her. Anyways this bitch doesn’t draw on stream like ina so that just means to me she isnt as passionate about it only does it for money.

>>15684782
Either you haven't paid attention to her at all or are deeply retarded.

Firstly, she didn't even want to do the hiatus, but was in pretty bad spirits over her pet, a family dog they'd had for over a decade. Management literally told her to take as much time off as she wants and to come back to stream when she was feeling better.

She flew home to see her family and spend time with them.

Her last week off was literally over the holidays.

Her job isn't some all important service job where society might crumble if she leaves her post. She's a streamer, people will live.

Not to mention - she took a hiatus from "streaming". She still worked behind the scenes and even appeared in the holo among us Collab as well as the Halloween Collab. She even helped with the artwork for that last Collab.

As for not interacting with her fans - you clearly haven't seen her streams then.

She literally invited chat twice to her animal crossing island yesterday, and before that she was naming Pokemon after chat. She regularly reads chat and SCs during streams.

Take your meds at once.

>>15680499
Have you no empathy? fucking bug.

>>15680499
She was behind in subs from the getgo. Her subs got kneecapped at last twice by YouTube within the first few days.

It's a shame because personally I find her way more fun and endearing than at least half of her genmates.

>>15698530
I've seen multiple webms of chinese people having herds of dogs in backrooms of restaurants. When someone asks for dogmeat, the chefs pull one out one of the dogs and kill it with a fucking club in front of the other dogs. A scared dog "tastes better", apparently.

>>15680432
She may live in Aussie land but she isnt Aussie.

>>15698813
Link your stream, anon. Let's see your talent.

>>15701095
This desu, the proper term is aboriginal

>>15687902
To be fair I'd be seething like a maniac if I was in 6th place or something. Imagine being a finalist and seeing this shit.

>>15701144
>>15687902
They should be happy she ate the brown chuuba slot so they don't have to.

>>15701259
Is Sana's skin colour really holding her back or is that just a meme?

Sell me on this Sana here, what's the point of watching her? What does she offer?

>>15701118
Holy based

>>15701721
She's brown and Australian and cute and enthusiastic. She's a lovable ball of fun that will put a smile on anyone's face.

>>15695434
Nah…

>>15680432
This is what happens when you're half seanig.

>>15701721
Genki gamer autism

>>15700747
>She literally invited chat twice to her animal crossing island yesterda
Anon come on, IT WAS FUCKING THREE TIMES! Do YOU even watch stream!?

She should be last. She offers nothing interesting to HoloEN.

>>15680432
>Streams erratically at best
>Has second worst avatar in hololive
>Has aussie accent hasn't said cunt once to my knowledge
And you wonder why her numbers are shit.

>>15685647
It's a simple fact that most people prefer pale skin tones, especially on women. Hell, even within dark-skinned communities lighter tones of skin is regarded as more beautiful. On online dating sites/apps the trend is the same: Dark-skinned women have much lower rates of response than lighter-skinned ones.
That doesn't mean every single person in the entire world prefers pale women, but it does mean that audiences on average will respond less enthusiastically to models like Sana's.
It's a debuff. Not impossible to overcome, but it's definitely not helping either.

And just to be clear, I'm not saying that this is Sana's fault or that it's fair in any way. It's not dissimilar from women preferring tall men. It's just how it is and we ought to come to terms with it rather than deny it.

>>15682144
>she isn't American, so it's actually normal for her to have feelings.

>>15697309
Do you think culture is genetic and not environmental or something? Kiara and Mori work the hardest and they’ve both lived in Japan. Enough said.

>>15698894
Nobody ever did this, if anything she even got a little overrated when people were getting given ratings for tournaments and the like. She even performed surprisingly well in at least one tournament that comes to mind.

>>15691038
You never watched Will Smoth movies? Not even the Pursuit of Happiness? What about TV series? I don't even live in the US and I can think of a few.

>>15700747
>Firstly, she didn't even want to do the hiatus
>Management literally told her to take as much time off as she wants
Kek

>>15701683

>>15692367
Nepotism

>>15700976
Chinks are retarded. A quick painless death is always the best for any kind of meat.

>>15680432
I hate her model, is so ugly

>>15680432
>youtube auto-deleted 1/2 their subs
>youtube did 2/3 of that for Sana
>debut day was delayed due to EN curse
>racist retards """"""""confused"""""""" gyaru for black
>left for a month due to grieving and aftermath from such

Sana got JUSTed as fuck

Are Holobronies the SJWs of vtuber fans?
Sana doing poorly and all they can do is cry about MUH RACISM and how there needs to be more equality when Sana's just lazy.

>>15707113
because the disparity literally happened before anyone uploaded anything. she was working with 60% of the subs compared to her genmates before the debut.

>>15707235
Good, hopefully cover learned their lesson.

>>15680432
I've tried watch Sana a ton of times but she's just annoying. Everything from games to social interactions just flies over her head. It is in many ways ironic she the personification of a large, universe destroying gravity well because everything escapes her.

>>15707447
Yeah, she's just an incredibly boring and passionless streamer. Her pokemon and animal crossing streams are just long stretches of dead air, something not even amateur vtubers can get away from without losing viewers. When she does speak it's the most inane stuff ever, nothing she says is every interesting or important.

Overall if you're looking to be entertained, you can literally click anyone else and have more fun.

>>15707113
Fuck off falseflagger

>>15680557
>This shit is why china is overtaking the west
Chingchong yourself

>>15680432
Fewest not least.

>>15684658
I stopped trying during the elections, they might as well be the same at this point

>>15680432
nigger debuff nigger. Can't be helped.

>>15680432
I'm sorry anon but i can't understand 80% of what she's saying
i will never watch her again

I can't remember single memorable thing Sana did

>>15692688
And this is why we needed Coco.

Fuck China. Nuke China.

>>15707890
She called Kroniis personality dry

>>15680432
>ugly
>lazy
>grating voice
>shit taste in games
>astrology
>the only thing she's good at (drawing) isn't being put to use
There's literally nothing good about this turd. She deserves even less subs and views.

>>15700747
>dog died
Sex boyfriend
>visiting family
Sex with boyfriend
>holidays
Sex with boyfriend
>working behind the scenes
Sex with boyfriend

>>15698530
kys bug

Sana is a genius
By being the lowest subbed holoEN girl, she will always get to host the big collabs and take in the big money from them
Intentionally throwing to win in the late game

>>15698530
Oh fuck off bugman we know how shitty your backwards whore country is Zhang

>>15680499
Don't forget the other unexplained break she took like a week after debut, right before she got monetized

i know this bitch irl and she's 130kg which is about 300 pounds. shes also white and cringe

Despite being at such comparatively low subscribers to the other Holos, she still brings in some decent that keeps her competitive. There’s many such cases like with Flare, Anya, Luna, and Kiara that you can be the weakest of your gen but have some of the most loyal supporters.

>>15709365
You just described Polka and she's fucking awesome though.

>>15692688
>besides being confused why their sub growth is so shitty.
Source on any Council being confused over that? I find hard to believe that they give a single shit about their subs.

>>15706909
It seems bad but the you realize she is still doing better than 99% of streamers and her numbers when live streaming are about the same as everyone else.

Also Bae is way better then the Ditz and Big Tits Mcgee

>>15711075
>her numbers when live streaming are about the same as everyone else
Why lie? Sana's CCV is roughly half of what the second worst Council. By the way her SCs isn't that great either, Chloe beat her entire lifetime earning on her first monetized stream.

>>15682252
>socialist Scandinavia
fuck off

>>15711288
It's not a lie, 1.5k to 2k average isn't bad. Doom saying and all that might be fun but let's be real, she's doing fine

>>15711075
>Also Bae is way better then the Ditz and Big Tits Mcgee
Can't agree.
Mumei>Kronii>Fauna>Bae

>>15710042
I would fuck Polka and it would be awesome also

>>15712639
>>>/vt/architecture

>>15712577
The sleepy trio is better then crack mouse? Go fucking drink nyquil man

>>15680432
A Gayniggers from Outer Space watchalong would boost her numbers

>>15711807
It's absolutely a lie, Bae, Fauna, Ame and Kiara all have at least double Sana's CCV. She is doing fine by indie standards, she is not doing fine by holo standards, why would we compare a Holo to indies instead of other Holos?

>>15701683
It contributes, but as someone that isn't bothered by her skin color, her game choices and lack of streaming personality eventually drove me away.

So people are either repelled by her skin tone, and/or her personality in general. She's a perfect storm of illogical/and reasonable debuffs.

>>15680432
fuck you teehee

>>15714995
This.

She either picks garbage no one likes like Metroid or Rhythm Heaven, or bland sterile stuff made to appeal to the masses like Pokemon and Animal Crossing

>>15706327
>Do you think culture is genetic and not environmental
It is both.

>>15680432
Her only purpose is to make Akirose and Anya somewhat better

>>15713875
>She is doing fine by indie standards
I hate it when people fucking say this because they don't know what being a fucking indie means. Hololive has fucking poisoned your brains when it comes to numbers.

If you don't like a holo why even bother coming here to whinge about them? Just like watch somebody else.

It's funny to me that Sana did the
>if you don't like it leave
Shit with the numbers she has.

>>15717066
oh, I actually enjoyed her rhythm heaven and metroid streams a lot.
But i'm genuinely hating this Pokemon arc she's been on, and other games she's been playing lately.

>>15680499
>a fucking month

>>15680432
>Is space
>Has the closests subscriber relation to stars of all Hololive girls
Deepest lore

>>15719563
Because they're rejected applicants who think she took their spot

>>15680432
thats kinda just what happens when you don't stream during your entire fucking honeymoon period

>>15701721
With her having the least amount of subs and viewers she is able to interact with them is a different way compared to the other HoloEN members. She is also pretty autistic with the games she plays and loves looking for secrets. She's also another endurance streamer to watch if you don't like watching Kiara or Mori.

>>15680499
>>15680432
There's more:
>Worst design (not her fault) and art of the avatar, way worse than anything she can draw herself, mogging her day 1
>ONE MONTH BREAK FOR A DOG LET'S GOOO
>streams are seldom
>Has two breaks in December, one week long, another 10 day long for no fucking reason
>streams are mostly long-ass endurance streams no one cares about
>chat is mostly greynames, almost no members appear in chat

Sure, she got mogged by her design, but she does literally nothing to bounce back. If I were to guess she might be the first holoEN to graduate. She doesn't seem to enjoy streaming at all

If she does several endurance streams with a memeable gimmick, she would be """saved.""" Being a holo is easy mode.

>>15680557
I could have told you council was gonna be mid just from the debuts.

>>15680974
>smaller fanbase that actually watches live streams
So where does this apply to Sana? Because she’s low in both?

>>15684836
Normally I would say switch Sara for Sana but if Sara was in Hololive she would be neutered and a lot more boring so keep Sara.

>>15687902
Is this how Holobronies cope? Talking about imaginary Vtubers

>>15719563
This is the “Holoboard” remember? We’re supposed to talk about Hololive. You guys have a problem with it now?

>>15680432
nobody likes niggers, why is this a thread

>>15723727
seems like she's trying to negate this chat interaction buff by forcing other ENs to sit in her streams with her and force small talk between them.

I love sana but I do think that she would be just as happy just being a random 10view. Seems like she has enough money and just want to have fun.

>>15723989
>If I were to guess she might be the first holoEN to graduate.
I hope you're right, not like she is adding anything relevant to Hololive anyway.

>>15680432
hair design doesn't fit skin color
weird voice, like she has a lisp or something

>>15706565
I think you misunderstood. I meant I never thought in those terms (as in, are these people diversity hires?) before 2016. Obviously I've watched movies and shows with black people in them, but back in the day it was just assumed that they were cast for their ability and how well they fit the role, not because of "anti-racist" wokeism reasons.

>>15686673
Proof they dropped Omega?

>its another Sana thread about sub count

we have this daily. please go back to hating kiara or laughing at Aki Rose

>>15705088
Who’s first worst?

>>15729555
Your oshi

Sana just mogged every shiny hunt

Do you like chocolate milk?

>>15680432
nah fuck you op. Disregard numbers and embrace fan loyalty. Consider that Flare is the "runt" of her Generation but consistently punches above her weight when it comes to superchat earnings. Kiara is like this too, through fan interaction and lots of stream hours she has extremely loyal fans who support her through thick and thin.

Sana is doing fine honestly, I hope she sticks with it and tries to enjoy herself, let the others go crazy chasing trends.

>>15729186
At least there was so much material with Kiara. Her tweets, her general attitude, her ESL misunderstandings, TakaMori, the numberfagging - one could twist or misinterpret her actions to make her seem like a bitch worthy of hate.
Sana is just an autistic Aussie who possesses no ego and wants to have fun. Anti threads just come off as mean-spirited for no reason.

>>15680432
>brown skin
>laid back personality
>can't understand her mouth words
200k is pretty impressive considering.

Trash vtuber. Just replce her with Sara. I don't think anyone would even notice. Fuck you Sana teehee

>>15753366
>replce her with Sara
forr god sakes anon stop forcing Sara into any discussion of Sana
I like her too, she's comfy and har 2view status makes chat interaction more frequent, but if your goal is to get people to view her, then don't do attack ads

it's /vt/ kneeling on sana again...

DAGGER BROS, WE KEEP WINNING

>>15755611
You're not talking to a mentally sound individual, anon