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>> No.15633981

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.15633988

HAG LOVE

>> No.15634007

Give the numbers back SUSAN.

>> No.15634053

Keep on grinding Lui-nee. The future looks bright for you.

>> No.15634080

Pakora killed hololive and Laplus tapdanced on its corpse

>> No.15634095
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1m get

>> No.15634098

>Gura at 18K on a New Year Stream
>Mousey at 24K
KNEEEEEEEEEEELLLL

>> No.15634117

LMAO HOLOKEKS STILL CCV COPING?

>> No.15634121

>Cull is real
>It saved Holo's monthly gold
This is some monkey paw shit. Watamage, I want to get off this wild ride.

>> No.15634197

>>15634098
JPschizo will not like this

>> No.15634203

>>15634098
No one here will ever acknowledge Twitch numbers.
>>15634117
39

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15634215

>lui mogged by calli in scs too
wkwk

>> No.15634227

>>15634095
400k decline? Is it NY there now?

>> No.15634289

Past few days managed to kill my enthusiasm for numberfagging.
I wish I could strangle that Susan bitch and her pajeet coders

>> No.15634323

>>15634203
>the cull is real
>NJU number was accurate
Fucking pick one holobronies. You lose either way.

>> No.15634326
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>>15633812
Lots of raids

>> No.15634338

>>15634227
>24k gone reduced to atoms

>> No.15634369

>>15633962
I dont get it

>> No.15634391

Koyori's waiting room was bigger than Laplus and Lui's peaks. kek

>> No.15634437

>>15634326
Stayed at 23K, better numbers than Gura kek.

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15634457

reclining...

>> No.15634478

>>15634323
NJU got culled by 40 views exactly

>> No.15634510

>>15634323
Cull accurate for normal numbers but is overcome by high numbers, explaining all the record breaking CCV streams
Your move nijinigger

>> No.15634506

>>15634338
Did you reply to the wrong person?

>> No.15634514

>NYE 2022 stream with 1.25 million CCV has a slower chat than Gura or Ame's streams with 18k viewers

bros... think of the millions being culled right now...

>> No.15634559

>>15634215
>wkwk
Hello fellow Malaysian SEAfaggot
>>15634323
Cull is real but you don't multiply a theoretical multiplier to numbers

>> No.15634622

>>15634323
Not everyone is getting culled. You can notice it by looking at viewers to likes ration.

>> No.15634667

>>15634437
Not really, Gura beat it, Ina matched ti, Gura karaoke will shit on it

>> No.15634696

>>15634326
Sykkuno could have raided Lily or Toast, but instead chose Mouse

>> No.15634708

>>15634514
Holo is getting culled by 99%...

>> No.15634711

>>15633962
VSHOJO is going to dominate Hololive in 2022

>> No.15634772

>>15634696
if gura was on twitch he would raid her

>> No.15634798
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15634798

Holobro, maybe we can only numberfag SC/stream from now on

>> No.15634805

>>15634711
I feel like I heard this last year

>> No.15634878

everyone who participated in the christmas relay got culled. youtube probably flagged all of them

>> No.15634896

>>15634667
>Gura karaoke will shit on it
many times

>> No.15634900

>>15634772
I doubt it, he's likely done with Gura for not returning the attention & shilling

>> No.15634911

>>15634798
>numberfagging money
I'd like that. Poorfags are not human anyway. Their views are nothing

>> No.15634933

>>15634805
They hardly got 5 digits last year, now they are.

>> No.15635050

>>15634798
We always win on subcount anyway

>> No.15635071

>>15634911
how dare you insult Pekoschizo like this

>> No.15635085
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>> No.15635092

>>15634798
This thread will just turn into Chloe general

>> No.15635102
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>>15634798
Or--get this--we can stop constantly obsessing over the numbers of literal millionaires who have clearly shown they care more about creating interesting, engaging, and fun content than about maximizing statistics that will make them slightly more money than the hundreds of thousands they're already raking in.

Maybe CCV being entirely fucked for both EN and JP will finally let people appreciate Hololive for what it's meant to be: entertainment and connecting with people from across the world.

>> No.15635125

>>15634900
lets not kid ourselves. gura being on twitch would enable raids from everyone

>> No.15635137

Does anyone know if Mio overlapped with last year's new year costumes too?

>> No.15635163

I LOVE YOU KOYORIN

>> No.15635191

>>15635092
Or Rushia.
>>15635102
I hate you for spitting out facts in the numbers thread

>> No.15635194

>>15635137
She did, all of them.

>> No.15635212

>>15635085
Fubuki will get 2 mil sub before Mori does

>> No.15635303

>>15635102
That's rich of you but this is the NUMBERS thread. Go write your blog on twitter.

>> No.15635313

>>15635163
Koyori doing the classic way for an outfit reveal, truly a Holofag.

>> No.15635318

It's still 2021 here. Can someone warn holo jp their numbers will be shit next year?

>> No.15635321

>Koyori already passing Laplus
Wouldn't have known it from their usual respective CCVs

>> No.15635339

Even the CCV cull from dec 2020 wasn't this bad. It's like Susan is attacking only Hololive when they are already paying a lot from 30% SCs. Why the fuck are they doing this?

>> No.15635343

>311k views
>YT hasn't even finished loading then in, let alone the views from those that missed it
Another easy 1 million for Goowa

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15635404

My wife!!

>> No.15635453

That's it. If Nene doesn't get 30k, I'd consider the cull to be conclusively proven.

>> No.15635464

>>15635339
It was, you clearly didn't watch EN streams jpnigger.

>> No.15635478

So Ironmouse takes the first gold of 2022?

Fitting since VShojo is now officially the face of EN Vtubers after thr moggening of Holo

>> No.15635490

Chloe is on 4.6k and gura is on 5.9k. will this be 6's major upset

>> No.15635493

>>15635085
The shining buff is over, but pekora is on a slight reclining period too, can fubuki retake her crowd?

>> No.15635531

Koyori please get 4k more.
I don't want to kneel to a 26k Nijinoon.
NJU was deserved a kneel, but this is just too much for me.

>> No.15635542

>15635102
imagine preaching in a numbers thread

>> No.15635552
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>>15635343

>> No.15635629
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>>15635478
>VShojo is now officially the face of EN Vtubers
This is the future we deserve, the face of vtubing are literal whores now who leech off of reddit Twitch cliques

>> No.15635703

>>15635478
I for one can't wait for the next year to be filled with "Vshojo has surpassed Hololive" narratives day in and day out

>> No.15635745

>>15635493
nope, the hype for her shining hunt has die down after fishing the gold karp....plus other holos also suddenly been catching shiny on stream outta nowhere especially lamy who just caught two gold karp in two stream

>> No.15635759

>>15635478
Based

>> No.15635761

>>15635629
Better get used to it Holokeks, degeneracy alwats wins at the end.

>> No.15635774

30 minute 20k ccv streams with 100k+ immediate post-stream views. Okay.

>> No.15635785

>>15635478
>twitch numbers
I sleep

>> No.15635795

Man they shafted Gura with the worst time slot of the day

>> No.15635798

>>15635703
only for the numbers to be looked at and it turns out that holo wins

>> No.15635870

>>15635795
Still going to shit all over holox outfit reveals

>> No.15635902

>>15635795
and she will still take gold, for EN at least

>> No.15635922

>>15635703
If this happens, I hope Holos start streaming games on Twitch. In fact, splitting streaming time between Twitch and Youtube this year might be a great idea, particularly for EN

>> No.15635959

27K for Koyori

>> No.15635978

>>15635453
The cull was put in by a Nekko to make sure Nene gets gold.

>> No.15635981

>>15635795
Still going to shit all over Holox outfit reveals, Vshojo and the Pokemon tournament

>> No.15635983

>>15635478
got raided by a 15-20k viewer streamer zzzzzzzzzzz

>> No.15635998

>>15635464
If we watched streams we wouldn't be numberfagging, faggot

>> No.15636002

Holy.. this is so luxurious, might be my fav NY outfit

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15636004

Consolation prize at least...

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15636015

All you had to do was stream on damn the Christmas Eve, Pakora

>> No.15636034

Ffs koyori why do it so fast?

>> No.15636074

Is it just me or no increase of speed on the graph when teasing outfit, unlike past new outfits streams?

>> No.15636078

>>15635870
I dunno, she only has 7k waiting, the others today had more. Gura karaokes incline the more they last but this is overlapped by outfit, way out of primetime, short

>> No.15636081

>>15635478
Already mogged.

>> No.15636087

27k peak. Also, this outfit is great. But you should've edged it more, you stupid koyote.

>> No.15636094

>Koyori has a shot at gold
What

>> No.15636099

>>15635478
Over Gura's dead body.

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>>15635983
totes legit ccv graph

>> No.15636102

Too fast Koyorin, drag it out! You're fucking cute tho.

>> No.15636119

>2 minutes showcase
And they said Koyori was a numberfag

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15636123

>Koyori already got new outfits
>Petra doesn't get anything
Kek

>> No.15636146

>>15636074
The teasing period was short.
These numbers still look kind of fucked though.

>> No.15636145

>>15636094
Aint 99k the gold today?

>> No.15636159

>>15636099
no don't say that i don't want her to die

>> No.15636158

>>15636034
they only have 30 minutes anon, at least it's not literally at the start like laplus. i think it's a good amount of time. Any more and she won't be able to talk about all the details

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>> No.15636208

>>15636145
it counts for yesterday anon

>> No.15636221

>>15636100
Cope and seethe Holofaggots.
Your fault for using a platform without raiding

>> No.15636226

>>15636099
Mouse's dead body seems a lot more likely, all things considered

>> No.15636244

Chloe at 1m yen before even starting lel

>> No.15636246

>>15635321
Cant look at numbers in a vacuum, it's about context anon.

>> No.15636262

>>15636171
39, Nijifaggot

>> No.15636283

>>15636100
>raided, collab buffed vwhorejo can’t even beat holo stream RTAs in worst environment they’ve ever had
rumao

>> No.15636337

>>15636262
Still can’t beat Koshien 2020

>> No.15636351

>>15636221
out of all of en in fell that Gura would benefit the most from an unmoderated raid party

>> No.15636349

Orca gold for today then?

>> No.15636357

>>15636244
Orca too OP please nerf

>> No.15636384

Former holobrony here; it's fucking hilarious watching hololive crash and burn, but seriously we can't let Pakora give us cold chicken for Christmas.

>> No.15636416

>>15636262
Not sure why you're bringing up nijishits when 20k outfit reveal is literally nijishit tier, EN mogs them just like they mog JP

>> No.15636454

>>15636351
she would be in OTV's raiding party without a doubt

>> No.15636461

>>15636384
Pekozhang please. Maybe write s

>> No.15636478
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15636478

totally normal peak for an outfit reveal, yup

>> No.15636480

>>15636349
iroha / nene got a chance no ?

>> No.15636479

>>15636384
sure you do, pekoschizo zhang

>> No.15636512

>>15636384
hey bug, don't you have to got shine xi's shoes or something

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15636568

where our nijibros, still sleeping?

>> No.15636579

>>15636454
imagine the numbers

>> No.15636589

>>15636480
>nene
>having a chance at anything besides failing
roru roru rumao

>> No.15636592

Give us back our numbers Susan you fucking whore

>> No.15636602

>>15636478
it stalled ???

>> No.15636664

Base outfit the most fuckable, New Years outfit still really fuckable. Thanks Koyorin.

>> No.15636674

One day Susan will stopped showing CCV for public like they did to dislike button.

>> No.15636681

>>15636384
too obvious...

>> No.15636686

>>15636568
having new years sex with boyfriends and girlfriends

>> No.15636744

>>15636478
She didnt tease it for long so it did not peak that much to even go down with

>> No.15636757

With all this talk about outfits, karaokes and vshojo monopoly numbers, i kinda forgot about nijiEN. What did they do for NY? Numbers?

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15636766

It's over...

>> No.15636784

Well I think we can call it, Gura has nowhere near Ina's waiting room numbers. Fucking incompetent chicken with her retarded relay

>> No.15636847

>>15636674
They'll only show it for Certified Events, i.e. corporate streams where they can boast the millions of viewers that are now coincidentally not filtered whatsoever

>> No.15636852

>>15636766
Lulu...

>> No.15636867

>>15636784
You realize Ame didn't end her stream yet, retard ?

>> No.15636877

>>15636171
That's like 100k less than Pekora's, quite pathetic

>> No.15636878

Relay peak CCV

Gura: TBC
Ina: 23,798
Mori: 19,250
Mumei: 18,695
Kronii: 18,425
Ame: 18,118
Bae: 16,797
Fauna: 16,742
IRyS: 14,853
Kiara: 12,021
Sana: 11,545

Seems about right. Mumei, Mori and Ina above Kronii is a surprise, though.

>> No.15636918

>>15636867
I don't think she's going to.

>> No.15636921

>IRyS maintaining 15k while overlapping with Gura at 24k and Ame
You guys told me she was a flop…

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>>15636337
Imagine not getting at least 490k when one of your biggest talents graduates. Are niji listeners don't care about livers?

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15636970

I think this new cull cured my numberfaggotry, it's hard to care about something that isn't even remotely accurate, godspeed /#/, the future ahead is bleak

>> No.15636975

Are we sure this isn't a shit hour to do an outfit reveal in Japan? Why they didn't wait to the usual prime time?

>> No.15636974

>>15636784
We can bill orange woman and KFP's for this shit show right? What an embarrassment, they took a good idea that proved success last year and fucking drove it into the ground.

>> No.15636981

>>15636878
Eww wtf are those numbers

>> No.15637002

>>15636918
She said she was going to, though.

>> No.15637013

>>15636867
You realize she won't and is streaming over Gura, right?

>> No.15637083

Can someone explain the SC gathering strategies of Rushia, Lamy, Chloe and the departed Coco?

>> No.15637113

>>15636878
How the fuck did Ina get the most so far.
She wasn't even unarchived

>> No.15637116

>>15636145
That's yesterday's NY stream.

Depressing as fuck numbers aside, we actually have some interesting things to investigate at least.

Laplus (21k peak, 176k views now): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCHMamMb-_A
Lui (19k peak, 128k views now): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv36secpPZ8

Coco (61k peak, 423k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/9-miUIbhZc4
Towa (57k peak, 379k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ac80uA4Y0P4
Kanata (84k peak, 360k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/0lxAqsyXqeg
Luna (67k peak, 317k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/e36L2mooaxE
Watame (69k peak, 334k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/QJoXqGB4Vsk
Polka (85k peak, 388k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/1q5VK5T4Rw8
Lamy (71k peak, 334k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Qb2d4dtUKaU
Botan(87k peak, 369k views): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/qvmF2KxKZSQ

We can also compare Mio's views this year and last year too.

Also, Ame isn't ending for Gura... does she know how a relay funnel works?

>> No.15637121

>>15636878
Double that for the real numbers.

>> No.15637130

>>15636975
It's January 1st, every hour is a shit hour

>> No.15637164

>>15636878
>yfw Fubuki could've streamed fishing shinys through the entire duration and casually mogged everyone

>> No.15637183 [DELETED] 

Did Ame just die?

>> No.15637205

>>15636974
>We can bill orange woman and KFP's for this shit show right?

Gura couldn't be bothered to check Discord for multiple days and had to force herself into the relay at the last second; Hell Gura didn't even realise it was happening when Kiara announcd it. If anything, Gura is to blame for this because of her chronic laziness and her recent desire to kneecap herself at every opportunity.

>> No.15637226

>>15637113
She had a great timeslot with minimal overlaps.

>> No.15637241

>>15636878
kronii only 18k? i thought she was the popular ones..

>> No.15637245

>>15636975
Last year's was at the exact same time, Kanata got 84k

>> No.15637248

>>15637113
people are tired of anime girls endlessly singing shitty english pop songs and want glorious nippon anison?

>> No.15637251

>>15637121
I thought what we’re not gonna do is multiply numbers based on theories?

>> No.15637290

>>15637113
Ina is popular, and also didn't have any really notable overlap. Neither did Mumei or Kronii, but going later in the relay = better.

>> No.15637293

>>15637130
CO-CO-CO-CO-COPIUM

>> No.15637298

>Many people probably have thought of me as a streaming monster
>But I've only gotten started
>I'm want to show you what I'm really made of!
Koyorin is great.

>> No.15637301

>>15636878
The cull is real. Last year had ~80k average, they're being stolen >70% of their ccvs by Susan. Why?

>> No.15637339

>>15637205
>come up with event idea during literal holiday
>surprised ghost holo didn't answer asap
Nah, stfu KFP, your chicken is a blight upon numbers

>> No.15637361

>>15636878
Remember when sana was supposed to be the ina killer lmao?

>> No.15637387

Here comes the membership rush

>> No.15637404

>>15637301
are you seriously still going to use the Cull Excuse when niji did a massive concert yesterday that did 180k?

>> No.15637417

>>15637298
She has the fire in her belly. She's been edging a little bit into try hard territory what with calling into every totsu she possibly can, but I admire her drive to claw her way to the top.

>> No.15637460

Oh jesus fuck the members, chat is melting my CPU

>> No.15637502

>>15637083
>chloe
burikko
>lamy
gfe and concenrfag baiting
>coco
superchats as memes + occasional gfe
>rushia
idk, gfe maybe? i don't watch her

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My wife so smart! And sly!!

>> No.15637516

will Chloe milk the outfit stream or not?

>> No.15637520

Ame isnt ending her stream for gura.........

>> No.15637522

Chloe is getting so many memberships my browser is lagging.

>> No.15637524

>all green
Chloe I kneel

>> No.15637528

>>15637404
The thread has done through research to prove that the cull targets Hololive specifically.

>> No.15637543

>>15637404
>when niji did a massive concert yesterday that did 180k
NTA, but it could just mean NJU's real number was even higher.
There's not even anything to cope about because it was a legit great event and they had 58 people in it.

>> No.15637559

>>15637404
Yes, Niji should've gotten way over 200k. Unironically.

>> No.15637561

bros, do we have the equivalent of holostats/holo.poi for nijisanji?

>> No.15637619

>Orca delays membership until a stream where she's guaranteed to get lots of tourists who will join the wave
She really is the best at what she does isn't she.

>> No.15637625

Is Ame going to end her relay?

>> No.15637639

>>15637502
Rushia is menhera gfe taken to the extreme

>> No.15637674

>>15637561
Not as good as holostats. Niji have nijimado.

>> No.15637678

Time for Orca to show how to milk real numbers

>> No.15637679

>23k waiting
[...]
>8.3k watching now

>> No.15637681

>>15637625
Apparently not.

>> No.15637692

Sasuga Orca

>> No.15637705

The whole gen 6’s rigging especially koyorin and chloe really makes you realize how nijisanji is so far behind in their live2d technology

>> No.15637708

>>15637625
No, she's waiting for a countdown apparently and doing a "watchalong" of Gura's karaoke.

She even made the joke earlier that she's Gura's waiting room.

>> No.15637719

>>15637619
It also depicts why HoloX sucks.

>> No.15637725

>>15637361
the only thing she killed is her numbers

>> No.15637727

Am I stupid where's Gura's stream on HoloStats?

>> No.15637735

>>15637404
niji should have easily reached 250k+

>> No.15637741

I can't even keep Chloe's chat open without it lagging other streams. I kneel.

>> No.15637760

>>15637625
they did say her kara will last longer

>> No.15637764

>>15637619
she's a genius, I've had to refresh the page like 4 times already cause the membership spam is lagging it out

>> No.15637787

>>15637719
completely soulless gen

>> No.15637795

>open chloe stream
>hear over the top burikko voice
>-1 viewer

>> No.15637817

>>15637727
Still on the schedules tab

>> No.15637822

>>15637404
NJU got 3 times the SC of last year, but apparently only half as much again CCV. The real numbers could well have been much higher

>> No.15637883

she already got over 2k mems in 5 mins what the fuck

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>>15637727
3 hours away because Gura set the wrong time frame and Holostats is too stupid to adjust quickly.
It's not going to be recorded so we'll need to rely on vrabi.

>> No.15637899

>Kuroe is mogging Goooa
Kek

>> No.15637919

>>15637727
It's fucked up, holostats probably won't track this.

>> No.15637940
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>>15637528

>> No.15637977

>>15637822
3x the SCs is because they also had 3x the performers. Numbers might still genuinely be higher than shown of course.

>> No.15637984

>>15637899
cumfarts… we got too cocky…

>> No.15637993

>>15637516
> will Chloe milk
yes

>> No.15637999

>>15637899
It's an outfit reveal.
At least she could physically kill Gura by throwing pennies at her

>> No.15638016

>>15637940
How else would you explain it then?

>> No.15638031

>>15637719
>>15637787
don't group the others with her... they just do what they want.

>> No.15638054

>>15637404
>58 vtuber live with most of their top tier appeared
If anything, 180k is too low

>> No.15638100

>>15638016
Pakora

>> No.15638113

>>15638016
Holo recline

>> No.15638142

Orca is truly the savior of numbers

>> No.15638148

>>15638054
koshien... mario kart...

>> No.15638202

>>15637516
I don't care I'm going to milk Chloe and her fat sweaty tits

>> No.15638240

Ames a dumb whore who is hogging 9k viewers from her relay....... ah she actually ended her stream once gura sang

>> No.15638306

Laplus sabotaging the relay will keep Chloe under 30k, will her plan pay off? Same-chan is already at 21k

>> No.15638336
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Give some credit to koyote. That's how you do a proper reveal and funnel. La+ seriously fucked over Lui-nee

>> No.15638348

>>15637787
Sakamata is the only soul sucking monster of the gen. The others are all pretty earnest so far.

>> No.15638360

>>15638240
Why did you correct yourself on the same post

>> No.15638365
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>>15635478
If Ironmouse doesn't count, what will you guys do if YouTube implement raids?

>> No.15638382

>>15638100
>>15638113
Reclines aren't like this, it's a gradual downwards slope. What we see now is a cliff.

>> No.15638387

>>15638306
Chloe will atleast clear 30k from the looks of it.

>> No.15638386

>>15638306
anon, Chloe's at 28k and hasn't even started the outfit part.

>> No.15638400
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bluh, holostats bugged out

>> No.15638405

>>15638336
it helps that her outfit is actually cute instead of whatever laplus is

>> No.15638416

>>15638240
I wonder. I know Ame just does shit sometimes, but if I suspected (or read about) a problem with waiting room viewers, holding them and then feeding them in directly would cross my mind.

>> No.15638460

>>15638387
Members or dollars?

>> No.15638457

>>15638360
Because she said she wouldnt end her stream and suddenly decided to end it when gura started to sing.

>> No.15638485

>>15638365
Ironmouse counts. For now. Because she lost.

>> No.15638514

>>15638365
>what will you guys do if YouTube implement raids?
Do you really think YouTube can implement something competently? lmao

>> No.15638534

>>15638365
live redirect is not the same as raids, ina already used it for her cover release. it's more like you can do hype stream for music releases. can't redirect to other channels.

>> No.15638552

The Orca knows how to do a reveal.

>> No.15638565

>>15638306
Cunny collusion

>> No.15638577

Chloe cleared 30k pretty quick once she started the teasing. 32k now.

>> No.15638617
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>>15635478
>Ironmouse takes the first gold of 2022?
Not anymore

>> No.15638630

As a numberfag I love you Chloe

>> No.15638633

>>15595314
called it
I actually undershot kek

>> No.15638636

Nice bare legs Orca

>> No.15638656

3k members under 15 mins, dunno if that's good or bad

>> No.15638663

>>15638552
For real, this is the first good reveal all day.
The funny thing is, she probably had a lot of fanart designs she could've gone over too, but decided to shill membership instead.

>> No.15638664
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Mori

>> No.15638682

hope you motherfuckers are ready to kneel for NENE GOLD

>> No.15638686

Surprising to see Lui-nee's outfit reveal stream getting more superchat (barely) than Lapras..

>> No.15638721
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3 digit median niji

>> No.15638730

>>15638577
I can't believe this is the numbers we now live in. Fuck SUSAN

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>>15635703
This but unironically

>> No.15638768

>>15638365
>>15638485
Twitch counts off-tabs, ad-block users, etc. YouTube does not. You can bring this up if YouTube has started doing so again.

>> No.15638783

>>15638656
That's $15000 in 15 mins.
You tell me man lmao

>> No.15638855

Apparently 5ch Nijifans are laughing at us for pushing a new cull theory

>> No.15638871

>only 2 songs in and 26k
Lmao when will vshitjo learn. You can't win EN gold against Gura

>> No.15638872

>>15638365
Then we can finally retire /#/ for good and just watch streams

>> No.15638882

>>15638686
Laplus' SC fell off a cliff since she opened membership

>> No.15638926

>>15638664
She's made nearly 1.5m yen today if you include the unarchived karaoke as well.

>> No.15638934

>>15638855
>apparently 5ch

>> No.15638939

So, how much is this in pre-cull metrics? I think it's safe to say she's near or over 100k right now.

>> No.15638940

>>15638855
Nijifans here are doing the same though?

>> No.15638947

>>15638636
succubus showing leg all the way up

>> No.15638961

Of course the succubus has a lewd new years outfit.

>> No.15638973

>>15638721
Was about to post that, she has more CCV on that stream rn than some of her VODs last week.

>>15638855
I mean... we laughed at them all year and a bunch of anons were so drunk last night they were celebrating that Pekora's outfit "won" by 39 viewers so NJU was a failure.
I think it's fair to get clowned on.

>> No.15638978

>>15637999
Cope.

>> No.15639005
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Chloe, I kneel

>> No.15639036

Kuroe got god tier model. Holly shit!

>> No.15639055

its literally only ENcucks that are pushing this schizo theory.

>> No.15639083

>>15638855
>5ch said
ok fag

>> No.15639092

39.5k peak

>> No.15639097

gura is steadily inclining gold is possible if the rate doesnt decrease

>> No.15639099

>>15638939
Susan culled by around 70% so 100k would be the true value.

>> No.15639100

I refuse to believe that this fucking SEGGS of an outfit is only 40k.

>> No.15639145

39K peak for Orca
pretty good

>> No.15639150

Man these NY outfits are high quality and resolution

>> No.15639154

>Gura barely beating Ina numbers
kek, what happened chumbuds?

>> No.15639157

>>15639036
Look at that rigging. Amazing

>> No.15639153

Fuck just short of 40k.

>> No.15639172

>>15638871
>EN gold
Love chumbuds coping.

>> No.15639189
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Almost 40k, far better than her genmates.

>> No.15639200

>39k peak for Chloe and the best NY outfit so far imo
Slightly off-topic, but does anyone else think Chloe has the best rigging in all of hololive?
It looks so damn good.

>> No.15639205

Noooooo, you dumb orca, couldn't you stall 30 more seconds to get 40k

>> No.15639216

2021 lowest NY outfit : Towa 57,174

>> No.15639218

this orca...

>> No.15639221

End your shit already kuroe and funnel gura!

>> No.15639243
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2021 numbers

>> No.15639253

>>15639097
Nah, not gonna happen. But mogging twitch raid mouse is enough to make me happy.

>> No.15639289

Gura's still gaining, 30k seems likely.

>> No.15639290

>>15639154
What's the next goal post? retardchama

>> No.15639291

Will the samurai outperform the whale?

>> No.15639319

>>15639189
Where's the usual spike?
WHY IS IT SO LINEAR?
WHAT IS GOING ON YOUTUBE? HAVE YOU STOLEN THE BIG SPIKES FROM US?

>> No.15639338

holy fuck the boob tape

>> No.15639347

Will all these viewers funnel to Iroha?

>> No.15639369
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>oshi is laplus
>can't stop numberfagging
help me anons....

>> No.15639368

>>15638240
Ame is a selfish whore who streams over others during a karaoke relay. Graduate that bitch right now.

>> No.15639391

>>15639200
when the mask had it's own expressions you know her rigger done a good job. Her outfit rigging is amazing as well.

>> No.15639393

>>15639145
You can't be serious

>> No.15639416

>>15639097
The rate won't decrease but the karaoke is 30 mins long. 31k max

>> No.15639437

Slut

>> No.15639441

UUUOOOHHHH!!!
PITS! ORCA SMELLY PITS!

That's a nice costume

>> No.15639447

>>15639253
eh i wouldnt be so sure, she is getting 500-1000 a song and has 20 minutes to go

>> No.15639448

Wagahai truly got fucked with her design. Jesus is her costume the worst.

>> No.15639464

>>15639291
Not with those succulent breast and pits

>> No.15639465
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>>15639200
Yes, it's very good

>> No.15639570

>>15639448
She can only blame herself.

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30k get

>> No.15639619

Anyone that expected more than 40k fpr an outfit reveal of literally "whos"-s to casuals and tourists is fucking retarded.

>> No.15639623

>>15639200
She has the same papa as Lamy and Botan, of course she has great rigging.

>> No.15639637

>>15638855
Post the thread faggot

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gura 30k

>> No.15639652

Is vshojo collab NY stream that had multiple raids including a Sykkuno raid really gonna get beat by the stinky shark?

>> No.15639661

>>15639369
Could be worse mine is Luna and she doesnt give a shit about numbers

>> No.15639669

>>15639200
Her hair is clipping into her face anon.

>> No.15639670

>>15639447
She's going to have a bunch of ENs calling into her stream for the announcement, it's actually on the table.

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>>15639319
Doesn't look at that weird for a 30min relay reveal

>> No.15639717

>>15639189
didnt even beat towa lol. no cull right

>> No.15639726

2 million yen get

>> No.15639727

gura's chat speed is pretty insane right now

>> No.15639746

>>15639594
>>15639644
Last samurais sweating

>> No.15639750

>>15639369
>>15639661
Mine is Anya...

>> No.15639754

>>15639619 (me)
Can't spell, I am too drunk.

>> No.15639755
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The gura killers

>> No.15639791

i'm surprised chrome is holding out with both Gura & Chloe chat open lol

16gb ram
i3-10100

>> No.15639813

>>15639750
mine is sana....

>> No.15639836

Thank you orca, I no longer believe in new cull. Pekora's month gold was legitimate!

>> No.15639839

>>15639685
Okay.
I'm still very concerned at these really low fucking numbers compared to last year. I don't know, its like...gah.
Fuck I'm gonna come back in a few weeks and see if these anemic numbers persist.

>> No.15639845

Gura 31.5k and still increasing

>> No.15639862

3>2 prove me wrong

>> No.15639864

>>15639813
Abandon the ship anon.

>> No.15639871

>>15639652
There's a reason sykkuno tried to leech off Gura first. She's stronger than a whole twitch clique

>> No.15639889

>>15639661
>>15639369
mine's koone/ame...

>> No.15639901

Just let those small numbers stay for a while
It will heal the numberrot

>> No.15639915

>>15639652
Snuffy 6k, Sykkuno16k, plus another who

>> No.15639917

>>15639243
Average CCV > median of peak CCV

>> No.15639922

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqdzPK9qf0U

>Arrives to rescue Holo's rapidly fading dignity

>> No.15639951

32k

>> No.15640025

I do believe Cover knew Chloe was going to be a hit so they gave her everything on the highest quality.

>> No.15640034

I fucking love my wife.

>> No.15640073

4k members
2.5m
what the fuck

>> No.15640077

Can we talk more about kpop numbers?

>> No.15640085

>>15639755
>it took an outfit reveal and gura still might beat her
Jesus fucking christ what is happening over at JP

>> No.15640093

>>15639813
sana doesn't give a fuck about numbers anon, either you abandon the numberfagging or abandon her

>> No.15640097

32k to 30k
Gura won

>> No.15640118

>>15640025
I'll have to check Chloe and Koyori's artists again, both designs are great

La+ is as trash as her skinny legs

>> No.15640117

>>15640077
Mods prease ban

>> No.15640126

>>15639901
I don't care about numberrot I just want the numbers to be just the tiniest bit accurate, there's no way in hell this only had 39k watching

>> No.15640132

The SC numbers are absurd today

>> No.15640148

>>15640085
Both EN and JP are just on equal playing fields now.

>> No.15640159

>>15640025
I'll push this rrat. Her rigging and the details on this dress are amazing.

>> No.15640167

I'd like to propose the following rrat:

The reason Youtube is culling vtubers and similar content is to make their CCV-to-superchat revenue ratio even more lopsided, with the ultimate goal being to eventually paint vtubing in the same light as China and the CCP painted vtubers as being predatory and taking advantage of poor schmucks by draining their wallets. This is the easily the most effective way for Youtube to diminish vtubers in favor of more widely appealing content for corporate advertisers and partners, just like it was the easiest way for the CCP to crack down on it.

>> No.15640178

>>15640118
What a homo.

>> No.15640186

is this stream not showing on holostats or is it just me

>> No.15640193

>>15640097
Chloe peaked at 39K anon

>> No.15640206

>Eli at 5.8k, which is 5-10x her normal numbers
>She had a few songs at NJU last night
>I told anons that NJU won't incline anyone since it's niji tourists who won't watch streams
>Also told anons that Cover should do something like NJU for exposure to normies and big numbers
Help guys, I'm stuck

>> No.15640219

Chloe's chat is faster than NJU

>> No.15640227

>20k likes
yeah, cull is real

>> No.15640228

I don't think she's beating Chloe but i think it has some merit to get this without relay outfit reveal buff.

>> No.15640246

>>15640193
It's about shark vs. mouse anon.

>> No.15640249

>>15640097
newfag cumfart...

>> No.15640304

>>15640073
Kronii got +5k so I am not surprised

>> No.15640308

Did a tracker catch Chloe’s peak? Shark might be able to get to 36 but I don’t see 39

>> No.15640315

>>15640118
Wagahai sent a PNG of herself as her dress print, kek. She looks like those weeb race cars.

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oh nyo what happened to the """""gura killer"""""

>> No.15640326

>>15640246
Ah, my bad then
But 30K for mousey looks pretty good

>> No.15640334

>>15639661
Luknighto... I've been thinking about this for a while, although the reason is clear for us, it's nearly impossible for the casuals.

>> No.15640337

>>15640228
Shark still has the announcement

>> No.15640360

>>15640325
anon are you fucking stupid

>> No.15640365

>>15640167
You know what, I will choose to believe this rrat. Fucktards are ignoring the largest streamers on their site while dumping loads of cash on twitch retards and including them in discussions on implementing new features. Fuck them

>> No.15640373

>>15640186
Gura fucked it up by initially scheduling it for 12:30AM PST and then realizing she fucked up, switched the time to 9:30pm PST. That resulted in Holostats fucking up too, and now this one's not gonna be on Holostats.
Vrabi will have it though.

>> No.15640381

>>15640326
By multiple raids

>> No.15640386

45 min for karaoke?( excluding Gura's announcement)

>> No.15640418

>>15640325
kill yourself spiczo

>> No.15640422

>>15639839
Were the streams last year this early too?

>> No.15640429

>>15640325
you're stupid
+
the only person that can kill gura is gura

>> No.15640434

>>15640308
Holostats got 39,512

>> No.15640473

did chloe make something like 40k dollars from a 30 min stream? or am i retarded

>> No.15640476

>>15640206
Admit you were wrong, that the tourists ARE visiting Eli, and that Cover should go ahead for exposure. You faggot.

>> No.15640482

>no link to next stream on the description
chloe really is the shittiest addition to holo from this gen

>> No.15640490

>>15640167
Or maybe Youtube just hates VTubers. Why do you think there have been no rewind for 2 years. Because they would have to include anime girls.

>> No.15640498

>>15640219
Her gachis can't afford bots, because they need to pay for superchats.

>> No.15640523

>>15640325
Cloe would bomb Atlantis with car batteries

>> No.15640537
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The alleged cull is just cope.
You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
Accept it and move on.

>> No.15640562

>>15640308
The issue is that this is a 30 minute karaoke vs a fucking outfit reveal. What is it gonna take to get JP’s numbers back?

>> No.15640574

>>15640325
You will never be white, stop larping as an anglo ESLchama

>> No.15640578

>>15640326
too bad the twitch tracker didn’t pick that up then, it had her at 26k because once she got raided everyone saw a vwhorejo and left

>> No.15640581

>>15638882
Makes sense since she feels like fem Niji.

>> No.15640591

>>15639243
Myth hours Sept 12-13 to December 31
>Ame 372
>Kiara 338
>Ina 219
>Gura 206
>Mori 182

avg: 263

Council hours August 23 to December 31
>Sana 236
>Bae 223
>Kronii 205
>Fauna 193
>Mumei 189

>avg: 209

holobros????

>> No.15640597

>>15640490
YT hates anime in general

>> No.15640652

>>15640537
no, you're just too dumb to see the obvious or baiting

>> No.15640664

>>15640326
she had multiple raids including a 16k Sykkuno raid anon.... she did stay around 21k after all those raids so i guess that means something

>> No.15640689

>>15640422
Exact same timeslots I'm sure, and they're all like a half of what they were last year. It's kinda fucky desu, and with Fubuki's numbers, the Hololive NYE program also being screwy looking, I don't fucking know anymore.
I really might have to rely on VOD views from now on, FUCK. This CCV fuckery pisses me off.

>> No.15640722

>>15640652
>le sad shark
he's obviously baiting

>> No.15640726

>>15638686
Gonna be a Flare type with less viewers compared to gen mates but most are dedicated.

>> No.15640727

>>15640476
Naw I just looked at her stream, and she's doing a shill relay for a Miko rhythm game, so maybe it is just tourists.

>> No.15640742

>>15640537
Asmongold-san... our oshi will make a massive comeback in may 2022.

>> No.15640777

>>15640482
She's not the hero we deserve, but she's the one we need right now.

>> No.15640880

> dumb orca didn't even funnel her viewers to gozaru in either description or at the end of her stream

>> No.15640893

>>15640482
Am I a faggot for manually using the search bar to go to the next stream

>> No.15640894

>>15640591
There's no way that Mori had the least hours in EN these past few months

>> No.15640898

>>15640727 (me)
https://pjsekai.sega.jp/news/article/index.html?hash=1b41136ed1d2957e0c3517710bd4cc953a25f9b3
Nene's in the relay too

>> No.15640920

>>15640562
>this is a 30 minute karaoke
But it has an announcement with a totsu at the end, no?

>> No.15640934

So is this cull theory affecting Nijisanji as well? Smaller fanbases probably wouldn't notice any change but what about big Livers like Kuzuha/Lize/Kanae?

>> No.15640941

>>15640894
2020 debut year

>> No.15640951

Iroha radiates that "must protect" aura. She's gonna do well in the future.

>> No.15640955

>>15640898
Nene won't beat Eli

>> No.15640956

>>15640880
She's a sociopath and will fuck over her genmates.

>> No.15640969
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>muh cull
meanwhile eli

>> No.15640992

>>15640893
No, nobody checks descriptions except that faggot

>> No.15640995

>>15640591
>Mori that low
Surely this isn't right? She had so many endurances in Nov and Dec

>> No.15641025

Shark at 33k and still rising

>> No.15641042

>>15640951
>must protect
Really? She comes off to me as someone who's competent in anything she does.

>> No.15641051

>>15640934
Cull is just a cope, time to admit it

>> No.15641073

>>15640880
>dumb
She did that intentionally, anon

>> No.15641091

>>15640880
>selfish whore doesn't promote her peers. News at 6 anon... news at 6,.

>> No.15641092

>>15640995
2020 myth vs 2021 council

>> No.15641100

>>15640941
Oh, that makes sense.

>> No.15641121

>>15640969
>リレー

>> No.15641130

>>15640097
Why are you comparing twitch numbers with youtube when twitch advocates the usage of bots.

>> No.15641138

>>15641025
Last song, 34k looks like the cap

>> No.15641164

>>15640934
We've pointed out that the Totsu for Kanae got unusually low numbers for his FIRST Totsu, that Kuzuha's zatsu was a bit on the low side, and that Toya's stream somehow failed to break fucking 20k with his trademark thumbnail bait and his chatting, which is HIGHLY unusual when he hadn't been spamming much in terms of streams.
The only thing is, there's the valo stream that looked normal, so I don't fucking know anymore.
I HATE YOUTUBE!
YOUTUBE HATE!

>> No.15641211

>>15641138
Announcement will push it past 40k and they didn't even have to bait outfit reveals to do it

>> No.15641262

>>15636878
Neither Bael nor Fauna peaked that high. They only p akee at 14.5k and 15.9k respectively. I assume you used Vrabi’s numbers. If so, you might want to check their graphs since Vrabi counts waiting room too (same reason why they are showing IRyS’s peak at 16.9k instead of 14.7k)

>> No.15641260

>Iroha already revealing her outfit 6 mins in
HoloX makes numberfagging so unfun

>> No.15641270

>>15640562
>le epic backpedalling from shitting on Lui and La+ numbers
Just accept it chumpedo, small undeveloped breasts and hips are no longer a buff.

>> No.15641338

>>15641211
Lol he believes

>> No.15641384

https://vrabi.ml/video/t82IXaJD-AA
Hima doing a costume reveal right now too.

>> No.15641407

>>15641211
Come anon, learn to read the flow

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>> No.15641478

Would (you)r oshi faire better if she would engage in gravure idol content? It's almost guaranteed that they would, yet why don't they?

>> No.15641519
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My wife is such a tease

>> No.15641535

Is time!

>> No.15641566

inb4 omega built a 3d studio in america

>> No.15641599

??? 30 minutes karaoke

>> No.15641646

>>15641407
>you must read the flow
numberfagging is truly an art for the masters

>> No.15641667

>>15641164
My cope is that they aren't culling number but artificially capping the viewers peak. That's why some number is normal because it's below their artificial cap

>> No.15641673

>>15641260
They only have 30 minutes so they have to reveal early to leave enough time for superchat.

>> No.15641682

>>15640562
Just ignore all the faggots constantly trying to bring holos vs holos in numbers.

>> No.15641745

>last samurai forced to brag about a 6k lead over EN in a fucking outfit reveal stream
Look what you've been reduced to, /hlg/

>> No.15641753

I'm upset that Gen 6 got really creative with these reals and the numbers are dogshit

>> No.15641804

People say the cull is holo exclusive, and honestly that's kind of dumb, but I do think it is affecting different channels differently. Lamy was getting normal numbers for her pokemon stream, and Mio's numbers are not that different from her tarot stream last year. Miko on the other hand seems to have suffered a really hard hit.

>> No.15641870

lmao that's all????

>> No.15641936

>>15641384
Did she reveal it in a first few minutes? Is that how nijis usually do it?

>> No.15641959

holoX members gained from opening stream
>Laplus - 5612
>Iroha - 4181
>Chloe - 4171
>Koyori - 4038
>Lui - 2076

>> No.15641968

this song again? what a shitty announcement

>> No.15642053

>>15641870
Yep.
Well, I was kind of expecting this eventually. Guess it makes sense.

>> No.15642065

hahaha, Gura says
>We've heard you!
Chat spams 3D debut!
>Ochame Kinou

>> No.15642139

ok announcement wasnt anything special .... 36k was max.

>> No.15642166

>>15641936
Yup, classic Niji.

>> No.15642189

no one asked for that shit

>> No.15642194

Fuck off Mori you fake cunt

>> No.15642249

>>15642065
KEK
3d debut. When Japan is still closed.
WE FUCKING WISH.

>> No.15642277

>>15642053
>>15641870
What was the announcement? Not watching her stream atm and don’t want to watch bait clippers

>> No.15642306

>>15641753
>debut 1 month ago
What amount of casuals do you expect to tune in to literal who's to them?

>> No.15642352

>>15642065
EN will participate Aqua's 1/28 concert with 2D only. So no 3D before Feb.

>> No.15642354
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Probably the final peak.

>> No.15642363

>>15641804
The theory that it's filtering out overseas viewers and only counting Japanese viewers seems to have some merit. The Holos with the largest overseas fanbases and international appeal are getting culled hard while Holos that filter out EOPs like Mio and Lamy are largely unaffected. It also explains why Niji seems to be mostly untouched since nobody outside Japan watches them.

>> No.15642379

>>15642166
Even then 4k for a new outfit is... Hima...

>> No.15642418

>>15642277
Ochame Kinou, HoloEN version.
In about an hour and 45 minutes (midnight PST, on the HoloEN channel)

>> No.15642431

>>15642277
cover song...... on hololive official channel.

>> No.15642457

>>15642166
So, this means that Laplus is a genuine nijisister and the whole thing with being a kenzoku was a lie to save face

>> No.15642517

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/qzuayAqYXJY

Are unarchived streams not tracked?

>> No.15642524

>>15642194
she really do sound fake & uninterested right now, whats up deadbeats?

>> No.15642556

gozaru peaked at 36.4k i think, the viewer counter is behaving weird

>> No.15642563
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nijisisters... I think I believe the cull now its the eop fanbase

>> No.15642561

Uoooogggghhh my wife so cute!!!! I'mma jakin jakin so hard!!

>> No.15642582

>>15641804
>People say the cull is holo exclusive,
it isn't some indies and animare i watch also got culled. its either that or its the festivities sucking up viewers

>> No.15642587

>>15642517
Scroll up anon. Its gura's fault.

>> No.15642609

>30 minutes karaoke
>stupid cover that no one asked for
That was anticlimatic

>> No.15642616

>>15642363
Niji is not "mostly untouched", killing foreign viewers would not explain Toya getting under 20k

>> No.15642642

>What we lost: crazy high peaks on costume reveal streams
>What we gained: No embarrassing 10k drop the moment the face is revealed

idk man, not sure if worth.

>> No.15642657

>>15642563
What the fuck...

>> No.15642659

>>15640934
Kuzuha did a NY stream after NJU, topped out at 17k or so. Have a guess.

>> No.15642667

>>15642363
this makes sense, would explain why some are faring better than others

>> No.15642670

>>15642431
honestly, i don't care about numbers i glad they are finally doing Ochame Kinou

>> No.15642720

>>15642563
STOP THE COUNT

>> No.15642729

>>15642563
WE WARNED YOU AND DIDNT LISTEN

>> No.15642765

>>15641959
Huh, the tactics didn’t get people to sign up to prostitute subscriptions. Literally half of cunnys memberships now
I guess when you get ojisans (fucking phone posting because it’s NYE keeps autocorrecting your Ohioans) to come in and blow their wad with a years worth of sub fees in one dono it doesn’t matter that much tho

>> No.15642790

>>15642363
This theory has zero merit, because holo with the most widely distributed fanbase by definition is Gura and she doesn't get culled at all.

>> No.15642826

>>15642563
adblock = culled

>> No.15642844

>>15642563
what is this fucking pattern, susan fix your fucking website

>> No.15642848

>>15642363
I watch indies for which I'm pretty sure I'm the only gaijin there and their numbers have been slashed in half, this isn't it

>> No.15642877

>>15642563
KAKAKAKKAKA
I hope people bitch at YT to at least release a statement that they fucked with the CCV AGAIN so we can have closure. I doubt they revert it, but getting a definitive "Yea, we messed with it again" would be better than this state of weirdness we're in rn.

>> No.15642890

>>15642379
She has 4.7k watching you lying piece of shit. And when you have so many outfits already , I don’t even know when the actual reveal has started in between her trying on the other outfits

>> No.15642896

>>15642363
There's less non-JP comments in chat.
>>15642616
Foreign viewers just mean non-JP, not necessarily those that know English. Maybe Toya has a bunch of HK/TW fans.

>> No.15642927

>>15642790
Gura isn't based in Japan

>> No.15642975

>>15642877
https://twitter.com/lull_luzyca/status/1469701004967182336
this indie has been complaining since a year ago.

>> No.15642981

>>15642363
Nah, even if they have a large EOP fanbase, it's still not THAT big proportionally to explain this big of a cull.

>> No.15642995

>>15642790
>she doesn't get culled at all.
>23k peak for a 3 hour stream
>45k likes
>457k views 1 hour after stream ends
Kek, what makes you think that?

>> No.15643016

>>15642659
Kuzuha is one of the Nijis we know have foreign viewers.

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>78k views immediately after stream ended

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>>15642609
>stupid cover that no one asked for
>that no one asked for
YOU FUCKING WHAT

>> No.15643080

>Holidays
>EOPs went outside
>It's the cull!
the absolute state

>> No.15643092

>>15642765
30 min stream vs 1 hour for the others.

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>>15642563
full jop fanbase

>> No.15643111

Raccoon ears and a fucking bow for Iroha, nice.

>> No.15643112

>>15642975
I mean some bigger streamers bitching at YT for THESE recent fuckups. We already knew about waiting room culls, weirdness in CCV and whatnot before the very weird drop off that happened right around the 27th.

>> No.15643127

>>15642890
I was the anon who said she already revealed it and I was wrong.
She's revealing it rn.
5k viewers.

>> No.15643159

>>15642609
>stupid cover that no one asked for
bruh

>> No.15643171

lol gozaru got tanuki ears and a bow, they really did fuck la+ over by giving her that shitty outfit and putting her in the first slot

>> No.15643175

>>15641804
I'm still thinking what I'm thinking

>> No.15643193

>>15643080
The archive views and likes are the same, just live views. For HoloJP/EN and even Niji.

>> No.15643213

Nene soon
Predictions? Me think around 35K

>> No.15643221

>>15643111
Very nice. I like it, fits her theme very well.

>> No.15643256

I’m going with the cull hitting desktop viewers. Either adblock related or some browser thing
Would effect holos more since they have more western fans and less mobile watching normalfags
Also explains numbers hitting indies hard too since they probably have more hardcore, dedicated otaku watching them

>> No.15643262

>>15643213
30k, she's less popular than all of holox besides Lui

>> No.15643290

>>15642790
She was culled last year anon, you can't magically go from 40k avg down to 25k in just a month

>> No.15643301

>>15642927
Her channel is.

>> No.15643304

>>15642563
What does this mean?

>> No.15643331

>>15643256
all views are equal, but some are more equal than others

>> No.15643353

>>15643080
>>15643193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCHMamMb-_A&t=0s
>21k peak, 217k views
It's been only 2 hours and Laplus's costume reveal already has 2/3rds of Kanata's last year (which peaked at 84k)

>> No.15643355

>>15642563
I wonder how does youtube count waiting numbers. If it is counting those clicked the reminder and forgot about it maybe the drop and the gradual incline is from people slowly trickling in

>> No.15643358

>>15643213
Me think 35k too. You, me same.

>> No.15643371

>>15642642
Youtube thinks Iroha only dropped 2k after the full reveal and that Lui got back over her full outfit reveal. Like fuck no Susan you bitch.

>> No.15643426

>>15643256
Then ENs, including NijiEN, should be hit hardest. But they aren't.

>> No.15643433

>>15643171
Its what laplus wants you fucking mongol. She can only blame herself for that.

>> No.15643440

>>15643193
And the chat speed, likes, superchats are all the same, just the CCV is down, seems legit

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15643467

Remember how the narrative was "English viewers just like and comment on videos way more than Japanese ones, it's a cultural difference"?

Isn't that the stupidest fucking rrat now, in retrospect?

>> No.15643487

>>15643358
>>15643213
>>15643262
Dumb anons; no way Nene's going to get below 40k

>> No.15643497

>>15643213
NENE GOLDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>> No.15643526

>>15643256
It's too soon to go with anything. Right now what we should be doing is gathering data to figure out how much each channel/stream was affected by the cull on average.

>> No.15643546

>>15643371
For real.
HoloX has amazing audience retention after their costume reveals lmfao, only a 2k loss.
And some of them even incline after revealing the costume.

>> No.15643599

>>15643487
>he believes the weakest member of the weakest gen can get past 40k
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>> No.15643610

>>15642563
VRC? truly inspired by holo

>> No.15643613

>>15643433
blame for what, only numberfags are seething

>> No.15643618

>>15643107
Did she schedule the stream beforehand on youtube?

>> No.15643630

Somebody should make a browser extension that guesses ccv based on pre-cull percentages like that dislike extension. Then we can numberfag it. Would be about as real as whatever numbers we have now.

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Iroha can hold her audience

>> No.15643654

>>15643599
Nene isn't in gen 2 anon.

>> No.15643661

these numbers are a disgrace

>> No.15643668

>>15643546
these numbers aren't real anon, get a grip

>> No.15643697

I sometimes wonder if I am the only one who gets "disconnected" from the live-stream, because I never see anyone comment on this. I don't have this issue as long as I perform "an action" (i.e. click on the tab) every 3 minutes. Yet if I play a game and have the stream open on my second monitor I get a disc -> end of stream after ~3minutes of idle (no action taken on stream tab). I think a lot of people watch live-streams on the side while doing something else and once they see that the stream has supposedly ended they close it and move on to watch another streamer or something else.

>> No.15643707

>>15643618
yep she did but she started the stream 2 mins earlier.

>> No.15643719

Did susan fix her website yet?

>> No.15643724

>>15643426
They were already hit you last samurai yard, we've been telling you this for a year. It just caught up to the rest of them this patch

>> No.15643755

>>15643654
All of gen 2 besides Choco mog anyone in gen 5

>> No.15643757

>>15643646
People are just waiting if there's more to the outfit since it looks so fucking plain

>> No.15643767

So, someone explain to me why we care about live viewers if Pakora still gets 300-600k vod views?

>> No.15643790

>>15643630
stop anon, what we do is enough, we will go insane with literal imaginary values

>> No.15643791

>>15643467
>Remember how the narrative was "English viewers just like and comment on videos way more than Japanese ones, it's a cultural difference"?
They do though?

EN
https://youtu.be/kkXnWA0YzNQ
420k views
34k likes

JP
https://youtu.be/FIuuFG3PO_k
1 million views
30k likes

EN
https://youtu.be/t-Ep7mhtzHQ
1.85 million views
105k likes

JP
https://youtu.be/rP34FskitQU
1.8 million views
68k likes

Hard fact that JPs generally click like less than EN audiences.

>> No.15643792 [DELETED] 

>>15643719
she did, now those pesky vtubers aren't getting those inflated view numbers like they used to

>> No.15643806

>>15643630
Is our final destination to just numberfag over an RNG?

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>>15643719

>> No.15643843

>>15643767
No one with a brain cared after EN numbers were halved last year, only last samurai niggers kept pushing live views because it made them look good

>> No.15643880

>>15642563
But why EOP specifically? We already knew adblock users weren't counted. And it can't be a regional thing given that NijiEN should be North America, so their EOP viewers would align regionally.

>> No.15643883

>>15643792
kek

>> No.15643887

>>15643767
because CCV is the only meta that hasnt been killed by either susan entirely, so if that is now getting affected then the thread will devolve into numberfagging VODs

>> No.15643916

Apparently nijien debuted walfie ripoffs. Reduced to copying la creadividad lmao

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3M yen

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I appreciate that they didn't directly rip off Myth's smol models, but I can't help but feel like they're retracing HoloEN steps again and being HoloEN lite.

>> No.15643981

>>15643936
what the fuck

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recovered their views except rosemi

>> No.15643991

OH A PIN PON

>> No.15644026

>>15643767
true answer, because CCV is the most useful metric for shitposting and shitposting is fun

>> No.15644035

EN Karaoke:
1. Gura - 35,825
2. Ina - 23,798
3. Mori - 19,250
4. Mumei - 18,695
5. Kronii - 18,425
6. Ame - 18,188
7. Bae - 16,797
8. Fauna - 16,742
9. IRyS - 14,853
10. Kiara - 12,021
11. Sana - 11,545

HoloX Outfits:
1. Chloe - 39,512
2. Iroha - 36,412
3. Koyori - 27,674
4. La+ - 21,893
5. Lui - 19,577

>> No.15644038

Iroha is a good girl she's shilling nene new outfit before she end.

>> No.15644041

>>15643936
Less memberships than I expected.

>> No.15644102

>>15643965
Literally a Chinese knockoff lmao

>> No.15644109

>>15643965
>creative freedom

>> No.15644113

>>15643610
>by holo
and by holo you meant vshojo

>> No.15644125

>>15643936
And she's doing a "membership celebration" utawaku in 90 mins, this wasn't enough for this damn succubus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6YD5XVP4Bo

>> No.15644144

>>15644041
i mean, it was a 30 min stream anon

>> No.15644147

>>15643707
Hmm. Maybe the steep drop afer the stream starts is a bug that can be solved the starting earlier than scheduled. Looking at similar streams should solve this. I don't watch holo or niji, can any anon look into similar cases please

>> No.15644148

>>15644041
30 min anonchama that's fucking impressive

>> No.15644155

gozaru trying her best to funnel to nene like they're supposed to

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>>15644125
>i like money

>> No.15644212

>>15643965
that's what the chinese does though

>> No.15644244

>>15643213
1 trillion

>> No.15644249

>>15643791
Nah, Susan just deletes EN views.

>> No.15644255

>Nenes stream just started
>is already at 1mil yen

>> No.15644260

>>15643767
>vod views only mater when its for JP
The absolute state of /hlg2/

>> No.15644282

>>15643985
Yikes, youtube fcking up is real yo.

>> No.15644315

>>15643965
to be fair to them, they can't really get proper 3d debuts for the same reason holo's can't get theirs. chibi home models are a good bandaid, why not copy it?

>> No.15644327

>>15643965
> chink streamers doing chink shit watched by chinks

>> No.15644328

>>15643767
CCV is just an easy number to compare head to head and shitpost about because VODs have different lengths and some streams have more re-watchability than others.
VOD analysis for Holo3D concerts is actually pretty interesting because you can tell which 3D lives were memorable and people rewatch (Subaru/ Korone/ Fubuki/Marine) and which ones just die off after the first day (Lamy/Hachama).

>> No.15644359

>>15643965
LMAO this is sad

>> No.15644389

>>15644282
I guess it's niji turn.

>> No.15644399

>Spic defending Gura like his life depended on it
Honestly one of the most pathetic things I've seen on this board. No pride at all. Idolizing white women is such a third world mentality.

>> No.15644455

>>15644315
Because at this rate the NijiEN females are just shitty holoen, now with extra males

>> No.15644471

>>15644035
IRyS weirdly low, what's up with that? Vsinger getting beaten by SOUL specialist Fauna?

>> No.15644504

>Last samurai defending his reclining JPs like his life depended on it
Honestly one of the most pathetic things I've seen on this board. No pride at all. Idolizing yellow women is such an incel mentality.

>> No.15644507

>shark mogged by holoX
what happened JPschizos?
not even with your cull cope

>> No.15644531

>>15644035
Source for Gura 35,825? Stream B is at -- on holo.poi and stream A only got 24.180.
On hololyzer only stream A is up just yet and it's at 24.092 there,

>> No.15644544

>>15643965
ngl, the models looks kinda cute, especially selen

>> No.15644553

>>15644399
Ywnbj

>> No.15644556

>>15644471
brunt of overlaps

>> No.15644579

>>15643767
>>15643887
>>15644026
>>15644328
And it's easier to post about it live. CCV climbs and falls and can be funneled and is just more exciting and dynamic than vod views, which can only be looked at with a bunch of caveats (how long was the stream, before full processing, after processing, after 24h for vod viewers, the list goes on).

>> No.15644582

>>15644255
It's a particularly special event for Nekkos since she was cheated out of her new years outfit last year because of chink drama.

>> No.15644606

>>15644471
Irys, Bae, and Mori all overlapped with Gura and Ame's new years streams
Ame overlapped with Mori and Gura.

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>>15644531
vrabi

>> No.15644614

>>15644471
Gura overlap

>> No.15644613

>>15644582
Too bad not a lot of people are watching lmao

>> No.15644626

>>15644399
>defending Gura
why do you seek the need to besmirch her name?
are you that needy for attention?

>> No.15644653

CCV is useless now. VOD is the truth.

>> No.15644665

>>15644531
https://vrabi.ml/video/qzuayAqYXJY

>> No.15644691

>>15644553
日本人ですけど...

>> No.15644702

>>15644582
funny enough if i remember it right her self drawn new years costume reveal still got more sc than polkas proper one(but less views

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Watch and bot Nene's stream or else. This is a threat.

>> No.15644729

>>15644507
>mogged
If you call getting 4k more on an outfit reveal mogged, then I hope they keep mogging EN like this rather you know..the usual tens of thousands

>> No.15644742

>>15644613
I know I'm not. Just explaining the SCs.

>> No.15644751

>>15644504
>yellow

>> No.15644788

>>15644531
Watch streams

>> No.15644806

>>15644626
Retard pay attention to the last few threads
Do you want me to go look for his embarrassing ddox?

>> No.15644885

>>15643965
Should have gone the coucil way would make them look less "holo lite"

>> No.15644893

Can cover sue youtube for this shit?

>> No.15644930

>>15644605
>>15644665
Thanks.

>> No.15644945

>can't even hit 30k
What happened, I thought she was supposed to hit 40k

>> No.15644958

>>15643965
Hahahahahaha!

>> No.15644978

>>15644626
Last samurai schizo got exposed for being a spic and a chumbud salty over the fact JPchads have been dunking on his oshi over the past year

>> No.15644997

>>15644702
Polka's costume is actually horrible, though. It's worse than Lapluses

>> No.15645005

>>15644945
gokisei debuff

>> No.15645018

6 Holo streams over 1 million yen so far, 3 more over 800k, jezas

>> No.15645092

https://youtu.be/eL8O9cLSOr0
>Predict on Pekora tourney numbers?
40k at least?

>> No.15645134

Eh wait, if the theory of CCV being filter for overseas views in JP, wouldn't it be easier for HoloJP to change their channel into worldwide or something? Of course, it'd be harder for them to trend in Japan, but trends are meaningless.

>> No.15645135

>>15645018
In the end, Cover got the only metrics that matter huh?

>> No.15645161

>>15644788
I am, but on holodex and on the side, so I have to rely on the the #.sites and posts for peaks, please understando.

>> No.15645180

>>15644125
As they say, strike while the gachis are hot.

>> No.15645224

>>15645135
Subs, SC and VOD views. CCV is fucked now but VOD views stayed the same.

>> No.15645225

>>15644806
i've been fire keeping/firework setting for family from before gura started so no i haven't kept track of retards.
>>15644978
why do you keep shitposting?

>> No.15645233

>>15645092
What is this stream? I missed her explanation.

>> No.15645250

Nene, you're going last! Unless that shill stream starts real soon, you don't actually need to do this in 30 minutes!

>> No.15645265

>>15645134
They already trend less in JP than Niji eventho their CCV/views mog Nijis.
If that really is the cause of the issue, then Cover is fucking retarded for not fixing it a year ago when EN was heavily affected by it.

>> No.15645270

I honestly wonder how HoloX and Nene feels, seeing outfit reveal doing such a shitty number while knowing how much those streams normally do

>> No.15645290

>>15645233
Metronome only.

>> No.15645295

>>15645092
Cover is trying really hard to salvage her ass after the yab. It would be better if she just stopped streaming for a few days.

>> No.15645296

>Still bellow 30K
It seems like I've severely underestimated the gokisei debuff

>> No.15645312

>>15645134
Channel country needs to match where you get paid for tax purposes.

>> No.15645313

>>15644553
>>15644691
owned

>> No.15645314

>>15645092
Its not the tourny yet. Probably just a draw in who will face who.

>> No.15645327

>>15645134
it might fuck with their ads and analytics

>> No.15645343

>>15644113
No.

>> No.15645345

>>15643965
i mean, holoEN is probably one of the better models you could hope to follow

>> No.15645353

>>15645180
I don't even watch her and Chloe's outfit made me cum buckets, I can only imagine what it did to her gachis

>> No.15645355

>>15645005
is that nene's alias?

>> No.15645399

>>15645270
I hope HoloX feels bad. I am sad if Nene feels bad.

>> No.15645411

>>15645270
im assuming that at this point this was noticed already by cover and it's been talked internally, or at least i hope, i don't want my girls to be sad

>> No.15645429

>retards in this thread still blindly claiming gen 5 is a success
kek

>> No.15645431

>>15645092
Pretty hard, even Chloe can't reach 40K with NY outfit ( lowest 2021 was Towa 57K )

>> No.15645459

>>15643965
>>15644885
If they went with weird models they would be coping council.

>> No.15645462

>>15645092
Around 30k realistically. So don't get disappointed

>> No.15645481

>>15645092
i give up on predictions, shit's fucked

>> No.15645512

hey gen 5 schizo, welcome back

>> No.15645525

>>15645092
After seeing HoloX's costume reveal numbers, if Pekora gets 40k with that, it'll be a miracle.

>> No.15645542

>>15644507
39k for an outfit reveal against a karaoke is not something to be proud about anonchama......

>> No.15645573

>>15645270
If I'm Cover I've already sent out an all-hands bulletin warning everyone that CCV is fucked and not to worry about it or mention it on stream. Of course Cover is probably incompetent but no one at all has really talked about it today so... hopefully they just pay no mind while management tries to pry an answer out of YouTube.

>> No.15645601

Council here's your chance to redeem yourselves. Get an outfit already

>> No.15645610

>>15645312
>>15645327
Good points. Shit. They can't even change that. Maybe the reason why Gura gets shit views is because her channel is based in Japan.

>> No.15645615

Is CCV really that important, ad-sense wise?

>> No.15645634

Not really related to number but anyone said Pekora yab killed the company also implied that Nousagi was actually the force that boost entire JP branch
It make me feel oddly proud of them

>> No.15645709

>>15645270
I'm sure they will be able to wipe their tears with all the bills they're getting.

>> No.15645721

>>15645615
The only think CCV matters for is egos and shitposting.

>> No.15645722

>>15645542
Pekora's shit utawaku with announcement buff can reach 60K so what's Gura excuse??

>> No.15645724

>>15645615
No, vod viewcount is more related to ads than CCV is. Technically vod watch time is the most related but that's not public facing.

>> No.15645735

>>15645615
No, you only get ads at the beginning of a stream.

>> No.15645782

>>15645615
No, vod views generate more ad revenues than live streams.

>> No.15645781

I really love all the Council vs Myth vs HoloX as of late.

>> No.15645785

well, she managed to beat koyo, no where near gozaru and orca tho

>> No.15645796

>>15645634
why are you proud of youtubekids userbase?

>> No.15645817

>>15645615
Nope, Holos/Nijis doesn't even promote things on their stream like putting up brand names on their screens so it's kinda pointless.

>> No.15645824

>>15645270
Nene will probably kill herself, she was already on the verge of doing so over her shit numbers a few months ago

>> No.15645825

>>15645615
CCV has always been pointless to advertisers.
sub-2000 CCV Niji livers get the same sponsorships as Kuzuha and Kanae.
Anya and NijiEN get the same gacha game sponsorships as Gura.
When Gura did her taco bell sponsorship, her CCV was already far lower than her peak, but it's still one of the biggest Holo sponsorships to date.

Also, Nene squeezing the fuck out of this costume for all its worth but the CCV isn't budging.

>> No.15645852

>>15643965
Gotta leave to the males to introduce something actually new in nijiEN

>> No.15645877

Outfit reveals get culled harder than other streams because they usually spike hard when the reveal comes but whatever this change is stops streams from quickly inclining. Something like a tournament will still be culled of course but not as badly

>> No.15645936
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>>15645634
Well it was gen 3 that got hit the hardest out of them all, the others didn't drop this hard.

>> No.15645986

>>15645615
not really. they have access to channel analytics (unique viewers/location/watch time etc) which is mostly what advertisers want to look at. they probably have unique viewers > CCV for a time now due to CCV fuckery

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>> No.15646021

Oh wow, Gura's stream actually did get suspended for a minute. If you look at the vod the missing part is there. It seems like she thought chat was reacting to the usual youtube connection issues and not a ban.

>> No.15646046

Do Indie vtubers envy the kind of SC rain from nene/Chloe?

>> No.15646057

>>15517242
>>15522895
The schizo who keeps shitting the thread.

>> No.15646055

>>15645877
Well, NJU still inclined to 100k within 15 minutes last night, but that could just mean that it was already culled and the real CCV is much higher.

>> No.15646064

>>15645722
Announcement was mentioned few days before the stream, she put karaoke info on the thumbnail later.
More like announcement feat.karaoke

>> No.15646084

>>15646046
>does the poor envy the rich
You tell me, anon

>> No.15646099

>>15646009
Sana....

>> No.15646104

>>15646046
Indies envy everything about Hololive.

>> No.15646113

On the bright side, normalfags such as plebbittor and faggot that make top x streamer can't numberfags with Vtuber anymore thus ultimately reduce tourist influx

>> No.15646120

>>15645936
flare had that sub 1k stream (though it went over after a long stream time) which was just amazing to see

>> No.15646148

>>15646009
just graduate sana already jesus christ

>> No.15646145

>>15645825
Mio stuck at 9k for hours now.

>> No.15646167

>>15646021
It's a cover suspension so it's an easy matter to clean up, so i doubt Gura was particularly worried.
Azki ran into the same issues during her marathon streams and it wasn't a big issue then either

>> No.15646171

>>15646046
>Do indies envy Holos getting $30,000 for dragging a new model on to the screen
Yes, yes they do

>> No.15646180

>Nene only lost 3k viewers after face reveal
DYRBI?

>> No.15646193

>59k Christmas Live on the 21st
>33k Christmas Karaoke Relay on the 25th
>28k New Years Outfit Relay on the 1st
Sure youtube.

>> No.15646236

NENE POLL

>> No.15646264

>>15645796
Where did that rrat even come from?

>> No.15646267

NENE POSTED A POLL THIS IS NOT A DRILL. REAL NUMBERS INCOMING

>> No.15646269

>>15646009
Nijien can't break 10k combine? Sad

>> No.15646281

POLL POLL POLL

>> No.15646286

2 million yen for Nene
>>15646046
There's plenty of small indies that get a ton of SC compared to their fanbase, obviously can't compare to top Holos though

>> No.15646353

>100% poll in 1 minute
Nene I love you

>> No.15646359
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100% ENGAGEMENT

>> No.15646373
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15646373

I fucking love youtube

>> No.15646374
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15646374

Susan...

>> No.15646378

>>15646064
point still stand. On the other side we have one of the best EN singer plus announcement but still can't break 40K

>> No.15646383

lol poll is proving the cull is true, >100% in 1min

>> No.15646386
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>> No.15646389

100% engagement in 1 minute for a JP poll? Lmfao

>> No.15646412

>>15645936
Most of the time Nousagi tend to love other gen 3 as well since they are pretty close
Like an old saying, people who watch Peko only watch her and the people that are close to her

>> No.15646414

Nene just made a poll 2 mins in 24k votes already with only 23k ccv

>> No.15646417
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2 minutes, holy

>> No.15646423

RUMAO POLL OUTNUMBERED CCV IN 15 SECS

>> No.15646429
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15646429

Huh

>> No.15646443

>looks like a hag and not in a good way
Is this another debuff outfit for Nene? Why is her mama like this?

>> No.15646444

AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
POLLS SHOULD BE MANDATORY NOW

>> No.15646458

>1 minute
>23k ccv
>23k votes

>> No.15646465
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15646465

110% participation in 1 min.

>> No.15646475

>>15646373
Hello Andy

>> No.15646479

>26k votes but 22k are watching
Absolutely ebin Susan.

>> No.15646493

>nene poll 100% in 1 minute
>the cull is real

>> No.15646512
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15646512

kek

>> No.15646513

>>15646373
Hi Andy Ng

>> No.15646534

>>15646443
Stop being a homo

>> No.15646535
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3 minute poll
fuck you susan

>> No.15646540

>>15646373
vietbro...

>> No.15646550

>>15646373
Andychama...

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rumao

>> No.15646569

Youtube exposed again

>> No.15646574

>>15646373
Taiwanese?

>> No.15646590

SEAnigger-kun doxxing himself....

>> No.15646601

When was the last time the cull happen??

>> No.15646605

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT TO BELIEVEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.15646610

FUCK YOU SUSAN!

>> No.15646618

>27k votes
>23k watching
>Within 2 mins, no chance of churn
Clap clap next meme!

>> No.15646620

>>15646512
The power of democracy

>> No.15646619

>>15646512
kek tweet this pic to teamyoutube

>> No.15646629

>>15646373
>andy
top kek

>> No.15646634

>>15646550
>>15646513
>>15646475
Bros.. I'm already embarassed when people say react Andy
Don't do me like this

>> No.15646648

>>15646590
kek

>> No.15646649

>>15646359
Yeah, CCVs are fake numbers. Number threads are pointless now

>> No.15646652

Based Nene proving the cull

>> No.15646670

>>15646574
TW bros have always been here

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>>15646167
Cover is pretty fast at handling this. One of the staffs is watching the streams.

>> No.15646724

>>15646574
Close.
Leaf HKer that hates bugs

>> No.15646734

Number thread is dead. It was fun ya all.

>> No.15646735

>>15646417
So Nene actually got 60-70k viewers?

>> No.15646756

>peko poll
>Bae poll
>Kroni poll
>Nene poll
This is my ratt. Cover ask their talents to come up with excuses to post poll so that they can observe whether the cull theory is true or not

>> No.15646763

>>15646724
Based doxchama

>> No.15646771

>twitch poll
>20% engagement

>Holo polls
>120% engagement (in 2 minutes no less)
Numberbros......

>> No.15646780

>>15646373
>>15646634
Damn you're lucky you have such a common name

>> No.15646783

> Nene poll gets as many votes as CCV in just TWO MINUTES
shit's fucked

>> No.15646795

>>15646513
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_(name)

>> No.15646808

this thread is now pointless since all CCV is just imaginary bullshit

>> No.15646810

Give me the nigger who said 5ch is laughing at our cull theory.
Where are you now bitch?
Who's laughing now bitch?

>> No.15646838

>>15646756
And the worst one was the JP poll, by far. Makes sense.

>> No.15646869

>ENs were still putting up a fight for an entire year despite being disproportionately culled
Kneel

>> No.15646902

AIEEEEEEEEEE YT LIVE IS BECOMING BILIBILI

NEXT THING YOU KNOW CCV IS HIDDEN, AND POPULARITY POINTS IS ADDED

>> No.15646914

>CCV
Maybe the real metric we need to use from now is poll

>> No.15646915

Numbros... What is our purpose now.. ?

>> No.15646916

>>15646574
You know, SEA and some JP are /here/, so TW is not an exception

>> No.15646924

>>15646783
It means she almost certainly had at least 50k watching her in reality

>> No.15646926

I'm surprised anybody needed that poll to be convinced.

>> No.15646931

>>15646783
>as many
20% more anon

>> No.15646963

>>15646808
literally fanfiction

>> No.15646962

This reminds me, is NJU part 2 still deleted?

>> No.15646964

Welp at least ame reach 10k just now.

>> No.15646970

>>15646915
We can still numberfag SCs.

>> No.15646971

Assuming the cull is true, they can't be culling EN viewers in this stream because there aren't going to be that many EOPs watching and voting on a poll entirely in Japanese.

>> No.15646980

does this mean the niji concert actually should have gotten more

>> No.15646981

>>15646735
haha i dont know man. but getting 25k votes in mere 2 minutes with only 23k viewers is impossible in that speed

>> No.15646982

Goddamn did you see that fucking waiting room cut?

>> No.15646990

Has YT ever addressed this problem?

>> No.15646999

Andy Ng is a gay Singaporean aka the mutt of Asia

>> No.15647008

>>15646915
Just follow the VOD views. They are still the most consistent metrics.

>> No.15647038

SUSAN you cunt!

>> No.15647047

>>15646869
Give it up anon, it's literally happening to JPs now but they won't admit it, the EN recline narrative is based on /hlg/ anger at Gura mogging everyone

>> No.15647067

>>15646980
The bots and the culling cancel each other out.

>> No.15647071

>>15646902
Removing dislikes was the first step
The next will be removing the live view count

>> No.15647088

>>15646971
>Assuming
Nene just got 27k votes within 2 minutes on a stream that said she only had 23k watching. There's no assumptions to be made anymore, the cull is real and has been demonstrated beyond all doubt.

>> No.15647091

>>15639917
If you prefer Average CCV you might as well go for Watched Hours.

>> No.15647098

>>15646999
anon,Andy & Ng is pretty common, this is asia

>> No.15647108

>>15646970
Or not because the fucking gooks haven't put up the monthly or annual numbers yet ffs...

>> No.15647109

>>15646980
more or less, but we actually don't know if it's true that streams views are filtered by overseas viewers and the reason niji wasn't affected was because they were watched by Japanese people

>> No.15647114

>Last samurais can't stop losing
Fucking love to see it.

>> No.15647126

>>15646980
yes, their increase in SC + VOD and CCV was not proportional

>> No.15647147

but how the fuck do you numberfag VODs tho, do you like divide them by the amount of hours, do you just numberfag the totals, do you cutoff at 24 hours or more, i don't know man

>> No.15647156

>>15646915
Now, we just enjoy the streams.

>> No.15647175

>>15646981
People tabbed in to vote, then tabbed out. New algorithm simply culls out tab-in tab-out behavior.

>> No.15647196

>>15647114
Cope, spicschizo, you can't even use numberfagging sites correctly
Get out of here and post another "my wife" thread or something

>> No.15647213

>>15646980
susan forgot to flag a dead channel, you'll know next year

>> No.15647225

>>15646999
anon there are fifty fucking andy ngs on youtube how do you know which one?

>> No.15647234

>lower ccv
>leave vod views untouched
for what purpose?
wouldn't the opposite make more sense to cull bots?

>> No.15647296

>>15647147
Number of viewers after x time. x hours, days, weeks, months

>> No.15647300

>>15646980
They should've unironically won the month with more than 200k, I refuse to believe a stream that was hyped for an entire year with 60 ish members got less than peko's outfit reveal
t.holofag

>> No.15647309

OK, now that has proven the shit is happening for real the main question still remains. Why?

>> No.15647323

>>15647147
You don't compare, just appreciate big numbers.

>Unity meta.
Gura's debut stream - 4.6 mil? I kneel.
Kuzuha 12 hour celeb Apex tournament VOD - 4.4 mil? I kneel
NJU 2020 -3.7 mil? I kneel
HoloEN Smol Anniversary - 1.7 mil? I kneel.

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>>15647109
Affected nijis have a sizeable eop/tw fanbase e.g kuzuha, kanae, toya

>> No.15647377

>>15646926
Proof cements what you think is true.

>> No.15647418

>>15647234
My theory is that the live viewer count is resource intensive, so they decided to put a fake one based on predictions from the starting viewership and simulate growth

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Damn, Fubuki actually got more new subs than Gura in the last 30 days.

>> No.15647442

>>15647323
Doesn't this mean that Ochame Kinou moggs everything?

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748 members from the waiting room

>> No.15647450

would be fucking nice if youtube would tell people about changes like this. even once would be fucking nice. god i fucking hate Susan and her pajeets

>> No.15647453

CCV is a lie.......are we living in china right now?

>> No.15647456

Pekora back at waiting room numbers

>> No.15647491

CCV is a joke
Youtube is a joke

Does this thread still have purpose?

>> No.15647525

>>15647453
YT will become Bilibili with their meaningless "live viewers"

>> No.15647529

>>15647491
Number's thread died...

>> No.15647546

>>15647234
VOD views actually do get culled.
Pekora's Jump King VODs got culled (people were looking forward to Pekora getting triple 1 mil VODs).
Kuzuha's R6S tournament VOD got culled.
All of the Holo sport fes VODs got 100-200k culled.
Niji Mario Kart finals 2021 had 2.9 mil a few days ago and it's now 2.8 mil.

>> No.15647552

>>15647147
24 hours is a safe bet. Your view is counted only once if you haven't finished watching the whole video. Upper limit is five times (shorts, clips, songs, etc). Steam vods rarely get recurring views.

>> No.15647565

>>15647418
this. chip shortage and shit, can't get new servers currently.

>> No.15647573

>>15647453
Worse. We're living in Globohomo

>> No.15647574

>>15647234
might be a bug they introduced but these pajeets are too retarded to fix it

>> No.15647584

>>15647491
We're going back to subs, SC and vod views.

>> No.15647601

>>15647377
The comparison between CCV and every other number was more than proof enough, but I guess you can't expect people to have enough of an attention span to look at more than a couple of numbers at at time.

>> No.15647614

>>15647491
This thread's only purpose is containment anonchama

>> No.15647629

>>15647442
For now, yes.
But Kuzuha's KING is on track to pass it in a few months.

>> No.15647654

>>15647234
lazy pajeet coding

>> No.15647659

>>15647574
>bug
feature*

>> No.15647664

>>15647175
how would someone know there's a vote if they are tabbed out in the first place

>> No.15647678

>>15647546
>All of the Holo sport fes VODs got 100-200k culled.
to be fair, those streams had legitimate chink bots.

>> No.15647684

Holy shit lmao Nene getting 27k votes in 1min while having 23k viewers is the most blatant viewer fuckery I've seen in my life. Well done YouTube.

>> No.15647689

>>15647453
YT will turn to use bili system within this year

>> No.15647694

>>15646980
Yes. The VOD views that resulted was close to Koshien, which was a 250k CCV stream

>> No.15647743

>>15647684
>he doesn't watch EN
ENs were hit far worse, double the votes compared to viewers

>> No.15647767

All this time gura 20k=45k+

>> No.15647771

Imagine each votes are counted twice lmao

>> No.15647773

>>15647491
Repurpose it to "numbers and unity"

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I'm actually kind of glad.

CCV being permanently fucked this severely means I can finally stop caring about numbers. I can just try and enjoy streams for fun. I'm free.

This feels like fucking post-nut clarity right now.

>> No.15647798

Ame guerrilla karaoke 10K

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how come avg. view is lower than lowest vod view

>> No.15647823

By the way, Pekora and Okayu going at sub 20k. Not that it means anything anymore.

>> No.15647840

From now on, we put a zero behind every hololive CCV. Pekora's current stream is at 190k.

>> No.15647857

>>15647767
Gura 100k costume reveal....200k+???

>> No.15647868

>>15647767
>Chumbuds were right about the cull all this time
C-Chumbros, I...

>> No.15647884
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>>15647684
>>15647743

>> No.15647888

>>15647778
Just remember they won't stream to no one and they won't do it for free. Watch your favorites and give them a dollar here and there if you can.

>> No.15647898

>>15647823
20k now and they passed the waiting room number in 12 minutes
That's considered pretty good these days lmao

>> No.15647905

>>15647810
That number is probably from a previous period. Playboard doesn't update its statistics in real time.

>> No.15647906

CCV is fucking dead, good job YouTube. Now I can go back to watching 2views and pretend they have 5k viewers.

>> No.15647919

Anyone have the updated list for HoloEN SC numbers for december?

>> No.15647931

>2022 begins
>/#/ goes through an existential crisis

>> No.15647937

>>15647491
Just make it general vtuber event & news thread

>> No.15647939

>>15647664
eop-chama, she said it out loud

>> No.15647965

>>15647810
They going to cut vod views soon enough.

>> No.15647968

>>15647884
you've got to be kidding anon...

>> No.15647981

>subs and vods dont matter CCV does
Where are your gods now, /#/? Whats funny is that everyone has always numberfagged subs except 4chan and 5ch schizos. Including the companies themselves, and the talent. Did this not clue you in on what really mattered?

>> No.15647983

Is 100% or 200% engagement for YT polls considered good as compared to twitch standards? All I understand is that there's 24k people clicking on the poll in under 1 minute meaning there were literally 24k watching the stream.

>> No.15647990

>>15647823
Wait till she starts the game

>> No.15648011

how many times has bubba been bonked this stream?

>> No.15648031

>>15647823
That is pretty good number

>> No.15648037

>>15647767
Not enough proof, cope.

>> No.15648042

>>15647884
Yeah but for how long was this up? In these threads Gura getting 12k in 5 minutes was considered impressive.

>> No.15648053

>>15647990
They're not playing the game anon. This is just for drawing the brackets for the tournament.

>> No.15648058

now we wait to see how much Stream Hatchet rigged Pekora's hours on Q4

>> No.15648063

>EN's CCV was actually cut in half post December 2020 and only now that the JPs are getting hit with something simillar are faggots itt taking notice
kek, you love to see it

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>>15647453
>>15647491
>>15647525

>> No.15648114

>>15648031
Unironically costume reveal tier.

>> No.15648117

>>15647981
More like subs clearly matter so no one bother discuss it
Not like anyone can beat Gura sub anyway. CCV is generally more fun to watch and discuss, it's like a race

>> No.15648120

>>15647810
>THB
SEAnigger or sexpat?

>> No.15648139

>last samurais already on their knees
Keep kneeling

>> No.15648145

>>15647436
Shiny Magikarp PAIN was one hell of an event.

>> No.15648147

>>15647906
Nijibros..

>> No.15648149

>Pekora just hit 20k
WTF our queen is back?

>> No.15648160

>>15648058
kek your oshi will never get there

>> No.15648171

>>15648063
People created this narrative to cope, JP got hit as well last year. JP got nerfed twice actually.

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Happy New Year, /#/! I hope you love the NY present that I have prepared. It's similar to what I made for 2021, but with a little twist. Oh, and I bet you can't wait for 2023.

>> No.15648183

And what makes you think poll numbers are reliable?

>> No.15648214

>>15647491
technically, the thread lost its purpose back when coco graduated.

>> No.15648217

>>15647983
>>15646771
smaller comunities tend to have more engagement but i doubt thats the case here.

>> No.15648224

>>15648171
>JP got hit as well last year
No proof

>> No.15648223

>>15648149
22k for an announcement stream like this is "bad" by old standards.
For comparison, the Niji equivalent gets 40-80k.
Towa got 40k last week for Holo MK tournament.

Ofc, CCV is fucked so nothing matters.

>> No.15648228

>>15647436
Not the first time its happened. Haachama out paced Gura in subs during the schizo arc. Nobody can maintain it like Gura does though which is why she is closing in on 4 million.

>> No.15648255

>JPfags finally have to experience what EN has for the past year

Hope you have fun being constantly told your favorite chuubas are on the decline and audiences just don't care about them any more and they were just the beneficiaries of being trendy

>> No.15648260

>>15648053
Oh. What am I even doing here then lol? And why did virtually everyone clear their schedule for this?

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You filthy cartoon loving neckbeards don't belong on my platform, get out.

>> No.15648296

>>15646926
this one was probably the most severe case.
Others had screenshots that were missing the current CCV, or were taken at 5 mins to 15 mins, so despite the fuckery there was still some room for doubt.
This one was two fucking minutes long, and got 27k votes, while the CCV was 23k.
That means at LEAST 27k people LOGGED IN TO YOUTUBE were watching the stream.

>> No.15648311

>>15648183
>requires actual viewer participation
>twitch streamers can't even get this level of poll particiption
>you need to be logged-in to vote on a poll
retardchama...

>> No.15648319

>>15648260
No one usually streams at this time except for Pekora and Subaru.
It's Sat afternoon.

>> No.15648329

>>15648183
what makes you think it's not?

>> No.15648352

>>15648224
please nigger. everytime the proof is posted you just ignore it and keep baiting

>> No.15648354

>>15648139
your oshi already got shat on poorchama...

>> No.15648361

>>15646980
despite all the 39 shitposting, I think it should've gotten at least 200k, especially with that lineup (their chat moving slow a f is still suspicious though).

>> No.15648372

>>15648255
The rest is true but they still were.

>> No.15648374

Are you feeling it now mr krabs?

>> No.15648400

So 25k people were logged in on YouTube, had the tab open and clicked the poll and that still wasn't enough for YouTube. These guys lmao.

>> No.15648411

>>15648255
And this is happening not even one month after their chosen powerhouse gen "holooks" had their numbers crater

>> No.15648417

CULLCHADS WON, NUMBERS ARE DEAD

>> No.15648422

>Chumbuds were right all along about the culling
I mean, it should have been obvious from Gura's absolutely explosive VOD growth despite sometimes middling CCV that she was getting much higher viewership than youtube was showing us.

>> No.15648441

>holo abandons minecraft for 2 months
>they went to jun instead...

>> No.15648447

>>15646980
https://imgur.com/WzevhJX

>> No.15648449

does this mean that council didn't fail as hard as we thought

>> No.15648457

>>15648422
No? Even chumbuds reasoned that her audience is worldwide and the VODs are the product of that

>> No.15648476

>>15647196
Can we get some tissues for the last samurai crying here?

>> No.15648480

>>15648354
Stop being in denial, EN was mogging JP every day for the past year because of the cull. They're back on top now that the playing field is equal.

>> No.15648492

Today's Holo SC totals over 250k yen (so far)

Chloe - 3,197,224
Nene - 2,542,184
Mori - 1,650,509
Lamy - 1,610,881
Iroha - 1,515,595
Koyori - 1,500,577
Subaru - 1,440,645
Gura - 1,081,743
Lui - 887,913
Laplus - 877,821
Ame - 726,937
Miko - 617,698
Kiara - 556,475
Kanata - 475,755
Sana - 469,808
IRyS - 370,950
Kronii - 368,931
Ina - 330,636
Fauna - 274,200
Mumei - 257,998
Matsuri - 259,029
Mio - 251,453

>> No.15648497

>>15648457
they call it a cope, lose-lose

>> No.15648500

>>15647491
This thread is just falseflaggers fighting against each other

>> No.15648518

>>15648449
They still failed since holox already catch up in subs, vod views and they already surpassed them in SC

>> No.15648524

>>15648422
Gura-sama...my kneels...

>> No.15648529

>>15648447
By this logic, Ame and Gura earlier tonight had higher CCV than the NYE ball drop because their chats were both faster than the chat of a stream with 1.25 million CCV.

>> No.15648534

>>15648352
JPs did get hit but not as much on average as ENs, not even looking at the fact that Gura and Watson were inclining pre december cull

>> No.15648573

remind me again why hololive and nijisanji don't just stream on twitch?

>> No.15648575

>>15648492
>over 3m and she's doing another stream today
jesas

>> No.15648599

>>15648492
This may be the only remaining metric we can actually trust any more.

>> No.15648604

>>15648422
We told you about the polls, the vods, the ridiculous sub growth and art/clip popularity. But all you heard was cope. Well its fine if you want to pretend culls don't exist now, looks like Gura is back to being a big hitter because Susan evened the playing field

>> No.15648606

EN gets harassed pretty often by youtube, and they just keep going like nothing has happened.
JP makes a fuss every time they get harassed by youtube, and shit is "fixed ".
I hope JP makes a fuss about CCV, which leads to the whole company gets whitelisted from whatever filter youtube is using.

>> No.15648608

>>15648492
We've not even started primetime yet....

>> No.15648632

>>15648457
That was one explanation, but clearly not enough to explain why Gura's VODs end with 400k views already and incline to 600-800k sometimes despite peaking at 22k CCV.

>> No.15648638

>>15648476
your oshi still gets fucked hard by JPcock, not sure what you mean spicschizo

>> No.15648656

>>15648573
japanese companies cant get into twitch

>> No.15648672

>>15648573
not worth it, ccv is only for numberfagging soul

>> No.15648681

>>15648573
No one likes troontown

>> No.15648686

>>15648573
>he wants Hololive and Nijisanji to be subjected to Twitch culture

>> No.15648694

>>15648573
Because their audience is not on twitch retard

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>>15648575
$206 away from $300k

>> No.15648726

>>15648573
no VOD for greys
splitting viewership on non chink market

>> No.15648761

I'm sorry for doubting the cullfags...

>> No.15648764

>>15648518
By that logic is Gen 5 a failure because Myth surpassed them in a short time?

>> No.15648766

>Marine joins stream
>CCV doesn't move
That's new kek

>> No.15648769

>supposedly huge tournament involving a lot of different members
>Okayu with her
>still hasn't hit 30k 25 mins in and likely won't
Cull or cold chicken? You be the judge.

>> No.15648771

>>15648476
>gets outed as a retard
>"you-you're crying!"
You're the minority, schizo.

>> No.15648798

>>15648573
Twitch viewers tend to be more toxic than the YouTube viewers.

>> No.15648814

>>15648606
Did youtube ever listened to anything vtuber corpos said?

>> No.15648844

Damn, ccv the was the most fun to numberfag about...

>> No.15648853

>>15648764
Compared to Myth, no shit. Got kneecapped by an early graduation while being compared to the lightning-in-a-bottle of a gen

>> No.15648864

>>15647983
The highest Twitch poll engagement I'm personally aware of is in the 50-60% of CCV range for a monthly gameshow that uses Twitch polls + channel point betting (Will it Kill?, Sajam, 3k-4k CCV). I'd love to know if there's an example of higher Twitch poll engagement.

>> No.15648873

>>15648766
Same thing happened when she joined Iroha's totsu which was one of the things that really first got alarm bells ringing

>> No.15648877

>>15648771
Whatever makes you sleep at night samurai

>> No.15648907

>>15648844
Don't worry anon, they just evened the playing field for JP and EN

>> No.15648925

>>15648766
Peko's stream?

>> No.15648941

>>15648814
Cover has the weight of SC revenue to actually throw around now, if they actually want to press the issue. Their chuubas are the largest SC earners on the entire platform to a significant degree.

Unfortunately, Japanese companies being Japanese companies means Cover won't push it.

>> No.15648938

>>15648492
Wow, go Sana!

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Ame getting 10k right now...no one wants to kneel??

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>>15648534
you fucking nigger. here a stream from jp that got axed 50% of their viewers
>>15473142
here go timeloop in that thread

>> No.15648997

>>15638113
>>15638100
but its not a recline because they are getting the same views. its literally just CCV that has been cut in half.

>> No.15649005

>>15648877
seethe and cope

>> No.15649007

>>15648925
Mio

>> No.15649014

>>15648814
they got youtube to implement their bug zapper on coco and fubuki channel

>> No.15649023

PAKORA
LA REINA DE LAS GALINAS

>> No.15649050

>>15648925
Pekora's

>> No.15649057

>>15648907
Except Niji doesn't seem to be seeing the same degree of culls across the board so far. Silverboy only saw a 20% hit compared to Holomem seeing upwards of 40-50%, when it seems like this was first implemented.

>> No.15649095

>>15648764
Even 5ch deems gen 5 a failure, you'd have to be in denial to think they didn't absolutely waste golden opportunity they were handed.

>> No.15649140

>>15647983
The reason we know 100% or 200% is stupidly absurd is because on Twitch a 60% poll is considered stream-defining high, and you literally cannot hit 100% because 20-30% of viewers on large streams aren't even logged in. More commonly you'll see maybe 30-40% over 5 minutes or so, but I've seen as low as 10%.

>> No.15649161

>>15648964
The real kneel is her likes surpassed her peak CCV in 1 hour
>13k likes
>10.2k peak

>> No.15649169

>>15648941
Youtube should have been asking their top SC earners instead of twitchfags for feedback on their future policies and feature implementations

>> No.15649190

>>15649095
>Even 5ch

>> No.15649203

>>15648864
Keep in mind this stream RELIES on viewer participation even if the viewers don't want to participate on a given round, we also have nyanner's poll which had 10% in a minute whereas most holoen members pre nu-cull were getting 70% and even more on the same time frame

>> No.15649217

>>15649005
Wonder who's seething here? Projecting yourself unto others is bad for your mental health last samurai.

>> No.15649246

>>15648994
Show me a poll where JP gets 200% engagement in 5 minutes. Oh wait you can't.

>> No.15649266

>>15648994
Polka is not all JP. Maybe Polka got the same treatment as EN last years

>> No.15649273

>>15639243
>Risu dead last
Treerat...

>> No.15649288

>>15649217
Where's your membership, retard? I thought Gura was your queen or something?

>> No.15649303

>>15648573
>stream on twitch
>twitch is full of kids and just chatting simps
>they see vtubers trending and beating their favorite streamers or e-thots every day
>they start raiding their chats and harassing the viewers
Something like what happened when projekt melody debuted on chaturbate

>> No.15649321

>>15648994
>Polka
>EOP panderer
Of course she'd get culled hard, most of her viewers were shared with EN

>> No.15649335

>>15649169
Youtube is clearly embarrassed by vtubers, if it hasn't been plainly clear already.

There's a reason they basically refuse to show vtuber streams on their trending/recommended live stream pages even when they're mogging every other stream being featured in CCV.

>> No.15649373

New year is over
People will come back right?

>> No.15649386

Watching many of the early poll vs CCV numbers, the worst part is that the culling number seems very random on every stream, it's not even some % based on views.
CCV should always be taken with a grain of salt from now on and not the old "CCV is all that matters".

>> No.15649398

YOUTUBE IS KILLING VTUBER VEIWS. HOLOLIVE IS BEING TARGETED BECAUSE OF GURA. THEY DON'T WANT THE GENERAL PERCEPTION OF YOUTUBE GAMING TO BE ANIME GIRLS. THEY WANT LUDWIG AND THE DOC TO BE THEIR STARS. ITS OVER #

>> No.15649405

>>15649335
>Youtube is clearly embarrassed by vtubers, if it hasn't been plainly clear already.
I wouldn't be surprised if some faggot Youtube exec personally hates vtubers and tells the pajeets to keep the anime shit off the front page

>> No.15649408

>>15649373
Sorry dude, this is the new normal

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>>15649266
>>15473051
Lamys stream. as you notice at the exactly same time as Polkas.

>> No.15649478

JWU why is Chloe's outfit reveal only 39k? This is Polka tier. Did Pakora actually kill Hololive?

>> No.15649479

>>15649169
Gura is a loli.

>> No.15649539

>Hololive and niji-events are getting too powerful
>New arc starts
>Youtube puts limiters at the start
>Now we can watch them incline again all the way to the end of the year.
Based Susan fighting powercreep to keep things interesting.

>> No.15649542

>>15647341
some additional info. i said i'd believe this cull when hachi regular singing stream averages 1k (her original jp fanbase)
her recent incline was from a clip on tw holo clipper channel. she did reach ~1.7k after 30mins.
maybe they increased the number of minutes for non-local viewer to count as a live viewer?
and here's my rrat on the rest of the missing viewers: maybe because of the typical holo watcher behaviour (due to box pushing) they are marked as spam/bot view.

>> No.15649547

>>15648994
Anon, she was allready reclining pre december cull whereas Gura and Ame were inclining, Mori and Ina were stabilizing, and Kiara was the only one reclining

>> No.15649551

>>15649479
They don't want to touch that shit. Titty stream is ok.

>> No.15649597

>They brought out the wheel, a JP favourite
>CCV still stuck under 30k

>> No.15649609

>>15649478
If only the truth were so convenient >>15646373

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>>15648573
>>15648656
there are twitch shill on 5ch too now

>> No.15649625

>>15649547
>She was reclining, that's why 50% of her viewers got thanos snapped in the middle of a stream
You're the most pathetic piece of shit.

>> No.15649631

>>15649456
So did their numbers got culled again like the other JPs? They seem normal to me.

>> No.15649632

>>15649478
>jwu
>pako
sure man

>> No.15649661

Mio's tarot reading failing to hit 10k is the most annoying thing that has happened to me all day.

>> No.15649663

>>15649547
I didn't know a gradual recline could lead to your half your viewers literally quitting your stream midway, that's pretty impressive.

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December superchats, finally the gooks woke up. I'll have the usual full list ready to post shortly and hopefully the 2021 numbers will be up soon.

>> No.15649719

It sounds like pene to me

>> No.15649732

>>15649405
The reality is that vtubers push away the audience that Youtube actually wants. Allowing a niche (that is broadly seen as weird or uncomfortable to casual audiences or your typical mobile user) to dominate your platform presents the exact opposite image that Youtube wants for Youtube Gaming or their live offerings in general.

Youtube wants to be the corporate platform that services as large and broad a swath of demographics as they possibly can. It's Google's single greatest strength as an advertising platform. Wacky anime girls dominating the platform does the opposite of that.

>> No.15649738

>>15649668
jesas

>> No.15649743

>>15649398
Some of these streamers literally collabed with politicians ahead of an election, playing Among Us, so it does need to be watched closely.

>> No.15649747

>>15649668
>need more than $110k to get into the top ten
Ahaha

>> No.15649754

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF PAKORA
NOT EVEN A LOTTERY CAN SAVE HER

>> No.15649769

>Pekora avg 25k
>Kuzuha avg 15k
we're back to early 2020 numbers.

>> No.15649781

>>15649668
Rui...

>> No.15649788

Pego almost 30k.

>> No.15649793

So we just have to multiply current CCV by 2 and we get a more or less reasonable approximation of what its pre-cull CCV would be?

>> No.15649809

>>15646443
found the homo

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>>15649288
You really are a retard lmao. The only membership I have is Suisei's. Not everyone who looks down on a Samurai like you is a chumbud. Why are you obsessed with Gura and her fanbase anyway?

>> No.15649826

>>15648814
Yes. Youtube fraudulently deleted Kiara's channel and then restored it in a matter of hours. Indie chuuba take weeks to get their channels back, and often don't get them back at all. At this point it's pretty clear that Cover has direct contact to Youtube management.

>> No.15649843

>>15649668
any gen with a runt that fell harder than lui

>> No.15649848

>>15649793
The cull isn't nearly consistent enough to even begin to project what real numbers *should* be

>> No.15649851

>>15649456
Dumbass, Lamy was already reclining pre december cull and she didn't even get culled that hard, she averaged 10k in september, 7000 in november and 6300 in december, a massive far cry from Gura's 43k in september, 46k in november to 25k in december with almost no change in her other metrics

>> No.15649850

>>15649793
No, number culling is random and on case basis

>> No.15649852

>>15649668
Lui..., the strongest hag, Fubuki, can't even enter top 10. GFE + unicorn meta is too strong.

>> No.15649874

>>15649732
Cover should have invested on a new streaming platform for vtuber instead of that dumb game.

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>>15649668
PINK
DOG

>> No.15649908

>>15649788
30k get.

>> No.15649922

>>15649851
>>15649663

>> No.15649937

>>15649732
If Cover was smart they'd be working on their own front end streaming platform. Rent out some servers from AWS and take complete control of the distribution of their content. They could even make it a joint venture with Nijisanji and make it a vtuber exclusive platform. Continuing to give 30% of their streaming revenue to Youtube when Youtube is actively trying to hobble them and stop their growth is just retarded

>> No.15649939

>>15649874
Half of Cover's success with Hololive has been discoverability through clipping and the resulting algorithm feedback loop. Isolating themselves on their own platform would destroy Hololive.

>> No.15649945

>>15649843
Council

>> No.15649954

>>15649908
31k now

>> No.15649979

>>15649754
your shark gets shat on and you don't even support her :( oh wait it's because you are a spic lol cope greyname poorfag shitter.

>> No.15649993

>>15643826
>>15643826
>>15643826
this might be of interest

>> No.15650006

>>15638721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMfZZdWOE_0&t=0s
The person next in the relay.
>5.2k viewers
>58k subs
Looks like it was just the relay afterall.

>> No.15650010

P-pakor?!! The cull?!

>> No.15650039

>>15649937
they could... move to reality
they worked with RK Sounds (same parent company) before

>> No.15650045

>>15649937
Retard, look at what happened to Ninja when he left twitch

>> No.15650056

>>15649993
Wait, what? What the hell is wrong with anykara?

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>>15649788
>>15649908
30k on a lottery for a tourney (with Okayu together)!!! we did it holobros!!!

>> No.15650098

>>15650010
Saturday jp land no school. Her fans are mostly kids like gura.

>> No.15650103

>>15649937
yeah that sure worked out well for nebula and like the billion other platforms who tried.
Video distributon on the scale of youtube is really fucking expensive, there is a reason despite youtube fucking up left and right nobody has come up with a viable competitor yet

>> No.15650141

So the cull is real. Fkin Susan

>> No.15650151

>>15650056
don't send death threats to talents.

>> No.15650178

>>15649668
How do we save Kson, numberbros?

>> No.15650185

>>15650065
Anon your king is now struggle to get 20k....

>> No.15650197

>>15650065
Look what Pakora+Okayu need to mimic a fraction of Touya's power.

>> No.15650206

>>15649817
>is an actual outed retard
>shits on "Jaypees" 12 hours per day calling everyone not putting ENs on a pedestal a last samurai
>keeps calling Gura queen
>is a Hoshifag
What

>> No.15650216

>>15650098
Copium

>> No.15650220

>>15649668
>All of Niji combined
>still only just half of Orca
Did Cover just replace Coco? They also got a Pink Lamy, actual seiso Ame and a non SC debuffed Gura. Fucking how?

>> No.15650222

>>15648964
we're too busy enjoying the SOVL, though i actually think she's passable now and left Noel/Fauna Tier along with Choco this year IF she tried to sing properly

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