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General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR
Nijifags REALLY don't like 39 huh. Guess it's a meme now.
This thread will die
>>15583755add it to the list kek
>>15583630>sankyuulmao my fucking sides
How fucking stupid are you number fucks getting? You can't even keep it together in one thread >>15583621Let along two
>>15584558this was actually the original numbers thread, but the number "39" triggers them for some reason and made a duplicate.
>>15584558We'll just reuse it afterwardsReal previous thread ->>15583621>>15583621>>15583621
>>15583755I quite like Miku actually
>>15588009> mi-ku> san-kyunippon number phonemes are pretty fun
>>15583755what is 39?
>>15588487Today's Niji new year relay was expected to break a lot of records, and get the monthly gold.It slipped and missed beating Pekora's outfit reveal by 39 viewers, so that's become a counter-meme due to all the shitposting done leading up to the event.
>>15590999Checked
Streams with over 2 million viewsNoel 3 Gura 2Coco 2Chloe 1Okayu 1Streams with over 1.5 million viewsGura 9Noel 6Coco 3Okayu 2Mori 2Ame 1Pekora 1Rushia 1Marine 1Lamy 1Laplus 1Koyori 1Chloe 1Miko 1Shion 1
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>187,119: Rindou>166,651: Rindou>99,172: hololive>26,208: Pekora>20,716: Pekora>19,720: Toya>19,393: Nijisanji>17,144: Kuzuha>14,819: Fubuki>12,185: Aqua>12,012: Iroha>11,380: Amelia>10,715: FuwaAlso final tally of the year
>>15590999The rabbit is just too strong
>39like pottery lolCaptcha: 4VNRG
OP should have been something more subtle, like an image of Miku
>>15591195After 8 hours of nonstop shit posting i think this fits better
>>15591195Anon, you think most people here are even aware of Japanese puns? I don't think they even watched 39's Giving Day...
Is this actually a numberfag thread? Why is nobody shitting on Kiara right now?
>>15593457Go back to discord, egg. We're having big boy year end discussions right now.
Your streamers are weakhttps://www.twitch.tv/ibai
>>15583755ah
How is THIS somehow the better of the two threads?
Previous thread since we're opting to re-use this one instead of using the faggot OP's /pol/ image numbers>>15591008>>15591008>>15591008
Ina is already back to 18.8K, she can probably make it to 20K
Does anyone have the monthly superchat ranking for HoloEN and NijiEN?
>forced to use this threadugh
Ina's stream not showing up on Playboard?
>>15610171not real-time, takes a few minutes
>>15610112Easily.
>>15609473This is actually quite reassuring.While having the same number as last year isn't great, I was expecting sub-2 mil.
fast recovery for Ina, guessing these are notif squad
20K getI wonder how much she will lose when Gura & Ame start
ina seems to going to break the 20k easieris burger prime almost also.But i think there is something different in the way youtube validates a stream viewer when they jump from one to another.
Ina looks fat. How much does she weight?
20k get, still not waiting room numbers but she's getting there faster than Kronii/Mumei.
See? this is why Gura gets number in this timeslot. The most friendly globally, except eu lol
>>15610267Possibly, but it's also getting later into the day and drifting into prime-time burger hours too, so there's probably more people able to fill in to counteract whatever wonkiness is at play.
Surely cull deniers can't possibly explain this waiting room to stream disparity without cope right?
Sana has now beaten the top of both Nijisanji KR and Nijisanji ID.
>>15610433Waiting rooms being culled has been a thing since before 2020.
>>15610374EU don't even watch vtubers anyway.
>>15610374Gura gets more numbers than other girls who stream on this slot. That's why she owns this time slot.
>>15610437Now show Nijisanji EN
>>15610433Waiting room cull has been a thing since last year.It's nothing new and it's more of a sign of tab-out cull than any new cull.>waiting room counts you, but if you're watching multi POVs, it doesn't count you during the streamThat's how you get holos who peak in waiting room for Among Us streams.
>>15610437Hanabros...
Ha. Looking at NijiEN numbers.....Vox is getting a decent amount, looks like SEA/Jp waking up alongside whatever NA audience he has finally pushed him above 4.5k.Meanwhile....Finana...Reimu...
>>15610502Pretty sure Gura will get more number than any EN girl on any timeslot
Bird is coming
21k and then straight past the waiting room number in the next two ticks. About 19 minutes.
Waiting room get, much faster than Kronii/Mumei.
>>15610535Amogus is weird because some people watch multi POVs the whole time, some watch one, some just watch the impostor.
>>15610570Mysta* and ya he inclined after 2 hours, which is pretty rare.I'm in the camp that thinks Mysta will always beat Vox in CCV, but Vox will win in subs and SC.
>>15610570>Voxlol, but yeah it's a group vc. i dont know if it was the same earlier
>>15610682Translate it weebs
This gonna be the first time all of EN gonna chart in the same day after Irys and council right?
>>15610682Subs gained for the year of 2021? That's what the numbers look like to me.
>>15610682what's this? sub increase?
>>15610731subs gained during the year
>>15610733Did Sana break 10k?
>>15610731How many subscribers they got in 2021, anon
>>15610787Yes 11k
>>15610731you lack the numberfag soul you infidel
>>15610618Not true, Ina beats Gura multiple times during their multi POV collab at Ina's time slot.
>>15610731Christmas yab got 6th place with 720K subs
>>15610682Suisei being 15th, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
stable attractring customers octopus destination finally bringing in numbers
Today's superchats, last chart of the year edition and we're going out with a bangWith the huge asterisk of it getting divided between all the performing livers instead of going to her, Rindou Mikoto of all people is the 6th vtuber to make over 100k USD in one day after Fuwa, Tomoe, Coco, Ibrahim and ChloeI counted them all and there's 53 other chuubas who made over $2k today lmfao should I post them all y/n?
>>15610682>ame ahead of pekorawhat
>>15610901Has happened a few times, when Gura was streaming erratically and doing a lot of crap like DMC that turned people off. Wouldn't happen nowdays, even in Ina's slot, Gura has really buffed herself back up to top form.
>>15610700Oh? I'll check the vod later, for curiosity's sake. I wouldn't know, I've been listening to EN karaoke in the background.
Ame delayed by an hour so Ina's numbers will still drop due to Gura but not as much
>>15611021EN subgrowth was still going strong for the first half of 2021 anon. Simple as.
>>15611003kek, just go to 4 or 5k.
>>15610522Those three are on page 4, Elira, Nijisanji EN's #1, is still on page 5.
>>15611003Monthly SC and Yearly SC should be here already right? Or is the gook site that slow?
I think Gura might end up not having the biggest karaoke numbers since her time slot is dogshit, the relay is broken, and there's an outfir overlapping her
>>15611003only top 25
>>15611003I want to know non-HoloNiji who made over $2k
>>15611273Slow. Anon said few hours delay on both of those in the prev thread.
>>15610682Can Fubuki keep it up and beat numberrabbit to 2M?
>>15610901You recall any examples where Ina's POV beat Gura in a collab? I don't remember that happening.
So this apparently happened
this is going to be a shitshow
>>15611146Amesame probably helped a lot. Shame that HoloEN torpedoed all their stable collab groups.
Imagine if Ina had some hardcore gachis that would SC every stream regardless if she reads their SC or not. Too bad she cut them off early.
>>15611394African bros...
>Gura delayed 15 minutes for InaShark you are my greatest ally
>>15611407Nah Gura has no chance.
>>15611003I wonder if they actually divide the earnings equally
>>15611407That's a win for chloe
>>15611407Only thing that will hurt is Chloe's numberGura will still get her 30k+, but some of that 30k might have watched the costume reveal instead.
>>15611509this is illegal funnel prevention
Some fun facts. Excluding the outfit reveal, this is Ina's highest stream since the 11th of June when she played Clubhouse 51 with Pikamee. More than stuff like Holoween, the EN+ID Marika tournament, Umisea, HoloEN Amongus etc
>>15611407A simple karaoke will never defeat an outfit reveal, not even Gura's
>>15611407Fluctuation with viewers shifting tabs. Outfit reveal would peak until head part, dips down after in favor of karaoke.
>>15611407for schizos and falseflaggers maybe, I just want to know how much Chloe's gachis will throw for her outfit reveal
>>15611391nta, Gartic Phone and that MK collab on JP time
>>15611407I only know that this will be a shitshow for this place
More voice packs and badges for NijiENhttps://nijisanji-store.com/collections/new-year-2022
>>15611617Well, that's not surprising if you consider the following:Ina's hard-capped in the timeslot she's picked.
>>15611711actual merch when? this is ridiculous at this point
>>1561161720k+ is hard to achieve for EN vtubers. How many times did VShojo hit 20k last year? Plus, Ina ain't the type to do buff streams.
>>15611617Ina is consistent, but her ceiling/gimmick ability isn't on the same level as Ame, who is the definition of inconsistent lolI feel like Mori is actually lowkey as strong as they are now.Her timezone just sucks for burgers so her CCV sucks, but her VOD views are pretty strong.
New year vod is already 2.5m, around 10k less like so less eop i guess.
>>15611711hey that's cultural appropriation, you can't wear kimonos if you're not a jap.
Bae is gonna take a huge hit isn't she? Gura going over her is brutal.
>>15611653If, for some GODAWFUL reason, we don't see the spikes we usually do for outfits, I'm gonna call CULLING horseshit. That has been reliable all this time, I refuse to believe that it'd change now. >>15611711Well finally, good on them. The fact that they had gone so long without a consistent source of merch income wasn't great.
>>15611711Kek males and gfe girls excluding reimu
>>15611626Except the past gura with 112k lol. Sadly she debuff herself
rrat...
>>15611781Why get actual merch when you can pump out cheap, high profit stuff.Ame will get her birthday merch in a few days.
>>15611850All Nijisanji EN are Asians, close enough. Even Pomu is Asian(White).
>>15611876>Gura starting 15 minutes before her>Ame starting 30 minutes after she beginsYeah, she's fucked.
>>15611822>I feel like Mori is actually lowkey as strong as they are nowhuh?
>>15611680Dead Space 3 as well.
>>15611711Where is HoloEN's New Year's merch or was there already a lot of HoloEN merch last month?
RELAY TO GURA'S STREAM LET'S GOOOOOOO
>>15611947I would hate being the rrat right now, that sucks ass
>>15612032Omocat and they had some junk merch with the new outfits.
>>15610437Bora hasn't been deleted from existence yet?
>>15611986Mori's CCV used to be lower than Ina and Ame's, but her VOD views are better than both even for shorter streams as long as it's not shit like Earthboundhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMwGHR0BTZuLsmjY_NT5Pwg/videos
>>15612095Fauna is disqualified, she pulled the fake ending bullshit
>>15612095fauna...
>>15611680>MK collabThe ENxID one? Gura got slightly higher numbers.You're right about the Gartic Phone though.
>>15612171Of all things, that's the thing she learned from Ame...
>>15612153Mori has inclined a ton since she's gotten serious about being a good streamer. Do we owe it all to that guy that SC'd her to show as much enthusiasm with her genmates as with Gigguk?
>>15612153I dont get what is the problem with earthbound, is it that much of a zoomer filter or hard to get compared to pokemon?
>>15612000right how could I forgot the number #1 shitpost material back then
>>15612100Bae needs to find unity within her own gen.
I have no context to determine if this is typical or not.
>>15611910That time was her first ever unarchived Karaoke. Even Gura couldn't replicate such numbers with future unarchived karaokes...probably because the tourist from back then already know by now where to go if they missed it.
why are they double-teaming the rrat?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlafJgBMrYkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXQK45AcMoU
>>15611394Crazy how they're both at 82k total superchats.
>>15610682Marine I kneelMind you she did that with her two breaks.
>>15612280It's just kind of an Undertale ripoff.
>>15612263>Do we owe it all to that guy that SC'd her to show as much enthusiasm with her genmates as with Gigguk?No, unironically because of pic related that she's now going all in
>>15612280You don't understand how much of a filter the game is.Even on RELEASE the game was a goddamn filter, as much fun and enjoyment I got outta the game. There's a reason that shit did NOT sell beyond bad marketing, and that's that it's just filter on filter with the game.
>>15612144Her channel has been left up with 2 videos.
>>15611711So fucking cheap, my sides.
>>15612379>Undertale ripoff>Came out decades before undertale
>>15612395based herman miller shills in gura's chat
>>15612379>Earthbound release date: 1995kek
>>15612144nijisanji did for the most part but the channel is still there and still tracked.
>>15612316Nothing suspicious
>>15612395Didn't she also get some kind of medical procedure to help with back/shoulder pain?
>>15612432would you rather want a $40 asmr?
>>15612328Second anon. We go over this EVERY time someone gets this wrong!It was the SECOND unarchived Karaoke. The ride on time on debut, the first one, they both set up the table, and then that 2nd one had a waiting room up for like a day. That shit went VIRAL.
>>15612328That was her second one and frankly a big part of it is that the waiting room was up for 24 hours.
Oh no, Ina is ending and Gura (non-relay) is starting at the same time, so much for being able to understand the baton pass.
Nice, Ina linked Bae
>>15612432It's even cheaper if you torrent it.Literally MP3s my dude.They're making money from something that anyone can get for free.
>>15612418I'm old enough to remember the scratch and sniff ad page in Nintendo Power...legendarily bad marketing for sure. Still it's a fun game and very unique.
>>15612486She was considering getting that treatment, hence why the second it was announced, the breast reduction rrat became a thing but i think she didnt got it and instead replaced it with some spa visits for the massage
>Gura's waiting room shoots up to 15k
>14k waiting in Gura's roomChrist she's mogged several relay karaokes already
>Ina: everyone! Bae is next! *links stream*>Gura gains 5k on waitroom
>>15611310Kiara said Gura came last minute, Ame was supposed to be the last one and Gura wasn't supposed to participate.And after seeing that Gura had also her own NYE schedule, I think Omega pushed Gura to participate in this so she can build the momentum for the announcement.Actually, I feel some participations were corporate mandate, not because they like Kiara but because they saw this as an opportunity to hype the announcement.On their official reddit there is nowhere to see a pinned thread for the EN relay while the Homos countdown still pinned
>>15612569Only 9k in Bae's waiting room...
Takofags, you went to the wrong stream LOL
>>15612455>>15612478That's been a joke for ages purely to trigger people.
AAAAAAAAAAAAA EN COMMITTING SELF SABOTAGE
Wait what the fuck who thought off putting 15 Min delays in a fucking relay. Have the seen a real karaoke relay?
>>15612704she's going to get the short end of the stick in this relay isnt it?
>>15612626Yea. There's a reason it's got a very devout cult-following. It's a shame, a shame.
Octopus Tip numbers.
>Subaru getting this low numbers on OhaSubayeah shits fucked.
Being rrat is suffering, can't even get a good funnel.
I hate Gura.
>>15612772>who thought off putting 15 min delays in a fucking relay
... leader of council will get lowest number?
>>15612655Just sana and Kiara, all the other waiting room were above that
>>15612773Her and IRyS.
I don't usually browse /#/, but I'd like to hear what you guys think about this.>>15612401
>>15612379>Undertale ripoffThe absolute state
Subaru is streaming her weekly zatsu and it's one of the best litmus tests for if there's something fishy going on.2 weeks ago (18k): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JwDuKIJVFCc1 week ago (17k): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/-KCfXXJpWCcRight now: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/MDbfNeKsXeg
>>15612813this is why she prefers hanging out with ID on discord
>>15612773That'll probably be more on IRyS since Gura's collab starts just before her.
people were just killing time until Gura started streaming
>>15612772Kiara fucking knows how technologically undeveloped is EN and accounted for delays.
>>15612634The doxxbeats would riot if she got a breast reduction.
>>15612835Well she said that she told the others they can go over if they want but don't overlap
>>15612861Partly. But she also had a worse timeslot. Anything before 7pm EST/4pm PST is a debuff for NA, because people generally don't tune in to watch until later in the day.
>>15612861Maybe true, maybe not, but ascribing qualitative reasons to a quantitative number is stupid when the ENTIRE difference can be easily explained by the time of each relay stream and nothing more.
>>15612804If you track it against the previous Ohasubas it's not too far off base.https://holo.poi.cat/stream/-KCfXXJpWCchttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/JwDuKIJVFCc
>>15612861Kronii went a lot earlier in the day, not as many Americans around to watch her, simple as that. If she went in that slot Ina had she probably would have been pushing 25-30k.
>>15612841No, Kiara will be lowest
Will Bae's relay be archived?
>>15613034Kiara already beat Sana, she can't be lowest
>>15612896There's a lot of other shit going on.
>>15613074Yes, IRyS is unarchived though.
>>15613074Yes, that is what her schedule says
>>15612804Yeah subaru morning talk stream usually is in 17k+.
>>15612896Fuck susan, i am waiting for patra's asmr data which should be not affected by any overlap, debuffs or buffs.
Bae's waiting room 5 minutes before starting: 14K
>>15612861I don't care about how mad some faggot is while not understanding a poorly done relay or that Kronii often gets higher numbers than Ina.
>>15612974Yeah, that's why her live 2D got it insteadhttps://youtu.be/x8Nv5zISxGA
>>15612861We all thought the same, but then she did the spicy noodles. Different times though, Mumei and Kronii entered a dead slot
>>15612861Delusional when Kronii got 18k with her Christmas karaoke last week with overlap and she's gotten 24k+ on multiple karaokes before that.Her timeslot is just worse than Ina's today and the relay gets stronger the later it gets. (unless you're Bae and overlapping with Gura)As for Kronii destroying Ina in every metric possible, this is not true.Only metric Kronii destroys Ina in is SC. They're basically on par with CCV and Kronii is a bit better at VODs.
>>15613104Sana got 12.6k I thought?
>>15613262a teamate made the comparison with the outfit models and is ame's head that got smaller which makes her chest look big
Gura bringing in her fucking mom to destroy Bae, wtf.
>>15613383She didn't ?
>>15613125Overlap doesn't affect Subaru since it's the same number every week overlapping with Gura.13k 24 mins is close to what she normally gets anyways so it doesn't seem to have be culled.
>>15612772Its optional, so only the incompetent bitches are taking it.
>>15610919She has almost doubled her subs this year, she reached 700k on 16th of January.
>>15612634She did spinal adjustment too (chiropraxy), something very questionable
>>15613396well nabi is korean they love small face
>>15611162Yeah okay that sounds like the best idea, here it is>>15611273It is slow yeah, it'll be a few more hours before those are up. I can give you spoilers now though, December is Chloewinslol and 2021 is Rushiawinslol>>15611337Okay fine just for you anon, no numbers but they are in order, indie unless stated otherwise>Shirane Yuki (Re:AcT)>Mizuki (Taiwanese)>Tamako (Aogiri High School)>Siro (.LIVE)>Mikan-sensei>QuonTama (GuildQC)>Inui Shinichiro (VEEMusic)>Ponpoko>18go>Momonya Miyui>Hachi (Live Union)>Hoshino Supika (Masquerade)>Tomari Mari>Utai Makea>Fuji Aoi>Rumi (Taiwanese)>Asano Sisters>Gatchman
>>15613425Holy fuck Gura.
Oh wait, Gura's really fucking mother? WTF, lol. I was thinking Nacho, hahahahah.
GURA GODDAMNIT YOU JUST CASUALLY REVEAL YOUR MOM ON STREAM WITH NO FANFARE.ARGH THE NUMBERS!
>>15613425That's ruthless
>pekomama 128k>guramama 20kbros??
Bae is at fucking 5K9
16.7k for waiting room of Bae
>>15613823wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>15613777shes doing it through face time as well not discord so you can barely hear her.gura is the queen of debuff
oh christ
>>15613777lmao this could have been a 200k stream
>>15613913nearly as flat as shion's chest
I wonder if Bae will lose to her waiting room because people came from Ina>Funneled from Ina into Bae>Hear Bae yell and scream for the first 20s>Close stream and go to Gura
>>15613913At least she'll beat Sana.
>>15613904why is she like this
This year's Holo NYE stream took less than a day to reach the VOD views of last year's, despite supposedly having only 72% of the average CCV.
>>15613898>Casually revealing your bother like it's nbdvs>Revealing your mother you're a vtuber and introducing her to your fanbase in the same, separate stream as a big dealwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>The first actually good singer in the EN relay is going to get the lowest viewershipBae......
>>15613823>pekomamaPeko>guramamaOh nyo
>>15614302Dont worry, Iofi will comfort her on discord after the relay is over
Is there a compiled list of max ccv's for the NYE relay somewhere? My goto page is putting wonky numbers out apparently because the slots don't start/end on the hour
>>15614220Mitigating factors>NJU means there were tourists hopping between the streams adding to increased churn, thus increased vod views as people switched streams on their phones, which DOES add to vod views>Less captivating guests means more churn this year than last>Longer VOD this year than lastThat being said, I still smell the scent of bullshit even with potential mitigating factors.
>>15614302Do people not think Mumei's pretty good? Obviously not a pro but a step above most amateur vtubers that sing.
The VOD views don't seem affected but the CCV seems fucked up.
>>15614302Very sure she's going to beat Sana and Kiara at the very least
Bae getting bullied from right and left, i actually feel bad for her.....
>>15590999Holy shit, the rabbit Pakora beat all nijisanji still even on new years!!! Happy new year!
>>15614444Nah, Mumei is good but she fucks around too much. I actually couldn't catch her part of the relay but she usually fucks around with Autotune and uses weird voices when she does karaoke.
>>15614444For council, I'd rate the singing skill isMumei = Bae (Depends on songs, some songs Bae is a better singer, others, Mumei is better) > Kronii > Fauna > Sana
>>15614368holostats is pretty reliable for any hololive streamhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/H9Ku0sj9WKEhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/0LBNIh12o4ghttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/ItIBVOyvZGkhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/NP59D8xufgUhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/d1C-at0rh-Ihttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/WN-Bw81o-xohttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/IdnKqHIgrkY
>>15614479Revenge for promoting the Holostars..
>>15614220I found myself clicking out of screen often and that probably racks up view counts, possibly more than last year because of frequent loading screens.
I'm so mad at Gura. This could have easily been a 50k+ stream and we're sitting on fucking >20k. It's not fucking EN curse bs, if i can teach 60+ years old farts how to use TeamViewer you can teach your own damn mom how to use Discord.
>>15614622she thought she could get away with it like her elder sister
Subaru is also a little lower than usual for her afternoon talk.not a lot and could be atributed to all of EN streaming
>>15610620No way even Lui is gonna mog council?
>>15610620GO LUI GO!
>>15614646she's DCing from face time as well now since they couldn't get the game to work.i hope they re-do eventually
>>15614444Mumei's voice is unique so people like her singing more than Bae, eventho Bae is a better singer.Similar to how Gura's singing is technically worse than Irys, but people like her voice more so her karaokes are way more popular.
>>15614479Bae is made for bullying though.
>>15614604Thanks, I was looking for a site that puts it in one neat page but this will do
>>15614696Her growth has slowed a lot, I don't think she'll ever catch Kronii or even Mumei.
>>15614770after what Gura has said about numbers in the past 2 or so streams its even more obvious she will always debuff herself regardless of how confident she gets
>>15614444Sadly Mumei is sick so she couldn’t do it seriously, but yeah her and Bae are the best council can offer in terms of singing.
>>15614842https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-streamnot lined up but it's one page
>>15614604There's also https://vrabi.ml/, which will allow you to filter down to JUST HoloEN. You'll catch the non karaoke streams too, but you'll be able to see all peaks on the same page once everyone's done their Karaokes.
>>15614811robert...
>>15614791love the girl but IRyS's first karaoke, she sounded so plain I lost interest.
>>15614770Yes, honestly a good call to cancel it. Here's hoping she learns from her mistake.
>>15615025IRyS Japanese stuff is w/e but her unarchived EN karaokes are great.
why are they not affected holobros
>>15615145she'll get it to work but not advertise it as a momma collab knowing gura
>>15615025She...She wanted to be 'serious and mature' for her character, but she quickly reverted to her PON dorky self, thank gods. If only she had gone with that from the start, what with the triple-descent on debut, she likely would've kept a lot more eyes on her. Alas, the model also filtered a lot of people. She's much more interesting to watch now and she definitely seems more relaxed with her Karaokes too.
>>15615193small number
>>15614770>>15614914If Gooruh had a button to halve her ccv or sub count she'd press it once no doubt and maybe even twice. Even if we get another appearance she's definitely not gonna make it a spectacle.
>>15615025Same anon, but I think Irys's unarchived karaokes have been more interesting than Gura's recently.Far better song choice and unafraid to go for meme songs like Lonely Island.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdbkePUni2A
>>15615193They clearly are. You can see the waiting room cull. They just have longer streams.
>>15615263Gura self nerfs so she doesn't make everyone feel bad. It's pretty obvious by now
>>15615193ewww midget
>>15615263as a fan i love her but as a numberfag she constantly annoys me
>>15615334Gura doesn't care anyone else anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt53Ba7QSW0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziEq_lqDNKAApart from farming SCs, why is this collab split POV? It's just 2 live2ds and they're talking to the same group of people on discord.
>>15612896considering it's new year, this pretty much disproves the cull in my eyes. reduction in ccv is negligible
>>15615317yeah but hows the number? beaten gura number? no? yes?
bros...
>>15615193They didn't have a substantial number of people waiting for them to start and build their audience as people figured out they were live, rather than a bunch of people waiting.
>>15615425No true unity for those kind of streamers
>>156154257 person zatsudan with 3 PoVsthey really want that money
>>15615425>Apart from farming SCsthat is their main source of income
>>15615449Chill out chumbud, just extending the conversation.
Recent Ohasubas21,095 -> 18,512 - > 17,383 - > 15,441**ongoing
>>15615391is simple, gura is a numberfag but only on the things SHE wants to numberfag, remember that she is still sitting on the MV of reflect and you bet your ass she will try to maximize the numbers of it's release as much as she can
>>15615248She ever say what the triple descent thing was? I felt like that was supposed to be a meme or something like "a" but it didn't really come across or make any sense.
>>15615454what?>he finally beat the waiting room peakor>tryna beat Calli?
>Mama stream is going to be for another time since the internet was shit We can still enjoy these numbers bros
>>15615425money, specifically this way they don't have to fuss around with splitting the cash afterwards
>>15615454What a recline...
>>15615263>>15615334It's retarded tho, if she feels bad about her numbers compared to the rest of EN, then she should go FULL numbers and make us of it to promote the others.
Ok, Bae beat Kiara and Sana despite the brutal overlap. I'm content with that.
>>15615583finished the game, that's his peak
>>15615425The only reason is the SCs.
>Mumei joining Gura's collabLooks like it will just be Irystocrats for IRyS' relay huh?
>>15615567shuba is overlaping a lot of EN so it makes sense.not that much difference over her last one.
>>15611825Definitely less EOPs judging by the chat. Hololyzer had it only at 7% English messages.
>>15615660No unity between council and hope, shameful
>>15615571yeah, I know. she mentioned, I think it was in the Minecraft stream, that she essentially only does stuff she enjoys
>>15615177>>15615248It is nice that she got better. I haven't really caught her recent karaokes but I'll try to change that.>>15615317As a chumbud, I think the "recent" karaokes have been pretty meh song wise. At least discounting maybe the last two, they've been good chatting but not the best singing wise. The best song choice in EN is definitely Fauna, but she isn't the best singer.Anyway numbers, Gura's calorie count is definitely increasing.
>>15615425>farming SCsThey have a whole $310 between them so far, why the fuck are they like this?
>>15615454Jesus ludwig is becoming irrelevant by the day
>>15615584Yea. HoloEN and HoloJP are at the point where honestly, a few hundred bucks one way or another doesn't fucking matter, and even the paltry salary they get is enough to help cover things until they get their own income sources via memberships etc.NijiEN though? They need to fight tooth-and-nail for EVERY dollar, considering it's SC as the primary money maker since their adrev+membership income isn't nearly as beefy as HoloEN/JP.
>>15615582hopefully, they get discord sorted for it
>>15615730They're not Pomu.
>>15615763Youtube should be shocked over this, but they won't be. It's like their gaming division and their engineering division and marketing division are all on completely different islands from one another.
>>15615567I'd want to see next week's. Holiday, special event overlap, and need more than 1 data point to establish a pattern. Though yes, Ohasuba always has pretty significant EN overlap.
>>15615454hope your millions of dollars of investment on him were worth it susan
>>15615576She just fucked it up twice.
>>15615763Twitch streamer deprived of react content and serial interaction with other same-y twitch streamers. It's like taking a fish and tossing it on the dock.
Gura just namedropped Bae's karaoke.If she's going to reach her waiting room, this is the chance.
Hololive EN is kinda dead huh? not even 90k like JP New Year
>>15615882That's usually how it works in large companies.Every department is in its own silo separated from each other and only interact when needed.
>>15615576No, I'm pretty sure it was just good ol' scuffed nerves, she tried to laugh it off from what I can remember, so it wasn't supposed to be some sort of meme. >>15615728Do catch her unarchived stuff if you can, she REALLY shines when she goes all in on the english songs.
>>15614646Remember when Pekora did proper set-up and then glorious reveal of Pekomama to 130k ccv?
>>15615423If a single stream proves anything one way or the other for you then you're retarded, look at all the data and there's quite clearly a drop
>>15615891$30M YT contract btw.
seanigs awake now, it seems
>>15615882pretty sure they hire people unfamiliar to the internet culture so they don't have a bias on their opinions to have "neutrality"
>>15616059>$30M YT contractgood for him i guess, but god...
>>15616032I remember, back when people still watched Pekora.
>>15616072where's my morning kiss?
>>15616137Twitch should give Gura 30 million to move there.
>>15616059What was even the point of this if they had literally no strategy to grow Youtube Gaming after the fact? Did they think that handing the guy a massive bag would just magically trigger some grand exodus of streamers from Twitch without them doing anything to improve the platform or set those people up for success?
>>15616032That was just after last year's cull as well, imagine what the number would've been if she did it a week earlier
>>15615763>Pay millions of dollars to lure over a big name streamer from Twitch>Cull his numbers so it looks like switching over to your platform killed his viewershipWhat exactly was Youtube intending here?
Can IRyS, Mori and Ame bring some juice back to this relay before Gura rounds it out?
>100 percent like ratioSo whats her actual number at?
>>15616059I wonder how much Cover can negotiate out of twitch (or YT) if they harbored moving their platforms there.
>>15616204after you take your meds
Subaru on her avg now
>>15616244How new are you to how Google operates, anon?
>>1561624430M marketing budget and a staff that would rather be playing golf.
>>15616137I love this gif
Dec SC ranking?
>>15616305you really just wanted to post this
>>15616244They are learning from the best>Mixer
>>15616227Jesus you do know twitch has stream quota right? yt has this aswell but they are much more lax. They need to stream with an absurd amount of hours and gura for all we know won't stream that long.
>>15616227The entire reason why ludwig moved to youtube in hte first place is that twitch doesn't do shit to keep anyone on their platform.
>>15616388SC anon is working on it, give it time. But he already said this much: Chloewinslol
>>15616283Mori will draw some interest.
>>15616244Google is used to throwing money around. There's a literal graveyard of half executed ideas that they allow to live/blow money for a few years and then just trash because it didn't survive (with little support). Some middle manager that had clout thought Gaming was a good idea to try and get market share and it got signed off on for a promotion for said person. After that no one supported it. Many such cases in google
>>15616244Just like Mixer with Ninja and Shroud.
>>15616302but the number bros told me that the western streamers like the streams and that is why JP's have a different ratio...
>18k ccv>19k likesSugoi
>>15616406of fucking course
>>15616502we're now at 105 percent like ratio, susan must stop anime girls from mogging the twitch babbies.
>>15616502nah its just EN
>>15616421How many hours per week? They could also, you know, relax the requirement for her.
>>15616484Exactly.The best thing YT could do is revert their shitty changes to pre-december and then fucking leave it be. Their constant 'tweaks' have just made YT a WORSE place for livestreaming.
>Likes > peak CCV any% Speedrun42 mins lol
>>15616609iirc the quota is 72 hours
>>15616032Yes, but all debuff-things considered, just thinking of the numbers we could be getting pains me.
Shit, fauna beat bae. Guraaaaaa!
Yeah Kronii fuck you
>>15616634Counterpoint : She had the stream frame up since earlier in the day. A lot of those likes are probably from people earlier in the day. I would know, I was one of them even if I'm watching the stream now.
>>15616597oh sorry missed whose channel it was
>>15616388It'll be up in around 3 hours, for now Chloe is obviously top, Iroha also made it to 200k, a record shattering 10 different channels made it to over 100k
>>15616667wtf that's insane
>>15616502wait, i thought EOPs spam likes? why is his so low?
>>15616634the face says it all
>>15616502Ludwig's going to be weird because his audience comes from twitch and the average twitch session time is 105 minutes, so way fewer people in and out than on YT.
>>15616667What, that doesn't sound right at all, even as insane as Twitch may be that's not sustainable in the least. If you had told me 50-60, that would be believable, but really? fucking 72 hours a week?!
>>15616634No one likes Gura anymore. simple as
Bae barely suffered from Amelia starting, and seems like she's going to sing till the next person, so it may funnel properly without leaking to Gura/Ame
>>15616452Only thing I'm working on is celebrating the New Year with another beer but some shitty laptops in Seoul are busy crunching away
https://youtu.be/Dhz6vdT_Yvg?t=10996Koyori should be the official mascot of number「今何千人が見てるよーって言ってほしくない。知りたくない情報が入ってくるから」「萎えるんだよねー」「10000人超えてたら嬉しいんだけどねw」
time square is reclining...
>>15616806she will never get a 2.0
what are these shit streams from nijien
>>15616244Anon, the decision was made by the suits, they literally never watched a gaming stream in their lives and have zero idea about the culture or even what the appeal is. It's just the typical suit MO: buy the competition. If competing studio puts out successful movies, what suits do, is they poach key talent. The same logic applies here.
>>15617028dont you love horror games on new year?
>>15616983masaka...
>>15616952Kek, fair. Not like the numbers are gonna run away, there's no rush when the monthly and yearly top are already known.
>>15617106not really
>>15616871That's the quota if they are paying you to stay on Twitch. And yes it is a ridiculous expectation and why you rarely hear people signing to Twitch.If you are just a normal partner there's no quota.
>>15616929Sorry Ame... trying to listen to 3 streams gave me a headacheI don't know why she's doing her own thing instead of just joining Gura's VC honestly, but it's Ame.
>>15617178Ame wants to be with her own fans. Can we blame her for that in a sense?
>>15616983Expect it to peak on the countdown though.
>>15616983Give it fucking TIME anon, it's still 3 hours out, and this year people are sick and tired of being at home (and honestly given everything people have read about the new strain, are probably more willing to risk it if they've already got shots since the severity appears to be at the level of a cold if you've gotten 2 shots)
>>15617091But you don't successfully "poach" talent by dropping a bag and then doing literally nothing else afterwards. If anything, you've just turned Ludwig into a warning for any prominent Twitch streamer who even thinks of doing the same thing without a $30,000,000 bonus.
>Senbonzakura BaelzI'm muting Gura.
>>15616824what about Dr. Disrespect? he's been streaming for quite some time now>peak 27k>14k likes
>>15616729And what was the number of likes before she started streaming?
>>15617266Nah. Considering that many of the HoloEN gals intended to just do streams to their fans or not at all, then Kiara threw this relay together in under a week, well...
Fuwa is getting close to beating Jump King and the needle is barely moving, I know it's been played to death but under 10k for him near the end of a huge endurance is very strange
>>15617357>peak 27kthat's massively lower than last weeks
>>15617266>Kronii joins Fauna and Gura on VC too>Can we blame her for that in a sense?Nothing to blame per say, that's a normal streamer thing to do. She'll just have bad numbers.
>>15617444why is everyone playing jump king?
>>15617357Simply this: HoloEN fans are more rabid and far more willing to drop likes than your usual stream viewers. >>15617397Alas, I didn't fucking CATCH it because it slipped my mind. REGRET!
>>15617357If you know any streamers who are homegrown on YouTube I'd love to see their stats. People who moved like Dr. Disrespect, Ludwig, Valkrae, TimTheTatman are all going to have atypical audiences.
>>15617492>holo plays MC, everyone else doesAs usual, holo sets the FOTM, not chase one
>>15617444He already inclined in the past few hours.At the low point in the middle of the night, he was at 7.4k. He'll probably peak at around 11k like when he started when he finishes, kinda like how Iroha, Botan, and Koyori didn't see a massive peak when they beat the game.
>>15617464I think he jumos between 2 slots on gets him 20k the other 30k
>>15617475As expected of Kronii to go jump on any VC opportunity
>>15617492why else?
>>15616667That's not true, there's plenty of contracted twitch streamers that don't do 72 a week.
>1.1k live viewers>literally less live viewers than nijisanji en
>>15617710deserved
>>15617710kek
>>15617710At this point, all the shit flinging at Sana here is simply mean. Everyone knows she is gonna do poorly by now
>>15617710she already had her 11k today so she is gonna chart higheer than all homos
>>15617492It's cyclical, people leave it alone for awhile then someone popularizes it and you see a wave of players.
Holy crap shuba, today's SCs are going to be insane too aren't they
>>15617710if you fail to beat the tutorial boss today, your 2022 will be cursed
>>15617547everyoone on the gaming live category is worse by orders of magnitudehttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiCvVJzBupKnbMdoSd29iqn5MLcRI7LRW
>>15617492Even xQc was playing Jump king a month ago.I don't think it has anything to do with Holos, it just comes and goes as a challenge/endurance game.
>>15617954NijiEN...
>>15617710Weird, I was expecting an animal crossing fishing endurance stream from the least popular member of HoloEN overlapping a karaoke relay and new year streams from Gura and Ame to do at least 50k
>>15617328Usually, when you poach talent, you let them do their thing. You know, the stuff that made them successful in the first place. It's Ludwig's fault for not having a plan ready on how to incline his content on the new platform. Mixer already showed that you can't just migrate and expect your audience to follow, he should've known better.
>>15617821Yea...I'm done caring, clearly she has.
>>15617821How is this being mean? The point of the thread is to post and compare numbers and that's literally what's being done.
So here another thing to see if the cull is still going SMTOWN is going to host another year end concert in a few hours. Last year they peaked at 1M, if they drop yeah god knows what will be Youtube future next year
>>15618043>implying she ever cared to begin with
>>15617302>he took the jab
>>15618085>SMTOWNwho?
>>15617983>393 likes>7,097 watchingBut I was told having likes higher than CCV was the norm?
>>15618195Koreans
>>15618085If a dying idol company like SMTOWN can get 1 mil, a Black Pink or BTS concert would smash that lol.Also, why are legit idol companies are doing free year end concerts for exposure and publicity to millions of viewers? Last night's threads told me that it's not worth it for Cover because they have Holofes.
>>15618195Kpop
>>15618355Last year was due thr coofThis year is definetely more about the exposure.
>>156181954th place corpo in the Kpop idol industry now.
Looks like Bae's flatlined, unless there's a spike that's an in-stream peak of 14499 after almost exactly half an hour. I think the second stream argument for waiting room numbers holds some water, Kiara and Sana had no overlap, Kronii to Ina had to fight Sana's tiny stream, now we have Bae with Gura and Ame on the side. If IRyS also struggles to hit her waiting room that would be pretty indicative.Note I don't think this is necessarily the same thing as the cull or seasonality that we've seen the last few days, still need more data points on that.
>>15618355Anon, BTS’s butter premier is literally 3m. Smtown is not dying they literally had more than 20 million PHYSICAL albums sold for their every group. Blackpink’s Lisa’s solo “Lalisa” premiered at 800k. That’s only her. If Blackpink have another comeback next year, they would easily surpass 2M or even 3M
>>15618202It's simple anon, HoloEN fans are fanatics who will always like the stream as soon as it starts, unlike literally everyone elseWhy they'd do that and then not stick around to actually watch it is left as an exercise for the reader
>>15618008kek
>>15618355Cover are retards. If Holofes was free, they could've made all the money in the world in superchats and memberships. Also, much better PR and much smaller investment, since you don't need a stupid RL stage that makes the live look like shit to 95% of people watching it.
>>15618355I think BlackPink had one but SM's one was the most watched at the end.
>>15616502In comparison to JP viewers yeah. Just showing the total likes isn't going to tell you anything in itself because the argument is EN viewers click like more than JP viewers and just looking at an EN streamers numbers in isolation doesn't prove or disprove that.
>>15618355Kpop pulling insane numbers like 1m+ ccv will be an actual news headlines and their audience will make sure to spread the hell out of it. Numberfagging is encouraged there. Vtubers don't have this benefit.
>>15616929Bae is joining Gura's stream though so the funnel will be at least somewhat split
>>15618570cope
>>15618570*shakes fist at clippers*I mean, I get it to some extent, not everyone has 3-4 hours to spend on just streams, but it's definitely disheartening.
>>15618525It’s part of the big 3 corpos. The other two are YG which has blackpink and JYP which has twice and itzy. Then obviously the biggest corpo is the one that owns BTS.
>>15618355anon, cover already do all the exposure free lives. They're put on by all the talents during the year on their channels.
>>15618545If IRyS doesn't manage to peak pre 30mins she won't once Mio's fortune telling Polka's collab go live.
>>15618676She didn't mentionned it and just chilled for IRyS
How much are we guessing for Gura's turn on Karaoke? I'll put out 70k, she'll get a massive buff for having the 24:00 spot in NA on the dot
>>15616634huh?>>15541211what happened?
>>1561884650k max30k min
>>15618846You're a stupid fool, she gets 40k max. Probably less due to overlap with Chloe.
>>15618564> Smtown is not dying they literally had more than 20 million PHYSICAL albums sold for their every groupLMAO I'm just an SNSD oldfag that gets salty when I look at current kpop numbers blowing the fuck out of old kpop numbers.Physical numbers have always been the cope for SM fans, even back in the SNSD days too. I think digital sales are a better indicator of popularity.SMTOWN feels like they're dying in comparison to the other corpos, but idk how well EXO and NCT are doing now since i stopped following kpop years ago.
>>15618602>Give up several million dollars for "exposure"I think this is the dumbest shit I've read all day.NJU is great exposure for Nijisanji cause they don't pay a dime for it (hence why it's not hosted on the main channel)
>Unironic Kpop talkIt's numbers talk I guess but really?
>>1561884640k max. She's competing with Chloe's outfit debut.
>>15618937what company BTS and blackpink from?
>>15618602Your numbers don't add up. Cover made well over 2 million dollars from the gen 3 concert. Niji only got 130k in superchats from last nights concert. It's not even close to being in the same ballpark
>>15618570To be fair, this is exactly what I do. And not just to HoloEN. If my oshi or second favorite doesn't stream, I would usually open a bunch of streams, check out what is happening, choose what to watch, then like all of them and close. I think it's saviorfagging. When EOPs invaded Aki's stream in 2020, you would routinely see more likes then viewers. That's way before any cull.
>>15619026both companies are retarded, you do both>free for exposure>paid for the money
>>15618937Anon shush. Have you heard of Aespa? Which literally had one of the biggest songs in kpop this year. Literally mogged BTS’s butter in charts in SK. NCT sold 10 Million physical albums which compared to BTS’s 7M
>>15618646>Kpop pulling insane numbers like 1m+ ccv will be an actual news headlines>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0faz0n6fevM>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL4m6VSqMLUsoon
>>15618602200k in superchatsor 2.5 to 5 million in ticket sales (50-100k times $50)If you're cover which do you pick?
>>15619026Yea. Would it be nice to have a free fes-type event with 15-20 talents? Yes. Would they do it? Fuck no, there's no reason to go through all that effort and NOT make some actual money off of it via ticket sales, especially with all the anniversary/bday lives that happen with multiple guests year-round that ARE free.
gura 20k get
>>15619026It's almost certainly a seething SEA poorfag
>>15619105BTS is from BigHit noy called HYBE. Its the biggest corpo now. The original big three are YG (has Blackpink), JYP( has TWICE) and SM.
>>15618078You have a point. I just feel bad about it when people say it is "nijisanji en" as an insult
>>15619056>Hololive is the only thing this board cares about>Hololive is an "idol" company>Kpop idol numberfagging is 10x more advanced and developed than vtuber numberfaggingIt's a natural progression. If you think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if many of the current Hololive fans that numberfag are former kpopfags since they're already used to numberfagging.
>>15619068I think I will be conservative and say around 25k with 2k difference.
>>15618602Anon do u know how easy it is to get 20m yen for a concert? instead of offering 30% to youtube, you can pay it to operations
>>15618937Dude even JYP himself said physical album sales is more important. Heck even BTS started with 0 digital sales, cant chart for shit but they had album sales when they were nobody.
>>15619212The fucking free live concerts were better than the paid ones (camera pointed at a screen).
16.7k for irys waiting room
>>15617928She has her salary men in her pocket as expected. Not worth being impressed by knowing she has reddit backing her
>>15618937NCT is SM main cash cowAespa BTFO Red Velvet in everything and even is on her way to BTFO Twice and Blackpink.Rumored new SM Boygroup in the worksSuperM is a flop, so the female counterpart is debuting in the concert.
>3.9 million
HoloStats seems to have missed the waiting room peak, I saw 16593.
>>15618570Yeah I didn't even used to like streams or videos at all until I started watching Hololive. Now I probably end up liking 20 streams a day, even if I only actually watch 5 of them. I just stop by Holos or Nijis I like and like their stream if I see the frame up.
>>15618937Shit was fun back then. Then 3rd and 4th gen took over and shit became boring as fuck. Soshi will always be GOAT.
>>15618846mid 30k
>>156183551 mil CCV for BTS would not be impressive, most of the top 20 CCV on Playboard is filled with brazilian singers
>>15619427WTF I love BTS now
When will BTS finally defeat Red Bull Stratos?
>>15619487Stfu 3rd gen is the best. Your hags are dying and losing their popularity. Cope
>>15619026They don't make several million dollars, silly. 1. Pay shittone for the venue2. Pay for music licensing. You do realize that licensing for actual lives is not the same as licensing for streams, right?3. Pay for the adsIt's the reason why they need Bushiroad to foot the bill. Investment is much higher and offsets the revenue to a large degree.
Gookfags please leave.
>>15618846What happens if Gura beats Kuroe's outfit number?
>>15619267I considered 25k as well but I have some hope for the 0:00 new years and end of debut buff.
>>15619212Are you stupid? Holo often does it on anniversaries and birthdays
>>15618602anon are you fucking retarded? Just counting physical ticket sales alone Cover made 15 million yen off the sankisei concert, and that's not including stuff like virtual tickets and merch sales. That's more money than Rushia made all month in SCs.
>>15619117>Cover made well over 2 million dollars from the gen 3 concertSource?
>>15619674That would be a bad sign for Chloe, because Gura isn't breaking 50k with a karaoke at 12 am.
>>15619674What happens if Reimu beats Coco's retirement stream?
>>15619728Usually the guest list tops out at 10ish, I'm aware. What I mean is bigger guest lists and lives that span longer than 1 hour for free (but as I said, why the fuck would you bother making those free when you can make MONEY?)
Culture not right. Outrage incoming?
>>15619674Orca will cope with SC numbers
>>15619130Goes to show how out of touch I am.>Which literally had one of the biggest songs in kpop this year. Literally mogged BTS’s butter in charts in SK.Care to drop a link? I did a quick google search and nothing from Aespa comes close to Butter's numbers.
>>15619794Oddly I enjoy seeing Chloe decline so I hope.
>>15619674I think that's fine. Chloe is trading her CCV points for SC points.
>>15583630Numberbros starting a Miku thread. Don't mind, post Miku
>>15619580Is that sorted by music? Top of all categories is still SpaceX I believe and there's a bunch of soccer matches in there too
>>15619427Cover, Holostars KR doko?
>>15619936She's in japan and hafu
>>15619756>>15619279>>15619117I'm glad that in your mind holding an RL live is free, but it's not how it works in reality. If Bushiroad didn't foot the bill, Holofes wouldn't have happened.
>>15619936/hlgg/ is that way >>15618978
>>15619936She's half and Cover hasn't given her a costume yet.It's not her fault.
>>15620027yeah because hosting an online concert is free tooretard
>>15620014Anon most of the views are global, and bet your ass 80% seanigs
>>15618694The corpo who owns BTS is small company before BTS explodeI want to see the equivalent of that for vtuber industry
>>15619936faggot kys she is fine. Wearing it is not bad and she lives there.
>>15619950https://www.kpopstarz.com/amp/articles/299645/20210621/aespa-next-level-surpasses-bts-butter-melon-24hits.htmThis is on melon, one of the biggest charting systems in SK.
Bold prediction but IRyS will peak at 30k.
>>15620081Yes, it is fucking free. You literally already have the studio, 3d models and talent on hand and paid for.
>>15619650Are kpopfags still seething over that Nation's Girl Group title or have they finally moved on?
>>15620110Cover kek
>>15620137>THIS IS WHAT RETARDS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
>>15620137Cover has a studio?
So, who would win the first gold of 2022?
>>15620110That is hololive right now
>>15620027They both saved one another, what are you on? they even willingly invest on a big expo side by side with holofes
>>15620203Probably one of the outfit reveals, unless NijiJP has got something I'm not aware of.
>>15620100Looks like the numbers are going back to normal
>>156201702nd stans are mad that TWICE conquered Japan and catapulted them to becoming the titleholder of the NGG title. Best selling gg of all time
>>15620133Gura has 3 members on her stream rn and she's hardstuck at 20k lolToo much overlap right now for huge numbers
>>15620199Yeah, you know, the one they use to hold all their other 3d lives.
>>15620203La+
>>15620100With Gawr Gura at top baby
>>15620358I'm not exactly sure that's their asset
>>15620406Not for long
Are we actually getting raided? i didn't you know faggots know so much about kshit
>>15620534You thought when people said this board is populated by females they were joking?
>>15620534I don't think so anon. When you care about numbers, you naturally look into what's BIG, and oh boy is Kpop BIG BIG.
>>15620534it is the origins of all numberfagging anonchama
>>15620534Why would a kpop dis*ord raid an namibian zoo watching thread lol. Most of us have Kpop roots before picking up Hololive, that's where we found interest in eastern media anyway.
>>15620534Seanigs that watches vtubers have mostly heard of kpop and even are kpop stans
>>15620027>>15620081So I did the math on this some time back and it was hard to imagine a cost of more than 800k usd. Equipment rental and venue rental isn't more than 200k together. Licensing isn't more than a few 10ks. Staffing is hard to estimate but there's plenty of budget leeway. The biggest cost is actually if they pay talents fair market rate, like a 10k appearance fee each, but there's no way they do this. SPWN takes a ticket cut of 8-15%.https://live.balus.co/You can price all this out yourself if you want to, it's all fairly public, googleable information. Furthermore there is budget data on regular concerts out there and they aren't in the millions. Charging $50 for a digital ticket supercharges Cover's concert revenue in an incredible way.
>sharing thread with kpoopnigseww
>>15620682you also share it with SEAniggers and anons that cant get into numbers in the numbers thread
>>15620100finana just go to bed
Okay potentially very interesting: Fuwa is moving to a new frame since he's about to hit 12 hours, in theory the 9k watching should all move over straight away but how long will it take Youtube to show that compared to previous two part endurance streams?
>>15620350Around 37k for EN right now, the EN's total ccv is around 25k~35k in normal days with multiple members streaming.
>>15620350I'm counting on the japs.
Sana is officially HoloID tier
>>15620534Explains how shit the threads have been. We have zhangs, SEA and kshits here
>>15620534Anon there's a guy who regularly posts screencaps from korean /vt/ here, gooks are part of the community
>>15620657what is this shit
>>15620534What did you numberfag before vtubers, retard?
>>15620772Yeah remember the anon who thought the median was the lowest number of the bunch?
If there are unironic Kpop fans here, it explains literally everything wrong with these threads
>>15620677I think people underestimate the cost of holomems practicing for said event. Is that factored in? Lessons and choreography obviously cost money and most of all their streaming times are shaved. Every hour rushia doesn't stream is a 10k$ opportunity loss.
>>15620808Honestly props to HoloID for holding out well and still enjoying their jobs. Sana must fucking hate her life in comparison, and it probably shows in her performance now
>>15621016now the question would be, which has more kpop shitters here? holobronies or nijiniggers?
>>15620808Always has been.I don't know how cover managed to come up with a model more off-putting that IRyS
>>15620916my business sales
>>15621016pulling it out of my ass. but aren't a majority of kpop fans femail seanigs
>>15620916Nothing. I just find vtubers interesting, I don't have an autistic obsession with numbers.
>>15620534You really think there's no correlation between vtuber numberfags and kpop numberfags?You know we're also watching idols right?
>>15620682anon, people in the numbers thread can't do math, don't know what medians are, don't watch streams and some are even SEA.
>>15621082nijiniggers obviously. kpoop only loves homocock
>>15620916saimoe
>>15620916AKB sales? Those threads were intese.
>>15620657Gross>>15620916Anime BD and Media Create game sales mostly so I'm aware of how much shit taste the nips have at least
Matsuri streaming 30 min before La+ outfit reveal. Will she funnel it to her, or is she simply being matuli?
>>15621082Holos fans. Even if literally every single Niji fan was also into kpop that's like 6 people.
>>15621259funnel wat?
>>15621259She's being matuli. What kinda garbage timing is this you dumb menhera...
>>15621225So Kuzuhafags were Kpopfags. I see the correlation
>>15619580>tfw the secret to ccv success is to actually go to Brazil
>>15621259She's irrelevant, like pissing in a river.
>>15620677>Equipment rental and venue rental isn't more than 200k togetherI'm pretty sure you severely underestimating this number. In fact, I'm willing to bet that venue by itself cost more than 200k. But even assuming you're right, you're still missing cost of advertising, which is non-negligible.
>>15621082Kpop idols = idols = idol companies = hololive = holofaggots
>>15621382how new? the fastest growing streamers on twitch are those who are mainly watched by 2nd and 3rd world shitters
>>15621035I tried to price it but it's hard to say.Let's say you are smart and you get coaches on staff for 80k/year for every 5 talents. You can prorate that to 20 talents a concert, 3 concerts a year. That's 106k a concert. Or you could go for pro market rates of, say 80/hour, say 40 hours per talent per concert, plus a commission rate for choreo of a few grand per song? It's about the same. It's a price, but it isn't mind-blowing compared to known ticket sales.Not going to get into opportunity cost.
>>15621259Lol no, her only slot to not get mogged is here, before the outfit reveal train actually starts
>>15621262We can use the NIJICEOP Ratio and say that's like... a world of difference in favor of Nijifag!
>>15621329her sovl
>>15621016Hololive KR will happen, they will bring kpop culture to hololive, the gooks will show the nips how idols really work. Cry more
>anons cant get into numbers even to save their lives for chuubas>now suddenly they are masters of maths when it comes to kshiti fucking hate all of you
>>15621259wow she'll funnel maybe 3-5k! Nice that she's finally getting a Live2D update, hers has been one of the worst for a long time.
>>15621442It's Mexicans. Weirdly enough, it's mexicans from Spain. I guess they're like the master race of spanish?
>>15621035Holos pay out of pocket for that iircNijis do at least
>>15621442See every top ranking stream globally at any time and it's almost guaranteed to be 2nd or 3rd world. pic related
>>15621045I'm pretty sure HoloID are more than happy to be the most popular Vtubers in their country, while making more money than 90% of population.
kpopfags are worse than subhuman
Superchat ranking doko?
>>15621564Are they gonna fix her face looking like a cartoon bird?
holokiller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXIFv69xjnw
Explain why they didn't put the weaker singers on overlap hours.
>>15621680Yeah of course. But Sana is not streaming to indonesea.
>>15621748Hope so.
Reminder:>the cull is realNJU peaked higher than Koshien, Pekora and Gura's outfit by a significant margin>the cull isn't realHololive reclined as a wholeChoose carefully holobronies
>>15621715Anon, if you see stan twt, you’ll know they’re worse than that. Worse than everyone in this board.
>>15621792I mean, realistically, she probably is. She's dead in their timezone and most of them speak English.and she's an indo
>>15621762Packing this nijinoon full of people aren't they.
>>15621743Daily is here >>15611003 monthly and annual will be up soon
>>15621779IRyS needs to leave EN management. Hope she makes Holosingers group with AZKi
>>15621933In a weird way that explains why she gets those views then.
>>15621872Cull only effects Hololive, specifically Pekora.
>>15621589Hispanics aren't don't have a particular cultural center and they all got over themselves when it comes to national pride. They won't automatically hate if you're from their former colonial master or the backwater neighbor nation. If you're funny and entertaining, you're entertainning. They're just all a rowdy bunch anyway.
>>15621779It's the opposite. Imagine if you could stream at any time but behind a karaoke relay, at what time would you choose?
>>15621792Shitting on Sana is just beating a dead horse. Hopefully, she changes her ways next year.
>>15621872I choose the option that gives me the biggest numbers, baitchama.Your move.
>>15622026
>>15621762>6k waitingis it?
>>15621872Holo's are getting disproportionately culled, obviously.
>>15622034they only fight when it comes to which dub is better, the LATAM dub or the spain dub of animes with infamous cases like the one od DBZ
>>15621779Chicken doesn't really have a brain. 15 minutes break is stupid because if there is no break they won't be overlapped.
>>15622026I wonder why just her
>>15621762>Last episode, full cast ensemble buff vs Nijinoon's declining numbers this time aroundI wonder which prevails.Costumes gonna beat it anyways.
>>15621409I didn't estimate, I dug up actual quotes. Was months ago but here's some I dug up in the last 10 minutes as examples:https://www.t-bunka.jp/host/hall/info08.htmlhttps://uniquevenues-en.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/pricelist/As you can see none of these are in the 200k usd range and typical seating for vtuber concerts maxes at 3000 or so.
>>15622034Yeah this pretty much sums it up. My younger cousin who lives in Mexico came over for the holidays and he showed me what streamers he watches, which were these light skinned mexicans. To my surprise, the guy was actually moderately entertaining. He makes so much money tho it shocked me
>>15622334she commited the capital sin of not streaming on christmas and christmas even
>>15621872anon, whichever answer ends up with everyone getting higher numbers is the right answer.
>>15621872meh who cares the cull is them losing 10k-30k views.
>>15622391Would they have max seating during the pandemic? Pretty sure they had a 6-foot mandate
>>156221033rd-4th place for US times as EN, NIJI showed once again that on new years it's much better to stream before the evening. The midnight buff can only do so much compared to the casuals tuning in before they actually go out.
>>15622453Pekora was with her MOM and not any BF ok shut the fuck up about it. Don't expect the neet loser retard to have the balls to meet a guy irl
>>15622603Didn't they change it to 3?
>>15622334She let chicken go cold.
>>15622603Well we know that the gen3 concert was held at a venue that had 3100 max seating (Tokyo Dome City Hall). Even if the legal seating is, say, 1600, the point is we're not talking venues way out of scale of the ones we can find quotes for. It's not we're renting 50000-seat stadiums.
>>15622658She willingly threw herself on a grenade to spend time with the person she lives with every day?
Irys stuck at 14k
>>15622782Yeah. It's her mom who is known to be a very good person.
>>15622823Things arent looking very good for who's next
Hop in big numbers worshippershttps://youtu.be/16Y1b4S3L1A
>>15621872Cull only effects HoloEN, specifically Gura.
>>15622782>>15622883I forgot to add how she lives with her, but that doesn't mean she normally spends time with her.
>>15622022As a pioneer I'm hoping for that to happen. Perhaps it's what is needed to get IRyS to actually sing.
Time for a direct comparison, Mio's NY tarot reading stream reached 11k last year. I'd expect a direct increase on that number in normal circumstances.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynatEk-xcG8https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Cjj2D5n_BJI (last year)
>>15622741Venues are cheap. People overestimate how much they cost. Empty stadiums are burning money every second they sit empty. Staff, security, insurance, rights, rentals are where the costs add up. And lol at Cover spending a lot on advertising. If only the could get some popular streamers to promote them
>>15623189Duck should be about to finish so my guess is 15-20k.
>>15610901sasuga stable octopus. Able to hide among its home coral reef and beat back a shark attack.
>>15622022Good thing I'm not YAGOO, cause I'd have gone and sectioned off IRyS, Suisei, AZKi and Mori (forget Sora, she's a lost cause since she's signed to a label already) off and had them on a 6-week song release schedule between originals and covers.
>>15623553what about their streaming schedules?
>>15623553that seems like a lot of work anonchama
>>15622391Fair enough. Still, hard to say how accurate those numbers, considering we don't know how large the venue actually was.
Sana actually did it...she is the first EN to stay at 3 digits in a stream, fucking amazing
>2021 Hours Watched - Fem
>>15623553The frog did what he could for AZKi. I'm expecting good numbers for her transition to hololive in april.
Fuwa ended his first endurance stream with 9.3k, then moved to a new frame where it took him over 20 minutes and getting to the last screen to hit 7k where he's now stalled
>>15623904at least she set the record to holo with most debuffs
>>15619117Yeah and don't forget after youtube cut and niji cut it only 50k and they need to share to 50+ people not even 1k per person lol. Even chloe waiting room can do better than that.
>>15623904Is Animal Crossing buff or a debuff game?
>>15623938>Fubuki with 4.1M in a single monthi fucking kneel
>>15624153It's like that one Ainz scene but with debuffs instead.
IRyS has been stuck at 14.5k for a while.
>>15624208Debuff when alone like this. It was neutral/slight buff when the DLC dropped, and it's a slight buff when in collab.
>>15623938I expect no vtubers in the top 10 next year the way things are going
>>15623938Fubuki is so fucking strong...
Gura's mad gab segment is going to print clips like no tomorrow. wonder if it will translate into views for council
>>15624224someone should make an edit of it but with sana and her debuffs, but i dont think the numbers thread can get into OC's
>every 15 minutes likes go up by 1kMan these EN fans love liking and leaving huh fellas
>>15624335So Sana keeps doing these long-ass endurance streams of debuff games that nobody asked for? Why is she, I don't know, play some Jump King or something, if she wants to do an endurance.
>>15623904It happened before with Bae and Fauna too
>>15624335who told her to do an endurance stream when endurances are only entertaining when there's suffering/ with impromptu collabs? There's nothing suffering about animal crossing bugs/fish it's literally just afk farming, and everyone else is busy with the EN relay/doing their own things.
>>15623641>>15623682Suisei already releases monthly covers. That's already pushing above 4 weeks. Mori is a workaholic and she is used to the hustle so she can adapt to it easily. AZKi was more or less held back by INNK's legal structure.If they stream only 3-4 days per week for no more than 5 hours, it will be manageable. The biggest problem with IRyS is that she gets bogged down by recording after constantly streaming, which ends up as a "two steps forward, one step back" situation for her. They need to spread originals out further and pepper covers in between to keep the music side fed and their online presence stable.
>>15624269She hit 14k over 30 minutes ago and has hovered between there and 14.6k since. The graph is so fucking flat.
>>15624675wouldn't be weird if the excess are actually listening on karaoke
>>15624224>Bless of dark skin>Infinity dog break>Waste of drawing potential >Greater Pokemon endurance >Teehee of fuck you
This Gura stream is churning out likes. Her streams after a week typically have 35-40k depending on the game, yet here we are with 32-33k already
why do you poeple alwasy talk about sana at this hour? when there are more important streams with data to talk about.
>>15624764>If they stream only 3-4 days per week for no more than 5 hours, it will be manageable.I mean no more than 5 hours per stream, I'd argue that 3-hour streams would be the ideal.
>>15620808Ame...
Are Calli and Ame up against Laplus outfit?
>>15624764The biggest problem with IRyS is that she can't do English language covers or archived karaoke, and her audience has zero interest in Japanese language ones. How is she supposed to incline as a singer if she can't even do popular songs in a 3d stream? Debuting her under EN branch was a mistake.
>>15624977the recent Minecraft ended on 31k as far as I remember
>>15625056Yes
> EN has more like than CCVWesterners like then leave> JP has more like than CCVThe cull
>>15624977Tourist magnet, chumbuds hate to admit this.
>>15625019Numbers are pretty par for the course for EN, and the JP new year stuff haven't started yet, so naturally people are talking about the only holo outliner right now
>>15624720>>15624762*shrug*As others have said, she does to herself, why should anyone worry about her numbers when clearly she doesn't?
IRyS is just a flop. Her new song suck despite pandering to whiny EN fans who wanted english songs and now her future songs will be of the same quality. EN VSinger just doesn't work
>>15624915
>>15624977All me
>>15623402Not looking likely
>>15625241more like EN VSingers managed by Omega
>>15625165chumbuds are tourists. They only stick around for Gura.
Mio numbers: She's not even at 8k, and she's already 23 minutes into the stream.I'm really not sure what to say about that.
New idol unit (like NEGI*U)https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1477112653898448897
>>15625177nigga polka/FLARE,nijinoon,mio, fuwa are streaming now
>>15625274dont get too cocky nijibro, there's still her unarchived
So Gura won't cut the stream to start a new one? I guess that's a 1 million vod
>>15625241She probably will have a Japanese version that will be much better. R-right?
>>15625077If they wanted an EN vsinger, they need a dedicated music production team behind her so she can put out originals each month. That obviously hasn't happened.
>>15625392Dude, her karaoke is dead last, she can still stream over ame's turn
>>15625330>newfucking newfag they just gave it a name
>>15625392She's going to end when Karaoke starts. She's got the frame up for it already.
>>15625392She only made another reservation for karaoke.
>>15625308something funky is definitely going on. irys was stuck at 14k for a good 30mins, never seen a graph so flat before
>>15625077I don't know about you, but IRyS has some of the more weeby of the weebs. I bet she has more people willing to listen to JP song covers watching her live than Gura does, and that's saying something. But IRyS doesn't release songs at a regular, predictable pace that would help her incline as a vsinger.
Who was Mio competing with during last year's fortune telling? Currently at 8.5k which is lowe rthan Polka's collab...
7.4k on Mori's waiting room and it seems that there wasnt any waiting room cull since she keeps inclining
>>15625596You only saw 7.4k? I saw 16k before it dropped.
>>15625274with that lineup, shouldn' it be higher? where the 100k mk bros, or 150k nju bots?
>>15625596She had 16k waiting
>>15625541That's because everybody else got filtered at this point. She's been doing Japanese karaoke for a while, and numbers are inclining, but it's an uphill battle.
>>15625596Holostats shows the waiting room was at least 15954. I didn't catch it myself.
>>15625596Anon-chama....https://holo.poi.cat/stream/T617fEu9ImQHolostats caught a peak of almost 16k.
>>15625295A million of tourists click her stream and a percentage of them sub then they come here with their *cord friends to shit the board
gura viewers migrating to calli
matsuri right now
>>15625385>bunch of irrelevant shittersI'll continue to talk about Sana
>>15625541>>15625077 (me)Also, I'm a retard and I should've said "her target audience doesn't want Japanese songs" instead of "Her audience doesn't want Japanese songs".
>>15625901That is normal matsuri yet.
>>15625330FubuMio dragging their daughter Ayame to do things.
>>15625901To be fair, she should've put a black silhouette on the thumbnail. Could've leeched from an outfit reveal relay.
Mori 14.3k dnp0s
Matsuri's stream has visibly less red SCs but she still have a lot of gachis.
>>15626152It's just a 2.0
>starting with QueenMori I kneel.
>>15626254captcha-chama...
She's not passing Ina
At this pace I'm confident Mori is going to smash her waiting room max, remains to be seen if she can top Ina's peak but I'm guessing no.
>>15626456Nope, too many overlaps.
>>15626498Au contraire anon, she'll get the relay peak 35k.
Gura will pass 30k, right? Or will the new outfit overlap be too much?
>>15626655Better start your 20k smart fridges quickly anon
>>15626456No shit, you'd be an idiot to expect that
How are last samurais feeling today?
>>15626709>Sana
>>15626709>Sana>3 digitsJEZAS
>>15626709Nothing because we don't pick fights with our own. Also there's an outfit reveal.
>>15626709wait for the outfits
>>15626709>Ame losing to Laplus waiting roomAre you setting this up for grudgeposting later?
>rapurasu new outfit waiting room>6kholoJP.....
>>15626456she's just screeching than singing
>>15626700You're asking the stream right now or the karaoke?
>>15626944Only way to karaoke Queen properly.
>>15626856>>15626863>>15626867oh nyo, someone didn't get the memo that Gura's having a karaoke later
Will she get 1M before the stream?
uh, isn't this kinda bad for an outfit
Everyone is getting a good amount of SC today
>>15626709Zero pity for Sana. She knew she wasn't popular or interesting enough to tank those multiple breaks.
Is this where the 'cull' happened? The current one is 10k lower than that despite the lineup being stronger.
>Yearly SC is up>Monthly isn'tThe fuck is Playboard doing
>>15627076b-but muh cull
>>15627076I bet you never saw the numbers of a niji outfit reveal
>>15626705Anon, unlike you I have not just yet forsaken the day. Let me have some hope.
>>15627076I don't see it happening. but if Chloe is close to gura's numbers its going to be bad
>>15627076Masturi is directing her viewers to her at this moment so she will save her kouhai.
Can Mori break 18k before La+'s outfit?
>>15627204why would i compare it to niji outfits? holo outfits get far better numbers than niji's
>>15626944It's Mori doing Queen. She doesn't have a hope in hell of actually singing it properly.
>>15627076It's midday in Japan, frankly not a good time desuAlso only 30 minutes so don't expect Rushia numbersTYPE THE CAPTCHA HERE?
>>15627076Last year we had Nene with her joke outfit warming up the relayThis year, we have... Matsuri lol
>>15627271to laugh
>>15627119Yes actually that's about the right timing. Japanese news streams had the same drop at the same timing.
2021
>>15627076Isn't this a bit early for new outfits, anyway? Might have the same problem Niji outfit reveals have
>>15627346 (me)oops kek
>>15627403Gura doko?
>>15627403>can't even break 1 millionLamykeks I thought you said your oshi made a lot of money?
>>15627458Gura is unsuccessful despite her dead sub count.
>>15627403sasuga Leonardo
>>15627346Did you look at the numbers for gen 4 and 5 (minus nene) last year that started at the same time? Started with Coco at 61.5k.
>>15627403December numbers not included?
>>15627471900k vtuber please understand.Meanwhile 1.8M vtubers on her feet
>>15627103As someone who doesn't watch her, is she actually self-aware, or are you just saying that?
>>15627609Everyone knows Coco is an anomaly
>>15627458
>>15626501Not just that, Ina had the perfect time with when people were awake but before everyone in NA left to go out and party for New Year's Eve.
>>15627502yeah she should just graduate, her fans also should kill themselves fucking pedos
>>15627721based nene mogging gura
>>15627403Where's kson?
Meanwhile on twitch, Vshojo's new year partyIronmouse 13.3kSnuffy 6.2k
God I'm muting Mori, fucking save me cunny.
Predictions on Ame's relay numbers?
>>15627076coco had 17k waiting last year
wow, i didn't know this is where gura hater gather around, i'm gonna fit in here
>>15627793>needed to fake a mental breakdown to get pity SCs
was it all a dream last night?
Kneel to FBKING
HAPPY NEW YEAR FILTHY NEWFIES
>>15627717Coco's number was the second lowest anon, only Towa straight after her got less. (which I'm still mad about because it was the best outfit)
>>15627848oh no no no how do nijiniggers cope, they cant use this for shitposting
>>15627879your oshi still mogged and lost
>>15627848i really do wonder what holo en's numbers would be if they were on twitch with raids from clout chasers
New Year outfit reveal numbers are looking grim brosLaplus begins with 8k
Oh no laplus don't know how to do outfit reveal.
LAPLUS WHY ARE YOU STARTING WITH YOUR HEAD 1 MINUTE INTO THE STREAM
What the fuck
Laplus wtf
LA+ WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S NOT HOW YOU DO IT
>>15627997yah i hate those pedo bait
>Starts stream with the revealThis kusogaki...
When will this supposed end of the year effect end?
Did La+ just showed it Luna style. Muh numbers
Laplus hates numbers
????? SPEEDRUN LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
She even managed to surpass Gura right at the end for the year. Marine Fubuki and Gura all really close together, Pekora far above everyone, Miko very impressive.
>>15628112This might be the new normal for holo.
RIP numbers.Just the flat reveal on the outfit.
Laplus is fucking retarded my god
LAPLUS YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THISShe's peaking lower than Polka isn't she.
LA+ LITERALLY SAIDFUCK NUMBERS
she's awfully nervous
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK
Based Lap. Who cares about numbers?
>>15627525That's a lot of money, a red SC in Brazil is just $18
>>15628112Its possible that it will be a cycle of low numbers until February and then a recovery from march to big numbers during summer and especially october november december with a huge decline again sometime in december....
People didn't leave though
So if Chloe is /#/'s girl, then La+ is the villain?
>>15628281what is there to peak hahahaha this fucking kid
that... was possibly the worst outfit reveal ever
>>15628406Fitting for what looks like the worst outfit ever
>>15628456Polka exists
>>1562784234th$415k (in half a year)
even with the instant reveal, these numbers are disgusting for an outfit reveal...
>>15628456I mean....What the FUCK were they thinking when they designed this?What kinda wacky-ass outfit is this?
>>15628329Honorable kneel award for /our/ boy Leonardo?
Oh joy, at this rate Gura is getting a free win.>>15628456She has her face on it so it's at least befitting.
>>15628406nah, it's comedy gold
>>15628544She requested for it to be this way.
Mori lost 600 when La+ started but she's bounced back all the way to 18k
>>15628456Her hair and head is great. I don't know why random art and manga panels are pasted on her kimono. I'm hoping this is a fakeout since she did ask for art on twitter recently.
>>15628531ngmi
>>15628596Ame ended her stream.
>>15628596>tab out to check la+>"oh she already revealed it, it sucks">back to previous stream
Yeah, La+ did good. I'd start with the head as well if my new year's outfit was as shit as hers.
what is she gonna do with the remaining 22 minutes then lmaoit's so bad i'm laughing hard
Gura unarchived might beat the JP outfits... What the fuck did Susan do
>>15628544Is a manga yukata. Fits her character
>>15628281Her idol is towa after all.
what happened to you, yamada?
None of these reveals will get above 50k would they.... Last year's reveals got 90k to 100k or some shit. Laplus killed all the hype and momentum so as to sabotage Chloe later.
This outfit reveal suck the silver lining is the viewers didn't leave and its still inclining.
Oh nyo last samurai bros what do we do...
>>15628661It's on purpose, she is the ksgk and she called it an itakimono (like itasha)
>>15628721Susan might be fucking with numbers but this is on La+ being retarded.
>>15628721It's not even Susan's fault this time. Fucking Lapuls doesn't know how to do reveals.My last hope is on Iroha.
>>15628721none. the kusoge killed the hype kek
https://twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1477127520629981185
20k outfit reveal lol
>>15628782howdy cowboy
>>15628765>Laplus killed all the hype and momentum so as to sabotage Chloe later.Chloe will be fine as long as the superchats pile up.
Don't despair just yet, we've still got Chloe's reveal...
EN does not care about JP, their numbers are mutually exclusive
>Around 20k peak CCV for an outfit revealOhnonono, Holobronies…. What did you say about Niji outfit?
>>15629011S-sugoi!
>>15628849She knows she just doesn't give a fuck and is a brat
>>15620014they wouldnt be able to get any one of talent anon
>>15629011>>15628946budokan is next
>>15628595>>15628804While that is funny, is she just not intending to ever use it again because it'll clash terribly with whatever she's doing or whoever she's doing it with.>>15628752Hey, Towa can do events right and get numbers for them.
>>15628946Watamage doing something right for a change...
>>15628765>Laplus killed all the hype and momentum so as to sabotage Chloe later.whats the rrat here?
>>15629011i kneel watamage
>>15629011>TV>2022Who cares?
JWU what did I miss numberbros?
>>15629130cope
shes going AFK for Cali. she wants to fuck her
>>15629130
>>15629130Asia
Remember when people called La+ a numberfag? When in reality she has been purposefully debuffing herself as much as possible?
>>15629130normalfags
>>15629196my fucking sides
>>15629135La+ just dumped her outfit out and it's kinda bad (even if she requested it). Like come the fuck on this definitely ranks as one of the worst Holo-outfits, ever.
>>15629063Panda peaked at 21k for an outfit reveal during her birthday. So?
>ask her to have a 1 hour debut>only has enough content for 30 min>ask her to have a 30 min costume reveal>only has enough content for 15 min
>>15629130Tourists care, anonchama....
>>15629130>Who cares?>Not in C99 corpo booth>Who cares?Every single time
I fucking hate youtube
>>15629259That doesn't make the point you want it to make, anon
Moggedhttps://youtu.be/16Y1b4S3L1A>800k in 15 minutes
>>15629011Whoever is Watame's manager, that man or woman might be the most competent person in all of Hololive. They keep getting her all these opportunities, despite her mediocre numbers.
>>15629307>content for 30 min10 minutes video
>>15629340he is right thou
>>15629109They unironically hate each other's guts. Chloe is the antithesis to Laplus.
>>15627403At least wait until they compute December in, retard.
>>15629336I'm one of the dislikes. Where are yours?
Even Korone's joke outfit has more effort than whatever Yamada is wearing.
>>15629336This one can easily be explained by massive churn. They tune in, see she's already revealed (and it's bad) and then bail.
>>15629383It's always the mids that gets the best managers...
>>15629383I'm so happy that of everyone in Hololive, she's the one who's lucked out in that sense. For how much of herself she puts into Hololive it's nice to see her succeed outside of the conventional metrics.
>>15629430the nigger black face tree does not have much more effort
>>15629336quick fix
>>1562933688k churn in 18 minutes is... not impossible but yeah, what the fuckI hope we get a drawn out reveal to compare it to.
>>15629011This is the same channel that featured Suisei's?
>>15629419Laplus refers to Chloe as "that thing"
>>15629383It’s a woman and her manager fucking loves Watame. Makes sense she’s doing her best to elevate her.
>>15629079>it'll clash terribly with whatever she's doing or whoever she's doing it with.It doesn't look that weird from the waist up, and that's all you see 99% of the time
Number bros I hate it....literally an outfit slot wasted on a joke...
>>15629349800k people watching yet the chat is 10x slower than Pekora’s chat. Wtf gookbots?
>>15629533Its 110k+ now
>>15629419>>15629615you are both shizophrenic. It's part of the act but they won't intentionally sabotage each other
>ina actually mogged calli2022 is already over
>>15629233She's trying to shake off the gachikois before they get too attached
in case some of you don't know itit's pretty common for children to wear kimonos covered popular in anime pictures like Demon Slayer, SAO, etc. her papa tried to make her as bratty as possible
>>15628765More like she sabotage all her other genmates reveal as well...selfish chunibyo mf
>>15629722Ina vs Sana, SubaruMori vs Gura, Ame, Mio, Matsuri, Polka/Flare, La+ Outfit RevealI'm shocked she beat Mumei and Kronii, honestly.
I'm looking at Nijimado and their numbers don't look culled at all, is the cull cope still existing right now or what
>>15629760No, no, i get that. It still looks terrible nonetheless.
i'm dropping La+, watch as the nips does it as well
>>15629683You jest, but kpop stans unironically use bots all the time.
>>15629913>JP>dropping cunny
>>15629875As it's been established, the cull hit high tier Holos disproportionately hard. Do your archive reps.
>>15629722Anon, mori had it harder than the tako and im surprised that she managed to incline a bit despite the overlap with la+
>>15629981rarity buff
I still don't understand what happened to Holo's numbers over the past week
>>15629336432k minutes watched120k views3.6 minutes per view
>>15630066debut buff
>>15629913only niji jops watches her.
>>15629913She already starting to lose viewers with each stream...she only still able to get decent ccv due to collab with popular holos
>>15629913They aren't. If you understood japanese at all the chat is eating it up. And she is holding 21k live views and inclining
>>15629981you could have used Pekora, but en vs jp wont work, right?
>>15630078No-one does. It's bizzarre.
>>15630108Already way overShe revealed the fucking thing first minute in
>>15629875Are you sure. Why is Niji show peaking 10k lower than this one I highlighted even though it has a stronger lineup then?
sc so far
>>15630169last samurai cope
>>15630119matuli?
>>15630182That's a pilot episode though?
>>15629981Hololive is dying
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA LOWER THAN AKIROSE AND POLKA JESAS
>>15630078>vod views still there, ccv dives out of nowhereliteral youtube fuckery
>>15629683Oh boy I have something to show you.
>>15630078It's not just Holos, numbers dropped overall for everyone.
>>15630206Pick on Polka's outfit next, cowboyI'm still waiting for your proof of membership to Gura
>>15630191Not good
>>15629913Why? Did she say something?
>>15630153Peko isn't cunny. Should've used Shion tho
>>15630256mental illness
>>15630191This is what you get if you try to act chunibyo... wonder how she feels if lui get double that amount later....
>>15630336She doesn't give a fuck about number
L-Lui, please restore the dignity of your branch>4.6k waitingDear christ
This is fucking hopeless.
>>15630256Why aren't Hololive fans doing this
>>15630256And this shit is why Youtube has gone so hard on the 'One Viewer, one view' measures.
>>15630256what the fuck
>>15630256We need to ascend to this level and bring numberfagging to a new dimension.I kneel kpop stans.
Holy fuck imagine when EN gets their 3D
>>15630356She refuses to read superchat, you really think she cares?
>>15630385Same length and timeslot at least so we can compare VOD views
>>15630211festival only was in it with her for group collab with other popular holos...i bet she doesnt dare to do a solo collab with matuli
>>15630401>>15630480YT's reaction to this type of number illness is more than likely the cause of the current problems.
>>15630182Because it's the first episode of the week you fucking retard?
>EN mogging JP hard now that they're on equal playing fieldsAnd all is right with the world once more
>>15630336ANON THE OUTFIT REVEAL WAS 2 MINUTES, AS SOON AS THE STREAM STARTED. AM PANICKING
>>15630256And this is why we can't have nice things, like counting as a viewer while alt-tabbed
>>15630522It'd be more accurate to say she only reads the ones that are interesting so she can banter with chat, but she doesn't make it a usual thing to read them all.
>>15630600Cope NijiniggerAre you still butthurt about 39?
This is some stealth box pushing. Forgive me for all my doubts, Gura
>>15630256Holy fuck is that why there’s almost a million watching yet the chat is so fucking slow and it’s not even on slow mode
doing the niji style not the holo style kek
>>15630600and last samurais claiming they're being culled when nijijp is unaffected fucking kek
>>15630701>194kEN's mogging the Nijinigs too, why would I not be happy
>>15630748all me
Lui-nee please, save the numbers. Milk it as long as you can.
Did Mio overlap last year as well?She's peaking 2k lower than last year.
Ame 17.6k waiting room
>>15630522Of course she cares...she just trying to act chunibyo about it since she attract zoomers poorfag
>>15630748I want Joy and Irene to step on me
This is your last chance kakage
>7k viewersChat is unreadable. No cull here definitely
>>15630816I want Lui nee to milk me as long as she can
>numberfags talking shit about numberfagging gookskek
jesas this gura stream is going to flood youtube with clips
>>15631015We just like actual numbers not fake numbers.
>>15631039All about the VOD views at the end of the day
>>15631015those gooks are numberniggers
>>15631039yeah that one chumbud JPsubs clipper is going to milk this thing for weeks.
hello boys, looks like some good numbers for my wife.
>>15631015We like numbers but we don't resort to this shit >>15630256 and botting though. Kpop numberfags are a different breed.
So, numbers are low all across the board for Holos after the christmas relay which led me to believe that everyone who sang in the relay got flagged by Youtube
>>15631128bullshit, at the end of the day all you care about it who gets "the medal"
>>15631015I just hate koreans and koreaboos
>>15631015We're number enthusiasts, aka Numberchads.KPOP stans are mentally unstable Numberniggers.
these are some pretty poor numbers for new outifts...
Hey guys, let's all kneel to Lui who knows how to actually numberfag and build suspense r-right???
>the only holos capable of winning any golds are EN nowLast samurais trembling and pissing their pants
>>15631015We might have lover numbers, but at least we still have our honor
Fucking hell, as if Lui doesn't have it hard enough she gets Susaned.
>>15631337Pitting your own against your own is typical Nijinigger behaviorRemind me, who won last year's gold?
>>15631203I'd say you're reaching, but there was that incident with several VODs getting flagged.
>>15631337Doesn't matter, Gura is honorary JP
>>15631328she does but people don't seem to like her enough to stay
Lui has 43k vod views already, no chance of chums
>>15631449Koshien 2020?
>>15629542Yep they featured Rain Drops' song for the OP and Suisei's Stellar Stellar for ED before.
The VOD views will be something else for this one
>>15631449Coco is honorary EN, chink.
At this point, I might as well quit numberfagging forever since it ain't the same anymore. What the fuck did YT do to Hololive's CCV?
SUSAN
>>15631555 G O L D
39
>>15631598The same thing they did to holoEN, things are just fair now.
Gura just got DMCA’d by Cover
Fuck you susan
>>15631590And HoloEN is Hololive
>>15631555this is our future, vtubing is dead
wtf susannnnnnnnnnn
FUCK YOU SUSAN
Wow, Gura got suspended and it actually went back. Ludwig mogged LOL
>>15631689>>15631846>>15631837pranked
>>15631858Are you retarded? Of course holoEN is hololive, it's just too bad the rest of hololive are so crap that holoEN has to carry their deadweight ass.
>that low part on lui's outfitFUCK YOU KAKAGE!
>>15631598this, what's the point of of this thread if CCV is meaningless now?
>>15631203This might be a good guess. Hopefully, Cover is actually talking to their Youtube reps and this shit will get sorted.
ENcucks won't let go of that low view = youtube problem cope are they...
>>15631837>>15631846>>15631957>>15631979>>15631983>fooled by the memeshark
>>15631555only 20k with raid? weak
>>15631983SHE BACK BUT LOL>>15631637
>>15632016You mean Gura because the other ENs aren't that great either.
Anons i just noticed the SMTOWN event went from 980k to 930k real quick kek so the cull is real
>>15632139>oh nyo Gura doesn't count because she's too strongthe absolute state of last samurais
>>15632016spic chumshart...
>>15632058Oh we're fine now kenji, the JPs are finally playing on an even field
>>15631598Since Niji isn't affected much, my theory is that for JP Holos, views are only counted by JP only accounts & location. NijiJP isn't affected much since their fanbase are mostly JPs but for Holos, their numbers are a combination of JP, TWD, SEA and other global nations.
Lui cute.
>>15632212Can you not read you literate SEAniggerI said Gura is carrying not Gura doesn't count
THESE NUMBER ACTUALLY LOWER THAN EN KARAOKE RELAY LMAO
holox...
>>15632147The cull is real
>>15631598Same, I'm just gonna go back to enjoying streams without caring about the numbers.My oshi isn't even one of the top streamers numberwise anyway.
Lui did everything right, but the funnel from Laplus was just too low. Cunny set hag to fail.
>>15631555>tfw Ina is the most watched volver on NYE
No amount of EN vs JP will ever give you back that 39 viewers, Nijifags
ironmouse with 20k
>>15632432Lui-nee...
>EN culled by 50% or more>last samurais : "En reclining hahaha">JP finally culled to the same rate as EN>last samurais: "who cares about numbers anyway they're not reliable"
>>15631811kek
>HoloJP reclining>SUSAN IS CULLING OUR VIEWS!!fucking kek
lets kioani this shit
it just feels bad cause it's so sudden, it's like in less than a week they lost like half and i literally have no explanation for it
At this rate Gura's relay is gonna have more people than Chloe's outfit reveal. Goddamn this is a fucking disaster. Fuck Laplus for real.
>>15632619kill yourself spiczo
>>15632642Cope JP whores reclining
>>15632603>vshoujo>twitchthis is a numbers thread anonchama
>>15631598So Hololivers are still getting around the same vod views but their CCV magically got cut by half for whatever reason.Why is YouTube so trash.
>>15632727keep coping last samurai
Plusmates are the new nousagi aren't they? Just going to dip once their oshi isn't on screen even though there's an event immediately after.
>>15632622This is not a decline, half of their viewers died overnightGive me a reasonable explanation that doesn't involve chicken
This is fucking pathetic, HoloJP.
>>15632642Most people in this thread just kinda forgot how absurdly sudden it was. It's like viewers all decided to stop watching Hololive altogether
hopefully these numbers will stay, will her appearance still repel people?
Lui-nee
>>15632734but like, converse with me honestly instead of shitposting, wouldn't a recline happen gradually and not suddenly
>>15632773Youtube finally rolled out the patch that cut EN views by half to JP.
>>15632586That would be Pekora with 26k.
>>15632212>>15632619>>15632734>>15632755kill yourself mexican shitter.
>>15632642well we have a bunch of explanations, but they are all infuriating
>>15632642Suisei literally almost got 50k with a Christmas karaoke relay a week ago and now we can't even get 30k for a costume reveal?
While you were numberfagging CCV I was studying VOD, likes, polls and sub numbers. And now that Susan is at the gate you dare ask us for help?
>>15632622>decline in CCV>all other metrics remain stableif you can offer some other explanation I'm eager to hear it
>>15632642
>>15632869The cull is real or not?>>15632958Post your studies
Its time to stop coping and just count views per week or views per video. Even Nijisisters can compete with that Kuzuha had more views then pekkers last year after all.
Lui's face is so clean, I hope they fucking rip that headwing, it's so disgusting
>she has a youtube stickpraying to the numbergods i see ruinee
>>15632853>asking a brown ESL to converse with you
So does this mean we can talk about Pekora normally without associate her with numbers every time?
>>15633024Of course it's real, the only ones denying it happens were the last samurais and nijiniggers who used culling as evidence EN was reclining, now that it's happening to holoJPs suddenly last samurais like you are panicking and believing in it hahahahahaha
>>15633058I'm nothing without CCV, neither are you and this thread.
>>15632853Oh no this is exactly what happened last year at the exact same time with ENs, 100% YT fuckery. Just cathartic to see you fags who called us copers on your knees now that if affects your chuubas
Kanata's costume reveal last year (84k peak, 360k): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lxAqsyXqegLaplus's costume reveal 30 mins ago (21k peak, 164k now) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCHMamMb-_ANumbers to keep an eye on for the next few days.
>>15633058Well kuzuha is below pekora this year in views.
If we count VoD then Ayame become low tier shitter kek
Lui's has managed to go back above her outfit reveal peak.
SCchad here. All you guys are losers
>>15633188So 39 viewers isn’t real and Pekora got mogged by NJU?
>>15633254What the actual fuck?
Lui's design is great, but I hate her rigging, particularly her mouth. Why the fuck does she have upper teeth visible all the time? They move up and down when she talks, it looks horrible.
with the highest being around 21k can Chloe beat gura?
>>15633188Dec cull is different from the one you pulled out your ass in October without evidence. The evidence came up after and it fit your narrativePost your membership already, chumbud bro>>15633287Numbers are numbers you don't multiply a theoretical multiplier to it
>>15633287If NJU actually got 300k live I'd be for it if SUSAN WOULD STOP FUCKING WITH US ffs
>>15633310She has that Korone mouth
>>15633310rariemon is a hack
>>15633287Gura already mogged them both.
>>15633254???
>>15633191Maybe you sharters who don't know better than high school statistics. Its time this place gets smart, starts keeping twenty variables on every top 50 tuber and running regressions and making slideshows. I guarantee you boob size is negatively correlated with viewership.
>>15633238Ayame bots and circles SC harder than twitch streamers...
omg the kicksGO AME GO
hey ENcucks, use the narrative that EN myth outfit reveals mogged JP6 outfit reveals
>>15633469Pekora shitted on Gura 2nd outfit - cope
>>15633604why?
>>15633662i came in their arse
>>15633475>Its time this place gets smartyeah, it's over...
>>15633313It was only 70 but still, that's something that happened.
This is my favorite part of the thread.
Numbers thread without ccv is just not the same. Susan give the numbers back.
>sub 20k peakThe absolute state. HoloJP is absolutely dead. Pakora killed hololive's reputation in Japan.
So I concluded that the cull is real based on the smtown free concert because it went from 980k to 880k in less than 20 minutes.
ironmouse 30k