/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1559302
management choice and maybe language barrier. Gura's competent in Japanese but, probably would be overwhelmed.

ENMA HATE

Its the opposite actually

Gura will never forget Pearl Harbor, nor will she ever forgive. Jap hate!

>>1559355
Management actually wants the EN girls to interact with the JP girls. Subaru said they consider knowing japanese a huge bonus for being able to talk to the JP senpais. Also, there are several JP girls who know english.

>>1559302
She sent a clip to congratulate Shion's birthday. She was also featured in Mariner's fishing skit.

She cant speak Japanese retards

>>1559563
This. I remember some JP girl (Aqua?) talking about how they would like to do EN collabs but the language barrier is too great and using a translator wouldn't be very fun.

>>1559302
Yeah, she hates jp. When she visited jp server, the first thing she did when she met Aqua was push her into a bush and kill her.

>>1559302
She's slowly being allowed out of her bubble. She'll collab with her senpais soon.

>>1559710
Aqua was also the first holo she ever watched, so her killing Aqua is symbolic of "I don't need you anymore"

>>1559754
"I'll let HoloEN decide your fate, Darth Gura"
"I AM HoloEN"

>>1559563
Ame collabed with two JP members just fine. You autistic Gura defenders need to realize that it's HER choice not to collab, the language barrier's an excuse for her retard ass not jumping out there and trying. (And it's not management either, every other girl has collabed with JPs and all of the IDs have as well.)

>>1559533
>She sent a clip to congratulate Shion's birthday.
In English. She recorded a birthday message to her JP senpai in English. That's the language hurdle we're talking about on Gura's side.

among us plz understand

>>1559604
Based , Aqua (or whoever)

>>1559604
Aqua played Apex off stream with Ame. Apparently she just spent the whole time asking her what time it was in America and asking what her favourite food was. Can’t really blame her for not wanting to do a collab due to the language barrier. Until Ame and gura learn more Japanese they’re just stuck in holoEN or doing awkward collabs with the JP girls who are trying to gain more EOP viewers.

>>1559302
Her own ego after surpassing the entire JP branch.

>>1559302
>Casually bullies your oshi into not collabing with HoloJP

>>1559984
Or one of the JP girls get more proficient in English. It'll be pretty amazing to see Noel and Gura finally collab, made possible because both put effort in bridging the language barrier.

>>1559984
Christ, instead of entertaining her, that retard Amelia chose to act like a retard and tarnish even more the EN reputation in HoloJP.

>>1559855
Enma is stopping Gura from collabs with the JPs specifically, not EN as a whole. She is doing this because she knows that Gura is too stoopid to handle an interaction with a person who speaks a different language.

HAACHAMA CHAMA CHAMA and Coco are fluent in english, yet Gura never approached them for anything.

>>1559512
>Gura was there for pearl habor
>She got smacked by a torpedo on its way to a ship
>later got smacked by a downed Japanese plane
>then smacked by a sinking ship

She blames Japan, but really she should have swam for deeper waters after that first torpedo hit her. Brain hasn't been right since.

>>1559523
huh, no kidding? Shows what I know.

>>1559844
>now I am the master.

>>1560087
Who's Enma?

>>1560124
Chammers...
To be fair, seems like Coco isn't allowed near any EN or ID at the moment.

>>1559512
Gura is 9000 years old and was actually the one who flew the bombers that nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

>>1559710
incredibly based.

>>1560158
>Doesn't know who ENMA is
Get out newfag

>>1560086
>Amelia chose to act like a retard
Aqua was the one who just talked about time differences anon. She doesn’t know much English.

>>1560158
I didn't know newfaggotry of this level was possible

>>1560124
Haachama literally messaged that fucking shark on stream asking to collab and she still didnt do it.

>>1559302
Gura is incredibly shy and has lots of social anxiety on top of not being able to speak Japanese. stop asking this question as though there's some grand conspiracy in the EN branch or she hates her senpais.
>>1559855
Ame is more outgoing and both were incredibly awkward with her senpais speaking in broken English

>>1560158
Ligma balls

>>1559855
Wow anon it’s almost like it’s GURA’S reason for not doing them

>>1560255
Source?

>>1560256
Pekora also has a lot of social anxiety and shyness and she still did a collab with Kiara.

>>1559302
She loves them too much and is intimidated by them/thinks her lack of JP language will be a burden.

It doesn't helps that she is #1 in subs and she probably feels she doesn't deserves it and that they will hate her for it. I understand her type of personality.

In the end she needs a JP that speaks EN well enough and one is banned from collabing and the other is pseudo-graduated so it's not looking good in that aspect

>>1560255
Yeah, Gura even agreed to the collab and suggested games and it still didn't happen.

>>1560429
Here’s some clips

Mashup bromie: https://youtu.be/BDJgh6qb89E
Guras response: https://youtu.be/nSQhO5VYm-g

>>1560086
Take your meds.

>>1559984
>Cover hires a bunch of EOPs to capture the EN market.
>DUDE THEY HAVE TO LEARN JP.
Yeah, I guess.

>>1560478
>that they will hate her for it.
I can guarantee that Pekora and her gang at least does except Senchou. Pekora was clearly going to the number 1 spot in Hololive untik Gura reached 2kk and that dream became impossible.

>>1560478
Who's banned from collabing?

>>1560721
Nousagi are numberfags, but Peko herself doesn't seems like much of a numberfag. She is indeed kind of egotistic but I don't think she cares much about this issue in particular.

>>1560455
Kiara speaks Japanese, is an extrovert, and the collab was in a setting Pekora was familiar with, the JP Minecraft server.

>>1559984
>trying to gain more EOP viewers.
They aren't, JP already has the EOP viewers, EN wouldn't have happened if they didn't already have appeal. I don't know why EN fans always seem to forget that hololive is a team and collabs are generally done because the girls want to do them

>>1560773
The shitpost dragon.
She had an Amogus collab just this weekend but it was members only and it featured just top holos and/or with strong fanbases.

>>1560158
HoloEN manager now lurk moar newfag

>>1560721
Meds.

>>1560794
And it still managed to be a complete disaster somehow.

>>1560794
And it was a mistake.
Meanwhile Moona is a complete autist and can barely communicate with Peko and it was a huge success.
There just need to be willingness between the parties to have fun even if they don't understand eachother much. If they have fun, the collab is successful even if they can only understand like 3 words out of 10 coming out of the other person's mouth.

>>1560350
Your oshi is a bitch and her reasons are stupid. Fucking AQUA of all people has made more of an effort to do anything with foreign branches despite the language barrier than the shark has.
>>1560889
This is the main reason there hasn't been Gura collabs with JP holos. She just doesn't want to that badly. Language barrier is not an actual reason as shown by Moona and Ame.

>>1560721
>Pekora cares about numbers.
Not even a little bit.

>>1560975
Why it had to be she out of all people to have the highest sub count in hololive? Why couldn't it be a less arrogant and more humble person instead?

>>1560811
You're not wrong, but this isn't a complete picture, either. Those views were going to clippers, not Hololive.

>>1561077
>Those views were going to clippers, not Hololive.
You could say the same about EN, a huge amount of clippers clip them and get millions of views. You could see EoPs in chats before EN debuted as well.

>>1560675
>Join a Japanese vtuber company
>Have the majority of the other members be Japanese
>Have people in your own English branch that can speak Japanese
>Have a big Japanese audience waiting for you
>Dont think you should bother learning Japanese
I can smell the burgers from here

>>1561120
It's not either/or with EN, though. The viewership more heavily overlaps.

>>1561056
>Not even a little bit
This is what Pekofags tell themselves before sleeping kek

>>1561141
>Be JP.
>Hire EOP.
This is the only relevant part. They made a choice to create the situation, and they were the only ones with the power to do so. It's on them.

>>1559302
I'm going to assume this is a bait shitpost but in case it isn't I'll bite anyways. I'm pretty sure she's just kind of scared. She came in a took the 1 mil, 2 mil, and will likely take the 3 mil trophy away from all the JP girls that had been going at it long before her and I wouldn't blame her a bit for being worried they might hate her. And besides this she obviously hasn't done her nihongo reps and would hardly be able to communicate with the majority of them.

>>1560811
>JP already has the EOP viewers
They have some yes, but they’ve seen from the HoloEN numbers that there are a lot more who would actually sit and watch their streams if they spoke a bit of English. There’s a reason why so many have been doing English lessons recently.

>JP doing, "Learn EN" streams.
>EN doing, "Learn JP" streams.
>None of them think this is an opportunity to collab.
Are they all retards?

>>1561233
Playing duolingo isn't english lessons, I can only think of two or three holos activly learning English. Again, why assume they do it for views when interacting with each other is part of their job and benefits everyone?

>>1561248
>Collab. They both fire up the same learning service (probably Duolingo, let's be real here).
>They start competing on score and correcting/laughing at their mispronunciations.
>Fun times all around.
I miss it and I've never seen it.

>>1561169
Yeah Cover created the situation, but it’s the girls who can fix it for themselves and their own benefit.

>>1561320
>Just learn an entire language and fix it.
How many years would that take, exactly, when they have other shit to be doing?

>>1561300
>Why are streamers trying to get views

>>1561300
>Again, why assume they do it for views
>when interacting with each other is part of their job and benefits everyone?
Do you often contradict yourself in the same sentence, anon?

>>1561300
>two or three holos activly learning English
Who? Marine, Haachama and Sora?

>>1561354
Quite a few years. Ignoring their weeb life pre hololive and the Japanese lessons they’ve both said they’ve taken before, you would think Ame and Gura would at least have learnt more than the 10 phrases they know in the 6 months they’ve been doing this.

>>1561436
They probably did. The issue is retaining it.

>>1561456
There's an easy way to retain japanese, you just have to suck my cock.

>>1561418
Ignoring Duolingo. Sora, Subaru, Mel, Haachama, Marine and Korone have all said they’ve been studying English.

>>1561205
I don't think taking the 2M was that of a big deal.
Taking 1M before all of the rest? Oof. She didn't even celebrate it. I bet she just wanted to hide her head in the sand and pretend it didn't happen.

>>1561062
How the hell is she arrogant? She just does her thing, has crippling autism, and the public eats it all. It's not even her fault and she tries to live a life as quiet as possible. She never boasts or has drama with anyone.
The only thing I agree with is that I think she would be the happiest with Ina's numbers. Slow enough to read chat and interact with it but with a healthy enough grow to be considered a success still.

>>1560171
SHAAKKU ANDU DETECUTIVUUUU

>>1561496
So... four inches of learning?

>>1561506
Holy shit, I thought Korone took the 1 million, that's rough. The right course of action right now though is act like she earned it instead of feeling ashamed.

>>1559984
>Apparently she just spent the whole time asking her what time it was in America and asking what her favourite food was
Jesus, such a autistic questions.

>>1561623
Surprisingly for Aqua the autism was actually caused by the language barrier and not herself. https://youtu.be/r1ChpvTGUNU

>>1559302

I blame the Among Us stream and I'm sticking with it. Gura's EOP fans acted like a bunch of niggers to the point of making a member of the collab upset and apologize. Gura herself probably knows how toxic her fans are and doesn't want the to harass her senpais.

>>1561765
>Gura's EOP fans acted like a bunch of niggers
How so?

>>1561765
This. For every single question about, "Why doesn't X do Y?" the answer is always, "the fans."

>>1560721
>>1560783
>>1561056
>>1561149
Pekora is one of the biggest numberfags in Hololive. Her browser history includes 5ch's youtube board and lots of numberfag websites.
https://files.catbox.moe/u065d9.mp4

>>1561609
Korone got to 1 million before Fubuki but they celebrated because they're friends amd they encouraged each other. Fubuki was kind enough to congratulate Gura because she understands that numberfags are cancer and that having a lot of subs and attention can be stressful

>>1561796
>Pekora is a 5chfag
Oh fuck, so the rumors of her actually being a nationalist might be true.

>>1561791

basically it goes like this my new friend

>Among us collab
>Gura gets killed a bunch and is showing her frustration on stream
>Still has fun and isn't actually mad
>Her fans take it as her being bullied and blame there not being good enough translation
>They complain so much it reaches Iofi who took it hard and posted pic related for not being a better job
>Gura has to make it clear she didn't feel like she was being bullied ect
>We are now here

>>1559861
Shion also asked Gura to do it beforehand.I think Gura's anxiety is at max when she can't understand someone speaking and she's afraid she'll look bad or boring. She's a very anxious person.

>>1559302
Hi anon.

IOFI HATE

>>1561987
no
die

>>1560170
>EN or ID at the moment.
EN, yes but she has played Minecraft with Moona a few times in the past couple weeks. Mangement is corralling her away from EN and it fucking sucks. I'm sure they talk on Discord but can't bring up anything on stream.

If someone wanted to, they could possibly trick Calli into talking about Coco via an akasupa.

>>1561765
>>1561791
>>1561792
Iofi after the among us collab saw a chink comment criticizing her for not translating and she handled it in the most professional way possible. By pinning the comment and deleting her previous tweet saying she was going to be the dedicated translator for the collab. She then went on to retweet more chink criticism on twitter before her manager knocked some sense into her. Gura's fans were not harassing her, it was a narrative made up and spread by hlg. Go do your archive reps.

>>1561991
Fuck off, Risu. If Iofi hadn't been such a bitch Gura and management wouldn't be this scared of letting her collab with her senpais

>>1561915
>>1562052

>>1561915
Who's lofi, my 'old friend'? One of those people who translate on the chats?

>>1562052
>some chinese guy--
Stopped reading.

>>1559855
The Ame JP collabs were cringey and awkward. Lots of silence with Ame just sitting there like a tard. No thanks

>>1562099
it was literally a lone chinese or taiwanese guy.

>>1561792
Especially since it's well known that chumbuds are the worst EN fanbase.

>>1562052
>>1562081

This doesn't change Gura's fans acting like niggers claiming bullying ect.

>>1562085

A member of Hololive Indonesia

>>1562052
>hey guys why-
>THE CHINESE
Why are cocofags like this

>>1562114
>taiwanese
atatatattatatatatta, don't say that word here, it's chinese taipei

>>1559355
What makes you think she’s competent in Japanese?

>>1562194
Her lack of an accent.

>>1562299
gura has an accent

>>1562299
Just because she can mimic sounds doesn’t mean she understands it

>>1562359
It's much weaker than most americans.

>>1562401
Most Americans can barely speak English, that’s not an accomplishment.

>>1562493
Good thing that you know how dumb you and your people are, american.

>>1562531
>It's blüdy yank woostin day, innit?!

>>1559302
>barely acknowledge their existences at all
and this is how you know this is a cheap bait thread

>>1562133
keep ignoring the evidence you retarded anti

>>1562531
Call me an American again and I’ll start posting KFP false flags in your oshis thread.

>>1560478
>It doesn't helps that she is #1 in subs and she probably feels she doesn't deserves it and that they will hate her for it. I understand her type of personality.
aaah the schizos favourite narrative

>>1561248
Yes.

>>1560721
>I can guarantee
sure you can son, sure you can

>>1562685
>Everything I don't like is bait
You're not gonna go far in life.

>>1562401
most americans have experience changing their accent from regional specific to generic american, but gura also does voice acting and singing, so she'd have even more control.

>>1562855
Gura has been very outspoken about loving some of the japanese chuubas, and watched a lot of Aqua . The only other HoloEN I can think of who talked about it as much is Kiara. I wouldn't call it bait; It is plausible but it's demonstrably incorrect.

>Chad Ame with another language barrier collab
Teamates cant stop winning. I guess it’s true that it’s lonely at the top.

>>1563331
>Apex

I'm so sorry...

>>1560350
kek

>>1563375
*chu*

>>1564262
chu

>>1562168
Taiwan, numba 1.
West Taiwan, numba 8.

>>1563331
>6am EDT
Ame is playing during real gamer hours.

How come these kinds of dumb anti threads are always made by people who use english as a second language?

Seem like quite a coincidence.

>>1571969
What's wrong with the post?

>>1560255
Whassup bromie

they're probably waiting for Nintendo to drop SmashCart 51 before they can collab

>>1572135


You ever notice how Aqua basically never collaborates with anyone ever?

She must hate her coworkers more than a twitter tranny hates strait white men.

>>1559302
She's saving herself for Noel

>>1573343
What happened to Shion?

>>1580797
What do you mean?

Her and Gura don't get along. It's all bullshit. Here's what happened, there was a big new years party, before actual new years, all the Holos we're flowed in, it was supposed to be a big celebration thing, because of all the succes that year. Gura got drunk and she git a little handsy with a guy there, they ended up going to a love hotel, turns out that guy was Shion's fiance, they had been some problems in the relationship they were working at, but then Gura came in all drunk and fucked Shions to be husband. Next morning she went to confront them, slapped Gura in the face, called her a whore and broke up with her fiance on the spot and ran away, the fiance called Gura a whore too and blamed her for breaking up his yet to be marriage. She went back to the room and got drunk again and cried. That video is just management trying to create a fake narrative to make sure fans think they are ok with each other. Gura isn't doing great because after that all the jp holos treated her differently, one of them even went up to her and told her "dont send me collab invites, i don't wanna collab with prostitutes", this made Gura cry again. She feels terrible about it but its not like she can take it back. It's also why you wont see much Gura/Jp collabs. The EN holos are trying to just not talk about it but its awkward as fuck. Shion is still heartbroken about it, and some of the JP holos have become good friends and a shoulder to cry on over this whole mess. In the Jp, in private convos they don't even say gura anymore, they just "shark whore". Anyway that's what i heard. Lots of drama.

>>1580797
Anon Shion never streams

>>1586906
Good story anon, i'd actually believe it

>>1562855
>everything I don't like never happened
The irony

>>1560077
Good. As expected of the Pride of HoloLive!

>>1580797
Who's Shion?

>>1560721
>Pekora was clearly going to the number 1 spot in Hololive

>>1588438
Pekora's growth is bigger than Korone's.

>>1559302
is Noel not JP?

>>1589627
When did they collab?

>>1559302
I don't have a schizomeds.jpg large enough for this one so I'm not even going to bother.

>>1561550
When erect, perhaps.

>>1560077
Based. Also props to Risu and Ame for cooperating with the bullying

>>1559302
She hates Kiara in particular. Gura is pure.

>>1590760
Oh shit, is that why they never do collabs with just the two of them?

>>1562299
She's worse than me, and I'm pretty shit. The main problem is that she (just like me) doesn't know how to use the language. At best she could kinda understand what the other person is saying, but would struggle to form any sort of response.

>>1560721
did usagis forget korone exists?
she was within hours of being top as gura passed @.@
korone would bully shork for fun either way though, it sexually arouses her.

>>1559302
japanese fan dont give a fuck about her at all. so theres practically no demand.

idk why en fans are so obsessed with en and jp collabs but i dont think its necessary. if anything both should be totally separated.

>>1594714
Lol Japan is obsessed with Gura
https://twitter.com/foxcoer/status/1348119911227248641?s=19

>>1594714
how come the gura jp sub clips have so many views/comments, then.

>>1595949
Sources?

>>1595965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHo9cGFfFNw

>>1596100
there are so many 500k clips. the one about lamy and botan i was watching now is 600k despite being not special.

that said, nobody really wants her colllab. she cant speak japanese and isnt really interested in japan or jp vtubers. it wouldnt be fun.

>>1596100
Stupid clipfagging JOPs. They will never know the REAL Gura. Why can't they just learn English?

>>1597215
lol cute.

but gotta try harder. you look too awkward

>>1594714
You have no idea lol

>>1596795
kek

>>1559302

>>1559302
Because she is one of those people who won't go too any party alone. Even when there are people she knows.