/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>15583621
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

Looking at the other OP... yeah okay this one

I'd take this one please

This one

Welp, so much for the zhang spam...

Other thread OP is pure cringe.
Imagine celebrating something as petty as that when holo numbers are so disappointing today.

Your number's wish for this year, anons? What is it? Roa returning, myth 3D, another graduation?

This one was first anyways, so there's really no contest when both are spelled correctly.

>>15583703
zhang spam?

So Dec is in the books. How does January look? Any major events form either side? Any chance Niji could win a month?

The problem is that Holo3D ARE scripted and “safe”.
I know no one here watches the sharts but their 3D are a lot more entertaining than HoloJP.

So nijisanji got another Gold back to back with the JP cull, holofags still riding that cope train

Oh thanks jannies for removing that monstrocity
Not a great deal to talk about right now until the monthly and annual numbers start rolling in

>>15583719
Myth 3D followed nu Myth 3D concert with guest appearances from JP in a good sized venue (5k seems about right)

>>15583731
Mahjong tourney

>>15583751
waiting for the 2021 medal report statistics

>>15583746
Even the most ardent holofag knew NJU would win today, I'm just surprised by how much

>>15583731
Niji has 7 events in Jan IIRC.

>>15583738
Yea.
The problem right now, and one they NEED to address sooner or later, is that they're playing it too safe on average. Between getting Ganked by Susan, Capcom and then China, it makes a company paranoid. I get it, but they could stand to loosen things up a bit.

>>15583772
I've only started medal stats for Q4 starting from 1st October. Graph Anon should have the full list, but all records is gonna be Coco's anyway.

This new year program is just too japanese in flavor. Reminds me of the jp variety shows i watch when i was young. People not interested in jp culture won't watch this. No wonder you hardly see any eops in chat. They need to do more global friendly programs to appeal to the global fanbases.

>>15583738
unfit, ill trained, motion sickness prone women, prease andastand

>post new year streams
>only one above 10k is kuzuha
>cant break 20k after the huge concert

lets see how it goes tomorrow i will go to sleep for now

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>>15583796
Same.
I forgot to account that they basically made it a new-years eve celebration by moving it to the 31st, that boosted it quite a bit and beside Hololive's reather tepid NYE program, kinda took all the tourists.

>>15583796
I mean, it's a free music festival and Hololive is doing a variety show. In terms of hype and entertainment, the music festival outclasses any other.

JWU, anything interesting other than cope and seethe?

>>15583730
Hololive main is being spammed now because Fubuki lives rent-free in their heads.

>>15583797
so what are the numbers for mahjong usually

The numbers are still weird. Kuzuha can't break 17k on a zatsu and has way more likes than normal for that to be the case (8.8k).

>>15583760
This makes me think.
If MYTH had a concert or paid live, where to do it? Japa or USA?

So if you are Yagoo, what should you do to get back Holo's lost viewers anons?

Reminder that Pakora fucked Jun on Christmas Eve solely to turn off enough viewers that Niggersanji would fall 39 people short of her outfit reveal

>>15583738
Coco was so important for making their 3Ds entertaining.
I dream that one day we'll get kino shit like Nijis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVFK7nLtv_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl28jnv7dJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iOuo4AnSDk

The best Holo3D skit we've ever gotten is Marine's Birthday 3D drama.

>>15583854
Not too much cope and seethe
but I guess there's some slippage
NJU failed to beat pekora outfit by just mere 39 views

>>15583908
8D shogi

>>15583738
kek, the gud niji 3D meme is back

lmao gura gonna stream over the karaoke relay till her turn comes up! Rip karaoke number

>>15583854
>pakora retard is a chink
>niji won gold and silver and hololive got bronze
>influx of new shitposters are most likely SEA women brought to you by niji male gen
other than that, it's the usual bait all around

>>15583817
>I've only started medal stats for Q4 starting from 1st October.
I can only go as far back as where Mado started, meaning 2021-07-18

>>15583828
>They need to do more global friendly programs to appeal to the global fanbases.
They could have easily hosted a 24-hour NY countdown event for all their fans and drove engagement fairly high with the good will that they current share. And then hold their particular NY day stuff during JP primetime.

>>15583854
It slip

>>15583911
Matsuri and Marine would do the slime sumo but guessing it was never approved.

And yeah, Coco's 3Ds are legendary.

>NoiR starts singing
>Numbers go up
wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSM0mrc6Nfs

>>15583926
Yea, finding out info that seems obvious in hindsight is enlightening as to why our threads have been even MORE shit as of late.

>>15583854
Niji broke their record with a large margin (went from 120k last year to 186k), showing that VTubers - or at least Niji - grew quite a lot in JP. The fact that most of those viewers didn't stay for other Niji streams indicated that a lot of normal Japanese (non-otaku) are watching VTuber / Niji now
Holo, on the other hand, lost 30k viewers. I'm not sure what it means in the long term, but that seems to be a recline for now

>>15583828
>People not interested in jp culture won't watch this.
People **very interested** in jp culture won't either.
Japanese variety show is TOO insular and filled with in jokes and local culture.

>>15583973
anon, you're the only one here keeping track of her.

Good for you, support your 2 views.

>>15583911
Hell, even Holostars 3D is more interesting than Hololive

>>15584001
Swing and a miss. Well, maybe next year.

>>15583828
This is also why their version of lever gacha fails. It’s boring and every foreigner who moves to Japan fucking hates Japanese variety tv shows.

>>15583914
>>15583926
>>15583962
Thanks anon.
Well, still within expectation then, i hope graph anon comeback soon ...

>>15583738
Let's be real, all 3D streams are garbage. Vtubers became popular because people liked their voices, designs or personalities. Nobody really gives a shit about watching some PS2 looking ass character models moving around.

>>15583986
While I do agree the viewer base has grown, I think its more that otaku culture is less intense but also expansive nowadays.
Like I know a lot of people play FGO in Japan but you wouldn't call them otakus 20 years ago.
All my casual otaku friends were watching Kohaku instead last night, happily tweeting about Evangelion.

Hololive lost 30k because they put zero effort.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Is this normal? I'm starting to believe in the cull too. Kuzuha never gets this many likes in relation to his viewers.

>>15583986
>hose viewers didn't stay for other Niji streams
that is bad tough

>>15584058
Literally couldn't be more wrong when 3D streams do the best for all vtubers.

>>15584013
She's in top 50 streams on BiliBili and got merch with help of Animate

Kanae has gotten back ahead of Lamy again, but can he hold it for long? Or will he end up slowing down so much that he'll get ran over and eaten by the Nijisanji Official Channel, just like the EN Nijis have been by the Nijisanji English Official Channel?

>>15584039
>It’s boring and every foreigner who moves to Japan fucking hates Japanese variety tv shows.
Westies don't watch their own daytime variety shows either. Most just put it on for background noise when there's nothing to watch.

Late night shows though...

>>15584088
read what the anon said, they watch it for the vtuber, not for the shitty 3D

>>15584013
Not true, I've also been watching. Viewership hovers between 60-80, but likes have been growing organically and are at 219 now. With a stream this small, I guess it's possible people drop by to listen a little and leave a like out of sympathy for 2views, but I kind of wonder about the view cull.

Gawr Goopa variety endurance stream we will see her true number power level.

Baits aside, things went as expected for anyone with a normal functioning brain, which you should have to be a numberfag.
Hololive is doing a type of program that wont be as popular as Niji's live, as simple as.
Hololive has more dedicated fans, niji has more casual viewers.

>>15584078
What is his usual likes number?

>>15583986
I expect it would break their own record with that line up and their event number trend says they would always get good number, but very impressive number nonetheless. I kneel to niji event ..

>>15584078
the lieks are not normal and is indeed lower than most talks but i would swait a few days yet.

>>15583986
>>15583854
If we're being cynical and still going with the "cull is real" theory, considering how ALL other streams today performed outside of the Niji concert.

The Niji concert could have been an easy 250k - 300k given the tweets and SC it got and how much the other Niji streamers have fallen in CCV (Toya, Kuzuha and Kanae included)

But we'll never know for sure given how much bigger numbers the 2021 one got compared to Niji 2020 fes and their New Year's events.
Since there were 2 big streams today, there isn't really a comparable frame of reference.

>>15583858
They died really quickly though, it feels like it was litereally just 2 dudes

>>15584152
>Cover are retarded and incompetent
Good that we've established that yet again

>>15584152
>Hololive is doing a type of program that wont be as popular as Niji's live, as simple as.
I don't think people actually expected Holo NY to beat NJU, but peaking 30k viewers lower and generally having bad viewership for most of the stream is bad.

>>15584154
about 2-3k even at 25k watching.

>>15583986
>indicated that a lot of normal Japanese (non-otaku) are watching VTuber / Niji now
Not VTubers, Nijisanji specifically.

It is becoming a sort of ritual, it seems, like watching horse races

>>15584179
NJU got at least 600k, easy, not even considering tabs out and watamage

>>15584154
aroun 5-7k

>>15583854
39late

>>15584088
That's because they're considered events, but nobody in their right mind would exchange comfy Live2D streams for 3D ones on a daily basis.

did a /pol/ fag migrate and settle here or something? last few days have had multiple attempts to put trannyshit on the OP

>>15584217
It was said in the last thread but it feels like Hololive were trying to get the bottom feeders more exposure.
Also most of the clips they showed were just…bad. Fucking Iofi picked her own costume reveal to represent the best ID clip.

>>15584085
I mean, these threads were a perfect example of Niji tourist mentally (seeing as many of us were watching NJU)

>Kino 3D event, very impressive how large in scale and smooth everything went, and I had a good time
>Time to never watch any of these Nijis' streams until the next time to put on a kino big event like this one

>>15584277
>Fucking Iofi picked her own costume reveal to represent the best ID clip
Seriously? Maybe I do have to watch that stream.

>>15584151
>endurance
This is a normal minecraft stream length for her.

>>15584275
Anon, we've ALWAYS had /pol/ fags in /#/. They just usually don't make the OPs, but one has taken some twisted joy in throwing their garbage into the OP as of late.

>>15583621
How come she suddenly got a lot of subs at once but Touya didn't last time?

>>15584151
EN primetime is a total clusterfuck today, Gura will overlap Ame and Mori at the same time.

>>15584277
>Fucking Iofi picked her own costume reveal to represent the best ID clip.
It's funny that I expected Kiara who will do that

>>15584217
>30k viewers lower
id wait to check vod views after processing instead of an always untrustworthy ccv

>>15584277
>Fucking Iofi picked her own costume reveal to represent the best ID clip.
It got Watame's seal of approval

>>15583911
It'd probably benefit them to utilize Watame more in 3D. She has the movements and energy for it if only they were less worried about her doing things like wedging herself between Haachama and Coco's tits.

>>15584217
Everyone picked their own clips anon.

>>15584347
Tourists realized they didn't sub her and subbed. But they are not going to stick around at all

>>15584151
Is she making an album?
Launching a clothes brand?
Buying out Twitch to control the western streaming market?
Or is it all just for the MV?

That's a lot of buildup or the announcement on her channel.

>>15584277
>Fucking Iofi picked her own costume reveal to represent the best ID clip.
That was so bad, but my pick for worst clip is either someone picking Sora/Azki's dying Only My Railgun performance that sounded like shit or Mel picking a minecraft clip of herself instead of the numerous kino moments in her Halloween live.
Kiara surprisingly had great choices.

>>15584329
It was okay but her strength lies in drawing zatsudans desu

>>15584355
I did too but she went with Myth unity instead.

>>15584363
Nah.
They had a bunch of lower-viewer holomem hosting, Pekora did her bit and ran home to get her face kicked in by Sans until she finally beat him, and the only other 'high tier' holomem that appeared was Marine, towards the end of the skits and everything.
Momentum poor, superior event in NJU, content that was meh. the -30k was deserved off of the assorted choices made.

>>15584347
NJU unironically attract more tourists than Marika and Marika tournament is decentralized while NJU centralized in one channel

>>15584217
honestly I think a special event like this niji live was is in another league compared to a glorified zatsudan which is holo NY program, so it doesn't seem as bad in viewership, but in planification about the program itself lol

>>15584363
Should do a Holocope list.

>>15584217
Happens when you recycle an unpopular set of programs with unpopular members

https://youtu.be/tLrnWxXsyho
Ending credit : 260K ccv
mainstream band

>>15583898
Judging by the NYE chat it just seems like EOPs/ESLs aren't watching JP as much as they were last year. Would be nice to see the chat statistic comparison.

>>15584398
Not the MV, Kiara said it was for HoloEN as a whole, so we'll see what it is.

>>15584151
Wait why is she gonna overlap with all EN members?

>>15584078
Yeah, that's exactly the kind of shit I've witnessed in some HoloJP streams in the past few days.

>>15584410
Kiara for all her faults is a genuine Hololive fan. She's not a great entertainer but she is the kind of person who would fit in well here with us trash

>>15584457
I also have this on my recommendation what the fuck

>>15583888
flying to Japan obviously

>>15584457
Not a vtuber and Mayday is literally one of the biggest bands in China/Taiwan.
They're like Coldplay-level big in those places.

>>15584484
Google knows you're a numberfag

>>15584469
Kiara told her it was ok to do it and she wanted to get some things done at the same time, or maybe her numberfag is awakening.

>>15584429
They aren't gonna do an all member's music festival when they have Holofest

>>15584382
Kiara actually picked a group clip that had Ina as the focus.

I'm looking at the current numbers and they all seem pretty normal. Maybe the cull got fixed?

Do we have a holocope and nijicope list?

>>15584426
do you really take your own shitty opinions this seriously or are you just shitposting?

>>15584398
I like how we're all on the same page about when Gura actually puts effort in it means she has something to shill

>>15584363
We're comparing it with last year btw, not NJU.
The VOD views will not be pretty for this stream compared to last year because all indicators show this stream flopped.
>20k less likes than last years stream
>30k lower average CCV and 30k lower peak
>Much lower tweet numbers

>>15583888
I know that the girls would pick Japan >>15584496 but that is the most absolutely retarded choice in all of this. The most logical one would be to host it in USA, either NY, LA or (preferably) Vegas on one of their lower traffic weekends.

>>15584525
i wouldnt say so, seems all the streams are ahrd stalling at some point unable to growth past a certain point.

>>15584469
Little shark is going to assert her dominance, why else?
Joking asides, EN's relay is 10 hours long. Did you expect them to take the day off until their turn or something?

>>15584549
Anon, just for a second, take off the blinders and loyalty to either company.
Would you rather watch people watching mediocre clips and talking, or watch what was a pretty solid music program with a host of talents? I mean, the Holo event was 'fine', but its certainly not beating out NJU for tourists. The fact that the members present weren't a really big draw for numbers outside of Pekora, Suisei and Marine, well...

>>15584549
NTA, but he's right.
I don't know who could've watched both the HoloNY stream and NJU side by side and thought the former was the better stream.
It wasn't even close and I'm a holofan that never watches Nijis. I was only watching for the manjisanji memes.

>>15584100
I remember graph anon posting that she had an increase in viewership during November, did we ever figure out the cause?

>>15584621
If you're a weeb, you go to weebland simple. Also, it's bragging rights to tell to your friends that you're flying overseas for a job. That's for me I guess, all my friends bragged to me how they went somewhere.

>>15584610
First two is probably in part due to EOPs shifting away from JP. What were the tweet numbers for last year?

>>15584668
Of course 3D concert is better than variety show, there is no doubt for that. People here already said from yesterday that Niji will take the gold for today. It's obvious.

>>15584739
Cope, the numbers were lower than last year while niji numbers went up. Hololive's popularity is fading.

>>15584549
Holo's was typical JP's End of Year variety show. It's not bad per se, but the thing with variety show is that, well, unless their humors match yours or you are a big fan of them, you aren't going to be interested. Niji's was a big concert and music has global appeal. It's easy to see which one is superior.

>>15584610
60k/85k avg ccg x 2.5M = 1.77M views. Thats how much this nye should get months later, if the ccvs were to be trusted.
However, it has 2 hours left, a lot of dammed views processing to do + late vod watchers, and its already at 1.54M.
But I bet you wont be here tomorrow to hear from me again for the final views numbers lol.

Star VTuber double kills Fuwa and Kaede, and another spic enters the top 100.
Just outside of the top 100, Rindou and Koyori are approaching, but it's not clear for how long Rindou will keep her new momentum before she settles back down, while Koyori will take some time to reach there with her current pace.

This is definitely not normal. NJU (the one that only hit 166k) beat Koshien's VOD views already as well. The actual number could've been much higher.

>>15584507
What does that video have to do with numberfags?

>>15584792
Him, kanae and Fuwa are just farming SCs. Don't mind them.

>>15584779
We'll see.

>>15584792
Damn it passed 3 mil already?

>>15584791
Can we petition the site in some way to get all these random ass spic "vtubers" removed so they stop polluting the list? Or at least add a filter for them so we can see the real top 100 and such.

1M+ VODs up to this year

>Gura has more than double the 1M+ streams as second place (Pekora) and has the highest total followed very closely by Marine
>Suisei has almost double the 1M+ songs as second place (Mori) and also has the record for 10M+ songs
>Marine's shorts farm views like crazy and nobody else comes even close to her in this category
>Overall JP3 has the most 1M+ VODs followed by EN1
>Choco technically has a 1M+ VOD but it's on her sub channel and i'm only counting main channels here, so no music topic channels either

If I'm not mistaken, Nijis sang a lot of copyrighted songs. Don't they get a cut out from all the earnings from the stream, or are they just gonna pay the base cut asked from JASRAC or nextone?

>>15584792
Stop coping holobronies. End of Year = higher views for lower CCV (since people switch on and off the streams while dealing with real life obligations). There is nothing abnormal about it.

>>15584792
>NJU (the one that only hit 166k) beat Koshien's VOD views already as well.
It's at 2.1 mil for me, so not yet. (Koshien finals was 3 mil)
Both of these VODs are going straight to 4 mil+ within a week tho because they're very re-watchable (Nijifans don't have many 3D lives to watch performances from)

>>15584920

>>15584920
I’m disappointed that Cover didn’t go harder with making new songs like they did for Bloom.

>>15584920
This is the same case for every Holo 3D live so I guess the same applies for those streams too.

>>15584792
last year's NJU also beats koshien with 3.8M views, despite much lower ccv numbers. That doesn't seem to say a lot.

>>15584948
>Holos
>Does 3D lives for all their JP members on their birthdays or anniversaries throughout the year

>Nijis
>Does them too, but only for selected livers. They'll do a large concert event at the end of the year.

Ah yeah holoX outfit coming. Why no one talking about that?

>>15585031
Today's numbers are too disappointing so they'll probably be disappointing too.

>>15585031
Talked in past threads already. Niji wins yesterday, Holo wins today. Simple. Tomorrow, Niji wins again with Mahjong or Poker I dont remmber.

This should put her past the $100k mark for Dec going by Playboard tallies.

>>15584792
koshien vod views = 2.6M
NJU first part views = 2.1M currently
anon?

>>15585031
We'll see how they do, but given how anemic Hololive numbers have been these past few days, who the fuck knows how they'll do.

>>15585031
Do you really think they'll pass 60k after today's terrible holo performance?

>>15585031
Polka tier number

>>15584791
likely will just disappear in few weeks.
Fuwa has ten times the views, the tourists or bots on star is embarassing

>>15585083
My bad, I confused it with the 2020 one. That one is hardstuck at 1.5m, but it peaked higher than NJU as well, 193k.

>>15584690
It is also something of a bad optics scenario though. You pick having concert in Japan over USA implies that the western audience doesn't matter (which may not at least to Cover execs). There's very few people that would go through the process of traveling to Japan just for a concert, whereas, domestic (or even regional) travel to any of the event hubs in the US is fairly cheap by comparison even for just a weekend.

>>15585057
werent the latest mahjong collabs and poker really underwhelming?

>>15585031
Holofags are cowering after seeing today's numbers and the confirmation of Holo's recline

so many wrong numbers being posted on this thread right now, I think that some people need to go to sleep

>>15585031
is a certain gold not much to talk about.

holoNY currently at 1.6M to 1.7M views
anyone has last year's end of stream numbers?

>>15585195
I mean maybe recline in interest in a given moment but across all time zones and demographics holo views dumpster niji, the cope won't clean the top 20 scoreboard of holo dominance.

>>15585206
That would be for the best of everyone involved.

>>15585181
Fire Omega for not doing shit with EN.
The only thing he has ever tried to organize was a fucking FF14 trend in HoloEN but then they got Pokémon perms right as it started.

>>15585221
No idea where it was at when it ended, but it's at 2.5 mil now.
https://youtu.be/CBTwb8jqJM8

>>15584895
Video-uploading VTubers still count, though. That's how they started out, and there's still quite a few non-streaming VTubers out there right now.

>>15585191
Underwhelming training streams =/= underwhelming tournaments streams.
Splatoon and MK both had decent training streams, but the numbers this year blew last years' out of the water.
Poker will flop, but Mahjong is guaranteed 100k+.

>>15585277
yeah but spics dont count as a full person, 1 spic sub = 0.5 SEA subs = 0.1 western or jap sub

>>15585347
Will Sio come back from the dead to play Mahjong one more time?

>>15585277
Half of them don't even have live2D and some stream more with facecam than avatar. It only happens with the spic ones too, there's some bullshit going on and I don't get why this japanese site is adding so many, maybe it's because they don't bother checking the actual content because it's spic.

>>15585181
Just do one in japan and one in usa.

>>15585131
She'll probably stay up. A channel getting even just 1k per day is enough since a lot of the channels outside of the top 50 take days to even get 1k.

>>15585277
I would say any channel that ever uses a face cam doesn't count.

>my dick
12 inches
>your dick
3 inches
Uhhhh bros? Wtf is going on with these numbers?

>>15585362
>SEA above spic
Nice try seanigger.

>>15585420
Happens always when niji wins a day, even if it was obvious from the start

Can we numberfag how many schizos in this thread are zhangs?

>>15584179
Doesnt work that way faggot - we compare everyone else to the top performer i.e. Niji
And it shows that all your Holowhores have reclined and are irrelevant

>>15585232
That's admittedly true, but reclining right at the beginning of the year is a bad sign, though

>>15585465
Wins what, the SEAnig numbers award? Will anybody be giving a speech for this prestigious award?

>>15585484
Probably all of them (1)

>>15585401
>>15585416
The ones listed on userlocal use Live2D or 3D, though.

>>15585436
the chinks have given SEAmonkeys some money, just look at the njii homos
spics are worthless

>>15585031
Seeing the numbers from a year ago, if they don't break 100k, the cull exists

>>15585582
No chink or SeaMonkey will ever come close to Queen Nimu's 50k record, seethe

>>15584766
You should try saying that after Nijis stop losing the gold in the majority of days and generally having fuck-all in the top 10.

>>15585646
Or maybe holoJP is just reclining

>the cull is real
NJU peaked much higher than Koshien, Pekora and Gura's outfit
>the cull isn't real
Hololive reclined as a whole.

Choose carefully holobros.

>>15585416
Even her?

>>15585656
Daily golds are irelevant

>>15585656
Niji's more popular than ever as proven by the big events, meanwhile Holo daily streams keep reclining

>>15585646
Or they shouldn’t have scheduled right as Calli / Ame / Gura are singing and the West is shit-faced.

>>15585668
I choose whatever make numbers go higher, baitchama.

>>15585668
>free concert because Niji can't afford a venue meanwhile Hololive has an Expo
Hololive decline amirite?

>>15585685
Facecam, not a vtuber

>>15585685
Her career as coco makes at the very least an honorary vtuber even if her new channel isn't pure.

>>15585738
>he doesn't know about Nijifes
holobrony, please you're making me die of laughter

>>15585743
I agree, 30 years after the girls retire I will still call them vtubers

>>15585668
>the cull is real
>the cull isn't real
The ratios for comparison would be the same either way. Who gives a shit?

>>15585701
>>15585708
Holy cope. Another one for the list

>>15585738
Nobody will be paying to see holowhores LOL

>>15585701
>>15585708
>Loses year gold, most monthly golds, most daily golds, can barely get talents into the top 10 daily ccv and yet their hearts are still full of cope.

>>15585708
Niji has only one more vtuber in the top 20 then random indies with 2view companies.

>>15585854
Seethe, hololive is as death as coco

Honestly, Hololive just become worse. The number say it all. Nijisanji maybe lower in regular stream but they can held a big event better. I cant remember any Hololive event this year can reach 100k. Hololive manager should think about what they gonna do before fired Coco. At this rate i dont think Holocart can has better number than Nijisanji.

>>15584469
She’s starting near the tail end of Bae’s stream, so Kiara through Fauna don’t get that overlap.

https://www.twitch.tv/mogra
>3 HoloEN songs so far
>0 Niji

>>15585854
They also lost in sponsors and C99. I guess this NYE stream can give them Nijicope for a year.

>>15585842
>Won't pay
>Top 20 total SCs 17 Holos, 3 Niji.
hahahahaha

>>15585933
>>15585946
the chinks is in a full force today huh?

Bros did you see the newest numbers? Big big numbers, some smaller numbers too. Did anybody hear Elmo's number of the day btw? I missed it.

>NY countdown stream reclined
>NJU inclined
Cope however you want, numbers don't lie.

>>15585946
Even before the supposed cull its expected to not beat Niji at all, Holos simply do not attract massive tourists like how Niji does
What are you on

holy ESLness, chinabros!

>>15585933
>as death as coco
I'll assume you're the same ESL retard that has been shitting in themselves in these threads for hours.

JFC Chloe's New Year outfit stream is already at 211,104 yen in SC with 12 hours to go till it starts

>>15586022
120k last year vs 90k this year, hololive is just getting worse no matter how you look at it

>>15585946
>ESL again
Of course. Why is it always the ESLs?

>>15585995
>the chinks is
Holofag is SEAnig, what a surprise.

>>15586047
>JP6 + Nenechi
Imagine the SCs for that day

>>15586047
It's doubling as her membership opening stream.

>>15586047
Are her gachis oil barons with endless pockets or what? How does any fanbase have a quarter of a million dollars to throw at any vtuber? Especially considering only about 6k max are actually watching her streams

>>15586078
Anon, it's ESL hours. Of course it's always the ESL that will be the shit flinging monkey.

>>15586079
Better than being a souless chinks at least

>>15586111
botted SCs

>>15586058
I meant Marikart but okay
Still you don't conclude a decline over a short amount of time. It has barely been a week..

>>15586047
somebody stop that orca!

>>15584791
Niji_ESP when?
Holo_ESP when?

>They slipped every time
hahahahahaha

>>15586092
Really? Jesas, this fucking Orca.

>>15586146
But muh cull. The views were at least twice as high, right holosisters?

>>15586147
https://twitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1476949332972949512
>そして遂にアレが解禁に!?
Yep

>>15586111
>Especially considering only about 6k max are actually watching her streams
It's almost as if... I don't know... viewers are not counted for some reason.

>>15586146
>Whole company concert
>Still can't beat one rabbit
Kek

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuLZlZ18APQ

repeat after me, 39 views

>>15585972
I saw barely any Niji c99 stuff on the tags. I know it was there but did they really lose that many tables?

>>15586092
This is a relay right? That means she will also get some tourist SCs. Is she going for a new record?

>>15586125
Most of her streams are like this anonchama. Although this one in particular might be a little higher since the frame is up earlier

>>15586196
the DLSite yab is that bad

>>15586047
>>15586202

>>15586177
>Delaying membership until an event that will guarantee 50k minimum viewers and thousands more impulse memberships
Orca I kneel. You're too strong.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>187,119: Rindou
>166,651: Rindou
>99,172: hololive
>26,208: Pekora
>20,716: Pekora
>19,720: Toya
>19,393: Nijisanji
>17,144: Kuzuha
>14,819: Fubuki
>12,185: Aqua
>12,012: Iroha
>11,380: Amelia
>10,715: Fuwa

Also final tally of the year

>>15586196
30-40 Niji groups dropped out after the DLSite thing, Holo gained around 20

>>15586142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YNQ6yQg9hI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8BR2gbbGpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2y8b51GhMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-FT9qov8V0

>>15586179
no way, someone would have said something on these threads if so

>>15586142
Hopefully never. The content most of these are getting popular off of makes vshojo look like high-brow entertainment. They're a bunch of drama farming trash and you know where some of their cultivated fanbase would end up.

>>15586196
No one cares about comiket anymore, it's all about brand-specific conventions and nijifes is a far better choice for niji fanartists to ply their goods

>>15586244
Thanks you for all the tallys. Happy new year mate.

>>15586292
Ah, another one for the list

>>15586172
Pick which you want if it makes you happy, anon. We're fine with either.

>>15586244
It's nice to see Pekora still mogs the shit out of niji trash
Even with the culling, queen is always the queen

>>15586146
I like how holobronies suddenly forgot about their cull myth.

>>15586292
>No one cares about comiket anymore

now thats gotta be the most pathetic nijicope ive ever heard

>>15586338
>Pekora only losing to major event collabs
Pekozhang on suicide watch

>>15586280
Did you watch them? From what I've seen, it's mostly just gaming videos/meme reviews, with reaction images/videos/sounds inserted everywhere.

>>15586146
One more funny thing is their vods got copyrighted, LMAO

>>15586292
DLsite.

>>15586292
Kek another good one

>>15586339
I like how nijiniggers suddenly believe in the cull myth.

>>15586338
QCC, Queen of Cold Chicken

>>15586244
The only important Tally of the year

>>15586420
Thanks for proving my point.

>>15586373
Haven't looked much into Star, but Nimu for instance is a disaster.

>>15586351
It's actually silly, because even counting the numbers that were given many many weeks ago, Hololive would have STILL pulled ahead this comiket. With the latest shift in numbers? The gap's gonna be even bigger.
Now if you excuse me, I gotta make a quick trip to see if any good stuff's been thrown up at the usual places (I doubt, it's usually a bit more than 24 hours for the stuff, but Asanagi has an Azur Lane doujin for c99...)

>>15586244
And this concludes another month.

* DECEMBER GOLD SO FAR *
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Calli (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 89,652 - Niji Mario Kart Lottery&Rules
11) Ame (Hololive) - 74,496 - Outfit Reveal
12) Gura (Hololive) - 112,093 - Outfit Reveal
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 99,651 - Birthday 3D
14) Chloe (Hololive) - 31,961 - Evil God Korone
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,956 - Announcement
16) Fubuki (Hololive) - 42,374 - Shiny Hunt
17) Haruka (Nijisanji) - 25,019 - 3D debut
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 69,242 - Mario Kart Tournament
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 187,336 - Outfit reveal
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,691 - Pokemon
21) Toya (Nijisanji) - 78,645 - Niji Mario Kart Finals Lottery
22) Koyori (Hololive) - 58,518 - Totsu
23) Fubuki (Hololive) - 38,611 - Shiny Hunt
24) Marine (Hololive) - 71,316 - HoloX Confessions
25) Suisei (Hololive) - 49,543 - Christmas Relay Karaoke
26) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 130,092 - Mario Kart Tournament Finals
27) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 65,631 - 3D stream
28) Gura (Hololive) - 32,247 - Unarchived karaoke
29) Watame (Hololive) - 28,259 - Anniversary 3D Live
30) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 25,498 - Totsu
31) Rindou (Nijisanji) - 187,119 - New Years Festival

Per company
>23x: Hololive:
>8x: Nijisanji

Per Streamer
>4x: Chloe
>3x: Pekora
>2x: Shion, Fubuki, Gura, Ayame
>2x: Toya, Nijisanji
>1x: Mio, Ame, Calli, Hololive ch, Suisei, Marine, Watame, Koyori
>1x: Haruka, Kuzuha, Kanae, Rindou

>>15586369
It was most hyped sans fight she will only go down from here

>>15586454
39. Cope

>>15586244
>holos not even silver
>that gap
What happened?

>>15586477
>23
>8
>nooooooooooooooooooooo

>>15586454
>>15586420
>>15586339
samefagchama

Making the rounds on jp sites. Everyone knows niji bots
https://imgur.com/WzevhJX

NoiR keeps rising, nearly 100 now

>>15586196
On Melonbooks there are 163 Holo related C99 stuffs and 53 Niji related C99 stuffs

>>15586292

>>15586524
It's a shitty variety telethon...

>>15586468
I've only heard of the Loli incident, but from what I've looked up, they seemed to have buried the hatchet over that and even collabed afterwards, all of that being a long time ago.
And that she uses the new ugly model from ArtGun, who also made new models for some VShojos.

>>15586196
Not THAT many but it's still around third of them

>>15586574
nijibros... they got us...

>>15586574
All that fucking tells me is that Nijisanji event tourists aren't really that engaged.
Which if you told me that I'd just slap you and ask you why you're stating an obvious truth.

>>15586574
What a slow fucking chat.

>>15586574
Only EOPs spam chat, JOPs don't do that shit holobrony

>>15586574
78k views? Holy shit.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1476520469977346049
Rest in pieces Narukami

>>15586574
Well this one actually looks suspicious

>Won with massive 58 people concert
So what?
You still can't beat Pekora in the new year even with the culling, nijisisters

>>15585967
Suichan on Mogra! Make that 4-0.

>>15586667
Anon, please. I can't handle that level of retardation.

>>15586667
eops with japanese account names

>>15586671
Roa?

>>15586671
Is this related to Roa?

>>15586574
Where did this get posted?
The views on this image are pretty big, gained 3k views since you posted here.

>>15586667
>EOP
>Watch Pink Cat
Rumao Rumao

>>15586574
I saw the same thing during holo countdown. When the chat is too fast it doesn't process right.

>>15586704
>NCP
Nice. Pretty weird that InoTaku didn't play 3:12 or Stellar Stellar or Anti Gravity Girl.
>>15586734
>>15586742
>原告の女性がVチューバーとして活動を始めたのは2019年
Yes

>>15586574
Its obvious a company that when you add up even their top streamers all on their peak accounting for overlap would struggle to even come close to the numbers and that theyve had botted streams suspicion like 103$, are funded by Sony Music Japan which has a bot farm they use on youtube music. Its just cope to deny it.

>JUST TOOK A PEEK AT THE MONTHLY RANKING
Oh boy! HAHAHAHA

Waiting for the final streams of 2021 to wrap up but THERE WILL BE SURPRISES!
All sides will dunk on the other side, there will be talk for a day!

>>15586671
>The woman complains to the interview that "even if the character of my alter ego is slandered, my real self is hurt and my life is messed up." Do real human rights extend to virtual characters?

>>15586671
Oh shit, Japan might actually start to updating their concepts of net culture in law...

>>15586734
>>15586742
Yes, the Roa incident. But this likely won't likely have names because Japan's privacy is sacred.

>>15586786
This may end up being the most consequential case about vtubers, given how high the stakes are
>Roa wins, all doxxers get fucked
>Roa loses, all chuubas get fucked

>>15586083
Plus the first stream of New Year's for... all of them I think? (Too lazy to double check) Today's Sacs have already been fucking nuts I dread to think what tomorrow will be like, is $10k even going to get you into the top 12 chart?

>>15585668
The former.
Niji events getting a shitton of viewers and SC for their events was always normal so I don't mind, it was only this year that Hololive managed to get the upper hand a few times like the Coco graduation which was obviously a huge event, probably the biggest event Hololive will ever have.

>>15586823
>Do real human rights extend to virtual characters
Weird question for the news article to pose since the slander is functionally directed at the person playing the virtual character, not the character itself.

>>15586816
One of the entries is so unexpected it forced me to change one aspect of the charts that I didn't touch since I started doing it.

>>15586857
Well, I hope she wins then. Doxxfags can go to hell for all I care

>>15586857
>>15586835
Did they pull a Lulu and tell Roa not to stream for over a year to build up damages? (She still did VPs so she was getting money)

>>15586671
Niji tourists without google accounts. The karaoke relay chat is even faster than the koyori chat btw.

>>15586873
>$10k
Lamy already started the ball rolling by clearing that threshold an hour ago, should be interesting.

>>15586857
I hope she won but did she even get doxxed?
>>15586930
Probably since they still selling Roa merch.

>>15586875
Gura exists so we can reach those numbers again.

>>15586930
According to Roa it was advice from her lawyer.

>>15586857
But the case is about libel not doxxing

>>15586574
the fuck, where did you find this?

>>15586982
It’s smart advice. It backfired with Lulu because she got frustrated about not being able to stream.

>>15586816
>ESL continues to shit

>>15586880
Anon, what their question isn't about the rights themselves, but whether an "anonymous" person on the internet is still anonymous and whether or not the identity/persona being presented is the same as the person behind it.

In the US, Alex Jones used this a defense, for example.

>Pakora gets gold
>holobronies stop coping with mythical cull
>which makes them admit that Hololive naturally reclined hard
Was this monkey paw worth it, holobronies?
Good luck this year, you need it.

>>15586966
>but did she even get doxxed?
>>15587023
>But the case is about libel not doxxing
That's not the point. "Doxxers" and "Slanderers" are the same person and both are protected by the same loophole: much like slandering (let's say) Bart Simpson does nothing to hurt Nancy Cartwright (his VA) it could be legally construed that slandering Roa does nothing to hurt Roa's roommate (whoever she is).

Roa is taking it to court to say "there is no such thing as 'VA' in vtubing, the person and the character are one and the same". It serves as protection from doxxing, slandering, libelling, interfering with business and what not

>>15585668
>>15585825
The ratio is not going to be the same between channels or even streams.
It's idiotic to think that the cull just took a flat percentage of live views from everyone.
The amount the live view number is off by is going to be variable based on how many people watching are doing something that gets their view taken out.
Who knows if VOD views are dropping anything but they're probably the best measure currently for popularity.

>>15586873
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was over 15k

>>15587125
Zhang, let me tell you something...
>39 views

>>15586930
>1 year
If she wins, Narukami/Meiro will get fucked. She's one of the top Nijis in SCs in 2019 maybe even in 2020.

>>15587149
Short summary:
>it was real in my mind

>>15584151
Don't expect over 25k

>>15586671
For all the shit that they pull off, Niji talents are fucking snowflakes. Coco tanked a whole country but this bully can't handle a simple banter like that?

>>15587125
Do something else for the day. People can only call you a retard in so many different ways, anon.

>>15587205
The way things are she might as well take gold with 25k

>>15587124
But even if they are anonymous and the persona is "different", as long as she can prove damages it's still her case to lose.

Damn I just saw today's numbers.
What the fuck happened to Hololive?
Did Pakora really killed the entire company just to suck some dick during Christmas?

>>15586574
Fuck the retard that made this gif. When you see the chat 'stuttering' like that is because it's so fast that your shitty processor can't handle its actual speed.

>>15587137
BUT how would it protect against doxxing?

>that "schizo voices" second personality popping in

>>15587253
Keep sucking God-Emperor Toya's dick, Pekoschizo
I'm sure your narratives will come true if you made him cum enough times

>>15587281
You wouldn't, you can't put previous restraint on speech in most civilized countries.
But you can claim harassment caused by the doxxing and take the person to court (assuming Roa wins)

>>15587272
>is because it's so fast that your shitty processor can't handle its actual speed.
CALLING NIJICOEP ANON

>Nijisanji chat is so fast it looks slowed down

>>15587272
Maybe you are right, let me check it directly from youtube api data

>>15587332
Speculation. Maybe compare it with another 100k+ stream's chat speed.

>>15587332
It is true. Go look at Gura's outfit reveal chat. Her chat stutters too (at least for me)>

>>15586574
I watched the video and the chat slowed down during the interview. This is strange? Also, I have not seen such a slow appearance of messages as on GIF.

>>15587272
>When you see the chat 'stuttering' like that is because it's so fast that your shitty processor can't handle its actual speed.
Not everyone lives in a shithole with a 15 year old PC like you, anon. Also it's well documented how YT chat works.

>>15587296
numbers don't lie retard
go back to /hlgg/ or whatever holoshithole you came
here we talk about numbers
and numbers are masively down (30% at least down) across the board for hololive jp

if that hurts your feelings that's a (you) problem
but numbers are what is most important here and they paint a pretty bleak picture about hololive right now

>>15587284
Who are you quoting?

>>15587386
Chat zooms, stutters and then shovels messages to catch back up. It doesn't casually stroll after the pause.

>>15587237
Tell that to the Japanese LEO depts who usually do nothing about their online bullying problems.

>>15587458
Hell they don’t do anything about physical stalking until someone gets stabbed to death.

>>15587436
>here we talk about numbers
And you talk about how Pekora was railed on xmas eve for 10 hours everyday for the past week
You should go back.

Where are the year end numbers?

>>15587214
This play is meant to go after rratfags like Narukami and Virtual bhudda for not doing due diligence and as a result slandering people.
Not that I don't understand your POV, but given the option to resolve this through the courts in their own country, Nijisanji is going to take it.

>>15587436
Here, pekoschizo >>15586477

>>15587253
Pretty unlikely, since the number fuckery started before christmas
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/okLmjZckbuI

>>15587515
Wait for the streams that started on the 31 to wrap up

>>15586477
Considering how bad it looked for Niji at the end of November, 23-8 is pretty good

>>15587448
You are right, just checked gura's outfit chat, it goes from speeeeeeeed to stuttering to speeeeeeeed to stuttering again.

>>15587448
Nope. If you have a shitty processor it will appear to move slower than it actually is at all times, with these sudden pauses like in that 10 sec long gif.

>>15584209
Nijisanji got half the viewers for theirs retard

>>15587641
API check for chat #s is the better measure, and someone can. Do that if they're so inclined.

You know, doesn’t that mean Pomu caused Nijisanji to slip?
She took 5k viewers from the main channel with her watchalong.

>>15586574
>92k views
s-sugoi

>>15586574
Am I reading that right? 150K vs 5K watchers? That looks extremely fucky for sure

>deleted
always nice to see

>>15586477
The disparity ...

>>15587367
your shitty pc doesnt have a good processor either

>>15587732
Yes. Also Choco is the reason Hololive didn't reach 100k.

>>15587861
Why are you even in these threads, anon? Does getting thoroughly shat on fulfill your day?

>>15587732
Was Pomu's POV just her or did it include the video feed?
It could very well be that EOPs in Pomu's chat didn't want to bother with watching the video...

>>15584917
actual graph with numbers, are you in the right place anon?

Thanks for this, very nice.

>>15587816
It doesn't really prove anything though? Koyori's chat is full of Green Names spamming emojis while Niji's is full of greynames + cooldown fuckery

If anything is shows that Niji fans are actively watching what's happening on stream and is using chat for it's intended purpose i.e. to talk about the stream while Holofans just spam emojis and memes without a care in the world

>>15584917
Funny how people reply to obvious bait and ignore actual numbers.

wait, where does the second NJU stream go?

>>15587137
>the person and the character are one and the same
Well there are already two instances where that's not the case, AI and Domyoji Cocoa
>>15587526
Yeah in this case the perpetrator lives at the same country so they can go after him.

>>15588014
Got blocked by copyright claim

https://youtu.be/J2nMpqwaPIM?t=1797
Here, you can see it was way faster than that shitty gif on the actual screen, with some stuttering going on because not even the streamer's PC could handle it.

I'm starting to think the copyright strike is a ploy just to get more views to the 1st part of the event from impatient viewers that heard the 2nd part was better, before they unblock it.

>>15587992
First part made sense, second part is just cope
Dont forget NJU had 25 times mkre viewers than Koyori

>>15586574
Patrician event watcher vs zoomer twitch spammer

>>15588014
Got flagged for botting.

>>15588108
meds

>>15588138
It's just a maybe.

>>15586574
>almost 100k views on that
Wow, JP numberfags strong

Just watched Peko Sans battle, chat was pretty much full green again.
I wonder where they were yesterday.

>>15588108
Nijisanji should hire you.

>>15587529
What's that supposed to mean? Ever since 26 Dec - after Pakora incident - Holo has only won twice with midget numbers (32,247 and 28,259). On the other hand, Niji has won 4 times with 2 giants,1 big number (130,092, 187,119 and 65,631) and 1 midget (25,498).
If anything, that tally showed clearly that Hololive started reclining after Christmas - I wonder why?

>>15588184
It’s why I’m wondering where it got posted. Also I’m curious to see what they’re saying about it anyways.

>>15588103
It's exactly as slow as in the gif on my machine
I do have a 6 year old CPU

>>15584917
i'm really surprised that Suisei has twice as many 1m songs as Mori, are those just distributed to Spotify or is it a similar story over there?

>>15588237
that whore pakora...she essentially killed holoX too
sinful woman...

>>15588190
it's the greys from yesterday, they just membered.

>>15587149
I will post this again.

>>15588165
It's not a maybe. You can't claim a video for content that you don't own. More importantly, self-owns look bad since they make you look incompetent.

>>15587992
chats with cooldown fucking say so on the screen, zhangchama

>>15588297
monthly cover songs, she released an album, the work ethic is insane
sure she doesn't stream as much or get as much SCs but the times she does streams lots of people will come

https://youtu.be/eL8O9cLSOr0
Number ?

>>15588103
I have an insane chonky PC and the gif is pretty accurate during chat sections, and a little faster during applause. Loaded Koyori's vod after and hers is faster when comparing applause to applause. But this could depend on channel and video and chat settings so it's just an amusing cherrypicked gif rather than some kind of stupid evidence.

I checked AHG's stream that just started, likes higher than concurrent views. There was a moment where it showed only 2 viewers (including me, but the chat was still going

>>15588297
they are but she doesn't do as well in Spotify, most of her audience is Japanese and they don't use it

>>15588365
They might have contacted the owner to strike them.
Anyway, don't take it too seriously. It's just dumb random speculation.

>>15588103
thats literally a 5k ccv chat speed, for the most spammy part that you tried to timestamp

>>15588437
It's still at the lottery stage, so I'd guess around 30-50k based on recent Pekora / Hololive's performance. Would have put it at 60-90k if they were still on their Nov / early Dec form

Fuck youtube, your own channel needs to enable livestreaming to even access stream api and it takes 24 hrs, AAAAAAAAGH. Don't nijifags have any site like holostats, we can atleast compare unique users

>>15588103
That's still nowhere near as fast as I expected it to be. Could someone compare this chat to Hololive's NYE?

>>15588445
Try checking Pekora's stream when she beat Sans. The chat should be exploded there.

>>15588437
20k with cull

Fubuki 1.8 million!

>>15586047
Update it is now at 414,276 yen in SC

My 2022 wish is for /#/ to finally be cured from the numberrot

>>15588597
Don't worry anon, the way things are progressing you may see days with the daily top at 6 entries

>>15588597
/#/ is literally just a containment thread for shitflinging tribalists.

>>15588582
nice i will count it as a 2021 achievement

>>15588453
It's normal that you can get more likes and users in chat than views in the first part of any stream since Youtube takes time to process and validate viewer queue. Usually, this process takes around 10-15'. This has been the case since the first cull. People've seen multiple examples of having more users in chat than CCV months ago.
All in all, this is not really any kind of evidence for a supposed *new* cull, especially when the stream just started less than 2' ago.

>>15588103
Chat speed depends on that chat's culture.

Gerrard??!

>>15588597
this shit will go down when yt live redirect rolls in, supposedly will be implemented in 2022

https://youtu.be/eL8O9cLSOr0
Wasn't this supposed to be on NND?

My wish for numbers in this year is for
>Gura taking most live viewed stream in the year with 3D debut
>Calli taking most SC'd stream of the year from 3D debut

>>15588789
Pekora organized that one. It's a different tournament from the NND one.

>>15588802
>Calli taking most SC'd stream of the year from 3D debut
Chloe will put a fight with her 3D debut

>Mysta at 6k
wait this isn't SEA hours. Even if you deduct 2k from Nina it's still 4k. That's almost Kiara level

Okay, what are we actually expecting from the HoloX + Nene outfit reveals today? Will the cull/recline drag them down to the 50-60k region?

>>15588802
>Gura taking most live viewed stream in the year with 3D debut
Not happening, someone will graduate this year for sure, and whoever that is will get the most views

>>15588759
I fucking jinxed it, AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Just caught up with last thread

>>15588857
I'm fully expecting 30k max