/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1543952
same way you cope with the fact you will die someday
denial and just not thinking about it

>>1543952
Anon, a lot of them literally have no other skills and were doing shitty part time jobs well into their 30s before they started making money on youtube. They'll milk this for as long as they can because the alternative is being poor.

>>1543952
Marry one of them. Then you'll always have at least one. Obviously. Dumbass.

>>1544000
This. Stop being such a wimp anon.

Everything is ephemeral down to the memories of the things that you’ll miss. Embrace entropy

Play some Breakers Revenge with me on Fightcade.

>>1543952
The solution is simple my dear friend.
graduate from them before they graduate from you.

Don't be sad because it's over.
Smile because it happened.

>>1543952
enjoy them while they are here. cope knowing others will take their place. cope by telling yourself that the new girls will have cuter and more pleasant voices and more moe personalities. also cope by telling your self that by the time they are gone you will probably autisticly latch onto different fandom to replace them with.

>>1544181
>cope by telling your self that by the time they are gone you will probably autisticly latch onto different fandom to replace them with.
Is it still cope if it's true?

>>1544053
And miss her last stream? Bullshit anon, I'll graduate when my oshi says goodbye for the last time. Then I'll be reunited with her until the end of time.

>>1544067
jesus christ this hit me real hard

>>1543952
Advice from someone who's been an idol fan for two decades and had to go through this multiple times:

Just enjoy them in the now and be happy for them when they do graduate. Give the new talents a chance or move on to something else.

>>1544067
I won't, Okayu.

>>1543952
consume copium, then watch twitch streamers

>>1543952
I'm more afraid of my favorites suddenly stopping and quitting with no warning at all. Maybe one day you'll notice your favorite chuuba stopped streaming for a prolonged amount of time, and suddenly their graduation is announced and they never even got a chance to say goodbye. With so many in holos, it's bound to happen to one of them eventually.

>>1544323
Hey just random question. Im writing a game script and i wanna deal with idols and stuff, whats a good site for knowing about idol otaku culture.

>>1543952
Just enjoy the moment.

>>1544416
Certainly that would never happen and isn't currently happening.

>>1543952
When they do graduate, you'll always have the good memories and archives to look back on, so you're not losing what you already had. Sad as it is, everything goes away in the end: vtubers, people, the solar system, even the universe on a long enough time scale. We can't control these things, your oshi could die of a brain aneurysm tomorrow and never stream again. The only thing you can do is enjoy life to the maximum while you can; let the ephemerality of it all motivate you to have the best life you can.

most of these comments are strangely beautiful

>>1544416
They might make a tweet to the tune of "gonna go find myself" and then never be seen alive again.

>>1544462
>>1544323
>>1544067
Unironically these. Enjoy them while they're here. As long as they're in your memories they're never truly gone.

All things are temporary.
Cherish your oshi while you can.
And when the day comes, you'll be ready.

This applies to everything in life. Acceptance of impermanence is the way to experiencing greater joy in your day to day, as both good and bad things won't last.

>>1543952
>How the FUCK am I meant to cope with the fact that every single of them is going to graduate some day?
Make your life so shitty you can only think about surviving the next day.

>>1544441
That's really an incredibly random question.

>>1543952
Yes, this fun will end. Did you really expect anything else?

>>1544560
It's really just a bunch of different ways to say there are two, and only one if you aren't crazy, ways to address OP's issue.
Accept it as it is and enjoy it while it's here.
The other way is to try and reject that reality and fight against the ephemeral nature of how things work. Which is crazy. Either in a good/great way or a bad way, and very likely a very bad way, but crazy no matter how you try it.

>>1544441
>please do my job /vt/

I'll cherish her memory for as long as I live.

There will be a day when even 4chan goes away.
Welcome to life. When you're having a great time, or a shit time, remember the phrase "This too shall pass." Enjoy them now, not later.

>>1543952
>Perhaps even some of the older holos have already passed the half way point in their vtubing careers
I would think the older ones would be more likely to stay. Less adventurous, less likely to have kids (or already have kids and manage to vtube), fewer alternative prospects. The only part of them that can show their age is their voice and they're mostly trained, youthful-sounding voice actresses already, you won't hear the baba until they've hit menopause.

>>1544690
The world becomes a sadder place whenever anyone's oshi is no longer there.
I will create a world where no one will ever know that sadness.

Enjoy it while it lasts. Even if they don't graduate, their content might change to something you don't like. Also make sure you archive everything you like. You never know when something will disappear.

>>1545327
Slow the fuck down Anon, wait until we get Evangelion 3.0+1.0 before you snap your fingers.

>>1543952
All good things must come to an end some day, anon. That's why we gotta enjoy stuff while it's around. Isn't that the point?
It's scary to think that far ahead. Even if it's the one certainty we have in this uncertain world. But that's why we have to treasure and cherish what we got now.

>>1545494
You got it though. And you also know what happens shitposter.

>>1545327
I-It c-can't be...SUPA YAGOO?!

Well, now, everything dies, baby, that's a fact
But maybe everything that dies someday comes back
Put your makeup on, fix your hair up pretty
And meet me tonight in Atlantic City

I randomly checked some vtuber that hasn't streamed in a few months and it turned out she graduated. What's more surprising was she wasn't fully independent, she has a (small) staff. It's kind of sad, but people change jobs all the time.

They really don't have a reason to graduate anytime soon. The avatar doesn't age. The only thing would be if their voice changes too much as they get older, but older voice actresses in their 60s can still do the same voices just fine.

Either way, archive everything.

>>1543952
Every party must come to an end.
But remember that in spring ice melts and after the flower petals scatter, summer will come with all the grenery and thick mosh moss on stone, then fall comes and everything turns red before dying out in winter and snow and ice cover all thing.
Life has been always like that, such impermanent nature.
But as the seasons come and go, you will reincarnate and soon find another reincarnation of her.

>>1544564
If Haato doesn't come back I will cry and probably give up on vtubers

>>1544015
Lies, almost all of them were already successful streamers before their Hololive careers. Cover likes to hire people with experience.

>>1544000
FBPB
OP stop being such a bitch and enjoy the good times while they last

>>1546265
Experienced doesn't mean successful, plenty of them streamed for years but never became popular until they joined Hololive. And you're forgetting all the utaite who had no or very little streaming experience before joining

>>1543952
Nigga if nothing happens they will be streaming for more than 5 years.
You think you won't be bored until then?

>>1543952
You could 'graduate' before they do

>>1543952
You start to like the new girls who are going to replace them, it's that simple

>>1543952
There's nothing you can really do about the inevitable. It doesn't matter if you're given a warning or not--fuck, even if they are warning signs you'll never be able to accept it until it happens.

You just have to enjoy and cherish those precious moments your oshi gives you.

>>1546649
Pretty relevant when posting the first one who's probably going to die while streaming.

>>1546734
>implying lulu was ever alive

>>1545327
You sound like the villain of HoloAlt

>>1546787
Her spirit will return to her home dimension in any case.

A lot of big vtubers were making content online for years before vtubing, so I would continue supporting them if they decided to keep making content in some other form.

As someone who's gone through a lot of tragedy in my 30+ years on this planet it usuall goes like this.

The time leading up to is generally a sad one, the actual day is quite heavy, lots of crying, maybe anger, usual 5 stages of grief, now you think you're done crying but you ain't, you're reacting to what is happening, but in a few weeks you'll think "boy I really wanna see so and so again", then it hits you, you can't, they're gone, just their memories remain.

THEN it really hits you and you probably cry the hardest.

If its sudden, say they just graduate with no fanfare/they die, its a similar phase, but the initial shock is the hardest, just constant questions, anger over what happened, then what settles is things left undone, shit you wanted to see.

Far as pain goes, it really depends on what it meant to you, most pain you simply learn to live with, after awhile it kind of fades, something you'll be reminded off it here and there, the longer time passes the more it slips away from you, sometimes you don't even remember when they passed because its been so long.

>>1544067
Honestly the idea that I could mentally leave someone I like as much as Okayu in the same place I would leave a tv show I was into for 2 years and never thought about again scares me. I don't wanna forget these streamers

>>1543952
>his oshi hasn't already graduated
But I hear you, anon. Everything is transient. Your parents will die, you will die, your dog will die, your sister will die, your friends will die, your oshi will graduate, and then die. It's what it is. Accept it.

>>1545811
Based Springsteen poster

Stop being a fucking pussy. There’s more to life then fucking vtubers j

>>1543952
Enjoy what you have now.
It's not like your constant worrying and faggotry will change anything. If they graduate, they graduate and that's it.

dont be sad when they are gone
be happy they were there

>>1543952
Virgin's first graduation experience I see.
>Watch the clown, proof that graduation is just another step on the journey.

>>1543952
As has been said many times already: enjoy the now, cherish the memories, and wish for their best for whatever endeavors and challenges that await them next in their lives.

And at the very least hope they'll get a proper graduation for it, too. I wasn't even a magnetbro and it still hurts.

>>1549817
>Every closed door is just the intro of a brand new story

>>1543952
you will one day die

>>1551215
My life is eternal.

>>1543952
>How the FUCK am I meant to cope with the fact that every single of them is going to graduate some day?
you don't
in fact make a whiny post when your oshi graduates i will come and laugh at your faggy weeb ass

I'd be happy if OkaKoro will be as active as they are now for another 2 years
This world doesn't really deserve it in the first place

>>1544323
>Give the new talents a chance
no

>>1544350
>watch twitch streamers
unironically kill yourself

>>1543952
Get a life

No king rules forever.

>>1543952
I think they have pretty long careers in front of them, unless entire Cover gets fucked by something.
I mean a couple of them are already in their 40's, so age isn't really an issue, and there is no doubt that it's a very profitable job, and one most of them enjoy.

>>1543952
Same way you cope with your fav SOL anime ending. You archive it all in your hardrive and watch a random episode whenever you feel lonely

Unless there's a big yab, you'll jump on another bandwagon before any of them graduate

Well either graduate or die. Miko said she wants to stream until she's an elite grandma. Not sure how feasible that is but I welcome it.

>>1553549
Assuming society doesn't collapse there's no reason they can't, also at this point all any of the holos have to do is just put their character on the resume and they're set for any voice acting job

>>1543952
How the FUCK cope with loss????

>>1553585
>he thinks voice acting jobs are something good and not incredibly saturated

Why would they quit the easiest gig in the world lmao

Only ones that might quit are the ones with real talent like Ina/Calli/Marine

Everyone else is literally just girl who is cute and plays games funny

>ones with real talent like Ina/Calli

>>1553755
Yeah, saturated with garbage like every creative career field, the holos already have their big break and years of name recognition

>>1553963
Marine could walk into a seiyuu job at this point. She's got a pretty unique voice.

>>1554738
and most of holos can't
not everyone is Marine or Fubuki

>>1554791
>not everyone is Marine or Fubuki
Wouldn't it be nice if they were?

>>1543952
watame will never ghost her sheep. she loves us too much and we're too good and kind. maybe if we were toxic she'd ghost us -- be mad at yourself for allowing a toxic community with your v-tuber.
wherever happens watame will still have a twitter and talk about her life

>>1555186
not really

>>1543952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHOHnCTyDBY
Nothing lasts forever, specially when it's good.
People keep moving on forward with their lives. In the end, all the people you ever met will be gone some day.

We cannot stop time. In the case of vtubers graduating it's kind of a stranger feeling for me because I know (in most cases) the persons behind the avatars are still out there leading their own lives, but the identities they leave behind stay around as a remnant of what they once meant for many. Meanwhile the other vtubers who they had a good friendship with keep going and it makes their already small world feel even more lonely. Then there's common practice of purging everything when a vtuber retires, which almost seems like a symbolic death.

>Both sides will forget about these times eventually

>>1543952
Your oshi will graduate some day just like your dog will die. Enjoy them while they're around and don't waste time thinking about that shit. Grief is for when they're actually gone, not when they're still here.

>>1544000
bruh

>>1551177
>the numbers

How the FUCK am I meant to cope with the fact that every single of us is going to die some day? It comes closer with every passing minute. Perhaps even some of the older folks have already passed the half way point in their lifes and are now closer to the day they will die than the day they were born. I feel like I'm going to regret everything in a decade and cursing old me for not living in the moment enough. Anyone else feel like this?

>>1556458
No, I won't die.

>>1556458
I DON'T WANT TO MEMENTO MY MORI

>>1556458
>I feel like I'm going to regret everything in a decade and cursing old me for not living in the moment enough. Anyone else feel like this?
But I'm already doing that? Lol...

>>1556458
You can't be alive if you're not also dying. It's the price we pay for existing. Ephemerality is the ultimate source of value.

It's not just old people that up and die, either. Any of us could eat it at any moment for any fuckshit reason. Hell, one wrong step and you're at the bottom of a flight of stairs with a broken fucking neck. I'm only 27, but I'm years older than all my dead friends.

To quote a great old meme: "will you fight? or will you perish like a dog?"

>>1556458
Yes, you're right. It's tough. Call your family regularly and enjoy each other while you can. If anything is on your mind, say/ask it now (Sudden deaths do happen).

I'm still not sure how to cope with death, but this thread has good advice: Accept the impermanence of all things, live purposefully in the moment as much as possible, and my own advice: Focus on what's within your control (not death).
You're strong; we all are. United in our experiences of life and death, we are all connected by our mortality. Somehow, that we will all face the same fate one day, gives me some comfort. Similarly, the idea of palliative care gives me comfort with death - doctors aren't trying to 'save' us, but give us enough time/comfort to pass with peace.
If it's hard to convince oneself, experts (Hospital chaplains are surprisingly good even if you're not religious, psychiatrists, others?) may help. Just ask your general physician next time you're in for a checkup and they'll most likely be able to connect you with appropriate support. Alternatively, there are a ton of books on the topic of mortality. For me, I like talking in person.

Good luck to all of us!

>>1556944
One more thing: If you do know someone who's passed, I've found it helpful to think of how they would want you to live. It's easy to be depressed for months (exact time varies widely, so don't worry about your personal timeline) not sure what to do since nothing feels right. You can always ask how the deceased would want you to live, and it's most certainly happily, safely, and comfortably. Make them proud.

*This all somewhat applies to VTubers too, of course.

>>1544000
Based trips

>>1544697
shes our mori, we have to remember her.