/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

Numbers are gay, and so are you.

>>15510672
Did you just waste you life span on a shit post, faggot?

Matsuri has returned to the box. but people are not happy. Maybe the damage is done.

Watame and Rushia numbers are in line with their previous MK and pokemon streams.
People are just tired about those.

>15 minutes
>15.9k CCV
>5.4k likes
Does this track for Iroha (or a Totsu for that matter)?

>>15510712
>life span
I'm still here faggot

>>15510824
And clearly lacking life...

>>15510824
Not for long faggot

>>15510801
Koyori was at 48k after this many minutes for her totsu

>>15510801
for reference, koyori's senpai totsu got almost 60k, but honestly the guests gozaru is getting are just worse

hows laplus doing compared to gura and entubers?

Fuck, at least get big hitter senpai gozaru chan!

These guests kind of suck though

>>15510801
Still under 20k after 20 minutes.

Fortnite talk. 900 ccv lets go.

https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-view-counter/28A4teOXAbQ

>>15510846
And you replying is a better use of it?
Kys
>>15510855
Fuck you and you're numbers the jannies don't care about this thread.

>>15510990
It keeps going down, is that normal?

>Koyori's first 3 guests (after La+ left)
Marine, Fubuki, the entirety of gen 5
>Gozaru's first 3 guests
Matsuri, Noel, RBC

hmm

>>15510864
>>15510938
>Noel
>Gen 3
>Worse guest
Nice excuse

>>15511034
yes anon, noel is worse than marine

Rushia, Watame and Iroha all grew for 20-30 minutes, then suddenly stopped growing and stayed more or less stagnant since then. There are other reasons those streams might not do great but the same pattern happening over and over is too weird

>>15511029
How nice.
She's trying to promote the worse performing livers

Mel sora and aki next at this rate

>>15511055
>Strongest gen doko?
Don't tell me gen 3 only have Pekora & Marine

>>15511077
Test it with non-Holo too

I'm starting to believe the Pakora yab killed the entire company

>15511147
meds, please, im begging you

>>15511111
Are there chuubas with relatively large audiences (1k+, preferably above 5k) that will stream soon?

>Barely 20k Totsu gold today
Let's fucking goooooo!!!

I checked all Watame's mario kart training streams at the same time slot (18JST)
Despite the number of chat messages, unique users and members increased, the ccv plummeted

>>15510755
Matsuri getting close to her kouhai is just typical Matsuri. If she actually makes a holo friend that she wont menhera over would be the change people want

>>15511166
Kanae's totsu just started

Kanae totsumachi just started. If anyone wants to track his stream and see if the ccv follows the recent pattern. If not, then the issue is just Hololive.

So is this cull just affecting JP vtubers or is it everyone again?

Holy shit, I bet Roa's return stream would do good numbers. https://twitter.com/yuzuki_roa/status/1476493585973649408

>>15511147
No way. Pekora fanbase are self-contained, why would it affect other girls as well?

>>15511184
The last 3 arent THAT different. just a hundread differcne each time and this is happening in the recent days only.

>>15511224
What the fuck she's alive???

>>15511236
It's a shitpost anon.

>>15511204
h-holobros... are we gonna get mogged?

>>15511224
>裁判
Who was she taking to court? Rrats peddler? Meiro?

>>15511285
Meiro.

>>15511224
Translation?

>>15511224
>Roa took legal actions against someone who was spreading false information against her
So Roa vs Meiro pt2 or Roa vs Narukami?

>>15511279
I post the stream for comparison purpose. If you want to shitpost you should put some effort to track and compare the streams' ccv yourself anonchama.

>>15511184
Her graph barely even has the typical tooth pattern of marika streams either as people join on a round and leave when it's over.

>>15511190
>>15511204
>5 minutes in
>7.9k CCV
>Likes
>Likes
What is wrong with the Japanese?

fucking matsuri is leeching holox practically every day lately

>>15511285
Maybe the Roa anti who Towa made disappear for over a year.

>>15511310
she is in a court case against someone spreading rumors about her and will return after it's over

Looks like samurai totsu stalls at 19.6k for the past 5 minutes.

>>15511356
He has likes/dislikes disabled dumbass

Welcome back to the Box matsuri.

>Kanae 10k 10 mins in
Mog incoming?

>>15511224
Wasn't this the girl who bullied her junior out because of jealousy?

https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1476211646893031428

Remember before the live count would refresh every 30 seconds or so? Now it's constantly changing, sometimes after 2 seconds

>>15511442
Iroha was at 13k 10 minutes in, so too early to tell.

>>15511224
I am glad she's back. I hope Yagoo can do the same with triangle after this.

Fuck the NijiChads were right!
Hololive really is declining!
Did we get too cucky holobros?

>>15511465 (me)
Anyone knows what came of it?

>>15511454
It's more complicated than that. 2 women bickering, an autist and a menhera. Nijisanji might have made some mistakes but I don't think much blame can be put on the girls.

>>15511465
https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1476225154833612803

Look at those 2 views guys~

>>15511497
Roa just stop streaming. Aloe graduated. it's not the same thing.

>>15511422
Oh no no no Fubuki is gonna kill her numbers again...

So, uh, what if this is the new normal?

>>15511545
>not Ghost
Shit awards

>>15511410
I'm just tracking. Not, interacting with the streams. I messed with Iroha's on reflex.

>Live call with Watame
>both streaming
>Iroha's actually crying
>barely passed 20k
graph barely shows any increase despite this being one of the usual hype moments, that sees 5-10k extra viewers joining or tabbing in.

YouTube is fucked and this is depressing.

>>15511549
>suisei
what the fuck?!

>>15511510
Holofans are busy queueing in comiket booths

Kanae hasn't even started calling it yet. It's over holobros.

>>15511556
It's fine. She can handle it. She is the leader of holopro looking out for the zakos. That's the impression people have of her.

>>15511563
Then I'll just watch streams on my phone while I play games and only go to my oshi thread because this place will be a wasteland.

>>15511563
Yagoo will pay people off to extend the lockdowns until numbers improve.

>>15511422
Oh no, FBK is going to kill her numbers live on stream! I don't think I can watch any more. Maybe >>15510672 was right

>>15511545
>not kakero
Is shit

>>15511556
I've been saying it nonstop for a month, she does not care about numbers.

>>15511609
What's DLsite fuckup? Not sure if nijicope or holocope lmao

Petition: Should we bring the threshold for the end of day post down to 7.5k? Or maybe 8k? It's going to be fucking depressing otherwise. Rushia is fighting the Elite Four and only getting 6k, Suisei can't even get 5k for a zatsudan, Kanae not even 15k for a totsumachi. It's ridiculous.

>>15511563
Numberrot. It's finally begun the second stage, the slow decline into death

Okay if Marine doesn't push her up by at least 2k shit's fucked

>>15511682
No。

https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-view-counter/v2_qmvs7oi8
Kanae's stream growth looks like stairs

>>15511556
Maybe she's trying to take advantage of her new viewers from the shiny hunt

Just fuck YT at this point, I'm finding it hard to believe there aren't at least 15k people in the stream with this like rate after 17 minutes.

>>15511671
>What's DLsite fuckup?
First day in this general? That shit has been spammed a lot in the last weeks

>>15511682
No. If it's depressing that's what it is.

>Last samurais seething hard about the cull after denying EN's numbers for years
Fucking love to see it

>>15511723
I want a room that looks that good. I want to know what that aesthetic is called.

>>15511671
Uh you were not here last month?

>>15511356
Fuck, my computer crashed and I missed the 15 minute window.

>20 minutes in
>13.8k CCV

>>15511685
I'm waiting until Marine's done, but in the last 4 minutes she's only increased the CCV around 900.

>>15511754
He's new, please undastand.

what the fuck is this samurai totsu viewcount graph

Holocope is strong in here!
Become a custom to the low numbers soon they'll all be 2views and Niji well be wining the golds daily

>>15511753
>I want to know what that aesthetic is called.
fancy

Marine joined in and barely saw a bump (about 900 viewers) in samurai stream.

ccv culling across the entire YT

>>15511795
for comparison this is kanae viewcount graph
no view cull at all

>>15511795
VODs aren't affected by the CCV counter, so that is a product of the actual audience watching, anon.

>>15511797
Isn't this Kanae's first ever totsu? Just 15k?

>>15511795
Youtube is trying to actively cull the views on currently running streams like they do VODs and that's fucking up the CCV counter?

>>15511810
Oh no no no the worse guest cope...

>>15511828
>>15511795
Shit sites. look the graph on vrabi, that's more normal

>>15511810
Ended up being just over 1k bump. That's absolute bullshit.

just like with VODs queues that started shittinng the bed on august i think Live count queues are shitting the bed now so it is taking longer to validate users

>>15511795
I thought this was the numbers thread, what is this amateur shit

If the current low number melt your numberroted brain, consider check back after next week.

>>15511903
That’s the chart for VOD views

>>15511859
>running streams like they do VODs
What does that mean?

>>15511903
makes no difference over VOD views

>>15511925
Oh right, my mistake

>>15511757
>26 minutes in
>15.8k CCV

>>15511915
I'm actually sort of enjoying the new meta, things had become a little too predictable lately. We might actually see Nijis and ENs challenging for golds now.

16.5k with Lain (Edengumi midget) on call. He's gonna mog Iroha. It's over.

>>15511930
it means their quueus to validate live users are being as slow as the vod queues

>Later today I'm having a collab with Iroha, La+, Matsuri, and Shion. Will I make a stream? Nah, God Field is fine with one stream. It's kinda like making separate stream for UNO.
Listen to this Reimu

Subaru is on and the viewer count is barely moving at all? Come the fuck on Susan

>>15511909
Cause i'm just an amateur anon, please do give me better graph

>>15511930
VODs are culled of views. Anons thinks they've started doing that culling during broadcasts.

>Kanae's 1st totsu
>15911
What the fuck... This shit should be an easy 30k. Kanae is basically Nijisanji's Marine in terms of connection and chemistry with other livers. Fuck you Susan!

>>15511977
Anon, we went through the top gimmick queens back to back and the CCV didn't basically change.

>>15511961
Going from Matsuri and Roboco to Marine and Subaru gave Iroha and extra 1000 viewers or so, if it's anything like that it won't incline no matter who he's calling

>Turns out JP's numbers are worser than EN after the culling
Rumao Rumao

>>15511961
I'm interested to see if big Niji livers can bump him significantly. Does Kuzuha or Mito do call in? I don't watch Kanae.

>>15512048
i'm scared for the big niji new years numbers, what the fuck is goin on

>>15512080
>worser
Seanig, how about you fuck off?

There are really only 4 different possible explanations to the low turn outs these last days.

1. Youtube fucked something up
2. The box of Hololive has broken
3. Viewers are busy with other things during the end of the year
4. Hololive Reclined

Pick your poison.

>>15511955
>32 minutes in
>17.3k

>>15512114
I'd believe the 'Hololive reclined/box broke' narrative if it wasn't literally overnight. This shit never happens instantly. If the views had slowly declined over the course of a month or two to this point then I'd agree.

>>15512080
What's EN's highest today?

>>15511930
I'm just spitballing ideas. For years and years now, youtube culls VOD views in an attempt to remove bots and verify that actual people are watching videos. There should be no reason for this process to be occurring on currently airing streams since obviously the video isn't done yet but that graph is showing total views (what should be the vod counter when the stream is done) going down.

>>15512114
I don't think 2 has happened. It's probably 1 and 3 with a sprinkle of 4

>>15512114
it's too sudden for hololive recline, there's something fucky going on.

>>15512110
keep coping last samurai

In other news Rushia is fighting the elite 4 to the same 6.5k viewers she's had virtually all stream

>>15512114
I'll take #3 pleae

Kanae gold???

>>15512114
5. Holobots stopped working and counting as viewers.

>>15512102
If Nijis NY stream fails to get 100k than there's absolutely no question that another cull got implemented by Susan's pajeets

>>15512114
>he doesn't notice we're also tracking Niji's as we speak
Anon...

>>15512145
Kronii
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/DJIW299vDmY
it started reclining once mumei and mori started.

>>15512207
He lives in holobubble pls andastand

>>15512207
Nijis numbers are normal, JPfag, stop coping that holoJP is reclining hard

Kanae started stalling at 17k

Fubuki comes on and the CCV basically doesn't change at all. This is not how totsus work.

>>15512145
Ina's normal drawing and Kronii's normal gaming mog all JP's normal gaming so far
Don't tell me you gonna use Totsu numbers

>>15512145
should be this one. under 10k with a FOTM game that so far only Botan played on holos side

>>15511224
holy shit, I never thought she would come back like this after all this time

Suisei
6.3k viewers
6.9k likes

>>15512223
>below 10k
So no EN on the rankings today?

>>15512289
Still mogged most of JP

>>15512274
18k for Kronii, a pretty good result

>69 minutes of Totsu
>dat fucking lineup
>the CCV
QT3.14 help us all...

>>15512207
But Nijisanji numbers are always low.
The NijiChads are busy doing the sex and stuff they can'tbe watching streams right now.
So hololive is definitely reclining

>>15512114
Its 1
Too many numbers are gone to be 3.
2 and 4 doesnt work when holos are not the only ones experiencing this. Even I believe Kanae’s stream is unnaturally low

>>15512296
That's the top EN stream. Can't even get half of actual samurai stream.

CAMMON KANAE SCORE A FAKKIN GOLD

>>15511682
Now that's a holocope

>>15512328
>comparing a normal game stream to a big collab
Kek the absolute state of last samurais

ENTER GOD-EMPEROR

>>15512358
I wondered what he's been up to. Never would have guessed he became a vtuber.

One more for Kanae:
>41 minutes
>18.8k CCV

>>15512249
Anon, Kanae is stalling at 17k on a fucking totsu... KANAE!? ON A TOTSU!? I ain't a nijinigger but I sure as hell know that shit ain't normal!

* live-tracking top YouTube streams, unfiltered *

>>15512186
>>15512119
>>15512302
Has writing to @TeamYouTube on Twitter ever resolved any of these?
I know at least last year and in August it forced them to address the changes.

This change especially is baffling because they're trying to draw Twitch streamers in, but they're showing 1/2 or even 1/3rd of their actual live numbers.

Kenmochi Toya is calling Kanae on his first ever totsu, less than 20k watching

>>15512420
Most surprising to me in this list is both Hal and Shigure Ui failing to break 10k

>>15512420
yeah, youtube's fucked

>>15512400
Btw the difference between vod views of kanae and iroha stream right now is 27k and 134k

>>15512420
In before youtube added an additional filter to all JP channels so that their new pet gaming youtubers look better for investors.

>>15512420
Did DHC just start because 36k is very low for them.

What if the cull is just YT just now applying the update it made for the EN side.

The drop in viewers last year for the JP side was actually just the holiday debuff and not the actual cull?

Kanae broke 20k
Tick tock Iroha

>>15512460
But Ui's stream showed 10k+ yesterday for me?

>>15512462
might just be the time of year - covid

>Koyori totsu around 58k
>Samurai totsu barely breaking 20k
>Suisei is streaming and calling at the same time
>no noticeable bump
Do we need more proof?

>>15512449
>Has writing to @TeamYou-
No.

>>15512449
They gave the same type of canned response on both times. I don't think they care as long as they can cook the books in favor of their "Chosen Ones".

>>15512476
It does "look" like EN streamers might be less affected.

But they streamed so little in the Holiday time that it's hard to compare.

>>15512479
NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD
NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD

>>15512476
You would be correct if EN did not also get lower numbers.

>>15512499
Suisei calling caused Iroha to drop 200ish viewers. Funny thing is Suisei's stream gained 200ish viewers over the same time.

>>15512479
>>15512525
20k golds, how low have we fallen

>>15512496
then what about this? I do remember it being 10k+ and thinking she is doing pretty good for an indie
>>15512492

>>15512476
I guess Lamy and Polka don't count as JP.

>>15512520
i think they will be just as affected BUT i think overlapping now is far more impactful.

Provisional ranking

Iroha (Totsumachi) - 22.1k*
Kanae (Totsumachi) - 21k*
Nijisanji Winter Special - 18.8k
Nyanners (Jackbox collab) - 16.1k**
Veibae (Binding of Isaac) - 14.7k
Chloe (Karaoke) - 11.2k
Chloe (Marika Collab) - 10.2k

*Ongoing
**Raided peak

>>15512308
Yeah nijitrannys are busy piston each other's assholes

>>15511903
vrabi is ccv, livecount is vod views

https://youtu.be/6n1YGPPmSFk

if this doesn't break 50k youtube is 100% broken

>>15512553
Ui-mama always gets over 10k easily

*BANG* *BANG* *BANG*
CAM ON KANAE
SCORE A FAKKIN GOLD

>>15512492
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/qhqUkVvbkM4

Where did you get 10k?

>>15512562
You're missing FBK pokemon at 20.3k, it started after midnight.

>>15512562
>Iroha (Totsumachi) - 22.1k
Live ranking caught that?

>>15512576
>Split POV

Might have troubles breaking 30k honestly

>>15512616
Holostats caught 22,176 as peak.

>>15512576
It's a split pov anon....

>>15512578
Yeah I know, but that's not the point here anon. The point is this number being wrong >>15512420

>>15512610
In my youtube app

>>15512576
Based Marine feeding the PekoMari shippers

>>15512562
>Including twitchbots numbers

>CCVs are an irrelevant metric
What else is new? This metric has shown to be massively inconsistent throughout the months but only now when your precious JPs are more affected that it becomes a problem

>>15512532
Ina just got her usual numbers. Kronii got her usual numbers too.

>Roa confirmed to comeback but fighting a legal battle against a menhera bitch and the narucuck

>nijis confirmed not to be effected by the cull

>holocope is in full force

Finally, nature is healing.

>>15512576
1 block... if they are going for the finale, then we might get high ccv

>>15512641
not based.

>>15512619
>>15512637
>Shameful Yuri Bait

>>15512667
Ina usual numbers are 11k. Kronii usual numbers are also over 10k

holy shit what the fuck is happening with numbers? suisei can't even get 10k with a zatsu? she had 20k+ median just a while ago. rushia cant even get 10k when her afternoon streams were always a locked 10k

>>15512676
Kanae is barely getting 20k with fucking Toya on a Totsu. That shit should get 30k+ at minimum. Especially since it's Manjisanji.

>Kanae 21k max
>iroha 22k max
yeah some shit going on both of these should have been 30k at least.

>>15512676
>nijis confirmed not to be effected by the cull
Kanae is at 21k for his first ever totsu, that's not normal

>>15512698
Holiday debuff.

En only lost a couple thousand. JP lost almost half their CCV.

You guys realize this is close to the new years right? And there is no covid buff anymore, people are going out.

>Kanae going down
No more gold Nijis

on nijis side:
>maimoto totsu: 28k a few weeks ago
>kanae totsu: 21-22k now
kanae should definitely be higher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5uEIDDr5o

If this shit can't bring us back to the promised land of at least 35k then it's genuinely all over.

>>15512705
i translated his stream title, "first time", if that is correct then very weak for someone like him.

There's a lot of event streams that usually get big numbers starting soon.

The stream on La+ is a Kamipoi-off, singing battle stream.
Easy 50k, even 100k in other situations especially since everyone in it has been pimping it, even Iroha just now.

Expecting the A-chan stream to only get 2k, so that we can confirm views are halved.

>>15512449
After the lolcows that were mixer and Ludwig's first few days, I don't think anything can draw Twitch streamers in except if you offer them millions.

>>15512666
nigger, ENfags was bragging about ccvs until gura slipped down, then only views mattered to en fags, until it was shown jp had her beat in total view out put. After that only views/video mattered.
You can try to forget your history as much as you wont, but there will always be someone who remembers.

>>15512736
Then why are Twitch numbers unaffected? I get that Twitch viewers are more degenerate but there hasn't been any noticeble decline there

>>15512751
Maimoto's more popular than Kanae holobrony

>>15512757
La+'s collab wouldn't even get 50k on a good day, it's not going to get 50k with this shit going on and getting overlapped by a Pekomari collab.

>>15512700
Namibia stole holo audiences

>>15512705
Don't try and rope Nijisanji in to big CCV holocuck!
Us Nijiplayers know are numbers are right, maybe stop coping and get ready for the New Vtuber Order.

>>15512750
anon, its god field, I'll be surprised if it passes 15k.

>>15512700
>20k+ streamers super downgraded
>10k+ streamers struggling to hit 10k
It's a repeat of December 2020 (See: >>15484166)

>>15512757
Didn't circle in FBK because she's getting her usual 20k and it's an ongoing series.

>>15512785
Holy cringe

>>15512772
>Maimoto's more popular than Kanae
kek

Pajeets and Susan broke Youtube

>>15512763
Keep seething last samurai, now you have a choice: either accept all of EN's numbers this years should be at least 2x of what was shown or believe your precious holoJP has reclined badly ahahahaha

>>15512772
>Maimoto's more popular than Kanae
lol no, he's just a leech

>>15512772
Ha ha what the fuck

>>15512779
>singing battle stream
>With Suisei, Shion and the new blood
>Laplus's Kamipoi got 4 mil views in 3 weeks
>La+'s collab wouldn't even get 50k on a good day,
did you even think before writing that anon?

But yeah, definitely not getting 50k today.

>>15512785
kys cringelord

>>15512839
He clearly just a shitposter that doesn't know anything about Nijisanji

>>15512771
Twitch numbers have never been correct, maybe Susan need to pay them a visit to correct them herself.

Rushia suddenly jumped by 1k after Iroha finished, it seems like it shows when they catch a funnel but they can't incline at any other time

>>15512784
time to go on a safari hunt.

>>15512763
Retard you're basically saying that JPs reclined THIS BADLY in the span of a week, I don't fucking buy it, just like how I didn't fucking buy it when every Holo EN lost close to half their CCV in a week

>>15512864
t. Youtube employee

I'm out. Too much retardation in this thread. Numbers are fucked anyway.

>>15512772
lol Maimoto is an absolute unit.

>>15512879
Yes this is what gets me, the views halfed in literally 3 days, it's not natural at all, even with the Holidays going on right now some streams should never be as low as they are

Nearly as flat as Rushia

>>15512705
>>15512676
Just looking at Kanae's chat's speed, it looks like at least 40k people are in here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_qmvs7oi8

>>15512822
nigger see, >>15512805

>>15511224
Can't wait to see the kind of numbers this disgusting whore will pull on her revival stream. It's a shame we no longer have dislikes.

>>15511682
No, because then fucking susan will push below that.

namibia has normally been 2.5-3k for the past few weeks

KANAE STILL HAS TO CALL KUZUHA
IT'S OVER HOLOBRONIES

how did suisei not break 10k, not even 8k, what the fuck, zatsus are guaranteed 12k for her

>>15512901
yeah, just enjoy the streams, a lot of good stuff is coming and running.

The steams haven't changed just the numbers.

>>15512936
r u gay enjoyer?

>>15512912
December 2020 was when EN's numbers was halved, glad you conceded that and Gura actually got 220k+ CCV for her recent outfit.

>>15512930
Kek, and faggots itt still deny that the ccvs are busted

>>15512930
Anon, Namibia cam was pushing 4k+ since last weekend.

>>15512685
>>15512691
The sheer difference

>>15512930
namibia bros, its over...

>>15512879
I'm not, all I'm saying is that En nut huggers are constantly moving the goal posts for what should be the number beyond all. CCV until gura wasn't #1 -> views until gura wasn't #1 -> views/video for now, since gura is still #1.

>>15512963
Only ones denying it are coping last samurais refusing to admit the truth of what has been staring them in the face over the past year

>>15512930
>Namibia under 1k
Ok, now it's clear that there is youtube bullshit

rindou is doing karaoke and not even hitting 2k
even her MK streasm got that.
is hard to numberfag nijis since most are too low.

Are you people all fucking stupid? This is how YouTube has all ways been. All numbers go down around this time until the end of Jan. It was always a shit time to upload anything because you'd get fuck all from ads.
Vtubers aren't immune

Koyori has the same amount of views as she has likes and she started 5 minutes ago

>>15512992
What were the likes situation like last year? I don't remember anything wrong with that then unlike now

>>15512980
>t. last samurai
It's perfectly logical to dismiss numbers that Susan has been fucking with.
She fucks with CCVs - you don't count that
She fucks with total VODs - you don't count that
Keep coping ENschizo

>>15512772
Baseball tourist...

>competing over a 22k gold
I CAN'T CUM WITH THESE NUMBERS FUCK
anyone to salvage this disaster for prime time

>>15512930
Oryx-chan...

>>15512997
kanae beating iroha makes sense but the numbers ARE still low.

KANAE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD

KNEEEEELLL

>>15512992
compare these two battling the elite4

>>15513064
>>15513075
If today's gold is 22k I'm leaving this thread forever

>>15513064
>KANAE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD
KANAE-SAN, I KNEEL!

I never doubt the TRUE PRINCE could get it, it's a little early but you can call it now
>30) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 22k+ - Totsu

YOU ALL KNEEL NOW!

>>15512980
I didn't even discuss anything about rankings on who should be #1 or any gay shit like that, I just stated that CCVs have always been busted and a shit way if numberfagging since December of last year and only now are you dumbasses realising it when JPs are more affected by the culls

>>15513096
>comparing one of the most popular holos to someone from the shittiest gen

Do you guys like my Christmas present?

>>15513064
>>15513075
Well, he will win anyway but I feel his number is lower than I expected

>>15513103
Pekora is getting the gold

>>15513103
KNEELPOSTERS ASSEMBLE!

>>15513001
>1.1ccv, 1.4k likes
same with flare

>>15512930
Susan is fucking racist. What else is new?

Calm the fuck down faggots

>>15513075
>>15513103
Don't worry EN whores came, so they'll debuff him.

>>15512992
Not for vtubers, Jan numbers are all normal here. December last year had a big drop because of the cull but other than that no differences

>>15512909
I’m unsure how much I trust chat messages as a measure for what’s accurate honestly. For example, Gura’s streams compare to the best in the business despite people always making fun of her ccv. In fact, her rate of messages during her outfit stream was practically equal to Pekora’s despite being 75k viewers down, and everyone knows nousagi’s are just as spammy as chumbuds. So there’s either a ton of fuckery all around or maybe it’s just how youtube chat is with how fast it rolls out.

>>15513108
read filename anonchama

Susan?

>roboco with 900 likes 300 viewers
i fucking knew susan will do something at the end of the year

>>15513106
>now when JPs are more affected by the culls
They were pretty affected last year, it just wasn't as obvious because the culls coincided with EN declining

>>15513142
Gura sama's VODs views are consistent

Kanae
>69 minutes
>22k CCV

Does this look normal to anyone?

>>15513075
Kanae-sama, I kneel.

>CHOCO INCLINE!
8k+ on a regular ass run of the mill gimmick free stream

>IT'S OUT TIME TO SHINE, CHOCO BROS!

>>15513178
>roboco with 3 times the likes to views
ratio bros...

Rushia is about to fight Cynthia, no real incline so far but she hasn't started just yet tbf

Look at that ccv to like ratio lmao

Idk anon, at least i got reason to cope.
this is kanae vods view from 1hours into stream

>>15513158
Protip: every EN vtuber's CCV should be doubled for the accurate numbers

Kanae's numbers have been low recently, I don't know if it's because he is spamming debuff games, but there has been no big numbrs drop for the past 2 weeks, I think 20k for a totsu it's normal, it's just Holo losing a lot fucking views like Flare, Roboco and Pekora yesterday.

>>15513075
just the thought of a 22k TOTSU possibly getting gold is fucking disgusting, is it time to retire from being a numberfag bros...

We shouldn't call this culling
We should call this JP declining and make last samurai seethe

elira and reimu on kanae

>This thread for the past year
>"It doesn't matter that EN's likes sometimes doubled their CCV, western viewers just leave likes more often."

>Now
>"HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THE LIKES THEY'RE HIGHER THAN THE CCV THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS RIGHT THERE MUST BE SOME MISTAKE"

>Choco making it to the top today
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, DOUBTERS!

Gimmick free too, just Choco showing some pics completely unassisted by any external factor

>>15513158
EOPs chat more than JOPs, we've been conditioned for years to like, comment and subscribe so all those are much higher for EN chuubas

>>15513254
>last samurais seething nonstop for the past few threads
Fucking love to see it.

wtf

>>15513267
>numbers go down
makes sense

>>15513273
>Choco
>10k+ CCV
What in the upside down?

>>15513221
and this is iroha 1:24 hours into stream, with 1rst totsu buff. And you want me to believe that for some reason iroha only got 1/6 retention rate?
what i can conclude is maybe for some reason kanae not affected at all (?)

>>15513276
>>15513269
>>15513134
>>15513001
Anon I...

>>15513273
Now I wonder how holobronies will spin this? This proves that there is a decline but if a relatively low view like choco can get these high numbers then that’s more than enough reason for the like cope being retarded

>10 minutes in
susan..

Okayu caught a shiny 15 minutes into her stream.

>>15513201
Stop fucking hiding the goods Choco. Show the boobies get bigger numbers!
Who cares if you get banned!

>>15513307
Anon, your screen is from Amongus

>>15513238
anon, Kanae's first ever totsu with the big shots of niji calling in should be a lot higher than 22k.

>>15513201
>>15513273
Man I seriously hope she gets to keep this CCV but knowing the blonde hair curse for Holo, it's unlikely

>>15513123
MILF

>>15513221
>>15513221
im going to rape a jew whore

>>15513273
>>15513316
>suba choco luna in the title
huh?

>>15513201
SubaChocoLuna collab where they review "ecchi" Choco art, of course she's going to get views.

>>15513320
kek, confirmed for Brazilian

>>15513150
Retard kek

>>15513296
Nah, I refuse to believe there is no YouTube fuckery going on right now, Robocco may be shit tier but this is just too low even for her

>>15513304
anon, she's hosting a demonization speedrun test with ShubaLuna looking at ero pictures to see what will get her channel banned.

>>15513221
>>15513307
simply means Iroha has more active interest on her, than one of the veteran poster boy of niji

>HOLY SHIT
Choco going for the gold?

>>15513142
They must return to Minecraft arc after MK tournament to fix their numbers

ENTER KING

>>15513379
look at the fucking thumbnail retard

ENTER

>>15513379
Choco is inclining for real holy shit.

>>15512930
what the fuck, how could they cull the wildlife...

>>15513327
true Iroha's totsu has more views than that

>>15513379
>Choco number rising
>My Cock is rising
>HoloCope is rising
Man it's a good fucking night tonight!

>>15513238
Kanae’s numbers has been normal. Kuzuha went down but that can be explained. This Kanae stream should be fighting for gold, which it is, but at higher numbers than this

There is no culling, cope
It's just JP reclining hard

It seems Kanae keeps getting more views with each guest and they don't leave.

>15K Choco
Holy shit gold for today maybe? MAYBE? MAYBE? COME ON SUSAN DO IT FOR THE BIG TITIES

>>15513269
Is /vt/ even already exist last year?

>>15513327
fuck i'm retarded
it get worst though

>>15513383
Then he's at his peak

>Choco 15k

>>15513473
wtf why did they replace my dick for a sausage

>Noel 564k yen
>Flare 381k yen after 20 minutes
Did I miss something? Where the fuck did all that money come from?

>>15513323
She is using pokeradar so I don't think it will be affect her number

>>15513464
Nope, we're pushing for our 1st year in January I believe.

>>15513508
susan
this is nerfed choco. if she unleashed her full power, her channel will be banned permanently

>>15513513
End of year zatsudans always get a lot

Susan fix your site ffs!

>>15513513
are they by chance doing sc reading?

Choco just plateau'd. Let's see if it stays flat from this moment on

These are some fucked up ccv to like numbers

reminder gura has a jpeg with 12M views

>>15513435
Retards here think kanae has a high view ceiling wwwww

>>15513537
>a fucking straight line and then plateau at exact 30 minutes
this is fuckery

>>15513446
It’s too sudden to be a natural recline

>>15513564
Cover's viewbot machine broke

>>15513564
Does pokemon become a debuff game?

>>15513564
OKAYU!??

>>15513585
>last samurai faggots keep claiming EN is reclining
>suddenly it's not a recline when it happens to JP
Cope

Are everyone just pretending to not see subaru?

>>15513612
who?

>>15513611
I'm not going to take any post with "last samurai" seriously.

>>15513473
Reported to Susan.

Final peak for him I think. Should've left the Kuzuha segment for last. Big bummer.

>>15513612
Who?

>>15513611
must be the 20th time you say this today, alzheimerchama

>>15513628
That's because you are one

>>15513611
The "EN cull" (that affected JP too) was over a year ago, anything that happened since then is a natural recline unless there's actual evidence of Youtube fuckery

WTF are these numbers. Iroha and kanae should atleast achieve 30k+ at base for this totsu.

I guess we are not getting that 30k+ daily now.

Why is JP reclining hard?
What went wrong?

>>15513611
I mean either YT fucked up or Pekora yab actually affected the company and I don’t believe the latter

>>15513645
Wait no i posted wrong pic.

>18K
IT JUST KEEPS GOING UP

Rushia can't even get to 9k fighting Cynthia lol, even Luna got to 12k this is ridiculous

>>15513676
Kanae is close to 30k though.
Iroha barely got 20k.
Stop coping, holoJP reclined.

>roboco has gained more likes than viewers

>>15513611
I don't remember there is another culling after December last year until now

>>15513691
Pekora yab fucked up the whole vtuber industry in the span of 1 day

You with all this fuckery choco going for the medal today holly shit! 18k now!

>>15513611
Your impotent rage got old a long time ago. EN is reclining and that fact has nothing to do with Youtube changing how CCV is displayed a few days ago.

>>15513712
22k is pretty close and 25k totsu is really bad for a top tier niji like kanae. Both totsu underperform.

>>15513735
SHUT UP I DONT WANT TO BELIEVE IT. She can’t be that influential

I already figured out at very least one change: on Desktop, the counter for live views used to update every 30 seconds or so, now it's updating much faster

Can we numberfag how many times "last samurai" posted in the last 24 hours?

>>15513735
pewdiepie's gamer word yab fucked up the whole let's play scene. never recovered

>>15513735
Pekora is trully the strongest vtuber. not even the kizune ai fuck ups could cause so much damage.
i kneel

>>15513794
Ctrl+F and search function

Luna reactions are the best, Luna being the "straight man" to lewd Choco is the best of this stream and the reason for its numbers.

Weird that two streamers usually under 10k can pull such a number unassisted

King is replacing Kanae

>>15513735
Damn she's that powerful? Holo = Peko?

>>15513767
this is true,
so the pajeet coders managed to:
>modify the ccv counter to update faster, for the cost of completely fucking it up altogether

>>15513745
There is no CCV changing few days ago
Stop coping
Just HoloJP's numbers are diving to hell, anon

>People unironically think there's nothing strange about Roboco having 500 views
Seriously?

>>15513735
I'm not one to believe rrats, but I am starting to believe the Curse of the 25th... and Pekora fulfilled the prophecy!

>kuzuha zatsu
NOW THIS HAS TO BE BIG NUMBERS
all is other zatsu have been realatively big

>>15513839
It's literally just one seanigger schizo revenge posting on cooldown for the entire day, you can tell because all his posts are exactly the same.

>>15513735
Are you sure?

>>15513839
Seriously

Someone needs to ask a Holo to post a poll so we can see how many people answer and see how much the CCV is currently being understated by.

Kuzuha might get gold if Kanae closes stream.