/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

her gachis were organising some sort of boycott on 5ch

Maybe, but numbers seem to be down across the board.
Hard to ascertain how much of the decline is due to what

>>15460559
post link to check

>>15460445
good, let the orca become the face of numbers

Numbers are down all across the board, pekora isn't an isolated case here.
Now go back to your containment thread fag

Looking at the general numbers around the board i think it's a youtube culling or maybe that the audience to go outside for once near New year's.
The last one isn't impossible but i think in other holidays numbers weren't definitely this down.

>>15460445
>>15460559
>>15460693
>>15460785
>>15461080
holocope, your whores are dying. The rise of the indie will come.

>>15460445
What has she done?

>>15461153
Spent christmas with boyfriend

>>15460445
what happen at chrismas

>>15460445
That's the price of idolfaggotry

Flare

>>15461149
>The rise of the indie will come
As likely to happen as year of the Linux.

>>15461397
oh ok, is just susan being susan

>>15461399
just you wait.. next year will be year of Linux

>>15461399
>>15461524
not even comparable holofags. Independent entertainment is completely different from open source software.

>>15461612
Anon why so bitter? come on tell us what happened, it's almost new year.

My indie oshi went from 3view to 2view today despite being 3view for months.

>>15461153
sex with Jun

>>15460445
Undertale's been seen enough times for it to be a debuff game now.

>>15460445
Damn, poor girl doesn't deserve this. Atleast I'm confident my oishi isn't getting stoned despite participating in a VRChat orgy on Christmas.

>Pekora BTFO the entire Nijiseaji MK
>Endless bait thread everyday
SAD!

>>15461612
theyre really not that different anon, linux is the indie OS of the computing world, its compatible with the big 2 but its not either of them.

>>15463675
indie entertainment in reality isn't as laizzes faire as free software is.

And even putting the term indie on Linux nowadays is just wrong.

her viewers are kids and they were watching the shiny new amogus collab, you can see her shoot up to 16k after the collab ends

Anons are missing the point. Its not simply that not streaming on christmas means that she was fucking somoene, its also that she ended up neglecting the lonely part of her fanbase on christmas day. No one is really delusional enough to believe a few hours or even minutes of stream means that the girl couldn't have had sex with a boyfriend, otherwise all rumors of pic related should have been dropped simply by her part in the relay stream. But if you think about all those lonely viewers who have no girlfriends, family or friends for christmas and the only thing they can look forward to is a stream with their oshi?

>>15464104
Those are the 35ps, there's notable overlap between Miko and Pekora's fanbase.

>>15464294
it was shitty for her to neglect her fans but going full schizo about it is too much. The whole christmas was weird anyway for her for obvious reasons

>>15460559
link or screenshots

>>15464294
Sounds like those viewers have problems and should get help.

>>15464294
I think it's not fair to the streamers to be expected to stream on major holidays. If they want to that's okay but it shouldn't be seen as a requirement.

>woman wants to get dick
>but lives in a country where the local simps do not appreciate that

If only she had been american, a million thirsty white knight incelsimps would jump to m'lady's defense and donate all their money to the fair one against the evil gachis and their unicorn overlords.

>>15461524
>>15461399
The applefag fears the girthy.

>>15460693
holiday

>>15464977
no one was requiring her but she never informed about not streaming and you know...people were expecting at least something

>>15464977
Likewise it's not a requirement that anyone give them money at all. Weird how marine doesn't have this problem even though her fans think she's a whore, probably because she never appealed to gachikois and unicorns in the first place.

>>15465217
It’s because she’s a funny whore

>15465217
Don't start this timeloop, you've already done it the past few weeks on /hlgg/

>>15461268
she didn't give everyone the PekoMiko Christmas stream they were supposed to have, stupid rabbits head is too far up her own ass to give a shit about people that were supposed to be her friends

>>15461279
Nah, it's just the price of streaming on youtube.

>>15465217
What the fuck are you talking about? Go watch her at least if you're going to see something stupid like this

>>15465104
this but unironically

>>15464294
she did stream on christmas

>>15465217
Anon, there is a difference between openly talking about sucking dick, lusting for males and being just generally horny about certain things that is in the end just pandering to guys that indeed want to fuck her

Guess which one is Marine

>>15460445
read the following
>>15460192
>>15460343
>>15460728
>>15463896

This thread is definitive proof that vtubers need to focus on literally any other audience than the Idolfag/Unicorn/"Im just really lonely bro I need vtubers for parasocial" audience. They are a fucking scurge and any amount of positives they bring through donations and being a fervent fan is outweighed by what fickel sensitive entitled manbabys they are. Imagine taking a major holiday off to spend with your family, and your pants shitting mentally stunted audience throws a fit that you didn't dedicate every solitary monent of your life to them. Content creators in other spheres aren't treated like this. Not XQC, not Karl Jobst, not Markiplier, not Jim Davis, this is a uniquely vtuber problem and one day dumbfucks will realize anyone who acts like that is not worth pandering to or fostering as an audience.

>>15464977
Christmas is not a major holiday in Japan. It's closer to a second valentines day for them. I do otherwise agree you, but it doesn't apply to Pekora's case. In Pekora's case she didn't stream for one reason or another and that's entirely a streamer's right, but schizos gonna schizo.

>>15465829
relax schizo, unicorns are literally the closest thing to chad in the anime community

She has a pretty consistent 5-10% dislike ratio now on her videos post-christmast

>>15465829
People targeting this audience know exactly what they're in for. If you can't at least handle those people then you shouldn't join hololive. Gachikoi are pathetic but it's still a mutual relation

>>15465829
good riddance VTubers aren't Markipliers or Xqcs, wtf

>>15466003
This, I want to spend time with my oshi on Christmas, not spend my time with some retard shouting at his computer screen

>>15464294
ayame I kneel

>>15465829
>believes the falseflagger schizos about Pekora losing viewers
>can't even be bothered to check /#/

>>15465829
>Content creators in other spheres aren't treated like this
you must be new huh?

unless i get all of the super chat money then i dont give a shit about how big or small the numbers are

>>15465829
sounds like you should fuck off and watch those streamers you mentioned instead, cuck

Treating Vtuber, especially Hololive like e-girl are the first mistake that normalfags make. Idol have a meaning.

>>15466405
this
I will never EVER fucking understand why people want to force hololive to change into some mainstream normie shit. These people somehow got into hololive but actively hate everything it represents

>>15461612
Yeah, open source software is infinitely better, but freetards still can't win lmao

>>15466449
>Idol have a meaning
And you certainly don't know it and have never interacted with idols in any capacity before Hololive.

>>15460445
>Wtf is going on with pekora's numbers?
>Undertale
Is it really a mystery to you?

>>15465891
Holy delusions

>>15464673
>>15464882
> Nousakek are filled with schizos
More news at 11

>>15466934
cope, you're you and I am me and we both know that is proof

>>15465829
Yeah, they should ignore the audience that gives them the most money

>>15467007
That has proven to be false and it's just a cope you losers use.

youtube being youtube

>>15467103
lies

>>15467103
>proven to be false
Can I see it? The proof.

>>15467103
>proven to be false
Post the evidence.

>>15464294
let her have sex guys is this really a problem. Bruh.

what world am I living in where a man screams at a bitch for having some copulation

>>15461399
And altcoin season

>>15465829
gottem

>>15464294
So people wants the fusion of bugs bunny , marvin the martian and the coyote to have a gfe experience? Seriously?

>>15467359
it doesn't matter what people want, she is GFE. Only a handful of holos aren't

>>15467312
>he missed the altcoin season
ngmi

>>15465829
your in the minority here. Its nice to hear words like this for me. Clears my head. Since I live around poor people who are like this. I get a taste of common sense sometimes.

>>15460445
Faustian bargin with crazy idolfags and now's the time to pay.

>>15467409
GFE isn't even a term used in the 5ch vocabulary this is western 4chan delusional projections to define Holos as GFE or not GFE

>>15467266
The same world which punished fornicators with fines or forced them to marry and stoned adulterers to death.

>>15464294
>otherwise all rumors of pic related should have been dropped simply by her part in the relay stream.
But she had a 5 hours stream on christmas? You're just doing a low effort bait right?

i don't know where to stand here, i really like pekora but i won't tolerate her leaving us for a man on an important day such as christmas were a lot of people including me are just alone and want someone to share with and thinking about me waiting for her to say something while she was with a man is the bottom line tough i would come back to her if she apologizes

>>15461153

>Not even one good post in this thread
Just nuke this shit, it's actually painful to read.

>>15467605
She wasn't with a man and she apologized in mengen fucking falseflagging 35p

>>15461149
you mean NIJICHADS

Isn't she a huge introvert that never leaves the house? I doubt she has a bf

>>15467266
If your girlfriend cheated on you, I suppose you wouldn't get mad at her for "just some copulations", would you? You mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging air-gulping retard.

>>15467605
it's even worse when that man is a chad with a lot of money... i just want pekomiko to be back and erase this present, i hate it man, pekora is supposed to be ours!

>>15467702
Stop lying to yourself, anon.

>>15467725
>i just want pekomiko
>pekora is supposed to be ours!

>>15467553
Well, do you think 5 hours stream is enough proof against her being able to have sex with a boyfriend? Unless the chuuba's doing a 24 hour stream, you can't really say they aren't doing it after stream is over.

>>15467605
pekora literally did an apology

>>15467681
This. She already said sorry for her behaviour and explained herself. You can either feel that you cant forgive her or that you forgive her or for some reason you didn't hold her to a standard, but the situation is already over

>>15467883
*In her members stream to keep her dedicated paypigs from doubting.

>>15467605
>>15467725
>>15467769
>>15467936
You don't watch her, you don't have her membership and you also can't do your reps to know if she is with someone or not ,just kys already.

>>15467936
When holos actually start addressing and talking drama casually in normal streams or making twitlongers then its the actual end of VTubing for me

>>15467936
lol as if non-members have a right to complain

>>15460445
That and YouTube might be through a second cull right now. The anons on # thread are frothing over Susan right now

>>15460445
pakora

>>15460445
She is getting married with that jp youtuber that pulls the big numbers.

>>15467876
no she didn't. She laughed at all the nousagi that were sad and angry during her mengen stream.

She knows how upset her fans are but she doesn't care. ちけん (chicken) is now a banned word in her chat because 5ch nousagis made a meme involving it.

>>15468021
how new? all of jp holos have mentioned some sort of drama or 5ch rrats in their member streams/twitcasts
some of them literally dmznty whole day doing egosa just to get something to get angry/sad about

>>15467883
her excuse was her ear hurt so she went to the hospital. But everytime she's ever gone to the hospital, she tweets about it so nousagis can know. She was also fine on Subaru's stream. She lied. She never apologized.

>>15465829
obscene but effective bait

>>15468128
its another thing to do it in members etc. than just casually bringining it up, making up drama, stirling up drama and enpowering drama. There is a reason why it is done carefully and at least I do not want some public announcement about this shit

>>15468025
These are all normal numbers for Nijis and Holos stop coping nutsackis

>>15465829
you can even be successful without pandering to those people in any way whatsoever

>>15467194
if she's horny, she should masturbate on stream.

>>15466734
just because you keep parroting this shit, doesn't make it true. If an idol has a scandal in Japan, it's not uncommon that they're graduated the same fucking day. AKB, NGT, Morning musume are all well known examples. You have no clue what you're talking about so shut the fuck up and do your reps, you cretin.

>>15468186
So you don't have her membership and everything you post is copypasta form /jp/, anon just watch your oshi and support her before she graduate

>>15467605
Why are Watamates like this

no one cares for undermeme

>>15468054
Jun is already married retard.

Everything pekora has said to us over the past year was a lie. She never cared about us. She never empathized with us. We were always losers to her. She used our support, time, and money to get famous and threw us away the minute she thought we were no longer useful to her.

>>15465829
lmao, those streamers lose a shit ton of viewers if they take even a day off. Our lazy vtubers would never be able to pull off their hours.
The ironic thing is, they would literally not have time for sex if they had to work as hard as real streamers to be successful.

>>15468645
and heavens forbid if people would treat holos the same way as regular streamers. Their average viewer is more of a bully than anything else. They have more antis than supporting viewers, swatting, stalking etc.

>>15468519
I think it's a stupid rrat and I don't think they're together, but no one knows who his wife is. He's keeping it a secret for some weird reason. He said she won't say anything on his stream because she's shy.

>>15468089
Pekora graduation soon.

>>15468759
Holos are consistently the top super chatted and membered streamers on the entire platform. But sure, let's listen to some jackass on 4chan that's partaking in a hobby he doesn't belong in.

>>15468468
I care about her more than you. This has been extremely painful for me the past few days. You're blinded by your love for her, but she's a liar and a fake. You don't understand the significance of what happened.

>>15468913
I was talking about how it is for regular streamers anon. Holos have it extremely fucking good

>nousagis seething at cold chicken
Roru Roru Rumao

>>15469145
she banned it in her chat and is laughing at us. So yeah, nousagis are upset.

>>15467359
Sounds hot for me

Holy shit, I can't believe people actually fell GFE from someone like Pekora?

>>15469084
No faggot I did my reps to know she wasn't with someone and once again go back to your oshi and stop being a loser

Is this the laugh at nousagis thread?

>>15469281
pekora is PEAK gfe what are you smoking?

>>15467499
Are you seriously this stupid? Would you believe they don't use the term "rrat" over there as well? But guess what shithead? They still have their own terms for rumors and bait. If you honestly believe the Japanese don't expect the Holos to meet their expectations for their word/term that's equivalent to "GFE", you are unfathomably retarded.

>>15469281
this is the girl that for the first year of streaming all she did was trying to be a perfect idol and she cried on stream when people questioned her status as idol

what the fuck?

>>15467409
Never have seen her really acting like a GFE

>>15465217
this is pretty funny.
"weird how [true statement] even though [false statement], probably because [false statement]."

>>15469307
Yeah? what reps, you larping shit? The "i'm an idol so i can't belong to just one person" reps? You realize she lied right? There's nothing indicating she was telling the truth other than her own word you smooth-brain fuck. She is my oshi. Why do you think I'm so upset?

>>15469506
They do have term for rumor and bait and falseflagging. They don't have term for GFE. There is a point, GFE and not GFE is a western distinction. Whether people felt betrayed doesn't have anything to do with GFE. The fucker who introduced the term into the vernacular back at /jp/ should've killed himself because it's fucked up discussion for ages.

>>15469638
Good to know that you're an anti and you didn't you do your Christmas eve reps.

>>15467194
Go back to Nijisanji cuckold. You're not wanted here

Look let me spell it out for you idiots. What happened was the equivalent of seeing your wife leave her male coworkers house with his shirt on. When confronted, she says that she was there at night for work but her shirt got dirty on the way over so the guy lent her one of his. Now it's possible she's telling the truth. But occam's razor says she's a cheating whore unless she can convince you otherwise. Pekora hasn't even tried to convince anyone. She just laughed at us for bringing it up.

>>15465829
>realize
Your opinion doesn't matter anymore because you're a burger and we know what kind of propagandistic shit the US shits out from Hollywood. You will not subvert Japan, Japan hates you

>>15460445
What did she do during christmas ?

>>15469782
You know what, I agree with you. It's a useless term because every single Holo is expected to provide what people here call GFE.

>>15460445
What happened with Pegora?

>>15469782
surely they call it fanservice or something.

>>15469830
She was MIA on Christmas eve except for three minutes on Subaru's stream (where she wasn't sick), the few tweets she made about her christmas outfit, and the couple of in-studio clips she posted. She said she would stream on the 24th and didn't. The fact she uploaded prerecorded in-studio videos of her 3D santa costume instead of streaming the home3d versions like everyone else means she knew she was going to be gone ahead of time. So tell me these reps, anon. Tell me them so I can fall in love with her again.

Hololive has 50+ members now, if you are disappointed with your oshi please watch other girls, no need to be angry

I was fucking Pekora on Christmas. Sorry bros, won’t happen again!

>>15468330
This. Except you have to be a gem like Suichan and FBKing

>>15461524
I BELIEVE IN LINUX!

>>15470206
No! Please! Stop posting this please, I'm begging you!

>>15470014
Appealing/Selling to unicorns is the term if they need to refer to why situations like this happened (as opposed to "GFE"). You can see how they describe english GFE here https://eigo-net-slang-jiten.blogspot.com/2021/04/vtuber-gfe.html and there is not a direct equivalent translation. The distinction between "girlfriend" and "not girlfriend" for this actively inhibits discussion for this sort of thing b/c you get caught up of if she's trying to be your girlfriend or not. As opposed to whether she keeps unicorns placated or not.

I'm mad at her for killing pekomiko. I started watching her because of mgs and pekomiko and both are dead.

>>15460693
I'm slightly worried, wasn't youtube cutting live numbers around the same time last year?

>>15470206
Nousagis are so weak.

Use your brain instead of your heart, there's no reason to believe Pekora is unpure.

Is 16k at 3pm a bad number???????

I am okay with Pekora or any other vtuber to take days off for whatever reason, like fucking their boyfriend.
Because I watch vtubers as entertainment, not as a wishful thinking relationship.

>>15460445
So who dare called her a numberfag anymore after this? Such a bad move for number

>>15464977
kurismasu is not a "major choliday" in Japan thugh

>>15470379
>>15470666
So you were full of shit and there's no reps. I'm just supposed to believe her even though everything inside me is screaming that she lied.

>>15465738
can you clarify that first sentence, there's a difference between what? [openly talking about sucking dick, lusting for males] and [being generally horny about certain things that is in the end just pandering to guys that indeed want to fuck her]?

>>15470759
No one telling you to believe her. Just stop watching her if that bothered you
It's just a day break and nothing more, at least from my perspective. Sure she broke her promise to stream, but ultimately, it's just 1 single day without her

>>15465829
Chuubas don't even stream half as long as this dudes on average, Pekora checks out after like a few hours usually.

>>15470759
Both of them are not me and I will make thread soon for this stupid rrat when I'm not busy watching her or replying to faggot like you

>>15465829
The differences between normal streamer you listed vs Hololive is that the girls have more than just streaming to do, they have dance lessons, idol stuffs, recording for birthday/anniversary/concerts
Normal streamer does nothing else but stream all days, that's how they can stream that many hours

>>15468845
isn't he a Vtuber hater?

>>15470699
For Pekora? Yes. But the reason is due to some weird culling going on again on youtube. It affected many other chuubas/streamers as well.

>>15465215
she did stream on christmas though

>>15469107
Holos do a lot of stuff outside of streaming, certainly some of them at least with singing, dancing, voice acting etc. but generally you're right they have it better than most streamers.

>>15471053
I heard they implemented eyeball tracking and only counts your view if you're watching the screen.

>>15465891
>relax schizo, unicorns are literally the closest thing to chad in the anime community

>>15470924
I asked about it on /jp/ and apparently he is like Japanese Xqc but worse personality. His fans is annoying and basically will attack anyone he mentioned (He won't do anything about it of course). Also openly hate Vtuber yes, and never change despite promised to

>>15468845
Probably because it's just a random japanese woman and it's no ones business who she is.
He already joked about his wife being Pekora and him fucking her because JP schizos mention it in his chat.

>>15465891
Chad or anyone close to being one wouldn't watch anime in the first place, let alone obsessed with it

>>15471127
See? This is what I mean >>15471127
The man can quite literally kill Pekora entire career any second. He joked about it once and Pekora ended up being the one suffered from all the rumors and rrats

>>15470399
Okay, makes sense. The English vernacular does sort of use GFE as an umbrella term, sometimes, and places the unicorn appeal under it.
The vtuber being both single and intimate with viewers seems to be valued by many EN viewers, so I guess they don't always distinguish.

>>15471211
Sorry I mean >>15471152

>>15470879
Are you really pulling a "posting proof next thread"? Just post it here. But you won't because it doesn't exist. Trust me when I say I wish it did.

>>15471211
you're an idiot. him saying he creampied the bunny doesn't mean anything because he's a known troll. He was saying it to make people like you mad. No one knows the truth, but it's unlikely they're together so calm the fuck down. Pekora is getting anti'd because of what she did, not what some jackass says.

>>15471165
normies are looking at screens a lot these days, they'd be nerds for that 20 years ago

>>15471103
At this point I wouldn't be surprised.

>>15471804
I'd believe it. I wonder if looking at the live viewer count would be considered a view

>>15470759
>I'm just supposed to believe her even though everything inside me is screaming that she lied.
Yes.
Many fans have gone through this before this and their belief in their has been rewarded.

>>15471854
that's actually minus 2 views

>>15468759
Holos are very lucky. They can stream somewhat casually while pursuing whatever projects they want like music or events. Their viewership is very stable and doesn't just evaporate when they take a vacation like what happens to normal streamers. And you're right, they're also physically safer.
The only drawback is getting caught dating is a big scandal for them.

>>15471865
what about Matsurisu?

>>15460559
I notice Miko also declined in number. Is PekoMiko really that important to them that they have to hurt their oshi like that? I certainly feel sad when there are no funny PekoMiko interaction any more but watching Miko everyday is enough. I don't want my Mikochi to feel anymore sadness.

>>15471103
Youtube has gotten ridiculous. They cull ccv, vod views, and subs like crazy. I don't know if they're just obsessed with creating an algorithm that suppresses all the right-wing political channels blowing up or what, but it's pretty annoying for vtubers.

>>15460445
Yes, she had sex on Christmas, very yabe, fans are not happy.

>>15471932
See >>15465774

>>15461399
Anon... have you checked the news? Linux can play 75% of the top games now. The days of Linux being a viable option instead of a meme OS are closing in.

>>15460445
How do you suck this much after over 18 hours?

>>15464977
>christmas
>major holiday
christmas is literally just japanese "Lets Have Sex" day. no I'm not joking or spouting a /vt/ meme, that's literally what they do over there.

>>15465891
This board makes me feel so well-adjusted

>>15465829
I like how you said nothing untrue or controversial at all and got screeched at for it

>>15465774
You guys are also forgetting Japanese nikis go home to the countryside to spend the New Year with their aging parents. Rural infrastructure isn't as well developed. Remember Matsuri went to visit her grandma and they didn't have internet. Peko-chan recently said she'd like to visit her grandparents but she wouldn't be able to stream which she didn't want to drop. It's perfectly plausible that the numbers are low because people aren't able to watch.

>>15460445
Is En viewer bug affecting Jps too, miko's numbers are also affected

>>15470879
I'm patiently still waiting. I would be grateful if you could set my mind at ease.

>>15461399
I've been using Linux (which is akshually GNU/Linux) as my daily driver for years. Linux is also on countless smartphones all across the world, and many of the people who own those phones may not even have a PC.

Bruh...did you not realize that the age of Linux has already begun? The age of indies may have already begun as well.

>>15466666
Satanic quints are telling the truth.

And the only ones who want to change japan are the western cucks & troons. They can't enjoy nor respect anything that is not like how they want it to be. That's why they seethe when they see loli, ecchi or harem anime and try to ban it.

>>15470793
You can be horny and not be a slut. You can be horny and not be a manwhore. You can be horny and be a virgin.

Marine is horny, likes hentai and kinky shit but she doesn't talk about how her vagina is drooling semen.

Nousagis always win

>>15478176
>but she doesn't talk about how her vagina is drooling semen.
Yeah no shit. Who the fuck does that? with timestamp please

This thread is just dumb, hate all you want, Pekora is pure talent, Pekora just have to find some good games to recover.

>>15478256
I believe Veibei from VShoujo said something like that. Maybe not exactly that but equally disgusting nonetheless.

>>15476194
This.

>>15460445
>spend Christmas with bf instead of with fans
>woah why are numbers low?!

>ITT: Entertainers owe their fans their lives because the audience willingly throws money and that should not be fucking challenged

>>15461153
No christmas night stream?

>>15460693
Its called christmas anon. People are visiting their relatives and are on holidays

>>15460445
How does that VOD has 500k views then?