/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Why'd he add Suisei?

>>15356556
Reminder that anykara shut this guy down for speaking the truth

>>15356556
i don't know how kanae does it but he has some of the most dedicated and autistic schizos in terms of both fans and antis. pretty impressive

why do people hate kanae?

>>15356646
Narukami hate confident stacies

>>15356556
>Kagami Marina
Who? Is she related to Narukami?

>>15356556
>Inuyama Tamaki
For what exact reason? Is it about his roommate marrying or what?

>>15356556
Wow, finally something Nijisanji can beat Hololive at!!! Congrats Any Color!!! This is a winning formula.

>streamed on fucking Twitcast
Oh how the mighty have fallen. This list is boring too except for #5. Lol.
You can tell way less people voted this year.
>>15356849
Menhera, obsessed with anti comments, schizophrenic fans who worship him like a god and will rip off theoretical limbs of any collab partner he has who they perceive of mistreating him or ruining his image.

>>15356946
Tamaki is a consistent ranker because IIRC of about her opinions regarding money.
>>15356646
Probably because of the Robert collab.
>Matsuri
hand yab duh.
>Kuzuha
probably the "superchat to get promoted" yab. apex also breeds schizos.
>others
consistent rankers so the reasons are the same really. Kaida Haru and Kagami Marina are the newcomers i see, but i dunnp much about them.

Please post Narukami lewds

>>15356710
>speaking the truth
no, but you make a good point for why he is biased

>>15357078
you forgot power harrassment/bullying his kouhai

>>15357174
Tell us what voice in your head told you.

>Suisei
I can't believe it. Do unicorns really?

>>15357232
Newfriend, it's something even he says

>>15356710
Reminder that Cover gave his channel three strikes, ultimately took it down.

>>15357118
For reference, the previous lists.

2019
1. Narukami Sabaki
2. Fairys
3. Kakyoin Chieri
4. Shibuya Hajime
5. Kagura Mea
6. Kuzuha
7. Botan Kii
8. Inuyama Tamaki
9. Gundou Mirei
10. Shiki

2020
1. Narukami Sabaki
2. Gundou Mirei
3. Yuzuki Roa
4. Kusunoki Sio
5. Kiryuu Coco
6. Kingyozaka Meiro
7. Kanae
8. Chihiro Yuuki
9. Inuyama Tamaki
10. Shirakami Fubuki

And the archive: https://twitcasting.tv/narukami_sabaki/movie/714940588

>>15357232
it's a joke you autist

>>15357248
>newfriend
Your bullshit don't work here, nigger.

>>15356849
Kuzuhafags hate him, so they'll vote for him.
Kanaefags know about this, so they'll vote for Kuzuha as payback, and you have the results. And since there are more Kuzuhafags, Kanae ends up ranking higher.

>>15356646
Suisei antiposting saw a really marked incline almost overnight after Still Still Stellar's first week sales figures came out.

Also, this is your daily reminder Narukami's poll consists of like 2000 5ch dramaniggers voting.

>>15357266
Based cover go out of their way to get rid of this cancer

>>15357118
>probably
People admitted they hate Kuzuhafags so they voted for him, just watch the damn stream

>>15357271
Sio...

>>15356556
>just streamed
I thought he was banned

>>15357350
I think it's probably more that people still buy into the Kanae abortion rrat.

>>15357498
Twitcast.

>>15356556
Why don't you post the votes too, faggot, no one fucking cares about this literal who anymore, it's only a few antis who make throwaway accs.

1位 Narukami Sabaki 553票
2位 叶 192票
3位 郡道美玲 120票
4位 葛葉 112票
5位 夏色まつり 106票
6位 勇気ちひろ 96票
7位 星街すいせい 80票
8位 輝海まりな 65票
9位 犬山たまき 60票
10位 甲斐田晴 57票

>>15356646
>Suisei on the list but no Coco or Haachama
are antis for real?
Go Suisei i guess, get those haters.

>>15357520
No, newfagchama, it's not 2018 anymore. Everyone fucking knows that Kanaefags and Kuzuhafags hate each other. Kuzuhafags send superchat to Kuzuha telling him to ditch Kanae on stream.

>>15357526
Kek, that's pathetic. You'd get more votes in a poll deciding your Pokemon MCs haircolor. What's even more funny is anons in this thread trying to create stuff from this

>>15357271
Any oldfags know why Chieri was so hated in 2019?

>>15357350
i thought they were friends? im so confused

>>15357589
no doubt a lot of kuzuha solo fans hate kanae (opposite is also true) but pretty much all those supas were obviously just kanae antis falseflagging and you can easily tell

>>15357526
>57 votes for Kaida
I know those are all the schizos who got upset he removed his unit from his Youtube. I was honestly expecting Kanon the Apexfag to show up on this after she literally got exposed for leeching in comments and DMs as well as leaking tournament info and accusing her team mates of not telling her the date of a tournament after she arrived late forcing everyone to wait, then making up an excuse of being in the hospital, but it looks like now that he's on Twitcast, only women care about Narukami anymore hence these results.
>>15357755
They are. Solo fans for them are just incredibly brain damaged.

>>15357373
Wait what?

>>15357755
Their solo fans hate them cause they do company sponsored gay shit as a pair.

>>15357646
It's just a loud minority, like that one Narukamifag here that spam gay porn of him

Since he's on Twitcast and losing viewers he should start doing harapan ASMR featuring his antis coming to his house, that could get him trending

>7. Hoshimachi Suisei
>Salty Ensemble Star fans ran to this faggot.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>15357931
>one
Anon...

>>15357966
thats kind of hot

>>15357986
Kill yourself.

>>15356646
Most likely the controversy about her song cover art being similar to another famous song.

>>15358352
Except
>it wasn't a famous song
>the art was drawn by the official Enstars artist
>the lyrics were written by the official Enstars lyricist
>Enstars autists saw this (or didn't see it because there was no males on the tweet so why read anything) and thought it was stolen/rip off so they campaigned on Twitter to get it taken down
>no one cared, other than Enstars autists
Again, this entire vote reeks of estrogen.

>>15358352
it's more likely because of her Shiny Colors collab with Roberu really. it's a perfect shitstorm from many fronts; Suisei collabing with a male, it's the peak of the seiyuu scandal of an Idolmaster character, etc.

>>15358519
Newfaggot.

>>15357685
Long story short, the narratives going around at the time regarding .LIVE's inner drama painted Chieri, Pino, and Mememe as backstabbers and Tama as an innocent victim of workplace bullying. The whole thing is a little complicated and not entirely clear when it comes down to it.

>>15356556
>3. Gundou Mirei
Based stacy
Matsuri deserves it though

>>15357572
5ch has always loved Coco. Not sure about Haachama but she gained a lot of respect recently for making the doxxer kneel publicly.

>>15356556
This Manis the keemstar of vtubing?

>>15356556
i think he should kill himself

>>15357526
Wow it’s fucking nothing

>>15356646
What? He didn't add her, people voted for her.

>>15359299
worse then. Ensemblestarfags probably added her

>>15359338
enstars is the vilest thing with the vilest fanbase in the world, still confused why people still like that shit

>>15359570
cute boys
The worse thing is that Suisei likes the game too but the fanbase is too retarded to notice that the song isn't leeching Ensemble Stars success but doing it as a celebration of it

My kings!

>>15358675
Tama did nothing wrong, Sio did nothing wrong,.EVIL deserved to fail and Roboco is shit Apex.

>>15359762
That hairstyle suits kuzuha really well. He has such a basic design actually (silver hair red eyes vampire) but he makes it feel special desu

>>15357526
Its fucking nothing. Thread's over.

>>15359762
These designs were made for the sole purpose of sex until exhaustion and blacking out

>>15359762
i want to have sex with my girlfriend, kanae channel

>>15359675
The boys sucks tho, the writing is also atrocious for an idol series.
It's no surprise how retarted the fans are, they're worse than demonic animals, attacks everything even each other. I hope Suichan stop liking it and get a better joseimuke to obsess with. I feel bad for her, she's such a talented and hardworking idol but she got enstars curse for liking it so her fanbase filled with schizos too...

>>15358675
qrd?

>>15361796
I can't really blame her, male idol games die out faster than Enstars can push out a new rank event.

>>15361863
I hope HappyEle got KyoAni'd for world peace, amen.

why is he so popular?
he is even followed by famous artists and some nijis

>>15360217
>Sio did nothing wrong

>>15357861
Popularity tax. Basically Suisei hasn't really been talked about outside her general on 5ch, and when she has, it's usually been relatively understandable as far as these things go. I think the type of people who watch her stick to Twitter. However, after Still Still Stellar topped a chart, suddenly there were a lot of posts on 5ch about Suisei that were clearly just drama-addicts throwing shit to the wall trying to see what sticks. I guess it might have died down, I haven't really kept up for the past couple of months. Anyway, >80 votes.

As for Ansta, pic related is the latest seethe. I don't play gacha, so what's an M-ranking and does anyone have a link? I'm not really sure what to google here. If Suisei really is beating all her antis in the game, the cope is delicious.

>>15363301
All I heard about her is that her IP address leaked and was compared against IP addresses on 5chan (or something), but nobody ever explained how they were able to get all the IP addresses on that site. That seems like a bigger story than whatever some vtuber supposedly posted.

>>15363496

>>15357526
> Suisei 80

>>15363709
But how did people get access to all the IPs on the site and why isn't that the big story? The comparison to Aloe makes this all the more suspect, since Aloe didn't do anything wrong.

>>15363459
It's ranking in events in the game. You play a rhythm game and get points. You spend money to play more to get more points. My JP fucking sucks but I think one is implying she spent money to get her rank (which shouldn't cause seethe at all because holy shit everyone who plays that game does it) and another is I think saying whatever her username is isn't her/ that she's lying? Idk correct me or shed some light. Maybe they think someone is playing on her account because the rank increased while she's out ?

>>15357931
>one
kek, good one

>>15364086
>I think one is implying she spent money to get her rank

>Plays a pay2win game
>Seethes because someone with more money is higher than you

>>15356556
your gay

>>15357271
>Fairys
>Irys

>>15363935
The mods/admins made them public because of rampant falseflagging
Source: I heard it here on /vt/

>>15365453
Using IDs derived from IP addresses would accomplish the same thing.

>>15361959
yeah HappyEle are responsible for spawning this ungodly thing, they're more fit to be burned even than kyoani... except our beloved poor chuubas who likes this shit, we need to assault every enstarries. Too bad i can't find my irls who likes enstars.

>>15365562
Maybe the hash function was known?

>>15365812
The fact that nobody has an actual answer to how people could see her IP on 5channel makes it clear that the whole story was made up.

>>15365972
I'm sure if you asked the Japanese they would have an actual answer
Most of us here only heard about it second hand, but I do remember hearing about it here as it was happening

>>15366300
A leak of IP address data would be a bigger story than anything she or someone else said. It's not just some minor detail. If there's no explanation for it then it didn't happen.

>>15365208
Enstarries is unironically worse than /vt/'s bottom of the barrel.

>>15366439
The leaked IPs weren't on 5ch. It was on another site and she was shitposting there.

>>15365650
>>15366466
>using an American Enstars fanbase name made by and used for EOP zoomers, on 4chan, in a discussion about JOP schizos
Huh?

>>15366543
So now the story has completely changed? Yeah ok.

>>15363935
It was a fucking big story, a whole blogging site released the IP of every single one of their bloggers.

>>15366439
There are many possible explanations and you can receive the correct one by checking the information on the JP side
Truth is not determined by what 4chan can or cannot explain

>>15366647
>Due to security hole in blog site note.com,
Anon?

>>15366725
Where is the big story about 5channel? Knowing the IP on one site is useless if it can't be matched against IPs on 5channel.

>>15366770
If there still isn't anyone on 4chan who has the answer then obviously it doesn't exist.

>>15366777
See above.

>>15366838
I don't know how did 5ch and Sio got stuck in the same story but she was in note.com not 5ch

>>15366838
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 41ec-30iA [222.4.120.217])
2020/04/20(月) 07:16:05.04 ID:EnbSI3io0
私栞桜だけどなんでがいがいしてるの?
何があったの?

See if you can work it out yourself.

>>15366944
The story so far has been that she was posting on 5channel... so that story was suddenly never true? Even if the whole thing happened on note.com, how would knowing her IP address help anything? Either it's already known that the account is hers in which case the IP makes no difference, or the IP makes no difference because you don't know who it belongs to.

>>15366971
If you come here and post about what someone supposedly said or did then the burden of proof is on you to provide the necessary evidence. Plus, /jp/ in particular always brags about how they always know absolutely everything, yet to this day nobody can explain the IP address thing.

>>15357526
Lmao someone on /vt/ can gather more votes

>>15356946
She's a monumental hypocrite and she is very pro black company tactics in regards to some old job she had where she parroted the same shitty behaviours others did "just because it was the norm" in the industry. (manga)
She also pissed off a lot of people for her views on hiring people that previously graduated, saying it is something akin to "stabbing your fans in the back". She made no concessions for those forcefully terminated due to mismanagement.
You wonder why her and Polka haven't hung out again? That's why.
I used to like her but her views seriously put me off her. I still like Warabe though, shame she is in with her.

>>15356556
Who are any of these people lol

>>15367059
Anon. That was ctrl+C, Ctrl+V of one of her posts on 5ch. Ironically gotten from a blog defending her, look on the first line and see why people were able to match the IPs when another site accidentally leaked them.

>>15367154
>Who is Hoshimachi Suisei

>>15367198
>That was ctrl+C, Ctrl+V of one of her posts on 5ch.
How do you know it's her post? That's the entire problem here. How did you get your hands on the IP data? Where did that come from? Nobody has an answer to this.

>see why people were able to match the IPs when another site accidentally leaked them
You cannot match the IP against 5channel unless you also have access to 5channel's IP address data. And one of you just backpedaled and said that she never was on 5channel to begin with. Obviously this whole shit is made up.

>>15367122
Wow, fuck her then.
It stings even more because I used to love Himegoto(but I haven't really followed her since she ended it, neither as vtuber nor as mangaka since I stoped being a trapfag around when it ended).

>>15367122
>She also pissed off a lot of people for her views on hiring people that previously graduated, saying it is something akin to "stabbing your fans in the back"
She's 100% correct

>>15356556
1. The guy himself?
2. why
3. Slut right?
4. breaking YT TOS to bait indies
5. handgate
6. ???
7. Why Suisei?
8. idk who this is
9. pretending to be a girl(guy)
10. idk who this is either

>>15367312
Hey I didn't backpedal. The story as I knew it was that she was on another site.
Both of you were discussing and I just said that it wasn't 5ch.

>>15367122
kill yourself schizo
TAMAKI LOVE

>>15356556
Give me the drama related to all these choices.

>>15367496
She's pretending to be a boy.

>>15367522
That is a backpedal from the story as it has existed so far.

>>15363709
>proven she were cheating at mahjong
She may be evil but I'm still not convinced of that. Literally just one semi famous guy's video cashing in on her drama days after, looking at an old tournament going "hmm that move was suspicious. Not optimal! If you're a pro you know what I'm talking about. And that one, no no I wouldn't do that! Yeah hmmm she must be seeing something..."

I still respect her as a villain with skill. The mahjong at least was the real her.

>>15367490
Treating people like eternally indentured servants because they happened to start their careers with a specific company which might not have been able to financially sustain them or was poorly managed is a shitty attitude, but seems very fitting for Japanese. It's like fans that get upset a star player doesn't want to waste their whole career playing for the Lions or the Timberwolves or whatever the soccer equivalent of a perpetually shitty team is.

>>15367312
Because the IP attached to that post matched the IP from the leak? How fucking retarded are you.

Here's her own fans version of events, which is also where I copy and pasted her comment from (although if you really want you can go archive diving to cross examine it, this blogger wasn't alone in talking about in August 2020):
https://note.com/tamonmaru/n/nad92aabc7fe9
The fact that that the IP addresses matched is just not in contention, her own defenders say it was either spoofed or it was from someone else nearby.

>>15367719
Where did you get the IP from? How are you not understanding the issue here?

>>15367807
From the fucking post, between the fucking name "nameless" and the timestamp.

How come the hate for gundou hasn't died down it's honestly impressive that she can still be number 3 at the end of 2021

>>15357271
Sio...

>>15367886
Ok, you're either stupid, pretending to be stupid, or computer illiterate. IP addresses are not publically visible which means 5channel was hacked or someone on the inside was leaking information, and either of them would be a major event far overshadowing whatever it is that Sio supposedly posted. Yet there exists no account of either of those occuring on 5channel, or any other credible account of how the IP address information was obtained from 5channel.

This was all made up and never happened. I'm done.

>>15367968
I'd assume it has died down, after all it's only 120 votes

>>15368095
it's narucummy who fell off

>>15367968
Her enjou still burns strong, it's just that no one gives a fucking shit about Narukami anymore.

>>15368095
Dude everyone has few votes the fsct that she's still number 3 in such a small sample size speaks for itself

>>15367719
The biggest problem is the dox/inside info right? spoofers or neighbors or whatever wouldn't have that.

>>15367122
Gonna need some sources on this.

>>15368044
>IP addresses are not publically visible
Incorrect
You wont be able to see 5ch but here's the archive of her posts:
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20200712/NTZDaWV5MUIw.html
and here's the general archive of that board for that day (YOU CLIK THE 2020年07月12日 AT THE TOP):
http://hissi.org/read.php/streaming/20200712/
Where you can see
222.150.163.141
126.23.135.23
124.211.222.27
203.135.204.226
(from page one, CLICK 次へ>> if you want to go further)
Similarly decided not to click the button to hide their IP.

Have I walked you through hand in hand yet or are you going to continue being retarded?

>>15368044
not that anon, but you know that Sio is a meme in Japan because if it right?
https://youtu.be/6Nwt-t_Z1MA (1:06)
she graduated because people find out she was shit talking other chuubas, it is a fact. Do your research dumb EOP

The one chuuba I hate is on this list so I’m happy

>>15368332
I don't even care to try find it any more. So you can just not believe it, I won't force you to.
It was way back in 2020 and am I FUCK looking for that shit.
>>15367490
Faggots like you are why the suicide rate in Japan is out of control.
Careerist fucktards ruined Japan. The type that will blackhole your life if you dare leave a company for a new job are scum incarnate.

>>15368310
Well yes, but not quite. The plausible but not really that plausible narrative that some cling to (well other than the faggot here who is claiming the IPs don't match for whatever reason or the handful of people who say it was her sister or someone in the same apartment block) is that it was someone who noticed the leak, spoofed her IP for about a month, then brought it to public attention, or someone else found the same leak and did the same (it was just a "view page source" and ctrl+F it was particularly incompetent from the blog and not exactly requiring a skilled hacker).

>>15368044
IPs are visible on 2ch, it depends on the thread or board, Sio got fucked because note.com was coded by monkeys, and one guy found out that you could see the blog owners IPs by just checking the page's source code. Then they realized that it matched with some shitposter from the Sio thread that was shitposting every single person she collabed with, including girls from dot live, Fubuki, Pekora, Luis Cammy, Naraka, Amamiya, Maimoto, Tenkai Tsukasa, Inuyama Tamaki and etc.
But the final nail in her coffin, to kill any doubts left, since some people were dubious that her IP was really leaked, was that the fucking official note.com twitter acc apologized to her publicly about the leak.

https://twitter.com/note_PR/status/1294242554792173568

>>15368617
>suicide rate in Japan is out of control
Stop listening to American bloggers who live in Japan on JET visa.

>>15356849
>>15357350 is the correct answer

>>15368617
>Faggots like you are why the suicide rate in Japan is out of control
t. mutt

>>15372100
The fuck does that matter? America is a third world shithole as well.
Just because burgers off themselves more doesn't mean it isn't out of control, you dumb fucking weeb ass cretin.

Hey I'm not that huge on vtubers but can someone give me an overall summary on why people hate Kiara?

>>15366577
>Huh?
that is your only reaction?
Whenever i saw /vt/'s fuckery like antis/tribalfags/schizo shitting up and makes me mad, i will just reminder myself that enstars fanbase is just worse! so i can kalm and enjoys /vt/'s shitflingings!

>>15361796
I don't think her fanbase like her through enstar
Suisei loves all idol media (probably push the gachikoi line when she was younger) and enstar being one of the most successful male idol franchise naturally draws her in. She also grew up with an older sister who loves BL's and also loves Enstar, which is fujobait. I have no doubt that Suisei is at least of a bit of a closest fujo as well.

>>15373437
based?

>>15373938
>I don't think her fanbase like her through enstar
Of course i know that, because instead became her fans, enstarries became antis of her for a nothingness than a nothingburger. She might as well a full fujo too but she can mask it pretty well done.

>>15374340
I'm sure majority of the enstar anti's were never a fan of her in the first place. I don't see how enstar and suisei fanbase can overlap much.

>>15356556
Why is Kanae and Gundou so hated?

>>15361973
Didn't his youtube account get shot down by cover?

>>15357755
Miko and Pekora are also friends but as you can see parts of 35ps and nousagis hate on the other.

>>15373938
If you're an enstar fan the hatred actually logically makes sense to be worse, because such hatred and seething against Suisei is inherently based off jealousy. It's the exact reason for Ayame hate on this board, but times 10, because now its schizo fujos, against now two successful women who have made it to the point they can create a professional song that's a loving homage to the series you love, while you're a worthless fujoshi otaku whose life amounts to nothing. Suisei especially, since she is a reminder of everything you are not. She is a reminder of what hard work does. No matter how much hate you throw you can't even make her seethe or flinch, she disregards your opinion as if your filth of the earth. Which you are. Not even the series creators care for your opinion, they side with her. You are powerless, completely. She has everything. Suisei is a star while you are a worm. That's why the enstar fans hate her. Because they have nothing else.

>>15357118
Didn't Kaneki kun fuck Ayame shiny and pissed off the fujos?

>>15375615
You are making me love Suisei more

>>15373437
I hate Enstars too but stop using fucking Twitter terminology you stupid sister. And learn English.

>>15356556
>Matuli
>Suishit
Now this is based

>>15376448
How do you feel about sharing hatred for Suisei with fujoshis, suichizo?

>>15356646
anstar fujos are still mad about that song she did with toko
roberu fujos maybe?
some chinks still mad at her too
and her usual jealous antis

>>15376816
Probably just Enstars fujos

>>15376616
I don't care, all holos should be on that list anyway

>>15356556
>sample size: less than 100
Damn.... I'm sure all of them are shaking with their hundreds of thousands of subs...

>>15374885
More voters than on Narukami's poll.

>>15367122
Counter-point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FDSHfwd60w

>>15368044
Lmao, blind. できない。