/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>15357285
It's a slow day anonchama please andastand. The only retard I won't respond to is the pako one as I had that filtered

>>15357285
>Thinking people won't biting bait on a fucking Monday
You have too much optimism anonchama

Today my kneel is dedicated to
>Haachama
Got a bounty of numbers by pandering and self box pushing.

I can't think of a better reason to kneel today

>mrbeast
Korone got featured in a 57M viewed video by a channel with 86.5M subs
https://youtu.be/PKtnafFtfEo?t=278

Nijikeks btfo
>uncle roger who?

I will never forgive the chinks

Pekora's graduation coming soon

>>15357434
If Youtube Rewind (The one made by YT themselves) is still alive, do you think VTuber will get in one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxp-wV4wXwc
The absolute gigastacy that is Sasaki Saku is playing the whole of BDSP non-stop, edging towards 10k now

>>15357458
Based, another 500k ccv stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTg4BPwmc4

>>15357521
Fuck no lol. You're underestimating how niche this hobby is

>>15357542

>>15357560
It's not fair... Nijibros.

the fact that chama fucking usurped the spotlight from pretty much everyone else you might think about dedicating something to coco makes me kneel

>>15357595
Luna smells, Panda love.

>>15357422
Leeched better then the Queen leech herself Kanata. Truly the Strongest....but not as strong as the King who, don't everyone forget, got Nijisanji a Back to Back gold. Something you Holocucks said would never happen in 1 billion years

>>15357560
For a declining branch, they still get animations. I guess animators and artists are always behind the curve. Kek, these kids need to go outside to learn what the trend is right now.

>>15357521
>If Youtube Rewind (The one made by YT themselves) is still alive, do you think VTuber will get in one?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, for fuck sake, I think they didn't even put Pewds and he was the most subscribed Youtuber, and instead put some faggot midgets that were likely being fucked by Silicon Valley executives

>>15357689
VTubers are closer to faggot midgets than Pewds in global eyes, so there is hope

>>15357542
>edging towards 10k now
kek, that's just sad, Ibrahim was getting twice that with Pokemon

number of 10k streams:
>11 Holos
>3 Nijis (all collabs)
touristsanji...

>>15357623
Wut? Nijisanji got back to back a week ago, two at most, with that midget 3D debut that won the day on a technicality because Fubuki started her stream 3 minutes before midnight

>>15357689
Like Markass Brown? (still funny that Will Smith couldn't be bothered to learn how to say his name)

>>15357689
Pewds didn't give them a permission to use his content there. or am i wrong?

>>15357560
Ah, it's from that Giantess fetishist that made the Hololive Kaijuu wars.
>Top 5 videos are all Hololive, well over 1 million views
https://www.youtube.com/c/AliceMagic/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid
Jeesus.

>>15357542
Pathetic. Couldn't even get half of Fubuki's numbers.

>>15357732
>VTubers are closer to faggot midgets than Pewds in global eyes, so there is hope
Maybe if Kuzuha accepts being pegged by Susan then fucked by a handful of SV fags, there is a chance

>>15357560
>council
ngmi

>>15357764
I'm surprised this literal slut didn't get canceled.

>>15357623
Go back

>>15357560
Fans reflect their oshis. Nijis will never get fanworks on par with this unless they stop pandering to seanigs.

>>15357843
Kek, if it makes it, are you going to kneel?

>>15357794
Didn't he get passed for YEAR before he got pissed at them?

More than that: his videos usually OPENED with 3M views in the first few hours, only for some 15k "friends of the clique" videos to be #1 Trending.
At very least one thing have to be conceded to Youtube: they never claimed the "Trending" carousel was algorithmic, so they can curate it as hard as they can.

Here is an example from 2019
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/29/18642833/youtube-trending-coffee-break-pewdiepie-late-night-sports-highlights

>Using data scrapped from 40,000 videos, the study found that creators, like Logan Paul, need to reach about 11 million views on a video before it hits the Trending section.
>Comparatively, segments from TV shows like The Tonight Show only need a couple hundred thousand views.

>“No matter how often [Paul] uploads, he’s a lot less likely to trend frequently than someone like ESPN, whose barrier to Trending is about 500,000 views,” says Stephen, who goes by his first name and ran the study for his analysis channel Coffee Break.

>The difference is vast — Paul trended four times over the roughly 18-month period that Stephen scrapped data from, while ESPN trended 85 times.
>Stephen noticed something similar for channels that YouTube’s internal system categorizes as news: 95 percent of news that appears on Trending is from traditional media.

At hours like this i feel bad for Nijisanji again.
Lamy watching Akira is beating out everyone event for Sasaki's super event playthrough.

At least Kuzuha won the day, but on the long run it's still looking bad.

>>15357766
>3 Nijis (all collabs)
Believe it or not, this makes it sound better than reality.

1 of them is Nijinoon, a variety program on the main Niji channel where they miraculously bundle a few livers (1k to 10k) together into a 25k+ stream.
The ones today are a few of the most popular ones so it got 34k.

The other is Kuzuha + nijibros 3D stream. There's a higher chance of the apocalypse happening tomorrow than a Kuzuha 3D stream getting less than 10k.

Saku might get 10k with her pokemon stream tho.

>>15357560
kek, Alice Mahou is the patron saint of vorefags and gigantism fags

>>15357796
Reminds me of the guy who does the 3D skits.

>>15357970
It's as expected. Seanigs are mostly asleep by now. Nijisanji's fanbase is dying. They need new blood.

>>15358026
Good numbrs for his Kiara Christmas

>>15357924
Instead, Niji gets more quality works with less degeneracy. Niji is for high class society only.

>>15358094
Like their merchs?

>>15358026
At least Kanauru still has his 11 year old dance videos with similar views.

>>15358094
I don't know about that. Last I heard, they've banned fanworks because the jews there hate their community.

>>15358094
>Niji gets more quality works with less degener-
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>PAGING NIJICOEP ANON
Here is one more for the list

>>15358163
Wasn't that because the site was trying to pander to China and it just so happened that Nijisanji had a Yab 2 weeks before?

>>15358163
Uh, there is no Jews in Japan dumbass.

>>15357970
At hours like these I feel bad for anon again.
He spent hours coming up with a shitpost and this is the best he could do.

>Fubuki is winning against Pewds

>>15357672
>LMAO the cope
nijishit will never get this quality of animation

>>15358094
>Niji gets more quality works with less degeneracy
Yees, that's why they still have a higher percentage of R-18 work despite not getting as many fan works anymore.
>nijisanji (92)
>hololive (88)

>>15358094
Hahahahaha nice joke sisters

Ready for the next level numberfagging anons? the C99 is in a few days, let's see who gets more doujins

>>15358316
>Holo:niji
Will be 10:1

>>15358316
Idk man
Someone reg as a circle does not mean they ill sell doujins

>>15358316
that should be interesting

>>15358316
No one cares about niji

>>15358316
Someone did a breakdown of the table space, and it split in favor of Holo by a decent margin.
Now, how many of those will be r18+? And how many of those will get UPLOADED to Panda? Those are the questions a man of culture must research, yes yes.

>>15358387
Hey that's blatantly false. Some of the doujins they get are pretty hot. Also, this is the first real Comiket since the lockdowns started and vtubers blew up in popularity.

>>15358411
Because Niji has their own convention already with hundreds of thousands of visitos, so they don't have to put so much effort in Comiket. Holo, on the other hand, has to rely on puny Comiket.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>65,631: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>45,098: Kanata (Hololive)
>34,072: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>30,791: Fubuki (Hololive)
>30,692: Marine (Hololive)
>26,983: Haachama (Hololive)
>26,732: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,963: Miko (Hololive)
>19,979: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,225: Calli (Hololive)
>14,509: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,798: Laplus (Hololive)
>12,155: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,781: Leos (Nijisanji)

A very skinny one, compared to the recent juggernauts

>Selling Niji Doujin

>>15358475
>Because Niji has their own convention already with hundreds of thousands of visitos, so they don't have to put so much effort in Comiket
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>PAGING NIJICOEP ANON

>>15358500
11-3 in favor of Hololive. Absolute domination.

>>15358277
Actually, since i'm at it
Pixiv numbers:

>Nijisanji 128,433 Works
>R18 Nijisanji 12,697 Works
damn good stuff, very degenerate too

>Hololive 175,946 Works
>Hololive 15,560 Works

Niji 9.88%, Holo 8.84%

>>15358475
And I did the numbers for what was provided. If you assume all of what was registered for the niji event are going to be separate from what's going to appear in c99, the split was better, but still fell in favor of Hololive. I can go digging later for the posts when I'm bored.

>>15358316

>>15358316
isn't holo already winning just based on the number of registered circles?
also, isn't niji antagonized artists with dlsite yab?
i expect holo to sweep this.

>>15358500
>12,798: Laplus (Hololive)
not even cunny can save valorant

>>15358500
Wow. Nijisanji has grown so weak. They can no longer chart if it isn't a collab.

>>15357924
maybe they can ask corporate to stop going after fanwork creators, they went around striking down clips awhile back and then there's the recent doujin thing. No wonder they don't get any good fanworks.

>>15358182
It's already covered under blatant lies

>>15358500
back to normal I guess

>>15358568
>10 times more talents
>Less arts
nijiKeks

>>15358500
>Leos 10k
What went wrong?

>>15358533
sorry, once again, it's already covered under
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies

>>15358580
maybe if she gets a full holo stack.

>>15358580
nice excuse

>>15358580
They should play csgo instead

>>15358580
that's pretty good for valorant, she might actually be the biggest valorant streamer by that metric.

>Patra ASMR only 11k
guess this is gonna be a weak week outside of special events

>>15358741
YT? Maybe. No way if you include twitch.

>>15358772
Post christmas holiday funk, affects everyone

Why are holobronies trying so hard to downplay Niji gold? They must've been really cocky thinking Kanata would get it easily.

>>15357732
Well the animator community get their own segment too so there is hope for Vtuber
But I don’t know if it will be Hololive, it would probably be indies since they are easier to work with, no bureaucracy like corporate Vtuber

>>15358741
Valorants just an awful game to watch, FPSfags need something new if APEX isnt coming back

>>15358589
Kanata had Mori, lying holobrony.

>>15358657
And what artable talents they have.

But yea, it's all been in the last 1.5-2 years that the takeover happened. Nijisanji used to be way ahead of everyone.

On a western site, danbooru, if i remember right it was 1.5 years ago that Hololive passed Nijisanji for the first time, at around 9k for both.
Now
>Hololive 66k
>Nijisanji 20k

>>15358580
I told you cunnyfags you have to grind and be good at a competitive game to get good numbers from it

>>15358725
Kek, not even its own pros stream this game. It's dead Jim

>>15358901
Your king couldn't even beat Korone's solo concert 70k with guests

>>15358316
I've been keeping an eye on toranoana for this recently, and there's not many from either holo or niji. This is still preliminary of course, but unless the ratio of vtuber/non-vtuber stuff changes drastically, it looks like it'll be pretty disappointing.

Unfortunately, this isn't too surprising- there aren't many holo/niji doujins on panda in the first place (at least compared to the giants like fgo or touhou).

>>15358687
Wdym? It was an Oliver collab and they managed to hold 9k while Kuzuha was streaming his event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gUOEeJ3P2Q

>>15358901
Holofags here, I'm happy that Kanata didn't get the gold.

>>15358094
>Niji
>quality works
>less degeneracy
thanks for the keks anon, but it's time to take your meds

>>15358949
>Mori's song voice appeared
It's a collab! I swear!

>>15358901
>>15358949
>>15359024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBjPG7oxqFU

>>15358526
are there actually Xianxia manhwa?

>>15359080
Not bad fato cato

kek

>>>/jp/37900855 numbers

>>15359022
I mean, part of that has got to do with the fact that there hasn't BEEN a Comiket since vtubers started running amok in popularity, but the other is...there's less abstraction between vtubers and animated voice-acted characters. Probs makes it a tad bit awkward for some artists to get REALLY degenerate with some of the stuff. Note 'some', as there's some pretty fucked up stuff out there already for vtubers, so....
Yea, I'd wait until mid-late January once people have gotten around to scanning and uploading their goods before I'd start attempting to numberfag that shit.

>>15359187
How about Ayame?

>>15359227
The survey that derailed /hlg/ today.

>>15359227
Anon, >polls are not numbers.

>>15359187
>Gura 28hrs
>Still gets 80k subs

How does she do it?

>>15359227
>User made polls
>/jp/
Kys

>>15359187
kek, to think every single one of those tree hours had to be MANUALLY cycled by the FUCKING CEO himself!

>>15359291
By being basic.

>>15359291
Bots.
And she used to get 300k

>>15359243
>How about Ayame?
16 hours, by my account.

>>15359187
Does this count collab and members only streams?

>>15359376
apparently not
>>15357247

>>15359376
Hours streamed count for the channel, not for the streamer. It is not "hours worked"

>>15359326
Hate this CEO attention whoring bs. I respect Riku more than Fagoo since he's not as much of an attention whore.

>>15359376
It needs to count tree-chan's collab too
https://youtu.be/0hxBLvnii1Y?t=2931

>>15359376
It doesn't, which is why for those that collab on other people's channels a bunch, the 'hours streamed' can be a tad bit flawed. If you did go around trying to correct for that though, it'd just be a giant mess of a headache, so it's just important to keep a mental note of that when looking at these hours.

>>15359446

>>15359418
Which is hilariously retarded for something like Hololive. But then again, the audience is normally not privy to this, nor is the algorithm... those don't care if you're somewhere else.

>>15359517
>Selling his own merch
Cringe

>>15359446
oh that reminds me I need to make a yagoo thread on the catalogue

>>15359517
Disgusting. Imagine working for this fag.

You know, as much as people like to pretend that Council is some colossal failure, you can very reasonably argue that Kronii has obtained the 3rd most enviable numbers in EN, and Mumei is starting to enter a conversation for 4th. Granted Bonebros are still firmly untouchable, but people overstate the power of Myth outside of its top 2 and understate Council’s top 2.

Ike current stats.
No competition from the other homos right now.

>>15359446
Anon, Cover's CEO is a living meme. He at least gets afforded to be in on the joke once in a while.

>>15359517
Who asked for this?

Here is the table for hours streamed in December 2021.
For branches and companies it is the average per streamer.

Five comments
1) JP average is 56 hours per streamer, EN is 52 hours, ID is 40.
2) JP6 average is 96(!) hours
3) Ayame has more hours this month than Aqua, Suisei and Korone
4) Fubuki has 129 hours, Koyori follows her with 121, Lui 120, Watame 118, Aruran 114 (seems to be slacking this month), Chloe 104 and Flare 101 for the full roster of 100+ hours
5) Even with Haachama, Mel, Aki and Matsuri being in the absolute bottom of hours streamed, Fubuki alone carried JP1 to outrank EN2

>>15359621
Apparently RIku's a bit of a meme on the jp-side, but that hasn't really translated over to EN since there is no 'Coco equivalent' bridge between NijiJP and NijiEN, so...

>>15359592
>monetization
>$1,650
Why are you so poor nijisisters?

>>15359517
>>15359326
>the marks are running the business
cringe

>>15359592
That's what pandering to underaged seanigs gets you!

>>15359621
I recall this is after Riku did his "3D debut".

>>15359644
>Ayame has more hours this month than Aqua, Suisei and Korone
>psst anon, its time to kneel...

>>15359672
Sorry, they've already emptied their wallets of their allowance on streamlabs.

>>15359644
>Ayame has more hours this month than Aqua, Suisei and Korone
This won't do, she should take a break.

>>15359585
Anon, we already know Myth is hard-carried by SHAAAARK while Council is hard-dragged by BEEEG. The middle is more or less a matter of streaming buff content for you.

>>15359621
>H-he's a meme! He's so cute! Fuck my oshi please!
You are all redditors

>>15359644
Mumei is the only bird that didn't get above 70 hours streamed so far.

>>15359671
The major problem is that the yagoo meme is something that both sides of the pond individually worked to create, thanks to it being spawned from a stream moment that both sides of the pond watched. This is different from the Riku meme which is primarily a thing spawned from jp twitter and so it's not something that the EN side of the fanbase would have much familiarity with.

>>15359738
Nooo not the magic word. How could I ever cope from this

>>15359738
>projecting
Yeah, you should go back there since you're so good at fitting in.

>>15359644
>only 114 hours
Aruran was really doing his idol reps this month.

>>15359716
not difficult considering that Suisei streams only for 1 hour, Korone was on break and Aqua is basically focused in her idol reps

>>15359738
I swear to god the only times reddit is brought up in this place it's by a tourist trying to fit in.

>>15359517
LMAO this is the most cringe thing I've ever seen.

>>15359727
Streamlabs is the new merch cope?

I kneel

>>15359982
>FBK gaining those subs through perseverance and hard work
I kneel

>>15359780
At the same time, she’s the only college student to get above 40 hours.

TICK TOCK PEKO

>>15359812
>>15359830
>>15359860
I see I've struck a nerve. Worship of CEOs is retarded.

Now that the dust has settled and speaking of HoloX, what is the revised holo tiers that you give to gen6? Mine are:
> Laplus: previously shion tier
maybe a bit stronger, seems miko/subaru tier, if not doing retarded content like valorant
> Lui: previously towa tier
didnt change
> Koyori: some gamers tier
now I think she specifically closer to Mio - not too strong on solo, but goes well with anyone on collabs
> Chloe: previously rushia tier
didnt change, but with a bit weaker views and a bit stronger sc
> Iroha: previously watame tier
the one i got wrong the most, shes definitely stronger. Something like kanata to idol aqua tier

Pakora about to be fucked again by Friend

>>15359982
fuck I kneel

>>15360024
jeezas i didnt realize she was that close

>>15360027
>Completely missing the point
Kek look at this retard

>>15360024
Mio gave Fubuki a shiny Clefairy so that's one less shiny hunt.

>>15359621
> Who asked for this?
> meanwhile under every single merch that Yagoo models for : "does it come with a free Yagoo?"

>>15360027

>>15360103
so whos left is ghastly/gengar and... who will the last one be? Still Feebas?

>>15358261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8ETkPpkc4

>>15359982
>>15360024
FUBUKING IS THE ONLY KING!

>>15360131
Yeah but Yagoo is actually likeable and doesn't look like a fat greasy nerd.

>>15360029
>La+
I'm seeing sign of early Festival
>Lui
Will be low tier like Aki/Mel/Choco
>Koyori
Between Lamy and Botan
>Chloe
She will be Coco replacement, sc-wise
>Iroha
Either end up like Sora or Subaru. Can't tell.

>>15360171
>Oct 16, 2020
kek, talk about reliving the glories of the past.

>>15360131
That's it, anon. You're almost there.

>>15360215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0L1cyGBuKI

>>15360171
Man. I remember this. It had a ton of creators make their own manga and animations from that single Nijisanji Imaginary Tournament. Good shit man and the use of The Ambroid was just the best

>>15360262
He's good but compare this
>what you post

>>15359671
> Apparently RIku's a bit of a meme on the jp-side, but that hasn't really translated over to EN since there is no 'Coco equivalent' bridge between NijiJP and NijiEN, so...
Imagine being so ignorant over nijisanji. Tazumi has been a meme on western english fans since 2019, and now with NijiEN it has been even more with how the girls talk about him here and there at least a few times per week be it seriously or as a joke.

>>15360215
The only other Niji animation on that channel is 7 months ago with 7.4k views.
>>15360262
>Kanauru
98% of his uploads are Holos, it's not proving your point at all.
Stop embarassing yourself.

>>15360262
>>15360328
With this

People are clearly discussing "quality animation" and what you post is very bad, even coming from a great animator it is clearly shit

>>15359805
Imagine being so ignorant over nijisanji. Tazumi has been a meme on western english fans since 2019, and now with NijiEN it has been even more with how the girls talk about him here and there at least a few times per week be it seriously or as a joke.

>>15360347 (me)
Animation uploads incase you're including his dancing shit

>>15360029
>Lacunny: Subaru tier
That's kind of insulting to Shuba, pic related

>>15359805
I don't watch Niji, but I remember how the Yagoo meme came about and spread, let me just check if my memory serves -

> some time in 2018-19, Subaru misreads 谷 with onyomi "Ya" instead of "Tani", leading to "Tanigō" becoming "Yagō".
> Yagoo went with the meme and named his twitter to YAGOO (which still remains to this day).
> Yagoo started to catch on in EN sphere thanks to regular Asacoco jokes at his expense.
> Most famous one being the AKB48 interview which got memed to hell and back thanks to the contrast between "idols" known by EOPs and ""idols"" as presented by hololive (at the time).
> Many mentions by holomem of him always smiling, his smiley face also gets memed.
> Fanart of Yagoo with the stubby limbs gets made (can't recall if this was featured in Asacoco, but it probably was).
> Minecraft Yagoos everywhere, girls reacting to it --> many clips (including one where they blow up Yagoo as part of "resistance").
> "Hello everyone"
> "Sou desu ne"

and then he just became a staple of hololore.

What did King Riku do to get himself memed?

>>15360378
>on western english fans
Anon, plz stop embarassing yourself

> and now with NijiEN it has been even more with how the girls talk about him here and there
It is clearly in their contract, along with "Nijisanjification"

>>15359241
I agree with most of this, but this:
>I mean, part of that has got to do with the fact that there hasn't BEEN a Comiket since vtubers started running amok in popularity
is not an excuse. While doujin output does seem to be down (I haven't looked at the numbers for this, just a feeling from looking at sadpanda), there are still new doujins and there are still events going on (even if they moved online). Some concrete numbers from panda:
COMIC117: 77 results, no nijisanji/hololive
COMIC119: 22 results, 1 nijisanji/no hololive
Air comiket 2: 132 results, 2 nijisanji/no hololive (unfortunately air comiket 1 is unsearchable because "AC" is under the character limit for searches)
Air comiket 3: 29 results, no nijisanji/hololive
These are japanese only numbers to weed out double counting from translations.
Even if you look at it as a proportion of doujins instead of by absolute numbers, there are still not many vtuber doujins.

>>15360333
Go to sleep riku, you try to force it too much

>>15360029
>La+
shion tier sounds good i agree with that, i cant really see her maintain subaru/miko numbers in the long run
>Lui
polka tier
>Koyori
watame tier
>chloe
nene tier
>iroha
mio tier

Suisei that high although she doesn't stream that much...

Kiara...

>>15360439
>Fanart of Yagoo with the stubby limbs gets made (can't recall if this was featured in Asacoco, but it probably was).

iirc, Riku made that meme but I could be wrong lmao

>>15360572
>Kikkerikicking
That's a debuff title if I ever saw one.

>>15360496
No one cares about her streams but about her music

>>15360439(me)
how could I forget pic related

>>15360496
she's like mori in the sense that people come for the music, she has a fuck high median too though

>>15360588
>Riku invented the super deformed character style
Man, Nijiniggers everywhere must be loaded up with gold medals in the mental gymnastics event.

>>15360430
Subaru was a 3view for 2 years before she inclined

>>15360588
yeah and nijisanji invented vtubers too

>>15360446
Yes, twitter didnt exist and discord don't exist, neither does youtube. Seriously, you guys are so ignorant of the nijifanji fanbase outside of 4chan it's hilarious.
The fact you think it's on the contract of the EN girls is amazing as well, just shows how you people don't actually consume their content.

>>15357285
>>15357320
can you post better girls at least

>15360628
Check her numbers and try again, retard

>>15360496
Suisei was the fastest growing JP for quite some time before Marine came back and before Fubuki started trashing everyone else.

>>15360675
And why the fuck are you comparing the Subaru from then instead of the Subaru from now

>>15357924
Alice has drawn Nijis in the past you fucking retard

>>15360750
because where gen6 is in 6 months isnt how they are now? most people thought iroha was going to be irrelevant after debut and theyve already been BTFO

By the time we are all old and gray and /vt/ is entering its dying days the NijiCOPE list will go down as one of the greatest modern works of all time. A document of such scope that it will be right up there with the Holy Bible in size and importance.

>>15360024
Man no one actually saw this coming. Wonder if this will motivate Pekora to try again or it’s already too late for her

>>15360450
Yea, that's fair enough, and I attribute that to the second point, that vtubers are close to actual 'people' than simply voice-acted characters, and that probably dances a bit too close to the line for some. Like, drawing your oshi getting railed? Gotta cause some mixed feelings.

>>15360773
Idk, I'm not a fortune teller. I compare current numbers and cunny is not Shuba tier

>>15360572
As long as she maintains her shitty voice settings/mic/chicken voice, she'll continue to languish outside of events/collabs. I cannot stand to listen to her long-term, and it makes enjoying her pretty much impossible.

>>15360628
At least in the early days in Hololive, people knew she was a good singer but she was a streamer and a gamer first.
NCP and Saga Jihen changed that but quite a lot of her fans are still from that time.
10k for a gaming stream is still the norm.

>>15360496
1.3M subs range is a blood bath.

You guys argue about Riku and Yagoo but this type of joking around started with Iwanaga.

10 hour HoloEN karaoke relay (Gura is the only one not participating) on Friday.

>>15361068
Lazy fuck

>>15361068
who said that? Kiara?

>>15359733
Council is hard-dragged by Sana, Fauna, AND Bae. Myth’s “runt” is Kiara, but for what she lacks in CCV she makes up for in SCs. Fauna and Bae put up Kiara tier live stream numbers (Sana even worse than Kiara tier), but Kiara makes more SC money than all of them combined.

>>15361068
>Gura not participating
Sigh. WHY, GURA. WHY.

>>15361068
Lazy shark

>>15357856
And what exactly would she be cancelled for?

Anyone interested in Niconico numbers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sx36ZVGag4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQb_VVpep0E

>>15361068
>10 hour HoloEN karaoke relay
>>15361164
>Lazy fuck
>>15361175
>Sigh. WHY, GURA. WHY.
>>15361181
>Lazy shark
Isn't she coming back from a respiratory disease? (cold? flu?)

>>15361068
Never ceases to amaze me how hard Gura tries to demolish her numbers.

>>15361068
>Gura not participating
What in the fuck

>>15361175
>>15361181
>>15361164
>>15361068
Covid

>>15361222
She's currently got a fever, and she was SUPPOSED to do a christmas Karaoke, so unless her current fever has progressed to something worse like a cold/flu that's gonna fuck up her ability to sing, I'm not sure why she wouldn't participate in the relay.

>>15361203
>Under 2k views on Youtube
>Under 60k views (on the high range, for Toya video) on NicoNico
YUCK!

>>15361068
>friday
Does JP has a collab or something on that day?

>>15360496
Does FBK have a chance of beating Mori to 2M subs?

>>15361283
>>15361294
My bad then, get well shark

>>15361283
If she actually fucking got Covid (not omnicron) from her family visiting? Worst. Christmas. Present. Ever.

>>15361305
Depends on how long Pokemon permissions last. 3 more months of this and maybe

>>15361203
these are the only numbers i know about niconico, seems like its advertised(?) or something i have no idea

>>15361305
If she can maintain her growth then yes.

>>15361342
Should have taken the vaccine, the second dose, the booster and the pill, and the mask too

>>15361203
Well... those edits were pretty shitty.
And the numbers were low.

Get out.

>>15361296
Lolichad is very popular with Otomads apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl4LI8CA1Jg

>>15361240
>>15361068
She is sick again anon.

I'm more surprised a relay is even happening.
Has this promoted ahead of time?

>>15361347
it expires around mid january according to flare irrc

>>15361374
11m with that few comments and likes? Seems legit

>>15360917
>Miko
current success suggests higher profile but subs still stunted due to her failure as an "indie"
>Haato
dead schizo subs
>Ina
propped up by strength of Myth genmates
>Suisei
fucked over by the INNK stint, lots of music only subs
>Kiara
REALLY propped up by Myth genmates
>Okayu
natural

>>15361442
I think someone said a few days ago that chicken is organizing EN relay.

>>15361305
A chance? Absolutely. The likely outcome? No, I’d still place my bets on Mori.

>>15361458
Another pokemon release tho. They'll probably get permission for those too

>>15361486
>Okayu
>natural
t. Onigiri

>>15361500
yh Arceus seems to be late january, but unless there is some sort of gacha in game i dont know if she can milk to so much

>>15361489
they should sing while practicing for mariokart so they dont get demolished in the tourney. Deliver this message to them, Risu!

>>15361442
Gura gets "sick" every two to three weeks. That's not how the human body works.

>>15361442
She came up with the idea 2 days ago during her members only.

>>15361486
>Okayu
>natural
She leeched off of Korone

>>15361669
then its no surprise gura hasn't responded

>>15359644
Why is laplus streaming so much less than her genmates?

>>15361068
>>15361175
Damn the 2 top Blue woman just keep missing out on all the numbers

>>15361570
she'll still be able to shiny hunt in that game

Update

>>15361649
It's winter anon

>>15361570
If Arceus follows the same shiny rule as Sword and Shield then it's probably easier. Unless she goes for square shiny.

>>15361717
takes two to tango

>>15361797
i think you are missing a verb

>>15360801
Peko's sub growth is stagnated cause clippers get their 1 meme peko clip of the day from her stream and ditch some of the actually funny shit

>>15361841
dumbass

>>15361841
I takes two to scissor

>>15361726
No supa readings

>>15361912
that's not a verb

>>15360917
Amazing how Subaru is behind all these and hardly growing in subs despite being arguably a top 5 holo

>>15361945
sure

>>15358203
>The King of deadsubs

>>15361945
Your ESL is showing

>>15361892
There should be other ways to boost your sub instead of relying on clippers? I trust Pekora will be able to come up with something if she really have to

>>15361945
fucking retard

>>15361997
>>15361977
>>15362022
dumbass is not a verbI was joking

>>15361548
I'd actually say Okayu is the most baseline average holo to judge from a numbers persepctive
shes not exceptionally talented in any one area, her existence isnt a meme/flanderized, she collabs up and down the popularity scale, hasnt had an extended menhera break, her gen doesnt really exist, she plays a wide variety games without generally clout chasing trends etc
shes basically where you should be if you joined the company in the middle and put in a modicum of effort without taking an extended break
>>15361717
eh, there are 10 holos who'd qualify as host material for leeches, if you havent latched onto one as a straggler thats on you at this point
okakoro subs also arent dead subs

>>15361778
Does revenue mean that this is after the 35% youtube cut?

>>15361969
i really dont understand her incline because the sub stagnation makes it clear there was no meme or outside presence that caused it
was it the less tomboyish outfits? the EOP friendly zatsus where she makes up narratives about other holos? just having a consistent streaming schedule as lots of other holos burned out? some combo of all of the above?

I'm going to assume Gura won't stream again till 2022. That puts her at 14 streams for november (40 hours total) and 12 streams for december (29 hours total), only counting public streams on her own channel. Basically 3 streams per week for 2 and a half hours on average in the last 2 months.

Jesas.

>>15362018
Well, she seems to be on the same train of mind, apparently at least 2 big things she has planned next year outside her pokemon tourny and her birthday, maybe that'll give her some different publicity compared to what clippers portray her as

>>15362137
Okayu is very average in a lot of ways sure (not in a bad way really) but she just got her 11th cover to over 1 million and two of them are close to 10 million, I haven't counted but she might well have more views on her music than anyone other than Mori and Suisei, that's sure not average

>>15361486
>lots of music only subs
bold statement, considering her tetris and other gaming streams are routinely breaking 20k.

If there's one holo with lots of music only subs, it's mori, not suisei

>>15362369

>>15362546
Why are music only subs considered a bad thing? It’s honestly a more respectable method of sub boosting than clipper baiting.

5 EOP subs are equal to 3 japanese subs.

>>15362784
Because this thread worships at the altar of CCV and will spazz out when you remind them holos are not pure streamers

>>15357196
What the hell is a becky

Income for the first monetized stream and weekly streamlabs
minimum total income is 5634
>2434

>>15362827
Change EOP to Myth. Kronii out-CCV’s plenty of JPs that have more subs.

>>15362983
Those JPs with fake EOP subs.

>>15362983
>muh subs to CCV ratio
Ah, a nijiniggerEN in disguise

>>15362018
Biggest sub draws are big events and music

Pekora didn't really have a big event focused solely on her for like a year and half (since her birthday last year was scuffed enough to be privated, and her outfit got delayed for a year and a half). And she doesn't really make much music,

She seems to have made dancing lessons a more regular thing compared to just learning choreography for whatever concert she's invited to, if she takes up voice training or whatever to sing better she might get out of this sub rut she's in

>>15362369
Listen, I like Gura a lot but that is just unacceptable. If she is the only one who doesn't take part in the karaoke I feel that might be her Ayame moment. The Ayame hate really kicked off when she was the only Holo not to send Miko a welcome back message.

>>15362827
The full calculation is 3 JP subs = 4 NA subs = 6 yuro subs = 7 spic subs = 10 seanigger subs

>>15363423
her lungs are literally infected, anonchama

>>15363477
We don't know the extent to which she is sick. The only publicly available info is that she has a fever and that she cancelled her stream yesterday to try and sleep it off.

>>15363451
this is just sad

>>15363477
Do you really believe?

Is it accurate to say that Ina's CCV to VOD views ratio is unusually high

>>15363739
Why are Takos like this
t. Ikadachi

>>15363739
Depends on what you want to do with that information. But normally, those aren't directly related, even more so the longer a stream goes.

Fubuking's numbers are lower than her Magikarp streams

>>15364116
She caught a shiny already. The novelty's gone. A drop was to expected. Most of the ones who were there stayed until she caught one so they could go "I was here".

>>15361726
No supa readings, she does twitter spaces a lot, and also roommate account at least an hour or two a day it seems.

Also probably being punished and forced to clean for once in her life after Iroha/Koyo saw the absolute hovel she was in.

>>15364019
I want to determine whether it's generally true that her views come from a relatively smaller pool of viewers who more consistently catch her live

>>15364809
You would have to analyze streams over a period of time repeatedly to determine whether or not they have consistent VOD relative to their CCV.

>>15364116
It's 4 AM on a weekday in Japan so I would say 20 - 28k is impressive

I'm having trouble finding the SC list for yesterday and the day before, help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTqzg3_tl0M
Gura lives.

>Another unscheduled Karaoke
Gura please...the numbers..stop debuffing them

>>15364116
If anything, the fact that she kept the bulk of numbers for this gimmick is impressive. Though I must say, and I know this isn't numbers related, japs are fucking retarded for enjoying this type of "content"

>>15365416
i predict scuff

>>15360701
they didn't invent vtubers, but they did invent Hololive.

>>15365689
Hololive was founded first. What are you on about?

Reimu...

>>15365901
Wasn't she a former mod of Kanae?

>>15360439
>What did King Riku do to get himself memed?
By paying people to meme him

>>15365854
Cover yes, Hololive no.

>>15365416
I see she was reading the critisism we were giving her here. Don't ever think you can't influence the vtuber world my numbers bros.

>>15366040
I've seen stranger things

>Baelz SC that high
shamelessly leeching off everyone around her wasn’t enough she nows pander to koreans too

>>15366035
Hololive was founded in 2017 in December, Nijisanji was founded in 2018 in February.

>>15365854
yes, but Niji established the basic formula. (which Hololive then improved on.)

>>15366219
Wut? Hololive popularized the streaming format, superchat reading, and ARK which was all copied by Nijisanji. In fact, Kuzuha even acknowledge Coco even against the behest of his management.

>>15359187
meanwhile Watame has 115 hours

Dominance.

>>15359517
Yikes

>>15360831
>>15360750
I think he meant overall trajectory, not current numbers (a lot of which are very similar, which would make it pointless to select a specific member).

>>15366435
Kiara has been slacking off this month. Please understand.

>>15366347
Never happened, Tatsuschizo.

What's been the verdict on the effect of NijiEN 4 on previous waves so far? Have we seen any significant changes anywhere or is everything mostly status quo with the men mostly having an independent audience?

>>15366435
Very impressive
How's her median? Her album? Her songs?

>>15366993
Only time will tell. I don't think a week is a good sample size. So far it looks fine, the audience overlap is almost nonexistent despite what NijiENfags made us think.

>>15366347
>streaming format
No, nijisanji popularized the streaming format, as well as Live2D
>superchat reading
Hololive invented zatudans?
>and ARK
Both companies started playing in ark at about the same time. As soon as the nijisanji began to play it, the interest of their audience did not fall to it and they still sometimes open the server for a certain time.
And nijisanji also popularized minecraft.
>against the behest of his management
Source: my ass?

Ah yes I remember it 4 years ago when streaming didn't even exist, since Nijisanji hadn't invented it yet far over at Japanistan

>>15365901
Update.

>>15367377
Still has her hearing.

>>15362983
Her CCV are actually quite lower than most of Myth(except Kiara) if it isn't another MC stream. In fact Fauna beats Kronii in average CCV AND total views in the past month.

>>15368160
lol.
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCO_aKKYxn4tvrqPjcTzZ6EQ
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCmbs8T6MWqUHP1tIQvSgKrg

>>15367377
>Can't hear you

>>15363385
Are new outfit debuts considered events?

>>15365901
It's so funny how you shit on Reimu when she gets lower than 1k, and now that she's constantly getting over 1k (when she's not overlapping with someone) you still shit on her LOL it's just never going to be enough

>>15365938
yeah she was. Kanae knows her PL too so that's why according to the other Niji EN they've been talking in calls a couple of times.

>>15368716
Reimu pay attention to your own stream stop browsing this board

>>15368716
Did you forget you were in a collab, Reimu?

>>15368716
>Nijien incline
look at these numbers LOL
>Holoen decline
T-they have pretty good numbers, just a little lower than usual.

>>15368930
Because inclining 500 views when you're a 500 view streamer might be doubling your audience but it's still just 500 fucking views. If Pekora lost 10k today and was henceforth a 20k average streamer, doesn't mean Niji is on the rise and will soon destroy her

>15368930
>numbers in your head
>quotes in your head
>reactionsin your head

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1475573058354176003?t=eHIHmGjKC1o07oAh551y6Q&s=19

Looks like Gura is in after all. Numbers saved

>>15369144
>Numbers saved
Depends on timeslot

>>15369144
how many times has chicken jumped the gun at this point?

>>15365133
Anyone? hello

>>15369169
Well, regardless of where she is on the slot having their heaviest hitter doing her buff content (karaoke) will definitely help. Considering most of their slots are already locked in according to Kiara streams the options are:
At the very start (unlikely, too early for gooruh)
Taking over half an hour from Ame who had double the amount everyone else did (most likely, willing to bet Ame had double just because they were expecting Gura to join later and made a with/without her contingency)
At the very end (unlikely, but the numbers coup de grace)

>>15369411
hello

>>15369571
did she state when it would start and end yet?

>>15369260
Uh, never? She just had a random idea for an event that she wasn't even sure was going to happen and "announced" it during a guerilla superchat stream like 2 hours ago, nobody except majorly overactive schizo's would have taken any notice of that.

>>15369627
I need daily SC

>>15369699
Nothing solid yet

>>15369778
Anon she made a whole fucking logo for it and included every single icon but Gura's because she couldn't wait for a bit more. She is a rrat breeder.

>>15369881
>Anon she made a whole fucking logo for it and included every single icon but Gura's because she couldn't wait for a bit more
Yes, what's the problem here? That Gura's lazy? Everyone knows that already and Kiara needed to announce it since it's only a few days away.

>>15369881
You give far too much attention to the mentally ill, stop letting shitposters on 4chan trick you into thinking their opinions matter.

>>15369827
>>15326429
>>15273214
Open wide and merry Christmas anon

>>15369063
Meant for >>15368930

>>15357196
I actually forgot about Kaf's concert. Is it already on nyaa?

looks like its niji gold till late january - february huh

Also speaking of SC holy crap Kanatan, this is her highest earning stream ever and 34th on the all time-chart, her 4th entry in the top 50 which is the second most of anyone after Coco with 5

>>15368360
Playboard is highly inaccurate but nice try Krontard

>Sasaki above holoX collab
jesas

>>15371416
are you blind?

Some Vshojo members were on a show with like 70K viewers from one of Twitch's big streamers recently and it seems it has led to some incline.

They are coming for that EN vtuber crown and with Gura being in "tummy hurt" mode it seems that they are going to get it.

>>15371772 (me)
The show was on the 20th btw.

>>15371829
It's just the Gothic buff.

>>15371772
>>15371829
View number is so low. Seems like a lot of off tabbed viewers. Vshoujo seems to have plateau their CCV growth. Whenever they get a boost, they'll lose them in the coming months. Don't you get bored of comparing them with HoloEN?

>>15371772
>>15371829
i watched like an hour of the show, and honestly it might be an incline just for vei and snuffy from horny viewers, but im open to being proved wrong

>>15371918
lol

what was Asacoco timeslot back then? Is it the same as Koyori morning show / radio?

>>15367377
The best in Hololive
The best in singing history
^

Lapu helped limp Mayo-chan over 10k but this show is not gonna last
Holos really need to stop stealing reddit dragons ideas, they cant do them better

>>15372269
it was 6am JST, so an hour earlier than asakoyo

>>15372355
If she's willing and able to put in the hours it's literally free views, she's not going to kill off a regular show because muh median

>>15371918
This time is not only a boost anon, they made it into one of most popular cliques on twitch and they are getting clipped alot, so they gonna start inclining from now on, thats how twitch works.

>>15372740
>they made it
she has 11k right now which is still on er normal numbers.

Mansanji...

>>15371918
>views are low
pretty sure thats just how twitch works, most people dont watch vods there

any 35k+ holostreams today that can beat this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKEVbMqtYw4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bIhtx8jRlY

>>15369699
Here ya go. Looks like Mori and Irys got the primetime

>>15373290
>Ame in the second to last slot
orange woman learned nothing from the schizochama xmas epsidoe, i guess

>>15373365
What's there to learn here?

>>15372968
> manjisanji
> the one with more views is sasaki

>>15373290
>Sponsored by KFP
Why is she like this?

>>15369144
Numbers saved? But she's the last one? Is that good?

>>15373673
MeMeMeMe desu

>>15373132
well, gotta wait for JST primetime
or.. maybe Gura... probably
i want to beleb

>>15373700
In a relay, yeah, I guess. Its New Year's so people are awake a bit later, but might also be at parties by that point/shitfaced.

Poll up on Kiara's rebroadcast, classic 5 min/100%+ engagement rate

nijisanji noon show numbers

What went wrong with Project Hope? At this point just scavenge the resources you'd put into Irys' songs and pour them into Mori/Gura.

>>15373673
She's the only one organizing these types of events. I hate the MEMEME too but either we put up with it or HoloEN basically will never do a full collab because nobody would try

>>15374001
releasing a song on christmas is retarded.

>>15374031
La creadividad...

Kiara with 2700 watching with 4000 votes at 10 minutes. Always interesting

>>15374081
ok ame is an oversight on my part, but VRChat is her type of content. I don't think she'd organize anything other than VRChat or maybe Minecraft.