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>> No.15294883

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

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>>15294855

>> No.15295115

https://youtu.be/oKQNuVORdPQ
Damn Hololive seem so small compare to the general streaming industry. But granted streamers on Twitch spend their days streaming and do nothing else

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Someone post Previous year MK numbers

>> No.15295624

>>15294936
Everyone's in the other thread for some reason

>> No.15295785

>>15295624
That's the real bait anon

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>> No.15301404

>>15301373
why is this so hot

>> No.15301439

Made for rape correction desu

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>https://youtu.be/9vQUwcON838
Pure SOVL

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>>15303814

>> No.15303885

>Shiny hunting another pokemon that can't be chain shiny'd
That numberrot is affecting friend.

>> No.15303894

>>15303734
Went back to check archive, it was indeed the onion who came out with that idea. Honestly that was far more entertaining than the main tourney.

>> No.15303942

>>15303056
Why is she getting disliked? You don't actually believe she was having sex on Christmas and not crying herself to sleep in bed do you?

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kneeeel

>> No.15303957

>>15303844
>>15303814
>>15303639
I have always wondered, which manga are these images from anon-sama

>> No.15303964

>>15303942
Stop being a samefagging schizo and/or ignore the stupid extension user.

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>>15248472
Took the data from this chart for HoloJP, sorted by % and color categorized into four tiers.

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>> No.15304017

>>15303957
It's from some twitter artist. Forgot the name tho

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>>15303942
shut the fuck up and never post here again

>> No.15304034

Schizos schizos go away...

>> No.15304040

>>15304010
is that the power of dick?

>> No.15304053

Holobros don't look at Mysta numbers, i'm worried about your mental health.

>> No.15304061

Back to Holos getting 100k+ total ccv while the whole of niji is at sub 50k. Well until NJU anyways.

>> No.15304076

>>15303969
>Suisei
>gachikoi baiting

>> No.15304084

>>15304034
and come again another day? no thanks

>> No.15304085

>>15294855
Who?

>> No.15304117

>>15295116
https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1342802376646774787

>> No.15304158

>>15303969
What's the point of this? These numbers are implying that if anyone gets membered this member stays eternally (and then there's also a case of ARS memberships)

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>>15304053
>>15304061
>samefagging
>falseflagging

>> No.15304212

>>15304040
is mostly the power of horror games, until dawn is a really good streaming game

>> No.15304220

>>15304085
https://youtube.com/shorts/LbAfAwCGHS0?feature=share

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>>15304187
>schizoposting

>> No.15304229

It is still climbing but oddly low numbers for gen 2 when subaru nene aqua got higher numbers...

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No one really cares about niji except for event huh

>> No.15304290

>>15301875
Iroha picking up a lot more members now on her aftertalk stream, 500+ so far

>> No.15304293

Bros i am worried about Ayame.
She streamed 7 times this month (8 if you count the members stream)

>> No.15304300

>>15304158
Fair point, I guess at the least it can be viewed as their ability to get individuals to open their wallet for them at least once for a month, regardless of whether that wallet continues to remain open. It does line up with certain expectations one would have with regards to certain members at the least (i.e. Ayame, Lamy, Matsuri)

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Yeah boiii get that 7k again

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Watame close your eyes...

>> No.15304405

>>15304323
so only mysta wont be a sub2k liver.
dissapointed in voxx performance. looks like only one person will be able to break records. Assuming he can keep going.

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Promising number

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>>15304405
Vox need to stream Sea time if he want 5k+

>> No.15304540

>>15304457
he did today and yesterday but still struggled
at least he got more money today but isnt that much considering he just open SC.

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>>15304405
3.5k reading superchats during MK
Mysta and Vox are close, idk what are you talking about

>> No.15304615

Dang fbk and duck got 30k a piece.

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>>15304601
Actually, he got some funnel from MK at the end. His peak was 3080 before it ended. Still a good number though. Chloe gets less than that reading scs.

>> No.15304664

>>15304290
Iroha picked up 627 extra members from 30 min aftertalk stream for a total of 4808 day 1 members

>> No.15304669

>>15304601
what do you mean close?
Until dawn the 2 aprts got 7k and his minecraft hardcore got 8k ccv
he is way over voxx and unlike voxx he hasnt showed signs of recline

>> No.15304681

Hololive has terrible numbers today. Pekora and Miko sub 15k, Marine sub 25k and full gen 2 collab cant reach 30k. What happen? Sunday is the buff day in Hololive but today seem different.

>> No.15304694

Yagoo can you buy the company that own leona please. [Just watch her 3d]

>> No.15304742

>>15304405
Donation readings don't get high views, hell it's impressive how many viewers he had while reading him.
>>15304669
Tbf he was at around 5.5k before Vox ended his stream, so he probably got some additional people coming in from vox.

>> No.15304779

>>15304669
>he is way over voxx
Did you miss Luxiem collab? They were neck to neck.

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Kanata 10k get for anniversary guest announcement

Mori as guest, more to come

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predict the number

>> No.15304868

>>15304681
Well Pekora peak today is 24k

>> No.15304887

>>15304681
Holo viewers just decided to have offpako between themselves today instead.

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Holocart is going to destroy this right?

>> No.15304912

Anime mv!!!! Kanata!!!!!!!!

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New orisong

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>>15304840
Kanata announced a new song too for tomorrow after the stream

>> No.15304934

>>15304906
Y-yeah, totally.

>> No.15304935

>>15304212
Obvious cope.

>> No.15304940

>>15304924
She buff herself hard.

>> No.15304946

>>15304840
80k. It depends on guests

>> No.15304947

>>15304906
240k is the total of all stream?

>> No.15304966

>>15304912
Wonder if it's going to be actually animated or irys-tier animated.

>> No.15304977

>>15304946
Mori

>> No.15304987

>>15304912
She rich.

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If you call yourself a numbers fan, today's Niji MK tournament looked pretty good.

Numbers are pretty good for this hour too.

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Kanae just hit 900k. Will he take advantage of his 1m better than Kuzuha? Kuzuha pretty much squandered the celebration.

>> No.15305002

>-34%
>-30%
>-30%
>-42%
>-32%
>too weak to get 200k ccv

>> No.15305024

>>15304966
She's saying it has the most motion of any Holo MVs, meaning more than Unison even.

>> No.15305025

>>15304977
>>15304831
>3d live
is mori going to be a cardboard?

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>>15304947
250k+ I think

>> No.15305037

>>15304991
Niji without tourney is sad af.

>> No.15305043

>>15304991
Watame...

>> No.15305044

>>15304906
No

>> No.15305067

>>15304906
No, because it's at a garbage time for numbers for JP.

>> No.15305115

>>15305025
either she doesn't appear or yes, cardboard.

>> No.15305119

Stop replying to urself.

>> No.15305128

>>15305035
Looks just a tiny bit below 250k to me.

>> No.15305132

>>15305025
Gonna be a 2d screen, probably.

>> No.15305142

>>15305001
IT happened a few hours ago, possibly on stream, but doesn't look like it had any impact then
>>15301288

Kanae's smarter though, he should take advantage of this some way.

>> No.15305163

>>15304906
Easy.

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Mysta already reached his Until Dawn numbers from 5 days ago.
Permanent debut buff?

>> No.15305176

>>15305043
Yeah, people won't believe me that her numbers keep going down.
>Her hours are 0-6AM
She's not getting 10k anymore in those times either.

>> No.15305208

>>15305164
As I already mentioned some time ago, NijiEN never had a debut buff, except for first couple of streams from Lazulight.

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>> No.15305233

>>15305128
http://3.144.182.25/records.json
>nijisanji:249344
This thing is updated every 15 minutes though so might be not the most accurate peak.

>> No.15305247

>>15305164
Mysta is a pleasant surprise from wave 4. the rest of them though...

>> No.15305271

>Miko cuts her losses and did her announcement to <11k viewers
mikoti......

>> No.15305278

>>15305164
nah is only a really good streaming game. im more surprised more EN havent tried it. it is short, good for commenting , some scares here and there and the story is stupid enough it is entertaining.
Is a chilla game for the west. The sequels arent as good.
i would still wait a week to judge

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200k ccv doko?

>> No.15305284

>>15305164
Wait till 3 week, i mean look at kuzuha 2 number nowdays.....

>> No.15305314

>>15305227
>2k for mentizxation opening
tsk that is low

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>>15304906
>>15304947
>>15305035
from http://3.144.182.25/
according to some anon the peak seems to be 260k+ but as this is only polling at every 15 min, 250k is the recorded peak

>> No.15305345

>>15305314
There's no monetization buff for NijiEN. They get a ton of donations via streamlabs early on.

>> No.15305355

>>15305282
>-34%
>-30%
>-30%
>-42%
>-32%
>too weak to get 200k ccv
Just wait for Pekora's or Gura's graduation stream if you want 200k that much.

>> No.15305357

Edengumi did pretty well for the first month and then keep declining until they stabilize their numbers.

>> No.15305367

>>15305314
That's not a "mentizxation opening" tho

>> No.15305387

https://cover.lnk.to/agape
https://cover.lnk.to/MyNameIsElite

>> No.15305391

>>15305345
not every fuck is gonna give his/her credit card info to sreamlabs. Most people just use SC.
>>15305367
what did he get when he opened it?

>> No.15305416

>>15305355
>too weak to get 200k ccv
Indeed, yearly niji tourney could only get 130k top

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>>15305314
>2k for mentizxation opening
1,5k for monetization opening. But before that he already had streamlabs and did not arrange any events regarding the opening of SC, he just opened monetization.

>> No.15305437

>>15305357
Arguably, they just kept declining till December when the whole company inclined again.

Seasonal Nijisanji is no myth.

>> No.15305488

>>15305355
The fact that people defended a 30% decline so much in this thread was quite funny.

>> No.15305524

>>15305391
https://playboard.co/

>> No.15305527

Mysta 8k. Impressive.

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so gold contenders tomorrow will be Kanata 3D vs Kuzuha 3D

how are kuzuha's 3d numbers? basically 0 overlap for kanata on that timeslot.

>> No.15305559

>>15305419
that is still way low.

>> No.15305669

>>15305551
3d niji without 3d debut buff is bad. Depend on the guest for both.

>> No.15305697

>>15305527
That's a collab

>> No.15305710

>>15305551
Hololive will cheat with 0 overlaps, Kuzuha has very low chances

>> No.15305714

>>15305669
Since kuzuha is no.1 in niji he should be lol then again mel...

>> No.15305722

mysta has shu on the call so that is why is higher than last time. he entered when he had 7.4k
still good for mysta and the game seems a buff overall.

>> No.15305753

>>15305314
>And people think sea women are rich
Kek

>> No.15305766

>>15305559
Are you retard? He received a huge amount of donations through streamlabs, which could be part of the first monetized stream. The known amount is 2714$, but we will never know the exact figures earned during this time through streamlabs

>> No.15305768

>>15305669
then i wish Mel does a surprise appearance just to keep the meme going.

>> No.15305805

>>15305697
He was at 7.4k before the call started, that's great by Nijien standards. Looks like Sana will be below at least 1 Nijien now, kinda sad not going to lie.

>> No.15305813

>>15305710
It's fair enough
Holols' ILLEGAL on Blue leech vs #1 Silverboi (former KING)

>> No.15305823

>>15305697
He was 7.8k before Shu joined

>> No.15305843

>>15305710
good, kanata deserves it after gorilla gripping her 30k during relay with 30k overlap with Holo main channel.

>> No.15305864

>>15305714
>>15305768
I wish Mel does a surprise appearance on both Lives, while streaming Apex with kson.

>> No.15305863

>>15305697
This is a guerrilla collab that started recently.

>> No.15305867

>>15305766
everybody has streamlabs and selene still opened with 3.5k on SC. Fucking rosemi did the same as him with 1/3rd of the numbers and she also didnt do a menitization stream.

>> No.15305904

>>15305419
Lol 1.5k??????

>> No.15305908

>>15305805
I think Mysta could end the month Above Half of HoloEN.

>> No.15305915

>>15305805
i dont think he will keep them but poeple here think he will for some reason. Is pretty much another debut fogging peoples vision or memory.

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>>15305867
Vox is above Selen in merch btw. That's why he got less superchats.

>> No.15305961

>>15305722
>So Mysta is Gura of nijien?
By acting loves being bullied
Vox had best opening but he's just too boring
and he will only decline from now on unless he keeps reading thirsty tweets every stream

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Mysta is absurdly popular. 8.4k used to be what full-branch collabs would get. Mysta just casually gets this on a random horror game stream. I think he's going to be the first to break 10k

>> No.15305970

>>15305908
Anon, he could be in the top 10-20 for all Nijisanji if they get back to streaming to under 2k numbers after this tournament.

>> No.15305972

>>15305867
They didn't even get half of what Vox got through streamlabs.

>> No.15305980

>>15305908
Sadly true, nijicucks will be insufferable if that happens.

>> No.15305984

>>15305964
he is in a collab

>> No.15305989

>>15305948
Wow, boys finally got into top 2 positions? If I remember correctly, they started at 4'th and 5'th positions.

>> No.15306018

>>15305964
untapped potential being tapped!

He's ahead of Kanae again btw
>8,176 watching now

>> No.15306028

>>15305964
Well, as long as he's content with having an audience of SEA yume/fujo + whatever assorted dudes are up, then all the power to him.
I wanna see what kind of numbers he pulls on different hours of the day, for comparison's sake.

>> No.15306034

>>15305908
Probably, but not this month, because HoloEN had quite a lot of buff streams this month - outfit streams, holiday streams, etc.

>> No.15306058

>>15305984
lol no he's not anon. Nijisanji often visit each other's streams like this, it's not a "collab". If it was, he would have advertised it as a collab on the video title.

>> No.15306059

MYSTA, THE PRIDE OF NIJIEN

>> No.15306067

Ah~ don't you love when the sea fucks is sleeping right now?

>> No.15306085

>>15305984
>>15305823

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>>15305964
ENTER ManjisanjiEN

>> No.15306103

>>15305984
If it really was an official collab with only 1 pov, he would get 10k+

>> No.15306127

>>15306067
Nah, it's the holidays, all of SEA ain't asleep yet.

>> No.15306135

>>15306058
>2 people are on the streams
>is not a collab
a nigga i dont give a shit if its an improv collab, is still a collab and when shu leave his numbers will reduce too

>> No.15306146

>>15305915
It's because most nijiens had zero or very close to zero debut buff outside of the actual debut stream so people think that Mysta will be similar. Regardless, Sana is barely above 3k right now, it's unfortunately doable for him to surpass her if she keeps like that.

>> No.15306178

Today's PeBoToRu percent decline compared to the first collab a few weeks ago:
Towa: -18.4%
Pekora: -37.6%
Botan: -44.7%
Rushia didn't stream either time.
Pekora may very well be reclining right now, but then what's the explanation for Botan reclining even more?

>> No.15306187

>>15305970
>>15305980
I know, but it's an achievement for nijiEN and fun enough it had to be a man,
>>15306034
I think he still has a chance but let's see the end of the month table when it comes.

>> No.15306194

>>15306135
Anon I can hardly name a single nijisanji stream where they don't visit each other in chat or in call. It's completly common in nijisanji. In fact hololive started copying this recently with the girls often dropping by each other's streams. Pretty much blatantly copying what nijisanji does

If you consider this a "collab" you are basically considering almost every nijisanji stream as a collab.

>> No.15306217

>>15305355
And Niji is too weak to maintain said 200k during normal days, your point

>> No.15306254

>>15306178
You guys are delusional if you think big part of hololive audience wasn't watching niji tournament today

>> No.15306255

>>15306034
>but not this month,
Have you looked at Sana, Fauna and Bae numbers this month?

>> No.15306268

>>15306146
i think he will surprass her this month
but people are just gonna get called out next month when he reclines. like with holox and edengumi

>> No.15306278

>>15305964
NijiSEAnji...

>> No.15306289

No archive rap stream from Mori with only 5k viewers... recline is merciless.

>> No.15306292

>>15305948
ManjisanjiEN I Kneel...

>> No.15306327

>>15306289
>Rebroadcast

>> No.15306344

>>15305164
Most debut buffs last around at least a week before starting to fade, anon, and generally they take another week or two before completely fade away
That's not to say that Mysta is doing very well in NijiEN standards, but it's too early to say how well he will fare without debut buff (or if there is a debut buff)

>> No.15306350

>>15306289
is a rebroadcast anon

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Bruh moment

>> No.15306371

>Vox ASMR
Not even 2k
>Mysta playing horror games
8k

What went wrong Vox bros...?
We thought he's the best in this gen...

>> No.15306379

>>15306217
My point is that Niji has audience to do 200k+ stream on 1 channel. Holo does not, as they have to kill (graduate) one of their members to do so.

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>15306194
>In fact hololive started copying this recently with the girls often dropping by each other's streams

>> No.15306399

>>15305164
how badly is yagoo scrambling to get holostars EN out of the door asap?

>> No.15306400

>>15306344
I'd say there is one.
Debut buffs are directly tied to hype and tourists, and right now there's quite a bit of hype around Vox and Mysta. Doesn't seem to be much for the other 3 so I'd argue that they'll settle where they are (maybe -10/20%)

>> No.15306414

>>15306289
Based ESL

>> No.15306420

>>15306255
That's not a half, and both Fauna and Bae had some high number streams too.

>> No.15306442

>>15306398
It's not because they actually had enough people with overlapping timezones for them to start doing it reliably with council, nope, not at all.
It's totally 100000% copying Nijisanji.

>> No.15306460

>>15306357
Oh no no no Kanae bros not like this

>> No.15306556

>mysta just lose 500 views out fo nowhere
??

>> No.15306559

>>15306357
Suisei, save toko already, please.

>> No.15306584

>>15306556
bots getting culled, regularly happens on NijiEN streams

>> No.15306589

>>15306254
The point is Pekora's relative decline compared to other holos. If not streaming on Xmas eve really harmed her that much, why did Botan decline more?

>> No.15306604

>>15306379
anon, we only have reliable concurrent viewer data for entire groups since yesterday. too soon to declare that holos can't muster 200k+ without graduations

>> No.15306614

>>15306556
Based Susan culling the bots

>> No.15306640

>>15306379
They can lol. They just don't do it like niji. The sportfes can get 200k easy without overlap only 1 channel..

>> No.15306701

If Holocart can't get concurrent 200k they are officially below Nijisanji.

>> No.15306709 [DELETED] 

>>15306556
I can't even see the graph for the stream, very odd, but its probably just some hype moment ended and they've left, or susan being susan and the viewers will come back up. I doubt there's anyone stupid enough to bot him when he's already doing so well...

>> No.15306710

>>15306371
>Not even 2k
He read the same thing as on the first ASMR

>> No.15306747

Holly shit kiara 7k wtf?

>> No.15306768

the year's about to end, do we have a year-end medal tally? that should be interesting

>> No.15306774 [DELETED] 

>>15295116
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XH1hPKc-RczTbDCilbQ3C4HJCySwHDN8W7o0T0KZsZA/edit#gid=224210193

>> No.15306781

>>15306747
Unarchived Karaoke, but I can't stand her voice/sound settings so I'm back to listening to friend attempt to get a pink ghastly.

>> No.15306783

>>15306701
towa doesn't seem to be too good as an organizer so i don't think they will, i'd love a surprise though.

for now tourneys are Nijisanji's domain.

>> No.15306792

>>15306604
>>15306640
Damn, so many anons need their reading reps...

>> No.15306820

>>15306556
they are using the same botting service Kiara uses and the views are being counted on the most recent stream

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>>15306556
>>15306584
>>15306614
Seems like a normal drop to me. This game has a lot of boring parts. He must've been in a hype part.

>> No.15306857

>>15306556
>Mysta starts screaming
>500 come back

>> No.15306859

Why do some people say Vox is a pedo?

>> No.15306885

>>15306556
Wasn't out of nowhere. Seems pretty steady drop to me, probably following whatever moments are happening in game you nonce.
>https://vrabi.ml/video/80LP7_t00FY

>> No.15306891

>>15306859
some guy on twitter spread the rrat and no one here watches Niji so newfags keep biting bait.

>> No.15306901

>>15306792
maybe you should do yours. my point is, you can't definitely say that holos doesn't have 200k+ audience to pull for non-graduation streams when there's no one counting the whole audience numbers until yesterday

>> No.15306912

>>15306859
Fucking based if true!

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>>15306843
Yep. If you wanna scream BOTS, THIS is what something utterly fucky looks like.

>> No.15306945

>Miko's special project only got 13k
Is this normal for her?

>> No.15306947

>>15306768
Nah Hololive won all the months except Koshien month is not that exciting.
The interesting thing should be who won the most gold and what numbers of gold each streamer has.

>> No.15306972

>>15306932
Whose is this?

>> No.15307001

>>15306901
You are embarrassing yourself, clown. When you are told to do your reading reps, do what you're told.

>> No.15307033

>>15306901
NTA, but he said "200k on ONE channel", so "the whole audience" number, spread over multiple channels, is meaningless until there is proof that they would gather into one channel if there is only one

>> No.15307061

>>15304906
no, its at 1pm jst at a friday, thanks to towa

>> No.15307110

Yagoo, quick, graduate Kanata to beat Koshien numbers!
Because you can't beat it any other way kek

>> No.15307115

>>15306972
This was Ike. He's had two streams with utterly fucked looking graphs like this.
>https://vrabi.ml/video/R8HNXhEAK8A
>https://vrabi.ml/video/d-fL-VOmIFA
I've not seen any other fucky looking graphs like this since though.

>> No.15307133

>>15307110
Lmao, true

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>>15306945
> -50%

>> No.15307166

>>15307061
>Holocope calling their own MK tournament "unofficial" and "Towa's" because it wasn't on the group main channel when they lose to Niji's MK tournament by far coming soon...

>> No.15307179

>>15307110
holy cope, numbers are numbers. this is the numbers thread

>> No.15307190

>>15307115
Has a crazy fan connected k-pop bots?

>> No.15307198

>>15307001
>My point is that Niji has audience to do 200k+ stream on 1 channel. Holo does not, as they have to kill (graduate) one of their members to do so.
No you fucking retard, get out of your ass and read what you wrote
>>15307033
you are right, but the way he puts it seems like he talking about the potential audience to dip into

>> No.15307222

>>15307110
So who niji need to graduate no beat coco number?

>> No.15307225

>>15307150
To be fair, comparing small-mid size events width overlapping viewers is not that interesting. What's more interesting is big events with little or no overlapping.
Speaking of which:
>-34%
>-30%
>-30%
>-42%
>-32%

>> No.15307252

>>15307179
At least Niji can get high numbers without killing their livers. When is Holo going to beat Niji's repeatable event record?

>> No.15307254

>>15307190
Non-zero chance, but since I don't think we've seen any other weirdness like this, either they got the picture that that shit's going to get absolutely culled and have stopped it, or some other weird shit happened to cause these numbers.

>> No.15307258

>>15307222
Mito, Kanae or King

>> No.15307282

Why do people think that Holo needs to specifically beat one single event stream? Is this bait?

>> No.15307283

>>15307252
you're still coping bud, this is the numbers thread not the cope thread unfortunately. get 491k then come back okay?

>> No.15307294

>>15307225
She was overlapping a lot of people last time too,
retard

>> No.15307312

>>15307222
Kuzuha's graduation would reach 700-800k easily. Niji don't have any need to sacrifice their livers for numbers, though

>> No.15307330

>>15306442
Nah, Kiara said that Myth, for some reason, had the idea to keep collabs formal and proper, so they avoided doing impromptu collabs until Council debuted and gave no fuck about that shit and just did what they wanted, Myth then followed right after.

>> No.15307337

Yagoo will graduate at least 1 Holo each year to beat Nijisanji.

>> No.15307343

>>15307252
NTA, but did holo has only one POV whole company event other than new year?

>> No.15307344

>>15307282
OF COURSE IT'S BAIT!
How new are you?!

>> No.15307358

>>15307282
>Why do people think that Holo needs to specifically beat one single event stream? Is this bait?
They don't. Absolute record so far for single stream is Coco with 491k.

There is this NIJICOEP that this doesn't count but it's just that

>> No.15307359

>>15307312
You still need to beat coco number tho.

>> No.15307384

Why are nijisisters coping? Didn't they win today?

>> No.15307387

>>15307198
Your seethe level is extraordinary. It's so large that you became delusional and lost any ability to think logically. You are in no competence to stay in this thread.

>> No.15307391

>>15307330
Well, this is what I get for not watching Kiara.
That's one thing council did right at least, no need to keep things all formal all the goddamn time for that sorta thing.

>> No.15307401

>>15307252
She is still alive ano. Why is it possible to calculate the number of debut live streams but not graduate live streams?

>> No.15307411
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>being proud of having the second highest CCV
Nijiniggers never cease to make me laugh

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>That don't count!
>But this does!
Nijinigger.

>> No.15307417

>>15307222
Nobody would beat Coco but Mito would be the biggest

>> No.15307429

>>15307312
Ah yes the "whataboutif" cope.
If Gura graduated it'll get half of her subs as CCV watching.
See how pointless your post is?

>> No.15307441

>>15307198
>>15307001
>>15307387
wait, did niji koshien 2021 broke 200k? Sorry I was out of the loop this year, in that case I kneel. I was being a retard

>> No.15307462

>>15307384
You are the one coping with graduation numbers. Admit Hololive is unable to get concurrent 200k.

>> No.15307468

>>15307411
Why did you use a niji pic to laugh at niji?

>> No.15307470

Stop coping.
Coco > Koshien > Gura > Pekora > Niji MK

>> No.15307482

>>15307359
True, but beating it without graduating anyone would be much more impressive and extremely humiliating to holokeks.

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>>15307468
Selen has a very good and smug laugh! That fact also serves as some salt to rub in their wounds

>> No.15307495

>>15307462
Sure, if you admit that Niji is a tourist central and all those views vanishes overnight as their 3 views keeps being 3 views after an incline on their tournament.

>> No.15307504

>>15307462
numbers thread: big number > small number whats so hard to understand?

>> No.15307515

>>15307001
This place is the last place authoritarian views will be welcome, fuck off dicktater

>> No.15307544

>>15307384
because holofags can't kneel for their lives

>> No.15307546

>>15307441
Yes, NijiKoshien 2021 broke 2020 record

>> No.15307552

>>15307491
you're not realling helping your case if you're using a nijipic...

>> No.15307566

>>15307441
It did, ya dummy.

>> No.15307567

>>15307482
Welcome to number thread no number no win. Nijisis your are too funny.

>> No.15307569

>unironically being proud that a vtuber left your company
This is next level holocope.

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>>15307569
Sorry anon, this is the numbers thread.
>Big number > Small number
>491k > 2x 205k

That's the truth of this thread. You can cope however you want tho

>> No.15307618

>>15307544
B-but i'm holofag and kneel poster too anon, what do you want from me?

>> No.15307627

And your entire Company lost to a lone rabbit. Try compare daily top instead of embarrassing yourself harder.

>> No.15307637

>>15307569
i can hear you crying from here nijisister-san, just kneel to the bigger number

>> No.15307662

>>15307546
>>15307566
mea culpa anons, I stopped watching vtubers after the start of jp shitfest in summer 2020 and only recently returned (watching only Ui now). Didn't know all the latest happenings

>> No.15307673

>>15307569
Graduations are meant to be happy events, anon. Coco moved on to the next stage of her life / career and parted way with Hololive in good terms. She still loves Hololive dearly and there isn't anything wrong with that.

>> No.15307677

>>15307222
Mito probably. They already tried with Gibara and Lulu which didn't work out, and they just started streaming on their own.
But Mito graduating would probably just end Niji altogether, kinda like what would happen if Sora or Fubuki graduated from Holo.

>> No.15307751

>>15307673
c
o
p
e
Your black company took a shit on Coco and left her to rot in the equivalent of a punishment room, isolating her from EN and stonewalling her projects.
SAY IT WITH ME!
BLACK!
COMPANY!

>> No.15307761

>>15307627
It's the last time ever that Pakora is going to mog someone. She will never get gold again after that fated day.

>> No.15307797

>>15307751
Yeah, that's why Kson spent a lot of her own time and money to sue people to defend Cover. Must have been brainwashed or something, right?

>> No.15307807

>15307761
Uh, when was the last time Kuzuha got gold?

>> No.15307843

so we can assume it's holo's gold until next year?

>> No.15307893

What happened to those 400k?
Hololive can't even reach concurrent 200k now.

>> No.15307915

>>15307807
Silverboi showed up in tournament stream so it basically is his gold. KNEES NOW, HOLOKEKS

>> No.15307921

>>15307544
How new? Numbers threads are full of kneelposters

>> No.15307925

If you're just going to try to cope with your smaller numbers just get out of the numbers thread

>> No.15307944

>>15307843
Yep, this year is already a lock to holo. Probably next year too, depends if myth or holox gets a 3D

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>last day: 0
>last 7 days: 0
Pakorabros...

>> No.15307979

>>15307751
At least I can still see old Coco content. Where can I see old Lulu and Gibara content?

>> No.15307989

>>15307751
just like how anycolor axed yumenographia without telling them?

>> No.15308011

15307955
rent free

>> No.15308022

is anyone even replying to the seaschizo at this point?

>> No.15308028

>Niji wins the day
>Niji shits on Holo

>Holo wins the day
>EN vs JP assured

Holokeks can't stop losing!

>> No.15308031

>>15307429
over half of her subs are dead
I doubt she'd even beat Coco considering there was no drama or controversy surrounding Gura to make things hit that much harder, she's made very little actual impact on the JP side, and she wouldn't have the "first proper graduation in Hololive" buff Coco had

>> No.15308043

>>15307282
Let the sisters cope man, it's the only thing they have where holo didn't mog them.

>> No.15308066

>>15308022
yes, the seaschizo is still replying to himself

>> No.15308088

Thread is gone to shit. Not even called numbers anymore.

Schizo vs Newfag thread would be better name for this place.

>> No.15308117

>>15307462
493k > 200k
now seethe for me sister

>> No.15308159

>>15308088
this thread is literally a containment thread and is shit by design

>> No.15308231

>>15308022
nah, just him on the laptop, his phone and his roommate's phone.
Unfortunately we will never get post ID which would let us laugh the schizos off the thread easily.

>> No.15308243

Who will be the victim of Yagoo's russian roulette of graduation next year?

>>15308117
200k twice. You can't even get it once since graduation. Cope.

>> No.15308251

>>15307843
Niji should be able to get gold on NY countdown stream too. It was a bit close last year, but looking at this year so far, Niji events have been growing steadily so the gap should be even wider.

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>>15308243

>> No.15308333
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Imagine the mental breakdown Pakora is going to have once FBKing passes her in subs. This was prophetized with a Fubuki image even: https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/15188350/#q15188350

>> No.15308355

>>15308243
thanks for the cope, itadakimasu! tastes good!

>> No.15308379

>>15308243
What's the 2nd time?

>> No.15308425

>>15308379
Koshien and MK

>> No.15308456

>>15307797
>>15307979
>>15307989
Ima be honest, I did this on a lark 'cause I'm bored, but I see why schizos love shitposting in the numbers thread. Kinda felt dirty typing that baitpost.
I'm both grateful to what Coco did and know that all things considered, she got the best graduation she could given the circumstances, even if I'm not entirely enthused by her choice of collab partners after she left.

>> No.15308502

>>15308243
>Who will be the victim of Yagoo's russian roulette of graduation next year?
Realistically no one because Yagoo is too much of a saviorfsg for that. I wish he would graduate Sana, Anya and Iofi though.

>> No.15308509

>>15308425
What, MK didn't break 200k CCV on the main stream.

>> No.15308545

>>15308425
MK is 140k?

>> No.15308558

>>15308011
Meant for>>15307955

>> No.15308585

>>15308333
Fubuki is literally exploiting Japanese gacha addicts while Pekora actually has integrity. See you back at sub 5k viewers when Pokemon permissions expire

>> No.15308646

Realistically, Hololive had several 150k+ streams. Coco grad, Gura and Peko's outfit and 4 debuts. Niji has lesser than that.

>> No.15308708

>>15308585
I like how you are pretty much admitting that Fubuki needs to be nerfed by permission for Pekora to beat her.

>> No.15308709

>>15308425
idiot

>> No.15308777

>>15308545
130k from vrabi for niji main channel

>> No.15308783

>>15308646
I wouldn't use the holoX debut numbers to brag considering how hard they've fallen from it

>> No.15308787

>>15308646
Those don't count

>> No.15308961

Daily Chloe update: Sakamata Chloe now has $243,783 in total superchats and just 16 days after her monetization is the 90th most superchatted vtuber ever. Today she surpassed
>Kakyoin Chieri

>> No.15308994

>>15308961
Do you have a link to the full list?

>> No.15309027

>>15308961
JESAS RUSHIA DON'T LOOK

>> No.15309053

>>15308646
is this the famous holocope??

>> No.15309091

Millie's Marshall Maximizer might be the fastest growing nijien cover.

>> No.15309101

>>15308994
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-total
As far as I'm aware there's only 3 vtubers without Japan as their location who would make the list: Selen and a couple of Taiwanese chuubas

>> No.15309108

>>15305316
Is this all Nijistreams or just Niji Mario kart?
Because I think 250k+ might be higher than their Koshien peak, which doesn't seem possible.

>> No.15309168

>>15308961
Could you please add how much she made in the day? Like 'Chloe made 12k today and now has a total of X, only Z days after her monetization.'

>> No.15309244

>>15309101
You can use a vtuber category instead.

>> No.15309257

Why is hololive so fucking garbage at tournaments, as well as funnelling their viewers to their main channel?

also any matome friends?

>> No.15309259

>>15307797
I'd say that's less about any particular feelings towards management and more about the fact that a lot of these girls working there are her friends. The punishment room talk is an exaggeration and these discussions are always full of bait but at the same time it's pretty undeniable that she was under more restrictions than other members.

>> No.15309331

>>15309257
I know this is THE # thread but hear me out.
>They don't care about number and just want to have fun.

>> No.15309336

>>15309244
That would be incredibly useless since a bunch of vtubers including Chloe herself aren't included in the category

>> No.15309376

>>15309331
what did they do wrong?

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Is it possible for Mysta to mog Kiara in average viewers in the long run?

>> No.15309404

>>15309108
Koshien peak was 255k iirc

>> No.15309457

>>15309403
100% he has actually been inclining with everystream which is not the case for vox and co.

nijisanji struck gold because they got someone naturally funny, with insecurities for savior fags and has the charisma too.

I kneel

>> No.15309517

>>15309457
Stop falseflagging to set him up for grudgepost dunking later on. He's a fine fellow and doesn't deserve it

>> No.15309540

>>15309376
>Towa being the tourney organizer
>Most popular holomems suck at game
>There aren't that many participant for hype
To name a few.

>> No.15309614

>>15309403
Knowing that YouTube cuts holoen viewers in 2 times, he will not be able to beat her. Always double holoen viewers.

>> No.15309629

>>15309404
Yeah, which is why it doesn't seem likely that the yearly MK tournament gets so close. Looking at the viewcharts, the peaks are misaligned so we can't just add peaks.
Surprised no one took a screenshot.

>> No.15309711

>>15309259
Get out. You are being too reasonable.

>> No.15309731

>>15309629
I don't understand why you believe it's so unlikely. Main stream+Kuzuha alone had at least 170k combined.

>> No.15309785

>>15309053
>not the highest CCV, not 100k, SPECIFICALLY 200k
Nijicoep.

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Kiara...

>> No.15309802

>>15309403
It's possible, but he'll need to keep like a 6k average which is double the highest NijiEN before him.

Kiara is kinda all kinds of cursed.
The people in her timezone don't like her, JOPs don't like to watch her either.
She's the only EN member that can't get 10k with an unarchived karaoke despite pulling out all the gimmicks.

>> No.15309820

>>15306399
If there's a ESL Holostars, that would be a big sign for things to come

>> No.15309831

>>15308783
You could say the same about niji ones when they can't even maintain the same amount of interest after their events

>>15308787
>>15309053
kek already coping. Take away major events, Hololive would still come up on top with more than 80k total ccv every JP night.

>> No.15309834

>>15309331
This is it, the tournament only is happening because Towa wanted to play mariocart with her senpai when she was watching hololive do their mariocart tourney before her debut but Miko doesn't really want to organize it anymore so she did it instead.

>> No.15309888

>>15309731
>130000 + 31000
161k, but that was only for a split second until the other streams started and the main stream dropped.
https://vrabi.ml/video/UQrYanCpQRA
https://vrabi.ml/video/Vp422ZDUli0
It peaked at 10pm.

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>130,092: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>44,104: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>35,460: Fubuki (Hololive)
>32,841: Fubuki (Hololive)
>32,299: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>29,261: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,878: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,600: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,304: Marine (Hololive)
>23,587: Toya (Nijisanji)
>20,743: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>20,509: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,739: Chloe (Hololive)
>17,335: Marine (Hololive)
>17,213: Miko (Hololive)
>16,839: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>16,482: Saegusa Akina (Nijisanji)
>16,284: Lize (Nijisanji)
>15,988: Pekora (Hololive)
>15,173: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>14,715: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,614: Nui Sociere (Nijisanji)
>13,978: Iroha (Hololive)
>13,098: Miko (Hololive)
>13,025: Ange (Nijisanji)
>12,670: Mito (Nijisanji)
>12,657: Leos (Nijisanji)
>12,540: Noel (Hololive)
>12,432: Matsuri (Hololive)
>12,374: Ars Almal (Nijisanji)
>12,373: Saegusa Akina (Nijisanji)
>12,218: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>12,007: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,924: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,402: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,017: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,979: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,918: Lize (Nijisanji)
>10,581: Axia Krone (Nijisanji)
>10,496: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,013: Shubuya Hal (merise)

>> No.15309939
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15309939

holy shit this man actually have the highest ccv right now

>> No.15309956

>>15309259
She specifically said "place and people I love", though, not just "people I love".

>> No.15309966

>>15309888
Well if you don't believe >>15305316 you might as well go through every stream and check by hand.

>> No.15309973

>>15309939
kek, and people say "manjisanji" is not a thing

>> No.15309976

>>15309939
HOLOBROS THIS CANNOT CONTINUE!!! AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.15309991

>>15309939
nijiEN found their niche, and it is men.

>> No.15310000

>>15309785
>>15309831
>no u
This isn't kindergarten, holobros

>> No.15310010

>>15309259
>she was under more restrictions than other members
And guess why that even happened

>> No.15310013

>>15309802
Problem is, the reasons people don't like to watch her, she's either too stubborn to change, or its just part of her personality so there's no fixing them.
It's a shame, because on paper she's a near perfect fit for Hololive...

>> No.15310016

>>15309108
all nijistreams

>> No.15310027

>>15309911
>FBKing taking bronze preventing a top 3 sweep
>FBKing and duck taking 2 spots each in the top 10
Impressive. Also for all the shit Holo got earlier they took 6 spots out of the top 10 lol

>> No.15310035

>>15309939
holy shit

>> No.15310093

>>15309457
General rule of thumb
Funny > sexy
But being both sexy and funny is better

>> No.15310097

>>15309801
Jesus, those are Council numbers. I kinda feel bad for Kiara, she is annoying but she deserves better than that.

>> No.15310103

>>15308585
It wouldn't matter. Fubuki has won the number game long time ago. She had enough of being a Hololive pillar for a long time that she no longer cares about numbers anymore. It was Pekora who had a bunch of numberfagging sites on her browser history. I doubt FBK even gave too much of a fuck about her Pokemon streams' numbers or her CCV / views / watc hours rank outside of "Oh, I had a lot of fun with sukorns"

>> No.15310142

>>15309801
>BRAPPING STREAM

>> No.15310146

sorrry holo whores, it's time for nijiMEN to show how vtubing is actually done.

ENTER MYSTA

>> No.15310148

>>15309966
Not saying I don't believe it kek
Just saying I don't think it's likely MK tournament beats Koshien in terms of eyeballs.
There were other Nijistreams going on during the MK tournament that could totally push it over.
>you might as well go through every stream and check by hand.
Tried, but vrabi's data is fucked for most of the other Niji MK streams so can't.

>> No.15310156

>>15309259
>she was under more restrictions than other members.
This is sort of a "the law against living under the bridge applies equally to the poor and the rich" situation.
She was not under any "more restrictions" than the other girls, it is just that her claim to fame was to push things way over the line and get away with it.
It was Coco herself that disclosed that she would ask for permission to do something, then do it in a very creative interpretation of the permission she's got only for management to come abd and say something to the effect of
>that was not exactly what we gave permission, please refrain from doing it again

There is only so many times this sort of things happen until "Ok, I trust you" becomes "Nah, let's further analyze what you're asking and then give you a strict list of what this permission grants you and what it doesn't.

>> No.15310164

>>15310097
I dunno man, she's been given the advice she needs to climb, but out of sheer stubbornness has absolutely refused to fix her sound settings/change her voice. I absolutely REFUSE to watch her until she fixes those permanently, because it literally drives me mad (and not in a good way).

>> No.15310232

>>15309629
Check the previous thread anon someone took a screenshot mentioning 260k

>> No.15310253

>>15310156
Yea.
This results in what we like to call, an 'adversarial relationship' with management. It sucks for both parties involved, and usually comes about when someone likes to dance on the line and unfortunately goes over it too many times without at least playing nice enough times to sorta balance it out.

>> No.15310283

>>15310097
>Those are Council numbers
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/F0eLAsevLqc
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/dm6g_U6edj4
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JUjLmtOcucc
Nah.

>> No.15310307

>>15307222
Honestly,

Full company shutdown stream on the main channel.

So let's stop this stupid talk.

>> No.15310346
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15310346

FUCKING KEK!
>Mysta mogging head to head a 4 person collab, on Mito channel, that includes DebiDebi, Akabane Youko and Mashiro

Manjisanji?

>> No.15310351

>>15310156
>"Nah, let's further analyze what you're asking and then give you a strict list of what this permission grants you and what it doesn't.
But how does this relate to stuff like there being no EN collabs, no Hologura appearances, no main channel appearances at all?

>> No.15310353

>>15310164
Aye, you and me both KFP anti.

>> No.15310368

Why do nijinigs likes to use Mysta when it's only 7-8k? Is that some kind of achievement or something?

>> No.15310401

Target for Love numbers update!
Here's a fun comparison on Target for Love

Gura Ver. (334k views, 13 hours ago)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCfjf3rvTJY [Embed]

Official Ver. (208k views, 40 days)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnSl3cP1wds[Embed]

Ahahaha, the official version has actually gained 42k views since I last checked, while Gura's version has gained 48k views. I'm pretty sure the algo has started to suggest the official version as people search it up to compare.

>> No.15310424

>>15310346
>kanae UNPACKING
>Ars UNPACKING
THEY ARE

>> No.15310445

>>15309911
silverboy is back baby!

>> No.15310452

>>15303623
what's with the waves?

>> No.15310470

>>15310351
Stop replying to Cover shills

>> No.15310471

>>15310368
He got a higher peak than Selen bday on a normal stream, which means he'll be immensely more popular than her.

>> No.15310494

>>15310351
>But how does this relate to stuff like there being no EN collabs, no Hologura appearances, no main channel appearances at all?
The reason for that was not disclosed so people can only speculate.
Given that EN has their own management and are very stingy with collabs I can see why their management wouldn't allow a collab with Coco.
All in all the outcome was the expected when management and a talent won't have the same goal in mind anymore: they part ways and each follow their own path separately

>> No.15310545

>>15310452
Orca's Jewish trick.

>> No.15310558

>>15310494
>All in all the outcome was the expected when management and a talent won't have the same goal in mind anymore

That makes me think, how are Kson numbers nowadays compared to what Coco had?

>> No.15310575

>>15310232
I found it but he was adding in other Niji streams for 260k.
I added up all the MK streams manually and it came out to 248k, so it was closer than I thought regardless.
Sasuga Anycolor, unparalleled when it comes to tournaments.

>> No.15310584

>>15310351
>no EN collabs
EN has different management, blame Omega
>no Hologura appearances
Same as Suisei

>> No.15310609

>>15310452
Standard mario-kart/apex waves. People tab in/leave and then tab back in/come back as she gets closer to the end of the race (and/or the amount of people coming in vs leaving shifts, causing an increase in CCV). Once the race finishes, the equilibrium point shifts back down. Repeat for each race.

>> No.15310617

>>15310368
when hes mogging fucking kiara with 10x the sub count, then yes lmfao >>15309939

>> No.15310631

>>15310452
Standard MK stream behavior.
People leave/tab out in-between matches.

>> No.15310710

>>15310617
15x to be precise

>> No.15310768

>>15310401(me)
Hold on, I'm a fucking dumbass. Apparently there are TWO uploads of 'Target of Love'

THIS is the one I should be comparing it to.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTU-osotD8k
178k views. So, a 12k increase in 4 hours, not 42k. Considering how long its been out though, I suspect what I said earlier is still true, that people are looking up the old one/being recommended it after viewing Gura's version.

>> No.15310841

>>15310584
Nta but Suisei appeared today in HoloGra

>> No.15310856
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>>15310617
He's playing a horror game with Shu as commentary.
This was the last time Kiara did the same thing.
She then said she's never doing something like this again.

>> No.15310865

>>15309939
Chickenbros.. how will we ever recover?

>> No.15310874

>>15310558
>how are Kson numbers nowadays compared to what Coco had?
Not as high but her numbers were not as high as Coco as well, not since Asacoco got nerfed.
She was for a brief period the highest CCV, highest SC, highest sub growth of the whole vtuber world but then she took an arrow to the knee and her CCV for regular streams went to around 6k average, while she kept some 40k+ streams every week with Reddit Meme Review

Then Capcom hit, the meta shifted on Hololive from "puking on stream"; "bandaid on nipples", "xvideos creampie compilation" to singing, dancing, playing games and collabs and some streamers like Coco, Matsuri, Haachama struggled to adapt to the new meta while safer ones like Pekora, Subaru and Suisei thrived and others likes Miko quickly adapted to the new restrictions

>> No.15310894

>>15310841
Correct but I was talking about the time period where Coco didn't appear on Hologra.

>> No.15310901

>>15310856
>2months ago,
OH NO NONONO

>> No.15310903

>>15310856
>She then said she's never doing something like this again.
Why? She was too scared or something?

>> No.15310964

>>15310856
It's not a proper collab unlike that. Shu just barged in the middle of the stream.

>> No.15310970

>>15310617
It's not a big deal. I don't see him getting 20ks during his first week. Heck, did you forget that he didn't even beat ankimo? A literal meme channel?

>> No.15310980

>>15310368
Give credit where it's due, anon. 7-8k on a normal stream (not a collab, not a singing stream, not a special event, etc.) is an achievement for NijiEN. Whether he can keep it up is another matter, though, but that's to be seen. However, getting 7-8k on a normal stream, even with debut buff, is better than almost every NijiEN's members' records

>> No.15310997
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15310997

Holobros HOLY NIGHT

>> No.15311054

>>15310903
Yes. Everyone knows horror games are number steroids, but Ame and Kiara refuse to play them when even Fauna and Bae are willing to do it.

>> No.15311088

>>15310856
>>15310970
Why can you guys not just treat it like >>15310980 but instead start acting defensive?

>> No.15311087

>>15310368
It is for EN male Vtubers

>> No.15311106

>>15309331
it's heir job to care about numbers

>> No.15311123

>>15310494
>The reason for that was not disclosed so people can only speculate.
I do remember how after being repeatedly asked about EN collabs her own speculation was "I don't know, guess someone hates me". She's a real live and let live peace and love kumbaya type so hearing her snap like that was a bit jarring.

>> No.15311195

>>15311123
I kinda wish Kson would spit out exactly what happened.

>> No.15311220

>>15311088
>providing numbers is now being defensive
Didn't even say anything about Mysta, he's getting a good number.

>> No.15311249
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15311249

>de-debut buff
His viewers are NOT dropping. This is his highest viewed stream so far. HoloX was already down to 1/3 of the viewers they got in their first stream by this point. His 'low' 4.5k is only because he streamed during burger hours.

>> No.15311267
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15311267

>>15310980
>Give credit where it's due, anon. 7-8k on a normal stream (not a collab, not a singing stream, not a special event, etc.) is an achievement for NijiEN
You are not succeeding at highlighting how stronger the boys are than the girls on Nijisanij EN. Let me give it a try

1) Out of the top 20 non debut streams for that branch, the boys already have 10 of them, with the main channel having 2 and the girls only 8.
2( Mysta alone has 5 of the top 20 streams, including the third highest (which happens to the be current one), trailing only Petra JP collab and Vox thirsty tweets reading

It is not a peak as high as HoloEN gets but for NijiEN they're DEMOLISHING the previous numbers they used to get.

>> No.15311286

>>15311195
And then she breaks all narratives just like Flare yesterday

>> No.15311319

>>15311286
What narrative did Flare break yesterday?

>> No.15311325

>>15311249
>HoloX was already down to 1/3 of the viewers they got in their first stream by this point.
This is so retarded lmao.
By that logic, since Ethyria started so low, they not only didn't lose viewers, they have inclined by a few hundred too since their debuts.

>> No.15311340

>>15311267
Thanks for the assist anon

>> No.15311346

>>15311267
>5 of the top 20 streams
Six (6), not 5. Failed to count the current one, even with it being in the image.

I am waiting eagerly to see if the boys and the girls will collab.
I assume there is a collab ban ongoing (because it makes sense and that would explain the fact no boy collab with any of the girls) but when it ends it will be seen if this good performance will
>help the girls
>not affect the girls
>hinder the girls

>> No.15311378

>>15311319
I assume it was the mention that no girl ever pays for their own new outfits, with Cover not allowing that to prevent clogging the schedules with an unending stream of new outfits

>> No.15311380

>>15311319
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/15226106/#15232919
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/15226106/#15233149

>> No.15311391

>>15311267
ManjiSEAnji...

>> No.15311400

>>15311346
I bet it won't affect the girls much

>> No.15311408

>>15311267
I remember being there for the Sept stream when Selen broken the record for solo stream with 6k.
Nuts how it's just another day for Mysta and Vox.

>> No.15311482

>>15311346
We've seen this play out in NijiJP before.
It won't affect them.

>> No.15311500

>>15310584
anon your suisei train reps?

>> No.15311506

>>15311408
People still didn't process what's going on. Pomu got a break for what people assumed to be cancer surgery and, in her return, she got her highest peak so far
> 5.7k

Mysta lowest of his six streams in the top 20 already beat that.

>>15311400
>I bet it won't affect the girls much
If it doesn't they're terminally fucked. The "HoloEN light" model will be killed and NijiEN will go full blown "manjisanji" from that point on, with the first three waves of girls playing a support role

>> No.15311523

>>15252920
you should make one that includes those who only participated last time.

>> No.15311543

>>15311249
Anon, he is supposed to stream around burger hours (or at least, EU hours). NijiEN, remember? Having his numbers during burger hours being lower than late JP hours isn't really an excuse (if anything, it's funny that that's somehow the case, most EN members - both Holo and Niji - tend to get higher numbers during burger hours than JP / late JP hours). Why wouldn't his burger hour streams count?

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>>15304028
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/return-youtube-dislike/gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi

>> No.15311571

>>15311506
>The "HoloEN light" model will be killed
Good. It was retarded. Nijisanji has always had mixed waves. EN managers fucked up.

>> No.15311586

>>15311267
>>15310980
His numbers can be easily explained with pre-existing eop/esl fans during this timeslot that's already been cultivated by their JP senpais for years. Also, it's horror. They aren't breaking numbers at timeslots where it really matters as an EN member.

When talking about first mover advantage, Myth already takes the cake from their debut week. Niji4 as the first big male vtuber pales in comparison.

>> No.15311590

>>15311543
>Why wouldn't his burger hour streams count?
NTA, but they do. That doesn't take away from the fact he might have found a niche (thirsty SEA girls) and that he could get good numbers exploiting it.

It wouldn't make him any less NijiEN than PekoMoona would make Moona less of HoloID

>> No.15311612

>>15311346
They’re already collabing next week, like three times I’m pretty sure. Maybe this is a chance to introduce the new audience to the girls and possibly help them incline

>> No.15311622

>>15311506
Selen, the star of NijiEN.
Haha...

>> No.15311674

>>15304694
That'd be a stupid idea considering the troubles re act has faced. There's definitely something rotten in there, we just don't know what.

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15311692

>>15311558
Anon, it's a retarded extension that makes up a number based on some black box calculation. Even worse than Bilibili social credit score.

>> No.15311772

>>15311692
There's nothing black box about that. It takes the pre-removal dislikes and adds dislikes made by people with the extension. In this case there obviously is no pre-removal data so it's 700 some people with the extension.

>> No.15311800

>>15310856
>did the same thing
Planned collab =\= guerrilla collab. No one expected Shu to appear, he received a call suddenly in the middle of the stream, when Mista had already recruited viewers.

>> No.15311821

>>15311692
Its the schizo spamming the same "Pako" shit since the 25th for hours to no end using virtually everything in his disposal to shit on Pekora. Don't even bother.

>> No.15311855

>>15311543
Its NijisanjiEN, not NijisanjiNA. You have to remember he lives in the UK too.

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>>15311523
Good idea.

>> No.15311891

>>15309257
Here's the thing. Hololive officially doesn't use their channel for anything that isn't company sponsored. You can tell because the few things that were uploaded on their channel involved non-talent staff in some way. The girls seem to have little access to the channel for any personal projects like tournaments and shit.

>> No.15311899

>>15311325
>Ethyria started so low
Ethyria was a flop that debuted at the wrong time. They were able to gain viewers only over time, Holox, on the contrary, were successful at once, and now they are losing viewers every week.

>> No.15311936

>>15311772
Well, it's that, and then attempting to extrapolate 'missing' dislikes by people without the extension based off of past like/dislike ratios. That's the part that's fucky and easy to abuse.

>> No.15311954

>>15311249
>His 'low' 4.5k is only because he streamed during burger hours
Sasuga manjisanSEA

>> No.15311963

>>15311772
>It takes the pre-removal dislikes and adds dislikes made by people with the extension
That's not what they say, they calculate a number based on past streams dislikes and extension dislikes based on some black box algo.

>> No.15312038

>>15311106
Unlike anykara cover doesn't put their ccv on their speakerdeck so it actually isn't.

>> No.15312065

>>15311963
Do you have a source for that? Because I'm not seeing anything about an algorithm in >>15311692

>> No.15312087

Is Pekora schizo switched targets to Coco? Just to be clear, Coco have never said, nor implied that somebody in HoloEN hates her, it's an old rrat pushed by the chinks back in the day. If there's no timestamp, it's a lie.
Official reason for her graduation, that she herself gave, is because she got jealous of other girls getting bigger numbers and decided that it's better to be a top indie than bottom holo. Worth noting, that Coco numbers were shit way before the Taiwan yab. She tanked when Asacoco got nerfed and everybody got tired of Ark.
Also, with Asacoco, it wasn't so much an issue with management or permissions, but rather the fact that it was ridiculously hard to do. She literally couldn't sleep and constantly overdosed on sleeping pills, so once it stopped, there was no way for her to go back. The whole 'creative restrictions' is another rrat, outside of adding RL tits, her content didn't really change post Hololive.

>> No.15312123

>>15312087
Long blog there but no.

>> No.15312131

>>15309257
Why would you want to funnel to the main channel? How does that benefit you long term? Nijis main channel has good numbers. They also haven’t managed to develop any real significant talents for over a year. Connection?

>> No.15312141

>>15312038
Cover puts subs instead.

>> No.15312148

Man, the people coming to /#/ are extra retarded this weekend. Just where do these people come from?

>> No.15312176

>>15311855
Doesn't really change anything, though. His peak occured a bit more than 2 hours ago. It wasn't yet EU hours either (for reference it's 6:00PM UK and 7:00PM Germany / French time right now, so it was 4:00PM-5:00PM EU time when he peaked). EU hours would be 1-2 hours from now. That's why I called it "late JP hours" (it was around 0:00-1:00AM JST then). Currently, his CCV has dropped to 6.7k. It's still respectable, but not anywhere nearly as high as his peak

>> No.15312197

Event organized by Cover : main channel
Event organized by talent : talent's channel
Not that hard to understand.

>> No.15312216

>>15312141
Sub actually matters in a platform like Youtube for investors because they're the easiest to understand. High subs, high reach. That's likely to hook some investors to be interested and listen attentively to your pitch presentation.

>> No.15312219

>>15312176
Makes me wonder why Kiara usually streams 2-4 hours before now.
It's literally not even prime EU hours and she's the only person in HoloEN in these times.

>> No.15312287

>>15312065
>Combination of archived Like and Dislike data
That implies that they're using that to try and extrapolate current dislikes based off of the like/dislike amounts AND the dislikes by the extension users. That, is prone to abuse, as someone who doesn't have a historically high ratio can get 'raided' by sufficiently determined antis using the algo for stuff that isn't related, in an attempt to game the extension.
I wouldn't trust the dislikes past the API change to be accurate at all. I WOULD trust the dislikes on older videos that aren't being dislike bombed for some new reason though, that seems handy for when you're looking at old videos.

>> No.15312301

>>15312219
Most convenient time for her.
She has doctor appointments and physical therapy in the mornings/early afternoons.
She's also obsessed with keeping whatever Japanese fanbase she has.

>> No.15312304
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15312304

As expected, Vox is getting terrible viewership on his Civ V stream. What was he thinking with this game choice? I don't think he has any EU fanbase despite being a Brit either. This timeslot is bad for him. Getting 1k less than his previous sc reading stream during JP time.

>> No.15312315

>>15312219
She does things in the night like recordings and all that. Also meetings.

>> No.15312322

>>15312141
On youtube, subs are always king since it's the most focused on statistic and put out in front.
Subs > VOD views (CCV is included in there for streams, high CCV = high VOD) > CCV (something youtube doesn't show to the public)

>> No.15312354

>>15312304
>terrible viewership
>2550 would put him in the top 3 in NijiEN of old
lmao is this numberrot NijiEN edition?

>> No.15312380

>>15312322
>>15312216
Did Anykara leave subs out and only put in Kuzuha because they were afraid if potential investors were to ask about their competitors?

>> No.15312388

>>15312354
We never talked about the girls anymore after male debuted kek. Sorry Reimu.

>> No.15312400

>>15312354
Compared to his 8.6k which is the highest solo NijiEN stream of all time, yes, it is terrible.

>> No.15312418

>>15312304
That confirms once again that fujos are the core audience of Nijimales. Women and GSG are incompatible.

>> No.15312426

>>15312354
Yes, now NijiENfags can join in on the fun.
>>15312380
You'd have to ask Anykara's marketing team kek.

>> No.15312441

>>15312087
Anon, you're so full of it on every point that the thread would die before I'd get to going through this nonsense.
https://youtu.be/hz5MNHH2XxI?t=28

>> No.15312460
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>>15312065
>Do you have a source for that?
From the makers themselves
https://github.com/Anarios/return-youtube-dislike/issues/330#issuecomment-995838302

Here is goes, from the creator of the app himself
>The "algorithm" to calculate actual dislike number is the following: calculate ratio from extension user votes (say, video has 10% dislikes). Aplly this ratio to tatal number of likes.

That's absurdly retarded and the creator of the app himself highlight that
>This is extremely vulnerable to bias from extension users (i.e. data will be wrong if extension user's opinion differs greatly from general opinion).

If there are 10 retards with the extension casting a "Like / Dislike" in a video, all it takes is one (1) retard to make a video show up as "10% dislikes".
Which, in this Pekora's case, seems to be the exact explanation

>> No.15312483

>>15312304
>terrible viewership
>2.5k
That used to be the top NijiEN stream of pretty much every day kek

>> No.15312490

>>15312380
Naw, they put event peak CCV and VOD views iirc, because those are Niji's strengths.
It's fun to clown on Niji's daily numbers, but they are very good at drawing crowds for their big events, like last night.

>> No.15312507

>>15312483
yeah but he pulls 5k on sea time

>> No.15312528

>>15312441
Tracks with what I keep saying.
HoloEN management is deathly afraid of any sort of drama. If you understand that that's almost priority number one for them, many actions that they have taken make perfect sense.
Blocking Coco? Attempting to prevent chink drama from spilling into HoloEN.
Scouting decisions for Council? Same deal.
Also why external collabs are such a massive pain to set up for HoloEN, because management is no doubt going through potential requests with a fine-tooth comb and probably giving stipulations that certain topics NOT be brought up in order to approve said collabs.

>> No.15312549

>>15312490
>they are very good at drawing crowds for their big events, like last night.
True. The clowning (not just form this place but JOP places as well) is that this crowd vanishes into thin air the day after, never to return to regular streams.

>> No.15312552

>>15312460
So any screenshots of Pekora's supposed dislikes can be safely dismissed from now on. Good to know.

>> No.15312585

>>15312552
>from now on
It was always bullshit and anyone taking it at face value at any point in time is a retard

>> No.15312599

>>15312552
NTA, but it was nothing from the start. Even if those 1k are real, who the fuck cares?
It wasn't even a real hate campaign, like when Aqua was getting 3-5k dislikes on her streams before they started.

>> No.15312621

>>15312552
until next thread anyway, when some newfag swallows the rrat again

>> No.15312634

>>15312552
If they're from after the API change, yes.
For past streams that went live and finished before the API change, it's unlikely that their dislikes have increased all that much, so those are probably correct as to what has been archived.

>> No.15312641

>>15312528
>Also why external collabs are such a massive pain to set up for HoloEN, because management is no doubt going through potential requests with a fine-tooth comb and probably giving stipulations that certain topics NOT be brought up in order to approve said collabs.
Anon is so new he doesn't understand that a schizo spamming Vei's stupidity caused enough of a ruckus that it killed Kiara's collab and hasn't tried to do it again since. Please be understanding.

>> No.15312674

Jesas, Sana is at 23k subs gained in the last 30 days and it's going down. I legitimately wish I could talk with her just to ask what the fuck does she have in her mind.

>> No.15312703

>>15312599
>Aqua was getting 3-5k dislikes
oh yeah I remember schizos going after her during that time as well.
Seems it's back to normal, under 400 on all of her recent videos. I guess she managed to shed the ApexSchizo audience by not playing it for long enough (and not streaming for a while in general).

>> No.15312725

>>15312585
I was being facetious, in case that wasn't obvious.
>>15312599
True.

>> No.15312773

>>15312674
Try to reach management anon, or maybe twitter? Try to sound reasonable though

>> No.15312779

>>15312703
and it will be the same for Pekora as well kek
Pekoschizo will probably just get bored and stop, but I'm hoping we can maybe see some coping and seething before that happens.
He's not posting right now, so most likely a SEAnigger.

>> No.15312789

>>15312549
If you think about the other way around, it's impressive how efficient Niji tournaments are.
They are able to take a bunch of 2-6k viewers + a actual few heavy hitters and wrapping it up in a tournament for a 200k+ viewer event.
Daily numbers are bad because most of the Nijis are probably not entertaining enough to host a big audience (they got plenty of exposure, like this tournament, so that's not the problem), but Nijis are still able to squeeze a river out of these rocks.

>> No.15312797

>>15312490
It's true that the channel is used for major events, but it's kinda stupid for them to drown them out with short videos that gets less views.

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