/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>15143023
Cope. They're only doing well because there's no Holostars EN to compete with. If that was a thing they'd be 2view tier.

>>15143090
>cope
>proceeds to cope

>>15143090
You can't say cope and cope right the next sentence

>>15143160
>>15143202
>n-no you!
Pathetic.

>>15143090
>Unicorn idol company viewers
>Watching males

>>15143023
Is this the same faggot who was spamming how the penis wave defeated fucking Sana, rumao

>>15143090
False-flag chama, no-one who watches Hololive wants more Homostars.

>>15143090
>there's no Holostars EN to compete with
that's mean there IS audience for EN male Vtuber and OP is right. baka

>>15143023
POMU SELEN MOGGED LMAO

Men are better streamers and entertainers than women, how is this shocking?

>>15143023

WHY are there so many viewers?
WHY they didn't watch nijisanji female-vtubers?
hate this fcking situation

>>15143090
Well done, you missed the point of the entire thread.

>brag about debut numebrs
>week passes
>they are sub 3k now
next thread

>>15143023
We'll talk again in a month ok? But you will be dangling your benis for the next bait by then won't you?

>>15143604
They only just debuted.

>>15143090
le falseflagg

>>15143090
You people will say HolostarsEN will mog nijis but when they actually come out you will refuse to support, or even outright harass them.

>>15143090
Don't break your back moving those goalposts.

>>15143604
Debut also Manjisanji audience. They should just drop the female branch.

>>15143023
Not sure what this has to do with Nijisanji forcing DLSite to change their content policy.

>>15143685
We talking about Kiara?

>>15143023
>All this bait to promote holostarsEN
Even in this homobeggers are annoying

You falseflagging spammers shifting targets every week is evidence that ‘containment’ is a myth and you should all be banned on sight.

>>15143842
You're trying way too hard now, you post this in every thread related to nijisanji.

>>15143793
Considering cover's reputation for copying, if these boys end up relatively successful, I wouldn't be surprised if cover try out a Holostars EN branch, which would ultimately fail, because their audience literally doesn't watch males.

>>15143604
Manjisanji is not just a meme anon. The woman of nijisanji are just accessories to the males. People like Lize and Mito do their best though.

>>15143090
Holostars EN at this point would be badly mogged by Nijisanji EN, which is probably why it won't happen.

Also, numerically, Nijisanji EN males are now in the top streams for Nijisanji in general despite Nijien previously being middling except selen.

>>15143793
It's not my fault they shouldn't have hit on my oshi by being in the same company as them please understand.

Shit, does the presence of males in NijiEN mean now the women audience will hate on the NijiEN girls and start trying to get them graduated, just like JP?

>>15143090
Based
When Cover creates HolostarsEN I will personally join just to mog all nijihomos

>>15143604
Because people watch what they like? Unlike the schizos here those fans actually watch based on the individual rather than the company.

>>15144079
as long as elira doesnt molest mysta the girls will be fine

>>15143931
Are there even any hearsays about the potential members of Holostars En? I know at least one person who was rumoured to be in Holostars Id and that was before Hololive ID gen 1 debut.

>>15143970
>The woman of nijisanji are just accessories to the males
what does that meme even mean? males in nijisanji are just popular just because they stream more.

>>15143604
>Debut
>They are the only male to watch
>The smart ones are being gay and doing content for fujos

>>15143023
>there's no EU audience
Apologize, Holobronies.

>>15144098
holo starEN won't be success
because holo star jp isn't successful

>>15143604
>WHY they didn't watch nijisanji female-vtubers?
WHY would they watch female Niji when Hololive exist? It's the same reason why Holostars aren't as popular as JP Nijimales.

I only watch hololive and I really hoped that they do well since it would be shit for the nijiEN girls. Hololive doesnt compete with the males anyways.

>>15143521
Hololive is a poor fit for male vtubers. They are way too restrictive and obsessed with the idol image. Why would anyone want to watch male vtubers with Hololive restrictions when you could watch indie male vtubers who do way more interesting shit because they have complete freedom?

The restrictions work well for female vtubers (even then there are some drawbacks) but it definitely doesn't work for male ones.

>>15144409
Why watch Holo or Niji when I can watch Cyberlive?

What will happen if they debut Holostars Spanish instead of Holostars English

>>15143604
New viewerpool

>>15143604
debut buff

>>15144409
I know...
but lazulight is doing their best on this half year so i can't convinced this difference

Have they've been doxxed yet? Is one of you faggots from /here/ of them? I would lose it of one of you schizos made it in

>>15144635
From who? There was never an 8k nijien stream in English before this.

>>15144704
no, theyre all normal guys

>>15144355
lmao niji males already doing so bad they get single digit viewers? how bad do you even have to be to get .172 of a viewer??

>>15143023
Uh oh. Looks like we have no choice. Deploy emergency homosexual, OP, into the battlefield.

>>15144540
nobody notice it

>>15144738
Nips and sea.

>>15143604
>WHY are there so many viewers?

Because there's a void of hot sexy male EN tubers that just got filled.

>WHY they didn't watch nijisanji female-vtubers?

They're watching holoEN instead.

>>15143090
disagree. Nijisanji males are more popular than females, and in Hololive females are more popular than males. Hololive fans really don't like males and want pure seiso wholesome females

>>15143090
Cope in the dark

Not like this niji 1k viewer sisters

>>15144742
Doubt

>mysta gets 8.1k
>vox gets 8.5k
>shu gets 5.5k

pretty close to hololive tier

>>15144528
I also enjoy watching JP indies but you have to understand that most people aren't that based, they're numbrain sheeple that follow big company.

The Nijiboys are getting a lot of help from the girls, they banter with them on Twitter, they're on their chats making jokes.
The HoloENgirls would 100% ignore the HoloEnboys.

>>15144214
>Holostars Id
That guy's name is Bonniver

>>15143604
They're genuinely funny and have great chemistry with each other
Just on Luka's lastest stream he tricked the chat into saying rhydon deez nuts

>>15144890
And that's a good thing.

>>15143023
>EN audience

>>15143842
Not sure what this has to do with male viewtubers having an audience.

>>15144695
The girls are fighting against HoloEN and VShojo for their lot. The boys are fighting against Holostars, who are mostly comprised of EOP saviourfags.

In that respect, the girls have done really well. They're all earning nice money from SCs and Memberships and now Luxiem can help give them a boost with their new viewerbase.

>>15143820
There's no female branch in Nijisanji. It's all co-ed

>>15143023
can't we make like VT2 for the homo stuff or something? It's not ever interesting as bait I'm not going to watch faggots with cringy names and models no matter which brand they get attached to.

>>15143604
The nijiboys have now introduced the EU and the female audience that no other big vtuber corpo has tried so far. These are mostly entirely new viewers.

>>15144932
that shit happens when petra is speaking japanese as well. hes now speaking it.

>>15143023
NijiSEA twinks

>>15144971
EN branch was clearly divided actually that's why we speak of "male wave" now.

>>15143793
yes, and?

>>15143023
I kneel.
Very happy for them.

Oh my God debut number big
Oh, number after some months not so big
Oh, number after a year small

>>15143023
see you in January

>>15145050
Should've said the female waves then.

>>15144895
He's not an fps streamer

>>15143023
western geek women didnt have their own quality western contents, since they are lazy as shit and cant even make any decent contents, and had to vent frustration by being sjws/feminists and inserting shitty gay junk into western comics and cartoons. now the quality one came out, theyve finally had it, so ofc theyd flood into it.

>>15143023
Unironically SEA hours.
CONGRATULATIONS! YOU GOT THE THIRSTY SEA FUJOS.
THE WORST OF THE WORST, THE SCUM OF THE EARTH.
But hey, numbers.

>>15145015
>Moonrunes
How long until they are coming back to NijiJp?

>>15145259
>Apex, Valorant, CS:GO, R6S
Yes he is

>>15145354
He's not a vtuber. He doesn't even have a live2d

>>15144920
>deez nuts
fucking hell, NijiEN still hasn't managed to come up with a second joke?

>>15145339
until next male jp come
They just want to be senior viewer

>>15145332
dayumn

>>15144920
damn, a comedy genius

Its Kiara, no one cares.

>>15145491
sorcerer? I hardly know 'er!

>niji releasing pump and dump waves
Most of these faggots will be forgotten in a couple months once the next batch of nijihomos debut

>>15145502
>senior viewer
Why is this a thing?
Bragging points?

>>15145544
heh, "hardly," good one, Anon

>>15145502
Wouldn't be surprised if half the audience didn't know JP existed.

>>15145332
lol
tell me how many subscriber right girl have

>>15145635
>Abang
She's probably an indog
Why indog fujos are into NijiEn? What went wrong with Nijiid?

>>15144270
I think it's part of the problem really, when you introduce males to a group with time females just don't feel like trying so much and start leaving a lot of stuff to the penis-havers because well it's nature girls are bad at dealing with the pressure didn't Mito sabotaged her numbers at one point? Certainly doesn't help that some of their most hard-working and creative female members graduated, there is nothing similar to Pekora in nijisanji I'm not even sure how many full-time female livers they have because it's pretty normal for nijis to have a dayjob.

>>15144738
NijiEN was never shilled by Kuzuha before this

>>15144738
There was a few times, but only for big collabs. Like Selen's birthday hit 8.5k

>>15145635
I don't know what it is but donations showing up on screen is such an immediate mood killer for me

Mysta is currently #1 in Nijisanji!!

https://niji-mado.web.app/home

>>15145847
yayo....

>>15145804
also phasmophobia collab

>>15143023
Have you seen the stream? Fucking fujos man. I don’t want that in hololive tbhonest

>>15145939
thats how we feel about holoenfags in nijigirls streams

>>15145939

I remember Council getting 20K+ on the first 2 weeks.
Lets see if these homos can keep up 5K+ after the honeymoon, but I doubt it.

>>15143604
Funny to see EN fans of Nijisanji girls seething over this just like their JP counterparts.

>>15145840
Pavlovian response to something you associate with twitch

>>15145840
It's why watching twitch streamers isn't fun.
I don't like when there's so much focus on it, especially with TTS.

>>15144950
going by the JP example niji homos growth will not transfer to females but rather the opposite, big part of female audience will move away I don't believe the attitude of Westerners is really that different despite what redditors claim, certainly not with people that actually send them money, niji EN 1-3 will get fucked from this point to varying degree although not instantly it will take some time with more intersex collabs and shit but I wouldn't expect them to grow much at this point.

>>15146106
>Penis-kun
>Sperm-sama
>These emojis
>Imbecile-like descriptions
Kek
Is this a fem nip?

>>15143023
Anon, this is still the hype ride and like all of them, the ride slows down and stops sooner or later.

>>15146357
no because of the english she uses. im sure shes an amerimutt weeb or just a troll

>>15144738
from people curious because it's something relatively new on the EN market?

>>15143023
>Entire discussion built around not watching hololive
Rent free.

>>15145491
isn't that a nux taku joke or some shit? Wonder when will they collab now.

>>15143090
Holo males can't collab with Holo females so they are massive flops unlike male Nijis.

>>15143604
Are you people fucking dumb or something?

Myth took the EN viewers first. People don't have time to watch a dozen vtubers especially with lockdowns going away so they stick to the few ones they know. Council also proved that.

NijiEN was #3 to EN market so they were struggling for a bit but people who gave them a chance stick around so they keep doing better.

With males it's the other way around, NijiEN secured the market first.

you know at the end of the day its very simple.
Idolfaggotry, yuribaiting and the illusion of being single for females brings the money, gachis and views.
Fujo pandering, the illusion of being single and yaoibaiting brings the money and views for males.

It just comes to prove that everyone is the same and it's the best business model lol

>>15145698
>Why indog fujos are into NijiEn?
UK Accent

>>15146106
Imagine if those were the Niji-clippers baiting for clips

your #1 EN male chubba

Can they improve with future male waves or will NijiEN degrade like Holocouncil did for HoloEN

>>15147223
Get this shitposter OUTTA HERE!
>>15147278
If they go for the burger audience, they're dead in the water. They're better off pandering to SEA fujos given the numbers.

>>15146166
Holos get pity subs and audience by name asociation
Nijimales filled a niche, their audience isn't viewbotted and has no reason to leave (also most of them don't know what a 2434 is)

>>15147328
Most of the nijiboys are in EU right? the timeslot they going for right now will work out for them pretty well

Calling people horsefuckers when horses aren't involved at all is top cringe, faggot.

>>15146357
Pretty sure it's furry copypasta with the names changed.

>>15146924
The guy gets it.

Even Ethyria which was quite unpopular at first has been finding an audience, especially Nina and Enna.

People will stick with what they know already in a saturated market, but with new additions they might decide to branch out and check them out in time, but it takes time. In a market with nothing, the first to fill it will win out.

>>15148094
People who actually try NijiEN almost always jump ship from HoloEN. I used to love Myth but compared to Nijis they are lazy and boring.

>>15148241
These fans flooding in to see the boys are definitely not ex-holo fans. These are 14 year old girls from tumblr and twitter

>>15144764
The ones under Shu are holostars...

>>15148304
They have 60% female fans. So almost half of the viewers are male. It's the same with Kuzuha in JP.

Alright you gave me no choice...

GURA KILLER
>GURA KILLER
GURA KILLER
>GURA KILLER
GURA KILLER
>GURA KILLER

>>15148387
This has no effect on males since they don't share the same audience. You need to call them Kuzuha killers.

>>15148348
i came back to say that i hate you for missing the joke

>>15148387
Get this FOUL CURSE out of here you holobronie.
>>15148371
Do we know this for sure? Unless he's stated his metrics himself we can only guess at best, especially given the amount of tourists that are milling about. It's up to the boys to hold on to them though, so I'd hold off on celebrating until at least a month has passed.

>>15148519
He said today his youtube metrics told him 60% of his viewers are female

>>15148475
Alright

KUZUHA KILLER
>KUZUHA KILLER
KUZUHA KILLER
>KUZUHA KILLER
KUZUHA KILLER
>KUZUHA KILLER

>>15148548
Missed it, thanks.
It's good they have the attention, its on them to hold it now and convert the tourists into dedicated viewers.

As a Holochad, why would I care? They will never collab with Hololive so they might as well not exist to me.

>>15148094
Also I hate talking about vtubers like they're different brands of canned beans, as there's so many different factors deciding these things for individuals, but there is a smidgen of truth in the market talk. People will be people, after all.

>>15148707
Ollie and Mori exist Holobrony, keep breathing in that copium

>>15148750
Only one coping is you if you actually believe those collabs will happen. There's literally zero chance.

>>15148750
While I'm sure those two will continue to collab with various men, NijiEN's still blocking holo collab so that particular scenario is still unlikely.

Numberfags leaking again...

>>15148954
Is it confirmed Niji's blocking or did you pull that out of your ass? It's 100% believable, especially with what happened with pomu's 3D vr singing stream yesterday, but you faggots pull shit out of nowhere and treat it as the gospel truth.

>>15149247
No one has said anything. Anything wrt collabs being blocked by EITHER side's management are completely rrats at this point, albeit some of the rrats may be more sound than others.

>>15149247
No one know which side is blocking it. Each side will say the other is.

>>15149247
Just like Nijifaggot tourists pull these collab dreams out of their asses. Keep begging.

>>15149247
It's a rrat, but it's not unrealistic. We know Ollie and Kiara both got shut down, and holoEN and holoID have different management. The only real possibilities are NijiEN management or upper JP side holo management.

>>15143604
This is Nijisanji.

>>15143023
Chickenbros..

>>15144932
He was doing a Japanese-only stream dumbass

All the female EOP’s supported the girls during debut but never watched or tweeted about them (except for Selen because of her Kanae collab). Now that the males are out though, all their tweets are about these boys, and barely any about the NijiJP boys anymore. They’re sucking Chronoir dry of their international fanbase.

>>15147328
>>>15147278 (You)
>If they go for the burger audience, they're dead in the water.
Is it? No one has figured out what males work best for NA hours, yet. Perhaps EU accents with fujoshi designs are most compatible during SEA/EU hours and maybe there's something else that clicks with the west.

>>15143023
Are we still pretending that HoloJP gen 6 still has the 60k viewers they've had for the entire week of their debut

>>15150905
>Moving goal posts
OP is pointing out that there is an audience for male vtubers.

>>15143023
Kys

>>15143023
But I said multiple times that Nijisanji fans prefer males and that they would have more viewership than the girls.

>>15143023
Female KFP are watching those two males instead of chimkin...
LMAO

>>15150905
Completely different viewer base. Nijis actually improve their views in time. Ethyria has about 50% better numbers now than in weeks after debut.

>>15148857
It's going to happen.

>>15145643
that makes it worse because only 4k out of over 1 mil actually want to watch her lol

I hate europoors so fucking much.

>>15143023
>eu/na primetime
>1/4 the views
what happened?

>>15143604
Think about it this way. There are a lot of EOP women who like vtubers, or would like to watch them, but can't find a streamer to dedicate to. They were previously tourists, and now gained something to latch on and enjoy for themselves, rather than observe on the sides.

>>15143090
Wrong. Nijisanji has always had more successful male vtubers than Holo. Holo fans don’t give a fuck about them. t. Holofag

>>15151472
Ethyria debuted with 10k viewers, none of them can get 10k ever

can i get a chuba fan gf to sperg about our oshi?

>>15157093
>Weeks after debut

>>15143023
There is no audience for m*le vtubers

>>15143090
The irony is strong

>>15157093
Debut views are never relevant the fuck are you talking about? Does Holo 6th gen have 150k streams post debut?

Ethyria used to stream to 700-800 people. Now 1.5k is the norm and 2-3k streams aren't rare.

>>15156058
Content matters i think. They baited SEA fujos but apparently no effect on western market.

Manjisanji won again

>>15143023
How will pomunigger and selenschizo gonna cope now? Did they all convert to Vox sama believers? Or to mysta bro gang?

>>15158070
what

>>15143604
It's almost as if there's actually a large untapped market for male vtubers in the west. People under-estimate the silent majority of fujoshits there are.

>>15158070
>Or to mysta fujo gang?
fixed

>>15144873
Those are pretty close to the average EN numbers excluding Gura and buff stream Mori

>There is no market for EN chuubas
They are a huge success.
>The niji hag fox will destroy vtubing with politics
She's actually the most succesful of her group and never talks politics at all
>There is no market for EN male vtubers
They are actually a huge hit.

Its kind of impressive how wrong this place constantly is, odds would dictate they'd be right about something, some day, yet /vt/ continues to bat .0. I for one am looking forward to seeing what else they're wrong about in 2022.

Botted

>>15143023
>have to compare themselves to goddamn KIARA just to look good
Probably the saddest thing I've seen on this website, right next to my reflection in the monitor

>>15143023
I love Hololive, and I've never even remotely implied this. Don't paint us all with the same brush, faggot, some of us want Nijisanji to succeed too.

H...how do I become a male VTuber and gain an army of fujo following me?

>>15171373
have deep voice or be really funny while gay

>>15171373
>Get a model
>Act gay
>Profit

>>15148484
jokes are funny

>>15171093
I mainly watch Hololive too, and I can't help myself replying to people getting baited by bait threads, which pushes bait threads up, which in turn means I'm technically getting baited by helping other faggots get baited by this dumb thread

>>15143090
The irony is palpable

>>15171657
>which pushes bait threads up
Remember that “sage” exists.

It exists

>>15171373
suck rikkuns dick

>>15143604
Why are you all surprised with this?
Nijisanji has always been popular with the fujos.
The males are all more popular than the females, so figures that EN males would do better as well.

>>15144445
shit how?

Nice anon, you manage to farm 197 reply and 118 IP!

>>15143023
Thanks, now every time homofags blame woman for their failure I can just post this

>>15170979
Nijisanji too poor to buy bots that work, graduate EN now