/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>15137332
Cope Nijinigger. Holostars EN will mog them

I hate you fags jumping the gun so much this is going to make this board unbearable in a month after the debut buff wears off

>>15137332
the untapped roastie market of legend... i kneel...

Cover made everyone in the west believe male vtubers couldn't be successful.

>>15137352
))))))

>>15137352
>He thinks HolostarEN will be big
>Company caters to Unicorns
OH NO NO HOLOBRONY

Owakon holoEN should graduate

>>15137332
You think Manjisanji was a meme ?

hes actually doing very well as an ikemen anime character. why are you fags so jealous of him. you must be either dumb amerimutt coomer losers or spics.

also the funny thing is that the niji male division is practically Niji Europe. euros actually cuck you amerimutts so hard.

>>15137332
Cope I just him in me

>>15137332
>8.5k sea time vs 2.7k na time

>>15137516
>also the funny thing is that the niji male division is practically Niji SEA
ftfy

>>15137332
>M*le vtuber
Cringe faggot

>>15137332

>>15137676
Teamates do not look...

>>15137332
>Reading thirsty fujo tweets
This faggot has no shame

>>15137516
>you must be either dumb amerimutt coomer losers or spics.

What's the difference between spics and americans in 2021?

>>15137332
Don't make direct comparisons. En market is many times bigger than Jp, so it's understandable that they'd have greater numbers.

>>15137352
Nijisanji is the trend setter yet again, time to play catch up...

>>15137332
Vtubers, utaite, vocaloids, online idols and the like were always something women were heavily interested in. We men are the real tourists.

With that said, it is a man's natural inclination to subdue, crush, conquer and rule over those who cross his path. We run this yard now. However, those women didn't just stop existing, so obviously there was still a market for male vtubers.

>>15137332
Totalbiscuit vtuber

>>15137332
>Holo tier views
Ypu mean Holostars? That's some weak ass tier views right there

I can't believe how much seethe this guy is causing. Reminder that there were a lot of anons that tried out for Luxiem. This is all genuine seethe rumao rumao.

>>15138777
Nice cope.

>Nice cope

>>15137332
He is my autistic best friend experience. I will slay every whore from NijiEN that will try to change him into normie

>>15138777
LMAO

When will you learn that honeymoon views mean nothing?

>>Holo tier view
>Ypu mean Holostars? That's some weak ass tier views right there

>>15139018
Honeymoon views continually go up for Niji EN.

>>15137332
Roasties are untapped (heh) market.

>>15137352
impossible, holo fanbase is just incels that feel threatened by any male in proximity of their life, they would kill themselves with just thought of male-female collabs

>>15137332
did you read the title?

>>15137352
Cover would have to be retarded to actually debut holostars EN over continuing to build off of holomyth's popularity with more female groups. They just need to stop being dumb fucks and actually hire indies instead of their retarded logic of picking up people with large fanbases assuming they're actually entertaining in the slightest - See Mumei.

Shien and Astel would probably end up graudating if it happened since Shien is opposed to expanding the stars further until Cover stop treating them like shit, and Astel would have most of his viewership stripped away.

>>15140364
It's poetic justice given how much Holofags love to use 2view as an insult.

>>15137332
Two things: An untapped male market, and Nijimales tend to do much better than their Holo counterparts
Expect them to grow in popularity too

>>15140364
>>15140530
The irony is that the actual 2view that became the rat is one of the most entertaining in council.

>>15137332
Not sure what this has to do with Nijisanji forcing DLSite to change its content policy.

>>15140364
Mumei is the most entertaining member of council though. If you have shit numbers in your past life you dont deserve to be in Hololive because that means you're gonna have shit numbers in hololive.

>>15137352
>holostars views
Homobeggar... I...

>>15140574
This is coming from a Holochad, by the way. Hololive will always have bigger numbers, but expect NijiEN males to be semi-popular at least.

>>15137516
>unnecessary garbage tacked on
Main issue is the fujos and the whores being awakened by him and the rest of that wave. I couldn’t give a shit what this fag does outside of that.

Get some hot anime design, and slap some Corpse-ish voice on top. Is it REALLY that hard to get a large female audience?

>>15140364
>they have to hire indies!!!
Sounds like a 2view cope. Indies are hit and miss. You don't want some dramawhore, SJW or tranny joining Hololive, that's why you go for established streamers.
Not necessarily knocking Nijis: they have some talented and entertainig streamers like Selen, and recently the fox

>>15140813
Like Selen, Pomu, and the fox*

>>15137676
AHAHAHAHA

>>15140624
That's just wrong. Several of them have proved otherwise.

>>15140688
Well, you also have to stomach their endless advances, and no matter how much rewiring in the brain you can do for the sake of money/fame, something will always seem off about it. Probably helps that he’s in a field meant for the inhibited.

>>15140813
>You don't want some dramawhore, SJW or tranny joining Hololive
>Dramawhore
Kiara
>SJW or tranny
Kronii

Too late.

>literally bait stream for coomers fans
now this is desperate, but i know standards doesnt exist at this level.

>>15140813
Ironic that you like Nina when she got a lot of flack pre-debut exactly for the reasons you listed. I like her too though.

>>15137516
>Seanig hours
>blame amerimuts
>steals nijimales self earned boom in exposure as a victory for themselves
Cope in the dark faggot, you didn't do shit, niji's talent scouts and hiring team did. Only miss is Elira's autistic buddy that got stuck with the shittiest design, but he has room to improve along with ike and luca.

>>15140984
Nina seemed like a massive yab during her first impressions but in actuality she's actually avoidant of politics and has insane work ethics and is always streaming more than anyone else.

>>15140984
Yeah I'm aware. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, and decided I'd pass judgement after some time had passed. She hasn't caused any serious trouble to my knowledge though (unless you count the Coco gossip in Russian), so she's OK for now.
Plus I fucking love her artist, So-bin. I'm a huge fan of his work on Overlord.
I kinda wish he'd gotten picked for a Hololive girl; even Ina replied to him telling him she was a huge fan after he drew her not long after debut.

>>15140921
I like Kiara. but in terms of bait posting, isn't she just low hanging fruit at this point? Even l*lc*w got bored of her.

>>15141722
orange woman doesn't count

>>15141722
OH NONONONO HOLOENKEKS HOW CAN WE RECOVER FROM THIS!?!?!?!

>>15137332
How the fuck do men have more views than the girls? Is this the end of Niji EN girl bros?

>>15141902
EU friendly timeslots and they are drawing in a lot of new viewers either from thirsty women or people curious about male EN livers

>>15141722
No fucking way

>>15141902
Different target audience. Nijiwomen are in direct competition with HoloEN while Nijimen cater to the untapped female market.

>>15141722
Yagoo made a mistake not making holostars EN, huh.
I wonder if he wanted to and the management/investors didn't let him.

>holo tier views
Wtf are you talking about, he's a brand new vtuber who just debuted. 6th gen debuts got 100k+ views. Not even close. His numbers will go down in a few weeks inevitably.

>>15142236
>I wonder if he wanted to and the management/investors didn't let him.
Yagoo probably listening to Astel and Shien to not make Holostars En

>>15137332
>Horny gimmick stream
>Debut buff
>EN corpo male chuuba novelty buff
It's not rocket science.
I'd say his regular gaming stream numbers will be around 2k once all the buffs wear off, which is still more than I would have expected pre-debut.

>>15137332
Holostars En is now inevitable, are you ready to join them?

>>15142236
There's 0 chance HoloEn would be relevant in any way, the average Hololive fan doesn't care about dudes, some even hate them and don't them close to the girls. They would have no support from the girls either, they would realize it's suicide. Nijisanji is used to dudes and everyone, fans and females members support them.

>>15142501
It's worth the risk, at the end of the day is little investment for what could be a big pay off. Besides, people beg Ollie to collab with Connor every single day so there's a market for it.

>>15142501
I'd really like to see Holostars EN happen, to see the unicorns lose their mind.

Akuma

>there's someone screencaping everything here to grudgepost once honeymoon buff is over

>>15137332
So what's Homobeggars excuse now?

>>15142258
Keep holocoping, it only makes their dick stronger so they can fuck your oshi

>>15140364
>Cover stop treating them like shit
From the start, Holostars was Yagoo's prosonal project that wasn't entirely blessed by investors and shareholders. What this means is that they don't get the marketing and sponsorship that Hololive get, which was already mentioned in th contract when they were recruited.
However, just because Cover don't market and give them sponsorship, doesn't mean they get completely thrown into it without some supports, which include:
>monthly salary
>access to a manager and legal teams
>safety net in case their channel got a random banhammer by Susan
>a plethora of connections for any personal projects such as cover songs or merchs
Any indy would kill to have the things Holostars get just by the dint of being under Cover.

>>15137637
Found the GFE turboincel. Just accept you're afraid to become a tranny cus of your homoerotic insecurity, so you cope jerking off of pekora and rushia pictures and streams.

>holostars EN
Hololive fans won't give a fuck about them. Just look at the recent 3D debuts. A sizeable portion of Nijisanji fans will gather to watch even for the least popular members. Meanwhile, stars are outright ignored by the main fanbase.

>>15137352
>Holostars EN
That would leave the current Holostar branch with no viewers whatsoever lmao

>>15137735
This faggot has some game

>>15143654
The day of retribution draws near

Didn't Artemis also get like a huge buff during debut and close to debut streams but then became a literally who 2view?

You faggots do this with every new shiny thing huh?

>>15142960
Wow anon you work for Cover?

Holostars happened because men were applying to Hololive, a fact that's been said on stream unlike the Yagoo personal project rrat.

>>15137332
Women are hornier than men, it's a scientific fact

>>15145627
If women are so horny, why is /vt/ full of bitter virgins?

>>15137332
literally flavor of the week

>>15137332
>holotier views
trannies coping

>>15142501
but you can always gain new viewers.
watching the chat and twitter reactions, there are an ungodly amount of newfags watching the nijiEN males right now, as in people that haven't watched vtubers at all before.

>>15137352
Homostars can't collab with anyone or even interact with Hololive girls. They will be utter flops.

Niji fans are massive fags, that's why

>>15137332
you trannies sure love spamming

>>15137332
honeymoon

>>15137386
>roastie market
Stop this meme, it's the homo market.

>>15151040
You're incorrect, I've been looking at Vox's chat AND his Twitter, they're both filled with women. Additionally, Mysta's audience is comprised of more females than males, and it would be expected that the statistic carries over to Vox.

>>15144005
>Reading them and calling his fanbase whores
This faggot is based

>>15137332
>there's no audience for males in the west!!!
Makes me laugh every time.

>>15140624
Senzawa...

>>15141902
HoloEN was first and secured fanbase. Then came Vshojo. NijiEN was simply too late. But it's fine since they are slowly going up.

>>15147326
>JP

Nobody claims that HoloJP is doing bad. It's the EN that's falling apart.

>>15137332
Because is nijisanji? Is like comparing Kuzuha with a regular holo, Nijisanji fans prefer dudes, that's just how it is.

>>15138095
>What's the difference between spics and americans in 2021?
Savage.

>>15138095
Kek

>>15145604
Not that guy, but the personal project thing was also mentioned on stream, you filthy newfag.

>>15137332
manjisanji
manjisanji
LMAO

>>15137352
A week ago you homos were coping saying the nijihomos would fail and homostars EN would never happen lmao, moving the goalpost I see.

>>15138561
then how do you explain the jp nijimales have more views than holostars?

>>15137332
More like VShojo tier views

>debut buff
>not even a week in and they lost 80% of viewers
CLEAR

I know I can do this too. I was born to be a virtual ikemen, I just know it

>>15145627
this is completely wrong. you may as well just say you're an incel now, dumb retard

>>15137332
Don't underestimate female support. these dumb hoez need a fantasy.

Do women like voices that aren't deep? It feels like they don't really care about any of the voices that aren't Vox.

>>15152130
Yeah? The runner up in nijimales en Mysta has an ultra faggy voice and women and men are flocking to him.

>>15152130
Mysta

>>15137385
Nijiniggers need to feel like theyve finally won after a year of crushing defeat, pls andstad

>>15152210
>>15152227
Isn't that the accent, and not his actual voice? I don't really consider it the same.

>>15137385
They are doing better with time not worse. More and more people are discovering them. And those views actually bleed to rest of the branch too. Girls used to struggle hitting 1k now 1.5-2k is normal.

>>15152256
holoniggers think they own the place

>>15152335
enna....

Will nijiJP waive their collab fee to collab with them?

If Vox had Mysta's personality, we'd have a Gura killer. At this rate, Vox will only get views when doing these kinds of readings or ASMR shit. He is dogshit at other things.

>>15152335
Reimus last stream literally had 200 viewers, it was with a male too, she should've had 10000 viewers according to you

clearly japanese women aren't thirsty enough.

>>15152376
>gurakiller
The males dont target the same audience as Gura at all
Do you think 13-21 year old guys are going to flock to a male?

>>15152437
>Do you think 13-21 year old guys are going to flock to a male?
Yes?

>>15152437
What makes you think they won't? Simple ass nigger. To be completely fair, it hasn't even been a week since debut so all you niggers should reserve your final estimations.

>>15152437
Anon, xqc audience is, unironically, mostly kids. Just like with Ninja back on his peak.
Also, you are overstimating how many kids are watching Gura.
Is like Nintendo Switch, the popular belief was that mostly kids use the console but then Nintendo threw number and kids were the least interested on the Switch unlike adults.

>>15152407
No her latest stream had 1k viewers. And Reimu is one of the NijiEN worst performers.

am a holobronies but I admit that Niji males are superior.
wanted to see starsEN but alas, won't happen. they could be the corporate male EN pioneer like their female counterpart but nah.

>>15152376
Remember Gura's first streams? That fucking Maneater disaster? Don't judge people on few early streams.

I didn't know we had so many muslims and orthodox on /vt/. guys can fawn over girls, but girls aren't allowed to fawn over guys as only whores do that

If Hololive came out with male members (not Holostars, just Hololive but male) How would that go over?

>>15152847
You are reading post-/r9k/ and what's more, post-2015 4chan

>>15152921
They could maybe get away with it if it's just in HoloEN, but they would still be ostracized from collabing with JP

>>15152921
Shit just like in JP. Hololive males have even more restrictions than females.

he's a gimmick
which is the trouble of debuting and presenting yourself as "i have voice training" and nothing else
Choco-sensei is one of the oldest examples of this, my friends getting into vtubing would find her and go oh my god she has such a sexy sultry voice then they realized she's boring and kinda uninteresting once that high of her voice wears off
This has happened to Kronii most recently in HoloEN except she's not boring she's just fucking mentally unstable
It'll wear off for these women to, a voice can only carry you so far until it just becomes mundane for your listener and then you're responsible for having give them a reason to keep listening because they've just grown used to it. It isn't like singing where you can change it up and blow people away with different ways of singing singing different songs, this is the way you talk

>>15153174
Huge cope. Women fawn over handsome men when they are vegetables.

>>15153174
Oh my he copin

>>15153232
Those women are clinical cases that need to be in a psyche ward and an anecdote is not fact

>>15153276
>>15153232

*inserts quarter*
say another line npc kun!
which discord channel we erping in tonight?

>>15153174
All vtubers are gimmicks, but this right here is the Alpha harem dynamic being displayed in real time.

>>15153343
None, but if I was you would not be invited. No cummies for you

>>15153343
Is the discord channel talking in your head right now?

>>15153351
>alpha
This nigga whored himself before vtubing hes not alpha hes desperate for money

>>15152564
>>15152456
Cant wait for the next nijiEN wave that has mediocre success so you guys can act like it's the age of nijisanji, only for them to plummet back down to 800-1.5k average peak viewership

>>15152262
Accents are part of a voice, to deny one aspect is just tomfoolery.

>>15137332
By being legitimately funny and having great chemistry, also playing cool games like Dark Souls

>>15153554
He's cool. His smash stream properly conveyed his fun side with all the toxic and salty comments. My favourite part was when he dunked on some dude and shouted "GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY STREAM."

>>15153482
keep on coping homie

>>15153728
Sell me on him outside of his voice and outside of generic personality descriptions of "he is cool". Thats his model also doing a lot of heavy lifting, you stick this dude in something as ugly as Shu he's sold up the river.

In Nijisanji the males are all more popular than the females. In hololive it's the opposite

>>15153827
I can't sell you on him. Guy has a nice personality, seemingly pretty good taste (in my opinion) and cool looking avatar. That's it

>>15153928
Nijisanji is just mainly normal folks looking for some entertainment which is exactly what Nijisanji prides itself having because the huge number of streamers means there's probably some liver for everyone.

With Hololive, a lot of it is also casual folks who want something to pass the time but a significant enough portion are idolfags and lonely guys who want those girls to fill a void in their life. Which is how watching them just a bunch of times can turn some innocuous but lonely dudes into full fledged unicorns.

Stars is completely different from the other two. You'd think that they just target women but the demographics of their streams just doesn't reflect that. What they actually provide are mainly streams to chill and tune into, they're actually far more akin to bro-streamers that the west is known for but with a tinge of Idolness to it.

>>15145701
because people here spend their time griefposting on /vt/ instead of chatting with girls on discord

>>15152350
They unironically do. This board is 80% Hololive most of the time.

>>15153351
Not familiar with Nijisanji, but top HoloJPs are actually good, professional streamers with talent and work ethic. Unless you unironically think Amouranth, Pokimane and other various wenches are up to Pekora or Marine's level, which would be a rather transexual thing to do.

>>15153928
They have way more girls and they share fanbase with Hololive. Males have monopoly.

>>15137426
I don't want them to be big

>>15140813
The fox is utter shit.

>>15154656
This is actually baseless and stupid
Gundou Mirei whore ass does not have crossover with someone like Suisei and the list goes on

>>15142165
I doubt a lot of females watch their gaming streams. I watched Vox play DS2 because it was shill and I like the game. Probably would have watched a girl streamer instead if he was not on.

>>15154786

>>15154874
sorry. not into grannies.

>>15140574
at the expense of the niji EN females

>>15154792
Yes this is why their chats mention the other corp all the fucking time.

>>15154983
Bullshit. Girls didn't drop at all.

>>15155021
yes anon, you only watch nijien and this mean the same for every branch..

>>15154293
it was created due to hololive popularity in the first place

>>15153827
He's got clumsy dad vibes

It does not matter. Roasties will never send superchats

>>15156072
>t. Didn't watch Mysta's last stream

>>15137385
>implying that this isn't a falseflagger's doing

>>15137332
EN Fujos real

>>15156111
I don't watch male vtubers. I know women will not send superchats. It Is not their nature. Gay men will but they are a small market.

>>15140624
Chloe had shit numbers and she's the one popping off the most.

>>15139508
True. Can confirm as a chumbud.

>>15137352
peak Holocope

>>15156215
Mysta's viewership is 60% female. He couldn't breath without being sent superchats in that stream. You are wrong.

>>15141817

>>15156215
> I know women will not send superchats.
That must be why his top donators so far are all female

>>15151150
The homo market is also tiny. Maybe 5% of males are homo at the very most, so it's a niche market. Size alone indicates it's probably women being thirsty over their pretty boy idol.

>>15156215
>I know women will not send superchats
Women are bar-none, the most carefree with their money especially in small bursts. They might not aka, but they will 5 to 50 like its a trip to starbies and panera

>>15137332
I have to admit Nijisanji did a pretty good job though.
At first glance I was thinking those streams will mostly target females and a few homos.
Besides girls being horny as hell in the chat, which I don't fucking care, the show itself is good and entertaining.

>>15155285
I was watching NijiJP long before this board existed.

People underestimate how much they buy merch too. Niji males merch will probably be one of their best EN merch pushes by far.

>>15152350
This board was created hololive fans for hololive fans, newfag.

>>15158252
Vox and Mysta already selling than most of the other girls

>>15137352
Only the absolutely most shortsighted or desperate greenhorned streamer would join HoloStars EN
>Hey so we will recruit you, but utterly neglect you
>You can not stream with anyone of our girls if you are initiating, but we will let a few happen if they initiate
>You will most definitely not collab with outside streamers, ever
>We probably won't make a 2nd gen, so enjoy who you get
>We also will do almost nothing to expose you, but demand a near King's Ranson in revenue from you
>Oh yea, and if you even murmur anything we perceive as disrespectful towards the company or our girls, expect to be locked out of your account by morning

>>15158492
Join, put in your year and milk the women for as much as you can before you leave while also getting connections with artists and then rebrand and take as many with you as you can without breaking NDA

>>15145576
Alright then newfag, I'll play along. Why did Artemis tank their views right on debut?

>500 CCV is a "2view"
/vt/ viewers are retarded and no chuuba should ever listen to what's said here.

>>15137332
See I look at this a different way.

>debut buff
>the most blatent pathetic pandering you can do
>only 8.5k views

With all those buff lined up this should have easily hit 20k. Very disappointing performance from NijiEN's new wave.

>>15137332
I haven't watched any of those faggots and I never will

>>15159857
They are doing what Kronii did post debut but kronii was getting 30k+ viewers and then 20k for gaming streams. Vox and the fag will be Selen teir but their fanbase will become full of women and fags.

>>15140624
There are no entertaining members of Council

>>15152130
Pitch doesn't matter
I like deep and light voice, but they have to be soft and warm. I dislike overly nasal voice or fry ones.

>>15137352
Fpbp

Oh no the homos are breeding our female vtubers

>>15137352
>