/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

https://twitter.com/ikioi_ranking/status/1473668964731715587

>>15086605
>deron would kill to get selen's numbers now.
why are seleniggers like this?
see picture.

>>15087804
This twitcasting homo is a real lady killer, not that weak nijien faggots

>>15087804
Korosan's return buff still in effect!

>>15087806
They can't help themselves anon. It's not a secret that Selenfags employ all method to shill her, including but not limited to outright using deceit.

These two alone are outdoing crabgame collab with random chatting streams

>>15087806
>>15087906
Lol they even claim that 4k+ is selen-tier

>>15087927
>during their debut buff period
Come on now anon, at least give em a few weeks before we start proclaiming them to be the grand saviors of NijiEN, though they've certainly brought a new wave of interest alongside an infestation of honry fujo/fags

>>15087806
>new fit and marika tourney buff
>selen ordinary stream
???

>>15087804
Goddamn, I thought people was shitposting when they said Marine's number is bad tonight. Was it the overlaps?

>>15088044
I don't know, you tell me

No wonder thread is slow, some of us are here >>15082171

>>15088044
>Was it the overlaps?
Anon...

>>15087991
Debut buff is already over, just look at the rest of the boys doing the same numbers as pomu. Mysta and vox are just built different

>>15087991
It’s be pretty interesting if all the new audience they bring in end up having no interest in the girls.

>>15088198

Lol they have problems with jops too

>>15088364
>ESL mod trying to make a point about speaking english

>>15088166
Mr. Koro beating Marine...

>>15088364
Bad move right there

>>15088198
For JPs, Debut Buff lasts around 3weeks
For ENs, Debut Buff lasts around 1-2 weeks.

>>15088364
Mods of the new Nijimales?
What the hell? Why are nijifags like these? they're shooting their own feet

>>15088445
no it's the namidia desert stream

>>15088364
harsh. do NijiJP channels also have the same rules?

>>15088364
Namibia Japan branch when?

>>15088364
What a fucking retard. Actively discouraging foreigners in your stream.

>>15088364
>JOP BTFO
lmao

>>15088364
Holy shit that's retarded.

>>15088364
It seems Niji really don't want to have unity between EN and JP. JP shot down EOP and EN shot down JOP. Well good luck to them.

>>15088442
mods want to form a small fan base so they will have an easier time to groom someone later in discord. #Groomersanji

>>15088364
I’m an anti now even though the Orynx is my oshi

>>15088510
the nijiENs wish they have a chat this civilized

What happened to Marine? Her recently numbers are unusual low.
>26k from Passpartout
>25k from an off-collab with Noel
>16k today

>>15088364
you fucking idiots, just let him be. I want him to be irrelevant by next week. Now you're giving him ideas.

I bet all of you feel stupid now.

>>15088364
This gotta be a psyops. right?
There's no way they are that retarded right?

Are numberfaggots retarded or something? It’s a different stream that isn’t even the nijimales.

Why are there retards so insistent on making up bullshit?

>>15088557
dunno maybe her ojisan audience are wage slaving more than usual before the new years.

>>15088516
Alienating your fanbase is a bad move, especially if you are starting your career. Then again some NijiJP's chat also hates EOP so maybe it's just Nijisanji culture.

>>15088364
Why are Namibiafags like this?

>>15088580
Anon don't watch NijiEN male and didn't expect RL stream in fucking /vt/.

>>15088557
unironically timezone, two of those streams take place far outside her usual streaming time and the other one is on Noel's channel

>>15088618
Unity is not a word in the vocabulary of Nijisanji, it's dog eats dog.

>>15088580
Anon...

>>15088580
I bet wHorse is your oshi

>>15088638
>Watching homo

>>15088557
Marine is reclining

Fubuki started 30 second earlier than midnight. Will her stream count for today then?

Kill yourselves you stupid numberfags spreading bullshit

Mysta would definitely reach 7k again if he wasn't overlapping with Vox. That boy has potential.

>>15088766
>Will her stream count for today then?
kek, yes, that's how live.ranking works.

>>15088766
yes

>>15088773
Are they waiting for the horse to get eaten by wolves?

>>15088773
anon you were the one who posted the chat at the first place kek

Did Pekora stream today?

>>15088773
Ahmed sounds like a /ringo/ regular

>>15088874
Members only

>>15088874
members only

>>15088874
Yes but members-only
>still ongoing

>>15088445
People forget but holoEN's debut buff lasted until the youtube algo change in december which leads me to believe that we aren't even sure how long it exactly lasted.

>>15088859
Nope I found the stream just to prove you stupid fags wrong for believing that bullshit

>>15088884
Kek Fucking Ahmed

>>15088859
no, it is I, I just thought it was amusing and didn't bother correcting anyone

>>15088924
>>15088914
very believable

>>15088913
Yea, that was a special case, extended by the 'Rona restrictions keeping people locked up indoors.

>>15088913
That is no mere Debut Buff.
>They basically have the EN Vtuber (Big ones) Debut Buff

>>15088445
>>15088913
the length of debut buff varies depending on circumstance and how effective they are at keeping the hype going. For example on the one hand you have NijiEN 3 who basically had no debut buff, and on the other hand you have HoloEN1 who had a 3 month long debut buff. there's no one universal time period

>OH NO NO NO NO
Fubuki started her stream a few seconds before midnight just to kick the King one position down in the ranking kek
>RUTHLESS!

>>15088557
I think Marine is now Miko 2.0, being the popular second or third option...

>>15089177
Why are you guys still using live-rank when vrabi is better in every way? They don't count numbers past midnight.

>>15089038
I agree with this point. Every day some viewers lose interest and some gain one. Debut allows for bunch of people to watch you but if you fuck up with boring contend they will leave. If you keep doing interesting content you will slowly turn tourists into regulars. HoloX are very good at riding that hype wave, but in February we will probably see their real numbers, after that they may incline or decline again but it's probably not going to be debut buff.

>>15089262
>when vrabi is better in every way
In some 3 or 4 months when vrabi proves the hosting costs won't overwhelm them (or similar bullshit excuse to close down shop) people will consider them

>>15088773
Nobody spread bs it's the truth. Namibia mods did ban jOPs. Nobody say anything about niji, your fault for jumping in conclusion

>>15089305
>People
It's literally one guy who makes the daily ranking chart and he prefers to use live ranking. It's not like we got together to vote about this shit

>>15088884
Kek my side
He is also probably the OP kek

>>15089298
>People
It's literally one guy who makes the daily ranking chart and he prefers to use live ranking. It's not like we got together to vote about this shit

>>15089381
and you're the other anon who for some reason wont stop shilling on vrabi. You will never have my trust, chinese hacker.

>>15088364
how the fuck did this happen
is this some 2016 meme magic shit again?

>>15089381
He does use Nijimado and Holostats for more accurate numbers when there are possible change of position in the top10.

>>15089486
You’re really retarded>>15088773

>>15089458
I shill it because it's basically vnuma but better, piss off

>30,468 watching now
30k get for FBKing

>>15089511
I meant about JOPs actually getting this shit recommended to them by us just talking about it here.

>>15089542
Kinggu..

>Mori got 5k tonight
kneel

> Haachama goes from 4k to 4.7k by muting herself and starting typing stuff.
Tabbed out viewer cull confirmed again

Honestly I think part of the reason why yona yona journey isn't doing as well as the others is, apart from the reupload issue, the fact that it doesn't loop very well.

>>15089655
It's been common knowledge.
People who deny this are just twitchfags

>>15089712
I wish there was some way to confirm whether picture-in-picture mode culled viewers.

>>15088364
What the hell? They're slowly killing themselves here.

>>15089542
Pokemon permission is expiring soon, can Fubuki be saved?

The Taiwanese really are something else...

>>15088557
Reclining

What went wrong to HoloJP?
Are they really dying?

>>15090153
ouch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FuxPcjUP9g
New 2stacks animation

>>15089749
I think it does, because I do it from time to time and the number changes suddenly every time I tab in. I can reliably check it though.

Damn Mista steadily climed from 4400 to 5600. He's just getting more and more popular.

While Vox's entire fanbase appears to be 13 year old girls

>>15090153
Those are nijien numbers jesus

>>15090328
Yeah because Vox ended stream, they both share the same viewers

>>15090153
Where's fubuki dipshit?

>>15090153
(You)

>>15089515
It's not better since it doesn't have a lot of vtubers.

>>15090375
It's just not true anon. He was climbing steadily the entire time vox was streaming

>>15090027
Hololive is basically a state religion in taiwan at this point

>>15090328
Wasn't that Vox stream just a superchat reading? Quite impressive numbers for that.

>>15090153
Intentionally leaving out the streams that got high numbers

>>15090153
>>15090402
>Besides Fubuki everyone in HoloJP is dying
Hahahahahahaha feels good nijichads!

>>15090519
It was an unplanned stream. I think he got some advice that streaming earlier could help him get more Asian viewers. And they were right, like half the people donating were from China and Taiwan.

>>15090027
Nenechi's stream today also had more NT$ than Yen in superchats, they really love their blondes there it seems

>>15090536
Even thought she broke 10k it's still low for her

>>15090677
Yeah i do agree.
But showing only the low numbers and starts shitting on them is idiotic.
Show this, Towa(2), Koyori, Korone, Laplus and all of the others before you claim its dying

>>15090783
Do you think collab numbers are their nomal numbers?

How do we save Kson's numbers?

>>15089644
Most of the money is just a few paypigs sending over $100

>>15090814
I never said its their normal numbers.

I just said you intentionally cherry picked low number streams and go Oh No What happened? JP is dying omg

>he's arguing with Reimu
KWAB

>>15090867
What's your point?
Numbers are numbers
This is how gachikois work

>>15090856
How do we save Nijisanji ? Just one stream in the top 10 for the biggest vtuber company ? Are they dying ? Just 4 streams above 10k.

>>15090949
It can't be saved.

>>15090949
is not tournament day pls understand..

>>15090783
You're replying to bait retard, just report if you're really mad

>>15088364
who?

>Mori streaming to 6.4k viewers
>Haachama streaming to 4.1k viewers
>Mysta streaming to 5.4k viewers
Unicorn bros... what the fuck is going on. the male’s debut is over but his numbers aren’t going down... you told me they’d be reclining by now...

>>15090153
Even with clickbait Haachama can't even break 10k anymore

HOLOLIVE WIN

>>15091147
That's 30% off of what he had yesterday.

>>15091147
>7.5k yesterday
>Mysta streaming to 5.4k viewers
Looks reclining to me

On the NijiEN merch selling front, both Vox and Mysta are in the top five best selling in the branch

>>15091162
>Only can win with totsumachi and tourament
Hololive is not that different with nijisanji

>>15091259
How can you see the numbers of merch sold by each member?

>knows Japanese
>streams only during burger hours
This guy is a fucking idiot. He's going to be the runt of his gen and waste all his potential.

>>15091323
It's in my head, I won't share it

>>15091373
He looks disgusting too

>>15091147
>the male’s debut is over

Jeez RBC, how the hell can a Hololive member lose this hard to a Dotlive playing a 27 year-old VN?

>>15090831
What's her numbers today?

>>15091147
SEAtranny you can't even english

>>15091319
>remove Totsu and Towa
>hololive still wins
Sad cope.

>>15091323
>How can you see the numbers of merch sold by each member?
You can't see the numbers, but on the site you can order by best selling so
https://nijisanji-store.com/collections/first-step-goods/?sort_by=best-selling

>>15091416
nijisanji designs are anime niche

>>15091513
Pekora and fubuli doesn't count ether it's special streams

>>15091319
You forgot to add outfit reveals, 3D debut, Birthdays, Anniversaries, and Concerts.

>>15091436
I think it’s literally down to her shitty mic

>>15091579
and fishing, apparently

Mysta is starting to get into low Holo numbers.

The typical nijisanji stream is about 1/4 or 1/5 of a typical hololive stream.
The boys appear to be about 2x as popular as the girls right now. Which places them at low-holo level.

>autism vs
>tourney buff
is this the best nijisanji can do nijibros?

>>15091579
And pekora's stream. She still has the most gold in Q4 afterall.

>>15091579
Basically Hololive wouldn't win if they never streamed

>>15091518
Reimu..

>>15091575
fubuli?

>>15091673
Hell yea, let's go! He will be mogging Lui and Koyori in a week.

>>15091673
I don't care about their numbers now, come back in 2 weeks with those numbers and I'll be impressed

>>15091673
To be fair right now i was curious why the numbers increase and he is in voice call with Ike.

>>15089223
Marine is now a tier lower because she had 3 days of bad numbers due to pretty obvious reasons.

>>15091810
nijis visit each other's streams all the time, that's part of watching a niji stream. It's not out of the ordinary at all

nijiJP are failures

>>15091749
Just a 989% increase to beat Koyori, I'm sure it'll be easy

>>15091864
Ok, but is one of the first time for them or not?

bets on when this lgbt raid is going to end?

>>15091881
It's going to be pretty interesting if Mysta actually ends being more popular than Edengumi. He definitely has that chance since Selen still gets her post-debut numbers on a regular basis.

>>15091960
When anon stop replying to it and start postin NUMBER.

>>15091960
Didn’t it take a month for edengumi to tank?

>>15092069
Around 10 days and then 2 months later they fell below 5k.

>>15091881
I really hope Mysta keeps up these high numbers. He’s sucking away Chronoir’s EOP fanbase like crazy and even getting some of the JOPs too.

Next NijiEN male wave is going to be the deciding factor. I'm guessing they might get the fable 50k CCV.

>>15092180
I think these are his numbers. Ethyria didn't have these numbers post debut. I don't think there's a debut buff for NijiEN, since by the third day they start to level to normal.

What do you think new NijiEN can do to buff up their numbers even more to avoid being a fad?

>>15092259
>Ethyria didn't have these numbers post debut
kek, of course they didn't. Spamming SC, watchalongs and zatsus

>>15092259
Try to appeal to males. Even the faggiest of NijiMales have a majority male audience. Pander enough to females in zatsudans to make sure you get some paypigs too.

>15092259
newfag tranny everybody knows you're samefagging. You're not smart.

>>15092326
Ethyria killed all their hype on those first days with that approach. The boys have been different, because even if they do SC reading, it isn't that shilled.

How come Vox and Mysta are doing so much better than the others?

Group B of Holo MK is rather strong for viewership. It has Pekora, Gura and even Lapus. I swear, if they have only group POV, this one might bring at least 50k CCV.

this fucking timeloop, is it so hard for fags to find some rope?

>>15092429
Mysta has good twitter engagement. Vox is to be expected, since he has 'the voice' and sexy character. They also have somewhat good schedules. I don't know why Shu choose to debuff himself at burger hours. Luka is learning and pushing his schedules as far, far, far away from his wave mates. I think he's noticed that the later the stream, the better the numbers for him are

>>15092429
They have a very "idol" aura and SEA women are thirsty for white cocks. I have a feeling Niji management might push for these two to be the BTS of Niji.

>>15092469
Too bad it will last only 1 stream since Towa, Suisei and Aqua in the same team mean Gura and Pekora will be out of the game early

>>15091673
LET'S GO MANJISANJI!

>>15092478
it's hard to find rope in SEA

>>15092544
theres a losers cup

>>15092429
Vox is the standout of the gen,
Hell, he fulfills a real demand among all corpo male vtubers, the deep voiced suave good lucking anime boy that's willing to say all those embarrassing lines for thirsty fans.

As much as people were down bad for Banderas or Oga, they're not voice actors and didn't fill that role completely.

Mysta has the EU hours buff, he's basically alone in the timeslot and attracting a lot of people who can't watch the rest.

>>15092609
>EU

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>58,518: Koyori (Hololive)
>44,132: Towa (Hololive)
>39,982: Towa (Hololive)
>33,954: Fubuki (Hololive)
>26,599: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,832: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,577: Korone (Hololive)
>16,938: Marine (Hololive)
>14,964: Laplus (Hololive)
>14,596: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,579: Haachama (Hololive)
>13,471: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,071: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,978: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,977: Nene (Hololive)
>10,879: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,830: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,469: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,235: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,233: Flare (Hololive)

>>15092609
I'm hoping to see their first collab numbers. I'm sure it'll be higher than the girls, but I wonder if it'll be higher than Mysta's views.

>>15092469
A single group POV is guaranteed to bring 100k+ peak ccv, but they will probably split.

>>15092594
Still out of the game early

>>15092594
I don't think either of them are able to be the last 3, well maybe La+.

>>15092669
mr koro beating marine, rarity buff is real

How close are we to seeing NijiEN in the daily top?

>>15092669
Finally pink Lamy gets a medal.

>>15092669
>no medals
>only 4 entries
maybe we need another lottery nijibros...

Now that one or two NijiMales will pass Sana can they beat the next boss? Bae has a median of 6529 and an average of 9022. Fauna has a median of 8005 and an average of 7921. Kronii and Mumei are out of reach most likely.

>>15092704
if im not mistaken losers cup goes before the main finals
>>15092733
losers cup its not the last 3 lol

>>15092793
Why aim for them when they can ain for Pekora? If Corpse Daddy can incline, so can they.

>>15092669
Gee, Towers. They let you have 2 medals?

>spamming/flooding

>>15092770
We already do? Selen, Millie and Elira are already consistently in the daily top for Superchats

If the new NijiEN wave can make some connection with other big streamers, I'm sure they will incline like crazy.

>>15092669
still wonder why theres so much bait and cooldownposting on the thread today?

>>15092802
Loser cup is for the last 3 in each group.

>>15092669
Guerilla Karaokes have lost their buff for Mumei. Getting 14k is fucking low for her.

>>15092894
"You" do? Okay Reimu, back to your crib.

>>15092669
How many days has Niji won this month?

>>15092669
>>13,579: Haachama (Hololive)
That one's stream clickbait thumbnail and hashtag worked too well.
I saw it a few hours ago at 499k but it dropped a bit since.
Still getting a lot more live and archive viewers than normally.

>>15092802
>>15092969
Kek then Pekora and Gura will most likely not participate that either, or only one of them

>>15092949
christmas week

>>15092894
>consistently in the daily top for Superchats
They're not, not for any meaningful interpretation of the word "consistently"

>>15092770
Maybe for Luxiem full collab this Friday.

>>15093096
Big Maybe
Not sure with how top 10 has been

>>15092969
>things that towa never said

>>15092933
they've already collabed with big streamers though

>>15093011
22/22

Every time there is a debut from niji/Holo/or God knows where the collective IQ of this thread goes from shit to just outright retarded, with fortune telling tier extrapolations on how the debuts will surely be the NEXT BIG THING.

* DECEMBER GOLDS SO FAR *

1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Calli (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 89,652 - Niji Mario Kart Lottery&Rules
11) Ame (Hololive) - 74,496 - Outfit Reveal
12) Gura (Hololive) - 112,093 - Outfit Reveal
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 99,651 - Birthday 3D
14) Chloe (Hololive) - 31,961 - Evil God Korone
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,956 - Announcement
16) Fubuki (Hololive) - 42,374 - Pokemon
17) Haruka (Nijisanji) - 25,019 - 3D debut
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 69,242 - Mario Kart Tournament
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 187,336 - Outfit reveal
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,691 - Pokemon
21) Toya (Nijisanji) - 78,645 - Niji Mario Kart Finals Lottery
22) Koyori (Hololive) - 58,518 - Totsumachi

>>15093011
4, About usual actually, because of the MK tournament.

DECEMBER
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Calli (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 89,652 - Niji Mario Kart Lottery&Rules
11) Ame (Hololive) - 74,496 - Outfit Reveal
12) Gura (Hololive) - 112,093 - Outfit Reveal
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 99,651 - Birthday 3D
14) Chloe (Hololive) - 31,961 - Evil God Korone
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,956 - Announcement
16) Fubuki (Hololive) - 42,374 - Pokemon
17) Haruka (Nijisanji) - 25,019 - 3D debut
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 69,242 - Mario Kart Tournament
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 187,336 - Outfit reveal
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,691 - Pokemon
21) Toya (Nijisanji) - 78,645 - Niji Mario Kart Finals Lottery
22) Koyori (Hololive) - 58,518 - Call in

>>15091985
Even if his viewers get slashed in half, he'll still do better than 3/5 of Edengumi.

>>15093151
I dunno Chloe raked in shit ton of sc, La+ have consistently 20k. NijiEN male is the most successful wave yet.

Huh, this is funny, I don't think she usually gets these numbers

>>15092793
>Sana
avg 4281
med 3156

I think they'll make it. NijiSisters, we finally won against a holo.

>>15093275
Didn't she broke 4k few days ago?

>>15091518
The top three being Pomu, Selen, Elira is pretty expected, then Vox, Mysta who will probably be selling more as time goes on. I don't know how big debutbuff is for merch. Millie is unexpectedly low, 10th right now. And Reimu last, maybe not unexpected but still a bit sad that the only underperforming luxiem outsells her right after debut

>>15093181
What events are left that can take Gold?
23) La+ and Shion collab - if it happens
24) Chigusa 3D?
25) Some Holo Christmas

31) Nijisanji New Year special

>>15093340
>La+ and Shion collab - if it happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sglm1zgbDP4

>>15093275
Lately she has
>>15093309
Yes, but that was a birthday 3D

>>15092894
>Selen, Millie and Elira are already consistently in the daily top for Superchats
Sure. I just checked Elira's superchats and she has below 10k for the entire month

>>15093387
Shion was feeling sick and went to the doctors today. Might not have been serious, but that's why i said if it happens.

Vox is definitely the top earner of his wave. Mysta comes second, then Shu > Ike > Luca

>>15093535
Oh, I see

>>15093476
Not really sure but didn't chieri got a small incline too when she started her ocarine of time gameplay?

IT'S SHOWING UP ON MY FUCKING FEED NOW WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU GUYS DO

>>15093340
We will see what the fuck Pekora gonna do on Christmas. She haven't revealed it yet and there's 2 days left
All we know is that she really emphasize "THAT" when she mentioned it

>>15093307
Where did you get these numbers?

>>15092669
Hololive 16
Nijisanji 4

Hololive got 9-1 of the top ten and swept the medals. Towa won two medals and Koyori adds to the Gen 6 list.

Gen 6 - 5
Nijisanji - 4
Gen2 - 4
Gen3 - 3
Myth - 3
Gamers - 1
Gen1 - 1

Nijisanji looks like they will probably beat Pekora for the month. Gen 6 will probably fall too..

>>15093653
You watched it...

>>15093340
24 is Christmas eve so lots of holos will have special streams that may beat it. 26 and 27 is Niji marika.

>>15093476
.LIVE is inclining boys! Watch out Hololive, we're going to party like it's 2019

Why is everyone shitposting about the quests room time? Fucking everyone was streaming.

>>15093736
are they finally taking the second spot from niji? sweet!

>>15093674
wtf happens to her amongus collab
isn't that supposed to be on christmas?

>>15093736
Slow and steady .LIVEbros all according to Baacharu's 4 year plan.

>>15093674
If you are thinking of pekomiko christmas you need your meds anon...

>>15093757
>everyone
one schizo

>The christmas gift's from mori are hologra-like shorts

fucking rebroadcasters. stealing views

>>15093811
>amongus collab
with fans or other holomems?

>>15093811
Rushia as co-organiser is out of the picture. Relying on pekora alone to organise any large collab is impossible. Shelved until after Holofes3.

>>15093892
More like anime shorts.

>>15093892
stop dreaming

>>15089644
6.5k now

Flare just mentioned that gen 3 has been intentionally avoiding overlaps for 2 years since the beginning maybe(?).
They're using a shared calendar to schedule their streams for the week apparently. While it's been fairly apparent for everyone here at /#/, it's nice to have it confirmed.

>>15094005
she just announced it

>>15093848
Bro, she mentioned "THAT" will happen on Christmas in one of her SC reading. Yes she literally use "THAT" to refer to it

>>15093584
I guess not? Maybe a little bit compared to 4-5 months ago.
That was annoying to skim through, since vrabi only has data going back 1 month
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCP9ZgeIJ3Ri9En69R0kJc9Q/videos

Looks like her numbers come in waves, lower end is 400-600, higher is 800-1200 outside of events.
Now she's in a higher wave, but she was getting these numbers in October too.

On a side note, guessing this 3D design was passable back in 2018 but it looks pretty dated today. Not terrible, but not that appealing to what new vtuber fans end up thinking standard quality is.

If .Live and Shiro do want to incline, they really should invest in some Live2D models to get with the times.
They're 3D would be way more expensive to upgrade i think.

>>15093832
>>15093736
>>15093476
Shitposting aside, how do you even save .LIVE? Will rebranding the agency along with revamp of old talents and new debuts work?

>>15094005
More like the UMISEA thing

>>15094062
It was confirmed awhile ago, Marine and Pekora both talked about it during their collab in 2020 and I'm pretty sure it was mentioned before that too.

>>15093181
Medal count
Hololive: 18G 18S 22B, total 58
Nijisanji 4G 3S 0B, total 7
merise 0G 1S 0B, total 1

If we add in since Nov 22nd
Hololive 26G 25S 29B, total 80
Nijisanji 4G 4S 1B, total 9
merise 0G 1S 0B, total 1

Hololive has won about 88% of medals in the past 30 days. I think they haven't lost a top ten since September. It's been complete dominance as of late.

>>15094062
Anon, they confirmed it sine 2019, they have set primetime hours between them and keep bringing it every now and then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E1zCTYVqqo
They have changed stream time a few times but prime time usually stays the same, Rushia at 18, etc.

>>15094062
Anon...this has been mentioned multiple times directly by Gen 3 members...notably Rushia and Noel earlier this year.

>>15094269
>Medal count since Nov 22nd
>Hololive 26G 25S 29B, total 80
Gods
>Nijisanji 4G 4S 1B, total 9
peesants

>>15092861
She’s not called Tokyo ‘Twin’ Tower for her oppai

>>15094116
Rebrand and some design changes.
>>15094114

It looks like an outdated company and concept, mostly surviving off of their old gachis.

Talents are good, the income's still nice and they're still slowly growing but on the lower end.
They're not attractive to the big current vtuber watchers.
They're far from the top3 they used to be and even Holostarts colalbs are a + in getting new viewers, despite them still getting higher CCV.

>>15094488
Which YAB was .LIVE? I don't browse rrats and gossip
I don't think a rebrand would work tho

>>15094247
>>15094277
>>15094343
Yeah, I figured they must've talked about it at some point. Just thought I'd mention it since I haven't seen anyone bring any of those occasions up here before when the subject came up.

Remember the 3d Pomu thingy ? Oopsie.
She will never reach 200k

>>15094586
.live is the one with the Sio black company accusations

>>15094586
First version

>>15094626
manekun are u here? just let them use it, where did ur creative freedom go?

>>15094626
This wouldn't've happened if Pomu was a male

>>15090949
on normal days this is the best they can do

>>15094626
It’d be pretty funny that they told her she can’t do it because it resembles a real 3D too much (similar to Hololive)

>>15094114
It looks fine in still images but the tracking completely falls apart in motion. I actually think the standard vroid models are better at tracking these days.

>>15094116
They had some new debuts at the start of this year, they're not doing *that* terribly but they get around half the viewers of the former Idol-bu members
>>15094586
The Tama/Sio stuff was the main killer (I'm sure someone will post the copypasta, it's not perfect but close enough to being a good short explanation), then the final nail in the coffin was this April when they shitcanned half of the remaining Idol-bu members. As someone who watched quite a bit of Natori when she was around and her reincarnation now she's back that company is never getting another cent from me ever again

>>15090949
No need. There are 3million Livers in Niji. Even if all of them are 2view, they would still mog holol 20 times over.
Doesn't Niji have a lot of chuuba in the 4digits? Overall, Niji numbers should be comparable to holols.

>>15094948
>Idol-bu
Wait hold on a minute, are they the ones who triggered the whole "VA replacement" controversy or am I thinking of a different group?

>>15093883
and you replied to him

>>15094729
Unless they really do want to "fix" something, like give her black shorts to not flash underwear, than that would be the most likely reason.

Despite its flaws, 3D that good, gotten for free from a fan? (as far as i heard)
That raises a lot of questions about Nijisanji's 3D modeling quality and procedures. Plus, it might make some "fans" feel like others in the company aren't treated with respect if if Pomu gets such a good model sooner.

>>15094998
Head to head, Hololive has more people watching them most times of the day (except when no one is streaming)

>>15095075
That was Game-bu, similar name but totally unrelated

>>15094998
Anon, all of niji put together could maybe put together one quarter of the audience hololive gets, this thread typically compares total CCV per company and niji almost always loses despite usually having three times the number of people streaming.

>>15094645
>>15094679
>>15094948
Sio yo...
Thank you, anons. I do remember bits of that pasta. Four Heavenly Kings era really was black company wars. perfect segue way: any numbers of the olden days, by any chance?

>>15095163
ah, right, thanks.

>>15094998
I guess outside of baiting (like that one Subaru vs combined Niji) we don't actually put the CCV and overall watch time head to head each day.

I'd imagine despite fewer daily hours streamed and fewer members, HoloJP is still way ahead almost every day to the entire Nijisanji combined fores in December. Apart for those 2 days of MK.

>>15095267
>Apart for those 2 days of MK.
thats why they have to put out tournament every month, they will never be seen otherwise

>>15095267
Back when Kuzuha was strong, he accounted for 30-40% of all Nijisanji viewership during prime time.

>>15095109
My guess is that local management (her direct manager or branch manager) gave her approval but a higher up from Japan heard about it and rejected it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FuxPcjUP9g
> New 2manysnacks animation
Number predictions?

>>15095407
There is a reason we used to post this image when posting about kuzuha

>they already play games all the time
>call and scream at each other in the middle of the night
>similar interests in game and content
>purple mesugaki
>both loli teenagers


is tomorrow the start of a new power duo?
One to rival MiComet?

I predict their numbers will just keep growing over the next month.

>>15095604
It's cute and nice but not very repeatable and doesn't have many jokes or a strong punchline.

will get a million in a month, possibly faster once Nene, Polka and Kiara talk about it.

>>15094626
oh no no, creative freedom chads, we got too cocky...

>>15095690
If Shion can stream regularly sure why not.

>>15095690
I hope she cures Shion’s depression, everyone in Hololive is way older than her iirc

>>15095870
More cunny sex

>>15095115
>>15095196
>>15095267
Holo by their nature definitely have more overlapping fanbases though. Also, how much would VirtuaReal affect niji's numbers?
speculation of numbers is on-topic right

>>15095870
Only Haachama was within a year of Shion, but i get the feeling Shion was scared of her.

>>15095690
Lol seeing people tagging along like this kind of make me feel bad for Pekora. Feel like she have nothing in common with the rest of Hololive at time

Actually since gamebu was mentioned in this thread it's a good time to point out the company behind that is still going, with a different name, and has some relatively successful chuubas under their belt, look at how many views these girls get on some of their covers
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPZgBtMYoFKypEG2SCvBN9A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5Xse6X7vB_nUL5HvEFVo_g
And then there's this one with nearly 200k subs and gets good views on her ASMR
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt7_srJeiw55kTcK7M9ID6g
So next time you want to shitpost about how x company is going to die just remember that the people behind maybe the biggest controversy in vtuber history are still going and making money

>>15095993
Back in the day, before the weird changes to Bili I guess VR could have made Niji competitive ... for a very short amount of time.
Before Hololive pulled out of China, the rare HoloJP streams were still way more popular than all of VR combined. And since, the changes to how live viewers are counted basically made all numbers outside of followers worthless on Bili.

>>15093557
I see one of homostar paypig there.

>>15096148
Ok, so they manage "Vtuber High", then i know all of these.

Did they rebrand?
They re-vamped their content and vtubers under them are different, but did they change names too? Because, it looks like yes, .Live could also benefit from a re-branding to grow again.

>>15093557
>FeFe
the vtuber?

>>15096148
>So next time you want to shitpost about how x company is going to die just remember that the people behind maybe the biggest controversy in vtuber history are still going and making money
I'm pretty sure all of Upd8 dwarfs them in the amount of controversy. Kizuna Ai was "too big to fail" and Upd8 still found a way to kill her.

>>15096337
yes

>>15093674
She hasn't planned any off-collab for the holidays so forget about PekoMiko, anon(she said so yesterday in her member only stream).

>>15096452 (me)
Though mischievous girl that she is, she did say that she Might or Might not have prepared something for Christmas, whatever this is will surely bring some neat numbers, I'm sure of that at least.

>>15096148
>>15096294
>>15096406
They stopped doing their black company reps?How are their numbers (in $$$$)?

Here is the number of gagged holos art (including webm) I have in my folder

Aki 3
Ame 12
Ankimo 1
Anya 4
Aqua 21
Ayame 6
Bae 1
Botan 3
Choco 4
Chloe 9
Coco 10
Echo 2
Fauna 1
Flare 4
Fubuki 35
Gura 24
Haachama 12
Iofi 1
Ina 6
Iroha 1
IRyS 1
Kanata 4
Kiara 7
Korone 12
Koyori 1
Kronii 3
Lamy 8
Laplus 1
Luna 4
Marine 45
Matsuri 11
Mel 7
Miko 5
Mio 8
Mori 18
Mumei 2
Nene 5
Noel 13
Okayu 7
Ollie 3
Pekora 14
Reine 1
Risu 4
Rui 1
Rushia 11
Shion 6
Sora 8
Subaru 5
Suisei 46
Towa 6
Watame 5

Link to the folder
https://mega.nz/folder/5tg20KTR#tv_cJVAYWvlAmQkMCXE23g

https://youtu.be/DJhGuRhEjgc?t=106
have some ancient numberfagging

Is anyone tracking memberships month by month?
Do we know if YT memberships are more "sticky" than Twitch subs?

>>15096452
I don't expect PekoMiko at all, that is why I am curious as to what she will pull
She's really good at hiding stuffs

>>15096659
Oh wow, this was right before Mori's first Trash Taste appearance.
Doesn't feel like that long ago, but it was well over 1 year.

>>15088874
No, she was too busy watching her new oshi, Oryx, in the Namibia stream.

>>15096014
I think Coco was the only person not scared of Haachama.

>>15096829
The important question is, is the Oryx male or female?

>>15096695
>Is anyone tracking memberships month by month?
No, there's no real good way to do it.

>Do we know if YT memberships are more "sticky" than Twitch subs?
Presumably yes, because you activate a subscription and it just stays there, as opposed to Twitch where people usually resubscribe.
Ironically, Super Thanks might have messed with that, since it brings memberships more frequently in people's heads.

>>15092968
You have to remember that her karaoke was happening during the heart of the Namibia sensation. I'm sure a lot of people left to watch the Oryx in Namibia.

>>15092180
Chronoir fanbase eop fanbase still is focusing on Chronoir tho. but yes i get the idea. lots of the female viewers became luxiem fans.

>>15096869
yes

>>15096829
She loved it so much she actually went to Namibia!!

>>15096991
MODS DO YOUR JOB!

>>15096940
If you scroll above you can actually see that homostar paypigs are among the donation so yeah I'm pretty sure some chronoir EOP fans are watching considering males chuubas fan are the biggest unityfags.

>>15096991
speaking of which, they've gained 1.5k subs in the last 10 hours
Sub only chat really works.

>>15097086
>>15096991
The numbers are popping off, still 2k watching in the middle of the night and every new video is getting 15k views+, when they usually barely got 5k.

>>15097063
>males chuubas fan are the biggest unityfags.
Why is that

Speaking of numbers

Vox's viewer retention is pretty high, otherwise a pretty normal night.

>>15097167
4chan is a force to be reckoned with

>>15097192
There's not many male chuubas to cater to wahmyn, fogs, cucks and shippters (which include all of the previous). That's why they constantly bitch, moan and beg for male collabs with idols, since those are the most popular chuubas.

>>15097167
Kemonobros… we lost to Namibia…

>>15097268
>Vox's viewer retention is pretty high
he is slowly bleeding viewers and thats for jsut 2 hrs

>>15097192
They are quite small in numbers and mainly want for their chuubas to get better spotlight by collabing with the more popular girls or for the more popular chuubas to get the old collab partner back (maimoto/shuba + niji males/holos from earlier gen). To clarify i'm referring more toward EOPs fans of male chuubas because JOPs fans are different story

>>15097547
Wasn’t the NijiEN thread already doing malexfemale ships and hoping that “unicorns” would leave the fanbase?

>>15097493
same happeend with his smash stream
females only last 2hrs adnt he dissapear.

This is the latest Nijisanji female audience ratio for 2021. Thoughts?

>>15097833 (me)

>>15097621
Schizos are just having a field day because they just debut, the same happens to hlgg during astel 3D. Give it time and it will return to normal.

Why is thread literally just for numbers in top ten of most active threads on this site

>>15097952
This thread is a gold mine for real info.

>>15097952
usually its because of the schizos

Thoughts on Nina having 180k likes and more than 500k views on TikTok?

>>15098122
>TikTok
nope

>>15098122
Oyabun has more followers (3.1mil) than Nina has views. Does jack shit to her CCV. So basically worthless.

>>15097833
>>15097884
how did they get these numbers?

>>15098228
Does monetization for TikTok even exist?

>>15097952
Basically:
>"neutral ground" for the board and all chuubas can be talk about freely if it's numbers related
>numbers is actually interesting to talk about when given proper context
>/biz/ talk goes here
>/news/ talk goes here
>sometimes people forget that this is /#/ and not /live chat/ or /gossip/
>/here/ chuubas constantly shitposting
>schizos constantly shitposting
>(You) constantly shiposting
I think this about covers all of the important reasons.

>>15098296
Don't forget /sp/ tier funposting

>>15098122
TikTok is a crime against humanity

>>15098257
I don't think so. Only brand deals are the way to earn money I think.

>>15098257
sponsors contacting you to shill their product on your videos

>>15098257
Its only sponsorships, anon. I don't think TikTok even has a proper monetization plan for their users.

>>15098334
I knew I was forgetting something, since, technically both tournaments, the ranks and the comparisons are /sp/ tier horse race shit. Then again, that's also /biz/...

>>15098409
what, did you really expect the chinese to give creators money for giving their product more value?

>>15098351
>>15098364
>>15098409
They also pay you per view, but the rate is terrible which is why it's mostly a side account for most youtubers.
source : videos from youtubers who do both

>Vox guerrilla jp/sea time
>4.7k overlapping with mysta
>vox normal stream eu prime time
>3.7k

>>15098559
interesting

>>15098559
There’s a lot of japs/sea in his chat.
I wonder if he’s bringing in new people or taking some from the NijiJP males

>>15098523
Yeah I checked and from the looks of it. Around $20 to $50 for a million views. It's really fucking bad.

>>15098523
>>15098619
That's why I said that they don't have a proper monetization plan; it's so bad you can't call it that.

I really want to deboonk this smug faggot.
If he's telling the truth, his wife is would be among the top 40 YouTube channels. But what of twitch?

>>15098609
Didn't Kuzuha tweeted about their debut? I'd argue is probably NijiJP male audience.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSXAKsq-Vo
>492k views
>2 days
Isegye 3DVR MV

The only thing I frown is the use of MMD, but considering their limited resource, this is passable. When they get their own 3D studio, they will completely OWN KR market

>>15098697
>top 40 YouTube channels
Anon, that's all Hololive and almost all of them earn way more than $10k/wk.

>>15090153
>youtube hiding views
>hurr durr hololive is dying!!!!1111111@@@@@

>>15098697
>EOP
>Married
Yeah unless that guy is gigguk or one of the council boyfriend then Nah bullshit.

>>15097952
not only do we watch streams, we also analyze them, strategize them, observe them and actually know what is happening on streams and what makes them go up or low. We plan or atleast try to predict the things that will help chubbas achive their potential, or examine the things that are actually holding them back. This thread plans and predicts contents a month ahead even. There are times this thread is the only one talking about streams even. All this just to be called a numberfag outside this thread. Topics can be anything and come from anywhere as long as it's numbers related. Also, tribalfag and schizos are here too so that's that.

>>15098559
Isn't the glitch stronger when more countries are involved?

>>15099129
Okay, schizo.

Laplus is at 7213 members
In less than a day
That's pretty crazy

>>15098820
You know, I find it funny that despite being one of the first company to expand oversea. All of Nijisanji’s foreign branches could be considered a failure. They spammed these branches just like how they spammed vtubers.

>>15099193
heeeeey

>>15099129
wtf are you talking about lmao

>>15098820
Anon, I don't want to be that guy, but a studio is the last thing Isegye should invest in. Unless you're making Hololive/Nijisanji money, just renting studio time is enough for the purpose of video creation and the odd 3D live with all of them together.

Wait, are you an intern trying to shill them here?

>>15097086
>>15097167
Fucking saviorfags

>>15099308
>you an intern
Yes, I met korean Gura, she's sex in bed

>>15097952
>Why is thread literally just for numbers in top ten of most active threads on this site
Schizos, schizos everywher

>>15099129
nice blog retard

>>15099301
trying to answer the question, kinda went to justifying my numberfagging too I guess.

>>15099208
perspective anon
In their first year of starting almost all the Niji Int branches were doing well, even elevating the scene, especially in ID.
None of them benefited from the big markets boom after the Hololive expansion though, despite other companies and indies rising up much bigger and faster and that was really the failure. By themselves the Niji Int branches are still doing ok.

>>15099202
Plus 5612 from the membership opening stream, which makes the actual (minimum) total 12,825
Jesas

>>15098986
>Council
>earning $10k a week
With their SCs nowadays that would require like 20k members assuming the 30/35/35 YouTube/Cover/talent cut.

>>15092968
She’s been doing at least one per week for the past four weeks. It’s still a buff, but more on par with the Minecraft buff for her, rather than something beyond that.

>>15099759
they make far more from ads and premium than sc

>>15099986
and membership and some from sponsors.

>>15099750
HOLD THAT THOUGHT.
When was that frame out up? If you didn't know, memebeship joining messages are actuallu displayed across all active frames(including waiting rooms). As such, that 7k is her memeebrs TOTAL since she opens membership if that frame and chat was up since she memebeship stream.

>>15100108
It’s there from the start so yeah, should be 7k.

Hololivers don't earn much money.

>>15098559
I think games like DS 2 are not very suitable for a female audience. He needs to play more casual and peaceful games.