/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

JP Avatar Awards 2021, for anyone who is looking for ideas/design inspiration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dda3r0xqLJc&ab_channel=VRM%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%82%A2%E3%83%A0

when the fuck are they opening up new auditions?

>>15059211
IIRC the last big announcement was in March, so probably around then. At least assuming you’re talking about the big guys.

Selen bump.

>>15059211
Six months give or take. For most corporations that's how long it took to debut new gens and then open auditions again.

>>15059211
No idea about Holo, but before Niji's Luxiem were announced, some anon said that the Nijiguys would come in two waves of 5.
This was unbelievable at the time because no foreign Niji branch had a 5-person wave before, but that's exactly what Luxiem turned out to be, and if it's true that they already have another wave coming, new auditions might be a good while away.
It probably depends on how quickly and to what size their collective audience grows. I doubt even Niji would want to spread themselves too thin.

>>15059211
It takes about 6 months of prepwork to launch and release a generation of vtubers. Do the maths from the last auditions to figure it out.

>>15058784
I have a distinct voice. What if people link me to shit I did in the past. Do I just never respond to any accusations etc. no matter what?

>>15064149
unless you sound like TVwasTaken, no one will give a fuck.

>>15064215
I pissed off some activists once upon a time, and I think they might still be butthurt about it. How do you hide your identity in steam? Or do I just need to make a completely different steam account?

>>15064392
>I pissed off some activists once upon a time
why do you think these activists would be browsing 2view vtubers from 4chan? this is autism, read the guides in the OP.

>>1506444
You know what, you're right. I'm probably just being entirely paranoid.

Out of curiosity, is it alright to start streaming to your friends?

>>15067961
are your friends okay with being recorded and broadcast? other than that what's the point in asking this in /asp/?

>>15068019
>are your friends okay with being recorded and broadcast?
Huh? No, I mean streaming to them as your starting audience while you build a legit audience.

>>15068654
last time an /asp/ie streamed to their friends, they constantly shat on them and threatened to irl dox information by referring to the chuuba with their real name instead of the chuuba name. your friends might be different but keep in mind how it's going to taint your chat when a new viewer pops in and it's just all inside jokes between you and your friends from irl.

If you shouldn't post your pic in "drop your png" threads and you shouldn't go for "networking threads", how the fuck are you supposed to network???? Thinking about doing some Twitter while I'm at work to save some time (no laptop so that's basically only thing I can do and I have lots of breaks that I can use)

>>15068740
>last time an /asp/ie streamed to their friends, they constantly shat on them and threatened to irl dox information by referring to the chuuba with their real name instead of the chuuba name.
Sheesh. Imagine calling that your friends.

>>15069148
>If you shouldn't post your pic in "drop your png" threads and you shouldn't go for "networking threads", how the fuck are you supposed to network????
"Drop your png" threads aren't networking. Do you genuinely believe people are going through and interacting with each other from pngs they post for clout chasing?

Don't think about "networking" until you're established as a chuuba. Instead you should be using Twitter to market yourself. Share relatable memes, funny content, talents or highlights from your streams. You want to consistently put things out so people notice that you're creating content of various forms.

"Networking" is a meme and doesn't matter to small chuubas. At best you create good content and get noticed by larger creators. That still goes back to the first part about marketing yourself.

fine, i'll bump it this time. but 3 bumps in a row and i leave this dead thread for good.

What are some good skills to have for an audition? I’m learning video editing already but I feel like I need to have more to stand out

>>15074787
>I feel like I need to have more to stand out
you should be showcasing skills that you'll be using as a talent while streaming. video editing is useless for a chuuba since corpos that are worth their salty will already have editors for you. anything you can turn into a performance on stream is valuable.

>>15074787
>I feel like I need to have more to stand out
do you have any talents? experience streaming? anything to offer aside from your application video?

>>15075756
I’m trilingual and I have a musical background playing viola and guitar but I haven’t played much since I graduated high school. I think I can get back into it pretty easily though. I’m also trying to learn the basics of singing as well. If you know anything else that would be good please share

>>15075912
What about experience creating content? Those are some great talents to have though especially if you can get back into them and show them that. Aside from learning video editing, really all you can do is show off your skills and experience in an entertaining manner.

>>15076008
Honestly I haven’t really made much content aside from fiddling around with music production programs. Vtubing was the first thing that really peaked my interest as something I thought I could actually do successfully. I also helped my friend write some comedy skits in high school but I wouldn’t really call that creating content.

>>15076223
You should definitely look into streaming first to see if you even like it then and dip your toes into actual content creation. Instruments and music are a huge buff for getting seen as well so I don't think you'd have much trouble with making some "look at me" content.

>>15075912
>since I graduated high school
>helped my friend write some comedy skits in high school
why do you keep saying this? how old are you? if this "high school" thing is from a decade ago, none of it will matter. if you graduated this May then gtfo.

Bump
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>>15076636
I’m in my second year of university

>>15076730
So you've got two years, minimum, without creating?

Time to start, friendo

This is maybe a retarded question, but how do you go about even starting to create a character for your model/png? I haven't got any artistic talent whatsoever. Do I just shoot commissions at artists with text descriptions and reference images until someone makes something I like?

>>15079696
Find things you like in character design - patterns in clothing, styles of clothing, styles of art, items of clothing/interest.

Do you have an idea on what you want?

For instance, if you were going for "Mothman, but he's got an office job", I'd want:
- a(t least one) picture of mothman in a style I like.
- close ups of moth eye/antenna, if there's one in particular I like - silkmoths have fronds on both sides of the antenna, white moth on one, and death's head doesn't have (big) fronds at all
- picture of a salaryman, possibly from anime, depicting the general 'feel'. Am I worn down, looking forward to the weekend, a workaholic?
- picture of a real-life person, specifically the suit style. Single or double breasted, colour, pocket square, etc. Maybe more than one picture, if I find a style I like but not in the colour I want.
- Possibly pictue of a near-nude model with the body type you want. Are you a fat bastard, a dadbod, Zyzz, Joe Public?
- Anything else you like and want including - tie pattern, shoes (does mothman wear shoes?), and so on.

Stick it all in a googledrive, and share the URL with your artist.

If you can do a text description, that can help too. My avatar is loosely based on an old DnD character I used to use. So I sent copies of the character sheets and session notes (my artist is a DnD character artist, and they explicitly said "send me all your character notes - if you have level sheets, send me ALL of them!")

my vtuber mama wanted to be finished with my model in late november and it's close to late december now....a little frustrating. they didn't charge me yet so it's not like a scam or anything. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt since I'm their first model and they only want to charge me around $305 including design help, which is a great price tag, and their artstyle is cute, I just hope they're done soon. anyway sorry for the rant.

>>15079696
I told my artist a few ideas, gave them an outfit and asked them for something similar and they went with it. very lucky as my artist turned out to be incredibly skilled at designing characters. they asked me for $100 ish for the design help. if you have no artistic talent you can just hire someone to do the designing for you.

>>15069451
Should I post highlights to Twitter? TikTok? Both?

>>15083068
Yes, post your clips everywhere. Edit them though, not just the raw files.

>>15083615
How do I edit them good? I just added some zoom in and out and subs, is it enough?

Why try to become a vtuber instead of just a normal youtuber?

>>15085725
Because everything is better when there's a cute anime girl involved.

>>15085725
Because I want to play a character that isn't myself. I'm sure I'd do fine as a fleshtuber but it seems like less fun to me.

>>15084924
I've not 'made it'. I'm still on single digits, even if only just.

pngchuuba
- add subs in black with white outline

L2D/3d
- add your avatar as a zoomed in on corner/top, crop out non-game part of screen

>zooms and shit
I wouldn't, not for your first clips. You can, but I've personally found my overedited clips perform worse than just subbed and cropped.

>>15086341
You can do that without the avatar though

>>15058784
Apologies for poor mic. Can you please rate my singing? https://voca.ro/18TpjAGVxXIh

>>15085725
Because I had my original character that represented me ever since I was in fandubbing community and now I can bring it to live and use it to stream

>>15085725
I like the anonymity of it. I never plan on making big numbers and there being an anime girl at the side of the game makes streaming less intimidating.

>>15085725
It looks fun and I would appreciate the relative anonymity it would give me as opposed to just using a facecam. Plus, I had fun designing a character that goes along with the subjects I'll be streaming about.

>>15058784
Apologies for poor mic. I'm a beginner in singing, can you please rate my singing? https://voca.ro/18TpjAGVxXIh

>>15058784
Apologies for poor mic. I'm a beginner in singing, can you please rate my singing? https://voca.ro/18TpjAGVxXIh

>>15058784
Apologies for poor mic. I'm a beginner in singing, can you please rate my singing? https://voca.ro/18TpjAGVxXIh

>>15088686
bump so i have time to listen to it

>>15088686
I think you need some practice and better mic and it could be good

>>15085725
I have some experience as a no-cam streamer, a lot of times i got told i'd do better with a camera (Used to be a 5view on FB), which i really don't wanna do, and being a chuuba seems like a good compromise

>>15092252
Thank you. Do you have in mind specific practice I can do?

bumpu

So whats good on steam sale right now for streaming? Any recommendations?

>>15059211
nevar

/asp/ies are cute! Cute!

>>15100736
n-no you

I don't want to audition and redebut, I wanna make it on my current self so I don't lose my current fanbase because they are sweetest people I have ever met and thinking I might lose them makes me wanna cry

I wanna vtube but my internet connection won't let me stream
I could just upload prerecorded videos but the problem is I don't have any inspiration for videos, do people still like watching old school style let's play?

any facebook chuubas here? i have a facecam friend that streams on fbg and does well. he plays MC, has like 100ish CCVs and makes 2k+ a month. only been at it a few months.

i don't see many vtubers there, though i do know Nimu built her career on facebook gaming before movin to twitch

>>15103688
>do people still like watching old school style let's play?
no.

>>15104423
then I have no idea what kind of content I could make

Tried to see what vtubers post on tiktok to promote themselves and most of them do really weird thirst traps i can't do this. Interestingly enough none of them are "big" expect for chibidoki who post clips and spics and seatubers.

>>15099277
Ni no Kuni II or 100% Orange Juice with dlc for good Collab opportunity

>>15104530
short meme videos? funny skits? singing? some talent?

>>15104981
>Tried to see what vtubers post on tiktok to promote themselves and most of them do really weird thirst traps i can't do this.
tiktok's algorithm adjusts to what you view and click on btw. if you're seeing thirst traps, that's because you're engaging with thirst trap tiktoks. same shit with the people who complain that tiktok is filled with nothing but 14 year old girls twerking. the algorithm sort you in about 1.5 hours. mine sent me to pets tiktok by the end of the day the first time i used it.

>>15104981
look at aicandii and vienna for better examples

don't copy vtuber trends

open tiktok yourself and go do some research and discover trends that are poppin' and see how you can adapt them to your own vtuber

tiktok also has its own 'culture' you need to be aware of, and slapping some trendy sound over your video is considered tacky if it doesnt match the trend

tiktok culture also doesn't really give a shit if you do HIGH QUALITY EDITING, the platform is scuffed zoomer shit and nobody cares about scuff

>>15105494
>tiktok culture also doesn't really give a shit if you do HIGH QUALITY EDITING, the platform is scuffed zoomer shit and nobody cares about scuff
this. 100% this. don't edit. tiktok isn't 2010s MLG hype edit youtube where audiences want to have overly edited shit. captions and quick cuts to where the key moments are is all you need. nothing else.

just remember to put your captions in the middle left side of the screen so it doesn't get covered up by the description in the lower left or the UI buttons on the right side.

Is there something like a recommended streaming time for starters?
Like, something short enough for people to be willing watch the archived stream but long enough to not be a flash in the pan that anyone will miss?

>>15105586
my personal rec for editing is:

'off app' editing should be making sure the format is correct, doing quick cuts, and MAYBE, depending on what you're doing, aligning trendy music to your vid. the reason for this is you can't rly align music in-app unless you also shoot the video in-app.

in-app editing i'd add your captions (either actual captions or putting timed text on screen, both fine), trendy music/sound if you dont need to align it, filters (not as vtuber applicable, but experiment) and like timed emojis and shit. this is also where you'll put a title card.

again, i really really urge people to look at vienna's tiktok. yes, c9 branding did help her, but she ran a really successful tiktok campaign prior to debut that people love to gloss over.

>>15105471
>short meme videos? funny skits? singing? some talent?
How about showcasing weird obscure games or doing really weird meme challenges in games?
Does those sound like they'd be fun to watch?

>>15105471
Doesn't tik tok algorithm only works on fyp page and if you click on tag it will show up top videos instead of picking them for you? Like there's videos from 2020 with million likes. I'm sure it's the will be the same for everyone. Either way I don't think of tik tok as boogie man and my fyp is animal videos and i have never engaged with spick or sea but here we're.

>>15106425
>How about showcasing weird obscure games or doing really weird meme challenges in games?
no. unless you build a brand like Angry Video Game Nerd showcasing old games then it might work. but you don't have the branding or established base to pull that off. you could get started right now but expect zero traction for the first year.

>>15106847
>Doesn't tik tok algorithm only works on fyp page
no, it counts your searches, follows, likes, shares, time spent watching, times repeated watching to an undisclosed limit, and a dozen other factors. it's good enough to figure out your gender despite never asking you to input that information when you sign up.

> I'm sure it's the will be the same for everyone.
for your first twenty or so tiktoks it'll show you the generic lowest common denominator stuff. it diverges very quickly after that.

>>15103460
Gotta choose between money and fame and the people that helped you get there

>>15104981
>none of them are big
>aicandii
>kenji
>buffpup
>uguubear
>riikami
>overezegg
>vienna

Like other anons said, look to what other people are doing and try and adapt it to yourself. They're successful for a reason.

>>15103460
Depending on the contract, you can probably let your community know privately (Very privately) that it's you. I've seen a few people debut and despite not having autistic 4chan audiences that go out of their way to seek out the identity of corpos, they somehow managed to find them

>>15107949
>you can probably let your community know privately (Very privately) that it's you.
sounds like a very good way to be suspended for breaking NDAs. lurkers even on discord can't be trusted.

>>15107991
>Depending on the contract
Anon, your reading reps...Obviously this doesn't work with huge corpos like Niji or Holo but contracts for smaller ones are much more lax.

>>15108121
>contracts for smaller ones are much more lax.
[citation needed]

I'm having a deficit of dopamine here.
Any aspies need a super annoying and weak-hearted yet loyal follower?

>>15108253
Cyberlive and Slugma's manages have both talked about their contracts. The fact the girls get to even keep 100% of their assets is already huge and shows how much more lax they are.

>>15058784
where else can one advertise if twitter is not the right place to do it?

>>15110167
it really depends on what you mean by "advertise"

>>15110167
Advertise what?

>>15110167
Shill on /asp/ outside of SEA hours.

>>15107949
>>15107991
>>15108121
I've never really gotten super 'into' any chuubas (or streamers in general) outside of corpos yeah i know holobrony nijifag etc. etc. but I imagine that if I WERE a fan of such, I'd notice my indie oshi stop streaming (whether or not they do any sort of farewell stream) and then just watch corpo debuts, JUST in case, maybe...
Feel like a LOT of corpos who had sizable fanbases prior to debut have any number of "IT'S HER"fags fellating each other with their wink-wink "I'm so clever" "secret knowledge".

>>15111255
Watch corpo debuts about 6 months or so after your indie/2view oshi goes silent*, that is, in case my point was kinda garbled.

I did a few test streams just for practice & to see what I do wrong before I worry about getting a model or anything. I realized that my biggest issue is filling dead air. I'm fine in actual conversations since I can build a rapport with the other person, but I run out of things to talk about randomly off the cuff really quickly.
Is there a quick fix for this? Most of my life since Covid started has been really routine (weightlifting, working WFH job, do some studying of whatever then just play vidya with online friends or watch vtubers) that I just don't have shit to talk about besides whatever game I'm playing.

>>15113951
Practice talking to yourself off stream, narrate your life. It's pretty much what the old lets players all did, and the model still works in a live setting, perhaps even better since there's interaction. For whatever reason, doing this gets the neurons firing and you'll probably find yourself going off on tangents once it becomes second nature to you. This is a huge skill to train, because sometimes you'll want to do this even while there's an active chat. Sometimes its best to let viewers converse, sometimes messages are best left unread, etc. It'll save you from being groomed and make people respect you more, which makes them more likely to share you around. Basically solidifies that it's YOUR stream, which is the reason you want to fill dead air in the first place when you really boil it down.

>>15105994
1.5-2 hours

>>15114415
Thanks for the advice. I'm on vacation so I should have plenty of time to practice then can try again once I get home to see if I've improved enough to warrant actually getting at least a character concept or if I need more practice.
how often do people even try to groom males?

>>15116876
>spoiler
never, don't worry yourself with it.

>>15116876
I probably define grooming too broadly. Lets say I'm your only viewer. I'm pretty chatty. I don't mean anything bad by you, but you, aspiring streamer, anxious to please, might feel a few urges that'll be to your long-term detriment. Maybe you'll try to cater your content to my tastes alone, since I'm the only feedback you're getting, and you're even getting it live. That's no good, but its an easy trap to fall in, in the heat of the moment. Maybe you'll come up on a blank and fall into a real long conversation with me. That's no good either (there's an important balance to this, I can probably talk about it more in depth if you want), most viewers aren't social butterflies - if they come in on you having a long conversation with one person, they'll get shy and just leave, unless you have some uber sexy voice or something. I'm sure there are some other pitfalls I'm forgetting, but that's the sorta thing you've gotta think about avoiding. My motto is to stream like you're bigger than you are.

>>15109667
What kind of streamer are you looking for? Chill vibes? High energy? /m/ale? /f/emale?

>>15058784
Pg10 bump

>>15116074
Actually looking at bigger chuubas, I feel like it's overally the best time, from one to two hours. It keeps people captivated enough to stay for the whole thing and it it's a thing that can has more parts, they will more likely come to second part than stay with you for 5+ hours.
Think about yourself. Endurance is cool and all but do you stay on whole things for big tubers or do you go do your stuff after some time since they aren't even close to finishing and check once in a while?

>>15126895

I'd say around 3, you need to be Live a bit longer early on when your only methods of discovery are the whims of Twitch's near-nonexistant discovery system and whatever little outside content you may have. One to 1.5 hours is typically where you'll reach your peak viewership under normal circumstances and that's just an across the board thing for most streamers. I don't even know any big streamers just doing 1-2 hour streams, most are pulling way more than 3 just because they've got the audience to maintain it. 3-5 is pretty much the norm but 5 is fairly long unless you've got multiple things planned in phases like reactung, gaming, art, or pre-planned content like shooting for a Youtube video. Big chuubas definitely aren't doing 1-2 hour runs though.

>>15128167
Yeah, I just double checked and zero of the top 15 people Live now do anything less than 3. One of the few sub-3 hour streams I found was a costume contest silvervale ran.

>>15128167
Oh, maybe if we talk twitch but I would say it's better to do three 90mins than one 4,5 hour. You will be more tired and less people will watch the whole thing. On the beginning you want peeps to come and stay, and too long will be boring.

Holo often does under 2h streams too and they are watched whole, unlike 6h

>>15130040
I wouldn't really try and compare corporate to indie, you'll be an indie after all. They can do that because even the smallest holo has guaranteed viewership. At 90 minutes as an indie, you've barely hit your peak viewership for that stream. You don't really have any discoverability outside of the site at the beginning so being live at least gives you a chance to be seen. Not saying you need to do a bunch of 4-5 hour ones, but 3-4 is the norm across the board for indies. VOD viewership is next to nonexistent until people know who you are and indie VOD viewership is insanely low to begin with because the focus is typically on the livestreaming experience.

>>15058784
Alright I've got the singing talent, some songs prepped, an avatar in the works. But what the fuck am I gonna stream about? I mean I can probably talk about weird autistic shit for two hours straight but will it be entertaining? Though I did have an idea about talking about supernatural crap and historical mysteries. I wonder if that's an over saturated market.

>>15131344
>I wonder if that's an over saturated market.
it's about as over saturated as trad webcam streaming. most will never make it. the good ones will separate themselves from the garbage.

>>15131344
That kind of thing is better for scripted videos than streaming, or as a single recorded segment as part of your livestream in order to make it a Youtube video. Filling every single stream with that doesn't seem like it'd do very well. Kabhaal started off doing similar.

>>15131408
I can improvise but I've been known to say some really weird shit because I have collected seemingly useless information for years. I could art stream maybe?

>>15131508
>I could art stream maybe?
will your art stream somehow make you not say some really weird shit?

>>15131559
Probably not. Though I can probably find a way to make the weird shit entertaining.

>>15131644
if your "weird shit" isn't /pol/ tier alt right neo nazi faggotry, you should be fine. go do a test stream or local recording for 2-3 hours and take notes on yourself. expect zero viewers when you start so whatever stories you tell can be retold later when you have an actual audience.

>>15131694
Nah I was weird long before I ever came here. I can clean it up, it's not like I'm gonna slip and drop N bombs everywhere. I might just discuss weird thoughts about seemingly mundane crap though or talk about weird things I'll make up about the character backstory.

for those that want to learn animating chibis, this sample is like $10 and looks pretty nice

https://twitter.com/mitarashi_neko/status/1473626289026510853

https://mitarashineko.booth.pm/items/3520408

>>15118936
How about no/nb/inary?

>>15134063
How about no?

>>15116876
Only if you're femboy.

>>15134063
I don't see why not