/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Previously on number >>14890422

>Battle of the Jikar plains, 19.12.2021

General Toya with an army of 119k combined with Chief Kuzuha's army marched across the nothern plains to claim the city there. They had faced armies from Pirate Queen Marine and Vampire Queen Mel and won both battle. With an army hundred of thousands strong, they were certain to bring destruction to one of the most important trade route and stronghold for the Holo Empire. However, there lies a warlord living deep in the mountain ranges that protects this city from invaders.

The rabbit warlord, Pekora, had rode into battle with her steed and brought victory to the Holo Empire. A defensive battle on the plains was the greatest mistake General Toya had ever though off and they retreated back to a safer position, recouping for another fight. The warlord Pekora feasted and celebrated the night with her nousagis. It was rumored that she also celebrated the night in bed with Vampire Queen Mel and Succubus, Choco. A true hero of our times.

>Translation notes: Jikar = Ni"Jikar"t Tourney

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14895993
>ONORE PEKORA

HOLOTRANNIES MOGGED BY NIJICHAD VOD VIEWS

>>14896227

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>>14896227

>>14896269
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>>14896306
DILATE HOLOTROONS. PEKORA WILL NEVER GET 2M ON HER VOD.

>>14896227

found phony numbers

>>14896567
https://twitter.com/13_chima_oshi/status/1470451306024546310/photo/1

>>14896567
WTF is this?

>>14896653
phony covers anon, learn to read

>>14895993
stay on the old thread until its dead >>14890422

>>14896746
make me you bitch

https://livestreamfails.com/clip/130004
xqc talking about his income, keep in mind that he has more than 80k subs and he stream for more then 12h a day so the ad income is also high

> The office chair shattered the window and fell towards the ground far below.
> Riku's delicate hands trembled, exhausted by the act of breaking the bullet proof glass they had installed following Mito's public execution
> He started forward, a stern and determined look on his face. But there was sadness to. Sadness due to repeated setbacks.
> *BANG* The office door burst open, showing Shinya Tsurui, gasping for breath, entered the room.
> "Did he run all the way here? From the basement closet I exiled him to after the Sony debacle?" Riku though. But out loud he said
> "Did you see it?"
> ".. Ah.. Y-yes I did. But don't do it Riku, there is still hope."
> "Hope!?" he sneered, stepping away from the window ledge "Hope against that? She unbraided her hair!" "What can we do..." the last words uttered with a whimper as Riku fell to his knees.
> "I've already told his manager to send him to the Island. And we have the events, we always have the events." Shinya assured him as he knelt down to comfort the other man. Riku sobbing uncontrollably into his shoulder.
> "There is always hope, we will prevail with you leading us." Shinya said with confidence in his voice. But his thoughts were "I have to escalate the plans for going public, so I can dump my shares of this sinking ship and find a new company."
> "Slow and steady, Rikkun, slow and steady and we will prevail."

HOLOSISTERS WE GOT TOO COCKY. ONLY PAST GURA CAN COMPETE WITH NIJIGODS.

>>14897015
matt go to bed

Why is /jp/ malding so hard right now?

>>14897369
About what?

>>14897015
>Compare 1 hour stream to 6 hours stream

>>14896269
>>14896295
>>14896306
slapmind...

>>14896938
tl;dr : The big cash comes from sponsorships and corpo partnerships
What an (un)surprising revelation!

>>14896386
MOGGED REAL HARD PEKO PEKO

>>14897483
COPEEE. ANYONE CAN CHECK THE VOD. DURATION DOESN'T MATTER. PEKORA IS NEVER EVER REACHING 2M.

This thread reeks of NIJICOPE.

What is this retarded rollercoaster Susan

Fubuki 40k

>>14896003
General Toya knelt before the horse. His armies were broken, his camp torched. He heard a sniff from the person atop the horse.
"You tried peko"
Frustration boiled in him, and he punched the ground.
"If-If only our suburban armies could reach us in time..."
Demon Lord Pekora raised an eyebrow, and took another bite out of her carrot.
"Your main force has been completely shattered. Do you really think an few thousand peasant levies would have made a difference peko?"
He gripped his fist. He knew, of course. They were far too spread out, and would not have made it in time. His main force was powerful though, and he had thought that his maneuver of having Captain Kuzuha taking a 40k strong reserve into a flanking maneuvre would have been enough to give them the victory.
But the enemy had turned out to be far more numerous that what he had expected. A well organized army of 180k, with veteran nousagi at its core, there were no openings to burst his reserve into. He could only watch from the sidelines as his main force was completely routed. Demon Lord Pekora continued chewing her carrot.

General Toya finally stood up. He knew, they could reassemble their forces and strike back with the same number tomorrow, for the demon lord could no longer use her dark-armor at full power.
"You know this isn't over. We'll win tomorrow." he confidently said.
Pekora just shrugged "You'll take a town or two, but we will simply take it back again the next day peko."
Toya was not deterred "I know not how King Riku did it, but our armies are much larger than yours now. And since your armor cannot be used again, we will continue to win. And city by city, we will take our Kingdom back! Slow and steady, BANZAI!"
He turned around - flaring his cloak - and with a single powerful push, leapt away from the carnage.

Pekora continued chewing her carrot, looking into the horizon. A twinkle appeared in the sky behind her, and a few seconds later, a patched up Mel landed near Pekora.
Pekora raised her eyebrows at her, silently asking if she was healed now. Mel nodded. Chocosen was a professional after all. Their eyes turned back to the horizon, and they continued to watch the setting sun.
"Do you think he realizes?" Pekora asked.
"Realizes what, my Lord?" Mel said.
"That these 'armies' of his are not loyal to him... nor to any General in his camp" said Pekora "They just enjoy spilling blood on these fields, and dragging both sides into the mud. They are mercenaries that only know how to fight, and come peacetime, they will simply leave for the next battlefield."
Mel considered this.
"It's hard to say my Lord. Perhaps he was ignorant, or perhaps he still hopes that even these mercs can be integrated slowly and steadily." she said.
Pekora scoffed "Fool. He forgets his history. Mercs are snakes, and if you make your entire army out of snakes, someone will get bitten."
She shook her head and turned her horse back to her castle, Mel followed behind her. Her armor would keep giving her power for a few more days, but most of it was already used up. She sighed.

It did not matter. Her enemies would continue destroying themselves.

>>14897750
>tl;dr : The big cash comes from sponsorships and corpo partnerships
Burger face streamers live in a different word. Sometimes they get six digits to shill games vtubers BEG permission to play
>not in this case tho, being APEX and everything

>>14897907
Oh shit. Is happening.

>>14897955
If it doesn't happen in 5 minutes the score will be frozen

>>14897907
COME ON JUST 3K MORE

NUMBERS MAKE ME HARD SO MUCH

>>14896386
Rikkun don't look!
Mite janai kudasai!!!!

The Great general Toya sent a messenger with an important information:
>-34%
>-30%
>-30%
>-42%
>-32%
>too weak to get 200k ccv

>>14898032
COME ON FBK. SANDWICH YOUR ENEMY, ATTACK FROM ABOVE AND BELOW
FINISH THEM

>>14897993
Nah the numbers upto 1 A.M. JST are counted because that is when Daily ranking stops counting.

>>14897911
What lack of pussy does to a mf

>>14898032
man if peckers didn't get susan'ed at the end and extended by even a minute or two she couldve gotten gura

>>14897911
Love it anon, you should compile these into one short story line

>>14898098
It would've been at 192k, she would still need quite abit more to break past gura's 197k

Friend didn't make it

>>14898089
DUH! I thought it was already 1AM in Japan

>Just came back from family outing
>Completely forgot about Bunny's outfit reveal
>"Oh it probably got 100k-110k atleast based on some hype and in reference of april fools outfit"
>187k
>Entire board is in permanent salt,cope and falseflagging
To be honest I kneel to the bunny for blowing my expectations, I really thought she is washed out after her bad performance previous week in terms of her consistency.

>>14898211
yeah,better get used to it, the nijihomos are debuting in a few hours and then the board is going to get extra shitty

>>14897896
YT has been acting up on the CCV count as of late, I've noticed this weird dipping nonsense in multiple streams but THAT is just completely wacky.

>>14898032
41K now! I belieb!!

Fubuki 42k .

>>14898332
>I BELIB!!!

>>14897931
Yea. Pekora got fucking sponsored to do a complete playthrough of a game, and do so to over 20k+.
Even with the difference in JP vs EN, that must been a fat fucking paycheque.

>>14898142
194k, but point stands.

HOW DO WE NERF HER, LADS!?

>>14898435
jezas

>>14897911
kek, time to make a light novel anon

>>14898435
End pokemon permissions so she doesn't have something to channel her immense gacha autism into.

>>14898435
Just give her the goldfish already

>>14896938
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtTwGFwcQs&t=498s

YT ad revenue is actually insane. You can probably compare most of niji's earning without super chats to this guy.

>You thought Mel was going to Mog Kuzuha
>But it was ME, FUBUKING

It's ogre. King retains his medal. Now someone needs to step up and beat Jap gacha autism.

>>14898435
why should we?

12:10 JST and Fubuki pushed the King out of the medals already

>>14898685
What? Pretty sure fubuki is the king, not some silverboy who can't even get silver

>>14897750
Nijikekbros..is it over for us? nijien barely got any sponsor

>>14898032

Lui-nee...
Your numbers...
Why are you doing these SC reading streams?
Why is HoloX doing these fucking streams?

>>14898772
Elira will get all the sponsorships and will hand out the rest to those who suck up the most.

king....

Fubuki uses black magic for numbers

de gozaru with another 1M with her asmr stream

>>14898820
Today is not a great day for Nijifriends

>>14898836
This is the best time of the day to doing it anon.. but yeah i'd rather they do it in the same stream

>>14898836
Watame curse got to them.

>>14898904
JESAZZZZ!!

>>14898820
>>14898880
>Gold cucked
>Bronzed cucked
TO ALL KEIKAKU ACCORDING

>>14898880
She peaked that past midnight so vrabi isn't putting the two streams together.

Nijisanji weekly covers top actually here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9YWsOL8Ois

Gave the milestones video link by mistake last thread.

>>14898906
I've heard from a youtuber that it's better to upload nothing at all then uploading video that most of your sub won't watch.

>>14898880
The true king was always FubuKing.

>>14897911
continue making this, anon

TOP KEK, matome is with a split brain right now

>Pekora beat the combined forces of all of Nijisanji
>Nijisanji, after a long time, got more streams over 10k than Hololive

(this is a half human half machine translation, correct me if I fuck up PLZ)

>>14899022
That’s because youtubers solely rely on the algorithm for growth and views.
Streamers are a bit different since they have a somewhat consistent audience.

>>14898904
Plus 428k from her morning FF10, her and Laplus are doing insane numbers it's just that Chloe is even more insane

>>14899022
Valkyrae also unlist her livestreams if im not mistaken. Same with ludwig.

>>14897619
>Maybe she'll do a Goropeko-nyan Instagram and upload some images of herself here and there, which prompts her to ask if there is a like function on Instagram and that she'd become sad if she loses to Goro-nyan. Like if his pictures get more likes than hers then she'll cry, obviously.
this numberrabbit fucking kek

Fuck off holoshitters. Stop being dishonest. Vrabi isn't showing Kuzuha and Fubuki together. Livechart keeps counting the stream if it starts before midnight though.

>>14898820
Thank you for the hard work FUBUKING

>Ayame is no longer a premium streamer

>>14899194
She also said she had to refuse some sponsorship.

>>14899104
kek, there is ZERO difference between matome comments and this thread.
>ZERO!

>>14899282
She needs to hang around a little longer to collect New Year superchats, she'll fuck off again soon after that and regain her rarity buff

>>14898435
This is officially Gura's slowest month, not that it matters though, pretty sure no one will ever catch up to her
to catch up to her
>Mori would need 36 months (3 years)
>Pekora would need 46 months (almost 4 years)
>Fubuki would need 22 months (almost 2 years)
this is considering
>Gura gaining 0 subs, period
>all of the current buffs are kept
>they never go below of what they are getting

>>14899207
>Vrabi: Established October 2021
>live-ranking: Established all the way back in 2018
I know which one to trust on this, anon

>>14899207
lmao cope more

>>14899406
Livechart is garbage. Misses peaks by more than a thousand easily.

>>14899380
Anon, this is less about Gura and more about being happy for Fubuki. Obviously nobody is getting anywhere near Gura in subs.

Here is the most amusing thing: about one year after being passed by Korone, Fubuki not only got her lead back on her but is close to regain the mantle of highest subbed JP Holo

>>14899282
She's worried that chloe will steal her gachikoi

>>14899463
>Misses peaks by more than a thousand easily.
I usually fix the ranking with Holostats and Mado if it would change positions.

>>14899380
I really don’t get it. Is it the music clips? Foreign clips? She’s a powerhouse sure but there’s just something different about how herb numbers work

Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Peak Live Views (Holostats)

** Top 10 **

07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation
05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
12/19/2021 187,392 Pekora Costume reveal (NEW)
11/28/2021 180,499 Koyori debut
11/29/2021 176,697 Chloe debut
11/30/2021 175,823 Iroha debut
11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut
11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut
10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return
10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal

** The Rest **

07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M Gen3 3DLive
10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
12/13/2020 129,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal
07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday LIVE
12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive New Year's Eve
11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke
08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
12/11/2021 112,093 Gura 2nd Costume reveal
01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros
05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut
11/30/2021 108,611 HoloX first full collab
07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal
07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut
08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
10/04/2021 101,868 Noel 2nd Costume reveal
05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

>>14899207
>bronze cucked
Accept defeat and kneel

>he trusts "virtual Rabi"

>>14899380
>Fubuki would need 22 months (almost 2 years)
Imagine the quest for the gold magikarp lasting THAT long

>>14899535
Top 8 is all 2021 streams. WHAT AN INCLINE!

>>14899535
Two more streams and Miko's comeback will be kicked out of the top 10, that's just insane

>>14899521
she gets a shitton of views from external sources and I can point even more that she's not doing that guarantee subs
>more music
>short videos (or anything premiere-able)
>making a stream in another platform, even if it's just for the shits and giggles
>3D
>off-collab
>join a non-holo event (even if it as a meme tournament of anything)
>the hand cam gimmick
and also
>anything that boosts hololive is guaranteed to boost Gura
but
>not anything that boosts Gura helps other hololive members

>>14899380
Rightfully so. She's been skipping/rescheduling streams.

>>14899707
It's the other way around if you think about it:
>October 21, 2020 was the strongest day in Hololive history

why is it so hard for holo to break 200k ccv

>>14899742
also, the opening of another branch is Guaranteed subs, in order of likelyhood that would be
>HoloKR
>HoloES
>HoloBR
>*smal gap*
>HoloRU
>HoloIN (india)
>HoloEU

>>14896515
Already at 1,016M Nijiitard :)

>>14899840
Why is it so hard for niji to break 400k ccv?

>>14899742
Can you imagine if Gura actually tried for memes directly?

She could have 10 shorts over 10 million
a timely animation directly on her own channel could get 10 million in 2 months easy.

>>14899888
Guranteed

>>14899840
Can you keep up with me ?

>>14899990
she wanted to post self edited short clips a few months back but it's most likely that retared management shut down the idea

>>14899808
I'm not sure if we have records for that but even excluding Coco it was probably July 1st this year, everyone had absolutely insane buffs that day

>>14900088
This is why YT doesn't care to push for the international crowd.
Everyone's already here.

So hololyzer as finished processing Pekora's outfit reveal stream and she got 5,280,544 yen SC

>>14900088
SEAnigs, I kneel. Really shows how irrelevant vtubers are compared to the mainstream. Numberfagging vtubers is like playing in the minor leagues.

Miko has really reclined this month. Will she even be in too 5 female streamer this quarter?

>>14899380
that's not good
she doesnt deserve to be the most subbed vtuber

>>14898532
Tl:DR
Holy moley that's a lot of ad revenue for someone with a much much, MUCH smaller vod view count than pretty much everyone in HoloEN sans Sana.

>>14900235
Going from her reactions whenever numbers are brought up I feel she thinks the exact same as you.xxdhj

>>14900174
Anon everything is in the minor leagues when compared to football. Or are you talking about the esport stream in the image ?

>>14900163

>>14900337
I mean, if two literal who SEAnig teams with a completely domestic audience can mog one of the most popular vtubers with a global audience this hard...

>>14899840
Because hololive < Talents rather than Niji's Nijisanji > Talents.
>Also
Nijisanji has established official events that always been held in main ch that guarantee big numbers. While Holo only started this last year.

>>14900163
If you'll excuse me I'm going to grudgepost
>>14862671 HAHA FUCK YOU RETARDED FAGGOT HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE WRONG ALL THE TIME? YOU REALLY THOUGHT THE THIRD MOST SUPERCHATTED PERSON IN THE WORLD WOULDN'T GET THAT FOR AN OUTFIT HER FANS HAVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR? HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE A MORON HAHAHAHAHA

First time I saw someone outpacing Gura outside of debut month

>>14900464

FBK is really going to crash when Pokemon permissions disappear

>>14900408
Are you stupid or something anon?
>two literal who
It's a match between two national team of two countries, of course Pekora is fucking nothing compares to the two literal countries.

If sponsorships and merch get the biggest money then why do NijiENs bait and play into SCs so much?

>>14900477

>>14900477
Haachama and Coco also outpacing Gura once.

>>14900528
Sponsorships and merch dominate when you are big. But midgets don’t get those but they can get saviour bucks.

>>14900528
Because they have no sponsor?

>>14900528
Because they can't get sponsorship.

>>14900163
Fake holokek stats. Playboard is only showing $31k

>>14900528
Because NijiEN doesn't get sponsorship or merch.

Watch out chicken

>>14899007
Top 10

10) Uiha - project SEKAI - 109,825 (feat.NagaoKei)
9) Akina - Marshall Maximizer - 113,720
8) Joe Rikiichi - Shinigami - 130,006
7) Chigusa - Roki - 137,476 (feat.NagaoKei)
6) Fuwa - Phony - 150,823
5) Kuzuha - VAmpire - 198,606
4) Kuzuha - King - 243,610
3) Chima - Phony - 360,320
2) Lauren - God-ish - 556,066
1) Toko - Phony - 689,947

All of Toko's songs got a boost this week, with 2 more close to the top 10 and around 100k views.

>>14900664
Hololive comparison
10. Ina - Tabi no Tochuu (225,994)
9. Koyori - Luma (236,448)
8. Fubuki - S'il Vous President (240,129)
7. Suisei and Mori - GETCHA (285,556)
6. Moona and Suisei - Saikai (285,865)
5. Gura and Mori - KING (312,496)
4. Shion - phony (374,411)
3. Suisei, Astel, and Izuru - Cinema (378,689)
2. Suisei - phony (826,697)
1. Laplus - Kamippoi (885,712)

>>14900281
His revenue per click is quite high since tcg viewers probably spend. But you know who else spends a shitload on crap? Vtuber fans. He also makes a relatively small amount (still thousands a month) from premium but look at his watch time stats compared to say Kiara, Watame, or Mori. Most girls deprioritizing superchats after some time makes sense given these numbers. This is before merch and sponsors.

>>14900638
go Suisei go

>>14900163
I believe she was already over 10k before the stream started.

Chances are Playboard might not pick those up.

>>14900515
She'll lose a bunch of viewers, but her sheer ability to make a talk stream out of anything will make some people stay, and I think that's her play.

The new NijiMales are debuting. What numbers do they need to make you kneel? HoloX debut numbers? 20k+?

>>14900750
What time?

>>14900725
Playboard always takes a few hours for big SC streams to update, it'll be fixed by the time the daily chart comes out

>>14900691
Phony two times?

>>14898532
Depends immensely on what type of content you make, for what demographic and what country.

Vtubers and anitubers end up being in the same category and get the measly 1$ for 1000 views recently.
That's for a regular 8-20 minute video. Streams might be worth more because of watch time.

Valkyrae had 178.000$ from ads during the leaks month for instance.
Some youtubers say the more subs you get, the better the algo prices the ads on your stream, so there's that.

>>14900812
One is Shion, one is Suisei

>>14900750
Please post links.

>>14900612
Playboard always got some problems counting SCs regarding that matter
t. Nousagi

>>14900809
>it'll be fixed
sometimes it doesn't. Nenes return stream is still missing more than half of her scs

Iroha is reading SCs on the same stream with monetization left on, thank god

>>14900750
>First en male gen
If they don't hit 30k
we nijichads will eat shit for three weeks
Mark my words and screenshot this

>>14900812
5 times between the combined top 10s and i believe 8 times in total, combined 100 songs.

>>14900691
This has been the strongest week in many many months for holo songs.
First time since July when the entry, 50th place song had 50k views that week.

>>14900785
8pm EST

Judging by twitter interactions 40k seems possible. Judging by likes and comments on youtube videos 25k is possible. Judging by subs 10k is possible.

>>14900837
Oh I didn't read the name. I thought both were by Suisei

>>14900822
Lumping vtubers and anitubers together is only slightly less sensical than grouping all vtubers together. 2views, tsunderia, low tier chubbas, and Pekora are not in the same universe when it comes to the algorithm.

It's the first time youtube culls a Niji wave this hard. What could've been the cause? Is Niji trying to bot the males? I believe it.

>>14900898
This. If they don't get 30k us Nijifans will admit hololive is superior in every way and that holofans are free to post in our threads to rub it in.

>>14900750
kneel? No less than 70k.
Honestly if they get more than 20k I'd consider them a smashing success, but I ain't kneeling to midgets

>>14898532
>142k sub
>28-day: 2.7m views, $25k est ad rev
while hololive gained 383m views over 30-day

>>14900908
Would be good a comparisons between other songs. I think no song tops KING as reigning in the chart though

>>14900750
They'll beat Pekora.

>>14900822
Vtubers fall under gaming category too.

>>14900750
50+k and I'm going to succ all the Nijitrannies' cock. Less than that is bad because a Liver got to advertise them in front of 90+k people yesterday on Niji ch.

>>14900947
it doesn't matter that much what you do, what matters is what YT perceives your audience to be categorizes as.
Unironically Lumi might have better Anya than Iofi for instance, because NA main audience vs Indonesia, where ads are much much cheaper.
But again, subscribers and other metrics matter in pushing up the ad prices apparently.

>>14900281
I'm kida fuming that hololivers are fucking richer than we think. Like they might be making 5 figures a month, and people like peckers might be earning 50k per month.

>>14900895
Yeah return streams get fucked because it stops tracking your channel if you don't stream for a while, obviously that's not an issue for Pekora though. The other two things it sometimes has issues with are monetization streams and Niji 3Ds since they always put up the frame a week early, again none of those are relevant to this stream. This happens every time, it'll get to the right total in a few hours I guarantee it.

>>14901001
2.7M views per month for Hololive. Each of them has way more subs than him.

>>14900910
>Judging by twitter interactions
Never do this especially for nijisanji.
A little example
Kuzuha's sanya event with halloween gimmick as well got 55k peak had 60k+ likes on twitter.
Shion outfit reveal which peaked at 93k had 10k+ likes.

>>14900910
Too bad twitter interactions mean shit most of the time, especially with Nijisanji since they pay Twitter to boost their company through Topics.

>>14901057
50k a month? Peko is easily making quadruple that

>>14898122
>>14898476
>>14899084
thanks anons! I occasionally browse /#/ during big events, and the narrative today was just too juicy not to write about.
I might have a couple more parts depending upon how the numbers go kek.

>>14901052
Like 95% of bully panda's viewers are male and NijiEN males look like fuckbois for homos and girls. Not the right audience.

>>14900968
They figured out how not to get culled 2-days later, but earlier. nijifags are geniuses

>>14901001
is that guy's audience like all american or some shit? does he talk about the value of cards or something too?

>>14901053
Duh. Hololive has a vastly disproportionate amount of paying members and superchatters compared to your average channel. Even if half your fanbase are diet poor SEA types they have proven revenue generators in within their subs.

>>14901057
I mean Pekora just casually go out and buy her Pokemon champion team without thinking twice

>>14901136
Tomorrow's a new chapter for side story anon. You could write about the bois.

>>14901057
>people like peckers might be earning 50k per month
Lmfao anon she has around 25k members and an average of 70k in superchat a month this year, plus a ton of sponsorships, ad revenue and merch, she's making a lot lot more than that

>>14901057
Basically don't bother donating a single cent to the top streamers since your daily wage probably isn't even worth 1 minute of their time.

>>14901200
70% of her income goes to Cover and yt, not including taxes.

>>14901200
Are peckers, migoji, sussy, garantula gurrur, mai, fubers etc. millionaires?

>>14901144
I don't know why they went ALL IN on a very specific niche for their male wave.

>>14901200
Another way to look at it is just do a rough comparison to Twitch payouts for with her level of watch time/viewers. Unless she makes literally nothing in merch/Sponsors/concerts and somehow she is making like a fifth of what a comparable Twitch streamer makes there’s just no way she’s making that little. You think Pekora makes 500k/year. Kiara was surprised she had >300k in the bank in less than a year.

>>14901001
Over 20$ is reserved for "Financial" ad category.
No vtuber will fit that.

>>14901034
Trying to find it but Pokimane is from gaming then and she showed her YT ad revenue, it was at 1$ per 1000 views before YT dropped her views for signing with Twitch.

Good night numberbros! Imma sleep now so i can catch the debut tonight

>>14901280
>70% of her income
SC & memberships
>yt ad rev
will be different

>>14901268
Yea, throw some super chats on celebrations but watching them on YT app is probably more than enough

>>14898532
Interesting, further proof that the main source of income on youtube is ads on VODs.

>>14901335
>financial
see his content, it's way more niche than holo

>>14901279
Could be

>>14901400
Well his watch time is nothing compared to most vtubers so his premium is going to be small. He still makes a couple thousand a month from it.

>>14900910
Niji buys twitter likes.

>>14897911
Good stuffs, but paste it on google doc, anon. It will highlight the typos.

>>14901335
Is there a difference between gaming and entertainment? Because all Holos are one or the other (except Azki who's music) but interestingly all of gen 6 are "entertainment"

>>14901328
At time of the twitch leak Miko made about $120k at 112 hours streamed at an average of 5500k viewers with is about 600k watch hours over 8 months. These streams are 95% watch parties. Miko barely touches twitch, so it may not be worth much of her time.

So, how much are they really making when watch parties are $120k. That isn't merch. That isn't a sponsorship. No vods are saved.

>Final tally doko?

Ironmouse is probably richer than Gura. Corpo + yt cut murders earnings too much.

>>14901499
I mean, premium revenue basically comes from the same source as ads on VODs, it's just that the ads aren't shown to premium users and Susan compensates for that.

>>14901574
means nothing if you got aids.

>>14901593
No you don’t understand premium at all. Spiffing Brit did a basic overview but just stop talking if you don’t know what you are on about

How we doin' kingchads? I havent seen the final tally for today, but i assume his highness got bronze? I'll just kneel in advance.

>>14901279
I can't work out who the hell half of those are meant to be but yes, several Holos are 99.999% confirmed to have made at least a million USD plus whatever extra they likely wasted on expensive stuff they didn't need

>>14901574
50% cut on t1 subs

Didn't a 2view Niji leak her 28 day earnings and they were $3.1k? She gets 800 viewers and 10k-20k on her vods. Usada has about 40 times that. That means Pekora gets $120k - cover's cut per month. No merch or sponsorships are included in that.

Just woke up, Niji take Gold again?

>>14901668
>Bronze
anon...do not scroll up

>>14901574
lul

>>14901668
yeah, she got bronze.

>>14899535
How would 2022 look like? Will you guys still be around by then?

>>14900709
Yea...
Christ on a pogostick, Gura probably making easily 6 digits a month off of memberships + adrev + premium alone, and has probs been doing so for a while now. Hell, she probably knew what she'd be getting once she saw her VOD numbers since she's been at this for so long, no wonder she didn't give a single shit about SC reading since day 1.

>>14901574
Twitch murders earnings too. Merch and sponsorships make way more than that shit according to Polka.

>>14901574
That's honestly delusional, Gura has comparable viewership numbers to sykkuno who has 113k on that list

>>14901778
Polka's comment always seemed like sadcope from someone who barely gets any supas compared to her colleagues, I'd take that with a pinch of salt

>>14900750
5-6k

>>14901886
>taking one of the biggest industry veteran's words that cynically
I'm more inclined to believe her and trust her since I doubt anyone else has that level knowledge in most corpos. She was already wealthy as n^buhime.

>>14901001
i know this doesn't really make sense since there are a ton of variables, but let's just hypotetically say gura earns the same amount for the same views
>2.7m views, $25k est ad rev
>13.3m views, $123k est ad rev
then you add premium rev, memberships, SC, merch, sponsors

>>14901771
Why does she do SC readin then

>>14901771
She really only does it now as an excuse to do a zatsudan without doing a zatsudan stream.

>>14902013
Neglect

>>14899361
truly a mirror

>>14902013
She will do it at the end of the stream if she really feels like it and wants to chat a bit, otherwise she doesn't bother and she never does streams dedicated to it.

Man, I keep getting this more often. Don't they have to pay more to increase the ad occurrences?

>>14902013
Honestly?
She started doing it because Kiara mentioned it iirc. Prior to that, sometime early this year, I think it was February? She NEVER did post-stream SC readings. I see it mostly as a way for her to just do zatsudans (because she can't bring herself to do a JUST chatting stream) and maybe read some SCs if she's in the mood.

>>14901886
pretty sure Coco said the same thing and i really doubt she needed to cope with her sc numbers
funny enough her Kson income breakdown had scs way higher than before

>>14901946
The world has changed since Nobu's heyday, as recently as 2019 Aqua was by far the highest superchat earner of the year with $323k while Chloe is quite possibly going to get that much in a single month. At the end of the day it differs for each vtuber of course, kson has said she gets a big majority of her income from superchats, while Polka probably does get most of her money from merch. For people like Pekora who do very well with superchats, sponsorship and Youtube views we simply don't know what ratio comes from each, but we can be sure she's absolutely loaded

>>14897896
WHO?

so I wanna say that the nijiboy mysta is hanging around in his debut stream chat and I am not shitting you that I saw several fucking koreans in the chat.

is the kpop anon telling the damn truth?

>>14902214
No, they just pay for a set number of views, and the algo handles the rest. If you're getting more than usual it probably means they fine tuned the demographic options a little too much and you just happened to be the perfect fit.

>>14902430
Those fucking gooks really will watch everything except Niji KR won't they?

>>14902226
Dumb rrat, she got offended on that stream because she was doing it for weeks before kiara said anything

>>14902486
kek

>>14900612
>playboard
AHAHAHAHA

>>14902254
That's not quite it. What Coco said was that it was generally a fairly small percentage for a Holo member but she wasn't counting herself because she was also aware that in her own case her SC income was abnormal.

>>14902486
do they have an irrational hatred toward niji kr or someshit?

>>14902689
>Watching DUBBED anime

>>14902689
Isnt the entire branch disapora?
There is no way in hell id ever watch something made for my country but in reality staffed by some foreigners.

>>14902475
NTA but that means either YT thinks I'm a girl or Niji marketing are retards.

OHNONONON
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Placements on the all-time superchat rankings after today's streams
#109 - Chloe
#148 - Iroha
#183 - Laplus
Koyori needs another $8k to rank, Lui needs $36k

>>14902603
so in the end Polkas statement is most likely true with maybe some rare exceptions and even then having high sc and high income from merch and other things is better (until you get taxed)

>>14902812
Well, I mean, you spend alot of your time watching a bunch of girls talk amongst themselves so...

>>14902846

>>14902013
Easy content for when she doesn’t feel like gaming anymore.
<t.chumkek

>>14900750
Beat Gura's meme review, and I'll kneel

>>14899990
She wont remove her limiters.
shes talked about how she wakes up at like 3am with a meme idea but doesnt act on them. Seems like she wants to keep her innocent facade

>>14902254
>had scs way higher than before
It's probably a combination between not having to give company cut and losing other sources of revenue.

A lot of you guys are equating the reality of Holo's incomes by using comments from Holos that are at the extreme opposite ends. Coco gets a ton of SCs. Polka doesn't but gets a lot of endorsements. Why trust their word when they can't be used as the median? If someone like Okayu or maybe Towa shared info about their income, I will be more inclined to believe them because they get a healthy amount of SCs, with middle of the pack CCV and consistent sponsorships with decent memberships too.

>>14902846
EN sharts cope by living in the past instead of the present
besides
>Luna was holding hostage 4K people
>Susan culled 5K
>Pekora could stall some more
>Realistically 196K was the 'real' number
sad.

>>14903128
Suisei? She said not to SC her but buy her merchs instead.

>>14903084
sounds like she needs an outlet.
But she wants to burry red Gura, not let her split to some other channel.

>>14900638
TIK TOK CHICKENSHIT
Is Suisei just inclining that fast? I feel like Kiara was well ahead of her when she hit a mil

>>14903182
Suisei is a pretty big outlier too since she's more of a vsinger than a streamer

>>14903229
Suisei's growth is on par with Miko and Pekora

>>14903182
Suisei gets a lot of her income from ad revenue from her songs alone. Her SC game was never that good and she never does SC reading. Also, she gets a shit ton of advertisements along with 3D concerts and her radio show. She's not a good medium since she is earning more than your average holo.

>>14903176
I bet if someone reminded you of the 50% debuff EN is permanently under you'd call that cope, but this is totally sane posting

>>14903128
We will never know those sponsorship and merch numbers so it's better to ignore those.

>>14903128
as >>14902255 said, aqua used to be a top SC earner (still is top 5 all time) and shes basically given up on streaming for shilling shit and doing concerts

>>14903356
This is already debunked. Find another cope

>>14903356
Anon, knock it off. It's not 50%, the diff between JP and EN with adblock usage is about 5-10% tops (Jp gets hit by it too)

>>14903381
sure, until some retard starts bringing up SCs like they are the only money a vchuuba gets like that selenigger that constantly plagues us.

>>14903381
If you want you can try calculating Suisei's income from her CD since we have the Oricon number. It's only Japan but you can use it for the floor.

>>14903381
You can't actually ignore them when you are talking about where do vtubers earn more and then you get a Polka that gets lots of endorsements that says SCs don't matter and Coco who doesn't get sponsorships at all but gets a ton of SCs.

I don't get to follow Ayame much.

Was this merch already available? I thought she sold out.
Is this new or a reprint?

>>14903421
The fanbase who constantly bring up SC number is Coco/kson fanbase.

>>14903539
In these threads the only times SCs are brought up it's by nijiniggers plagued with small dog syndrome demanding that nijiEN be viewed as a comparable force to HoloEN

>>14903525
Merch Special editions are the ones that have a limit (due to often including something hand-singed).
Items are otherwise on a made-to-order basis for Holomerch, so they don't 'sell out', they just stop being sold instead.

Final Tally Anon?
Did we confirm that Foobs robbed King of the Bronze?

>>14903525

this place is unhinged

>>14903421
it's the only stat we mostly know a base for.
Same as with 'subscriber' numbers for Twitch streamers.

>>14903384
Well it's not like Aqua reclined, it's just that everyone else around her inclined a lot more. She's going to earn nearly twice as much SC in 2021 as she did in 2019, but now that's only enough to make her around 20th for the year instead of 1st.or

Actually is there even a need to argue which number are important? People say SC money are important but chasing ccv, subs and VODs view get you sponsorship money which is money as well
No number is more important, it just which kind of number you choose to focus on because they will bring in the money either way

>>14903421
What about those people who seethe like maniacs and call for Council's graduation for not SC baiting and trying to nerf them?

>>14903093
Actually she never gave a percentage as Coco and for the current persona she's most likely winging it like she always does when someone asks about statistics. Isolation period Coco got barely any sponsorships or merch and the new persona does so I doubt it's true anyway.

>>14903773
She traded the incomes of streaming regularly with merch/concert/sponsorship money. Given what we do know about how much more they get from that, a fair trade, but aqua...oh my dear aqua, why....

>>14903794
them too

>>14903703
I don't get how. This place is honest. Probably the least schizo thread in the catalogue.

>>14903788
not really, the issue comes when people start going "X makes so little SCs, they should be graduated" or "CCV doesn't count, we should focus on SCs instead because they make my side look better"

>>14903421
SC is our most reliable data so whatever. We can also ballpark ad and member revenues

VTuber income is pretty cracked tho holy shit. No wonder Calli, Kiara and Ame were humbled after a few months.

>>14903188
>>14903188
>>14903188
Yo, bros

>>14900477
Not true. Haachama outpaced her during the schizo arc.

>>14903794
Anyone calling for a Hololive member to be graduated for low numbers is retarded, but it's not like Council get a ton of sponsorships or merch is it? Myth can make plenty of money just fine without SC baiting but Council are getting mogged on every moneymaking front, the least they could do is try to pull their weight a little harder on the easiest way to make cash.

>>14904012
remember to use sage condoms while traversong bait threads ;)

>>14904041
Muth probably told them that SCs don't matter and to take it easy since everything comes easy.

>>14903924
Sometime I feel like I am the only one willing to look at number objectively here. The way I look at numbers is like RPG stats, I recognize that each chuuba have their strong numbers and their weak numbers, no chuuba are perfect
That's the best way to look at number imo

>>14904041
People forget Myth had no/little merch for a long time before things picked up. If anything Omocat showed there’s still some pent up demand

>>14903773
Her having only 2 songs left in the weekly charts towards the lower end with 50k and 60k views is a clear recline in interest for her channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIw-fcD1m6w

>>14904041
anon Council just got blue archive and appeared at that con which probably paid them alot of money for that appearance, and they've barely been around for five months.

>>14904220
5? 4.
Also some other gacha. Fauna is the only poor person and she just blew $10k on equipment. There was con merch and that tapestry. They might have some merch at the holo expo in a few months too.

>>14900515
who said permissions would disappear

>>14904323
It's not a maybe. All of EN will have merch in theconvention.

>>14904329
She did, and traditionally pokemon permissions for Hololive have been tied to NND sponsorship of the game because they can't seem to negotiate a blanket permission agreement with the other partners (TPC, Gamefreak) despite having one with Nintendo.

Anyway chances Pekora gonna do something good tomorrow with her new outfit instead of lazing around like in the first half of 2021. Gotta show it off after all

>>14904057
this would only matter if OPs couldn't bump the thread on every single post.

>>14902963
Why would Gura care about easy content when she just disappears for days at a time when her schedule's done?
Wouldn't she actually stream more if she cared about easy content?

>>14904041
>calling for graduate
Nothing but schizos. Numberfags only called out council for how little and unorganized they streamed last month. But Fauna and Mumei picked up the slack with Bae recently, so you barely see their name here now, except for you know

>>14904485
>wouldn't she do more if she was lazy
Chumbud here, are you proof reading this shit?

>>14904012
>containment thread attracts shitposting
>fag mad about it for some reason
this board really has some high iq individuals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28xhQp66SBs
The side by side animation about how the Hololive Rhythm Heaven Remix 10 animation was made also got over 1 million views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32RJPfqxwFo
2 million now for the main one, combined 7.3 million views for the channel, all Holo animations.

>>14904682
Baby's first 4chan board.

>>14904734
So this is the power of hololive

>>14904547
what?

So today
Pekora was sent to battle Niji main force
Kuzuha coming to help them but got stopped by FBK chasing after him
After defeating Kuzuha, FBK joined Pekora, completely crushed the Niji from both above and below
It was a successful operation

>>14901268
nah ill keep paying youtube premium + members for my oshi because I actually like them

>>14904950
cringe

>>14901574
that already includes the twitch subs (its the same thing as youtube memberships).

>>14904996
I know, I purposefully make it sound like cringe fanfic

>>14902013
she only reads some of the scs, never all of them. She probably filters just the sc she likes/finds interesting/has something to comment on

>>14904524
Fauna didn't improve all that much, it was Kronii and Mumei that picked up for Sana and Bae's slack.

>>14902475
by the way the more you filter demographics, the more the ads will cost you, each

Fuck this!
I didnt join Nijisanji to be shat on !
La putana holobrony!

>>14904323
>Fauna is the only poor person
Why is she the only that doesn't have any sponsorship so far? Why does she turn off ads in most of her ASMR videos? Does she hates money or something?

>>14905135
you`re fucking ugly anyways, reimu puta

>>14905234
Why did she change brio? The new live2d is so fucking ugly.

>>14905085
Kronii also slacked killing her momentum.

So anyway predictions for the male wave? I don't feel like it can get 20k. But it might as well be above that since it's a "new" buff.

>>14905260
Kronii has improved a lot this month, she is only below Gura in CCV after she stopped nerfing herself so much.

>>14905234
incel anon puta

>>14898032
Entire company lost to one Hololive Vtuber

>>14905257
She fell for the artgun meme...
>>14905278
IF the twitter followers ACTUALLY show up, breaking 20k on debut is possible and I'd consider it a success. If it fails to break 20k and then the wave proceeds to end up with lackluster views? Oh boy that won't be good.

>>14904996
all of this is cringe anon

>>14905160
it makes sense she disables ads in her ASMR streams because getting interrupted by noisy ads at the middle of an ASMR session ruins the experience.

>>14900750
I will never kneel to NijiSCUM

>>14904012
we are getting too stong numberbros, we are hurting the feelings of nijiniggers

>>14905278
I'm guessing 20k might be the floor since it's "new"

>>14900898
>>14900984
Gonna remember this Nijikeks

>>14897911

Prequel : Have Confidence

The ground started to rumble, and Marine quickly stopped drawing, lest her precious pekora painting get ruined. 'So they're already here' she thought. It mattered not, the painting was already complete, she was simply making it as perfect as she could with light touches. Chocosen and Mel were on standby, and she gave the picture to them, along with a group hug where she copped a few feels in exchange for some kisses.
She saw them off, and as the rumbling became stronger, she could see the gargantuan army drawing closer and closer. She smiled, despite knowing it was her defeat. For she was not the star today. She faced her Ichimi, and shouted:
"Kimitachi ~ Shukkou ~".
And so the battle began.
---+++---
Toya watched as Marine faded into glitter, still with that smug look on her face. There was no "death" for the Generals in the traditional sense, they simply re-formed at their respective castles when they were "defeated". So most victors usually let the loser go, sometimes as a friendly gesture, and sometimes as an additional humiliation. But this woman had been a thorn in King Riku's side for so long, and even during today's battle she was just so smug and annoying, despite being faced with a force 4 times her army. As if she already knew who would win. As if she had no respect for their King's hard earned army.
So after the victory, he had ordered Kuzuha to "kill" her, just as a form of cheap vengeance for all the times she had stolen the Gold honor from them long ago.
"General, we should get moving." Captain Kuzuha said, snapping him out of his thoughts.
He nodded "Yeah, organize the army, I'll lead the way. You should be able to settle the score with that Vampire as well".
Kuzuha narrowed his eyes "You know that was just a one-time fluke. She's never really been a true threat, and doubly so today."
Toya closed his eyes and breathed in "Yeah". They had one of their toughest opponents ahead of them. She would be using her new armor, which her soldiers had been waiting on for so long.

He had activated his one-use-per-year "Steering Wheel" spell-item, and it was empowering the numbers of pretty much all the surrounding villages and cities that were linked to it, even those of the peasant levies. The first use of the spell-item had given him his first Gold honor in the longest time, perhaps even the first time ever, for he could not remember ever feeling so ecstatic at an honor before. But after that, King Riku had seen fit to link the spell-item to his own castle, instead of Toya's. He had some reservations about that decision, but then an army 111k strong had marched in to the city, quelling all the petty doubts he had. He was ashamed of his selfishness, and letting his own ego get in the way of the common good. King Riku had been magnanimous, and given him sub-command of this new army. Captain Kuzuha also had his own 43k in reserve.

He was confident in his army and his scouting. His enemy's soldiers had been slacking this past week, with only 22 to 25k showing up for her battles. Even with the new armor's buff, he expected maybe 90k or 100k of them to show up.
They would be crushed. King Riku would get his Gold today. He would make sure of it.

>>14905278
Anything less than 140k is a massive flop. HoloX's lowest member got about 140k on their debut (Lui). If the new Nijis don't hit at least that than its proof that Nijisanji is reclining.

>>14905618
This, anything below 140k and they should graduate in the spot.

Looked at male wave's twitter again

2 is clean, one is in prison and the other 2 is DOA just because I saw a pepe and that fat milady meme pic. Vox is even last I think.

>>14905688
How did Vox end up last.

imagine wasting time watching nijisanji

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>187,336: Pekora (Hololive)
>111,325: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>42,954: Fubuki (Hololive)
>41,963: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>35,071: Toya (Nijisanji)
>26,428: Marine (Hololive)
>26,357: Mel (Hololive)
>26,210: Korone (Hololive)
>22,321: Miko (Hololive)
>20,415: Laplus (Hololive)
>18,094: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,026: Ayame (Hololive)
>17,979: Calli (Hololive)
>17,139: Saegusa Akina (Nijisanji)
>17,079: Axia Krone (Nijisanji)
>16,349: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>15,983: Ars Almal (Nijisanji)
>15,630: Mito (Nijisanji)
>15,510: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,371: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,141: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,588: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,327: Leos (Nijisanji)
>13,831: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,557: Kaede (Nijisanji)
>12,836: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,647: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,523: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>10,975: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,953: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>10,673: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>10,464: Shiina Yuika (Nijisanji)
>10,313: Lauren (Nijisanji)

One of the strongest days for Nijisanji on recent record

>>14904422
She said she has a very important recording to do tomorrow. So it depends on how tired she will be.

>>14905713
Last as in the debut order

>>14905741
IT FUCKING SLIPPED

>>14905741
That is indeed the bumper harvest of 10k+ streams. It's a shame they can't convert them in any shape way or form to long-term day-to-day watchers.

>>14905741
Hololive 13
Nijisanji 17

Nijisanji actually won a day in the rankings for once but still lost the top ten count 7-3. Nijisanji hasn't won a top ten count since like September.

>>14905741
18 Nijis
13 Holos
2 Merise

Wew.. And they're buffing the new male wave too. Was it deliberate/intentional to debut them today too?

>>14905278
They have revealed their voices in the PV, the model isn't really special either. The level of interest is the same as the previous waves so I think ~15k

>>14905688
>I saw a pepe and that fat milady
So they're memelorfs. Hopefully they aren't 4channers babbling about the most poppin fresh maymays on stream. If they're /here/ I will anti. I hate /here/ but fortunately there are few vtubers.

>>14904012
kek, anyone using the word "petition" unironically is likely a commie, a faggot and a /qa/edditard

>>14905741
FBKing. I kneel

>>14905803
Just look at the main stream, it has like 2 millions views already and very little of that translate to views for the chuubas after the tournament. It's honestly impressive in a way.

Reimu, if you see this, you really need to talk to your management about cringy ass shorts just before debut. I cringed looking at them just to see their numbers. picrel

>>14905618
I mean they do have a reputation of having more popular guys than Holostar
If this wave don't at least do as good as Holostar then well, that's the end for them

Part 1 : >>14905563
Part 2 : >>14897911

Final Part : Twenty Three Men

Toya returned to the Castle having won the honor of Silver... but after his first taste of the Gold honor a week ago, this just didn't feel as good. He had lost with probably the highest numbers he could potentially get, and the Demon Rabbit had humiliated him further by letting him live. Though perhaps to her, it was just a game. He could never tell what went on inside their greatest rival's head.
He clenched his fist and then relaxed. No matter. They had the Silver honor, and Captain Kuzuha's army had secured the honor of Bronze today. King Riku's army would be revived tomorrow, and the Demon Lord's armor would no longer be at the peak of its power. Their scouting was immaculate, they still had the Steering Wheel spell-item going, and there would be no other obstacles. It felt just the slightest bit hollow, but their gold honor was pretty much assured for tomorrow.

He heard some commotion from the revival room, and walked in to find Kuzuha materializing. He felt confused for a bit, Captain Kuzuha should have returned to the castle via the Cavalry roads, so why would he-
His eyes widened, as he suddenly remembered something that had completely slipped his mind. His men made way for him as he moved towards the stairs leading up to the revival circle.
"Captain!" he shouted at Kuzuha, who grimaced and grabbed at his head.
"Can you stop shouting at me just after revival, General? It hurts my head." he said with a sneer.
"Ah, sorry." Toya calmed himself, then met Kuzuha's eyes and asked the dreaded question "Was it the Fox?".
Kuzuha sat down on the stairs and crossed his arms on his legs. After a few tense seconds, he put his head between his arms and then sighed "Yeah".
Horror and Rage warred within Toya, but he tightened his clenched fist and took a deep breath. And then another.

This was another threat they had begun to face this month - Fubuki the wicked white fox of yore. They were used to her armies being around 8-10k on bigger days, but all of a sudden they had surged to 30k, then 35k, and sometimes even 40k. That was not big enough to threaten Gold most of the days this month, but she had been consistently stealing the Silver and Bronze honors for an uncomfortable number of days. Scouts reported that she was using some spell-item called "Red Fish naa". He didn't exactly understand how it worked, but his officers had assured him that such items wouldn't be usable for a very long time.

"...how could that be possible? All our scouts from her territory had reported that her biggest army size to date should have been 42k!" he took another breath. It would be beneath the General, no matter how inexperienced, to let him emotions get the best of him.
Kuzuha said nothing for a while, then sighed again "There was an instant that she had 23 more men than me, and she attacked the Cavalry road at that exact moment. She also said 'This is for Marine!' when she defeated me."
Toya felt his mouth dry up, and felt himself drop on his knees and palms. That demonic sadist rabbit... did she knew this would happen? Was this why she let him live? A difference of a mere Twenty-Three men, and they had lost their all but guaranteed Bronze... Toya felt his stomach tie itself into a knot, and resisted the urge to puke in front of his men.
Kuzuha sighed again, and wrapped his arm around his shoulder "Let it go Toya, we have the gold locked for tomorrow, and I'll get us the silver back. Don't lose sight of our goals."
That shook him up. Right, the day was done - there was no need for formalities, or to refer to each other by their titles anymore. He let Kuzuha drag him to the stairs, and sat down in thought as Kuzuha ordered his men to bring them some beer.
This... this was just bullshit! How could they lose an honor with just a twenty three man difference!? Even as he narrowed his eyes, he struggled to control his anger. No. He was DONE with this shit. They no longer had the luxury to care about "fairness". Their "guaranteed gold" was the work of many folks within their Kingdom, most of all himself and King Riku.
He took a long gulp of the beer the men had brought. So what if there was no competition? Gold was Gold. And they would celebrate it.
And so they spent the entire night drinking.

>>14905984
Doubt anyone would stay to watch them. I mean, ludwig is there.

>>14903176
Gura and other EN shilled for Pekora, and Bae did a collab with her. A big chunk of EN audience can't watch due to timeslot, but the westaboos can watch, and they are a part of the box.

Part 1 : >>14905563
Part 2 : >>14897911

Final Part : A Thousand Men

Toya returned to the Castle having won the honor of Silver... but after his first taste of the Gold honor a week ago, this just didn't feel as good. He had lost with probably the highest numbers he could potentially get, and the Demon Rabbit had humiliated him further by letting him live. Though perhaps to her, it was just a game. He could never tell what went on inside their greatest rival's head.
He clenched his fist and then relaxed. No matter. They had the Silver honor, and Captain Kuzuha's army had secured the honor of Bronze today. King Riku's army would be revived tomorrow, and the Demon Lord's armor would no longer be at the peak of its power. Their scouting was immaculate, they still had the Steering Wheel spell-item going, and there would be no other obstacles. It felt just the slightest bit hollow, but their gold honor was pretty much assured for tomorrow.

He heard some commotion from the revival room, and walked in to find Kuzuha materializing. He felt confused for a bit, Captain Kuzuha should have returned to the castle via the Cavalry roads, so why would he-
His eyes widened, as he suddenly remembered something that had completely slipped his mind. His men made way for him as he moved towards the stairs leading up to the revival circle.
"Captain!" he shouted at Kuzuha, who grimaced and grabbed at his head.
"Can you stop shouting at me just after revival, General? It hurts my head." he said with a sneer.
"Ah, sorry." Toya calmed himself, then met Kuzuha's eyes and asked the dreaded question "Was it the Fox?".
Kuzuha sat down on the stairs and crossed his arms on his legs. After a few tense seconds, he put his head between his arms and then sighed "Yeah".
Horror and Rage warred within Toya, but he tightened his clenched fist and took a deep breath. And then another.

This was another threat they had begun to face this month - Fubuki the wicked white fox of yore. They were used to her armies being around 8-10k on bigger days, but all of a sudden they had surged to 30k, then 35k, and sometimes even 40k. That was not big enough to threaten Gold most of the days this month, but she had been consistently stealing the Silver and Bronze honors for an uncomfortable number of days. Scouts reported that she was using some spell-item called "Red Fish naa". He didn't exactly understand how it worked, but his officers had assured him that such items wouldn't be usable for a very long time.

"...how could that be possible? All our scouts from her territory had reported that her biggest army size to date should have been 42k!" he took another breath. It would be beneath the General, no matter how inexperienced, to let him emotions get the best of him.
Kuzuha said nothing for a while, then sighed again "There was an instant that she had about a thousand more men than me, and she attacked the Cavalry road at that exact moment. She also said 'This is for Marine!' when she defeated me."
Toya felt his mouth dry up, and felt himself drop on his knees and palms. That demonic sadist rabbit... did she knew this would happen? Was this why she let him live? A difference of just a thousand men, and they had lost their all but guaranteed Bronze... Toya felt his stomach tie itself into a knot, and resisted the urge to puke in front of his men.
Kuzuha sighed again, and wrapped his arm around his shoulder "Let it go Toya, we have the gold locked for tomorrow, and I'll get us the silver back. Don't lose sight of our goals."
That shook him up. Right, the day was done - there was no need for formalities, or to refer to each other by their titles anymore. He let Kuzuha drag him to the stairs, and sat down in thought as Kuzuha ordered his men to bring them some beer.
This... this was just bullshit! How could they lose an honor with just a thousand man difference!? Even as he narrowed his eyes, he struggled to control his anger. No. He was DONE with this shit. They no longer had the luxury to care about "fairness". Their "guaranteed gold" was the work of many folks within their Kingdom, most of all himself and King Riku.
He took a long gulp of the beer the men had brought. So what if there was no competition? Gold was Gold. And they would celebrate it.
And so they spent the entire night drinking.

>>14905888
do you hate yourself anon?

>>14904012
It got deleted

>>14905741
>strong day for Nijishitty
>didn't even come close to gold despite a hyped up tournament
>"King" cucked out of bronze
Whatever helps you cope Nijinigger

>>14906398
That is...unsurprising. While the intentions may be good (improving the board by reducing the amount of blatant shitposts) such an obviously newfag/reddiarted idea when the jannies and mods here are relatively inactive (given the size and speed of the board) was never going to really stick around.

>>14905741
So let me get this straight. Certain Nijiniggers have been hyping this tournament up since the end of their dumb baseball shit and it couldn't even get gold? That is fucking sad.

>>14906499
nta but its called being gracious in victory. Relax.

>>14906593
If it was a smaller Holo sure it would’ve beat them but competing against a Pekora costume reveal was delusional.
Only koshien can top that.

Team to overlap debut nijien.

Mumei start at 3:00 PM PST
Gura start at 5:00 PM PST
Calliope start at 7:00 PM PST

>>14906505
Kinda makes me want to apply to do it for free... but I just primarily orbit this thread and the only reason I'd apply is to simply get rid of the garbage that constantly gets thrown in here as if it were somehow this thread's responsibility to watch over. Not sure if I'd do a good job managing other threads at all (even though I've had previous mod experience in relatively large forums) since I am not familiar with the internal culture of the threads past the board rule compliance...

Laplus just passed Kronii and Iroha just passed Bae.

>>14906821
>thinking their fandom overlap

>>14906894
That was inevitable. They killed their own growth.

>>14906895
Not about core fandoms, but making sure that those less invested or the curious onlookers have options counter to the debut.

>>14906894
based laplus

>>14906895
>fandom
It's about tourism denial, anon. Even the greater entertainment industry does this.

>>14906950
Not only that, they stayed silent, whereas La+ basically shitposted her dropping subs, very LOUDLY proclaiming that 'HEY YT WTF?' may have helped stave off any further culls OR made people aware there was an issue so they'd resub if they did get removed.

>>14906950
Absolutely, for example the only that has grow more than 1k today is Kronii. Does anyone have how many subs Council had in their first month? I wanna compare that with what X has.

Ok now we know what happen when Pekora unbraid her hair
What's next? Gura going edgy mode?

>>14906998
She is actually beating Chloe in 7 days growth now.

>>14906821
>Mumei farming the early people
>Gura to overlap the debut
>Mori to kill the debut after talk
Bravo

>>14907248
Ame stepping in with a MC collab to help with killing audience attention as well.

>>14906821
Bretty gud defensive line from Holo.

Predictions for the Holoteam vs Nijimales?

>>14907346
Gura is gonna beat them, that's for sure.

>>14907303
>tfw Ame is the best free safety in Hololive

>>14907346
Easy 20k+ for Mumei karaoke, funneled into Gura meme content. And the funneled again by Mori's rap stream and a huge minecraft collab. It's over. Hololive isn't holding back for this.

Ollie and moona numbers.

>>14907313
I wonder what the homos are thinking about this right now.

>>14907460
how long does a moomers kara usually go? There's an opportunity to lose momentum if she checks out after an hour

>>14907573
roughly 2 hours it looks like

>>14907537
Assuming that they we're a bunch of spergs back in high school, they're probably gonna have some flashbacks.

>>14907573
Here's her previous karaoke hours:
howdy: 1h36m
noise!: 1h47m
mic test 1 2: 1h51m
members, 28th nov: 1h46m
sleepy singing: 44m
what: 1h16m
Give or take an hour and 30 minutes. I'd assume she's going to go the full 2 hours since it's a special karaoke.

>>14906894
Council don't care. Myth gave them shitty advice and they basically killed the entire EN branch as a result

>>14907052
>Does anyone have how many subs Council had in their first month? I wanna compare that with what X has.
I tried scouring the archives, but came out with nothing, mainly because there is just so much to sift through even for just one day of content and the only noteworthy thing being documented at the time with any regularity was the newly implemented sub culling.

Not that it matter anymore anyways. What they need to do now is simply to start producing content more often and in greater quantity (for some of them). Then there's the elephant in the room...

>>14905741
When you think about it, it's not like hololive and nijisanji don't have an overlap in viewership. If pekora had simply chosen an uncontested date for her outfit reveal rather than going head to head with a massive nijisanji event it seems to me that she easily could have gotten the last ~10k or so to push her over gura's record.

Instead of doing that and trying to one-up her colleague she directly challenged the nijis just to dab on them instead.

>>14907927
I wonder if they did it on purpose, to weaken the competition.

>>14907052
>>14907973
socialblade.com

>>14908232
Of course they did. It makes no fucking sense for them to offer that stupid advice to them.

Luca Kaneshiro waiting room - 300 waiting
Shu Yamino waiting room - 204 waiting
Ike Eveland waiting room - 232 waiting
Mysta Rias waiting room - 284 waiting
Vox Akuma waiting room - 234 waiting


Mumei - 723 waiting
Gura - 696 waiting
Mori - 397 waiting

OH NYO...