/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yagoo is scared

Nobody is watching them anyway

She learned from Ame.

>Nijihomos getting culled hard by Susan
They're going to be stillborn at this rate.

Yeah its npt a coincidence at this point the holoEn girls always find a way to stream on top of nijiEn event or debut.

>Fish tank during Lazu debut
>Something I can't remember during Obsydia debut
>No major event during Ethyria
>Ame rescheduled her ameverse stream so she'd be streaming at the time as Petra's birthday.

Yep, this is being done on purpose.

I'm sure the prettyboy male VTubers were really aiming for the Chumbud audience. Huge overlap there in demographic for sure. Tragic.

Chumpedos don't even watch other holoENs so it's fine

Nijisanji also had 3D and Big Collabs overlapping the HoloX Debuts.

You really think they'll leave the timeslot vacant for the rival company?

>>14866151
HoloX debuts came out of nowhere and the 3D and collabs were announced weeks in advance.

>>14865541
they're gonna flop, nobody actually cares about dudetubers especially non-JP ones

>>14865541
>nijimale
>male
They'll be 2views anyway. I can't even name a male vtuber that's actually relevant.

>>14866211
cope

>>14865872
I blame management

>>14865872
Didn't they have that giant Dead by Daylight collab during the Ethyria debut? Or was that Obsydia?

>>14867435
That was Obsydia.
Ethyria had Selen taking the spotlight from them in their watchalong.

Based sharki. Fuck those faggots.

>>14865872
During the ethyria debut they did that DbD collab, and during Obsydia....I don't remember but I remember something unusual happening during then as well

>>14865541
Jesus Christ Yagoo. That's ice cold. Will these fags even get double digits now that they're up against the queen of vtubers going all out.

>Holo doing every fucking thing they can to scramble a big stream at the same time as a Niji debut
I don't get why this doesn't piss off more people, or how people can still say there isn't a NijiEN collab ban

BASED GURA FUCKING BAAAAAAAAAAAASED
HOLY FUCK I KNEEL

>conspiracy theorists
medicate please.

>>14865638
Of course, use the scapegoat for a consistent pattern by HoloEN. At least be a smug faggot and own up to it.

>>14867779
It gets better. Mumei is doing a karaoke stream beforehand,so she’ll be funneling even more viewers to Gura.

>>14867916
>Conspiracy
Four times in a fucking row this has happened

And this time, specifically, is Gura rescheduling "for some reason" at the exact same time and day the boys are starting

>>14867916
no more. im finally seeing through your nigger smoke screen

>>14867821
Why would it make any reasonable person upset? Fuck nijiniggers

>>14867821
>I don't get why this doesn't piss off more people
plausible deniability

>>14867916
>say while being implanted the mark of the beast 4 times a year

>>14868236
Because it's pathetic and stupid?

>>14868069
Holofags still in denial that they are the ones blocking collabs on their end, funny to see the copes.

>>14868457
Good, I hope they are the ones blocking.

>>14865541
Based, there's not such a thing as ''saving a time'' holos even overlap with each other why should they care about nijisanji

>>14867821
>I don't get why this doesn't piss off more people
1. I'm not attached to nijisanji so don't care
2. It's fair game, is not their fault the homos can't pull big numbers by themselves regardless of what the girls do or don't do
3. Nijis do sabotage in other ways

>>14865541
>Implying the children and pedos that watch shark are interested in male entertainers
I'm not watching either

>>14868354
>bro they have to give a fuck about these literal whos
No. I don't want them to collab with them either so this is good.

Shouldn't be surprising, Hololive brought in soulless corporate practices like blocking collabs and seeing groups that treated them friendly as their enemies, this is just par for the course.

>>14868457
collabs are gay, especially the ones you have in mind

What are the odds that only like 5 of the 30 IPs in this thread actually watch vtubers at all? We're really just giving up and turning into a gossip board at this point.
>OH MY GAAAAAAAAAWD did you HEAR what Gura did!?!?!?!?!?! She MOVED a stream!

Competing companies are competing? Holy shit I've heard some wild schizo shit before but this is too much

>>14868767
I feel like after three (?) separate incidents of them just so happening to schedule big HoloEN events over NijiEN debuts, specifically AFTER said debuts are announced, it's worth giving them a side eye over it.
The saying goes "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action." for a reason, after all.
(To be clear: I'm not one of the cunts who thinks there's some big Holo war, but I CAN believe some part of HoloEN management DOES think there is one, and acts like a shithead accordingly.)
>>14868933
Competition and deliberate (if we're assuming it IS deliberate of course, still no proof) sabotage are different things.

>>14868933
Yeah Hololive was the first company from any industry in the world to do it

>>14868457
No, we're very well aware that the Covers management is fucking terrible.
Not much the fans or holos can do about that, though.

as if her audience have similar interests rent fucking free

>>14865541
They make it too obvious

>>14865541
Every single Niji EN Debut the Cover schedules a huge Gura collab.

>>14869073
This is nowhere near sabotage, holy shit.

>>14867821
People don't care about Niji

Shark Based

HoloJP and NijiJP are cool
HoloID and NijiID are cool
HoloEN and NijiEN don't like one another.
>b-but twitter
Doesn't matter, the majority of talents on both sides either don't care for the other side or outright dislike them. This is my headcanon and history is proving me right. I have no idea how Vshoujo of all groups manages to be the most civil and friendly of the EN groups, but that's the reality we live in.

>>14869329
If it's deliberate then yes, it would be. They'd be intentionally pulling potential viewers away to another stream.
>>14869414
>the majority of talents on both sides either don't care for the other side or outright dislike them.
Pretty much all the Nijis except like, Petra are at least moderate Hololive fans, and I think almost all the Holos (including notably isolationist Ame) follow at least one Niji, but I'm too lazy to check.
>T-that's twitter though
So? There's evidence against them not liking each other and no evidence, as far as I know, for it. The source doesn't change that.

>>14865541
sorry. "some stuff" came up on a Saturday night. You understand.

>>14869329
It is sabotage when Holo controls the english Youtube market for vtubers while most fans of NijiEN are just Holo fans

>>14865541
They don't even have same target audiences. Peoples who watch Gura will never watch males..

>>14869551
The evidence of them not liking each other is blocking collabs, not reaching out to each other and streaming over the other groups' stuff. It's clear as day if you're not blind.

>>14869681
It's not even just that. It's Youtube algorithm bullshit too, since more people will be watching the Gura stream, less people will even realize the debuts are happening

>>14865872
During Obsidia, Gura had some solo stream scheduled that she had to cancel. Don't remember why or what the stream was.

>>14867188

>>14865541
oopsie

>>14869648
This is not a fucking charity. Hololive doesn't have any obligation to help 2viewsanji

>>14869822
>male
>japanese
>plays mostly shooters
How does he get so many views? It's like bizzaro world.

>>14869551
NijiEN males look cringe and gay, they're sabotaging themselves if anything. Seems like they're pandering to fujos and supporters of alternate lifestyles, which isn't Gura's market

>>14869073
You're beyond retarded

>>14869551
yeah because it's not like Nijisanji runs ads on Hololive videos or anything.

>>14869953
Gura probably has more female viewers than this fagboi. >>14869822

>>14870039
no no, he's starting to convince me, maybe another essay will change my mind?

>>14867821
>everyone should be friends
>just let the money slip out of your hands
They're corpos. Everyone is competing, even the girls from the same company. Getting mad at this only means you've watched barnie the dinosaur for way too long.

Do the branches actually not like each other? NijiEN does have members that were rejected from HoloEN.

>>14870128
Trannies don't count

>>14870128
Gura's fanbase is mostly children.

>>14869804
just blame everything on xxx or yyy with no proof whatsoever sasuga anon

>>14869804
oh man it's a super genius that understands the algorithm. Am I literally talking to Nux right now?

>>14869414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWpG1ba8Psg
Meds.

>>14870445
Girls exists anon

>>14870790
Women are irked by Gura's pedo model and pedo pandering

>>14870834
despite what you might have heard not all women are insecure petty bitches.

>>14870583
>This one instance disproves the months of evidence.
I don't blame them for not liking one another. Nijis have a reason to dislike HoloEN for throwing some of them out. I guess from Holo's side they just want to protect their lead at all costs.

>>14870834
No, women love cute shits and half of them unconditionally love children.

>>14870048
Ok? Running ads on others in the same industry makes sense. That's completely different from intentionally streaming over their debuts.
There's a difference between "Hey, if you like them you might also like me, come check it out!" and "Hey, don't watch them debut, watch me RIGHT NOW instead!"

>>14871032
No, there is no difference, you only think there is because you like Nijis and are jealous of hololive's success.

>>14870158
If 4 sentences is an "essay" you might just be retarded, sorry to tell you.

>>14871032
>This is what nijiniggers actually believe

>>14871032
>Ads by Hololive when they were smaller
>Completely fine.
>Ads by any other group
NOOOOOOOOO

>>14871148
You didn't see the sarcasm and you're definitely a faggot. Have fun watching cute boys debut with the other 500 viewers.

imagine watching males

>>14870896
>not all women are insecure petty bitches.
except gura apparently

>>14870834
Twitter isn't the model for normal women anon. Get off the internet.

>>14871343
Nothing personnel kiddo

>>14871143
>>14871197
>Actual schizos who believe the corporations and streamers hate each other
here's your (you)

>>14871470
I'm not the one trying to claim that putting ads over your competitors channel is fair game but streaming in the same timeslot is somehow over the line.

Nijifags with victim complex towards hololive kek, how the mighty have fallen.

>>14871143
Do you think it's bad when Disney has trailers before another companies films? Because this is effectively the same thing.
The difference is that it doesn't harm the other company in any way, it just benefits yourself. Meanwhile deliberately streaming over an event (again assuming it is deliberate, which is still questionable) DOES harm them. That's literally it.
Hololive doesn't have to HELP Nijisanji, but they could not go out of their way to HURT them. It's not like Hololive has any reason to be scared of Nijisanji overtaking them any time soon, so it just comes off as spiteful rather than competitive.
>>14871236
I can't tell if this is meant to be a disagreement but yeah, both are fine. They run ads and tell youtube to put them on vtuber related videos (obviously), of course it'll show up before other companies. That's the point, you want to grab as wide of an audience as you can.

>>14870896
>>14870986
>>14871365
Count the women in this picture. I see zero. The conventions must've really blackpilled holos when they saw their fans were nothing but ugly neckbeards.

>>14871553
Streaming in the same timeslot assuming it's deliberately streaming over the debuts. The keyword being "deliberately". If it's just a coincidence then yes, it's nothing.

>>14871676
cope

Kek good luck with that gura

>>14871650
No I agree that whining about the ads is some of the weaker bait on the board since it involves purposefully being dense about how ads work in the first place.

>>14871650
>they could not go out of their way to HURT them
why should they? I don't see any of you retards complaining when Nijisanji did their 3d reveals over Mel's birthday but then the nijimales debut and you're all up in arms over Hololive not giving way.

>>14871768
Can't see any women there either. Just a bunch of fluorescent sticks.

>>14871553
Adverts are adverts anon. Everyone fucking advertises, it's not a "competitors channel" it's literally youtube's "similar channel as what's being advertised" algorithm. Do you honestly believe that anycolor go "Yeah I want to advertise on videos for these SPECIFIC channels"? Are you THAT much a schizo?

Purposely changing your time slot is very specific controlled action.

>>14865541
Why I would watch a meme review from Gura of all people if there are cute anime boys debuting? I don't get it

>>14871949
It's not streaming over them that's the problem. There's only so many reasonable timeslots in a day. The only reason I'm even slightly inclined to think it's malicious is that it's happened 3 times now, but in the likely case that Gura just went "Gotta reschedule, 8 tomorrow looks good" then it's fine.
No one needs to check every other company's schedule to stream around their stuff, but if you ARE checking their just so you can stream over them then yes, that's a dick move.

>>14872126
>Putting ads on your competitor's channel: Totally a okay.
>Streaming at the same time: Not okay
Nijinigger logic everyone

>>14871768
>It's a holoEN audience is the same as holoJP audience post

>>14872215
>Company can decided in advance what SPECIFIC channels they advertise on on youtube
Think anon THINK

>>14872215
Even ignoring your oversimplification of the problem, it's not like Hololive doesn't run ads as well.

>>14872182
Well, assume it's a dick move. What are you gonna do about it? Gonna try and force both companies to not compete? Retard.

>>14865541
>>14865872
>>14867916
>>14868069
Ok so I did look into this and...
>Lazulgiht - FishTank. Same day, Same hour,
>Obsydia - Surprise Ame Apex. Same day, one hour before and during debut.
>Ethyria - Dead by Daylight collab. Same day, one hour before and during debut.
>Luxiem - Gura Meme Review. Hasn't happened yet but will be Same day, during debut.
It is weird that every debut had a Hololive EN stream playing over it. More weird that most of them I would consider exciting streams, and two of them were changed/Surprises.

It would be interesting to see if normally 04:00-03:00 is a popular streaming time for Hololive EN, as all the females debut were at that time.

>>14872607
>04:00-03:00
UTC time sorry

>>14872380
I'm not saying ads are bad, I'm just calling out the double standard where running ads over your competitors channel is A-Okay but competing for the same primetime timeslot is a dick move. If one is a dick move then so is the other

>>14872182
Honestly this is 99% what actually happened because Gura does reschedule fairly often and she literally doesn't care about any other vtuber. She's both big enough and so self-contained that she'd probably schedule to stream over hololives other debuts too if she was planning on streaming that day.

>>14868354
Your "pathetic and stupid" is "based and redpilled" for me

>>14872753
what a coincidence, me too.

>>14872716
How is it double standards anon?
If you have a dreamworks movie advert run before a disney movie the idea is that you watch the dreamworks movie at another time after.
If both movies are only aired ONCE and AT THE EXACT SAME TIME then it's a completely different "Pick one or the other" move.
It's completely different things anon. You must have some kind of brain damage to think otherwise.

>>14865541
>Implying the audience is the same
Lets be honest, gurapedos would NEVER watch male streamers anyway.

I love my based shark wife

For fucks sake it's only a damn meme review. It isn't that fucking special.

You guys act like the whole fucking internet will go watch reviews of memes.

Also, Gura fans will only watch Gura. It isn't like she is going to garner or take away the audience that has been nijisanji fans, or nijisanji fans who have been waiting months for the boys debut.

>>14873085
Gura fans don't want to watch Nijisanji AND they don't want to watch Hololive. Only Gura.

it matters a lot less than you think. the people that watch gura weren't going to watch the nijimales in the first place, and vice versa

>>14871553
gura streams at this timeslot since the beginning
taking a day off on this day is a common practice for gura
they don't have SAME fucking target audiences

holy shit you gossiping faggots need to seek psychiatrist

>>14872989
>>14873214
wtf chumpedos are this based?

>>14872716
Look, imagine this:
>There's a large band having a concert. A smaller band puts up some posters for a concert of their own in a nearby space with plenty of other posters, because they know they have a similar target audience.
This is basically what Nijisanji's doing, and I don't think anyone would complain in this case. It's perfectly normal promotion, and they aren't exactly overstepping their bounds by advertising to people they can reasonably believe will enjoy their content.
Now imagine:
>The larger band and the smaller band have concerts at basically the same time, a prime timeslot on a weekend day.
This is what you're saying Hololive is doing, and most likely the case. And again here, there's nothing to complain about, even if it's unfortunate for the smaller group
vs.
>The smaller band schedules a concert. Within a few days the larger band announces they have a concert at the same time a few blocks away, deliberately making people choose between them when they know they share much of the same audience. They then do this again not just once, not just twice, but three more times.
THIS is what others are suggesting is happening, and I think most can agree that that's at the very least shittier than the other scenarios, even if you go "Well, all's fair in love and war".

>>14873271
I dunno, I know that at least for the LazuLight debuts I didn't watch specifically because I saw the podcast was scheduled at the same time and decided I'd rather watch that and catch the debut vod. I think the amount of people who would watch both if they were at different times is larger than you think.

>>14869822
Who?

>>14873926
Big problem though, is the fucking fact that they literally do not have the same target audience. Why can't this get through dumbshit skulls of this thread.

Gura isn't the fucking center of the damn universe. Those who are fans of her will watch her or not that day, it doesn't fucking matter.

Nijisanji EN audience, and nijisanji EN boys audience will give literal zero shit about Gura's meme review that day and watch the debut of the boys.

Let's also include another factor: ALL THE DEBUTS WILL BE ARCHIVED. In all honesty, who the fuck cares what the meme review does? The boys will still get attention and audience.

>>14874341
>>Nijisanji EN audience, and nijisanji EN boys audience will give literal zero shit about Gura's meme review that day and watch the debut of the boys.
This is delusional cope talk, the nijiEN and HoloEN audience shares a significant overlap. You can just look at the chat to see that, the memes that started in holoEN always find their way into the NijiEN chats, and occasionally you even find nijimemes in the HoloEN chat like how they go "I'm pomu" whenever a fairy appears.
This isn't like the JP side where both sides organically built up their own audiences and so they have minimal overlap, for the EN side pretty much everyone who's interested in vtubers got their start with HoloEN and branched out from there

>>14873315
I have been watching small niche since kizuna era. Now I couldn't care less about jp, let alone other EN vtubers.
Gura is simply all I wanted

I feel like the real reason behind Omegatranny's "fear" of NijiEN is not the possibility of losing viewers in bulk, but the threat of losing paypigs.
Paypigs are ultimately attention seekers, and because of this they are probably more prone to jump to another streamer than your regular hololive viewer. This already happened before when Uto and Nabi came around, yeah, you could say that was like only 5% during a couple months but that's still a lot of money that otherwise holoEN regulars are dumping somewhere else. The big deal with this is that if you keep conceding, what was 1% before turns into 5%... Then 10%... And as other vtuber companies come up and keep growing, they take up even more of their market share.

>>14870128
>being this new
kuzuha mogs your oshi and your parents

>>14870048
What kind of faggot watches ads?

Ok seriously, even if gura did deliberately stream over their debut, how is it that big of an "attack"? What exactly is stopping the stolen viewers from simply watching the VOD and then deciding to regularly watch the males or even if they don't watch VODs, to just catch the next stream?

I doubt that anyone would say "Damn I missed their debut, guess I cant watch them ever again"

Nobody who is watching Gura is going to watch NijiEN dudes.

>>14874921
It's because it isn't an attack. It's just niji cope.

>nijisister shitting on hololive on daily basis
>praise their 2ndrate cloutchasers chuuba to the sky
>HoloEN block collab
>E-EVIL CORPO! WHY DONT YOU WANT TO COLLAB WITH THEM!???
yeah nijiENniggers are the same collab beggars from early holoEN day

>>14875149
Isn't this holo cope though? Considering nijisanji fans could care less then shit about Gura streaming the same day as the guys debut?

>>14874677
i have never seen that pomu bullshit in an EN chat. If its KFP though, then I'd understand. Filthy traitors.

>>14869799
That's all Omega making them do it.

>>14875306
Try reading the thread

>>14875203
>cover is an evil corpo
This but unironically

>>14865872
>>14872607
I'm a Nijifag exclusively as of about like 3 months ago but it's not really out of the ordinary that both HoloEN and NijiEN prioritize primetime weekend evenings. NijiEN's debuts are always on the weekends and HoloMyth always schedule big streams on the weekend to maximize viewers.

Sure the Ame and Gura shit might actually be malicious numberfagging but the large collabs are pretty normal.

>>14875572
">Reschedule Gura meme review at the same time of nijimale debut
Nothing personnel nijibros"

Literal, Holo cope. I don't know how else to spell out a bait thread to you anon, that was created by a 4chan Hololive fan.

>>14875572
nta but no, i won't read the thread

>>14875949
It's to bait nijis and they responded, proving my point.

>>14874677
People can't accept that audience overlap is a thing because they think the audience is only idol fags and can only have one person they watch. It's like saying xqc and shroud don't share a significant overlap cause xqc is a loud faggot and shroud is a quiet faggot and cause they don't talk to each other all the time if at all.

>>14874921
Anon do you know what FOMO is? Or better yet, do you know why they stream instead of just making hour long videos of their playthroughs of games?

>>14876092
They can't accept that because they have built up this image that nijisanji is the "cultured choice enjoyed only by the most cultured of viewers" as compared to the "pleb low grade food of hololive" and the idea that nijisanji fans are also Hololive fans shatters their worldview. Just look at how much the nijiEN thread seethes whenever Pomu brings up a holo.

>>14875203
If other company fan praising their own vtuber trigger you so much, you must have some kind of mental illness

>>14869073
Pretty sure fish tank was announce before the first nijisanji en announcement. I remembered posting about how stupid they were to pick that time to go against ame and gura.

>>14876798
IIRC Fish Tank was announced before it, but only scheduled after. Although it also shared a timeslot with Coco's meme review, and those always got a shit ton of views and happened at the same timeslot every week, so it was a bad choice of time either way.

>>14865541
Gura-chan LOVE YOU

>>14865541
I like to imagine there are a Cover execs in boardroom talking about how they're going to crush NijiEN.
Some of them probably post here.
They might even post in the numbers thread.
They might even be antis for some of their own idols.

>>14876873
Yeah now I remember, they were also going against coco’s meme review, nijisanji en duck tagt part up by themself. As for the other event, no comment.

Did you enjoy my handiwork?

>>14865541
Well, I think their audiences do have quite some overlap. Gura is mostly watched by little children, it's possible that their overworked and burnt out single mothers just put that on because they don't know any better.
Meanwhile, the boys attract mostly thirsty females as seen in their comment sections and the demographic that's most fond of this kind of faggots is lonely middle-aged women.

>>14875670
Yeah I asked on the numbers thread and it seems like those are normal times for hololive EN to be streaming at. >>14875103
BUT at the same time, while digging around I found out that even the DbD collab was a surprise.
>(It was on 10.9, not there on the schedule)
That means there was only one stream that wasn't changed or a Surprise. That was Fish Tank... that was only scheduled after nijisanji made tweet about the debut.
Pretty sus.
But I suppose nothing concrete.

>>14867821
> New chuuba provides same content as existing one.
> 90% of the audience chooses the better chuuba.
> New chuuba provides different content than existing chuuba.
> Audience that needs this content watch the new chuuba

You're retarded if you think there's any overlap between NijiEN MALE VTubers and Gura's audience

>>14877152

>>14865872
>>No major event during Ethyria
I recall it was a hard Minecraft week

>>14877093
Horoks i kneel

>>14867188
Are you new to Vtubers or are you just an EOP???

>>14871032
People can watch VODs man

>>14870896
Its not being an insecure petty bitch, most women just find it creepy. I’m sure Gura is a great streamer and I don’t hate her, but I cannot watch her because of her model

>>14874677
There isn't much overlap between Hololive fans and male vtubers, otherwise Stars would be bigger

>>14865541
Based Gura. Wasn’t there also a Gurame collab when the first gen girls debuted?

>>14881132
That sounds just like what an insecure petty bitch would say

This thread is pretty clear evidence that all Nijisanji fans are SEAmonkeys whose computers will melt if they try to open two livestream tabs at the same time. Or even worse, they're all phoneposters.

>>14871032
Then no one should stream at all since vtubers are debuting all the time.

Guys I recently watched the Legend of Polka episodes with Himawari and Haachamas birthday stream with hoshikawa it was really fun

>>14865541
Fuck Cover for treating Gura like this

>>14882331
The empress takes no prisoners

>>14867821
>I don't get why this doesn't piss off more people
Do you get angry that a child in Africa died in the last ten minutes?

>>14869414
>Vshoujo of all groups
Different platform. Youtube events don't have much effect on the Twitch audience and vice-versa.

>>14865872
Heh, nothing personnel nijikeks

>Cumbuds
>Nijimales
I'm confused. Where's the overlap?

>>14884856
I mean liking either makes you a faggot so I can see the overlap.

>>14865872
GO RIGHT FOR THE THROAT

>>14865872
And yet Nijisanji still stands. Says a lot about how weak cover's attacks are.

>>14885089
I mean, if you can call that standing, sure.

>>14881132
I can watch loli chuubas just fine but Gura's chat is gross AND underage so I hate watching her.

>>14865872
Nothing personal Nijicuck

>>14885429
What you expect from chumpedo ?

holoEN management is deathly scared of losing any audience to niji, even though they already have a huge overlap in fans
they blocked collabs, don't allow the girls to interact with each other on social media and constantly try to stream over their events
blame omegafag for being petty and autistic about it

>>14885429
Nigger, as a chumbud I know Gura's chat but at what part of it are you looking at? I'm also a lolicon and I mostly look at the UOH spammers if there are any
Actually, the worst part of Gura's chat it's not even the underage viewers, it's the Twitchniggers that you can sometimes spot saying Pog and bringing their retarded culture

>>14868562
Based

>>14865872
Meds

The adds of them children will see during Gura’s stream will bring more attention to them than the debut itself
They should be thankful

>>14869073
>sabotage
Unless the Holos are literally messing with the tech and/or Internet of the debutees, this is not sabotage. To begin with, Gura's audience and the audience that would watch NijiMales is completely different. Also, Gura doing a meme review isn't some grand Holo event, unless you consider every non-gaming/zatsudan stream a Holo does a big event somehow

>>14871676
Behold.

>>14872607
>04:00-03:00
That's a 23 hour slot time-chama.

>>14871650
>It's not like Hololive has any reason to be scared of Nijisanji overtaking them any time soon
And that's how Niji fell behind, by being complacent. Never go into business, please.

>>14884856
i dont get how you anons completely forget that vtubing is the overlap.
if people claim chumbuds are mostly children then most of them wouldnt have a problem with male vtubers if they enjoy them, why do you think theres so many male streamers normally?
children dont think with their dicks like you fags do, a cute girl is a cute girl and a cool guy is a cool guy

>>14886550
What the fuck is that

>>14887232
landwhales but women nonetheless

>>14886871
Pls understando, I am Japanese.
I read right to left.

Lol, the MMO industry does this all the fucking time. Welcome to corporate business.

>>14865541
Is there even much overlap in the homo-wave and the cunny viewers?

>>14877667
Was thinking the same. Absolutely nobody still exclusively watching Hololive were ever tuning into the Luxiem debuts. They're still only watching Hololive because:

A) They prefer the all-female atmosphere for X, Y, and Z reason.
B) They only know of, or choose to only engage with, Hololive.

Nobody who has been looking forward to male EN chuubas, enjoys NijisanjiEN, and/or just has general FOMO of debuts, is going to choose a fucking meme review over the new thing.

>>14865541
is gura actually. thats pretty based desu

>see threads since last year on how chumbuds only watch gura and don't know or care about even the rest of hololive
>suddenly this audience magically morphs into people that would have watched male debuts from another company
can't make this shit up

>>14891489
just because people say it on this board doesn't mean it's true

>>14894351
Just because you claim it isn't true doesn't make it less real

>>14869291
They're good aren't they?

>>14886550
America is a terrifying place.

Crush the competition without mercy, no matter how weak and pathetic they are.
#sigmagrindset
#superchatbillionaire

>>14899397
No matter where the convention it's still going to be a collection of the most visibly repulsive specimens of their population.

>>14867779
inb4 the boys take turns showing this brat who is boss.

>>14901264
Hey Gura you look lonely want to spend some time with us?

>>14899659
The wapanese are too autistic to understand this notion.

>>14901312
According to the chart these guys are tiger level at best so it should be fine.

>>14865541
Brutal

>>14903165
I want to know what manga the Danger Level: God guy is from. This shit is hillarious.

>>14907374
Wolf Guy

Jesus Christ, half of the previous thread is [Deleted]

>>14865541
You love to see it

>>14865541
>The lads are still getting the biggest numbers a NijiEN debut has ever gotten
Just ten more waves and the shart's reign will be over.

>>14927061
they are getting like 2k per wave, so it's really more like 50

>>14865541
>mogged by meme review
Nothing personnel kiddo

>>14865872
If Kronii does something over Nijisanji EN that's a reschedule or guerrilla, then you know it's real.
The minecraft stream tonight was already planned.