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Previously on numbers
>>14839652

>> No.14847550

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.14847653

niji homos update
they lost 2k subs today morning.
Putting them on 16k max on subs
Lower than Ehtyria

>> No.14847704

Why are vshojo events barely doing better than vshojo regular streams?

>> No.14847727

>>14847704
becasue no one cares about them as much

>> No.14847743

>>14847653
Again? Is this a seperate culling from the earlier 2 cuts that happened today? If so, I might be misremembering but isn't this a more aggresive culling than Ethyria who I think lost like 1k per day at most?

>> No.14847752

>>14847704
because twitch is shit for discoverability so them having a big event isn't going to grab many people who aren't already going to watch them

>> No.14847799
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NUMBERROT!

>> No.14847810

>>14847704
They don't have many "reserve viewers", most people who watch them watch them daily so there's not much extra to round up for special stuff.

>> No.14847830

>>14847752
It's a bit disappointing though. What's their Max cap right now for events? 30K?

>> No.14847859

>>14847390
I doubt she will beat gura's first outfit, my money is on the 140k range. If she does however, chumbuds will produce more salt then in the history of salt mining. I honestly don't know what will create a worse /#/, Pekora beating 194k or not.

>> No.14847862

>>14847830
20k, that's what they got for vei's debut where all of them funneled their viewers into one stream.
30k is when Nyanners was plastered on the front page of twitch because of her sponsorship

>> No.14847890

>>14847830
It's in the mid 20s. 30k would be a monumental stream for them, or a raid peak.

>> No.14847989

>>14847859
Beating it, because everyone is already coping and lowballing it

>> No.14848005
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14848005

WATAMAGE NOOOOO

>> No.14848153

>>14847862
>>14847890
That's a bit lower than I thought... Mid 20k is lower than a buffed gura stream. Also, if what this anon said >>14847810 is accurate, I kinda wonder why they haven't introduced their new gen yet to expand the audience a bit more? Yeah, I know they're technically the 2nd biggest EN group in the world but the number's they're pulling aren't exactly unreachable

>> No.14848156

>>14847862
The official front page free views that twitch gives people.

>> No.14848231

>>14847743
same one. yesterday they lost 1.3k today 2k

>> No.14848282
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https://npn.co.jp/article/detail/200018257
Huh so nobody brought up how Kuzuha's little stunt here made the news?

>> No.14848339

>>14848282
oh dear..
is this some sort of tabloid rag or is it something actually reputable?
smells like the first one desu...

>> No.14848349

>>14848153
I'm not sure what the holdup with the new recruits is but Vshoujo is really small. They don't have a bunch of shareholders and investors hovering over them telling them they have to expand and make more profit. Everyone there makes enough money already and adding more people won't put any money in their pocket, since everyone gets 100% of their own monetization. Also there's literally no competition on twitch, the next biggest vtubers are all their orbiters and potential recruits.

>> No.14848363

>>14847989
People were low balling La+'s debut and were ecstatic to be wrong.

>> No.14848435

>>14848339
It's mostly a tabloid rag but it mostly focuses on real life celebrities, so having kuzuha's story pop up there is kind of a big deal

>> No.14848440

>>14848363
If Pekora is capable of beating Gura's 194k, I want her to beat it HARD. go 210k+. Grab that record for 2nd highest and steal it from Niji.

>> No.14848485

>>14848440
Who's 1st?

>> No.14848518

numbersharts will be so pissed when rabbit shits on her illegal silver

>> No.14848540

>>14848485
anonchama...

>> No.14848564

>>14848485
Gura is the highest outfit stream of all time.

>> No.14848653
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>>14848485

>> No.14848701

>>14848282
Ah yes the poor exploited indie forced to buy superchats to advertise herself (actually part of the seventh biggest vtuber group by SCs)

>> No.14848749

>>14848485
Half a year later...she is forgotten.

>> No.14848751

>>14848540
>>14848564
>>14848653
>If Pekora is capable of beating Gura's 194k, I want her to beat it HARD. go 210k+. Grab that record for 2nd highest and steal it from Niji.
What I'm getting from this is that Gura's is 3rd and Nijisanji's is 2nd.

>> No.14848787
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14848787

http://poal.me/ayyvvv

Come on, so many people are midballing this.

>> No.14848820

>>14848701
7th biggest vtuber group by SCs doesn't really say much when half the community can't name 4

>> No.14848854

>>14848751
Yes. That is correct. 2nd is Kosien 2021, 3rd is Gura, 4th is Koshien 2020, and 5th is Lulu's graduation.

>> No.14848868

>>14848820
It's relevant to the narrative of a poor VTuber being forced to pay, though.

>> No.14848908

Is there a way to check how many coco bait threats in recent days anon?
It seems like after male nijis announcement and with it come unicorn baits, there's exponential growth on coco bait threats too. Or am i just imagining things?

>> No.14848964

>>14848787
a little over marine`s is my bet

>> No.14848965

>>14848908
There has been, there's been one made every hour or so now. I think some chink got some freetime over Christmas and is spending their time shitposting on 4chan

>> No.14848977

>>14848282
Basically just tells what the stunt he did was, some criticisms he got and shows which part of the Youtube rules he violated followed up by Kuzuha saying he didn't break any rules.
The article also links to a Hoshikawa controversy where she self-stamped her own stamp cards for a convenient store.

>> No.14849012

>>14848977
>Hoshikawa controversy where she self-stamped her own stamp cards for a convenient store
What?

>> No.14849094

>>14849012
You know those stores where an employee stamps or uses a punch hole card for every visit on your rewards card thing?
The article says Hoshikawa talked about how the store management was lax so she just stamped her card herself but doesn't say if she actually used it for a reward.

>> No.14849097

>>14848908
Coco bait threads are always sort of a background thing but they've been proliferating in the last 2 or so weeks. Maybe it's some holidays in China or people are between semesters in school?

>> No.14849125

>>14848977
>The article also links to a Hoshikawa controversy where she self-stamped her own stamp cards for a convenient store.
kek

>> No.14849127

>>14849012
https://twitter.com/Sara_Hoshikawa/status/1313373859270193152
It was a joke made on stream, antis ran with it, at least, that's what I was able to find on it in a very, very short search.

>> No.14849143

>>14848977
Suck a hundred dicks and no one cares but get a free sub and suddenly you're the antichrist.

>> No.14849169

>>14848908
Evergrande recently collapsed anon.
Lots of Chinese youths are now out of a job and have a lot more free time.

>> No.14849213
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14849213

That viewer retention at insane hours of the night is just incredible

>> No.14849222

>>14849169
For the curious.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58579833
Bad timing on an already bad situation.

>> No.14849246

>>14848787
I think that's frankly a fair prediction, and it's also good that most anons haven't lost their brains to numberrot.

>> No.14849248

>>14848908
Hundreds of millions in Chinese are currently unemployed due to many companies collapsing one after another.
TikTok parent company for example just fired 70-80% of their employees.

>> No.14849323

Why does everyone on this board keep thinking every single Coco baiter is a chink, when it's widely known that any troll would repeatedly repost anything that constantly gets reactions?

>> No.14849356

>>14848965
>>14849097
Is it just usual chink or something else, or even there's some intersection pointing to those baiter is what I'm curious about

>> No.14849391

>>14849222
>>14849248
maybe that's the case, thank you anon

>> No.14849392

>>14849222
>Chinese real-estate
Fools and their money.
>50 billion loses
>not meeting debt payments
People have to be faking suicides at this point.

>>14849246
People have sobered up a lot. A week ago streams under 30k were considered pedestrian.

>> No.14849445

>>14849323
Because they get mad when you call them chinks, whether they are or not.

>> No.14849468

>>14848749
After what she turned into, being forgotten is probably for the best.

>> No.14849510

What happened to Chloe, the so called "Gura Killer"?
She gets less viewers than Kronii now lol

>> No.14849543

>>14849510
Stale bait only work in the catalog anon.

>> No.14849559

>>14849445
It's like getting called a nigger, a faggot, or a niggerfaggot here. Good grief I keep forgetting how thin-skinned the board can be at times.
Like, I'm certain there are SOME chinks around, the fact that we've had people posting sources from bb and had one chink get his shit pushed in by shitposting a few weeks ago since he started to get mad over the shitposts...
Well, regardless, there's a greater-than-normal chance that chinks are lurking around right now.

>> No.14849569

>>14848787
Anon, there's no way she'll beat Gura's record. That happened because it was golden week in Japan and easter weekend in the west so it was perfect for garnering views, nowadays christmas season has activity down for the west across the board so that leaves only the nips, so yeah, Marine's outfit reveal numbers sound about right.

>> No.14849641

>>14849392
>People have to be faking suicides at this point.
F-faking... haha... yeah... faking them suicides...

Chinese women will be huddling up sharing them rich men dicks and hanging onto dear life cause their boyfriends and husbands thinking having a second or third home as a middle class guy is somehow a good investment.

The bachelor villages...

>> No.14849647

>>14849213
If you pay attention to chat you can see the number of english goes up as japanese goes down

>> No.14849667

>>14849445
That kinda just helps them shit up the board even further, though. I'm not surprised if they also try calling other posters chinks just to cause more chaos.
It feels like most posters on this site can't even remember cardinal rule of dealing with trolls anymore: Don't feed the trolls.
Although I do see that since they've evolved to just reply to themselves, since this is an anonymous website, how that can just not be as effective anymore.

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>>14849392
>People have to be faking suicides at this point.
>>14849641
>F-faking... haha... yeah... faking them suicides...
webm related

>> No.14849754

>>14849559
a significant portion of redditors treat this place as a "side hustle" and have zero knowledge or understanding of 4chan culture. They're almost always the ones that will be seething about all the "weird" stuff that this board does, for example this guy : >>14830085

>> No.14849836

>>14849754
What a retarded tourist, deserves a range ban

>> No.14849954

>>14849754
Man, that post reeks so badly or newfag that you can still smell the packaging. That's GOTTA be bait.

>> No.14849963

/#/ - Chinese economics thread

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>>14849510
She gets called the Gura killer because of her theme. Orcas eat sharks.

>> No.14850042

>>14849836
Shitty tourist needs rape correction.
>>14849569
>there's no way La+ can get 167k on a random Friday

>> No.14850056

>>14849569
At least she would be the strongest sankisei then

>> No.14850071
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>> No.14850080

>>14850042
anon if you think the debut of a new gen is on the same levle as a costume reveal you might actually be delusional

>> No.14850099

>>14849667
didn't /pol/ resolve this issue a long time ago?

> self bumps limited to once per 5 mins
> IDs on each thread to prevent samefagging

just these steps would improve the board's quality by at least 200%

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>>14849963

>> No.14850137

>>14850071
https://playboard.co/en/live/top-viewing-all-live-in-worldwide
Fubuki currently 8th place overall.

>> No.14850155

>>14849754
I swear a good part of the shittiness of this board is because much of the population is either redditors or other tourists being desperate to fit in and/or redditors treating this place as a dumping ground for all the stuff that would get them crucified if they said it on reddit/twitter/facebook.

>> No.14850162

>>14850001
>She gets called the Gura killer because of her theme.
You can't possibly believe that's the real reason.

>> No.14850170

>>14850001
Lots of people were calling her Gura killer saying she would beat Gura's record to 1M subs.

>> No.14850198

>>14850162
You can't posibly believe anyone that's not autistic thought she might really compete.

Then again, there are only autists here

>> No.14850210

>>14850170
and those people are retards or pretending to be retarded

>> No.14850211
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14850211

That VSPO thing on Twitcasting earlier still the most viewed stream started today for now.

>> No.14850219

>>14850080
I don't think she'll quite beat Gura but at the same time this isn't just a normal costume reveal, this is a long long delayed first real alt costume for the most watched Hololive member that people have been frothing at the mouth for for over a year now

>> No.14850282

>>14849248
Oh so that's why there's greater than usual amount of seethe over the new chinese FGO servant, I thought they just had more free time during christmas

>> No.14850302

>>14850099
Doesn't really matter in a thread that's going pretty fast.
Also, I saw another anon in a thread earlier say something about IDs only being effective against self-replying and that it didn't help anyone notice that he'd been flip-flopping on positions when replying to different other posts.

>> No.14850333

>>14850282
>seethe over the new chinese FGO servant
Why would there be seething? They didn't like it?

>> No.14850376

>>14850155
>redditors treating this place as a dumping ground for all the stuff that would get them crucified if they said it on reddit/twitter/facebook
That's how this whole site has been since 2016, though.

>> No.14850489

>>14850376
>since 2016
kek, for fuck sake, /b/ got swamped by people posting their fucking facebooks for meetups (which led Moot to create /soc/) all the way back in 2011.
If you think "the cancer that's killing /b/" started in 2016 you can't be much older than that in this site

>> No.14850504

>>14850333
Because he's a villain, and also China has been doing some really weird things to historical figures recently (randomly censoring a bunch of Chinese servants names, for instance) so some of their chinkbots see getting angry at it as an opportunity to earn some social credit points.

>> No.14850510

>>14850137
And this is at night time in Japan.

>> No.14850534

>>14850489
It got way worse since then, though.

>> No.14850569

>>14850504
>China has been doing some really weird things
Did you mean to say FGO instead of China?

>> No.14850574

>>14850333
Yes and Japanese love him

>> No.14850592

>>14850534
>It got way worse since then, though.
It was never good, that's my point. It's a recurring meme, even
>remember when X was good?

>> No.14850608

>>14850510
Doesn't she start streaming in that timeslot to catch both the Japanese audience, and the Western audience later after the Japanese start sleeping?

>> No.14850610

>>14850569
China in general has been going after everyone who portrays Chinese historical figures in a way that the CCP doesn't approve of.

>> No.14850621

>>14850569
I don’t think so. China did started censoring Chinese historical figure name in FGO out of nowhere
Fgo didn’t do anything

>> No.14850630

>>14850302
IDs are mostly to prevent a post from getting too inflated by self replies.
If we had IDs back when the board started, Orcschizo might have sobered up a lot faster, and we might actually have been able to criticize Kiara without just being called eggs (funny as that was at the time, it's a long dead horse now).

The self bump limit will be the most useful tool imo for reducing trash tier split threads from just getting bumped to page 1 every time. Regular anons have figured out how to read IPs but the redditors and tourists (actual containment breakers) would probably wise up pretty quickly when a bait thread's OP keeps bumping it from Page 10.

>> No.14850642

>>14850170
>Lots of people were calling her Gura killer
Fuck off, nijinigger.

>> No.14850709

Anyone got any NUMBERS-related stuff to talk about in the NUMBERS thread?

>> No.14850743

>>14850198
After her first stream? That shit was posted non-stop. Her and La+ were both supposed Gura killers

>> No.14850756

Let us see if Pekora will once again surprise us. That is what she do after all

>> No.14850761

>>14850709
Iroha is 1k subs from passing Fauna, Laplus is 3k from Kronii.

>> No.14850777

>>14850709
Kiara is starting(?) to slightly be above NijiEN numbers consistently

>> No.14850797

>>14850743
>were both supposed
According to the voices in your head, I suppose

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>> No.14850908

>>14850777
What? Kiara has always been above any Nijien, unless you mean them as a whole.

>> No.14850912

>>14850869
I'm shocked LoL still gets regular viewers these days

>> No.14850926

>>14850797
Not him, but that did happen even if it was all done by shitposters. The people in this thread did crown HoloX the numberfag generation and they were doing great until they... kinda didn't? I think they're still doing it right though.

>> No.14850946

>>14850869
The korean chick (and her company) needs some monitoring, they may be mogging NijiEN by now

>> No.14850978

>>14850926
>The people in this thread did crown Ho-
The people in this thread also crowned Ibrahim "the Sultan". It's all "voices in your head" anyway

>> No.14851003

>>14850946
They are. Damn gook brats pretending to be hololive fans to use hololive to gain popularity.

>> No.14851016

>>14850569
No its only censored in the Chinese version, the names and designs are untouched in the Japanese and global versions

>> No.14851060

>>14850926
X stopped numberfagging CCV and subs and moved on to SCs, which is better for them financially, but nowhere near as amusing as huge CCvs and subs are for us, sadly.

>> No.14851100

>>14850709
What's the matter, you a chink or something?

>> No.14851106

>>14851060
SCs are good for engagement and engaged fans buy merch.

>> No.14851126

>>14850908
I always felt like she hung around 5k which clearly put her well above any Niji but now everytime I check recently shes hanging around 3-3.5k

>> No.14851147

>>14851003
Anyone can do it. Their voices are undeniably fitting and cute, likely the main reason particularly the korean gura

>> No.14851174

>>14851147
Is that the same one streaming right now or a different one?

>> No.14851198

>>14851174
oh i didn't zoom in, yes that's her

>> No.14851313

>>14850978
Anon, there's a difference between the larp of some retards labeling their chuubas whatever and the general consensus that the thread had at the time with regards to the actions of the newly debuting group as a whole that to the current day still holds water. Saying that it's somehow "voices in your head" as if it never happened flies in the face of what actually did happen.

>>14851060
I'm not disputing that, and in fact am asserting that they're still numberfagging. Just being clear about that.

>> No.14851332

>>14851147
Holofans are too lenient on leaches. It makes me sicks that so many people can leach from hololive and most holofans just think it's adorable. PEople even think it's cute that their newest wave had some people sing SSS and then laugh it off by not showing it respect.

>> No.14851343

Pekora can’t even hit 30k anymore meanwhile FBK always hit it. Peko couldn’t even hit 26k playing MC the day before her new outfit.

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>>14850946
they released their first single album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOV-E2QdC-M

>> No.14851380

>>14851344
orison or covers?

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>>14850978
nta but there were a fuck ton of "Our generation", "Just like us" or "our girl". All in all, a fuck ton of shit posters, if any of them believed it for real? jikes...

> pic related

>> No.14851446

>>14851380
original

>> No.14851514

>>14851343
Don't make me post the El Shaddai numbers faggot

>> No.14851536

>>14851343
Pekora is reclining. FBK is too powerful and it clearly got to her. Without her numbers, all Pekora has is her cat.

>> No.14851583

So, how low would the numbers have to be for Pekora to have a mehera fit. Only 140k? 100k? What if it was like sub 50k?

>> No.14851586

>>14851514
don't mind him anon, he's clearly another retard falseflagging

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>>14851536
Okay I warned you, I like friend so I didn't want to do this to her but you made me

>> No.14851659

>>14851603
That is drowned in the sea of 30k+ fishing streams

>> No.14851686

>>14851313
>the general consensus that the thread had
This is exactly what I am calling "the voices in your head". There is no general consensus, this is an anonymous cantonese cartoon imageboard where anyone can say whatever idiocy they want and the only recourse to that is to either reply or stay silent and, usually, when people are saying dumb stuff the best response *is* staying silent.

There is no general consensus on anything

>> No.14851712

>>14851332
sorry anon she cute
https://youtu.be/OTkFJyn4mvc?t=191

>> No.14851884

>>14851686
NTA but you're retarded, we call things 'voices in your head' when it's something that only happened inside someone head, in this case people were absolutely calling X the number gen, or the new golden gen, or sankisei but better, or /#/ gen, it happened so it can't possible be a 'voice in the head' dumbass.

>> No.14851940

>>14851603
She gets that yet is still blowing Pekora the fuck out this month. Says more about the rabbit than it does FBK.

>> No.14851977

>>14851884
Anon, think deeply about it: despite you thinking you are "reading" this all you are hearing is the voice in your head that you attribute to my person.

I am literally a voice in your head and now
>you are hearing it in kermit the frog voice

>> No.14852001

>>14851686
>being combative while disputing matters of facts (what happened or not)
>contrarianism for its own sake
>nihilism
Anon, you may be going schizo...

>> No.14852018

So this thread is about gaslighting and memoryholing Chloe being called Gura killer and holoX being called the numbers gen?

>> No.14852050

Pokémon gave Pekora her highest view number in a normal stream yet it killed her channel. I’ll be surprised if she beats Marine’s outfit reveal

>> No.14852058

>Hololive > Vspo > Nijisanji
>HoloEN > Vshojo > NijiEN
>HoloID > Maha5 > NijiID
>HoloEN (KR) > Isegye Idol > NijiKR
is there any hope for the Nijisanji brand?

>> No.14852067

>>14852018
because they were wrong, she wasn't going for the gura spot, she was going for the rushia/lamy one

>> No.14852208

Really depressing seeing Pekora and Miko recline so badly this month. Also kind of scary seeing how quickly too dogs can fade.

>> No.14852294

ITT:
>Anons still forget that something like 1/3 of the planet's population celebrates Christmas (or some form of holiday variant of it) and that large swathes of the potential audience is likely out spending time with their friends/family.
>Anons also forget that the winter months are among the lowest activity months for Hololive's audience.

>> No.14852306

>>14852018
>>14852067
T. Samefagging chldfucker threadreader
X is still numberfagging and Chloe still the biggest threat for Gura.
But this board already moved on since X is JOP ESL and what this board want is an EN gura killer since when it comes to CCV, JP holos and nijis mog Gura hard on a daily basis.

>> No.14852316

>>14852208
People are just certain that they'll bounce back but will they? I don't think so. This industry is so volatile.

>> No.14852335

been away due to holidays and come back to NijiEN males, how are they looking so far in predictions or is a corpo male group too much unknown waters

>> No.14852379
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14852379

>>14852208
>>14852316
Meds

>> No.14852387
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>>14852306
take your meds anon

>> No.14852409
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14852409

>>14848485
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-watched-v-tuber-channels-in-worldwide-total

>> No.14852427

>>14852335
Currently trailing behind Ethyria after getting the Susan Double Special Deluxe

>> No.14852463

>>14852208
Reddit Duck fan I take it? Pekora and Miko have been #1 and #2 in hours watched every month for basically the entire year. It just so happens that both of them decided to take it easy this month and are streaming less.

>> No.14852468

>>14852427
I wonder if that anon will continue his fantasy that "posting videos before debut avoid culls".

>> No.14852474

>14852387
(You)

>> No.14852479

>>14852427
Post their numbers, I wanna laugh.

>> No.14852480

>>14852335
Low on subs, high on twitter interactions. Really high on views and likes. Too many unkowns. If we go by twitter interactions 40k is where the debuts will be. If we go by subs they're gonna be in the 10k-13k range.

>> No.14852498

>>14852335
we have already male vtubers, like Zentreya

>> No.14852514

>>14852316
While FBK will obviously recline without Pokémon, I don’t see anyway for Pekora to regain what she’s lost. She’s tried with the burger eating stream, card opening, and even shiny collecting, but her numbers were always down significantly from the previous stream of that type and beaten by FBK still. Now 25k with 1 block? I can only see her continuing to recline, especially since she will be doing the same recordings and lessons the rest of the month

>> No.14852522

>>14852480
kinda reminds me of reddit with holostars, they would get threads with thousands of upvotes and alot of comments on the Hololive reddit but then their streams would be like 300 viewers

>> No.14852523

>>14852498
And Artemis.

>> No.14852529

>>14852474
why would you deprive me of a (you) like this you bitch

>> No.14852539

>>14852335
Still too early too call I think. Lowest subbed group currently due to culls but even prior to that they were only slightly below Lazulight which can mean 1 of 2 things.
>people are on a sit and wait approach and they might start subbing more after debut
>NijiEn stagnated, or worse a good chunk of their audience isn't interested in male VTubers (at least in the west)

>> No.14852544

>>14852409
Why is Mori not on that list?

>> No.14852666

>>14852539
well looking at what others said im expecting a fat debut into massive recline to under the girls unless of course some of them are actually entertaining, itll be a nice wait and see until then.

>> No.14852672

>>14852544
>Why is Mori not on that list?
some reason she on the Entertainment and Music category

>> No.14852708

Another dumb poll about wave 4. Please be honest.
http://poal.me/9uk7br

I think they're gonna be about the same as always but a bit of a bump from brand new tourists.

>> No.14852798

>>14852544
She isn't in Playboard's vtuber category for some reason, neither is Chloe, Iroha or a bunch of Nijis. There's also a bunch of streamers without an avatar that are included.

>> No.14852839

>>14852468
At this point, you'd best call him a retard and move on. From what I can tell, the best strategy is to simply go for the "Holo Hot Drop", debut a frontman to take the brunt of the sub cull while turning it into a sub campaign of sorts. Waiting too long clearly fucks with your potential audience way too much to be worth the time.

>> No.14852858

What’s the monthly chart look like? How bad is FBKING dominating the rest?

>> No.14852871

>>14852294
Holocope

>> No.14853003

>>14852294
>something like 1/3 of the planet's population celebrates Christmas (or some form of holiday variant of it)
But not the Japanese, well outside of going on Christmas Eve dates and eating KFC. Yes they celebrate the Gregorian New Year but that's not for another two weeks and very few people will have travelled to family already

>> No.14853326

recommend numberfag books

>> No.14853381
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>>14852858
>What’s the monthly chart look like? How bad is FBKING dominating the rest?
Not by much?

Here is the ranking till the 18th, with the "Ayame rule" putting only streams with 4 or more streams this month in the list.
She's streaming tomorrow to make it a cool 5 tho, as she will be at 4 and that will likely knock Toya and Aqua out as well.

Ten things about the top 50

1) Fubuki is at #1 with 33932, Pekora at #2 with 32007, both being the only ones above 30k.
2) Toya the leads Niji side while Kuzuha hangs at the Top 10 by the "Ayame rule" margin
3) Lize is still the highest ranked Niji girl
4) Aqua leads Mito by 15 CCV
5) Both Kronii and Mumei really shot up this month, both being ahead of Calli and the rest of Myth (except Gura)
6) Yashiro seems to be having a strong month
7) Ibrahim on the other direction, seems to be reclining heavily
8) 5k STILL doesn't put one in the Top 50 but seems to be a very consistent line (only 2 missing from teh Top 50 with more than 5k median CCV)
9) There are 31 streamers over 10k median so far this month

And the punchline
10) Lamy is having a wonderful month and it went unnoticed? She was usually in the 8k range, where did she find this 11k?

>> No.14853413

>>14852294
fall-winter is a buff month for hololive wtf u on about??

>> No.14853424
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>>14853381
Here is how strong Fubuki is this month
>pic related
That's all her streams plus where her median falls.

>> No.14853432

>>14853381
Sorry I meant the hours watched one

>> No.14853524

>>14853381
>reclining
His average before MC castle was sub 10k was it not.

>> No.14853551

So can somebody give me TRD on why Fubuki’s shiny hunt stream has become such a viral hit? Is she the only JP who’s streamed a shiny hunt?

>> No.14853575
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>>14853381
Even Shion is in the 20k class now, what a crazy month.

>> No.14853685

>>14853551
Japanese gacha autismo requires their attention for when she does get it. It's not as if she isn't being entertaining while at it (you couldn't go through so many months of suffering kino with such an audience if you weren't good at it).

>> No.14853688

>>14853381
Toya is going to recline next week

>> No.14853687
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14853687

>>14853381
>10) Lamy is having a wonderful month and it went unnoticed? She was usually in the 8k range, where did she find this 11k?
Here is some more on that, here is all of her streams for December so far.

People correctly focused on Fubuki getting HUGE numbers with it but Lamy is taking full advantage of the buff as well.

>> No.14853765

>>14853381
I am always amused when actual numbers get posted and the narratives flying around are shown to be retarded as usual.

>> No.14853779

>>14852058
only in your mind vspo is bigger than nijisanji

>> No.14853806

>>14853432
Including today
Fubuki: 2.75 million
Pekora: 1.36 million
Chloe: 1.2 million
Gura: 0.43 million

I don't track the rest. Or well rest of HoloX but they are between 0.5-0.9 million. Subaru might have a decent number, haven't tracked her so I don't know.

>> No.14853815

>>14853688
That number is boosted by Mario Kart announcements. But he has his Christmas offpako with Peanuts-kun as well.

>> No.14853831
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14853831

>>14853687
And here is Pekora. She's streaming a whole lot less this month but, even then, her numbers are in line with her past month and on a high point for her year

>> No.14853950

>>14853685
I’m more specifically asking if any other JP has also tried a shiny hunt (and if not, why the hell not) or if there’s just something engaging about hers in particular, and if so, what?

>> No.14853956

>>14853815
He is participating in the niji marika event, in the qualifier G league. and if he made it to the main event thats another pov.

>> No.14853996

>>14853956
Yeah and that won't give him numbers, he fucking sucks. The other thing is a yearly event.

>> No.14854059
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>>14853432
>>14853806
Here is what I have, seems to be in line with anon's numbers.

>> No.14854074

>>14853950
Flare and Peko. Neither got anything like Fubuki. Peko even did it while Fubuki was doing it and FBK was like 15k viewers over Pekora

>> No.14854118

>>14853806
>>14854059
Worth noting on this, Fbk is well on pace to beat pekora's highest watch hours month this year, 3.5 million. After the same number of days Pekora had 1.78 million.
If Fbk continues fishing in Pokemon and having shit luck she'll beat that easily.

>> No.14854143

>>14853381
Jesus, Bae is in the dumbester, what happened? Didn't she have a bunch of really successful collabs?

>> No.14854242

I know is little bit to soon but what kind of numbers do we expect for the Hololive Mario Kart Tournament

>> No.14854247
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14854247

>>14854059
>>14854118
Yeah, she's putting a shitton of hours with a very high audience as well. Here is the same table, but with hours streamed and mean average CCV as well.

>> No.14854263

>>14853381
Mio at 12k, was the bag always this strong?

>> No.14854283

>>14854143
i think she just filters people too hard, i gave her a fair shot and couldnt handle her loud = entertaining during games and she does mostly zatsus but also doesnt have a voice thats easy on the ears for me so i dropped her. I dont know if she still does it but she also used to do live translate from EN to JP aswell mid stream which might further filter some.

>> No.14854290 [SPOILER] 

>>14854242
Not anything like last time. Even the sports fest was down year over year, Pekora especially.

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14854358

>>14854247
Here is them, sorted by mean
>Ayame...
There is a reason the "Ayame rule" is used for the "real" monthly tables

>> No.14854360

>>14854074
So what’s the secret ingredient then? Why is FBK’s shiny hunt attracting so much more attention than Pek’s did?

>> No.14854431

>>14854283
>I dont know if she still does it but she also used to do live translate from EN to JP aswell mid stream which might further filter some.
She is doing it less nowadays, but it's still enough to filter me.

>> No.14854454
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>>14854358
And here it is, sorted by hours streamed. Fubuki must really be having fun because she put more hours than even Watame (usually the queen of this metric) and even the newcomers with their crazy long schedules couldn't touch her

Also
>Aruran...
I suppose he must LOVE streaming because he has the highest number of streams for the lowest audience

>> No.14854483

>>14854143
Aussie accent is a huge debuff for girls + Bae is simply not that interesting of a person.

>> No.14854501

>>14854247
It's all the pokemon streams, not to shit on the effort, but those streams account for 2.57 million.
Being first at it, being able to be consistent at it and having good retention has been a winning concept. Not that friend cares, she just wants that shiny.

>> No.14854500

>>14854483
She was doing better in the last months though.

>> No.14854554
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14854554

>>14854360
>Why is FBK’s shiny hunt attracting so much more attention than Pek’s did?
Fubuki is entertaining for a long period of low intensity activity while Pekora thrives on the unexpected and the "risk all lose all" moments.

>> No.14854564

>>14854454
Damn Lui, she is obviously trying hard but it just doesn't work for her for some reason

>> No.14854584

>>14854360
First to the market and really wanting that magikarp.. Pekora's stream off it was more of a "I want to try it and hope I get lucky" thing.

>> No.14854614

>>14854360
I imagine a lot of people tune in and fall asleep to it since FBKing is chill and speaks softly. She can also talk about all kinds of movies, tv shows, and manga. Pekora can’t, plus is loud and annoying and overreacts.

>> No.14854628

>>14853381
how many times would ayame have to stream in a month to drop the ayame rule and just count as a normal streamer

how many people is the Ayame rule excluding, anyway?

>> No.14854767

>>14854360
Mori got a super consistent 10k views for nearly 12 hours on her shiny hunting stream, it's nowhere near what Fubuki gets, but there obviously a demand for mindless shiny hunting.

>> No.14854789
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14854789

>>14854564
Is she? She's putting the hours but, like Wave 3 from NijiEN, she's leaning too hard on talking streams and that doesn't generate enough interest to lift her audience size

Pic related has all her streams, I can't think of a single iconic moment from her (or from Koyori likewise) that would have captured the attention of the rest of the box

>> No.14854795

>>14854614
thats what ive been using it for, i toss that shit on and crash out

>> No.14854819

>>14853381
Well, I expected less median peak for Suisei. Either way, GO SUISEI

>> No.14854824

>>14854614
I also doubt Pekora would ever do it the same way that Fubuki does it. FBK has 17/26 streams this month doing the shiny fishing. She would never only stream a challenge or endurance thing like this, she would have to multi stream and do different games. She did exactly that when she did the DQ5 get all the friends, but then she wasn't busy doing idol reps and recordings.
She wont stream only such a challenge since she probably thinks it will be a bad streaming experience in the long run for nousagi.

>> No.14854848

>>14854360
Besides what others have said Magikarp is an excellent choice for a shiny hunt since Magikarp is already a meme pokemon, requires little input of buttons but also is hard to get since there isn't chain hunting like with pokemon that appear on grass and finally add Japan love for fishing and you have a great formula.

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>>14854628
>how many times would ayame have to stream in a month to drop the ayame rule and just count as a normal streamer
Five streams is the cap for the monthly chart, "Ayame rule" is only valid for the partials during the month.

If Ayame streams five times she takes the month, like she did in, IIRC, September

>how many people is the Ayame rule excluding, anyway?
Here is the list.

>> No.14854997

>>14853381
>hololive is only 36 of the top 50
We've reclined bros. Our domination is over. Maybe we should start taking estrogen and watch NijiEN.

>> No.14855046

Seems like Mumei and Kronii playing Micra and having a sort of a war between them is the recipe for their incline
See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-HDDZLM24
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSNtg6Y28zo

>> No.14855061

>>14853806
Will Shirakami make it into the top 5 female streamers for stream hachet?

>> No.14855111

>>14855046
anything Kronii is a buff, the thing is that she doesn't stream consistently and it wears off

>> No.14855137
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HOLY SHIT! Fubuki is ahead of Gura in subs growth for the week and tying last 30 days.

>> No.14855155

>>14855111
and then recovering it soon afterwards

>> No.14855166

>>14855046
Remember the Fauna and Kronii war? Hopefully Kronii learned her lesson and Mumei is less of a dumbass than Fauna.

>> No.14855168

>>14855061
For this month? Yes, unless some extreme outsiders show up.
For the quarter? Probably not.
For the year. No.

>> No.14855202

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJtvyUni-eQ
>300 waiting
Sana...

>> No.14855240

>>14855166
>Remember the Fauna and Kronii war? Hopefully Kronii learned her lesson and Mumei is less of a dumbass than Fauna.
I don't. What happened?

Kronii gives me "mean girls" bully vibe (and I love her and she's my favorite from the EN side, likely because of that)

>> No.14855261

>>14855202
Shill stream? I guess it's time for Selen to surpass Sana or rather, Sana to fall below Selen.

>> No.14855265

>>14854767
You know, with Mori’s zatsuden chops having taken a huge step forward in s2 and the fact that she’s tackling the even more retarded shiny challenge of going after a legendary, I have a feeling she’s accidentally sitting on gold with that series. Her CCV reached 14k at multiple times in just her first stream.

>> No.14855283

im not gonna link all the replies. Any anon who gives/gave those retarded titles to any chuuba in this thread is a retard himself. And if you took them seriously youre a retard as well.

>> No.14855289

Was checking the Koyori SC reading stream and WTF, her right is so good I thought she was using one of those 3D at home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1uW7NSexAI

>> No.14855355

>>14855137
Also top for video views. Her sub growth is inclining rapidly and she very well may overtake Pekora before the year ends

>> No.14855359

>>14855289
her right what

>> No.14855454

>>14855240
>I don't. What happened?
Exactly. After a extremely hype moment (Where Fauna had SCs turned off and probably lost like 5k), the two girls were at war, only for them to ignore it for weeks until Fauna decided to surrender because she didn't want to spend time on the server and would rather do speedruns, then weeks after that Kronii saw the surrender and that's about it. It's pretty much the biggest waste of opportunity/content I've ever seen, I don't even know how the fuck could they fuck it up so much. We could have had neighbors wars En edition, instead got nothing.

>> No.14855457

>>14855359
I think the dude is talking about her model's rigging.

>> No.14855461

>>14855289
>>14855359
Her *rig*`, wtf, I automatically type "right" when trying to type rig and almost did again

>> No.14855475
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14855475

>>14855240
she got mind broken by fauna because she got killed by her, fauna loged out but then quickly logged in and typed "gg btw kronii" then left, the events afterwards gave birth to "jokeronii"

>> No.14855485

>>14855355
At this pace? Yes, she probably will. It all hinges on that the fish keeps being red.

>> No.14855504

>>14854824
Not that difference from fbk who also still streamed other games. The main point is that pokemon perm is limited, so fbk is racing against time and she said she want to finish hall of fame with her shiny team which look impossible

>> No.14855522

>>14855454
Council are numbers retards.

>> No.14855534
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14855534

Here is tommorrow scheduled streams so far. Two things

1) No ID overlapping Pekora yet. I wonder if they'll be bold enough to get into the numbersrabbit shitlist
2) Any chance Mel 3D becomes Pekora waiting room for the medals?

>> No.14855573

>>14855475
I saw that part live, what I missed was the follow up and now I know why: what >>14855454 said.

>> No.14855584

>>14855475
Fauna didn't kill, a phantom killed her because she is a dumbass.

>> No.14855614

>>14855534
I wonder why Pekora allows them to do this event before hers. It's gonna cause people to not watch hers.

>> No.14855653

>>14855504
It's true that Fubuki has a time limit to try to catch it on stream. Pekora's DQ5 stretched over months, but she also double or triple streamed most of the days when she also did DQ5 streams. Fubuki had double streamed, but some days those double streams are Pokemon Shiny fishing.

>> No.14855675

>>14855522
Full House with the fax and don't even need to print it. I'm starting to think that HoloEN needs a kayfabe producer/director in the same way that WWE and AEW have just so that they can watch and pick up on potential story lines for the future and coach their chuubas into possible major buff stories.

>> No.14855677

>>14855534
>hollow knight
Kronii must have seen her numbers going up and decided to nerf them again

>> No.14855705

14855614
Bait or just a little behind? Hard to tell with this one...

>> No.14855710

>>14855675
I thought that was the troon's job.

>> No.14855750

>>14855677
hope you also like the future return of hades because it sure as hell is coming back after kronii managed to recover her save file

>> No.14855777

>>14855710
Isn't he in charge of lore shit and producing IRyS music? Does he even watch Hololive beyond the collabs and sponsored content?

>> No.14855854

>>14855504
It's way different. Not saying it's a bad thing one way or the other but Pekora would never only play the same game as much as Fubuki has been doing because she knows a lot of Nousagi wouldn't like it.

>> No.14855880

>>14855522
They are retarded period. Seriously, what happened is a streamer dream for content, non retarded streamers would murder for something like that. It was perfect for a long running series, it could cool down for a while and star over again, it could also easily include the other EN girls as allies and even the jps and ids, we could have had Fauna and Kronii desperately trying to recruit Pekora, we could have had everyone picking sides and going at war, instead we got Fauna surrending and giving diamonds to Kronii because she would rather do dumb speedruns that go nowhere

>> No.14855927

>>14855777
no he doesnt, instead he prefers to larp on twitter and give false hope for permissions to some anons

>> No.14855965

>>14855927
He is credited on Irys's shit though.

>> No.14856007

>>14855965
im mostly refering to the latter part of that post, my bad for not being specific

>> No.14856023

Imagine if it was Pekora rather than Noel that had gotten her new outfit last year after Miko’s return concert. Could have probably been 200k+ Instead she gets to go behind fucking Mel of all people.

>> No.14856046

>>14855705
Viewer fatigue.

>> No.14856112
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14856112

Here is one more table for the night
> median of peak CCV, for 2021 so far

Here are ten comments about it

1) 23 out of the 55 girls are above 10k for the year
2) Kronii outranks every EN but Gura
3) Some HoloX may beat Ayame number of streams before the end of the year
4) Sana is still over 5k for the year
5) Moona already reach the level of the lowest JP and has potential to climb a couple of positions
6) Astel already reach the level of the lowest IDs (3 of them even) and has potential to climb a couple of positions
7) Roberu surely is close enough from Anya to be sniffing her perfumed neck
8) I will *never* understand WTF is Aruran doing to have 561 streams in the year so far.
9) Botan and Kanata surely are working hard and consistently.

And the punchline
10) Pekora sits alone in the throne and still has a 30k median even for the whole year.
That's something that can't be explained in words, the numbers speak for themselves

>> No.14856325

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1472335008786493443
Is she going to overlap niji's debuts now?

>> No.14856335

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1472335008786493443
Meme review delayed to tomorrow

>> No.14856379

>>14856112
>I will *never* understand WTF is Aruran doing to have 561 streams in the year so far.
I think he is the kind of guy that works hard, but not smart.

>> No.14856427

>>14856112
I don't get how Kanata's average and median be so off when there are 320 data points.

>> No.14856436

>>14853381
Is Ame the EN Matsuri?
Earlier this year this year she was 2nd in EN in CCV, Among most hours streamed. Fast forward to now, 2nd lowest CCV in all of EN, Doesnt play any buff games, Hardly ever plays FPS, Among the lowest in SC, hardly streams. She's completely tanked

>> No.14856443

>>14856325
yes

>> No.14856452

>>14856325
>>14856335
Every time kek.

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14856500

>>14856112
anon if you`re too scared to say it ill do it for you
median = 60k something

>> No.14856519

>>14856325
>>14856335
The shark must really hate us. Why is she like this? She smell competition she awakens but when she has the button she doesn't push it. I hope she fucking graduates that little...

>> No.14856540

>>14856379
Yea and clearly loves his work... It's a mental amount of streams.

>> No.14856605

>>14856325
based if she does.

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14856622

>>14856325
>>14856335
Based gawr gura

>> No.14856654

>>14856335
She's gonna overlap with the Nijimales? Hahahahhah

>> No.14856666

>>14856436
>EN Matsuri
Matsuri median for the second semester of 2020 was 5644. AFAIK she was never a high audience streamer, just had a HUGE name recognition.

Ame was also not #2 in 2020, her median was 18080, trailing Ina, with a 18769 median.

>> No.14856679

>>14856500
She's in the list anon..

>> No.14856700

>>14856443
Lmao, based Shark.

>> No.14856720
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>>14856500
Only for December (so far), 59998

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>>14856325
oopsie

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>>14856679
yeah i replied to the wrong list, should be this one >>14853381

>> No.14856821

>>14856654
NijiMales start a 7EST, Shark is starting at 8EST.
Tell Gura to move it to 7EST holo sisters!

>> No.14856946

>>14856821
I thought mumei going for 7EST?

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>>14856821
way ahead of you

>> No.14856998

So only Mumei's Karaoke and Gura's meme review.
If i was Omega,
>I'll have Kronii play Minecraft (the sick IRys and Bae in VC)
>Fishtank after Gura's Meme Review

>> No.14857022

>>14855137
Is this the first time this happens with a non-debutant holo?

>> No.14857042

>>14856818
I posted her in the reject list at >>14854871

>> No.14857077

>>14857042
looks like you have too many lists

>> No.14857078
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14857078

You know, If you were to only read these threads, you would assume that Kiara numbers are some sort of groundbreaking failure and HoloJP doesn’t have its fair share of shitters. I only recently learned that this minx would beg for Kiara numbers, who are some other essential HoloJP shitters?

>> No.14857085

>>14855137
Fubuking!! Please don't overtake Rabbit!!
It's the only thing that matters to her

>> No.14857104

>>14857022
Haachama caught up with her in the schizolore arc but I don't know if she actually passed her.

Both shows that Gen 1 has a hidden potential just beneath the surface

>> No.14857174

>>14857078
>I only recently learned that t-
That's because you're dumb, lists like >>14853381 and >>14856112 get posted pretty much every week for all sorts of comparison.

There is a big difference between Mel and Kiara tho.
>Mel isn't even trying

>> No.14857211

>>14857042
Thanks you very much for your work, chartanon. I still ask you to change the holo's color from red to blue for obvious reasons.

>> No.14857219

>>14855166
>>14855454
In terms of Mumei’s Minecraft content, pushing Kronii’s buttons is almost as big a priority as picking berries, breeding foxes, and killing things. She’s done it before, and she’ll keep doing shit even if there isn’t an actual war.
>>14855522
Mumei at least seems to have an instinctive understanding of numbers, it’s just been held back by her lack of confidence and other personal hangups.
>>14855710
Omega is both useless and out of the picture.
>>14856325
Wouldn’t be a proper NijiEN debut otherwise.

>> No.14857269

>>14857078
Mel mogged Kuzuha, that's all that matter.

>> No.14857287

>>14857211
I'll do that first thing in 2022. I'll keep the current color scheme for consistence sake

>> No.14857305

>>14857022
Last time it happened was Coco during the graduation month.

>> No.14857314

>>14857269
Moona mogged Kuzuha as well.

>> No.14857318

>>14857287
Thank you very much.

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>>14857085
not looking good for pekora

>> No.14857448

>>14857314
Mel mogged Kuzuha on a very hyped day, plus that was when his back was still whole. Moona beat Kuzuha after he broke his back thanks to all the deadweights he carried for months.

>> No.14857473

>Gura overlapping the male debuts.

Omega! I kneel!

>> No.14857502

>>14857078
kiara never mog kuzuha so.. not even comparable to Meru sama

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>>14857473
KNEEL PEASANTS!
>why do you all hate Omega again?
Clearly making the best scheduling decisions!

>HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!

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14857518

HoloX can already collab with senpais?
I thought the Collab Ban lasts for a month? Laplus you should've get you collab virginity penetrated by Pekora instead of Towa

>> No.14857517

>>14857078
>Mel
Mind breaks Kuzuhafag and Kuzuha hasn't been the same since the slip.
She's gonna boost Pekora's outift reveal tonight with her and Choco's live.
Was the homerun pick that was meant to put hololive on the map.
Indirectly the reason Marine, La+, and Lui got picked.
Held the company in her hands and decided not to kill it.

Myth as a whole kneels to Mel.

>> No.14857540

>>14856325
>>14856335
>>14847494
NEVER LET WATAMAGE TAKE THE LAST SPOT ON EVERY THREAD

TOO POWERFUL

>> No.14857551

>>14857448
Kuzuha recline started the moment he turned into a girl. Manjisanji meme is real, can't make this shit up.
>>14857473
>Nijimales debut on Sunday to avoid Gura
>Gura moves her meme review
Wtf, why is Omega like this?

>> No.14857558

>>14856998
Anons were predicting that the NijiEN male wave debut would take about two hours. HoloEN’s apex predators have pretty much gone straight for the jugular.

>> No.14857573

>>14857518
Maybe 23 is "one month" after debut, give or take.

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>>14857514
Omegachad we don't deserve you

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numbers

>> No.14857663

>>14857473
>>14857514
Omega is on hiatus. This one’s entirely on the talents.

>> No.14857674

>>14857518
UOOOOOOH KUSOGAKI COLLAB

>> No.14857686

>>14857551
>Wtf, why is Omega like this?
His only redeeming quality is that he's a spiteful bitch.

>> No.14857705

>>14857614
>>14857514
>>14857473
Kneeling to Omega is cringe.

This troon is so clearly scared of NijiEN.

>> No.14857744

>>14857078
This is bait and I shouldn't but
Mel
>Had to take a long ass break due to stalker
>Doesn't stream that often
>Like Noel, Hololive is just a fun hobby for her
Just accept that Kiara is shit

>> No.14857770

>>14857663
Gura wouldn't do something like this, she isn't a numberfag.

>> No.14857776

>>14857518
gen 6 special priviledge

>> No.14857798

>>14857770
Then Watamage clearly made Gura sick so she had to move her stream.

>> No.14857819

>>14857518
11 streams plus guerillas, she's not letting up I fucking kneel
Collab with Shion is going to break my dick

>> No.14857825

>>14857659
holy shit sana, those are some ID numbers

>> No.14857839

>>14857518
Already on the 22nd, Towa first and then Shion. Surprised Gen5 doesn't have first collab though. Have the others posted their schedule?

>> No.14857847

>>14857674
Imagine a Shion/Laplace/Gura collab. Uoooh's dicks would break.

>> No.14857864

>>14857705
whatever makes you happy tranny

>> No.14857900

>>14857864
Imagine siding with the tranny. Couldn't be me.

>> No.14857910

>>14857847
Soon in the next minecraft season

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someone save her pls...

>> No.14857969

>>14857900
imagine seething for an overlap

>> No.14858007

>>14857967
Go Sana Go! Slowly incling baby

>> No.14858011

>>14857967
finana? nah she is doomed

>> No.14858021

>>14857967
There's no need to beg for views Reimu.

>> No.14858024

>>14857770
Gura is MOTIVATED because she doesn’t have to deal with Omega’s bullshit. The shark smells blood in the water.

>> No.14858030

>>14857839
>Surprised Gen5
wamy koyori asmr uoogghh
botan lui hags gathering
iroha shaping polka back to fit body aiiieeeeeeee

>> No.14858066

>>14857967
>500 viewers with hotline miami
graduate reimu already

>> No.14858112

>>14857518
>Towa
>Shion
It's gonna be fps collab shit, isn't it

>> No.14858148

>>14858112
Apex meta coming back

>> No.14858219

>>14858112
Isn't the symbol on the Shion collab a Twitter Space?

>> No.14858233

>>14858112
Be prepared for the valorant arc

>> No.14858244

>>14857967
finana and reimu cant be saved
sana will have some funnel from ina once done.
So she will get 3-4k.

>> No.14858299

So when is the NijiEN4 debut scheduled for, exactly?

>> No.14858305

Is there a numbersfag here who’s ambitious enough to make one of these kinds of videos for Hololive?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p4HDsIUu40U

>> No.14858308

>>14858112
valoran most likely
im more worriedabout the TBD i feel like streaming without a plan isnt that good idea

>> No.14858341

Sana started on the dreaded slot... at least numberfag your shill streams, so embarrassing

>> No.14858352

>>14856325
Gura's hubris will be her downfall and I will laugh as a I through a few pennies for her to pick up from the gutter.

>> No.14858406

>>14858352
You are panicking, type slowly

>> No.14858427

>>14858299
Starting tomorrow afternoon est

>> No.14858442

>>14857967
Selen is now winning right? Lmao.

>> No.14858469

>>14858305
I don't have a link at hand but there's plenty of them already if you look for it
>>14858308
She'll have a plan by the time it rolls around, most likely some crappy mobile game but she'll get good numbers for it

>> No.14858501

>>14858305
https://youtu.be/ETo0ZuwvjFc

>> No.14858506

>>14858427
7 est it seems

>> No.14858554

>>14858352
not sure if esl or just having a mental breakdown

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>>14858352

>> No.14858678

>>14858442
Dont jinx it, you will summon Watamage

>> No.14858682

Btw the homos got culled again
they all are back to 15k max

>> No.14858731

>>14858682
Based Susan.

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>>14856325
Totally a coincidence right, hehe

>> No.14858821

>>14858682
this gen is already cursed

>> No.14858867

>>14858682
So are they beating waves 1, 2, and 3 in subs? Their twitter interactions are really looking good numebrswise but I fear that tons of people will tweet about them and maybe do some fan art but no one will bother to actually consume content.

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>>14858867
>twitter interactions
>consume

>> No.14858928

>>14856325
LMAO

These companies and managers aren't stupid. I don't believe for a second that management didn't call her and tell her to delay the stream until tomorrow so they could overlap with the Niji debuts.

>> No.14858962

>>14858427
>>14858506
>Gura moved her Meme Review to 7pm tomorrow

lmfao, and you people say Myth doesn't numberfag

>> No.14858995

>>14858867
>So are they beating waves 1, 2, and 3 in subs?
no in fact this cull erased almost 24hrs of subs gains.
They arent even going to get 20k before debut at this rate

>> No.14859001

>>14858682
OH NO NO NO NIJISISTERS OUR BOTS

>> No.14859012

>>14858962
Myth management certainly does

>> No.14859025

>>14858867
similar to Holostars with EN engagement on some social media for awhile but I think Luxiem speaking english might help them with retention

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>>14856325
>>14856335

>> No.14859072

>>14859030
I love this Shark so fucking much.

>> No.14859089

Can Nijimales break 20k Debut?

>> No.14859096

>>14858927
That's what I mean. I think there is a non-zero chance for it to go to shit.
>>14858995
So Ankimo is still dabbing on him?

>> No.14859136

Holo going for a double kill?
Pekora killing the Niji mariokart singles qualification and Gura the new debuts. If they can pull it off that is.

>> No.14859143

>>14858995
Hilarious. Lets take a look at Nijisanji's grandiose claims.

Wave 2 had the infamous Gura killer.

Wave 3 was the singing generation so strong that mainstream recording artists were going to take notice and shoot NijiEN to the moon in popularity.

Wave 4 was the gen that was going to change everything and shape the state of EN vtubing for generations to come.

All of them went out with but a whimper. Sad.

>> No.14859147

>>14853687
>Pokemon buff
Strangely enough she does pretty much the same stuff in the game that Botan does but she has been consistently getting better numbers after their respective first streams.

>> No.14859183

>>14859136
>If they can pull it off that is
stop provoking watamage!!!

>> No.14859188

>>14859143
Kek

>> No.14859202

>>14859089
possible if they call up their nip nijisister side. otherwise 13k -17k eop/nijien fanbase (+1k - +10k nijisister tourist)

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interesting poll made by some "news" chuuba

>> No.14859222

>>14859089
Yes, they have to. I've staked my entire /#/ reputation on it.

>> No.14859224

>>14859096
Ankimo has 36.6k.

>> No.14859228

>>14859143
dont forget the wave 0 INdia breaking through the second largest market in the world

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>>14857967

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>>14859222
You have a reputation? In here?

>> No.14859297

>>14854564
to be honest her voice is a filter, and her singing is niche. She has that old woman ring in her voice unlike Mio. It can work with some songs, but otherwise it sounds like a granny trying too hard.

>>14855880
to be fair, i don't think it would have been allowed to go so far afield because of the issue of potential fanbase autism taking it outside the stream.

>>14856325
thank god! I will be able to watch it then! I can watch asamiko news with relief too

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>>14859096
>>14859224
>You shall not pass!

>> No.14859330

>>14859255
>BATTLE OF THE MIDGETS

THE SHILL STREAM WON OF ALL THINGS

OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.14859358

>>14859030
Why are you like this, shark?

>> No.14859372

>>14859255
go sana go
ia ctually like sana vs nijiEN since they are the clsoes in subs.

>> No.14859381

>>14854564
too much superchat reading, probably advised to avoid FPS for now

>> No.14859433

>>14859143
You forgot wave 1 that was supposed to be the hidden dragon that was gonna beat Myth some day

>> No.14859470

>>14858501
Thanks. This really puts in to perspective how untouchable Gura is. No
wonder people want a Gura killer so badly, she makes the numbers unfun.

>> No.14859481

>>14859330
This is why the sponsors are going to HoloEN rather than NijiEN.

NijiEN don't have their Curry Meshi Sponsorship moment yet. They barely sell out their own merch too.

Why is NijiEN such a failure? Even their management thinks so. They don't even have outfits yet.

>> No.14859491

>>14857839
HoloX are the numbers gen, they're not going to collab with gen 5 who won't bring them numbers

>> No.14859527

>>14859255
Someone please save or graduate Sana.

>> No.14859574

>>14859470
Gura killed numberfagging subs.

There's no point anymore in comparing subs. That's why people cope with the dead subs meme instead.

>> No.14859604

>>14859470
>gura
>ambitious
Anon... if she is at least a little bit ambitious, she would've reach 5Msub by now. Gura still hasnt take off her limiter

>> No.14859610

>>14859491
choosing towa is not numberfag move gen5 schizo chan

>> No.14859615

>>14859297
>to be fair, i don't think it would have been allowed to go so far afield because of the issue of potential fanbase autism taking it outside the stream
Dude we had neighbors wars, at very least they could have done the EN version of that.

>> No.14859628

>>14859255
Wait, she's back from her break?
I thought she was still on break for another week.

>> No.14859655

>>14859329
Why the hell does the mascot have that many subs?

Hololive retards really just sub to everything Holo related huh?

They really should check out other livers and diversify their entertainment. There's plenty of livers who are way more entertaining than those Hololive whores.

>> No.14859675

>>14859491
Your argument makes no sense since she's starting with Towa..

>> No.14859680

>>14859574
Gura's subscriber growth and Coco's graduation took the fun out of numberfagging. Now there are no records to shoot for since arguably the three biggest ones are pretty much untouchable.

Gura subscribers
Coco's graduation CCV
Coco's graduation super chats

>> No.14859692

>>14859628
i think she will be out on christmas but she is back this week. Also she is working on someting that hasnt shown yet. Porbably for the chrsitmas collab.

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>>14859481
because one is bigger in the western side and one has no presence in the land of the free especially when most of the sponsors are in that country.

>> No.14859731

>>14859615
yea, between single talents, but bringing in talents to different sides to fight and kill each other? nah

>> No.14859760

>>14859692
i thought christmas collab was going to be minecraft, or are they just building something for xmas?

>> No.14859820

>>14859760
yesterday she was log in to minecraft so it could be a minecraft proyect for it.

>> No.14859866

>>14859610
>>14859675
Towa boosted rpr, she's a boost for anyone playing FPS

>> No.14859885

>>14859655
mogged by ankimo
>mogged by ankimo
mogged by ankimo
>mogged by ankimo

>> No.14859911

>>14859680
>Gura's subs took the fun out numberfagging
Rumao
Gura's subs mean nothing.

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Peko has more people waiting than the tournament lmao

>> No.14859921

>>14859866
Not really, there was a story built behind them among apexfags

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>14859866
>she's a boost for anyone playing FPS

>> No.14859995

>>14859921
Still better than collabing with numbers poison gen 5, the recent 4-man collab on Botan's channel couldn't even break 30k.

>> No.14860047

Why do people constantly root for the failure of NijiEN when their few successes always result in HoloEN pushing themselves to do better again?

>> No.14860083

>>14859915
Pekora has more loyal fans than Niji's infamous main channel tourist army who only show up to the main channel when there's an event and nowhere else.

>> No.14860102

>>14859995
If that is a number poison I wonder what Council is, a reminder that they barely broke 15k (?) when they had a full collab on Fauna's channel.

>> No.14860128

>>14860047
When has that ever happened?

>> No.14860133

>>14860047
i dont think HoloEn has had any success coming out of NijiEn doing "good"
the only one that probably thins about nijiEN is kiara and only with POmu

>> No.14860169

>>14859915
While I don't doubt that Pekora will get bigger numbers the waiting rooms this far out don't mean much. I remember Roboco had double the waiting room for her new costume than Fuwa did for his 3D and we all know what happened there.

>> No.14860192

>>14860047
anon you cant just say that without showing some proof, the only member of holoEN that cared about nijiEN is kiara and that's only with pomu

>> No.14860206

>>14860133
Kiara talks about Pomu on rare occasions but almost never actually says "Nijisanji" or mentions anyone else from that company.

>> No.14860267

>>14859527
Dont worry I'll save her by marrying her and she'll graduate when I get her pregnant

>> No.14860298

Since Pekora’s numbers have been down across the board, I’ve found myself not enjoying her as much. It’s possible it’s tied to her numbers, but I think it’s more that her content has gotten quite bad.

>> No.14860316

>>14859680
Incredibly controversial opinion: I think Mori’s avatar is a massive debuff and if she had been given Ame’s avatar instead, she’d be neck and neck with Gura in subs

>> No.14860320

why do anon itt still engaging gen5 schizo? tourist? newfag?

>> No.14860366

>>14859760
ina just mentioned VRchat collab

>> No.14860375

>>14860047
I don't like HoloEN, I just hate Nijisanji.

>> No.14860389

>>14860316
You're right, that is a pretty controversial opinion. Her voice doesn't fit Ame's model at all, she's a great fit for Mori.

>> No.14860393

>>14860320
All the schizos are the same person samefagging (Reimu).

>> No.14860395

>>14860102
Council suffers from Susan culling their live views.

>> No.14860404

>>14860298
she’s half assing really bad. like she’s tired of streaming. possible they pushed her new outfit because next year is her last

>> No.14860427

>>14860047
dont watch holoen. nijifaggots are too loud in this board they deserve to be shit on

>> No.14860459

14860298
larping as a dejected nousagi, hi again pekoschizo

>> No.14860495

>>14860316
Mori's avatar is perfect for her. It's not much of a stretch to go from demon rapper to reaper rapper.

If anything, Hololive has yet to show a massive mismatch between the avatar and the person behind them. Except for Flare lol.

>> No.14860551

>>14860320
All of the schizos are just Reimu samefagging.

>> No.14860600

>>14860551
Please donate...

>> No.14860602

>>14860320
Please understand. Reimu gets such shit numbers that she has to be a schizo here to cope.

>> No.14860668

>>14860495
>Hololive has yet to show a massive mismatch between the avatar and the person behind them
Subaru? It was supposed to be a athletic tomboy, instead we got a very girly girl.

>> No.14860686

>>14859655
Whatever you say Reimu.

>> No.14860728

>>14856112
Go Astel Go!

>> No.14860736

>>14860668
Tomboys showing off their girls side has such massive appeal that even if it's a mismatch, it's a lucky mismatch.

>> No.14860741

>>14860602
I bet that Reimu is the self hating spicshizo.

>> No.14860748

>>14860668
Ever since shes got her last 2 outfits her model now fits her

>> No.14860788

>>14860668
>>14860736
Besides, Subaru's initial model is a very light take on the tomboy trope. It's certainly not butch enough to be a massive mismatch.

>> No.14860794

>>14860736
Aloe then, it was supposed to be a cheerful succubus, instead we got a turbo menhera.

>> No.14860807

>>14860047
blame how fucking annoying nijiniggers are. Twinks and whores also doesnt help either

>> No.14860822
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I thought flips don't donate? How did she make so much money in this stream?

>> No.14860838

>>14860788
>>14860748
>>14860736
>>14860668
Subaru still has the genki energy that most anime tomboys have.

>> No.14860886

>>14860822
Spent their entire year of saving on this stream

>> No.14860888

>>14860822
>so much
is it? millie gains just as much in some regular streams

>> No.14860890

>>14860822
Flips only donate on Christmas season when they receive their bonuses.

>> No.14860906

>>14860404
I'm thinking of this. This might be a new outfit because she's graduating. We know Peko's heart isn't into it anymore and she is sick of hololive. As a 35p I will be sad but I hope the best for her in the future.

>> No.14860925

>>14856325
So Mumei will stream over their debut with Karaoke and then Gura will take over when she ends with meme review and then Mori potentially picks up the ending with a karaoke.
kek

>> No.14860930

>>14860822
Tang ina niya, marami nasalanta ni Odette. Kapal ng mukha.

>> No.14861004

>>14860822
She's actually unironically begging for money. Trust me, I'm flip, so I understand her title.

>> No.14861007

>>14860822
Now the question is, will her SC go down when she starts flirting with the guys on stream.

>> No.14861026
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>>14860822
>so much money
>a thousand bucks
IS THIS WHAT IT FEELS TO BE POOR?

>> No.14861031

>>14860316
Switch Ame with Kronii and I would agree. Mori voice wouldn’t fit Ame’s avatar, but I can see her fitting Kronii’s and I’m convinced that at least 75% of Kronii’s fanbase are just people that coom to her deep voice and design.

>> No.14861035

>>14860133
>>14860128
parts of Mori's incline can be put down on her mirroring some NijiEN shit like open invitation endurance streams or pushing for more freetalk collab content (I expect the tea time tomorrow to do well)

>> No.14861057

>>14860906
I heard this rrat for Mori, Ame, Hachaama, Gura, and etc. It never comes true.

>> No.14861114

>>14860788
>Subaru's initial model is a very light take on the tomboy trope.
It was literally meant to be a sports team coach or something like that, it might not be a massive mismatch but it's still a mismatch. Subaru makes it works though

>> No.14861123

>>14861035
She seemed to be super motivated after she did her collabs with Rushia/Ollie.
I think the whole concept of Hololive finally clicked with her after that.

>> No.14861122

>>14861035
im pretty sure she took the idea from JPs.
Hell not even that gura did a totsu with jumpking before.

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>>14861031
>>14860316
you're both insane, Mori's design and rigging are both like a class above most of Holopro, including Kronii, and it aligns with her voice profile perfectly
only thing it didn't align with was the rap focus and that got fixed by the casual outfit

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Rushia will take the top 10 spot on the subs ranking next week, that would make it so 9 out of the top 10 are all holos

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>>14861026
It's on par with Kiara's extremely long sc reading streams. She only streamed for 2 hours. Pic related is 6.

>> No.14861219

>>14861122
gura didn't do a totsu, she did a batsu with a prank call
also Mori interacted way more with the western vtubing scene considering her nip level

>> No.14861235

>>14861035
Anon, she only adapted the open invitation on endurances because her fanbase loved the one with IRyS and bae and wanted more, which wouldnt had happened if she didnt decided to take shots every single time she had a big fall in Jump King

>> No.14861247

>>14861114
Maybe we just have different takes on what constitutes a tomboy character.

There's tomboys that are very feminine even if they're sporty.

>> No.14861261

>>14860366
So this is probably what Ame has been working on. Honestly as EN gets more members I think Amelia becoming more of a project manager who occasionally streams is a good role for her. I'd be fine with that.

The Halloween stream was kino as fuck so I imagine the Christmas one will be awesome as well.

>> No.14861303

Pekora’s heart just isn’t in streaming anymore. She just doesn’t care, and her stagnant sub growth is a testament to that.

>> No.14861309

>>14861035
NijiEN did not invent the idea of sitting a discord channel

>> No.14861373

>>14861303
you will get more yous on hlgg and triple that on hlg

>> No.14861383

>>14861261
Ame in general seems to be spending a ton of time and resources building a whole VR ecosystem for HoloEN.
There's a new update coming to VR chat where it allows some form of collision physics apparently.

>> No.14861386

>>14860822
There's alot of flips overseas, either born there or workers

>> No.14861413

>>14861309
didn't need to invent shit to be the most likely inspiration

>> No.14861420

>>14861261
Key here is "as EN gets more members," though. I think that long-term her functioning as a sort of producer is easily her best fit both for what she wants out of Hololive and what makes for good content, but right now Council has been a bit lighter than they need to be and Myth too inconsistent for her to slip into that kind of role yet.

You need a solid 3rd gen first, then she'll be perfect in that kind of role.

>> No.14861451

>>14861057
Gura and Mori graduation rrats I can at least sort of understand because they do have enough influence to go indie, but Ame graduation rrats are just pure shitposting.

>> No.14861525

>>14861451
the ame graduation rrats is just easy (you) farming because teamates are the easiest fanbase to bait from holoEN by far

>> No.14861534

>>14861420
I can see Cover going for an ambitious Gen 3 for HoloEN.
Just look at how Gen 6 dominated during their debut buff period compared to how Council squandered it.

>> No.14861541

>>14856335
What Gura fan would watch Nijimales anyway? Aren’t their audiences completely different?

>> No.14861557

>>14861309
They didn't, but before NijiEN they didn't do shit. NijiID have been doing it for years as well but holoid never picked on it even though they are more connected.
also gura delayed her stream and will stream during the boys debut again lol huge holofag.

>> No.14861582

>>14861202
Anon, you are confusing SC reading (when the streaming is thanking the SC they received) with SC begging

>> No.14861597

>>14861196
Nice. She's gone a long way.

Also youtube randomly unsubed me from Rushia a few weeks ago. I have no idea why since I watched streams and have used chat and liked videos on her channel before.

>> No.14861669

>>14861557
>NijiID have been doing it for years as well but holoid never picked on it even though they are more connected.
Anon, for fuck sake, ID1 girls LIVED FUCKING TOGETHER and showed up on each other streams routinely by literally walking up and sitting beside the one streaming.

Also
>gura delayed her stream and will stream during the boys debut again lol huge holofag.
kek, thanks based shark

>> No.14861729

>>14861669
I forgot which wave it was, I think Obsydia or Ethyria got an uncontested debut.

>> No.14861746

>>14861669
Oh, then HoloID also copied NijiID, got it

>> No.14861772

>>14861451
Ame would definitely still have a sizeable fanbase if she went indie, lower than what she has in Holo of course, but definitely enough to live on. Ina is probably the one that could graduate the easiest, hololive isn't even her main job. Kiara is probably the most dependent on Holo, she was a failure before joining and probably loves that she can finally be an idol, even if might not be exactly what she dreamed.

>> No.14861788
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How can we end Sana?

>> No.14861800
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>COME ON IOFI, I KNOW YOU WANT IT
OVERLAP IT, DO IT!

>> No.14861801

checked Holostats, the fuck is wrong with Pekora? Most of her streams this month are under two hours and barely even got 20k views. Is she really reclining? What a terrible time to get a new outfit

>> No.14861811

>>14861729
Selen is a holo double-agent and killed wave 3 debuts on her own

>> No.14861851

>>14861138
If Mori’s avatar was actually as good as you say, she would have way more lewds. She gets less lewd art than anyone in EN sans perhaps Sana and Kiara.

>> No.14861853

>>14861557
Watch streams, it was Council that made myth take the collab stick from their own asses, Kiara even confirmed that on stream.

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14861861

>Anon think he can samefag and people won't notice

>> No.14861895

>>14861851
she gets cool art instead since it aligns with her persona better

>> No.14861899

Move here >>14861782 when you fags done

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>>14861801
Liar retard

>> No.14861928

>>14861788
Get her a new dog and then kill it?

>> No.14861941

>>14861811
I still don't understand what the fuck you people mean with it, even more when those girls are making lots of money in SC and two already are over 100k.

>> No.14861961

>>14861927
pls stop replying to reimu...

>> No.14861985

>>14861597
YT does the same for me with Ame and Mori, I don't really know why, I am a member too and I almost never get notifications for regular streams despite activating them all

>> No.14861996
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gen 6 only has 3 weeks collab ban huh ?
YMD X Towa
YMD X Shion

>>14861788
she has potention, just keep on streaming and pick good contents to stream.

>> No.14862028

>>14861996
Pure purple sex energy

>> No.14862082

>>14861996
Two kusogakis... I don't think I can handle it.

>> No.14862086

>>14861800
But that's Mel?

>> No.14862099

>>14861811
Ofc she is. She is a huge chumbuds, and when her oshi is absent, she took the matter into her own hand kek

>> No.14862104

>>14861941
>lots of money in SC
Are they? Millie bought a 3dio, Fauna bought a ku100 and she almost certainly the girl making the least money in EN. No one in wave 3 is making a lot of money, they even say in stream that they don't have a lot of money.

>> No.14862128

>>14861996
Finally. I always felt like a month ban is too long. 3 weeks seems like the best duration for the collab ban.

>> No.14862196

>>14862104
Fauna bought a $9k tax credit you mean.

>> No.14862230

>>14861772
Im not saying Ame couldn’t survive as an indie, just that there’s no way she’d be better off an indie, while Gura and Mori could at least tempt the idea that Hololive is a burden instead of a privilege.

>> No.14862233

>>14861996
>YMD X Shion
honestly tears coming down excessively from my eyes I understand the meme on a complete level

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>>14862028

>> No.14862240

>>14862104
Did she bought a ku100?
she still using her 3dio

>> No.14862267

>>14862196
I doubt that she is smart enough to put the ku100 as a business expanse.

>> No.14862270

>>14862196
Reminder that Watame said her accountant mentioned that almost all her expenses from her album production could be written off as business expenses.

>> No.14862337

>>14862104
They're full of shit if they say that, every one of them is. They're putting up 100k-200k VODs every time they stream and passively making minimum $5,000 take home off memberships, completely disregarding superchats.

>> No.14862339

>>14862230
Fair enough.By the way, Gura hates her old fanbase so I doubt she would go back to her PL even if she went indie again, she would probably make a new persona

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WTF!? I understand that she is very boring, but such numbers are illegal.

>> No.14862371

>>14862270
Now that you mentioned it, did watame and suisei produce their own album? Or were they signing up with some record label like sora?

>> No.14862425

>>14862240
She said she was gonna buy it 'soon' a few streams ago. They are in backorder so it will be a while before she gets it though.

>> No.14862450

>>14862371
None of them signed up for a record label, there's no need to when they can afford to self fund and get awareness from the fanbase itself.
Suisei would probably make LESS money if she signed up with one due to all the cuts.

>> No.14862451

Who will win
Sana Silling stream
or
Pomu ginger bread house stream with IRL cam

>> No.14862481
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14862481

>NOT TODAY, SELEN
interestingly enough whatever CCV Sana gets on this stream (up to 3156) will be her new median

>> No.14862509
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14862509

Today's superchats

>> No.14862540

>>14862104
>Millie bought a 3dio, Fauna bought a ku100 and she almost certainly the girl making the least money in EN
In the case of Fauna Ku100, absolutely wrong purchase, she makes the crappy ASMR.

>> No.14862542

>>14862509
Chloe will win the month, won't she?

>> No.14862544

>>14862451
>Sana Silling stream

>> No.14862552

>>14862270
Hopefully their managers tell them that. They'd be insane not to write off all their streaming equipment. If they own a house they can have one room dedicated to streaming and get that square footage out of their property taxes.

How do holos keep their books? Hope the taxman ignores them?

>> No.14862568

>>14862451
Sana's lucky literally no one else in Hololive is streaming.

>> No.14862606

>>14862542
Yeah it's not even a contest, give me a sec I'll post the updated running total chart

>> No.14862616

Think peko can get 47k SC for her outfit? If she does she’ll cross the $2Mil barrier

>> No.14862671

>>14862616
No, Pekora gets decent SCs just on volume but something like 47k in one stream is way beyond her.

>> No.14862726

>>14862542
>2.15m
>13 days to go (including today)
Yeah she will get over 30m this month

>> No.14862767

>>14862726
>21.5m*

>> No.14862781

>>14862552
iirc all the girls hire accountants cause their taxes are too complicated

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>>14862671
???
Also >decent SCs, she's the third most SCed person in the world lmao this is the worst numberrot I've seen

>> No.14862785

>>14862481
is she the midget gatekeeper?

>> No.14862807

>>14862337
>They're full of shit if they say that, every one of them is.
I think it was Nina or Enna that said she had 'no money', I think it was in the collab where they ended up putting Rikku as profile picture.

You bring good points, but you have to remember that YouTube takes 30%, Niji probably takes 50% of what is left and then they have to pay taxes and most of them are Canadians so their taxes should be fairly high.

>> No.14862825

>>14862450
True. I hope sora sign off her contract for next album now that they dont need it

>> No.14862850

>>14862785
Pretty much. She just inclined her median to over 3k tho, while Selen never managed to cross that ceiling.

It's like Sana is taunting Selen with that

>> No.14862877

>>14862540
Absolutely right purchase you mean, ASMR is the only thing she has going for her and maybe the KU100 can move her from crappy to alright, it will probably pay itself in a few months.

>> No.14862944

>>14862781
Are the ENgirls do the same too? I at least know the ID girls arent paying their taxes since ID is really lax on their tax

>> No.14862945

>>14862807
And they dont put 100k-200k every time they stream that´is HoloEN level.

>> No.14863017

>>14862944
90% Ame is trying to cheat the government and Gura will owe some back taxes.

>> No.14863026

>>14862944
Based, if that is true ID is now my favourite branch

>> No.14863100

>>14863017
I bet that Ame put that charity stream's donation as her own donations for deduction.

>> No.14863148

uncommon miko stream at this hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj59_bpZ6uc

>> No.14863301

>>14863100
That would be extremely based

>> No.14863371

>>14863148
Uncommon timeslot or uncommon video?

>> No.14863418

>>14862944
for some reason, I remember ina mentioning finances and doing it with family not sure on the rest.
although I wouldn't be surprised if gura messes up her taxes since she didn't know what a dependent was

>> No.14863510

>>14863148
Early stream due to Vills

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