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>1.05 million subscribers
>former popular hololive member
>can only get under 2k viewers now
What went wrong?

>> No.14837053

Any more thread today, OP? Seething about her earning huh LOL

>> No.14837076

>>14837012
>>14836106

>> No.14837137

Lacking the holo brand and the holo collab structure she is less popular with less informed people, however she is still in the top .0001% of Indies and therefore it's not worth discussing. The difference is like saying Elon Musk has 4 times the net worth of Mike Bloomberg.

>>14837053
She is earning less though.

>> No.14837173

I wish KSon would make a Chinese meme review, but we know what would happen after that.

>> No.14837189

holy shit it must suck being you man, hope life gets better

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>>14837012

>> No.14837237

>>14837012
This thread isn't about males.

>> No.14837243

>>14837137
This anon has a good head on his shoulder

>>14837012
this anon is chink

>> No.14837247

I wish my Oshi had fraction of her numbers...

>> No.14837249

>>14837189
The store must be out of bats to eat

>> No.14837303

912
67
1107
4
1265
145

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>>14837076
I knew one of you would bring this up. It means nothing when it's the same fucking handful of tatsunokos dropping 500$ every stream for no reason. Kson doesn't do anything impressive to earn it, she just streams and they all come at once. It's like nakirigumi and Ayame. Kson is also failing to bring in new viewers and is only kept afloat by hardcore Coco fans. 3.9k on a Minecraft stream with Nyanners, Melody, Ironmouse and fucking Connor is pathetic.

>> No.14837354

On the other hand that's quite amazing, not having a conglomerate to shill you and being a pariah in the industry, yet still pulling four digits is respectable.

>> No.14837367

>>14837304
The redditors in this thread are going to forget about her in a year.

>> No.14837395

>>14837304
Based as fuck. Has a loyal core group and makes bank while also getting to collab with western big names.

>> No.14837406

Imo Coco by herself isn't really all that interesting with her personality as an indie, but the way she shook up hololive with her strange ass mannerisms and interactions with members (esp Watame) really made her worth watching. Now, she's in a room full of people who have the same weird style as her and she just can't keep up. But I still think moving to Kson was better since she gets to keep her freedom as a creator, whatever.

>> No.14837407

>>14837304
If you take off your corporate glasses, then her numbers are not bad.
Why anons can't change perspective, and only formulate their opinions from their warped pov?

>> No.14837455

>>14837407
Cause this is a chink, anon. Has been setting up thread after thread today trying to start shit and always fails spectacularly.

>> No.14837460

>>14837367
guys did you know this nichie indie called kson used to be a certain legendary dragon yakuza v tuber from a certain famous v tuber company ?

>> No.14837461

>>14837012
So when does someone who didn't like Coco before and is not a fan of Kson become Chinese?
Because apparently you can't say anything negative about her unless you are one.

>> No.14837495

Coco have NEVER had good numbers on normal talk/game streams so im not surprised in the least.

Where she shined was with weird special streams and the likes (mostly with other holomembers), which is a lot harder to do now

>> No.14837499

The actual queen of dead subs.

>> No.14837504

>>14837461
Or they're stalkers with a very big grudge

>> No.14837523

>>14837461
Not when someone is so obsessed to make thread after thread and actually exposed themselves as someone from West taiwan /vt/ where this shit originated from.

>> No.14837531

>>14837304
Streaming is a job and superchat is the only metric that matters. She is one of the most successful in the business, and no matter how hard you try to cope you can't change that reality.

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>>14837461
she has one of the most retarded fanbases in vtuber history. i enjoyed coco a lot, particularly her collabs. kson on the other hand just isn't interesting. it's clear she was way better in a group than solo. but no, thinking this makes me a zhang apparently. fuck tatsunokos.

>> No.14837551

>>14837531
>superchat is the only metric that matters
This is how small fry think

>> No.14837716

>>14837551
>muh sponsorships copium
Those only pay a couple thousand per video. She makes more by doing zatsudans with SC readings.

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>>14837012
fuck views, it's all about donations.
Even a senior code monkey like me cant earn this much working for 8 hours a day

>> No.14838753

>made cover disband a worthless branch
>also fucked off along with them
i see it as a win win

>> No.14838896

>>14837407
She'd have ten times those numbers and much more money in the corp

>> No.14838906

Yikes. This proves that Hololive "talents" are nothing without hololive. They're only popular because of Hololive and not because of their personality or what not.

>> No.14838921

>>14838753
Not sure if I missed something, but I've yet to see even a single reason why anyone actually hates Yogiri or Civia.

>> No.14838944

>>14838906
And that just means, holofags are clout chaising, brand worshipping normalfaggs.

>> No.14838972

>>14838921
Racism

>> No.14839014

>>14837499
She's not Goorah

>> No.14839617

>>14837012
I know this is the weekends where Xi allows (You) to browse the internet so I know your filthy chink appendages are spamming these bait threads. No matter what she still makes more friends than (You) and hjer fanbase is extremely loyal unlike (You)

>> No.14840125

>>14837012
Most of her former fanbase are uninterested in her new content, and would rather have her collab with the Holos again, as evident from her collab video with Mel and Choco's roommates having way more views that her other videos.

She also turned off part of her fanbase due to her decision to start collabing with western VTubers and even western regular IRL YouTubers.

>> No.14840188

>>14837012
Who cares about numbers? You should stay in your containment thread instead of making all these bait threads

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>>14840125
This. The party video with holo members roommates has 8x the views compared to everything else, especially Minecraft. People are realizing kson is boring without her Coco character or hololive.

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>>14837012

>> No.14840317

Please rangeban this faggot already...

>> No.14840346

>>14837012
>this level of obsession
why are ksonshizos like this? you can just ignore her like a normal anti lol

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>>14837012
This faggot made 5 fucking threads and reply to himself to keep it alive. Please see help anon

>> No.14840384

>>14840262
Thanks for pointing out the video. Don't watch kson so didn't know a roommate collab happened. Will watch it now.

>> No.14840404

you literally post this thread every day zhang

>> No.14840772

>>14837012
>can only get under 2k viewers now
That's only the beginning. If you haven't noticed, her recline is constant. Wait 3 more months and she'll struggle with getting 1k viewers.

>> No.14840819

The heat's gone and she's back to regular Coco numbers. People didn't really watch her outside of the meme reviews or other collabs.

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14840828

I'm glad my oshi lives rent-free in the head of chinks, remember she's the queen of vtubers and she'll never go away, enjoy seething for all eternity.

>> No.14840862

>>14837012
She doesn't have the Holo brand anymore but besides meme review her normal streams only got like 4 or 5k

>> No.14840875

>>14840828
>image
uhh care to explain chinks?

>> No.14840884

>>14840828
based

>> No.14841043

>>14837534
>gura avatarfag anti-ing coco
Trying to set the next target up?

>> No.14841056

>>14838921
easily believe in rrats

>> No.14841175

>>14837012
I swear to God it's the same schizo making these fucking threads.

>> No.14841344
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14841344

>New model stink wore off
>Has to be more subdued because she doesn't have a corpo backing her
>Meme review is more boring without a guest
>Morning news stuff was to much work
>Blatantly obvious she has no creativity
>>14840828
>Tatsucucks still using this november image.
Here's something a little more recent!

For the week 11.29 to 12.05, Kson is ranked number 45, for the week of 12.06 of 12.12 she's ranked 87.

Chinks need don't need to anything more, kson will fade into irrelevancy on her own.

>> No.14841589

>>14841344
she streams as a bobby and took a break this month. Why are you bringing up corporates thryhards? mentall ill numbernigger. Compare her to other indies now, i'm waiting.

>> No.14841718

>>14837012
Surprised tranny reddit jannies haven't deleted this thread for "doxxing" yet.

>> No.14841802

>>14837012
I mean.. I cared about Coco because she made Hololive a better place, I didn't find her that interesting as a streamer. Why would I ever follow her?

>> No.14841808

See you tonight for meme review when you scream about her numbers again before falling into an elevator shift OP

>> No.14841820

>>14837012
>numberfag
You realize she makes more money than your poverty viewer shark, right?

>> No.14841823

>>14841043
case in point. you're not allowed to dislike anything, else it's psyops, shilling, russian/chinese conspiracies, hate farms, 5d moves on a cultural chess board. eat shit faggot.

>> No.14841833

>>14841344
The only thing you forgot to mention that she didn’t stream for more than a week. Now fuck off back to your containment thread.

>> No.14841844

>be born chinese
>a woman says the T word, instinctively triggering your PTSD that the CCP implanted into you since childhood
>spend the next 1 year of your pathetic drone life harassing said woman
>she says fuck it and collects the biggest paycheck of her career thanks to you, can retire and is set for life
>declare victory
>said woman still continues to make more money than your bug life ever will in the drone colony
>remain eternally seething until you get publicly executed by the CCP because you didnt be a internet warrior hard enough for the week

Its amazing how much butthurt Coco causes to the chinese even after they "won"

>> No.14841863

>caring about view counts
this is how I know you never watched Coco
>lower viewers
>super rich gachikois
that has always been her audience.

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>>14839014
gura has the highest average vod views out of everyone in hololive anon...

>> No.14841887

>>14841833
What a whore

>> No.14841900

>>14841872
>most clicks
>no money
so basically bots or poor people?

>> No.14841912

>>14841823
rent free obsessed schizo. She's not gonna stop, no matter how many anti threads you spam.

>> No.14841940

>>14841900
Gura has 65k confirmed members, a membership is 4.99$
I'll let you do the math on how much she makes monthly, if that is no money to you then I wouldn't dare to ask you what you think about people that dont even have 1k members

>> No.14841945

She is literally a millionaire, she doesn't need to stream at corporate levels, just to take it easy and have fun. Numberfags are absolute cancer.

>> No.14841962

>>14841863
>that has always been her audience.
Eh, not really. Only in 2021 after a long period of chat spam, members-only chat, various other restrictions and an overall tense atmosphere. In early 2020 especially she was breaking all sorts of viewer records.

>> No.14841964

>>14841940
you can member for ARS, Kson gets individual people donating $500 daily. That's 100 $5 memberships, each time.

>> No.14841983

>>14841940
>the ksonschizo is a chumpedo
lmao

>> No.14842019

>>14841940
Kson doesn't have to pay the hololive 50% tax.

The fact that she can make more AS AN INDIE with no company propping her up is a testament to how good she is.

>> No.14842021

>>14841983
I mean pretty much everyone knows Gurafags are the cancer of this board, roleplaying as chinks just makes sense for them.

>> No.14842038

>>14837012
Talking stream

>> No.14842100

>>14841940
actually gura has 10 gorillion confirmed members and makes over $100k in supas every stream, go check playboard

>> No.14842131

>>14841940
confirmed by (you)

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>>14841940
Kek, this isn't even close, are all the people that watch Gura underage, poor or both?

>> No.14842215

holy shit /vt/sisters yall excited for yet another meme review????

>> No.14842230

>>14842155
tatsunokos are wealthy high status members of society

chumcucks are poor pedos

>> No.14842331

>>14842131
confirmed by her members only polls

>> No.14842354

>>14837012
I mean what can a whore talk about?

>> No.14842427

>>14837012
Long live the People's Republic of China .

>> No.14842508

>>14837012
/vt/ (read: Twitter/Discord tourists) might not like it but collabing with Anitubers will damage your brand

>> No.14842607

>>14842230
What you expected from unemployed pedo neet ?

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>>14837304
>3.9k on a Minecraft stream with Nyanners, Melody, Ironmouse and fucking Connor is pathetic.
yeah i remember... that day Ironmouse and even motherfucker Connor had 8k+ and 7k+ each.
So it really was sad for her to fall like that, maybe that the reason she collabed with Nux, she is desperate...

>> No.14842806

>>14841863
Why do her gachikois support her collabing with a whore on chaturbate, connor on minecraft, the green niji gremlin, nux etc.?

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>>14837531
>superchat is the only metric that matters
anon you think like a pennyless smallfish poorfag, what really matters are raw numbers, that's what bring more viewers and sponsors, that's were the REAL money comes, big numbers = sponsor = a shit ton of money

>> No.14842862

>>14842806
They like her, the other people are just people to bounce off. And if they like Kson, then they are fine.

>> No.14842866

>>14842721
Keep in mind how YT counts live viewers now, her actual peak was probably close to 7k too.

>> No.14842906

>>14842862
Weird. I'd be pissed if my oshi went from being one of the top vtubers out there to collabing with such absolute bottom of the barrel dreck.

>> No.14842909

>>14837495
>Coco have NEVER had good numbers on normal talk/game streams
because she was/is boring

>> No.14842920

>>14842857
Nice cope lmao

>> No.14842926

>>14842906
But Kson isn't streaming with goo-rah, Pikamee is great.

>> No.14842961

>>14837012
Even though her new model is fine I think she would’ve gotten more viewers streaming as her irl self. Should’ve also tried speaking speaking English now that Cover isn’t constricting her to being mainly JP but she seems intent on keeping her content as much the same as it was before as possible, which is another one of her flaws.

>> No.14842972

>>14842926
Ah yes, Gura would be "dreck", but Nux, Connor and an actual chaturbate whore are based.
There is no helping you.

>> No.14843047

>>14842972
Mel is a great girl

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>>14840828
>my oshi lives rent-free
your oshi is Nux latest bitch

>> No.14843108

>>14843054
Nux lives in your head rent free too.

>> No.14843118

>>14842806
It's love. Maybe it's different for other vtubers' fans, but kson's fans support her no matter what. She's been through a lot together with them so there's a strong feeling of trust.

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>>14843108
anon, inhale

>> No.14843855

>>14842806
Bruh we have been through so much fucking shit if you were there from the start with Coco.

Kson killing some girl wouldnt be enough for me to drop her at this point.
Do you think her playing some game with x-person that is generally disliked here would matter anything to the tatsunokos?

>> No.14844148

>>14843855
To each his own I guess but the fact that her ultimate creative freedom resulted in THAT is just pitiful. Never seen a bigger fall from grace.

Imagine going from being a top holo to appearing on Chaturbate or collabing with the likes of Nux and Connor.

>> No.14844202

>>14844148
imagine thinking it matters
inhale

>> No.14844245

>>14841823
Based
>>14841912
Cringe schizo

>> No.14844247

>>14844148
whats with Nux and Connor btw? whats bad about them or w/e to call it?

I literally heard of them first time from Kson so I have no real clue

>> No.14844257

>>14844202
How doesn't it matter? How doesn't the content matter? It's literally the only thing that matters.
If my oshi started streaming nothing but garbage then I would obviously drop her, because that's the entirety of what I get from her.

>> No.14844295

>>14844247
Drama-loaded meme zoomer and ironic anituber groomer. Both are cancer in their own ways.

>> No.14844307

>>14844247
They have a penis.

>> No.14844339

>>14838921
if you've kept up youd know nobody hates yogiri beause she was the only one who was smart enough to keep her damn mouth shut and wasnt a menhera schizo like her genmates, she went on to a new vtubing career and is doing just fine

>> No.14844433

>>14844257
she's not your oshi so again why does it matter?

>> No.14844477

>>14837137
I had to Google mike bloomberg

>> No.14844638

>>14844433
The concept doesn't change though, oshi or not. The fact is that the streams a vtuber does is the only thing connecting you and her.
If you start to hate her streams then what's there left to like?
And if you don't hate people like Nux or Connor then what the fuck is wrong with you? I can't think of someone much more cancerous. Maybe Woohoolad. I'm sure she'll collab with that guy too soon.

>> No.14844785

>>14844148
Grace is a state of mind rather than how many numbers you attract. If you watch her now, she positively radiates happiness and seems to be in a true state of grace compared to when Coco cried on stream. Those collabs are only a few streams out of like a 100 she's done just after her new model debut. If you can set aside your numbers obsessed mentality, it's clear she is in peak condition. Ironically, the one time she was upset about something recently it was because a holo friend came to her and unloaded her worries.

>> No.14844793

>>14844638
That's his problem, it doesn't have anything to do with you. Why are you seething anyway? lmao

>> No.14844939

>>14844638
I don't hate them because I don't even watch them

>> No.14845073

>>14844148
>fall from grace
>making lots of money, no hololive tax
>free to make any content she wants, no manager bullshit
Yagoo go to bed.

>> No.14845090

>>14845073
same content, but with whores and guys!

>> No.14845101

>>14845090
hololive unironically has far more whores than who kson streams with.

>> No.14845130

>>14845101
yeah holos are always talking about cocks, cum, periods, and streaming on chaturbate
>ksontards

>> No.14845151

>>14845073
>free to make any content she wants
Truly amazing content. Chaturbate, twitch cancer and ironic weeb anituber discord groomer guys. I kneel to her creative freedom.

>> No.14845188

>>14845151
meanwhile in hololive:
>do your mandated minecraft/karaoke stream 100 times a week, please
>anything non-seiso is banned

>> No.14845235

>>14845188
excited for another meme review?

>> No.14845241

>>14845188
And kson proves that holo management is right to do it this way.
See what happens when you don't have that management. You get absolute gutter trash like what kson does now.

>> No.14845267

>>14845235
you mean the stuff that goorah is copying?

>> No.14845273

>>14845235
>weekly pikason meme review
yes, more entertaining than most of her hololive partners

>> No.14845300

>>14845267
you mean the leftover holo content that cocoson is still doing because she isn't creative?

>> No.14845318

>>14837012
Nothing anon, nothing wrong
Money > numbers

>> No.14845366

>>14845318
B-B-But money doesn't matter if I say so!
P-P-Please spend your weekend roleplaying with me, I'm so lonely...

>> No.14845449

Kson Kopers really are the most pathetic individuals on this board

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>>14837012
its becaus she's following in the footsteps of her husbando, Kiryu Kazuma

>Started from the bottom
>Clawed her way up with her unique idea of asacoco, risky streams and quickly became the black sheep of the family
>has helped her fellow genmates and colleagues on many numerous occasions
>quickly became popular
>Mentioned a country that is being disputed by a powerful nation
>has been framed and used as a catalyst to push the chinese agenda to take down hololive
>She survives but the higher brass doesn't like her
>becomes the highest superchatted channel in youtube
>collabed with the CEO Yagoo himself
>Proposed the Holohouse where other holomems can live and freely hangout or collab
>yet despite at the peak of her hololive career, she decided to step down
>got out of corporate and became an indie
>now she's collabing with fellow indies and other less-known vtubers
>basically taking care of them
>now known with a different name, she prefers that she dont get known by her old peers but would show up if trouble comes

>> No.14845498

>>14845449
you seem upset, please take your medication

>> No.14845535

>>14845235
>Kson + Pikamee vs Coco and untalented EN whores
yes.

>> No.14845545

>fucking work place didn't allow me to roll around in the mud and eat shit off the floor
>well fuck them, I'm quitting! Now I can do anything I want. Finally I can eat shit and roll around in the dirt. Are you guys jealous? You should be, I'm free at last

>> No.14845587

>>14845498
Dilate

>> No.14846642

>>14845188
>thinks holos stream minecraft because it's mandated and not because they currently have the most engaging, long running streaming dedicated server on the planet, powered by war rabbit
I hate chinks too, but c'mon

>> No.14846803

>>14840262
Who were the roommates exactly? I thought they were genuine different streamers

>> No.14846833

>>14837012
I think she just wants more personal liberties and is willing to get a lower paycheck if it means not having to deal with contractual bullshit.

It's very likely she's moving away from streaming and seeking to get an actual job.

>> No.14846887

>>14845476
Huh
That actually is pretty cool
My respect for her has increased

>> No.14846975

>>14845188
>>14846642
I'm pretty sure it's mandated but not as in they're obligated by contract, but rather because it's super easy content and zoomers gobble it up.

>> No.14847042

>>14840262
>>14846833
The irony is that that video has 8x the views compared to anything those roommates' respective holo members get. It's like people want roommate content and daily life type stuff that they don't see in hololive.

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>>14845188
>>anything non-seiso is banned
Thank god

>> No.14847158

>>14837012
Everything went right. Coco was nothing over orange anime meme woman in the first place. This is her natural(declining) pull.

>> No.14847160

I can’t believe chinks are still seething after all this time.
Artia is dead and rotting in hell, move on with your life, this is cringe.

>> No.14847373

>>14847160
cocucks stay mad and biting the hook every time

>> No.14847394

>>14847160
Your desperate projections are more amusing than Coco streams at this point. Guess what that says about her.

>> No.14847527

>>14847160
artia is probably in a lot better place now that she's distanced herself with streaming, as far as i know she's back to studying.

>> No.14847544

>>14847394
to be fair, that's a low bar to clear

>> No.14847571

>>14837012
nijifags love to shit on people huh

>> No.14847695

>>14846975
So... not mandated?
Restrictions in Hololive are more about the things you can't do rather than the things you have to. Karaoke too: they had so many copyright issues that I'm willing to bet the management would be more than happy if it gets outright banned.

>>14847042
The roomate stuff surely helped, but the numbers that stream got are mostly because people are starved for Coco x Holomems interactions. A collab with tenshi or sheep would easily break 100k CCV even without any roommate reveal.

>> No.14847755

>>14844148
Man, you guys whine about 'creative freedom' day in and day out and yet apparently you don't even know she mentions the big expensive projects she's preparing for 2022 in every other stream. When you're this ill-informed it's no wonder your bait gets no attention in the actual fan thread and you have to create three or four threads at a time to bitch about her.

>> No.14847817

>>14847755
surely it will happen any day now!

>> No.14849092

>>14837012
No more crazy dedicated viewer how watch them even if they busy, this is brand power

>> No.14852789

>>14837012
Similar numbers as pre-graduation announcement Coco

>> No.14852951

>>14845449
This, even chumbuds have more dignity

>> No.14853104

>>14845535
Based.
the meme review with Calli was a fkn disaster and a half...

>> No.14853311

all these numbers and holos still have 0 soul

>> No.14855136

coco has always been boring and I'm tired of pretending she's not

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>>14845235
Pikamee>any holoshit Coco has ever played with

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>> No.14856230

>>14837012
Why her model look like faggot?

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>>14837012
I want this bitch to fail.
Not because I hate her.
I just have a yellow fever and know she's gonna start an onlyfans when the money stops pouring in.

>> No.14857368

>>14842721
Ironmouse/connor were on Twitch. They had their regular audience.
Many people there don't really know Kson at all. Those of us who do were watching on Ksons channel because it was her collab.

>> No.14857440

>>14846803
Certain members of the old guards famous for being SEX. Listen to the voices and you'll understand.

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>>14837012

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>>14837304
>fucking connor

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>>14837012
She's the Super Best Friends/SwItcher/WoolieWoolz of Vtuber. She's great when working together with others. Her solo content is boring and her attempt at recreating the atmosphere with indie is just a stopgap measure and paled in comparison to her old collabs.

>> No.14860640

>>14860323
See >>14840828
Vtuber who made the most money in the world in all of november, as an indie, she's literally one of the most successful vtubers in the world, not even corporate vtubers can compete.

>> No.14860792

>>14837012
I'm not interesting in boring "I will talk with my chat videos/streams.". They are just waste of mu brain cells and data space. Wouldn't mind Gunpla building, with her boobs on, but to be honest, she had better content before becoming Coco. Also, she keeps colabing with really uninteresting people and vshitojo.

>> No.14860870

>>14860640
>more money than marine and pekora combined
roru roru rumao

>> No.14861027

>>14860640
And Pat made enough money to maintain his semi-NEET lifestyle with his pets and Paige. So is Asmongold who basically a recluse with no social skills who never made a decent meal in his life. Both of whom produced DSP-tier content and are sustained by their hardcore supporters.
On any objective standpoints, Kson/Coco's model of relying on streaming alone is overall less profitable and benefits her in the long run. When mid-tier Holo like Noel or Botan already got their foot in the Jap gaming industry, it's clear that both Cover and other Holo knew that streaming as revenue is a bubble and started moving from pure game streams/content to semi-seiyuu/celeb/idol industry by working with game corps and major musicians.
Hell, both Pat and Woolie rode the high after their groups' break up for a whole year before fizzling out. They never gonna end up broke but quality and popularity wise, they never capture the same popularity and hype as the old channel. Same thing with Kson

>> No.14861103

>>14860323
man, pat and woolie's stuff sucks so much now. never really got into matt's stuff either

>> No.14861381

>>14861103
Woolie's attempt to rope in his editor and wagecuck FGC friend into creating his own SBFB when both of them are boring as fuck was awful as well. If you want some decent content out of their channels, the podcast is decent but filled with dead air a bunch of time and Pat's whole thing with his dog is clearly getting on Woolie's nerves but he can't even drop the podcast because it's the only thing worth a shit on his channel.
Not so different from what Kson is doing with her indie friends, really. It's saying something that her biggest and constant guests that gathered the biggest attention is Pikamee who is already popular with EOP thanks to clips and being bilingual.

>> No.14861382

>>14861027
Sorry but i'm not reading this long post about western e-celebs, i just don't care.
I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that it happened.

>> No.14861620

>>14861382
Here's a thing, anon. Vtuber and e-celeb are the same. Kson's model of streaming is even more similar to usual Western gaming Youtubers once the LP format started to die off and they are forced to change and deal with the fading interest.
And the amount of money/donation doesn't equal the quality of the content produced, either.

>> No.14861824

>>14861381
I quit listening to the podcast sometime last year. No exaggeration, I was two hours into their four and a half hour (!!!) podcast and had a sudden realization that I was getting dumber with every passing moment I listened to those two

>> No.14861859

>>14861620
Why would i take the opinion of an EOP who doesn't even belong in this hobby seriously? you cannot understand what she says

>> No.14862132

She's just not fun as indie idol.
The fact that she was crass and unidol like while she was with cover and she would "corrupt" the other idols, except not really, was fun to watch.
She was an entertaining version of what matsuri tries to be.
By herself she's just another women being crass and annoying but sometimes cute on the internet and there are a billion of them trying this shit.

Also fuck china
fuck subhuman chinks
but most of all
fuck jannies

>> No.14862241

>>14862132
trying too hard to fit in

>> No.14862411

>>14861620
>And the amount of money/donation doesn't equal the quality of the content produced, either.
Views don’t either, especially for someone that actively chooses to use mildom for half her streams because she likes a slower chat and also almost exclusively plays nothing but no-name steam indie games instead of every FOTM, just look at Hololive, everyone is playing the new Pokemon because it’s the “new big thing” meanwhile she’s playing games nobody ever heard of.
You’re trying to rate her content by the amount of views when she doesn’t want care about them in the first place, she’s making a disproportionate amount of money streaming whatever the fuck she wants compared to corporate vtubers treating their streams like a job.
Numberfagging someone that couldn’t care less about numbers is dumb, and so is trying to rate her content when you most likely don’t watch her.

>> No.14862448

>>14862241
>trying too hard to fit in
No I fucking hate china and the chinese.
I hate how they can't just leave things be and instead act like leftists cucks trying to cancel anything they dislike.

>> No.14862757

>>14861824
It's decent sometimes since I think they are the only ones doing podcast and gaming shit who actually knowledgable somewhat about the industry, mechanics, and miscellaneous pop culture ranging from movies to anime and manga to not be like 99% other normie gaming podcasts even if they are retarded like 50% of the time. Hell, I think besides specific Gundam podcasts, I don't think anyone but them acknowledges the influence of Tomino and Gundam on anime.
>>14861859
Why would I care about a brainless supporter's opinion about his oshi? If you consider watching Vtuber your "hobby" then you need to unironically go out and touch some fucking grass, anon.
You're free to show why watching Kson's content is better than 90% of other chuuba/vtuber/youtuber or any other form of activities outthere.
>>14862411
>Views don’t either, especially for someone that actively chooses to use mildom for half her streams because she likes a slower chat and also almost exclusively plays nothing but no-name steam indie games instead of every FOTM, just look at Hololive, everyone is playing the new Pokemon because it’s the “new big thing” meanwhile she’s playing games nobody ever heard of.
There is playing trashy but interesting kusoge, stuff like Evil Zone or old school shmup like Radiant Silvergun or even old ADV game like Snatcher or Metal Slader. Most of what she stream are simply not good or interesting in any aspect (mechanic, graphic, character designs or story) and her content is simply looking "wow look at this kusoge, it's so shitty, am I right?"
>You’re trying to rate her content by the amount of views when she doesn’t want care about them in the first place, she’s making a disproportionate amount of money streaming whatever the fuck she wants compared to corporate vtubers treating their streams like a job.
I'm trying to rate based on the content of what she streamed. If what she streamed, game or movie watchalong or whatever is uninteresting then it is no different than corpo chasing the latest fad/FOTM games, which are probably more interesting to see because these games are actually worth taking a look at, even when playing by amateurs.

>> No.14863075

>>14862757
Saying that something is boring or uninteresting isn't an argument, it's just a worthles opinion from an EOP in a bait thread that only antis and shitposters take seriously but i'm glad she lives rent-free in your head.

>> No.14863129

>>14862757
I’d rather watch her play weird games over numberfags playing the same shit over and over.

>> No.14863169

>>14863129
Kids like vtubers who scream and play pokemon tho so you're obviously wrong.

>> No.14863483

>>14863075
>Saying that something is boring or uninteresting isn't an argument, it's just a worthles opinion from an EOP in a bait thread that only antis and shitposters take seriously
If it's not interesting or worth your time, then why waste your time to watch or play it? I have no obligation or duty to watch every one of her streams or put her on a pedestal.
>i'm glad she lives rent-free in your head.
If she's boring then she didn't live rent-free in my head, anon. If I hated her then she would but when she's boring then she's just another chuuba whose name I recognize but I don't really care much for.
Sure, I'm glad that she found a way to continue streaming what she wanted with success but so are bunches of retards online like twomad or whoever zoomers love to watch online these days.
Honestly, by itself, shitposing on this thread is more interesting than watching her stream these days.

>> No.14863541

>>14863483
Her streams would be more interesting if you did your reps and could understand what she says, just stick to EN, that's where you belong.

>> No.14863733

>>14862757
>I think they are the only ones doing podcast and gaming shit who actually knowledgable
I disagree, I felt like I was listening to two guys with half the facts on any given subject that came up on their podcast. Maybe it's better now though; glad you enjoy it

>> No.14863898

>>14863541
Her streams would be more interesting if she picked better games and have decent topics to talk about, anon. Noel's talking about 守破離 or about how she loved LoGH's Kircheis during her Nioh playthrough is more fun than most of the things coming out of Kson's streams.

>> No.14863997

>>14863898
She talks about interesting stuff all the time, including her upcoming projects with VR tech and 3D, of course you don't watch her so you have no idea if her streams are good or not.

>> No.14864110

>>14863997
Are you really expecting an ENfag to watch a JP zatsudan streamer? This entire thread is retarded.
>>14863898
If Noel’s streams are so interesting why is she always below kson in superchats?

>> No.14864157

>>14846803
Choco even without looking like a succubus anime girl, carries herself and dresses in a way that would slay herbivore men. Her tits are fantastic too

>> No.14864241

>>14837012
I never liked her, even before all of the zhang bullshit.
>sounds like a grandma in her nip voice
>sounds like an obnoxious bitch when she speaks english
>squats and shows her tits on stream like a subhuman whore

>> No.14864253

>>14864110
>If Noel’s streams are so interesting why is she always below kson in superchats?
Because uh... uhh....

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>>14863997
>interesting stuff all the time
like what then? Her usual whatever lifestory or what's her doing day-to-day is boring and her whole riff from back in her Bar Coco days was something only depressed Japanese wageslave could enjoy
>her upcoming projects with VR tech and 3D
Unless it's something specific to the technology and know-how and just usual teasing about "big plan, guys", it's about as interesting as watching paint dry.
>>14864110
>>14864253
>samefagging this hard
>If Noel’s streams are so interesting why is she always below kson in superchats?
If amount of money donated equal quality then I guess Rekieta's a far more interesting Youtuber than Kson then

>> No.14864345

>>14847042
>It's like people want roommate content and daily life type stuff that they don't see in hololive.
YES

>> No.14864471

>>14864110
>If Noel’s streams are so interesting why is she always below kson in superchats?
She's not speaking English nor did her hardcore gachikoi donate through Youtube when there are better ways to donate directly to her.

>> No.14864560

>>14864338
Ah, you're that EOP who read one of my posts once in another bait thread that keeps repeating my "depressed Japanese wageslave" description of some of her audience.
All the information you get is from these threads, thanks for confirming you're the same retard who is always in these shit threads, man you really are a pathetic schizo.
>>14864471
>She's not speaking English
Kson doesn't either, not in her zatsudans and SC readings where she gets her money.

>> No.14864859

>>14864560
>Ah, you're that EOP who read one of my posts once in another bait thread that keeps repeating my "depressed Japanese wageslave" description of some of her audience.
It's not that hard to see what kind of audiences she had, anon. Same with most of other chuuba. Unless you are some retard who thinks her audience is actual yakuza like the morons in her general thread.
>Kson doesn't either, not in her zatsudans and SC readings where she gets her money.
Coco/Kson did and that's what brought the audience to her. You think Kson pre-Hololive earned the same amount of superchat/donation or attention as she is now?

>> No.14865055

>>14864859
>who thinks her audience is actual yakuza like the morons in her general thread.
Nobody in the kson thread thinks that, you're just posting random shit now and you did not disprove my point, you're just repeating what people that actually watch her and know japanese said, it's sad and very transparent.
>Coco/Kson did and that's what brought the audience to her.
When did you start watching hololive? 2021 i assume? Newfags like you think Coco got big thanks to her english when in reality she barely used english on her first 6 months in hololive if any at all, her success never had anything to do with her knowing english, she sang a song in english on her debut stream and did 1 english stream with Haachama and Marine who ended up being more JP than EN, that's it.

>> No.14866454

>>14845188
>anything non-seiso is banned
What is the point of watching vtubers when they are just going to act like normal women?

>> No.14867167

>>14866454
But that's literally what helped make them popular. Do you really think they would have blew up like they did if Miko never said "nigga~"?

>> No.14867325

>>14837012
Didn't show feet.

>> No.14867548

>>14842920
https://www.pixivision.net/en/a/4557

>> No.14868135

>>14865055
>Nobody in the kson thread thinks that
Just look at those threads when they aren't just spamming fanarts, anon. More than enough I saw a bunch of chuuni who thinks because her fans spamming Youtube on Twitter to apply for her spam filter somehow equal her fans being yakuza. It's pretty cute, really..
And for how much you claim to know Japanese, you've yet to say what exactly is "interesting" about her stream other than claiming I don't watch her, which I admitted I don't, because they are boring. Feel free to prove the opposite.
>When did you start watching hololive? 2021 i assume? Newfags like you think Coco got big thanks to her english when in reality she barely used english on her first 6 months in hololive if any at all, her success never had anything to do with her knowing english, she sang a song in english on her debut stream and did 1 english stream with Haachama and Marine who ended up being more JP than EN, that's it.
Early-mid 2020, really, Though even back then I never watch her that much, not even during her Asacoco peak. Nevertheless, without her ability to speak English, she wouldn't have draw the same audiences as she is, otherwise, she'd been more famous even before Hololive. There is a reason why her solo streams and non-English are that abysmal and her gimmick back during her Coco and now was her talking about American/English content.
I guess Asacoco was one of her high points, but at the same time, it relied on the content of her colleagues/senpai and her riffing on that and also drew more viewers because of the translated

>> No.14868256

>>14867167
But Miko actually sounds like an Anime Girl and she even pretends to be retarded,
Coco and Mori break my illusion so hard, they remind me to normal twitch streamers, but with a gimmick.
Why even play an RPG if you have no intention of actually Role Playing?

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