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Reminder for anyone new:all Hololive streamers are viewbotted to prop ccv numbers, averages and rankings.
>proof?
Analysis of chat replay data for factors such as messages per second, chat density, superchat frequency and percentage of viewers who have never sent a message in chat suggest that ~67% of any given Hololive streamer's ccv are viewbots. Interestingly enough, this ratio may actually be higher for more popular Hololive streamers and may be additionally boosted for special streams, where a ccv of ~50k has a chat replay typical of a 15k audience. This is likely done to prevent an uncharacteristically low turnout for certain streamers and/or certain 'event' streams, and to keep certain streamers in consistent rankings in view metrics.
>but there's a wide disparity between hololive ccv numbers for individual streamers
It's probable that Cover uses a viewbotting method already used by many Twitch streamers. Each real viewer is matched roughly 2:1 by viewbots, with a dynamically updating rate of viewbots joining the stream. This is effective, organic and doesn't trigger automated moderation nearly as much as other methods of viewbotting. It also means less popular or successful streamers such as Council and ID won't benefit as much from the viewbotting.
>that doesnt sound viable from an economic standpoint
Then you don't understand economics. Cover's control of IP and policy with regard to streamers' merchandise and music production demonstrates their financial risk averseness very well. Moreover, Cover's manipulation of YT algorithm is excellent. There is no reason to put it beyond them to use viewbotting to ensure the best metrics and prevent arbitrary flops.
>Hololive's numbers would still be the best even if these viewbots weren't accounted for
That is very true. However, it's very well documented that fluctuation in ccv, both over the course of a given stream and in long-term averages/medians can cause potentially damaging feedback loops. It's likely Cover wants to minimize this as much as they can, although it won't be completely preventable for certain streamers.
>meds
Data doesn't lie.

>> No.14831938

Pls don't use my Vocaloid oshi to shitpost.

>> No.14831940

>>14831856
ok boomer

>> No.14831968

>>14831856
>suggest that ~67% of any given Hololive streamer's ccv are viewbots
still more than viewers than niji

>> No.14831972

So fucking what?

>> No.14832042

>>14831856
No proof posted = OP is full of shit.
You make plenty of claims, but no hard numbers nor hard evidence. None of your claims are actually backed by anything but your own assertions.

>> No.14832047

>>14831856
>analysis
Now show numbers and evidence instead of some random number anyone can slap on.

>> No.14832053

>>14831968
Arent nijis getting fucked over by youtube? Like everytime anyone does a poll theres a few thousand more voters than stream watchers. Something like adblock or extra tabs not counting as viewers.

>> No.14832129

>>14832053
Same thing happens to Hololive

>> No.14832174

>>14831856
Looking at past data, it's clear that Nijis are so pathetic they can only afford bots for Kuzuha.

But Nijisanji is losing money, so they are paying less and less for bots. The proof of this is Kuzuha's decline in CCV. It's so obvious.

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>>14831856
>>meds
>Data doesn't lie.
Meds don't lie either, now open wide.

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so this is what getting btfoed on /#/ do to your mind huh OP...

>> No.14832275

>>14831856
who fucking chats in youtube chat

>> No.14832759

>>14832275
people with dead dogs

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>the hololive internet defense force is out in full swing trying to shut the thread down
Daily reminder that some villains' motives are in fact at times righteous and completely justifiable.

>> No.14832841

why use her picture?

>> No.14832987

>>14831938
Very based anon. I was gonna post the same.

>> No.14833076

>>14832760
So Nijiniggers are just batmen with the personality of jokers? No wonder you people are subhuman

>> No.14833153

>>14831856
ChinkZhnag, its been a year, your shitty internet efforts to take down cover has not gone anywhere.

>> No.14833223

First this faggot shows no data. Then he assumes most people who watch don’t lurk and actually post something instead of passively consuming. OP is a massive faggot.

>> No.14833296

Holofags immediately talk about nijisanji when someone calls them out, rent fucking free

>> No.14833314

>>14832053
That's normal. Probably most noticeable is after a huge group collabs with everyone with POVs where the views get audited some time later. They usually make up the lost views eventually, if they are popular enough to do so. Probably more fair than twitch which I don't think I've seen any news where they audit views for bots or people mistaken for bots.

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>>14833076
>implying #2232 is any different

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14833324

Go back to work. There aren't enough iPhones for Christmas.

>> No.14833341

>>14831856
You're probably not wrong, but please don't drag my longtime friend Miku into this.

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>>14833341
Green Onion Inc collabed with purple octopus. She's become fair game whether she likes it or not.

>> No.14833393

>>14831856
Stay in your containment thread

>> No.14834171

can bots do super chat ?

>> No.14834396

>>14831856
chat replay are subsampled because otherwise your fucking browser will die. There's no way to get the complete chat log data from youtube. I don't buy your analysis.

>> No.14834811

>>14831856
>Data doesn't lie.
What data?

>>14831856
>There is no reason to put it beyond them to use viewbotting
Ah yes, ass-pull data.

>>14831856
>nalysis of chat replay data for factors such as messages per second, chat density, superchat frequency and percentage of viewers who have never sent a message in chat suggest that ~67% of any given Hololive streamer's ccv are viewbots.

Why 67%? Saying I used data is like having faith.

>>14831856
>It's probable that Cover uses a viewbotting method already used by many Twitch streamers.

Twitch cancer.

>> No.14835082

Man, so many rent free to use here

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>>14831938
FPBP
The legendary Miku is on Hololive's side

>> No.14839327

>>14831856
>voices in my head

>> No.14842842

>>14831856
I'm not gonna read all of that.

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