/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1479420
technical skill? She's pretty decent. lyrical wise its debatable. if you dont listen to most other hip hop you'll get tricked into thinking she's on some real "deep" shit though

"Good" is debatable. Do you like her music? If yes, she's good. If not, she isn't. Form your own opinions for once, Hoss.

>>1479420
Compared to most of the shit that people listen to on the radio? Yes she is great. Compared to rappers people pretend are philosophers, probably below that.

>>1479420
better than current gen rappers, but wouldn't even catch a sideways glance from the OGs

>>1479420
Unironically yes, considering how low the bar is for "good".

>>1479420
she's alright. nothing special. rapping is niche compared to singing, so it seems like she's really good, but there's tons of singers in hololive that are betting at singing than Mori is at rapping, comparatively, if that makes sense

>>1479420
Better than I am.

She's like youtube rapper tier. That stuck in 2010 Hopsin type rap.

>>1479420
>ITT: Antis pretend their /mu/ again.

>>1479420
Didn't we have this same thread almost nine times already, chilean-chama?

>>1479420
best raper

Kanye is the only good rapper so no.

>>1479420
she's alright but I wish she would branch out more, she sounds like she's only ever listened to japanese rap

here's how these threads usually work:
>anti pretends they're /mu/
>actual /mu/ anons descend on threads.
>anti becomes exposed, spergs out artist names like cardi.b to look credible
>anti gets dunked on.
rinse and repeat.

>>1480229
you forgot the step where anti copes and says
>hurrr Calli defense force hurrrrrr

>>1479637
I'm hijack this thread to ask for some good rapper recommendations. The only ones I've heard with any thought put into their lyrics are Shing02 and old Eminem

>>1480430
raps a huge genre so you really have to listen to a bit and see what you like. safe recs are like mf doom, nas, lupe, common. if you want something closer to calli's style look into japanese rap like chelmico, ytr, tophamhat-kyo

>>1479420
I like her.

>>1479420
We'll see when there's another chuuba for her to have a rap battle with.

>>1480430
Kendrick Lamar is fantastic. GKMC, To Pimp a Butterfly and DAMN (try listening to the tracklist backwards) are all great albums.

>>1479420
Not as good as macklemore.
https://youtu.be/2zNSgSzhBfM

>>1480430
you might like aesop rock, try skelethon. freddie gibbs. if you want japanese and something more melodic theres kohh

Iffy. Are we allowed to post her real rap music?

>>1480972
I don't think anyone will care as long as you're not being a weirdo about it

>>1480430
A tribe called quest and Gangstarr are 2 of my favorites

I remember reading many comments around debut saying that she was almost overqualified for this vtuber gig because of how good she was. At the very least I don't think we'll ever see a better rapper in a future EN gen because at that point why would you become a vtuber if you're that good?

>>1480430
I don't listen to a whole lot of rap but here's some tracks you might like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv-XpjCMycw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9oTCzWRuvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tXqw4xKMzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1S7iBjbaAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY6EVDFMvJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1tzF9TPw0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Tl5vf5q3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuXBb4zU1Ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3q_0UP6sck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLfpTn1WAUo

>>1481080
>A tribe called quest
Damn grandpa, the old folks home let you post?
They are good though

>>1481017
Ok. https://youtu.be/m9mK-EtTACM

She's alright

Didnt she admit that she cant freestyle? Isnt that important for a rapper?

anons, is mori down with the clown?

>>1481338
lots of rappers can't freestyle man. it's a skill you have to develop and not everyone has the talent for it

>>1479420
rap = crap

>>1481338
Not really
Being a good at free styling is to rap what being able to play the guitar with your eyes closed is to rock
It's impressive but not all applicable when it comes to music making processes

I'M A LYRICAL MIRACLE SPIRITUAL INDIVIDUAL

>>1479420
she's out of date rapping wise, i can find better people on spot she's not even the best youtube rapper

>>1480430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcWOSgImiRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KTD1u_x-Aw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh4l8FUJlo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyTKsOv7cro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrvN87l3s08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAybGW3DI9Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGWPOcpvs4&list=PLfiMjLyNWxea-PSRRvVsvv80NVRIxO5o7&index=12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DxaM8RHZzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ8eO5l6sI4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzoJX0QCbbY

there's a mix anon I'm sure something will catch your eye

>>1479420
She's decent overall, I would say she's suprisingly good for a vtuber/youtuber.

Did the man who invented college go to college?
Hm ok den.

>>1481316

Wow. That's her? At least she's consistent with her music. Also, heh Karen. What a joke.

hip hop and rap scene is full of retards who are trying to play opression olypmics with how bad they grew up and how proud they are of starting crimes at 6 years old. The irony is that most of them are now privilieged rich snobs that fail at being a decent human being and dont see responsibility in being a role model for people as unfortunate as them instead they encourage them to live a life of crime and get lucky making mixtapes on soundcloud.

>>1480430
I really like Billy Woods
https://youtu.be/83F4JpVu61k?t=16

>>1483804
True which is why Bladee is the greatest rapper alive.

>>1479420
I don't know, but I like her roommate's music.

>>1480229
They not wrong.

>>1480255
They also not wrong.

I think the music she made before Mori was a lot better especially production-wise

>>1479420
she is good at raping me

>>1479420
She's decent-tier imo
Nothing more, nothing less

>>1485077
I don't know about production-wise (she's mentioned she's so busy now that she has to get other people to do the production side for her, which may be the reason), but I think a major difference between the two is that her current work she's had to make it from the point of view of her character. It shows in her debut EPs, which she's obviously still trying to feel out the character. Then Cursed Night and Off With Their Heads shes gotten more comfortable with herself and the character. Can't wait to hear her new EP, can only imagine her work will only improve as time goes on.

I'm no real fan of rap though, so other than her work the only rap I've listened to a lot is the "Peace in Death" album by Nine Leaves. So can't actually judge how she is compared to the rest of the industry.

>>1479420
She isn't EMINEM but she can hold up on her own

>>1487276
this isn't 2000 eminem is shit anon fucking hell these threads is filled with fucking trash boomer opinions.

>>1480430
For me, it's ill mind of Hopsin 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRVOOwFNp5U

>>1479420

Not as good as her roommate, but she’s getting there

Is there any non-pozzed rap?
Kinda like what Negative XP is for punk, would be cool to see some stuff that isn't either vapid ghetto shit or leftist filth.

>>1481338
No, it's not important. Many rappers who can freestyle can't make good music or write good lyrics, and vice versa.

>>1481316
I got banned for posting a 'Kiara's former personality' video where she explained IRL what she thought about the ground pound incident. I didn't think it was a negative post but it seems linking the vtuber to an IRL image might be one of the vague lines not to be crossed on this board...at least to some jannies?

>>1480430
All you ever need is the B.I.G.

>>1479420
She literally got blacked like 300 times, of course she’s good at rapping

>>1479420
Absolutely not.

>>1481316
The timing, flow, and lyrics are fucking horrible.

>>1480972
no

>>1485292
I think technically her Mori songs are just as good as her past work, they just feel less inspired and flexible. Old work let her talk about anything, and she used it well enough to give her music a voice. But I'm not sure if her Mori stuff will be flexible. Cursed Night gives me hope.

>>1492015
You want Japanese rap. Look up Shing02 or Chelmico

>>1494334
>But I'm not sure if her Mori stuff will be flexible. Cursed Night gives me hope.
I'm sure it will be, but like I said the majority of her existing work is made pre-debut, back when she thought everyone would hate her character and she'd top out at 300k subs at most. She's changed a lot since then and gotten more comfortable weaving her IRL self into the character. However some of the stuff she made songs about would absolutely be nixed by management for obvious reasons.

People need to stop directly posting previous history stuff in these threads though. Sure, her forbidden knowledge is an open secret, but take that shit to /mu/ or something.

>>1492015
Reevaluate the life choices that led to you asking this question, anon.

>>1479420
Yes, but she doesn't have much time for it.

>>1485077
>>1485292
>>1494334
>>1494427
Retardo, her best pre-Mori shit was a concept album about THAT character. Alkatraz was peak DD. She has the potential to hit that same high.

>>1479420
She's good at brapping

>>1479420
>Is she actually good at rapping?
Sure but her roommate is even better.

>>1485099
>>1480162
>she isn't very good at raping
>raping
>be a young japanese student
>our english teacher is a foreigner
>she's 10/10 smoking hot but incredibly cringey trying to be relatable and hip with us
>feel bad for her since shes hard working and just trying to make learning fun, but the students tease her a lot
>read online that in the west it's normal to give your teacher a red apple as a sign of gratitude
>sneak into her classroom before anyone else is in
>put a red apple on her desk
>"Yo little guy is that a red apple?! Yooo shout out to my man over here anon for the FAT aka apple!"
>heart jumps out of my chest, fall over in surprise and fear
>my teacher is suddenly at the door, which i could've sworn i had closed
>"Can't thank you enough, dude, this is totally 'poggers' as they say."
>what is she fucking talking about
>i want to leave but she's blocking the only exit
>"Let 'your boy' give you a thank you toot man!"
>a what
>"Big ups to anon-chan over here!!"
>she walks up to me
>she's incredibly fast, covers the distance in seconds
>i'm cornered
>one of her hands pins down both my wrists, the other starts pulling up my uniform shirt
>i'm scared and confused so i start crying
>"It's fine it's fine it's fine it's fine..."
>i don't know if she's talking to me or herself
>she starts fondling my chest and kissing my neck
>can't help but moan, even if i know it's wrong
>"That moan was 'hountou sekushi' my guy!"
>pray that someone walks in and stops her
>she drops to her knees and starts fiddling with my pants
>pulls them down, i feel so ashamed at how hard i am
>she pulls out a recorder from her skirt and plays a painful note on it
>i'm pretty sure that's school property
>puts the end of the recorder on the tip of my dick
>"Thank you! toot
>cum instantly

>>1479420
No.

>>1487948
>is filled with fucking trash boomer opinions
>listening modern rap

>>1494888
trips of truth

>>1495589
I checked the fucking archive for a dumb fart joke.

>>1495684

>>1480430
Here are my favorite modern artists
>Mach Hommy
>DOOM
>Earl Sweatshirt
>Quelle Chris
>Ivan Ave
>Your Old Droog
>Roc Marciano
>Freddie Gibbs
>Westside Gunn
>Fly Anakin
>Chester Watson
>Jeremiah Jae
>Cavalier
>Boldy James
>Homeboy Sandman
>Estee Nack
>Al Divino
>KA
>smino
And some albums
>Roc Marciano -Rosebudd's Revenge
>Ivan Ave - Helping Hands
Ivan is a funny guy because he's norweigan but grew up listening to American rap, so he can only speak English with a new york accent.
>Mach Hommy - Wap Kon Jojj
>Quelle Chris - Innocent Country 2
I found out recently that the producer on here, Chris Keys, is a friend of Taylor Eigsti's. Pretty cool that he's got ties to the NY jazz scene.
>smino - blkswn, NØIR
Smino has a really distinct flow, and the producer Monte Booker is really great too.
>Alchemist - Yacht Rock 2
This album features some of the rappers on the list.
Mori is alright, but she's not really bringing anything new. I hope she figures out how to use trillian and omnisphere because you can make some really insane stuff with that. Sam Gellaitrys album Viewfinder uses only omnisphere presets, if you need an idea.

>>1480430
Whoever recommends you Playboi Carti or any fag from Emo rap or Mumble rap, is a faggot.

There are plenty good artists in modern rap but you should go first to the old times. Go to the popular ones like 2Pac, Biggie, Snoop Dogg (avoid at all cost any album post-Tha Last Meal), any member of the Wu-Tang Clan (good solo projects they have), Mobb Deep, Nas, or even MF DOOM.

If want to go deeper you can go the south with, Outkast, The Geto Boys, Scarface, UGK, etc. Maybe including D.J. Screw but he only slows the music.

Going all the way you can find Memphis with, Skinny Pimp, Blackout, Triple Six Mafia, D.J. Sound, D.J Fela, Dirty Red & Lil Bay, Doom Shop (The original one, not the faggots that make phonk), Criminal Mafia, D.J. Zirk & D.J. Squeeky, Lil Grim & the Children Of The Corn.

If you feel like going full autistic, you can go in two ways, G-Funk (rare albums that go all around the U.S.) or Horrorcore (avoiding anything post-2008). These two parts aren't my thing but it might be yours.

If you feel like Modern rap is your thing just go with Kendrick Lamar (even thought he's dead), modern Eminem (I heard he's doing good projects, hopefully those words weren't written by a stan), or you can also check anything produced by Madlib. That's about it

>>1480189
Ye is up there, but not the only one.
>>1480701
adding J.I.D, J. cole, KOTA the friend, smino, and earthgang to the recommended list.

>>1479420
She's decent at best, but it's not like the skill ceiling in Japanese hip hop is very high so she can manage to do alright.

>>1480430
joyner lucas, ces cru, king iso
dababy is on the way up if you want something more coon-y

>>1480430
Like the other anon said, it's a big genre so it's impossible to know what you'll like before you start listening so it's better to cast a wide net at first and see what you like.
Here's some good albums:
De La Soul - De La Soul is Dead
Nas - Illmatic
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange
Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid m.A.A.d. City
Kanye West - Late Registration
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Gangstarr - Moment of Truth
Eric B & Rakim - Don't Sweat the Technique
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Outkast - Stankonia
Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous

>>1497960
>Gangstarr - Moment of Truth
If only there weren't this many annoying stupid-ass skits

>>1495119
>"Can't thank you enough, dude, this is totally 'poggers' as they say."
Damn I can fucking hear her saying that.

I'm not a rap expert but I feel like her flow is really meh, however her lyrics are great (aside from "Murder is so fucking kawaii")

>>1498011
Yeah I fucking hate skits too, worst fucking "tradition" in hip hop. Except in that De La Soul album I mentioned where they sometimes bleed into the music in a cool way.

>>1498011
>>1498039
It does get annoying at some degree, I prefer silencing them with the music player I use or I just skip them. Sometimes the song is blended with a intro skit and that's where I fucking hate it completely

>>1498034
>rhymes "complicated" with "complicated"
Moririn...

>>1498702
There is literally nothing wrong with that.
https://medium.com/@anygiventues/top-five-rappers-who-rhyme-a-word-with-itself-bbc1ee500ece

>>1498781
>rapniggers have zero standards
shocking truth.chaika

>>1480877
>memlemore
no

>>1497960
This is a pretty good beginners guide to hiphop desu. Add in 2001 by Dr Dre for some west coast foundational stuff and youd get a decent picture of hiphop

The Japanese rap scene is so small as to be insignificant and she’s barely making it in the lowest tier of that.

Calli is alright. I think her flow can be stilted at times and her lyrics arent anything to write home about. Off With Their Heads was pretty good and she needs to keep that kind of energy to get better. Her slower more melodic stuff is pretty decent as well and can be a unique quirk about her if developed properly.

>>1498702
She could have easily used any other word. The point was to repeat it in order to drive the point home as if she was talking directly to you instead of through music.

>>1497960
>>1497548
Nice posts lads

>>1492015
Negative XP is fucking garbage

>>1480430
I like Cities Aviv, People under Stairs, Lustsick Puppy and clipping

this is also a good rap song but it's not by a rap group though
https://youtu.be/j938Xr38k08

>>1479420
Yeah she rape me tonight

>>1480051
Only post itt that I'm convinced was written by somebody who listens to rap music.

>>1497548
>any fag from Emo rap or Mumble rap, is a faggot.
this is true nigger rap old style is best

>>1481746
are there any decent rappers from Youtube, because most of the YT rappers I've heard use the same, lame "baby's first" rap style

>>1480104
>their

>>1498702
repeating words isn't the worst and can be used for emphesis, what I hate is when rappers fail to rhyme with a word ending in "it".

>>1498034
>aside from "Murder is so fucking kawaii"
That actually is my favorite part, entire song peaks there, imo.

>>1499750
most would say joji but for me only scarlxrd is decent. I don't like most youtuber rappers since they feel fake.

>>1498702
time too give anon an aneurism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cJWBRl2uzA

>>1500818
This, it's her best line.

>>1480195
that's a good thing though

>>1498702
It's fairly common to repeat words, MCing and Toasting where it originated were fairly heavy on repeating words and if you look into genres adjacent to that, like jungle and grime (not that Stormzy faux brit hip hop shit) people often string 8 to 16 bar sections together using a single word as a punchline.

>>1479420
She does alright.

>>1502220
I hate everything about this

>>1498789
>ESL retard doesn't understand how double entendres work
Shocking indeed!

>>1498034
>rhyming tanoshii with kawaii
that's the most basic scheme imaginable

>>1479420
I don't like her serious music, but her bread rap and shadowverse rap writing streams were legit the most fun I've had watching HoloEN

>>1479420
not as good as papa franku

>rapping
>good

>>1479420
I don't really listen to rap, so I don't know.

Some of her verses are very weak, production wise she's pretty good for a one woman work.

>>1479420
>Is she actually good at brapping?
ftfy

>>1505326
she doesn't do production, kokorobeats does it for her

>>1479420
why would you ever ask people for their /mu/nigger opinions

She only has two songs that are listenable

On a technical level, better than average

ITT: People discuss corporate vtuber rap instead of her roommate, decide she sucks.

>>1504101
this.

>>1505974
we know the roommate shit isn't any better though

>>1506146
Eh, I really enjoy it. It's a bit youtube but it's a nice mix of feels and tongue in cheek. Kakigori Galaxy Astronaut is a really solid EP IMO. Hazy Skyscraper and Soundless are both great tracks and significantly different in style and delivery.

>>1479420
Meaningless question, all rap is shit.

>>1507018
Spoken like someone with an opinion.

>>1479420
Alkatraz was her peak, but that of course came with a fleshed out character and whatnot. However, even Alkatraz is decent at best. Her rapping style is so... Hopsin-ish with J-rap mixed in. She also can't escape the "lyrical miracle spiritual" style of writing. Overall, I'll give her a 6.5 to 7/10. It gets the job done I guess :/

I like her some of her stuff but I'm no rap expert. I tried listening to Kendrick Lamar, which js supposed to oje od the best things in the genre and i dont get it, maybe rap It's just not for me. It doesn't help that when you try to criticize it people call you racist (i mean i kind of am, but still you know), but i really like r&b, so it can't just be my general prejudices.

>>1508097
It's kind of weird that the whole "lyrical miracle spiritual" came from filthy frank who then went on to become famous for what are pretty surface level sad songs like slowly dancing in the dark, i mean even the phrase slowly dancing in the dark sounds like something a sad middle class teem post on their social media and thinks its super deep. So i feel the whole thing is a little throwing stones ij glass houses from filthy frank. Also nothing wrong with staying with jrap style. It feels like if you were to criticize Pearl Jam for never making country music.

>>1479420
yes, she's a great WRITER, her raps are technically quite good. Lyric choice and music however? Lyrics can be cringe at time (murder is so fucking KAWAII... ugh... cringe just fucking cringe). The instruments in her beats are often poor too. I know she likes "unique" accompanying instruments to "be different" but sometimes "being different" is a huge detriment. If she had more customary taste in accompanying instruments some of her baselines would be straight fire.

Rhyming Skills: S
Music Writing Skills: B+
Lyric Writing Skills: B-
Voice: C

Overall Rapping Skills: B+; her best skills are the rhyming schemes and techniques she uses which are off the chart advanced which more then covers up her mediocre voice and average lyric and music choices. I think if you got her an actual music producer she'd probably be able to sell legit albums without the hololive gimmick, and if you made her a writer she'd be a star in the business.

>>1487948
Fuck you Eminem is still good

I don't give a shit about rap
Heads off and Live Again are her only good songs

>>1479420
Women rappers are usually shit. She's good for a chick.

>>1479420
She is quite good technically and she can go quite fast. But her Calli persona borrows a bit much from Eminem. DD is softer and it makes her feel a lot more unique.

She doesn't need to be good, just better than other vtubers

>>1511334
That was exceedingly generous.

Lyric writing: D
Rhythm/Timing: F
Flow: F
Voice: C-
Mixing/Production: D

>>1513397
Name an S for each of these categories. No repeat mentions.

>>1494334
TAKUMA THE GREAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfzBDzghJ2M

I'm hoping MIRI does more solo stuff too because I loved Rhymeberry but don't really care for Wagamama Rakia even if I'm glad she's having success with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNBA99P1p_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6VFk5-gFW0

>>1498034
Honestly the worst part about her is her delivery. Confidence and how you deliver things is a huge part of rap and unfortunately she just kind of sounds like Eazy-E with better flow and none of the swagger.

>>1508208
Start with some of the bigger names from the 80s like Kool Moe Dee, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, KRS-ONE (and Boogie Down Productions) and Eric B & Rakim and go from there. Don't listen to shit like Kendrick Lamar.

Me as that fag that only listens to death grips

>>1499750
>baby's first" rap style
What would that be?

>>1480051
/thread

>ITT: /mu/ larpers.

>>1515404
who needs to LARP about listening to music?
also fuck /mu/

I would like to listen more to rap, but most of the stuff that I find are made by blaqs singing how about they dindu noffin

>>1515467
>music is subjective
>but because I'm an anti, my opinion should matter!
/thread.

>>1515404
>/mu/-Wahh Wahhh My high School Girlfriend Left Me And 15 Years Later Im Still Sad Discussions Also Music

>>1515521
You have Joey Bada$$, Flatbush Zombies and the general beastcoast groups who just rap about doing a lot of drugs instead. Blacks have a very limited world view, hence their music, finding the hidden gems is part of the fun.

>>1494334
newfag here whos mori’s roommate? she’s my favorite holo so i wanna listen to her old stuff and know more about her

>>1517311
Just Google kokorobeats and you should find her easily

>>1517311
You're looking for a satanic cube.

>>1479420
>Is she actually good at Brapping?
ftfy OP

And yes, yes she is.

>>1511334
You're the type that thinks an internal rhyme is the height of genius

>>1517311
asking for dox is not advised

>>1480051
Please, she's nowhere near as bottom of the barrel as Hopsin

Alright /vt/, teach me how to rap like Mori. I know basically nothing about rap except for her music but I like the lyrics and how it's said, it's like poetry but with music. How can one learn this power?

>>1517534
i was just looking for the music and maybe what she streamed before being mori would that make me a “doxxbeat” or is that something way different

>>1517599
rap is just limericks set to a beat

>>1517958
There once was a nigga from Venus
Who had a big black penis

I love her concept but her rapping so far fucking sucks, dead beats being her only decent track. Hopefully she'll really make something worthwhile in the future.

>>1514747
>Honestly the worst part about her is her delivery. Confidence and how you deliver things is a huge part of rap and unfortunately she just kind of sounds like Eazy-E with better flow and none of the swagger.
THIS 100%. The truth is mori just doesnt have charisma when she raps. absolutely shit delivery and "swag". It's why everyone here likes her singing way better

I like the peko rap

>>1479858
who are the ogs?

>>1519667
Eminem

>>1519737
if Eminem is so great how come his mom didn't like him?

>>1479420
She's kinda naive and bad at it, which makes her music somewhat charming. You can't accuse her of not being authentic, at least. But without her Hololive persona she most likely wouldn't have gotten any real traction with her music. So, I guess it works out for her. I'm glad she left her early roommate's attitude behind and doesn't post stupid stuff on Twitter anymore.

>>1519789
She doesn't appreciate talent when she hears it

>>1519369
peko rap is peak soul

>>1518135
I liked Mountain Top and Cursed Night. I think she is only getting better anon.

She should link up with spotemgottem

>>1519853
i really liked the direction the t3 sample she showed us was going. Basically i have faith as long as shes mostly carried by a good producer, like k's

>>1519908
Good producers are the unsung heroes of the music industry.

>>1479637
What are good examples of real deep shit though?

>>1519929
Always, no good musician can do without great mixing, finishing and polishing.

I know there are some haters on here for her new producer but I honestly like 80% of it

>>1519995
I really like Cursed Nights lyrics, I know the hook is "I'm not well" but I think it does paint a story of a foreigner in a land she doesn't really know, and it's difficult especially with her having to break ties with someone she really looked up to growing up browsing /jp/. Having to move forward with complete strangers who are supposed to be her best friends, and I hope they have at the very least became friends.

sorry looks like the weather is clearing up.

>>1480051
She does the internet rapper thing where she'll sometimes randomly go into double time, and it irks me. Like damn you had a flow going why'd you fuck it up

>>1520122
I was just kinda thinking it has a tinge of like early 2010's. Like Wolfgang and YT rappers. I'd honestly love to see her do some vocals on a japanese metal band or collab with Babymetal (if they are still around) I just don't want her to get typecast as wigger / eminem or do some deathgrips shit.

99% of j-rap is cringe translated to english, and same vice versa. I wonder if mori realizes this yet. It sounds good mainly because its different and foreign

>>1517311
Literally lurk for one thread

>>1520051
Appreciate the input but I meant supposedly deep songs by other artists that the anon before was implying. Not sure if its too OT but it got me curious what even qualifies for that tag.

>>1520634
you'd have to ask him, I honestly don't know if deep to him is tech n9ne, wakka, mc-ride, kanye, or NWA, lyrics are in the eye of the beholder.

If you want some fun hip-hop to listen to I like Das-Rascist - Rappin 2 U, A good chunk of Kendrick, some Gambino, maybe a tidbit of Tyler, and a good helping of Wu-Tang.

>>1520634
you can't look at the artist that were literally just recommended like 10 posts in? Aesop rock alone goes pretty "deep" with his lyrics. Death Grips is cryptic and memed to death but their shit would qualify too I'd say. In the end its still subjective and up to the person listening to determine the depth though. Most artist don't just spell out the meanings of their songs even something that sounds super simple to you can have multiple hidden meanings. I think Cursed Night and Live Again are "deep" but its mostly because of the association with her past self. If it makes you think its deep. If you have to look up and review lyrics its deep. That's my definition at least

>>1520717
i'd add also that deep music is different than rap that's just socially conscious (see hopsin, tribe called quest, a lot of mori's songs that critize current hip hop trends etc)

>>1480104
>discussing the same like 10 albums for years
>implying anyone would want to pretend theyre /mu/

>>1517599
Watch the movie 8 Mile

>>1515521
Well there is Tribe Called Quest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QWEPdgS3As

>>1515300
"speak fast and aggressive, have little to no variation in rhythm or melody"

Damn the mods really destroyed like half the thread

She comes off as aggressively stupid, not smart enough to see her own shortcomings, and quick to lash out at anyone trying to help her due to resentment, ego, and the above.

>>1517599
listen to eminem nonstop

According to people who rap she's pretty good on a technical level. It's usually her choice of beats they have a problem with. I'm sure most people who are on the fence about her would change their tune if she rapped on a trap beat. I personally enjoy her use of unconventional beats though.

>>1500962
I dont get this it just sounds like hes having a tantrum into a mic

not really no. she does have enthusiasm and willingness to work to improve though.

>>1519789
He vomited her spaghetti

>>1527135
she is tho. my opinion > your opinion

>>1519789
she knew what he'd turn into

>>1500962
>scarlxrd
He just seems like he's trying and failing to do an MC Ride impression.

>>1527983
He always was a nigger-lovin' leftie though.

>>1481338
it's not 1980 anymore anonkun

>>1492015
>negative xp

>>1515404
Yeah because only people from /mu/ ever listen to music

>>1479420
She is good at rapping, but the music that's behind it is highly questionable.

>>1526221
>not smart enough to see her own shortcomings
Well you are wrong because she does see her shortcomings.

>>1502220
>brappa the rapper

>>1480195
When she was on that podcast she listed mainly english rappers like eminem, snoop etc etc.

>>1481338
freestyling is hard as fuck unless by freestyle you mean "remembering lines you came up with a while ago and haven't used yet"

>>1498702
rhymes "hypocrites" with "super-callous-fragile-ego expedites the dope shit"
Moririn!

>>1481716
Based politikz poster

>>1499622
Did it hurt?

>>1479420


Is she actually good at raping?

>>1526246
Where would you recommend starting?

>>1540222
Marshal Mathers LP, then

>>1519789
He's from Detroit, everyone's parents are fucked up around there. Aside from very, very specific areas that are filled with hipsters that work at Quicken Loans, the entire residential area of the city is in shambles and you'd need to be mentally ill or an extremely frugal single guy that isn't afraid to use Michigan's castle doctrine to protect his home to want to live there.

>>1481208
She did say she only audition for fun, she didnt really think ahead of whats gonna happen next so...

>>1484736
Who's her roommate?

women can't be good at anything

>>1481208
She might have been good but it's not like she was signed to a label or something, so it's not really possible to say she's overqualified. There's an endless amount of soundcloud rappers out there that will never get their break. It's pretty rare for them to be women, but women rappers aren't super popular to begin with.

>>1503382
you cant do better anyway, beisdes her japanese language is just decent cant expect her to be good at knowing both language

>>1517472
just admit she's better at words than you would ever be, Style and kyle aint it

>>1540477
>t. turbo incel
You will never feel female touch.

>>1520717
its only deep if you associate yourself with the song or have feel the same way as the lyrics implied and the many more emotions a single line can hold perfectly describes what you are feeling

and them knowing her backstory is just the icing on the cak

>>1481208
One thing people forget is that Hololive would rather hire girls with undeveloped talents, who actually need support from fans, because it makes for a better story. It also just creates a positive culture where the company and fans all feel useful, and no one gets overshadowed by a new hire.

>>1511379
On a technical level, sure.

>>1480051
this anon gets it