/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>fucking faggots
I mean, it is /nasfagg/...

>>14588688

>>14588688
>Double 88

>>14588999
>>14588966
>>14589022

>>14589098
>board's too slow

Keep it about the money.

>>14589149
Alright. Then, let's pose a question: where do we even go from here, as players? Are there any strategies yet left unexplored, or are we condemned to a lifetime of crabbing and relying on dividends more and more as coin volume goes up while profits from swing-trading stay constant?

>>14589149
Post wallet

>>14589391
suck off a top player for money

>>14589457

>>14589391
>>12681442
Consider the multicoin

>>14589565
Is it time for the monthly multicoin debate in which we come to the conclusion that Honk is a jew and he should buff multicoin?

>>14589734
buff multisell, multibuy is fine

>>14589391
nobody got rich off indog coins so far who even knows if it's viable to agressively buy more of underbought coins

>>14589734
remove the initial 5% tax, reduce the multibuy tax to 5% per coin, make it go up to 10, and make multisell tax 2.5%, with the same cap of 10

>>14589770
If you're 500th maybe it's fine, yeah
If not, can you not see the game's stagnation? The static positions? The lack of control? The lack of input?

>>14589779
I will never buy more than 50 indogs, they are shitcoin prime

>>14589835
how does this image make you feel

>WU
>Forgot that GF stream is at 9
>She delayed it by just an hour
Time to enjoy and forget about the last thread. Also buying more oshi coin.

>>14589835
>He has no idea

>>14589825
multisell is shit compared to multibuy in usability, there is a use for multibuy currently, not really multisell

>>14589859
I'm literally shaking rn
moona is fine, she has actually made me money, the other indogs need to burn

>>14589933
let me just say mep has a peculiar position on the bubbles graph almost daily for a good reason

>>14589565
>>14589821
On one hand, I agree that there has to be some kind of a high risk-high reward mechanic in place. Something you could put a lot of your wealth into, and win or lose it all.
That being said, I'm not sure if multicoin is the right idea here. If you remove the taxes and buff it to 10x or more, it'll solve the problem but only temporarily. As wealth amasses, people will be forced to rely on dividends once again.
Additionally, I see a lot of people that still are making mistakes when assessing multicoin viability, meaning that it's not 'solved' yet, or at least not commonly.
>>14589919
That is true. Multibuy can still be viable, be it for large drops or long-term positions. I think I witnessed a situation where 2x multisell would have been profitable exactly once, and even then the smarter thing to do would be to hold the coin and sell slowly.
>>14589825
This just boils down to huge amount of coin volume with very low profit marigins from either dividends or swing trading. If someone plays okay-ish and you play perfectly (not implying I do, far from it), you will have minimal edge over them. The wealth gaps are so large right now that it's nigh impossible to rise that way... which defeats the point of the game and leads to people seeking alternate goals (oshiboards, real oshiboards, hats, supers, item collecting, coin amount goals etc.).

>>14589919
Both should receive absurd buffs
Yes, multibuy is much more sensible than multisell in almost all cases. Neither are powerful enough to mimic the rate of player input in the early game (which made it fun), though. We need some fucking CRAZY BIG numbers

>>14590052
Oh yeah, mep is an undervalued coin. Her dividends aren't anything special technically, but somehow her price is very low and when she's on a discount, her returns rival secondary metacoins.

>>14590068
if you wanted that dynamic back multibuy would have to be in the 1000s and 10.000s
>>14590097
I don't buy her daily but her divvies are quite stable for such low value, and right now she throws what 9%? which is nice with an average of 7.5%
Compared to before the last divvies nerf it's ~13% vs. the average of ~10%

>>14590061
>>14590068
i'd be favor of a multisell buff way sooner than a multibuy buff. multisell is functionally useless.

>>14590061
>If you remove the taxes and buff it to 10x or more, it'll solve the problem but only temporarily
It would not be impossible to have it scale with net coin volume, would it? In my mind it is ENTIRELY feasible to introduce such a mechanic, but then again I'm retarded.
You weren't there in the early game, you don't know how fun it was making stupid fucking mistakes or becoming silly rich from a day's actions. It was a better time, the peak which we can reach again!

>>14590157
I was thinking moreso in the hundreds, I don't mean the first day's scale of input. Moreso the first couple months, I think that's reasonable

>>14590174
I'm not sure we can, if you pick the number too high only top [two digit number] can participate, too low and it'll be stagnation in the upper ranks as well.
But seeing as even 700 coins begin to not be that much at all, yeah, I agree

Where's the reset shill when you need him?

>>14590264
Sleeping. Cut him some slack.

>>14590264
It's late in SEA, might've gone to sleep.

>>14590264
I am not your dog 4chinner.

I don't know how, but I'm sure holonations will fix this

>>14590174
I know how it feels, roughly, since that's how the early game looks like. I regret missing out on the early days though, when it could have put you on the top overnight, though...
Either way, I think there has to be a high risk-high reward mechanic. Shorting, or especially options fit the bill. Multicoin would be a wrong mechanic to rework for this purpose, I think, even if multisell clearly needs a buff.

>>14590061
What exactly do you expect to come out of this discussion? The initial question was
>where do we even go from here, as players?
yet we are timelooping again
>>14590235
>if you pick the number too high only top [two digit number] can participate

>>14590358

>>14590372
I must respectfully disagree with you, I don't want anything too crazy or complicated. I just want the same sort of player input that we had in those golden days. It worked, it can work again. All we need is a proper scaling mechanic.
>>14590235
It's not like it'll remain the same scale when put in place forever, if it's unfair on some then it can be changed. Trial and error are gonna be key if the devs go forwards with this

>>14590425
She hasn't cosplayed in a while, which is a shame.

>>14590425
Please don't post that in response to 3DPD

>>14590527
but tummy, don't be a fag

>>14590397
I expected some kind of a money discussion at least. We haven't reached armchair devs timeloop discussion tier yet, so I'm content.
>>14590475
Shorting and options aren't that complicated, and if they had very high investment cap/no cap on it, it'd provide the player input you want. There's also the 'easy' fix of upping volatility across the board, adjustment volatility and player-driven volatility, but that's also just a temporary solution.

>>14590569
I'm up for shorting and options, but I'd prefer things to stay reasonably the same. The game worked well enough
That fixes almost nothing, you will still have hopelessly large positions in many coins so long as you have a half-decent net worth

>>14590425
Why there is so much towa cosplay sex, someone make a sex gura or rushia cosplay

>>14590660
Towa has a good amount of female fans on top of really well designed outfits by rurudo

>>14590644
Large positions themselves are okay, I think. The issue now is that a) there isn't that big of a difference in coin dividends, so it's harder to edge out other players, b) there isn't that big of a difference in buying/selling prices at adjustments, which, again, makes it harder to edge out other players even if you hypothetically made better trades than them. Volatility increase increases the portion of money made by swing-trading, which is a lot more active and differentiating than dividends into which players are basically forced to rely on in the late-game.

>>14590569
>I expected some kind of a money discussion at least
Well, about a month ago I ran some simulations and found the optimal strategy to be just buying whatever people are buying and selling what people are selling at any given moment. Which makes sense, since it's how I climbed the leaderboard, but it was nice seeing it confirmed. Sadly, all the other strategies I could think of were outperformed by this simple heuristic. Maybe I'm just too stupid and can't come up with anything efficient, who knows?

>>14590769
There is one thing left unexplored as far as I know, but it's a pandora's box... I'll take it over a stagnating market, though.

>>14590826
The only thing left is adding dms so that I can send dickpics to my neighbours

>>14590759
That's fundamentally a problem with how the game currently works. There's not much >we as players can do...

>>14590895
Consider auctions or superchats.

>>14590759
I believe there's also a purely psychological aspect to having these large positions. Seeing the green and red %s on your profile every day used to be an indicator of your day's performance, NOT your stacks' value changes. It should tell you how you're doing day-to-day, how good your trades were. Instead, it's just subject to the wave that is the economy. It doesn't feel as good, simply put. It doesn't actually impact your performance, but it sure as hell makes you a bit more miserable. Not sure if I said it in the post I linked, but I feel like I'm drifting in an ocean without any control. PERCEIVED control is half of what's important here, I feel like I'm not doing anything at all and am helpless (right now I'm actually doing very little due to stagnation, but you should get my point)

>>14590769
Well if enough people all do the right thing at the right time then of course that's going to work.

>>14590983
Oh, of course not. But we need to also bring those issues to the devs so they know what needs to be fixed. They are working on shorting right now, at least, but a slight rework/adjustment on volatility or multisell would be a quick fix and would push a little more life into the market.
>>14591059
I get it. I used to hold an 18 day streak of green, pushing it through the first bogration. I felt like I made it, like I was on the top of the world even though it wasn't long after I started.
Now? I'm just trying to edge out others ever so slightly in my strategy, but my individual leaderboard position no longer matters to me due to the auctions. I acknowledge that my net worth shouldn't be compared to the net worth of others due to that fact, even though I think I have some pretty good sheets/models going on.

>>14591059
What you said is also a reason why in the middle of the bogration 90% of the playerbase was about to abayo,not like now it's much different

Christmas broker lottery will save the game

>>14591070
But isn't that a problem in itself? How come everyone is doing >the right thing at the right time, every single time? Shouldn't it be a bit harder?
You could say it's because the game is already solved, but I'd argue it's what the deadbeat is saying. It's not that everyone is doing the right thing, but rather it being harder to edge out other players even if you hypothetically made better trades than them. (You)r decisions don't matter. you may as well follow the herd.

>>14591270
It turns out buy red sell green is always right so even the herd nail it. There'll be some dip/peaks that aren't worth selling and some multicoins that are more optimal but as you say, the edge from those is negligible at these net worths.

reset schizo the thread is in a perfect state for you please do your job

>>14591270
you don't win, you just lose less than others

>>14591333
I know for a fact people STILL make multicoin mistakes. Even people who have autotrading sheets. People STILL end up with 2000 shares of Ayame and other shitcoins that can't be reasonably explained by anything else than just buying the dip, despite the fact that they cannot sell it during daytrading nor hold it for dividends.
It's just that the punishment for such mistakes is minimal, spread over time, or completely negligible compared to just making the same trades you can see in the activity tab.

>>14591166
Making it felt good, and we can make it again. Through multicoin
>>14591168
Exactly, although bogration came from good intentions, it wasn't exactly a success. Or rather, it wasn't what was necessary. It's like plugging a ship's leak with lego bricks - it might do the job but it's annoying because it hurts your foot [That was a fucking stupid analogy, but it should make sense
>>14591270
It's gonna sound like nostalgia, but 'back in my day' you could buy some coins as soon as an announcement was made and be done with your position for tomorrow within a few hours. You would absolutely BTFO anybody who 1. got the news late and 2. relied on poi (these particular people would get uber BTFO'd). There was a reward for doing your reps which put you above the herd, but you can't get that reward now because we have so many coins that it doesn't even matter. Therefore radical multicoin scaling is necessary, since we can build those positions quickly (and sell quickly enough to make major gains). THAT is how you make the game competitive again (at least, not at a snail's pace)

>>14591426
>People STILL end up with 2000 shares of Ayame that can't be reasonably explained by anything else than just buying the dip
She's cute

>gayposting
>medieval fubuki abayo nice job
>multicoin timeloop
I don't think I want to nasfaqg today. Anyways, here's Wonderwall
>>14590381

>>14591607
>true loli players
bread...

>>14591607
>faggot post
>average market
>playing hate
>cute hand next

>>14591607
>menhera schizo heimin
hnnnnggh need

>>14591607
>triangle wrong retarded
sasuga

>>14589399
Bold words for somebody that's probably going to repost Cypher's wallet.

>>14589779
I got decently rich off of NNN, and Indogs are good passive income for lower-level players. I think they're fine as-is.

>>14590694
I don't want to ruin discussions about the game so I'll make it quick. Towa's outfit is pretty easy to cosplay, probably one of the easiest in all of hololive, on top of being well designed and fashionable. >>14591607
I mean, the deadbeat somehow got the dividend for jp6 almost right. Maybe we can talk about that?

>>14591775
>only 282 maririn, 662 mori
>7200 choco
>3500+ aki
>3440 mel
>2843 sana
>2500 civia
I was going to say "DO YOU HATE MONEY" then I realized this is BBB. Carry on, you magnificent bastard. Not any of those anons.

>>14589779
>nobody got rich off indog coins so far

>>14591775
>600 Towa
stop that

>>14591264
i will take an item gift exchange but that’s just auctions

>>14591840
I'll be the first to admit that "almost right" isn't "right". It was a bit of smoke divination, plus the dividends I actually predicted were the dividends we "lost", the ones from the first week, meaning that there is also no way to verify them.

>>14591607
>hot roboco
true

>>14587108
don't

>>14591926
Why don't you ask me why I'm buying Towa, anon.
Surely the almighty genius that is BBB will deign to give you a scrap of secret knowledge.

>>14592159
Is it because of all the towa cosplay that have been posted lately? Most of them are kinda small honestly

>>14592210
IT'S BECAUSE THE RUG'S BLONDE AHAHAHAHA

>>14592210
No, it's because she keeps going down and the Gen 4 anniversary is coming up.

>>14592159
If you know something about Towa that I don't already know besides basic daytrading of her, I'd be impressed. There's maybe two things I can think of but past that I can't imagine what you are thinking of that you need that much for.
>>14592231
I do not understand this post.

It's because BBB works for cover and knows the Towa is getting blonde hair in her next outfit

>>14592271
SANTA CHOCO KNOWS THE CARPET DOES NOT MATCH THE DRAPES

>>14592261
144 shares of Towa explained. Now explain the remaining 456.

>>14592325
>He thinks Towa will only be profitable for one day.
Big spikes can't be moved enough for one day's trades, even if people go 5x.

>>14592324
Are you saying towa's bush is blonde?

>>14592325
Consider how much the price is going to increase in the days before the event, the secondary views from the day after, etc

>>14592411
rurudo doesn't draw blondes frequently
>>14592325
>>14592411
Ah, that's what you think, but Towa will end up delaying it for 2 more months like last time for her live band.

>>14592453
I meant to tag >>14592320, whoops

>>14592411
>>14592443
I doubt that price change is significant enough to buy her right now, locking into holding a large position of Towa for three weeks.

>>14592491
Money's not doing anything else right now. May as well earn me some dividends while I camp other coins.

>>14592411
Of course they can, the view differential the second day does all the work for you resetting it

>>14591475
another point you could make is about site usage
the devs said a while ago about server side traders that it would make the site used less. if we go back to being able to trade in that degree based on announcements, the site will be used a lot more. everything will work better if we can trade this quickly again, no?
I hope the devs have the guts to pull of this change

>>14592600
>towa dividends
https://streamable.com/y40em0

>>14592638
So long as the site doesn't shit itself from overusage, yes that would be another advantage of what I proposed

>>14592658
Keep in mind that I almost exclusively buy 1x and I make most of my plays a month or two in advance.
I will admit freely that my long-term investing may be TOO long-term, but my playstyle is mostly about endurance, not fishing for jackpots. I wouldn't be in fucking blondes if I wanted to make money. I'm here to have fun and profit how I can off of it.

fuck

>>14592778
forgot to write more than just >fuck
at a certain point, multicoin buying a coin that you already have a fat stack of even though it's not going to pay you any big fat dividends or go green tomorrow korone in this case is inherently profitable because it inflates your net value more quickly.

>>14592770
That's true, you do go overboard with long term especially buying Towa 1-2 months ago for the events that may arise, especially since she hasn't been streaming much recently due to recording and lessons, making her price lower than what it was probably months ago with Tower's multibuying.

>>14592778
>multisell
What the fuck, Tampa.

>>14592838
>Buy $10,000 worth of $KORO (x5 in this hypothetical)
>Pay $5,500 in taxes
>Spend a total of $15,500 to increase your net worth by $10,000.
Explain this one to me like I'm retarded. By all rights it doesn't make any sense.

>>14592858
>tower
Man I miss that twink, hope he's doing good.

>>14592892
Kronii is an ubershitcoin and I want to liquidate my stack. I only 1x buy Holo and Gura, and I buy them often. Opportunity cost? I won't 2x sell all day.
>>14592899
I didn't 5x Mr. Koro, I 2x-ed. Why entertain hypothetical numbers that don't apply? Also you missed the point entirely
>have 12k maririn
>buy 1 maririn
>maririn share price increases by $1
>net worth goes up by $12k and I have a coin
Same thing people were doing with pumping Coco.

>>14592986
He'll be fine as long as Russia doesn't do stupid shit in the next year. Kenzoku always come back, hell even Lime sensei came back for a little bit and drew some Twap on his break weekend.

>>14593004
Your networth includes your liquid, though. Multicoining is taking a hit to your networth in order to buy faster and potentially profit more long-term.

>>14593070
You're still not getting it.
When your stack is large enough, the actual act of buying 2x vs 1x makes your net worth increase more quickly. And depending on volatility, it is enough to offset the "debt" you incur from the 2x tax, and sometimes even 3x. cypher's stack sizes might be worth exploring for a lot of coins he multi-buys.

>>14593147
Not BBB, but do you want me to calculate how many shares of Marine you'd need to have in order for 2x to offset the cost of taxes? This of course completely ignores overbought, which renders this strategy dead on arrival.

>>14593436
Be my guest. She's green today though, I'm sellin.
>overbought
Yes, look at how stronk overbought is!

>2x sell on holo and gura

another example of "overbought"
It hardly does anything. Both Kanata and Towa were overbought. Not even -$100.

>>14593620
Triggering overbought is optimal as it makes Towa cheaper.

>>14593620
>>14593547
Overbought is too weak to do anything; Kanata didn't even drop 3%.
The other problem is that making Overbought/Oversold strong as they need to be to deal with value inflation will just create Volume Inflation, which we ALREADY have problems with.

>>14593879
>Don't Trade Club
kek. I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

>>14593955
It's literally just the coins that adjusted less than 5%. Unless you know what you're doing, you should avoid trading them as they haven't moved significantly enough from the previous value to make up for the taxes.
Realistically, I should probably include the value from Friday because of dividends.

>>14591775
with 45k coins you got rich of a lot of things but NNN was a droplet in the pond

ohhhh konnui

>>14594027
you'd probably want to compare vs. the previous day's adjustment price for "day-trading" purposes, or ideally, the average of yesterday + today's adjustment price. ignoring any multi-buys or tax in general, that would give you an average for a hypothetical 144 coins bought over the past 24 hours. Kanata "adjusted down 3%" - except she didn't, she was $5000 yesterday morning.

>>14593004
>Kronii is an ubershitcoin and I want to liquidate my stack.
>3203
GAS GAS GAS ON THE BOOBACOINS

>>14594252
That's one of the reasons why I was stacking her up. I'd have to stack a fuck ton of Kronii, Noel, and Sana to make up for HOW THEY GIMPED MY GIRL. fuckin smoothbrains filling out the survey and treerrat only kept it open for less than 12 hours, with most burgers and yuros asleep or waging

>>14594312
Maybe she should just have larger breasts.

Good morning, I am buying Towa.

>>14179194
>ayamy 0.66
fuckin trainwreck
>>14594363
they're massive

>>14594363
the husky voice of booba irrelevancy is speaking, apparently it's time to listen

>>14594384
Based as always

>>14594394
Cope

>>14593547
>he's not aware
Please, look at the general trends of coins over time lately and tell me if overbought is doing something or not. Protip: it is. It works the way it's intended.
>>14593547
$0.544, $0.59, $0.520, $0.600, $0.544. By observing Marine for a while and knowing that the price updates every 16 transactions (with a little variance due to rounding/multicoin transactions, I presume, plus assuming that it means '16 global transactions' rather than transactions of the same coin), this is the impact of a single sell on the price.
Assuming a single buy would move the market in the same way, taking the average volatility per transaction as $0.56 and the price of Marine at 20k, you'd need 16072 shares of Marine to 'offset' the net worth lost on tax. That's presuming that volatility is linear (it isn't, it scales with volume and market trends). That being said, Kanata wasn't overbought that much at all yesterday, if you know how that mechanic functions.

>>14594384
bread love!

>>14594384
Thanks as always.
>>14594394
Not big enough apparently.
>>14594400
Towa is massive, I don't know what you're talking about. :^)

Say it with me, towa is as flat as a pancake

>>14594384
now this is cool mr. toast

>>14594561
https://streamable.com/00oykw

Christmas polka is made for sex

>>14594384
Bread love, another good collage
I will kill Joe for this insult, what the hell

>>14594207
I don't think there's a perfect metric to determine good daytrades. For example, comparing yesterday's numbers to today's, Baelz looks like a good deal. However, anybody with a brain and the ability to open up her channel has the context of that being a big day for her. Right now, Baelz isn't even up 1% from last week.
This sort of model has its own pitfalls, though. It makes Pekora look like she's on the high of her life, or Fauna like she's on a pretty decent discount.
If anybody has a "perfect" model that doesn't need context, it's probably cypher, and we know he doesn't because his thinkpad is buying weirdo shit that doesn't even make sense.

>>14594678
Very true!

>>14594384
sʎɐʍlɐ sɐ ǝʇisinbxǝ

>>14594829
did you really have to do this?

>>14595966
Do you even have to ask?

>>14594384
That's a very nice Rushicrab.

>>14594384
Why can bread buy towa but I can't?

>>14596051
if your oshi has collabed recently with towa you get a 3 day period from that collab to buy if you really desire to buy towa

>>14595996
I kinda know the answer, but I want to be sure

>>14596111

My training arc starts with me destroying some nyaggers.

>>14596390

>>14596390
>pinfu riichi with serviceable discards
Yeah... I think Heimin will make it.

>>14596390
At a certain time of day the players get drastically better, watch out for that

Majsoul Friends Room 78681(4-Player East): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=78681
if anyone wants to play east

>>14594394
Listen Drey, I know you just compiled the vote, the issue is people are apparently fucking BLIND
- Shuba and Ui have more or less the same sizes
- Shuba is definitely bigger than Luna
- Iofi is bigger than Luna
- Marine is NOT bigger than Miko
- Haato is NOT as big as Watame
- Watame is fucking HUGE, the L2D hides it quite well but look at the stage outfit
- Ame is DEFINITELY bigger than 0.63 and mogs both Mio, Mikochi and arguably Maririn
- Okayu is not Polka-tier
- Aqua is definitely not mogging Akiroze and Akiroze is in no reality under 0.5

I could go on for hours
Democracy means power to the people
But the people are stupid

>>14596629
*typo: Marine is NOT SMALLER than Miko

>>14596603
may as well play a game or two

>>14596666
holy digits. was about to start screaming at you
part of the problem is a lot of people most assuredly have never watched some holos especially JPs and likely use shitty off-model fan art as a frame of reference
also am not drey

>>14596731
I know Tampa, but complaining about the list is indirectly shitting on Drey so I mentioned him and linked your post to join in the complaint

>>14596629
Chiming in here to remind people that certain bad actors fucked up the vote on purpose by putting their oshi at the top.
If you really loved your oshi, you'd be fine with her having not the biggest breasts and would accept that. Fake Kenzoku should abayo.

>>14596889
THE KENZOKU ARE FUCKING CHEATING

>>14596629
Not Drey, but
Ui is flat.
Idol outfits are known to buff some chuubas more than others, Aki doesn't look massive in her base outfit, looks big in her alt ones, and her idol costumes, it's too finnicky.
Art, even official, is a bad metric because many change depending on which one you look at.
Alt outfits are toss-up if you want to accept them or not, Ame is big but I think the new outfit kicks it into overdrive.
>>14596889
I've never really said Towa has large breasts or did my poll really rate her like that, I just mean she isn't as small as she is made out to be.
>>14596923
14163563 was mine for reference if you want to bitch.

>>14597005
The ranking also doesn't really reflect the scale in size changes either which is the issue with it in the first place. A lot of the top 25 on mine are just very big and then it drops off into Towa/Fubuki sizes

>>14597005

>>14596629
Ame is definetely bigger than 0.63 and her new outfit did not buff her at all, she should be higher

>>14593147
>>14594475
Marine's adjusting down ~42¢ every sell, let's assume the number is the same for buys.
At her current price of $30.8k you need to have
3670 for x1
18348 for x2
25687 for x3
33026 for x4
40365 for x5
and Tupac has 12311.
Now, at yesterday's price of $21.7k and going up ~49¢ every buy, the values would be
2223, 11114, 15559, 20004 and 24450.

But this is assuming you're the only person buying the coin, so Tupac is probably right. Yesterday, the coin was going up $19.6 per cycle. You do the math

>>14597005
>>14597183
lmao

>>14597276
Portraits used in the sorter was the one with jacket on, the last time I saw her without jacket was months ago, but I'll admit I'm wrong about Ame.

>>14596629
compressed it a bit

>>14597322
>Portraits used in the sorter was the one with jacket on
Might as well just say she is a cunny at that point

>>14597468
My list was 14163563, by no means I think she's cunny lmao. The issue is the fact that the scoring doesn't relfect the actual size differences between the chuubas, especially on the larger end, and some on the lower end.

>>14596603
That was a good game that ended in a furiten tsumo on the last 4-man. I've gotta go since my stomach is beginning to grumble, and I play like crap when I'm hungry.

>>14596603
one seat is now open
>>14597253
>spoiler
bingo.

>>14597551
been trying to cure my allergy to yaku and avoiding terminal tiles by going for more menzenchin hands.

>>14597253
>spoiler
This is utterly irrelevant because coin prices only rise slightly in the long term because of overbought. Value "added" by player transactions is brought down at the adjustments, scaled with how far from calculated adjustment price the adjustment is.
This is also the reason why this consideration doesn't work for any coin other than Civia.

>>14597641
note, I originally said it makes your net worth go up more quickly. nothing more. if your fattest stack dips hard and you aren't 2x-ing or more, you miss out.
$19.6 * 12311...
plus, it's not like marine's divs are bad.

>>14597718
I knew my 3x Towa was justified

>>14597718
And yet, you are still losing money in taxes by the next adjustment, since either the coin would have been brought to that value or would have trended downwards. That being said, I do often multicoin my fattest stacks since they are good coins and I've determined them to be worth it.
You have to consider the opportunity cost, though, of buying a different coin without the increased tax.

>>14597793
>You have to consider the opportunity cost, though, of buying a different coin without the increased tax.
that's the problem though, it's not like I'm buying 2 or 3x marine or mori or any other metacoin instead of something else. emphasis on instead. I'm already buying everything that dips.

>>14597832
I no longer believe in "dips". I smoked so much crack that my vision has shrunk to a level where I only see current price.

>>14596603
One seat left, join in anons

Anybody...? Still need a fourth

>>14598570

Sup faggots, KoroneSuki is back. Why is the mikofag still garbage at the game? Holy shit, just delete your account. Reset the game so i can start playing again and shit on all of you.

>>14599491
>Leave because you act retarded and it doesn't play out
>Come back and act retarded
>Expect it to play out
I don't give a fuck who you are. You're worthless with that attitude.

>>14599558

you very well know who wrote both of those

>>14599637
You first. I didn't run away when I made retarded decisions.

I burnt my tonkatsu and my rice is so sticky I suspect it's gained sentience.

>>14599491
>>14599558
>>14599637
>>14599705
I honestly can't tell which one of you is the biggest retard. Probably the one replying to bait. Possibly me for replying to retards.

>>14599920
It's all a work.

>>14599491
who?

One spot opens
>>14596603

>>14599875
konkonkon you fucking giganyagger

>>14600591
let me pee and I'll join for one or two hanchan

Friendship ended with Towa bibi, MJS bibi is new best friend

>>14600630

>>14600669
You're missing out on this

>>14600599
That ain't me. I ain't no senator's son.

just so you know I wasn't bluffing

A network

>>14596603
Congratz on the yakuman

thought it would be a cheap hon-itsu to be perfectly honest since I already threw 2 winds

>>14601149
all whores

>>14601135
wtf

>>14601149
>Iroha
Lmao

>>14601135
welcome to the shousuushi club

ggs bros gotta go sleep now, wörk wörk

>>14601151
I should've lost that hand twice over, lmao.
>>14600919
brainfart
>>14602884
amazing games

>>14602884
thanks for joining us

>>14602884
ggs, sleep well

Majsoul Friends Room 78681(4-Player East): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=78681
one seat open at the council of hags

>>14603001
>C*co
>Ch*nese game

btw i can count the times I dragged an East out to South fucking 4 on one hand

New room, switching to South, 4p, 5+20s.
https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=29772

Sora

I heard this is the easiest thread to bait on this board. Nijisanji EN is miles better than whatever the fuck Council is even doing. Sana is the biggest holofailure, imagine being less relevant than an indog, lucky for Sana she doesn't have to imagine.

WELCOME -- TO HOUR NINETEEN
HOUR NINETEEN...
THE... NINETEENTH HOUR
IT'S NOT THE SEVENTEENTH HOUR
IT'S NOT THE... NINTH HOUR
IT'S HOUR NINETEEN
ONE... NINE...
A VERY... SPECIAL HOUR
IN THAT, HOUR NINETEEN, IS THE NINETEENTH HOUR, NOT... ANY OTHER HOUR
VERY FEW HOURS CAN CLAIM TO BE THE NINETEENTH HOUR
THIS HOUR... IS ONE OF THOSE HOURS
AND AS WE SIT HERE, ENJOYING THIS HOUR, THE NINETEENTH HOUR, LET'S SPARE A MOMENT, TO THINK OF THOSE HOURS THAT AREN'T QUITE THE NINETEENTH HOUR
HOUR EIGHTEEN... AND HOUR TWENTY

WELCOME TO THE NINETEENTH HOUR!

>>14605478
I'm a seanigger btw, excuse my poor English skills.

you'll probably get more by making actual threads or in /#/ or /hlgg/

>>14605478
>the easiest thread to bait
Rude

>>14605478
Sir this is the mahjong soul general

>>14605521
>>14605478
>19:00:02
THIS IS YOUR FAULT

>>14605585
kek

>>14605521
>19:00:02

>>14605521
>19:00:02

>>14605600
good, fuck hour nineteen

Sorry, bro, you gotta use special bait here.

MPP MATTERS.
THE HAATONS DID NOTHING WRONG OTHER THAN CODE LIKE PIGS
HUNTERS/WARLOCKS > TITANS
GURA IS A SHIT INVESTMENT
BUY TOWA

>>14605735

TOMATO LOVE

Is there a full version of the hour nineteen bgm or something?

>>14605786
I'LL FUCKING SKIN YOU ALIVE

Slapping Nene's ass until they turn bright red like a tomato...

>>14605521
>19:00:02
Shameful display

Complimenting Nenechi on her culinary taste, making her blush bright red like a tomato
AAAAAAAAAAA

I have never fucked 7 pairs up so bad before.
>>14605521
>19:00:02

>>14605521
>19:00:02

>>14596629
>Democracy means power to the people
>But the people are stupid

I can only work with the votes I receive. I didn't 'stop the vote,' but ran out of votes to count. The numbers were released early because; they were already similar to the results from last time and interest in the vote was low.

>>14597095
The awards were never meant to reflect the actual booba size. If you wish this then ask every girl for their bra cup size.

I am mostly fine with the numbers as they are. On the other hand, there are a few coins I am concerned about (Irys in particular). Below is every coin's change in booba score from last time to this time (except JP6). I am not worried but the mama coin's scores since I did those manually last time.

irys 0.14
mel 0.09
roboco 0.08
sora 0.07
watame 0.07
nene 0.07
pochimaru 0.06
reine 0.06
polka 0.05
flare 0.05
fauna 0.05
baelz 0.04
himemoriluna 0.04
iofi 0.04
okayu 0.04
amelia 0.03
noel 0.03
choco 0.02
korone 0.02
inanis 0.02
shion 0.02
risu 0.02
aqua 0.01
mio 0.01
pekora 0.01
botan 0.01
sana 0.01
moona 0.01
melfissa 0.01
lamy 0.01
fubuki 0
matsuri 0
coco 0
kronii 0
suisei -0.01
ayamy -0.01
nachoneko -0.01
aki -0.02
haato -0.02
ayame -0.02
calliope -0.02
civia -0.02
azki -0.03
mumei -0.03
hololive -0.03
subaru -0.03
kiara -0.03
towa -0.04
rushia -0.04
gura -0.04
kanata -0.05
ollie -0.07
nana -0.08
miko -0.1
marine -0.1
nabi -0.18
ui -0.21

>>14606750
>The awards were never meant to reflect the actual booba size.
ogey

amazing games, thanks for playing with me

Majsoul Friends Room 48451(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=48451
One Spot Open
>>14605835
It is as you hear it.
https://soundcloud.com/user-237406180/reminder
>>14606750
>The awards were never meant to reflect the actual booba size.
>posting the inferior version
ogey

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.

Here's the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total Shares in circulation amount to 7,676,142, a 0.86% increase from yesterday's volume
>Average shares per coin is 123,809. There are 26 coins above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest volume, at 493,423 shares, or 6.43% of market volume.
>Pochimaru currently has the lowest volume, at 23,386 shares, or 0.3% of market volume.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 41):
>Chloe & Koyori :: +7.6%
>Laplus :: +6.5%
>Ayame :: +6.2%
>Kanata :: +5.6%
>Lui & Mumei :: +5.3%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 21):
>Nachoneko :: -4.1%
>HLuna :: -2%
>Kronii :: -1.9%
>Sora :: -1.8%
>Ina'nis :: -1.6%

1 coin (Flare) had a net 0% change in volume today. Imagine crabbing after a 2.0 reveal.
24 other coins had a sub-1% change in volume today.


Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $139,688.38, which is an increase of 0.48% from yesterday's estimate.
>Total Market Value for today is $141,180,810,771.71, which is an increase of 5.87% from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average Value per Share is $18,392.16. A total of 11 coins are above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest value, at $17,338,489,481.60 in total market value, or 12.28% of market value.
>Pochimaru currently has the lowest value, at $132,576,169.44 in total market value, or 0.09% of market value.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 28):
>Kronii :: +65.3%
>Flare :: +43.4%
>Calliope :: +35.1%
>Kanata :: +33.3%
>Hololive :: +30.8%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 34):
>Amelia :: -39.6%
>Kiara :: -33.6%
>Fubuki :: -32.2%
>Noel :: -30.7%
>Matsuri :: -26.6%

19 coins had a sub-5% change in value today.


Here's the F.R.E.E. report for today:
>Today's Superchats totaled to $71,640,008, which is a decrease of 48.42% from yesterday's Superchats.
>The Broker made $166,403,693.98 today, an increase of 8.78% from yesterday's salary.

Top 10 Superchat Increases (of 21):
>Aki :: +5.2%
>Ayamy :: +3.6%
>Ayame :: +3.5%
>Civia :: +3.3%
>Marine :: +2.4%
>Haato :: +2.1%
>IRyS :: +1.7%
>Watame :: +1.6%
>Nene :: +1.5%
>Gura :: +1.4%

41 coins did not receive any Superchats today.


Here's the M.O.V.E. Report for today:
>2 coins (Suisei, Miko) adjusted green, but are still trending upwards.
>3 coins (Luna, Nabi, Pochimaru) adjusted red, but are still trending downwards.
>7 coins (Chloe, Kanata, Towa, Lui, Nene, Fauna, Laplus) adjusted red, but are now above their pre-adjustment value.
>2 coins (Coco, Okayu) adjusted green, but are now below their pre-adjustment value.
>46 coins are on projected trend lines and have not intersected with their pre-adjustment values.

Top 5 Most Volatile Coins (per Cycle Average):
>Fubuki :: $44.41 Up
>Gura :: $38.31 Down
>Amelia :: $37.09 Up
>Kronii :: $36.50 Down
>Hololive :: $35.64 Down

Top 5 Least Volatile Coins (per Cycle Average):
>Pochimaru :: $0.02 Down
>Nabi :: $0.13 Down
>Nana :: $0.15 Up
>Coco :: $0.56 Down
>Nachoneko :: $0.59 Down

The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge needs your help! If you have records of dividend payouts from 11/20, 11/27, or 12/4, please jettison it my way posthaste. I need it for SECRET PROJECT.

Oh, also the Numbers Review Archive has a rolling 7-day average now. This number is not stored day-to-day, so it should not increase load. I am also gradually archiving the older calculations so the load should be gradually reduced as time goes on. If you're on a phone or a potato PC, please use the "Benchmark" column on the M.O.V.E. Data page, as it is the same value.

>>14607111
>The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge needs your help! If you have records of dividend payouts from 11/20, 11/27, or 12/4, please jettison it my way posthaste. I need it for SECRET PROJECT.
I post them in the thread and have been for some time but they're usually cropped to the top few. If you can link me to the crossposts where I posted the images, I will match them to the "full" dividends from the copied wallet analyzers I save I fucked the naming scheme up and can't tell if the date in the sheet name is for the day the dividends were paid out, or the day I copied it to preserve the record.

There's an API call to get all the past dividends, or at least there used to be.

>>14607276
I'm 45% sure it only calls the most recent Dividends, not past weeks'.

>>14607111
oh, also checked
>>13290847
11/20
>>13653255
11/27
Just find 12/4. I'll match them to the appropriate sheet while I wait for someone to join MJS

>>14607111
Done.

Hello!
I come with a useless report for you!

Here are the holders of ranks 20, 50, 100, and 250 and those immediately above and below them!

Remember that you cannot declare a ron if any one of your winning tiles is in your discards! This is called being in a furiten. You can still win with a tsumo, given that you have a valid set of tiles for a victory! Keep an eye on your discards when playing!

>>14601149
is there another network?

>>14605521
Warning: Large Image Ahead
Good evening, welcome to the News Hour. This is your NASFAQ Market Report for Monday, December 13th

Sure is quiet tonight.

>>14614203
Watching my Priestess teach bae how to draw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnX6LW-payQ

>>14607739
>top 50 starts at $1b
Honk, when are you going to start slashing some 0s

>>14615277
the great NASFAQ economy squish

>you can unnyagger MJS
if you're a monster.
washizu mute. riichi BGM mute. peace at last.

>>14616603
How could you mute best girl Washizu?

>>14617949

Free at last, time to finally do my reps for Sio.

LIVE

>>14624546
no.

>>14605735
>HUNTERS/WARLOCKS > TITANS
Is it really still worth playing? I stopped before December and I dont know if all the new stuff is really that worth it. also >paying for a dungeon ffs bungie you greedy bastards
I hope you trip on wet paint.

for those interested in a mjg tournament (with prize pool) sometime this christmas break, i drew up a quick draft of what it might look like and would like some feed back https://forms.gle/xUndD5H6gYNwsmx97

>>14624742
Except for G-Horn, all of the new stuff worth having in the 30th Event is F2P. The Halo-themed weapons are all the good ones, and they're all free drops from the F2P 6-man mission. The only thing P2Ps get is the dungeon, some streetwear cosmetics, G-Horn (which is in the dungeon), and a very small jump start on grinding the F2P mission (You still have to do 69 runs for the Magnum's catalyst).
It is a pretty well-designed dungeon, though. Not sure if I believe it's worth $25, but I don't feel like it was a waste and the F2P stuff is also really good.
I think if you quit because you were burned out, come back and play a few rounds. If you still feel burned out, don't feel bad about taking a break until Witch Queen in Feburary. If you left because of dumb balance decisions, come back and fuck around with some stuff. The 30th came with a massive balance sweep to how abilities and supers work cooldown-wise.
If you quit because of PvP then only come back if you want to relive the Halo glory days, because right now Crucible is Magnum & Battle Rifle spam featuring half of an energy sword. They even made ARMOR LOCK, BITCH an F2P emote.

>>14625486
>and they're all free drops from the F2P 6-man mission.
>this shit was f2p
>>>>>>>half a fucking energy sword
fuck. guess im playing again.

>>14625703
>FF-XIV doesn't even fucking work, but Holos get permissions
>Even though Ina's a confirmed D2 player nobody's asked Bungo for the permissions
Maybe for Witch Queen.

I just dragged East 4 out for 5 extra games with bullshit like tsumo on the 2nd to last turn, no yaku tenpai draw, 1000 pt single yaku rons, and more. Pretty sure they all wanted to kill me.

>>14627143
yep, no doubt there.

>>14625217
I still dont know how to play Chinese dominoes. Gomen

>>14625703
>>14625486
Fucking hell, the one day I'm too tired for vidya, the nasfaggots start talking about destiny.

>>14627369
its not too late to learn

>>14627543
Will I get laid if I do?

>>14625217
what qualifies as "proficient experience" in this context
I know how to play but I'm not a seasoned professional like some of the people here

>>14627602
No

>>14627609
basically anyone who has played a good amount of mahjong before the /nasfaqg/ arc, if this is the format we go with i would most likely just place my trust in everyone to not sign up in the newer players bracket, you should be able to get a good gauge of your skills if you have played in any of the friendlies throughout the past couple weeks and if not, i'm sure we will continue to run friendlies throughout the next couple weeks
off the top of my head the only people who would not qualify for the newer player bracket are triangle and mikofag

>>14627861
and ashork

>>14627861
**not sign up in the newer players bracket if they are an experienced player

>>14627861
dunno if Anemachi and Roboco will attend (I'll ask them) but both of them do have 1+ years under their belt

also the spreadsheet I promised, I guess I'll just set up a new one. The good ones I have are usually team tourneys or singles with a variant we played, never vanilla.

Just take the damn jeb you piece of shit

>>14627602
Mahjong might not have gotten me laid, but it basically got me a stable group of friends.
>>14627861
Triangle, Mikofag, yfp, xylo, ashork, Hoguchi, would qualify for the 'experienced players' bracket. Maybe there are more, like Anemachi or Roboco.

14:28 time for the daily bowel movement, I wonder if I can make it in time for the scheduled math.rand() re-evaluation of the digital imaginary market I follow.

>>14627846
>>14632575
I don't want friends, I want pussies.

>>14634524
where the fuck do you think etc.

>>14634420
I like the joke in this image. Based Koyori.

>>14634695
it's such a classic

ohhhh i need to take a shit

>>14634695
>>14634728
Explain nerds

Market closed
>Captcha GAAHH

>-19.4%
ngmi

>>14634524
Approach a girl and start talking about mahjong. Maybe you'll get laid if you show her your knowledge of mahjong

GUH

post 'em

>>14635209
The hand is a suuankou tanki, a double yakuman worth at least 64000 points. The characters mistakenly name it as a tanyao iipekou, which is worth at least 2000 points, the difference in those two hands being just the arrangement of tiles.

>>14635209
>>14635386
they don't even mention the iipeikou in fact.

>down 2 places.
ngmi

>>14584666
>>14584938
You love to see it

>>14635499
why did the line going up change

>>14635551
I probably forgot to F5 before posting it

>>14635499
oh nyo

>300k+ per cycle
oh nyoo...

>>14635499
nyo....

>>14635499
such is the life of a metacoin hoarder

>>14635499
quite a hit

>>14636027

Like a glint from the blue, here's a quick Morning Review.

Top 3 Upwards Adjustments (of 11)
>Ayame :: $7,381.76
>Fubuki :: $6,643.98
>Watame :: $2,105.42

Top 3 Downwards Adjustments (of 50)
>Calliope :: -$16,849.74
>Pekora :: -$12,264.98
>Hololive :: -$11,737.22

Overall Average Adjustment is -$1,527.15
Average Upward Adjustment is $1,992.79
Average Downward Adjustment is -$2,301.53

Don't get baited by bad deals, keep an eye on your zhonkbot, and see you in 10 hours.

>>14634524
Bitches ain't shit nigga

>>14635499
>Made $20m daytrading yesterday
>About to spend $30m buying more
It's all so tiresome.

>>14634524
become^become^1 m̸̳̪̄̑̚ă̸͚̰̭͊͝h̵̹̩͙̓̑j̶̣͒͊͜͜o̶̢̟̘̊̎̚n̴̯͌g̵͈͓̈́

>>14637376
I will NOT play mahjong.

>>14637578
You WILL play mahjong and you WILL like it

>>14588821
>that inner thigh pinch
my serm thank you for their freedom

Good morning, I am buying Towa.

>>14638185
That cosplayer doesn't do much Towa cosplay, a lot of Choco though.

fuck

hell lewdreviewer, i was hoping our one sided rivalry would be more eventful but you seemed to have dropped 150m in one day? did you try to gacha abayo your account?
I only ask cause i wanted to one day overtake you on the leaderboard legitmately

*hello

>>14639377
i can't tell who this is and i'm scared

>>14639377
hi

anyone baking bread?

>>14639568
I got it

>>14639568
Me

>>14639765
thanks
was going to screenshot susan scoring penuldies
>>14639779
now kiss

>>14639779
You go for it, I have a dogshit recycled bread from a few months ago that I was gonna use

>>14639790
That's gay anon...

>>14639879
that has never stopped this thread

>>14639790

>>14639915
fucking kino

Oh yea, here Tupac, I was meaning to post this when I found the Towa cosplayer a bit ago.
https://twitter.com/konkon6927/status/1465917777974202372
https://twitter.com/konkon6927/status/1466405656206852102
I'm not sure if you like cosplay, but I thought it was good.

>>14639976
TAIWAN NUMBA WAN

>>14640022
>>14640022
>>14640022
Sorry, forgot to put the title

>>14640068
it's dangerous to go alone, take these
there's other stuff in mikofag's MEGA in the op if you want to just slap it on art you like

>>14640136
not only that, that op has been done before with the text