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>>14581295General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR
Can Miko surpass Iroha with Elite Four buff.
>>14581295What in the holy frying hell? Broooo delete that shit....NOW
>>14581295Use search next time >>14580800
>>14581295lol they do this all the time, it's called cosmetics
>>14581295?
OH NO NO NO NO >NIP ANONS WILL DEFEND THIS!!APOLOGIZE FOR NANKING, NIPS!(if you don't you are racist!)Btw, very ironically this is numbers related
OH NO NO NO NO>NIP ANONS WILL DEFEND THIS!!APOLOGIZE FOR NANKING, NIPS!(if you don't you are racist!)Btw, very ironically this is numbers related
>Google Trends anon got real silent after seeing thisWELL ANONS!?Btw, numberfagging Google Trends is legit from this point on!
Soon
>midnight fishing>still 25k
So what's the daily top looking like?
nijisanjiCN confirmed
>>14590490Almost Hololive dominance. If only Kanata didn't debuff Marine...
>>14588655
>>14588734
https://twitter.com/DimensionLabels/status/1470317582053830656Wonder how much will this one sell compared to the previous one (3236 copies)
Nijifans aren't only shit to other fans, but to the chuubas too. Chat was a fucking shitfest back when Edengumi first debuted, reprimanding them for even the slightest thing that could be considered "bad manners" towards their senpai.
>>14581295this reminded me of Artia's roommate for some reason kek
>>14591172Can you convert that to numbers pls?
>>14591172Based. Holobronies are pussies who can only circle jerk each other on their little hugbox
>>14587199>>14587343I still can't believe there are people who don't know what asian smartphone filters do
>>14581295Matuli...
Not sure if it was already discussed there but you can actually see graphs for the streams at vrabi if you click on a stream's thumbnail. Might be useful if you decide to look up that for non-holo stuff for some reason.
>>14590753its all hololive top 10, vrabi just wasnt able to catch it but marine barely got over that top 10 niji
>>14591592That's not what I was confused about.
>>14591114I see Rene, but there are also hololive and hololive affiliated whores, so pass
>>14581295neat
Is Selen average higher than Sana's this month. We can already wrap it up for Sana since she's going to take another break.
>>14591172If you hate nijis so much why are you watching their streams?
>>14599824she is coming back before holidays if i recall.The break right now is becasue her house is being remodeled
>>14599824If Sana did like...one interesting thing the whole month, or even just played Minecraft, she'd have a higher average. Will that happen? Probably not since she took another vacation and will likely only stream a few times before the end of the year. It could still happen if there's a Council collab on her channel though. Not much Selen can do to raise her average since she's kind of hardstuck at 3k.
>>14581295This cured my yellow fever
>>14600000Czech'd
>>14600000
>>14600000Digits of truth...
>>14581295Is this a joke video? Obviously filters are real but this video isn't. You can tell in the first one when the last girl is doing her hip sway, on the hair flip she does a little bounce that doesn't happen on the filtered video, unless the filters are so good they not only change the face but their bodies as well.
Miko, Chloe, and Subaru will overtake Peko this month. She really is on a downward spiral
>>14590753So Kiara is debuffed by her genmates, naruhodo.
not like this nijibros...
>>14601197Nah, the filters are real. Here's the app / a similar app in progress: https://youtu.be/2EtSLFHwSpMHere's another video: https://youtu.be/T6-4AytmSocThe Chinese have made great progress with AI.
It's so inspirational seeing how Iroha went from being a literal 2view to now currently the fastest growing vtuber in Japan thanks to YAGOO.
From last thread >streams per range of peak CCV, December 1 to 13.Hololive JP (382 streams, 34 streamers)>0-9999: 131 streams>10000-19999: 115 streams>20000-29999: 67 streams>30000-39999: 40 streams>40000+: 29 streamsNijisanji JP (642 streams, 95 streamers)>0-9999: 589 streams>10000-19999: 39 streams>20000-29999: 8 streams>30000-39999: 4 streams>40000+: 2 streamsNijisanji EN (96 streams, 10 streamers)>0-9999: 96 streams>10000-19999: 0 streams>20000-29999: 0 streams>30000-39999: 0 streams>40000+: 0 streamsHololive EN (90 streams, 11 streamers)>0-9999: 56 streams>10000-19999: 22 streams>20000-29999: 6 streams>30000-39999: 0 streams>40000+: 6 streamsHololive ID (45 streams, 6 streamers)>0-9999: 43 streams>10000-19999: 2 streams>20000-29999: 0 streams>30000-39999: 0 streams>40000+: 0 streamsNijisanji ID (118 streams, 17 streamers)>0-9999: 118 streams>10000-19999: 0 streams>20000-29999: 0 streams>30000-39999: 0 streams>40000+: 0 streamsNijisanji KR (108 streams, 18 streamers)>0-9999: 108 streams>10000-19999: 0 streams>20000-29999: 0 streams>30000-39999: 0 streams>40000+: 0 streams
>>14603183wasn't all of holox literal 2 view on dumpster fire corp before holos?
>>14603183wasn't all of holox literal 2view on a dumpster fire corp before holos?
>>14603223Also from last thread
>>14603348
Previous thread >>14588798
>>14603385>>14603348>>14603223jesas
Real previous: >>14588798
All these numbers got me thinking, there's no chance for indies and nijisanji to ever be big big anymore in Japan, huh?
what was council membership opening number again?only remember kronii around 4k members and maybe baelz around 1k members
>>14603529Define big. Nijisanji has more irl concerts, merch, and outside collaborations. Hololive has more fans, in-house concerts, and high profile artists. Both are pretty big. Meanwhile indies ride the coattails or are vsingers and have their own niche
>>14603183Wait, iroha is still a mystery hire tho. Are you talking about chloe?
>>14603600>Hololive>more fansRumao>in house concertsMore like they can't afford huge venues because they know they can't recoup yhe costs>high profile artistsDo Holofaggots really?
>>14603183Nobody knows Irohas past life
>>14603600Big as in CCV-wise or the amount people who would tune in to watch them. I know numberrot is a thing, but it doesn't seem like anyone other than Hololive could hit 10k+ casually. Even 5k is hard. It's as if they've already gained a majority of vtuber fans, not tourists, in Japan.
>>14603183Anonynous 14603183...All of Gen6 were 2views exept for the orca that earned 10M yen superchat in 3 years
>>14603700Wasn't she a random 2view FFXIV streamer?
>>14603720Well.. i've never heard niji has expo before so...>alsoYup high profile artist instead of some random intern niji in-house modeler that make all those shitty L2D
>>14603529maybe if sio comes back
>>14603741Well then sure, no one can comfortably challenge Hololive. Aside from Nijisanji, VSPO is a niche. They will find quite some success when they get 3D in the future but as it stands they're very much fps oriented and that isn't mass appeal
>14603720>Nijinog in denial >Nijinog still lives in 2019 to early 2020
>>14603763Nobody knows
>>14598088What the fuck are you talking about her getting old? She has the dance lessons+ singing reps for her birthday stream in less than a month, her surprise 3D stream and the Hololive 3rd fest to prepare for next year. She certainly isn't at her peak form with all the events that'll happen in the next few months. In fact we should be grateful she has more than Fubuki's numbers this month with all that. Expect her to explode records after the 3rs fest concert.
>>14603600Keep in mind anon that most of those collabs, concerts, and merch are heavily carried by the old guard. Nijisanji is also still riding the 2019-2020 wave where they had absolute dominion over Japan. Problem is that their basically getting their ass kicked and Holos late 2020 surge is finally starting to bear fruit. If Nijisanji fails to find another torch bearer in any of their future waves, they are fucked.
>>14603836This month's mogging has mind broken them.
>>14603700>>14603740from holox iroha was the least popularthe others had triple digitsiroha had 11 viewers average
>>14603786There is no official Niji expo there is only Nijisosaku which is a fan thing, smaller, and had their 5th run this summer.Hololive and Nijisanji share Live2D artists. My comment was more on things like official art and fanart it's a fact that there's far more popular Hololive animations and manga and etc.
If FBK can suddenly find the spark and retake the throne out of nowhere, does that mean we could see a sudden resurgence from someone like Korone or Aqua?Well, not that Korone ever really had bad numbers before her knees exploded....
>>14603929>Hololive and Nijisanji share Live2D artistsThere's only a handfull of them that share same artist, the rest are in-house
>samefagging this hard
>>14603884This makes no sense considering they only increased output this year. Fucked in the sense they will probably never get gold in CCV, sure, but since when does that mean they're over? Last time I checked you all shat on Edengumi yet they're still getting merchandise mixed with big dogs like Toya, tournaments, collabs
>>14604060>they're still getting merchandise mixed with big dogsMerchandise is made to order. There is zero cost to make a model and a small batch and put up for sale. Voice packs even less so: they record the voice for free and may or may not see a returnThe Nijisanji model isn’t a risky one (and that’s a smart thing) but that also means you can’t really claim success by virtue of having mercy for sale, only by having it actually selling (and nobody knows how much they’re selling)
When I checked this in March it was about 115k holo and 90k nijisanji, a gap of 25k. The gap is about 43k now. Not that anyone uses pixiv much anymore though...I think most have moved to doing twitter only but I don't see evidence that Nijisanji artists do it at a higher rate.
>>14604060Mindshare. The nips tend to be late to the party, but when they finally do catch on, they bandwagon hard. Also, after all the numbers and charts that have been posted here, there's no way you can say that Nijisanji isn't declining (their females being worst off than they have been since before their heavy incline in 2019).
>>14604223Nowhere in my replies am I saying they're selling more than Hololive or that it's topping anything. But to say they're over because no golds is dumb. They're now settling into "tournament golds only" life.
>>14604284My point is specifically about Edengumi. The fact “even they” have merch (which seems to be a point you made) doesn’t carry any meaning
>being in second place in a bunch of metrics means you're failing and about to go awayNo, you're all fucking idiots. Call when an IBO happens and the company is gutted and more subsidiaries and branches are closed. Until then Nijisanji is doing quite well with what they have. Their business model is sound to stay stable and competitive. There is no zero sum game here, companies gain and lose mostly independent of each other since the fanbase overlap has diminished significantly. Nijisanji and Hololive are both about getting their base of support to actually engage and trying to expand that base. Nijisanji's and Hololive's competition are tv, movies, anime, video games, going to the park etc. more than each other.
>>14603972Koro-san's true decline was when her mother got sick to the point that she want to graduate.
>>14604517>Their business model is sound to stay stable and competitive. There is no zero sum game here, companies gain and lose mostly independent of each other since the fanbase overlap has diminished significantly.This is true but you must acknowledge the situation Anycolor (and Nijisanji) find themselves in right now. It is not that the market expanded so much that their market share decreased even when their audience increased. By every possible metric their audience decreased as well. Steeply after Koshien, coinciding with the demise of both APEX and Genshin.
>>14600061She did that fun 3 people drawing stream, unsurprising it was her only stream with not awful CCV.
>>14603895I'm pretty sure Koyori was also a 2 view, didn't she take nearly an entire day of endurance singing to get 100 hundred subs or something like that?
>>14604839It's like the Japanese stopped liking Apex overnight.
Someone please post Nijicope list
>>14604918Botan showed them theres a plethora of other, better, FPS out there
>>1460322365% of HoloJP streams are above 10k9% of NijiJP streams are above 10k38% of HoloEN streams are above 10k0% of NijiEN streams are above 10k>>14604839Nijisanji has a solid base that can come out during events, like the splatoon tournament. Their problem is their base is getting less and less interested with the mundane day to day streams and there is a risk that they will become so disengaged that they leave altogether. In holo's case I don't think Hololive having 150k viewers each night across all streams at primetime is going to last.
>>14604517>you're failing and about to go awayNo one is saying that, Niji is fine. But Hololive had already acquired a majority of mindshare locally and globally. It'll get harder for them to incline in the future along with indies.
I hope both niji and holo go down, we need some change in the industry. Every few years the industry goes through some massive changes. There's no more upd8, there's no more Kizuna Ai, .LIVE might as well not exist anymore, etc. Hopefully Yagoo will find himself in ruins after his metaverse/NFT bullshit flops.
>>14605044lol
>>14604918From my observer perspective (I never played by watched Choco, Astel, Roboco and Aqua play dozens of hours) it was the introduction of that effeminate nigger (Seer?) that killed it for nips. Their meta seemed to be to advance very carefully, holing up and avoiding detection at all cost. Then a character that can spam wide range detection and they can’t do that anymore.
>don't even watch streams anymore>just hangs around on /#/>tfw care more about numbers than my oshiWhat have I become...
>>14605104cheater problem also hasn't improved and the final nail in the coffin was the new map which everyone thinks is dog shit
>>14605049>Nijisanji has a solid base that can come out during events, like the splatoon tournamentIt uncharacteristically (for an all hands on deck event with weeks of prep) failed to break 100k. Not the best example. Recent toya championship announcement would be a better example.
>>14605060Empires rise and fall, you really don't know that. Sure, we can live in a dystopian future where hololive owns everything but we could just as easily live in a future where they crashed to 3rd place. It's the entertainment industry, it is very volatile. >>14605080I think you need meds.
>>14588734>>14590925How can nijisanji recover?
>>14605138anon, there's still hope. just abandon this place now, i am falling for the same mistake you are in now and i already miss living in ignorance
>>14605171>dystopian future where hololive ownsNijicuck please.
>>14605080Meds now, Marineschizo
>>14605080AT LAST, your true face! Feels good when you don’t need to pretend anymore, doesn’t it?
>>14605172>failed to break 100kThat's because the big hitters were streaming on their own channels. It was much higher than the 93k and 89k we got on the main channel. The MK tournament and the NY events will show good power.
>>14605080>Nijinog and their Gypsie vodoos
Kuzuha should switch to playing LOL full time. He could be the Japanese imaqtpie
>>14605104it was mostly the new map. the streamers don't like it so they don't stream/play it. most of the girls i watch play apex get the same viewers as they used to.
So what kinda numbers do you all expect Chloe to get in this stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48-PzpDv7-Q
>>14598485Okay, here is the highest number of individual members to post in the chat of a single stream for each Hololive member, or in short an absolute minimum number of members. As with all member numbers take with a big pinch of salt because it depends on how many people post in chat, but it's good to get a rough indicator at least. Big asterisk goes next to all the overseas branches (well except Council) because Hololyzer only has data from those since mid-August for some reason.>JP0Suisei - 4499Miko - 3828Sora - 1616Roboco - 745AZKi - 635>JP1Fubuki - 2652Haato - 2248Matsuri - 1208Aki - 666Mel - 473>JP2Aqua - 5263Ayame - 5035Subaru - 3224Shion - 2220Choco - 512>JP GamersKorone - 2664Okayu - 2570Mio - 2302>JP3Marine - 5639Pekora - 5103Rushia - 3606Flare - 2519Noel - 2145>JP4Coco - 15353 (holy shit!)Watame - 5095Kanata - 2335Towa - 1673Luna - 1414>JP5Lamy - 3423Nene - 3089Botan - 1872Polka - 1773>EN MythGura - 5638Ina - 3630Amelia - 3482Mori - 2668Kiara - 2571>EN HopeIRyS - 1467>EN CouncilKronii - 3949Fauna - 2177Mumei - 1632Sana - 1485Baelz - 1042>ID1Moona - 468Risu - 314Iofi - 285>ID2Reine - 687Ollie - 602Anya - 273
>>14605264I agree but, at very least in breadth, that championship has potential for a much larger audience than even the combined what, 150k?
>>14605080
>>14605196Debut more male idol units, like ROFLMAO. We often joke about it here, but if they went full 100% hardcore MANJISANJI, they might actually stand a chance.
>>14591114Subaru looks so cute here
>>14605316>Breaking out Evil God Korone alreadyOrca, no thats for numbers emergencies only
>>14603183It's beautiful. Maybe they can save some nijisisters next.
>>14605361They actually do with their upcoming concert
>>14605311he will not go all in with lol. he might enter another valo arc but there is no way he becomes focused on lol.
>>14605330>Miko - 3828Miko says she has more than 10k a few months ago. I wonder how many people member off stream.
>>14605049Agreed. Its all bout mindshare and engagement. For how much /#/ likes to shout about deadsubs, you'd think most of the anons here would be aware of how alarming the lack of engagement of Nijisanji fans is. Thanks to successful international expansion and actually being able to funnel overseas fans towards their jp talents, Hololive now has a 24 hour dominion over the Vtubing sphere. If that doesn't raise alarm bells in Anykara headquarters than Riku should fucking resign cause he somehow wasted a talent like Mito who should be what Pekora is right now.
>>14605198There's no helping anymore. I'm already a part of this place, and bound to it...
>>14605080sounds like you need the perfect lifehack https://youtu.be/kwyydB5zzrU
>>14605361I keep saying Nijisanji already has pseudo male idols before ROFMAO and before the 4th anniversary concert but no one seems to listen. What the fuck do you think Chronoir is
>>14605434>you'd think most of the anons here would be aware of how alarming the lack of engagement of Nijisanji fans isIts a recurring theme on matome comment section: >where were those 90k from X thread yesterday?
>>14605104Shit observation skills, anon. The nips love seer. It's the fucking new map that killed it.
>>14603761She was still a 70~ view>>14604896Koyori was a bit better than 2views by the time she dropped off. Her real rags to rishes story starts with her being sidelined at literally every other form of entertainment before. I'm not sure how many roommates have a Wikipedia page besides her.
>>14605138I just come to both when bored and she gets good numbers. Additionally, I like Bae too so im coping hard from that....
>>14605434Are the males reclining?
>>14605426Obviously there's a lot of people who never comment, so it's pretty useless as an indicator of how many members they have, it's more to show they compare to each other
chumbuds DON'T like DMC4
>>14605640>Are the males reclining?Just as much.
>>14605462>What the fuck do you think Chronoir isSome blokes who can't sing mixed with some who can. I guess they are idols. Are female idols and male idols the only thing that prints money in the industry now? Seems like it.
>>14605640An anon posted a chart that showed that they were, although not as steep as the girls and they were being hard carried by Kuzuha and Touya. Now though, with Kuzuha seemingly reclining, we might see a bigger than usual drop from them.
>>14603223
>>14605462exactly this. And in the case of Chronoir you can hardly call it pseudo because of how much they push it, they had matching idol outfits as early as 2019
>>14605761This chart would be more meaningful normalized for the number of streams because as it is it just shows one thing>Nijisanji streams way more than Hololive The big 0-9999 bar overshadows everything else
Damn fubuki really blowing the everliving FUCK outta pekora, huh? Numbers bunny must be throwing such a hissyfit
>>14605705Let's be honest Gura is bad at the game, but not bad enough that it's entertaining to watch.
>>14605080>Every few years the industry goes through some massive changes.Mots of the changes in the industry is literally old guard nuking themselves for one reason or another. Don't expect this to keep happening to everybody. There's plenty of streamers and youtubers who operate for a decade already, both in the West and in Japan. The rate of change in the industry is way overblown. Don't expect Hololive or Nijisanji to go anywhere anytime soon.
>>14603700Dunno bro, she sounds almost exactly like Nia for me. Nia was a XIV autist toohttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1G4411Y7i4?
>>14605709>>14605640Looks like a 3.5% incline to me. Stable, I do not worry for Niji males since they own that market and the market isn't going anywhere. Niji male fans are also big paypigs, women, and what they lack in day to day views they more than make up in merch and concerts. Niji females are in a free fall good lord.
>>14605733I mean they are idols they literally have idol outfits and go to idol training.>Are female idols and male idols the only thing that prints money in the industry now?Always fucking has been, you're just new to Japanese mediaSeiyuu are idol-lite, all other popular men are either idols or fat comedians, 2D/3D male idol projects are generated in Japan as often as the sun riseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NksVWQFVUqw
>>14605812no sub 10k edition
>>14605330>15kthat has to be the graduation stream, right?
>>14605659Number of people engaging with members-only content would be a more accurate, but more difficult to collect, metric. For example, there’s that one members-only poll that Gura had that got 30k votes, and Mumei has one members-only post with 3.3k likes.
>>14605836shit, i think this is her...so mio nepotism hire then...
Since you guys have a finger on the pulse of the inner workings of Cover, is there anything they can do about a vtuber's face being posted on twitter with a pretty massive amount of retweets. Hypothetically speaking.
It is pretty interesting how Nijisanji is strong with guys and weaker with their girls, but Hololive is huge for their girls but weak for the guys.
>>14605264>The MK tournamentthey also streaming on their own channels.
>>14605104>>14605476wasn't Bloodhound already similar to that?
>>14606051seer isn't what's making people drop the game, the new map and ongoing cheater problem is
>>14606013Anon, Haachama even featured (in her stream) the rap of an anti that used her face and real name in his song>he got owned so hard he knelt self doxxed and deleted the videoThese girls know how to deal with this and most of their identities is known in nip circles since forever
>>14606041There has always been a main POV for MK. That is the one that will get numerals.Pic related are the heavy hitters (skill/past win wise)The rest depend on their own popularity/if they get high rankings.
>>14606132I'm talking about a hypothetical situation where an EN vtuber's face is posted on Twitter to 4k quote retweets and climbing. Is it reportable or should no one really bother with it?
>>14606013The smart way to deal with it is to just ignore it as long as shit doesn't go full on doxxing (address, phone numbers, etc). By not acknowledging it, you basically give yourself plausible deniability. Besides, VTubers are pretty much like wrestlers anyway. Korone the Vtuber is not the same as her room mate and anyone who thinks so are nothing but marks.
>>14606023In Holostars' case, Cover didn't want to make them collab for the longest time since their inception, something that made them isolated even by HoloPro standards, so they had to create their own way, which didn't work and by then, Cover lifted the collab restriction but the damage for stars was done. I still believe Holostars can grow if Cover give them their own Hologra, but it's unlikely at this point.
>>14605822Platinum-type action games are generally shitty streaming options for views.
>>14606140only fuwa, kanae, ibrahim brings numbers there. Lize, Kuzuha, sasaki? the others.
>>14606231The fans are free to report it, but cover needs to stay clear. Again, plausible deniability. Anything short of a real dox (the life threatening kind) isn't worth responding to.
>>14606282Nah, they can be fun to watch if the streamer is good.
>>14606264>longest timeIt was just a few months, stop being overly dramatic about it.
>>14605659Choco is making a bare minimum of $700 from memberships and gets $1.75k from SCs after the youtube and Cover cuts. She got 2 sponsorships in October and has some merch. $2.45k isn't much, hopefully she gets more from the merch run and those two sponsorships.Choco has a roommate that makes dosh so don't feel bad about these numbers. I genuinely don't think she only has that many members but people do member her to cum all the time so it makes since they may not engage in regular streams.>>14606140>magic frilly and bishi anime dudes>overly cute anime school girl>then there's just one normal looking guyI always like these niji line ups.
>>14606471I think there are a handful of girls in Hololive who joined just to make friends(Noel for example).
>>14603972FBK has always had the limiters on because she hates numbers, if she unleashed her full power she would dominatekoronevirus' growth was not organicaqua would have to go back to playing games which she wont do and also i think theres enough hardcore gamer chuubas now that the market may be tough to carve back out, although I guess she still has potential as long as none of them are in hololive
>>14605972It's Mio's momThere are two girls in HoloX that have Mio's mom as their mama
>>14606231You mean that SEAmonkey that traced Gura's roommate's face and drew her costume around it? It's not like this shit doesn't come up on the first page of google, it's best to ignore it. Anyone who cares knows.>>14606534Noel's roommate activities inclined hard after joining. La+'s seems to have too.
Fuck off any retard that says Kuzuha is 'reclining' if he fails to get 10k today. 's not even his usual Valo number, he's streaming at a time his audience isn't used to.
>>14603223So, Nijisanji has 3 times as many streamers, but only twice the amount of streams Hololive has? Does this mean that Niji suffers the same problem as HoloEN: people don't stream enough and audience looses interest in them?
>>14606640He seems strong still in his case and people only shit on him cuz >MUH KING
>>14606264>Cover lifted the collab restrictionmost of the girls doesn't want to collab with them stop sprouting bullshit
>>14606623>Noel's roommate activities inclined hard after joining.she's rich, to begin with so it doesn't really matter to her. she became way more mentally stable after she joined hololive and made friends. her menhera attacks have dropped by a lot
>>14605972Mio was a nepotism hire and she got Okayu in too, right?
>>14606640
>>14606650>audience loses interest in themFor a majority of them there was never any considerable audience interest in the first place
>>14606640zuha is one of the darlings of this thread so anons need reasons to post him, whether it's kneelbros flooding the thread with their spam or OHNONONONONO/silverboy posters grieving him. it's a natural part of this thread's ecosystem, just let it happen.
>>14606231If it's Ina, spoonfeed me, otherwise I don't care.
>>14606640>Preemptive NIJICOEP
>>14606666Satan is right; a big reason why people shit on Kuzuha is because of his retarded fans.
>>14606264You guys keep saying>damage damage damageBut you don't think rationally. Why would male idols be marketed towards a straight male audience of Hololive fans who only want to see cute girls? Kuzuha has male viewers but they're there for shit like ARK wars and massive tournaments, which Holostars has none of. What do they really have other than the male idol/gamer/zatsu content that sets them apart from others right now in the JP male vtuber industry?They have collabs with girls, they have collabs with guys, hell they have collabs with the same ecelebs Nijimales suck the dick of and are in the same massive tournaments, but they don't gain any viewers because their content just does not stand out. Cover is backing the shit out of them, Holostars manager worked his ass off to get all those things for Astel's 3D. Not to mention, cafe collabs, subway promos, merch, sponsorships.
>>14606816>kuzunumberniggers>fansJust like how the guy who was shitting on Sora in here is a Hololive fan, got it.
>>14606860Anon, imagine if they had pushed for collabs with the girls from the start and used the girls for these massive tournaments they can't hold on their own, holostars could have been just like Nijisanji males by now.
Today's superchats
>>14606700Man, I'm honestly happy for her. I still remember when she cried on her other account during Christmas. This was before she joined Hololive I believe. I have the utmost respect for Yagoo for giving this dumb menhera a place that she can be happy in.
>>14607011It would mean literally nothing because most people who want to watch Pekora or Towa are not going to sit through an Oga zatsudan. Hell, even FBKfans don't give a shit about Oga's streams. People have preferences, not everyone has the DD attitude you think they have. I like to see Holostars the same way as Nijimales lower tiers. Quiet, don't do much, maybe some singing here and there, except for the fact that Holostars actually has way more specific backing and "box pushing" than someone like Naruse Naru is ever going to have,
>>14607113>3k isn't enough for top 10 anymore two days in a rowNumberrot...
Currently studying for an economic course for my degree, didn't think my knowledge here as a numberfag can be applied to the studies in the course kek
>>14605851>Looks like a 3.5% incline to me. Stable, I do not worry for Niji malesAnon>IT'S NOT FUCKING STABLE!Here is the updated extended chart for the equivalent of that>mean of peaksIt's a dumb metric prone to get influenced by outliers (check HoloMyth surge, for instance) but that's what NipBros do so, so be it.Anyway>NijiGirls are at their lowest point ever>NijiBoys are at the lowest point since Jun 2020>Niji as a whole is at the lowest point since Nov 2019 (the month of Azur Lane x Holo collab)That's not fucking stable, specially if you count from Jul 2021 Nijisanji (all segments) dropped a full third.If you think about it it's a similar fall to HoloEN, except they pulled a wildcard and inclined back this month, buying themselves a few more months.NijiEN tho, they bounced right back after the massive drop caused by Elythria. Still short of 2k mean but close enough
>>14607142That's because they aren't being given the exposure to hololive's greater audience. Song covers aren't enough, they need to have huge Nijisanji-style company wide collabs and bring in the stars, letting them into the Minecraft server would be a start.
>>14607160It's been 5 days in a row now actually
>>14607011>holostars could have been just like Nijisanji males by nowgypsy fortunetelling: fanfic edition
>He's still got itKNEEL TO YOUR KING!
>>14607237Are you perhaps retarded? Did you not read my post? Barely any Hologirl fans want to watch Holoboys. It's like saying Lizefags love to watch Kuzuha because they're in the same Minecraft server.
>>14607185Thing about HoloEN is that there's too few Holos on this timeslot to kickstart the box push. They're holding on, and the moment they have a numberfag gen 3, they can start box-pushing.
>>14607011Are you retarded?The stars got harassed and flamed so hard at the start which lead to Cover calling them separate entities so people would stop going after them.
>>14607316>Barely any Hologirl fans want to watch HoloboysYou don't know that. They haven't been given the chance to fully interact and collab with the girls. Drop them in Minecraft, let them have building activities together instead of segregating them on their own server, then you'll see whether or not it's true.
Where are my 774 enjoyers?
>>14607011If Hololive pushed Males x Female collabs then, they would forever be stuck being the 2nd. Nijisanji had already a strong grip at that market.They took the all-female Market, and look where they are. Completely overtook Nijisanji.
>>14607373>they collab>the fans check out the streams>it's not to their taste>they leaveSame with literally every single fucking Hololive x Holostar collab ever
>>14607328That was back when the fanbase was mainly JP only, nowadays it's mainly global fans who wouldn't mind male-female interactions and actually even welcome it.
>>1460728910k! Erai!
>>14607373>They haven't been given the chance to fully interact and collab with the girlsKill yourself out of /vt/ you newfag.
>>14607417Anon, the EoPs already pumped and dumped the stars during the summer.
>>14607323Too few Holos that are also involved in too many things outside of streaming. Gen 3 needs to be a dedicated streamer gen, no musicians and no artist.
>>14607404They overtook Nijisanji at the expense of fucking over the holostars brand. Was it worth it?
Ojou image with the caption>"you guys were pretty backed up, huh?"
>>14607113>Chloe above 10k for the fourth day in a rowOrca please have mercy
>>14607493100%.
>>14607515Is there anyone that can beat her for this month's SC gold?
>>14607493Let's be honest, anon. They sre the biggest Vtuber company in the world and dominate metrics. They can support Holostars thanks to Hololive and will do it until they get better or graduate, as they are Yagoo's friends or at least he cares about them.
>>14607493Holostars brand would be fucked if they were on equal footing with the women. Name 1 interesting thing Miyabi has done in a stream. Or Temma. Or Izuru. Or Astel. Or Oga. Or Shien. Or Aruran. Or Rikka.
>hololive>no one is live
>>14607493If Nijisanji was at least a company full of male chads with huge holo numbers than it would be equal. Instead they got like, one guy who's big, and a few mid sized dude.
>>14607465Because they were hoping for more hololive x holostars interactions but didn't get to see it. I'm not saying the holostars are already capable of holding big audiences on their own, I'm saying that there's a vocal majority of global fans who will tune in to see their favourite hologirl interact with a holostar. Just need to take a look at the official hololive sub to notice that, people theorize about potential collabs all the time and how kino they'd be. There's a demand for it.
>>14607493And what the fuck do you mean they fucked up Holostars? Fucking Yagoo literally grants Holostars their wish, they told Yagoo that they dont want a new Holostars, and Yagoo granted them that their latest 3D, starting from Shien is even better than Hololive.I dont get what you mean by fucking them up, because they can still Collab, BOTH PARTIES must reach an agreement first.
>>14607113Ayame image with the caption>"you guys were pretty backed up, huh?"
>>14607185Look, if FBK can incline seemingly totally randomly, there's no reason to think that NijiJP will stay stuck in their rut either. Somewhere in there, superstar Mito is waiting for her moment. Some rando Niji could just incline out of nowhere like IRyS did last month.Don't count em out.
>>14607185Here is the same chart but with Niji only for better resolution
>>14607649From what I recall, the guys have a policy among themselves that they cannot be the ones to initiate a collab with a hololive member.The hololive member has to reach out first.
>>14607649The girls are too scared of their unicorn fanbase and too in love with the SCs they get to agree to any collab. This is where management should be taking the initiative to organize company collabs, like pairing together Suisei and Roberu, but for the entire branch, but they don't and leave it up to the girls to decide individually because they're cowards.
Oh this fag is the Suirobe schizo.
>>14607649The only problem why they're still stuck is because yeah, Yagoo followed their wish. If they made StarsEN during the boom, Stars would've been in a better position where they are now since if StarsEN became successful, the algorithm would bring out StarsJP more too.
>>14607819Took you this long to figure out?
>>14607649>Fucking Yagoo literally grants Holostars their wish, they told Yagoo that they dont want a new Holostars, and Yagoo granted them that This is really idiotic because as X showed new blood helps bring interest and help the entire branch, as long as you don't go full nijisanji and spam waves of course.
>>14607624Homobegging isn't a demand. Every time homo collabs happen, the numbers are shit
>>14607707Since mean average is heavily affected by outliers, it means debut months in particular can push numbers pretty high, right? Surprising that even with that NijiEN debuting waves don't make any splash at all.
>>14607624>Because they were hoping for more hololive x holostars interactions but didn't get to see it. That's some bizarre reasoning. If they weren't going to stick around without a collab then they weren't going to stick around with one either.
>>14607493Yes. But they aren't fucked over. More like the audience themselves doesn't care. It is clear by the hate of "homostars" on the board that many if not the majority of fans of vtubers are men.
Collab beggars...Timeloop...
>>14607866Yagoo kneels to and sucks Holostars dick. Temma says he doesn't care about sponsorships or numbers, he's free to do nothing. Astel says he wants a fucking 3D train and new 3D outfit for his debut, he gets it. Miyabi wants to play COD, he gets a COD sponsor despite his fans being hags and children.
>>14607903You're underestimating the amount of shipping fans out there who'd love to see pairings form. VSPO inclined from it, the stars can too.
>Battle of morning threads
>Holostar>Shit ccv, shit sc, get the best 3d stream>Hololive>record breaking view, sub and sc, get shitty 3dHomostar is a fucking leech. I fucking hope Cover executive drop them when Yagoo is out.
Reminder.
>>14608017>underestimatingPretty sure no one wants that even stars and Holos. Good thing you're not in the management team cause I'd fire you if you bring that up in a meeting
Taking a break from the all this holostars talk, I have a question to the panel. Say we graduate Kuzuha and most of the old guards from Nijisanji (Mito and the rest of JKgumi, he-ayame, lize, Kanae) who from the newer waves would be the most likely to pick up the mantle?
>>14608079
>>14608079Dam she got big numbers nice
>>14607381Listening to Patra ASMR and cooming to the subs/ccv ratio of the new gen
>>14607404more like 3rd or 4th kek. another idol group will incline instead.
>>14607707>Kuzuha starts streaming Valorant in the morning>tanks the entire male average by himselfBased
>>14607866only when existing talents have a secure fanbase of a good size. most of the homos struggle to break 1k, a new gen's fanbase would mainly be made up of existing fans
Pekora hasn’t even got a medal in how long?
Okay fuck it, it's nearly halfway through the month...December superchats so far>Chloe - $135,563>Iroha - $94,763>Laplus - $83,604>Nene - $68,115>Hayato - $63,456>Rushia - $59,480>Koyori - $55,907>Ayame - $55,300>Flare - $50,641>Shion - $44,187>Mori - $38,060>Lamy - $34,397>Lui - $33,743>Fubuki - $30,467
>>14608107Fuwa Minato, rest of his unit are missing due to depressionIbrahim when he's forced to go back to MinecraftAs for females, Ngo the dark horseTamaki when she pulls her political connections to tip Susan in her favor
Bringing up het shipping as a positive for idol vtubers. This has gotta be bait.Oreapo is not something so easily reproduced shart.
>>14608245GO LUI GO!
converse x Suisei came into fruitionhttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1470559628987867136This seems like an odd sponsor to land.
>>14607737Nobody wants to see that shit. It won't help Holostars it will only drag down Hololive. I have to assume at this point every Homobeggar is secretly a Nijifag who wants to see Hololive ruined
>>14608182She's coming up on Reine.
>>14607185>So NijiJP women inclined a bit due to lize's Effort?>NijiJP Boys declined due to King's recent valorant>NijiEN inclining but still can't return to former numbers due to Ethyria>HoloEN inclined thanks to Mori, Mumei and Outfits but poor IRyS had her growth stopped due to sorethroat, sponsorship and recordings.>Kinda surprised HoloJP didn't go down, All HoloX have 80k-100k Peak average on November afterall.
>>14608306Niji does het pairings and look how successful they are! Doesn't Cover want a cut of those sweet 2k CCVs?
>Title is just "Fortnite">Highest live channel on Fortnite YT topic>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXzGWycANrrfyBmzX6JMsvQ/liveAlgo is gonna favor her again
>>14608227Didn't gen 1 have a similar to a lower amount of CCV when they debuted gen 2?
>>14608364Not as odd as athletes shilling for Geico, at least Suisei is stylish and Converse would like their products to be seen as the same.
>>14607185>>14608449>King's recent valorantThis makes me curious to see Niji male numbers MINUS Kuzuha. Individual. Like the female decline pic that was posted.
>>14608364YEEEEAH SUISEI!
>>14607185HoloEN needs to keep playing minecraft.
>>14608245HoloX dominating obviously but holy FUCK Nene, if it wasn't for the new girls she'd have a good chance of winning this month
>>14608245>>Fubuki - $30,467I hope she gets that gold fish when JPs are watching at primetime. It will rain.>>14607707Niji woman stopped the bleeding and NijiEN is inclining by 15% during a debuff month.
So far the thread is civilized, glad to see that>No falseflaggers starting HoloEN vs HoloJP again>No bullies trying to kick underperforming chuubas>Discussions are actually related to numbers and the thread isn't just a gossip place
>>14608657and then you mentioned it.
>>14608227If Yagoo put the notice on the main Hololive twitter account, a new Stars gen could really bring more eyes to them.I think Holostars are scared for nothing and they haven't grew anything outside of Astel and maybe Roberu. Even Izuru lost people.
>>14608657you jinxed it
Alright if NijiEN male wave debuts, do we count them with NijiEN as a whole or separate? it is a male only wave
>>14607381Small Forest is a little numbers machine. And it's all thanks to apex. Uruca advertised her 3d live in his stream name the other day. Everyone who streams apex loves Meto and sometimes they watch her too.
>>14608364wheres the Botan x Adidas collab?
AMESAME collab numbers
>>14608589I haven't watched a FBK Stream so i'm not sure but this isn't the first time she had a continous suffering arc right? (there is axoltl and rta undertale right?)
>>14608589>. It will rain.And it will be a red rain, akai ne ~
>>14607707Obviously the company and market can still support that many livers when most of them don't treat it as their day job, but watching them dip below 2019 levels does make me wonder if Nijisanji didn't debut a wee bit too many of them back in the day.
>only one pov>it's not the one known for playing fpswhy
>>14608827Today's winner???
Shark eating King and June
Kronii has been moving up consistently for a while, but Chilean Nyanners is starting to catch up.
>>14608364Holo x Uniqlo when?
>>14608564Return stream + her sign streams are hugely profitable. She actually had to start doing the signs off stream because people were SCing almost faster than she could sign them.
>>14608832Yeah but shes 100+ hours, this is a different level of suffering
>>14608754its under the niji en branch so yes.
>>14608894No.
>>14608832That was Kanata, Fubuki got her upa in her second stream, dunno about undertale.
>>14608827I remember when roboco played fornite to 500 or so viewers in early 2020. I would say she would get double that number now... Maybe.
This collab might be 30k+?
>>14608903Is she the first Holo to ever play Fortnite on stream?
>>14608846What if that was intentional subliminal messaging? Maybe FBK needs to buyout some investors to increase her portfolio. >>14608798That would be the biggest event with her on this board, followed by her playing STALKER and starting the STALKER arc once Peko sees the numbers.
>>14609005Amelia has already done a solo Fortnite stream
>>14608657god damn it chumbuds never shut the fuck up
>>14608754It depends. If they're mogging the females into the ground then no, if they're a rotting limb like wave 3 then yes.
>>14608903Every holos should hop the fornite bandwagon quick.
Gura is going toe to toe with the most subbed streamer in the world, ludwig
>>14607624>vocal majority of global fans
>>14608985incoming 30k
>>14608245In all of November the top 10 earning vtubers combined made $680k, in not even half of December yet the top 10 have made $711k
>>14608827I thought people hate Fortnite?>>14608920Damn she had Pekora beaten this month. But rabbit still got her 2nd or 3rd place in that Top Female Chart.>>14608754If there are 5 members then we should seperate them.
>>14608903>Fortnite>GuraHeavy incline incoming.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAir6inas-I
>>14609129>the most subbed streamer in the world, ludwigSince when
>>14609160>I thought people hate Fortnite?Fortnite new season
>>14608364That design doesn't justify the 50$ price tag. I was hoping for shoes......
>>14608754If they show any significant variance from the girls they should be noted separately on the monthly chart. Manjisanji culture is interesting and needs more observation.
>>14608903Niji en wish they could get this kind of number and become gold contender.
>>14609191Get on with the context without me explaining to you. It's not just YT that has a subcription system.
>>14608017>the stars can toogo pair with indie like VSPO then starsfag HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA PATHETIC BEGGAR
I'm hoping for 30k, but the number stalled at 28k and slowed down a lot.
>>14608827>>14608903Proof that her audience consists mostly of little children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDj8nX73T5sHoloX memberships coming up
Nijibros...
>>14609240But he isn't even top of Twitchhttps://twitchtracker.com/subscribers
>>14609267true...
>>14608087This. Imagine being in a meeting, discussing what a bang up job we're doing with our idol group dominating streaming in Japan, and then some guy is like "XD WHAT IF WE FORCE THEM INTO SHIPS WITH MALES". I'd wonder who hired this fucker
>>14607624Why in the fuck would the Hololive girls give a shit about what a "vocal majority of global fans" think?
>>14609340His theory is since Oreapo has fans, Hololive can benefit from shipfagging. By his metric they should graduate every vtuber because Coco benefitted from graduating, I mean LOOK at those numbers
>>14609005ROBOCOGET OUT NEWFAG
>>14609236>28k>gold contenderOn a bad day in September maybe. Golds are usually 50k or above. 28k is pitiful.
>>14609406Aussie bros...We failed
>>14609434It didn't come up when I looked up "hololive fortnite", though. Maybe that's part of the reason she didn't get as much views.
>>14609448It's still rising budy hahahaha. Gura is the en ayame and you can't stop her.
>>14609294Can Goorah break 30k and restore some honor to EN?
>>14609417>OreapoIt works for them, but look at their numbers. It's shit. Look at Kanda/Gundou. It's shit. Other pairings have shit numbers. Hololive didn't get to the top with pairings
>>14608903Is this going to be a Henry Stickman situation where a bunch of HoloJP going to pick up Fortnite because of Gura.
>>14609178>>14609267>>14609329
>>14609610Glory to holo en! Gura don't fking dieeeeeee!
>>14609448Numberrot anon...except a few Peko streamers or gen 3 collabs, every 50k is an event. There are days without events
>>14609595>Gura is the en ayameShe has been a bit lazy lately but not THAT lazy
30k get
>>14607624The majority of holo fans both JP and EN are Iyashikei anime observers, myself included. Hololive incline coincides with the lack of Iyashikei anime being produced. There is an article that talks about it but I can't find it.
>>14609626But Pekora's views shot up when she got into a voice chat with Miko during that Minecraft stream
>>14609638No its a single POV for one of the most popular ship.
>>14609638Incoming influx of kids approaching...
>ludwig is losing to two anime girls kek
>>14609417nah beggar will keep begging, just collab with ollie ffs thats holopro right? or any IDs really they served for the homos collab purpose
>>14609595>still losing to Fubuki's fishingWhat's the point? She can't even beat the true face of Hololive
>>14609789Anon, she just got a bigger peak than FBK fishing.
>>14608245Mori's value is wrongJK GotB $ 3,207Pokemon $ 6,046Smoll Calli $ 2,742Outfit $ 17,283Cooking stream $ 5,411Rocket League $ 68Guilt Gear $ 642JK NB finale $ 5,523YT Music weekend $ 3,578 Total $44,500
>JP-EN timeloop kuzukeks seething?
>>14609789Fubuking is sick of pokemon already.
https://playboard.co/en/live/top-viewing-all-live-in-worldwideGura currently in 9th place. The view gap is close enough for her to get 4th. How soon will she be able to make it?
>>1460970430k is an achievement now?
>>14609857rent free
king...
>>14609857>>14609889Samefag.
>>14609783ollie's subs are growing faster than most jps
>>14609884for EN yes
>>14609903He peaked at 10k right? I consider that a win
>>14609928I can already tell who you are just by the image
>>14609877Gura moves up to 8th place now.
>>14609928good for her, must be averaging 10k ccv as well right? and of course topping daily SC
>>14609903Yeah keep playing that valorant and apex king hahahaha!
>>14609923Retard learn samefag and cooldown Kek
>Fortnite is a buff gamePekora will play Fortnite in the near future
>hololiveMore like sharklive atm
Tough slot
>>14609996>what is phoneposting
>>14609884Absolute numberrot Kek
>14609928homobeggar is actually gen5 schizo holy shit
>>14609704>5 mil subs between them>play most zoomer game possible>main audience is kids and brainlets>only 30kWhy is EN such a fucking disappointment? Fubuki can get 40k fucking fishing for shinies
>>14609884numberrot reaching terminal levels
>>14609928>Clipwatcher deadsubs who only contribute to clip channels' views and nothing else>Means anythingTopkek
Went up to 31k then back down to 29k
>>14609846The useless gooks over at playboard lost the SCs for the Pokemon stream so it won't count as part of the monthly rankings, yes it's wrong and your data is correct but frankly changing what PB got wrong is a huge can of worms that I'm not interested in opening
Gura gunning for Timcast
>>14609928Isn't this the best proof that subs =/= success?
>>14610098Holy kek are you seething because of this>>14609857Since when did kuzuniggers got thinned skin over shitpost?
>>14609997Number rabbit is watching u know it.
>>14609903>amesame collab beating someone with half gura's subs streaming a debuff game outside of jp primetime is an achievement nowwhat's wrong chumbuds? why lower the bar this much?
>>14610190wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww is this gonna be the lowest viewed suisei song on her Channel???
I kinda want to watch a La+ Cunny vs King valorant match up.
>>14610246It's well known that shitposters on 4chan constantly reply to their own posts using their phones to make it look like it's a different person replying.
Why two consecutive non-split POV collabs on Gura's channel? Is management trying to boost her instead of the girls? She doesn't need those numbers.
>>14610190kek
>>14610274https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gQI6c2jHrU
>>14610193These numbers are pretty good for FORTNITE. However, it's fluctuating so much that I'm not sure if it's a success. Some people coming in to shit on her choice of game.
>>14605330>>14605426Miko said she had more than 10k like 6 months ago, and she said recently that her subs have inclined alot since then, surprising her. Something about making a small city of 35p.
>>14610336I just want to see company vs company FPS VTuber matchups. The Apex tournaments were full of mixed company teams.
>>14610340Is this projecting? I've never seen someone make a narrative out of phone posting other than image file name kek
Youtube should give contracts to holomen. Twitch streamers are shit on youtube.
>>14610336he's ass at valorant
>>14605330Member chat means jackshit
Good numberfag strategy for gura. I dont wanna hear chumbabies that gura doesn't care about numbers or she doesn't like getting big numbers because clearly she does.>clickbait thumbnail>Collab in her channel after outfit reveal(2x)>Single PoV collab on fortnite
>>14609977Gura still at 8th, but drops down to 29k. 7th-4th are at 32k, 33k, 33k and 35k respectively.
>>14610193It'll never normalize, Hololive's ridiculous fall and winter so far have permanently mindfucked the numbers thread.
Is the game dead nowdays?
>>14610485Management is trying to boost Gura hard while not leaving any for the rest of the girls. Selfish bastards.
>>14610435youtube demands 200hrs of stream a month.i dont think any of the girls would be able to handle a year of that
>>14610190homos dragging down suisei song numbers...she supposedly getting any song to 1M on her channel....
>>14610426Nah, everyone knows samefags use that technique all the time. It's pretty easy considering how many people have easy access to it.
>>14610505Yeah, this collab is not successful. This should have broken 35k at least, but it's dropping fast and regaining viewers slowly.
>>14610523Nah, but it doesnt have BIG FACES anymore like beofre
Is fortnite even popular in japan?
>>14610523Seems mostly ok
30k of literal children watching child's game.I wonder what the SC / viewer ratio will be like. probably a record low
>>14610190I'm Hoshiyomi with 1 year badge. I didn't have any problem with Suisei collabing with men especially if their fans are civil like Hima Shokudou guy, but with stars and starsfag, I will not doing reps for this cover.
>>14610190Listen to the song, it really is bad and Suisei sounds far away like they purposefully lowered her volume.
>>14610551Nah, 200 hours was Kkatamina Girl talking about her Twitch quota. Youtube's more lenient than that though we don't know by how much.
>>14610180Remember when fubuki was hardstuck at like 5k viewers for many, many months?
>>14610724>Listen to the songI'm not giving it a single view.
Fortnite is a buff game?
>>14610523
>>14610741he only found out about hololive with the x auditions.
>>14610693It's a collab faggot, even mentioning SCs here reveals you as a newfag
>>14610808More like AMESAME buffed it as much as they can? Yeah, this is stuck at 31k and nothing else.
>>14610719based hoshiyomi
>>14610808Its a single POV collab anon. Watch the numbers plummet if she tries to play the game alone.
Mogged
>>14610912Oujo sama!
>>14610736think valkyrae is about 100/month and she has to stream a shitload extra this month to make up for the hours she missed the rest of the year.
>>14610912She beat a midget and you're celebrating?
>>14610808Ame and Gura have been making fun of it and singing the Fortnite song for months+single channel collab+yes the first time holo plays popular game people watchIt's not something you can turn into a buff game. For example, TF2 isn't a fucking buffgame but people wanted to see Pekora playing it.
>>14610800get someone else to watch it and listen in that way.
>>14610800Ok that's fine I'm just saying it sucks and the mixer did her dirty.
>>14609903Is Fortnite > Valorant?
>>14610808For someone with a kiddy audience like Gura, yes.
>>14610523>>14610826Aren't those number better than niji? I won't consider that Dead.
>>14610736>s Kkatamina Girl talking about her Twitch quotano that was valkyre
>>14610523It's reclined but not dead just like NijisanjiOverwatch is a better example of a dead game
Not a good day for Edengumi
>Viewers drop like a rock after each match endsExplain
>>14609178>>14609267>>14609329https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeGfI0TIv7UOH GOT HER! I GOT HER! OH MY GOD!I JUST KILLED GURA! I JUST KILLED GURA! I JUST KILLED GURA! I JUST KILLED GURA! I JUST KILLED GURA! I JUST KILLED GURA! I JUST KILLED GURA! I JUST KILLED Guh~ Ha~ HOOOOOOHHH!OH MY GOD! I JUST KILLED GURA! I JUST KILLED GURA!
>>14611158Except this is a collab. 30k for the both of them is still low.
>>14610523>>14610826It's so dead that Japan is resorting to dragging Hikakin into ithttps://twitter.com/CMZGG/status/1470349134851092483
>>14610396We've seen her twitch numbers. She's fucking rich. >>1461019331k was never a jaw dropper, especially for Gura. Context is important.
>>14611262ENSchizo, they're discussing Fortnite numbers
>>14611262> 30k is low> Full myth TTRPG collab with 10k peakkeklul
>>14611262Kek, schizo
>>14611246First time watching a battle royale game? It's always like that.
>>14611246it's probably like apex where people are tabbed out until something actually happens on stream then they switch tabs to watch what's going on.
>>14611314>Context is important.This. Selen getting 10k is a marvel but Gura getting 31k is underwhelming.
>>14611262But you people told me Collabs are a debuff for Gura
>>14611246Cover shuts off the bots in between matches to save $$$
>>14611342Schizos continue to put their hands in their years and ignore why a TTRPG part 6 is a massive debuff I see
>>14611262I know you love shitting on EN but try to follow the discussion at least.
>>14611281
>>14611390That, or waiting to see if they can join a game with them. Numbers are still okay, but maybe not gold for today. Gold for EN, of course,
>>14611314i actually missed those twitch numbers, How are they?
>>14610505Gura drops down to 28k.
>>14611495Yep, she's not breaking 35k.
>>14611435>1 mil to 600kIT'S OVER
>>14611314>31k was never a jaw dropperWho said anything about 30K being a jaw dropper? People are acting like 30k it's bad, which is beyond retarded.
>>14611476$120k across 20something watchalongs and a minecraft stream.
>>14611435>Those O faceI hate youtube thumbnail game so much
How sony vtuber doing lately?
>>14611564That one's just 1 day old, though.
Ina and Bae's stream starting now.
>>14611596Fubuki spending hours to catch a shiny Magikarp>40k CCVPekora opening Pokemon cards>50k CCVCollab between 2 of the most popular EN Vtuber with 5 mil subs right after their new costumes playing the most buff game possible for their zoomer audience>30k CCVAmeSame collab is a fucking disappointment considering all the buffs they should have
>>14611661Problem?
>>14609704I thought I'd never see EN hit 30k on a regular stream again. Good job Goober.
This is a terrible number for Elu. She used to get 3k on the regular with APEX. A big part of the Niji male/female decline comes from APEX dying, make no doubt. Chihiro's viewership is in gutter lately as well.
>>14611738>muh other streams get moreJesus just stop. What's wrong with you? Did someone say this is the highest ever or some shit?
>>14611738Thank you. It's a good number, but it should have been more. Gura could have technically gotten this same number alone. >>14611667Still low numbers, kek.
>>14611823Would that mean they'll jump to Fortnite in the future too, since Gura has might have just started the trend?
5k on Ina x Bae stream.
>>14611823Chihiro publically said she noticed no one really wants to watch Apex anymore>>14611827Calm down, this happens to anyone else mentioned in /#/ but once it happens to EN you start crying and invoking Christ's name, I don't think Jesus would want you to bite bait
>>14611738Yes fellow NijiEN fan, Selen would get at least 20k with Fortnite.>>14611823I thought Chii-chan was declining since she's been a menhera as of late.
>>14612051Chii-chan has always been menhera.
>>14611827I got one viewer thats good right?>muh other streams get moreReeeee who cares! 1 viewer isn't the highest but it's still good!!!!
>>14611823Wth is this number!??? Niji jp can't even beat niji en now????
ina + Bae stealing some viewers from gura and ame as expected.
Bae x ina 10k incoming.
>>14612481Marine gets 40k on her solo drawing streams. Guess we know who the superior artist is
>>14612278Nonsensical comparison. Someone said "X has number" and you spam "WELL SOMEONE HAD BIGGER NUMBER BIG DEAL W/E". Should this thread just not have posts unless people match the biggest number? You sound genuinely retarded.
>>14612481Hololive: the en branch strike back!
>>14611495https://playboard.co/en/live/top-viewing-all-live-in-worldwideGura down to 26k and 9th place.
Bae x Ina 10k GET
>>14612461People like me that were intending to watch her but got caught up in the Ame/Gura endgame, notice Bae's ccv spiked a lot when that match ended.
>>14612593Why are you mad at facts?
Bae 10k while overlapping Gura.
> Niji numbers are bad> Hololive vs Hololive props up
>>14610826Does anyone actually use that topic view? I've never clicked a topic card but i'm also a boomer so idk. It's easy to surf games on twitch's directory but navigating to it on youtube from the front page is a labyrinth.
>>14611823i dunno i think it's just a range. like 1.6-3.2kish usually somewhere in the middle around 2.2-2.4k. 3k+ was mostly august if i remember correctly. i've been watching her asakatsu apex since around july, but she plays a lot of casual and i have vods i want to catch up on.. so i'm watching the couple hours i missed of fubuki fishing instead.
>>14612681Yeah viewers will jump up and down for gura. The oly problem is that they didnt now about the level lmit before getting matched against real people.
>>14612605>https://playboard.co/en/live/top-viewing-all-live-in-worldwidedamn... why bother being a VTuber when to get the most viewed stream all you need to do is play Hindu songs on loop 24/7? rofl
https://natalie.mu/music/news/457516New Suisei orisong. Collabing with 夏代孝明 for SKLSHŌTER brand shoe.
>>14612689Bae on the incline! Great numbers for her
>>14612686Why are YOU mad at facts? The fact is no one said that was the highest number, you came in bringing that shit up because ???
>>14612689Can we safely say bae is the en collab queen? She on her own is bad. In collab she so much fun.
>>14612837T-Series VTuber when?
35k watching HoloEN
>>14612805heaven forbid EN actually prepare for their live streams and try out a single game before streaming it. Exactly why the EN curse exists.
>>14612837>https://playboard.co/en/live/top-viewing-all-live-in-worldwide>people actually SC the lofi beats channel
>>14612872Because it's numbers and you are in a numbers thread, my friend
>>14612897pretty normal numbers>>14612919they did but they tought it was the matchmaking putting them against new players and babies
>>14612863What's up with Apex? Are they trying to force an audience for other shit because it's gonna completely die off?
>>14612840https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7ErENr0-ik30s CM
>>14612919Quick! Kronii, stream minecraft! Mumei, sing something! EN could hit 60k!
>>14612879Bae's coffee streams are pretty comfy. It's just the solo gaming stuff that I find weak.
>>14612863This is no longer the rare morning valo stream. What's the excuse this time ?
>>14612863At least he breaking 10k. Where all the fujos at btw???
>>14612999yeah the rrat has no gaming skills but her zatsu and outgoing actitude is really refreshing in Hikkilive
>>14612952Mention numbers, EN fags get angry at observations and start spouting shit that no one has said so far.>>14612868She's hilarious and I'm glad.
>>14612840wtf a kiddy shoe? lmao
>>14612983Yeah, it's normal. Sub 30k for EN without Gura during this timeslot and 30k~40k with Gura depends on what she's up with.
>>14612863>Mogged by Bae
Why do people get so serious here?
>>14613149Numbers serious business.Some schizo is flooding thread. Watchout.
>>14612863>beaten by council twiceKingu...
>>14612863Mogged by Mel, Moona, and Bae can't wait for Sana to beat Kuzha too LMAO
Incoming HOPEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBigKHGwf78
>>14613301> not minecraftYea, won't contribute much. Can it even hit 10k?
Holos mogged.
Gura and Ame will finish soon so will funnel to ina and bae which with luck will funnel into Iris
>>14613301I wonder if the terrariafags will come. Because last time coco played it, she did like 8k.
Did trashbait finally listen to us and force HoloEN to collab and try to get numbers? It's about time.
>>14607185Do you include Premiere numbers? I used excel and somehow got 22k for HoloMyth (got the peak numbers from Holostats)>i only included streams recorded in holostats>JST Time
>>14613390If Gura and Ame stop by then maybe.
>>14613570More like boosting council numbers roru
>>14613806Think he comes on here to trash them? I know they come on here to trash him.
13k get for Ina x Bae
>>14613854>those council poster was actually him
Has any VTuber ever done a "If I hit this many subs, I do this thing" sort of thing?
>>1461389237k watching EN
>>14613960Calli. Ara Ara for 1M subs, Moe Moe Kyun for 2M
>>14613960Mori promised to do moe moe kyun at 2M
>>14613960> those karaoke begging streams...One of the general in /vt/ is based of a girl running a non-stop stream to get 10k subs. There are a lot of begging/milestone streams, anon.
>>14613960Botan, karaoke for each 100k, Ina is 200k for each karaoke.
>>14613960plenty probably have. hololive tend to do a more of "If I hit this many subs, I will STOP doing this thing" where 'this thing' usually means low-quality singing.
>>14614050Didn't one of the Prisms tried to do a Karaoke stream every day until 100k? Then she ended up fucking her voice up without reaching it during those days?
>>14614113And people rather not sub so Noel can sing more.
>>14614050temanko was a blastsometimes she'd go into a menhera crying fit
Just passed Mito.
>>14614202who the fuck is mito
>>14614202who the fuck cares?
>>14614202You meant miko right? It's ok spelling mistakes do happen
>>14614236>>14614266
>>14614035The "ara ara" and "moe moe kyun" lines are ineffective as baitShe also promised a sleeping stream but them discovered that she talks while sleeping and cancelled it
Do >we care about non-vtuber numbers now?
>>14613474DrDisrespect>3.65mil subsH3 Podcast>3.01mil DHC TV>931k The Pat McAfee show>1.58mil Gura has no reason to have less CCV than these people. Just shut it down Cover, stop letting these lazy whores leech off of the Hololive brand their JP senpais worked so hard to build up
>There will be more Fornite with GuraOh no ...
>next fortnite will be all squadWaiting to see if the add Kronii or any Council.
>>14614296What is this like a template to make your own vtuber?
>>14614587Please God No. This is the worst stream they've collab in and this game is shit.
>>14614587I honestly like that. I hope it spreads to the Nijisanji FPS gamers too so they'd have something new to play.
illegal
15k get for Baeinana!
>>14614587>fortnite with gura,mumei,kronii and ameto be honest that is a pretty good lineup, speically if they face peple already
>BaeIna at 15kIllegal.
>>14614415I can't believe people find Pat McAfee entertaining. He was an obnoxious fuck when he was our punter. He got drunk and fell in the canal downtown. He's like the Nuxtaku of sports entertainers.
It's inclining!!!
>>14614745is it illegal if they made a small cameo in the stream?
>>14614745>>14614757>>14614773>>14614918GURAME MENTIONED
>>14614947that makes it even more illegal
>>14614947that is actually ilegal in some countries
17k get! Can they go to 20k?!
17k get for BaeIna. Holo EN chads we are inclining
LUDWIG WATCH OUT
>>14615220i thought he was number one on twitch? wtf lol
>>14611281Oh no, Hikakinbros...
>>14615269Youtube does literally everything in its power to minimize the displayed ccv
>>14615269Since he's streaming on YouTube, not all of his Twitch followers may have been notified.
>Do streams that people find interesting, get numbers>Do streams that people DON'T find interesting, get shit numbersGods, the numbers are nuts for Hololive now, I can't imagine how long this insanity is going to go on for once the next MC arc kicks off in earnest. Please, save us from the numberrot.....
>>14615269*Number one most SUBBED (Member equiv on twitch) on Twitch. Its almost like people don't actually check what metrics these people were known for / got and just use them to shitpost.
>>14615269Reminder that 30k+ is considered exceptional by twitch standards.Even fucking shroud only has 20k viewers on twitch atm.
>>14615426What was his average CCV on twitch?
>Rrat and Ina going to reach 20kHoly shit it's almost like Myth and Council remembered people love 1 on 1 collabs, especially first timers. Them doing group collabs before them was so stupid
>>14615426>sorry anon I don't know anything about twitch streamers
>>14615492It's going down now so I don't think that's happening
>>14615542I've heard that the VODs get automatically deleted after a while.
I love Towa
>>14615220What does that title even mean? What is he doing? Is he just peeling eggs? Nina mentioned this guy like he was some sort of big deal.
>>14615568Reine started.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1470589369782358020We got a gold.
>>14615487Average CCV of 18kish, peaks on Twitch can be affected by raids.
>>14615468Twitch must be full of midgets if a 30k is considered big.
>>14615682It's not a stream lmao
>>14615626Google says:>In Super Auto Pets you build a team from a lovable cast of animals who will fight for you. They each have unique abilites, so choose wisely who will join your team! Features two modes. Arena mode, asynchronous match ups, no turn timer!
>>14615735Twitch gets streams of 200k+30k is nothing
>>14615778those are very rare
>>14615492Also a pretty unique idea for a stream. There's probably plenty of holo fans who have an interest in drawing, or at least understanding how artists do their thing.This dumbs it down to an absolute beginner level so anyone can follow what's happening.
>>14615735Nyanners is the biggest vtuber on the platform and she normally gets like 12k, so you do the math on that one.
Rui stream in jp at gozen noon but speak english in jp night hour, what is your problem?? Also, mumer stream incoming.
>>14615735>>14615778>>14615818Highest right now is 77k.https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all?sort=VIEWER_COUNT
Antis Apologize!This should be proof that Wamy isn't trying to fight and overlap with Orca
>>14615778Tournaments, special return streams mostly.Even amouranth (most viewed female streamer) only averages like 10-12k CCV.
>>14615948tyler1 really disappeared...
>>14615920I wish Miko did more game streams on twitch just to put the fear of god into twitch vtubers to live in fear the day when hololive decides to test the waters.
>>14616005BotW is a debuff game anyway.
>>14616005We have numberrot but maybe we need to cure ourselves of /jp/rot
>>14615948Two of those are Mexicans they don't really count
>>14615948>English ADHD Anime
>>14615818Those are whenever Dream's cronies are live.
>>14615948juicer is unbeatable
>>14615920Nyanners is more of an 8-9k average who can peak a bit higher during collabs/events. >>14616005It's just one schizos hellbent on tearing down any Holomem he can with baits and schizoposting with holoX. They'll probs proclaim the doom of holoX once their debut buff is completely gone and they stabilize.
>>14614202Nobody cares about this person aside from you anon, stop posting garbage.
>>14616176From random sub raids or legit shilling?
>>14614202For the love of god FUCK OFF!!! Nobody gives a single FUCK about your shitty 2view. HOLY SHIT
>>14616183shaka's that high?
>>14616183How are the stats for the Twitch VTubers?
>>14616188>Nyanners is more of an 8-9k average who can peak a bit higher during collabs/events.This reminds me, why aren't Vshojo buffed by events at the same level as holos (corpotubers in general)? An outift reveal from them gets numbers this thread would never let a holo live down, even if their median is above some holos.
>>14616183What board do people discuss regular streamers on? I just thank god we got vt instead of getting lumped in all together on some sort of "streaming general" board.
>>14607185wtf Myth instantly caught up lmaoAME PLEASE ENOUGH WATCHALONG DO IT ON TWITCH
>>14616267>2view
Holofaggots in this thread coping and seething their whores are literal whos compared to your average Twitch streamerYou love to see it. Stay malding faggots
>>14616356/v/ off topic threads that hit 600 repliesIn actuality this is the only board dedicated to streamers. Other game generals and some boards have youtubers/twitch streamers that sometimes get brought up but this is the only e-celeb board
>>14616312Hololive is like the avengers. Team up are the best.
>>14616356>What board do people discuss regular streamers on?None and I hope it stays that way.
>>14616312Holos weren't buffed to the top because they were corporate, it was because of memes and clippers that they got famous.
>>14616312Vshoujo have a much much smaller "reserve" fanbase, that is people who don't watch everything they do but will turn up for big things. They also don't have any tourists from the other branch like Holos do, that will watch a stream in a language they don't understand.
>>14616442So /trash/?
>>14616464Vshojo gets a lot of clips though?
>>14616292Vshojo towers over all of them, though only the big 3 of vshojo can put up a fight against HoloEN (except for Kiara/Sana). Nyanners, Vei and Ironmouse are in the 7-9k average range with the rest of vshojo being 3-4k or lower.Then you have standout indies like Sauriel, but otherwise they're all 2k or less for the most part.
>>14616564Vshojo gets more clips and views than Holos even
>>14607185Nijisanji is transitioning from being a supernova to a neutron star. the will suck on female paypigs until heat death. That is a stable way to make money and is the best way forward.
>>14616615Alright settle down vshitter
>>14616604What's Snuffy average?
Graph anon can you show us the current median for every gen. Thanks in advance.
Bae raining $5.49 supas.
>>14616312because youtube has bigger reach than twitch.
>>14616604If Hololive did a HoloEN gen that focused on twitch could they compete with vshojo? Assume that this gen will be integrated like any other holomem but just have their PoV in collabs on twitch.
>>14616615Source? Your ass?
>>14616312their actual market reach is lower despite continued raids/exposure from OTV&F
>>14616630Nijisanji more like main sequence star that cooled to a red dwarf. Hololive is like a Wolf–Rayet luminous blue variable that is destined to go supernova and collapse into a black hole.
>>14616701WHAT A DEAL
has anyone made a graph for vshojo? id be nice to have a frame of reference for who are their heavy hitters and who are the sanas
>>14616649https://twitchtracker.com/snuffy4-5k average CCV. Peaks are dicey due to raids being a thing.
>>14616770Cringe
>>14615920>https://twitchtracker.com/nyannersdo that match for me please
>>14616630Pretty stable business plan, yumefujos have infinite, infinite pockets
>>14616744I'm gonna say anything Hololive put on twitch would beat all the indies and everyone on the bottom of Vshoujo besides Vei/IM/Nyannners. Unless they were a bunch of shitters like Sana or something. I think it's less certain they could beat the big 3.
>>14616744Issues with logistics and permissions aside...Possibly? It sounds like more effort than worth though, due to logistics of making sure all permissions they have on YT are good with Twitch as well, the difference between YT memberships and Twitch subs etc etc.So, not sure if worth the hassle.
>>14616824kek actual mental illness.
>>14616744It's hard to really gauge where HoloEN would sit on twitch.On one hand, all of the holo audience is on youtube. On the other hand, no CCV cull +a lot of normies on twitch.
>>14616876I'm thinking maybe if they got people of the HoloX pedigree. It would be a PR nightmare though, Hololive fans aren't big into twitch and twitch vtuber seething about hololive would cause mass aneurisms.
>>14616824>Homura as bgm
>>14616876Can you at least provide their graphs and not make retard narratives Kek
>>14616991Can Gura even do Karaoke on twitch?
all this discussion about vshojo and no one is posting their numbers, i thought this was the numbers thread
>>14616991The debut would be massive if nothing else. The name hololive is a big enough tourist draw.
>>14617042The graphs of hypothetical vtubers that do not exist?
>>14617087Yeah. But we're not discussing Gura alone, she beats the best of vshojo on youtube alone, she'd beat them on twitch too.
>>14617098>Gossip thread
>>14617098I mean, I already did (7-9k range for the top 3 averages)But here are twitchtracker links for the top 3 of Vshojohttps://twitchtracker.com/ironmousehttps://twitchtracker.com/veibaehttps://twitchtracker.com/nyanners
Didn't Artia, some chink from before hololive was even that popular, get 1k+ on twitch? That's ID tier stuff from a branch with even less popularity. I think they'd unironically do way better on twitch (except for big events).
>>14617098>sub 10k number so they won't post it till nyanner or someone getting a miracle 27k again
>>14617211I thought the numbers were better than that. I mean Flare beats them and we consider her a runt.
>>14617215Artia's record was almost 3k when Moona and her were doing a collab and Coco joined on in the ark server.HoloEN could get more easy.
Bae needs to suck it up and stream earlier in the day for her so she can hit burger prime time. I can see her inclining if she made this time slot a regular time for her. Not only would it improve her viewership but she could also funnel directly into IRyS who has that late night time slot locked down.Bae is a delight to watch but her times are all fucked up so a lot of EN fans aren't watching her. She actually does ok during JP prime time (typically 4k even against the JP heavy hitters) but I can easily see her doubling that if she made burger prime time her regular slot. Sort of like IRyS.
>>14617333Flare beats that on her normal non-Minecraft streams?
Irys vs mumei in 20 minutes. Prediction?
>>14617211(me)Rest of of Vshojo for completenesshttps://twitchtracker.com/silvervalehttps://twitchtracker.com/apricothttps://twitchtracker.com/zentreyahttps://twitchtracker.com/projektmelodyhttps://twitchtracker.com/hajime
>>14617389Ame, Mumei, Gura, Fauna, Kronii, and occsionally IRyS/Sana/Mori/occasional long Ina streams all in that timeslot.
>>14617393Beats only ironmouse with animal crossing, all of them with pkemon, all of them with minecraft, all of them with her last shill stream, and all of them with her karaoke.
>>14617417I'll watch Irys! I don't know about CCV though they are pretty close in the waiting room
>>14617393
>>14617389Her Korean gachi prefer the later streams.
>>14617417Moomer autism stream will get 15k or more.
>https://twitchtracker.com/nimuvtDon't forget about Nimuvt. Highest peak ccv holder for vtubers on twitchvshojo could never
>>14617145Nyanners already dunks on Gura lmao
>>14617098
>>14617585do they even give her enoough?
Do not let the fact that Flare have the least sub fool you. She have the most consistent ccv in gen3.
>>14617571Holo JP numbers are so inflated right now, I even see Choco, Mel, Matsuri ect getting 5k+ now. How long is this gonna last?
>>14617333Flare's solo streams (nonMC) are at about the same range as Vshojo's top's averages, (5-8k). Where Flare's numbers rocket up are in MC streams, and as of late, her being Fubuki's chatting partner when shiny hunting.https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/flare
>>14617333Aren't we being unfair to vshojo? Yes they lose to Myth and Gen3, but those are their respective branch's A teams.
>>14617525(me)In fact Flare has gotten less than Nyanners 5 times in the past month, two of which were SC readings. HoloJP is just at another level. >>14617668They gave her $3k the other day.
>>14616824actual autism
>>14617417Mumei will likely get a higher peak than IRyS. Her gureilla zatsus have been popular so far, though this isn't her usual timeslot so that could debuff her.
>>14617663How did Hime get 16k, is that from her debut?
>>14617634height? or amount of drama involved?
>>14617634>9k average>dunk on GuraOgey anon.
>>14617634Facts anon, not shitty bullshit that's easily debunked with a single link.https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners
>>14617663where does this pull from, the trackers the others posted have vei mouse and nyanners a little higher while having hime a lot lower
>>14617663So they are above niji en tier a bit. Is vtuber scene on twitch dead??? Nux drama should put em on the map i guess it's not taiwan yabai level.
>>14617663Uhh vkeks I thought their averages were supposed to be 9k?
>>14617725I don't think vshojo can compete with gen 2, gen 4 and gen 5 aswell.
>>14617663*This is for the year FYI, so those averages HAVE gone up for the top 3 of vshojohttps://sullygnome.com/team/vshojo/365/membersFor those that want to verify.
>>14617863the streamer overview thing has nyanners as the only one who pulls an average above 9k, however vei is probably getting there at the rate shes going
>>14617753ye debut stream>>14617819Sully gnome, 365 days. Heres 2021 only (Jan-Nov)>https://sullygnome.com/channel/nyanners/2021/compare/86548_17636776_7944112_15264850_6688679_7279575_27114927_36138580https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1465852808448651266/photo/1if you wanna compare holoens 2021
>>14617861>a bitThey pull 3 times their numbers
>>14617819>>14617887Vshojo have inclined some since the start of the year, hence the difference in numbers (They're mostly stable for the past few months)
>>14617716Actually Flare is inclining hard. She must be past Noel at this point. Maybe she shouldn't be a punching bag.>>14617725Rule of thumbvshojo = council solo streamsCollabs mog vshojoIf 1 twitch viewer is equal to 1 youtube viewer that is
>>14617663even vshojo is sana-tier lol
>>14617863Unfortunately raids make peak ccv an almost useless metric for analyzing Twitch channels but vshoujo gets 9k average the same way Hololive currently gets 30k average ie take the strongest members and only use their numbers.
so, any loremasters on why that vshojo gets like 1k
>>14617663For comparison sake this is for hololive
Reine at 2.35kI think is a big stream for her.
>>14617725Which gen you wanna compare them to look good anon? ID? lolMaybe they can beat gen 4 without Coco
Looks like Bae is trying to stop being a midget now that she came back. Mumei has also been inclining on SCs but she's still not doing too good, still in the $700 per stream range.
>>14617663>no mature filter on Zentreya and HajimeWhat does that mean?
>>14618068What, Hajime?Its because she ain't serious about her shit, simple as. Look at her streaming frequency, numbers are inconsistent as shit.
>>14617770>>14617780>>14617782Same game, and both sponsoredCope and seethe Holofaggots. Blue Nyanners is nothing compared to Pink Nyanners
>>14618070>watame 1342h, 296 stream>pekora 1269h, 375 streamOh Jesas
>>14618218>behold this one streamBegone with your b8, this is a pity (you)
>>146180702021 watchtime ranking (January - November)1) Gura2) Ironmouse3) Ina4) Kiara5) Mori6) Ame7) Veibae8) Nyanners9) Zentreya10) IRyS11) Silvervale12) Kronii13) Bae14) Projektmelody15) Mumei16) Fauna17) Froot18) Sana19) Hajime
>>14605330That's lower (as in, way lower) than my data, anon. For example, there were 2,016 members detected in Sana' Membership Opening stream alone, or 2,098 in IRyS'. Did you only count chat message and nothing else? I think you should add SC from members and unique member registration / membership upgrade into the calculation as well (nvm, by this point, I read your previous post and realized that you were analyzing Hololyzer's data instead of going through chat logs. That explains the discrepancy I guess)
>>14618218For any newfags who are curious, this nyanners stream was pinned onto the front page of Twitch, hence the rather uncharacteristically large number of viewers for Nyanners.
>>14618285It's so funny how being a chocoball is the biggest debuff in the industry
>>14618285>EN whores only
>>14618285Note: Council and Irys has less than half a year.
>>14618285Imagine losing to Sana.
>>14618218>>14618342Wasn't it also a charity stream or something?
>>14618285>Sana beats someone>it's the torso sized tits monster that doesn't stream
>>14618296Do you have numbers you could share? Be pretty interesting to see
>>14618342Nice cope faggot. People would rather watch Nyanners than the fake one because Nyanner is infinitely more talented and entertaining than your Memeshart
>>14618375Cope
>>14618285sucks that no one is tracking nijien watchtime
>>14618342ah, that explains it. a streamer that i follow, NL, is a 6K with some buff games that can get him to 10K. the last time he got pinned on the frontpage, while playing the tony hawk remake he got 25K
>>14618218>https://twitchtracker.com/nyannersWasn't that her biggest stream of the year? In that case Gura got 194k vs Nyanners 27k lol
Hmm where's holoX anon now that council dunking on them??
>>14618296Pomu would be a good test case and she was actually live announcing her member count as her stream progressed. You could compare announced members to "chat count" members. I think her last announcement was around 1600 toward the end of the stream.
>>14618382Nyanners typically redirects her donations to one charity or another iirc, so the majority of her streams are 'charity streams', if I'm not misremembering.
>>14618444Call it cope if you want but having six more month is a advantage.
>>14618521Are you asking to be btfo ?
>>14618521please don't bully the hag, she's doing her best
>>14618535It was a sponsored dedicated charity stream. Also endorsed by the twitch staff and put on their front page. Hence the big numbers. Same cookie game Ame and Gura shilled for middling numbers.
>>14618383Because it's just this bitch that only did VTubing as a one-off thing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7cbK2Y5uk
>>14618601Hakoz Baelz 17k>Iroha koyori 10k>Lui 8kI won't count Chloe because SC reading
>>14618424this nijinigger really is pandering to vshojo after losing to Bae huh? Waiting for kuzuha being beaten by Sana and watch nijiniggers become more retarded than this one Kek
>>14618640Ah yep, that's what it was. Yea, the shilling for middling live numbers...But the shit has 560k vod views. WHAT THE HELL.
>>14618721Iroha get 25k on a much contested timeslot solo.
>>14618424enough yapping, watch your chuuba
>>14618750>everyone I don't like is a NijifagMeds
>>14618986>everyone I don't like is a Nijifagthis but unironically
>>14618721
>>14618861That's fairly mundane for a relatively old Gura vod. Assuming it was on her channel right?
>>14618861they pulled cookie jesus, people had to check it out
>>14618986post your claim on vshojo thread, we'll wait