/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Memories broken
>The truth goes unspoken
>I even forgotten my NAAAME

>I don't know the season
>or what is the reason
>I'm standing here holding my BLAAADE

>.Live Idolbu incident
>Kizuna Ai : Clone Wars
>Gamebu fuckery
>Kaguya Luna Vs Sony
>Azuma Lim Vs CyberV (good end)
>Sio 5ch IPleak
>Holocaust
>Roa Vs Mea
>Coco Vs Bilibili/ Hololive Chinexit
>Nux Vs Vshoujo

>>14570197
Matsuri has never been the same since the door yab. The funny part is it was completely avoidable if she just said it's her dad instead of some stalker than somehow got into her home and opened her bedroom door.

TAIWAN

Vt takes
we know it's you
Stop asking for content

>>14571142
The hand was far too dark for the lie to work. The fact that she took so long to investigate didn't help either.

>>14571142
She lost half her goslings since that happened

>>14571086
Good list. I would add Mano Aloe.

>>14571086
Nobuhime vs up8 (good ending)

>Ollie Fart
https://files.catbox.moe/bq6m3i.mp4
>Ollie Cum
https://files.catbox.moe/pnvq8g.webm

>>14571086
Nux Vs Vshojo drama? really?
That shit got solved in a day

>>14571142
She said it's an intruder, not a stalker.

>>14571781
I don't remember what she said after the stream, but during the stream she said it was possibly a stalker.

>>14571498
That's just the extension of Clone Wars.

>>14571720
The whole thing took over a week to resolve. And for anyone besides the biggest VShojo cucks, was an event that made people realize just how shitty the company and their talents are.

And I would say it was dramatic enough to bring any chance of a Hololive collab to zero. Maybe will affect Nijisanji’s willingness to collaborate with them too.

>>14570197
>Asking to be spoonfed dramabait

>>14571877
She said it would be scary if it was a stalker.

>the game perms yab
>the entirely avoidable yaoi doujin yab
>the taiwan yab

>>14571086
>Gamebu fuckery
I miss Haruto...

>>14571903
It sounds more like you're a mentally ill schzio that relishes in melodrama who already disliked vsho to begin with and used that mild ass twitter beef confirm your bias
But then again who else but societal dregs with the mental maturity of teenaged girls would unironically post in a "le ebin YAB XD" thread

>>14570197
Mel raping her manager

>>14571903
You're an idiot if you think that drama would cause any serious consequences for VShojo when they've come off just fine from doing worse.

>>14572844
You had an entire company and every single talent defame a person in a coordinated attack. Nux was almost cancelled. He could sue them for slander. I doubt Cover will ever let Nyanners on a Hololive channel ever again.

>>14572114
the way Cover dealt with the Taiwan yab became a net positive for them, and I feel it has to happen eventually unless you wanna see Hololive constantly kneeling to chinks. it will become a company-killing yab if they outright fire Coco on the spot because the crazy japs will make Kyoani arson look like a joke for killing the fans's most beloved holo and their biggest cash cow just to appeal to some dirty foreigners.

>yaoi doujin yab
i agree with this. this is probably the biggest retard move cover did so far.
>Oga's dice game yab
same reason as above. funnily, it killed nkodice because the yab exposed how shitty its dev is.
>holocaust (game perms)
another huge yab that changed the way company vtubers choose which games to play.
>Kizuna Ai's clone arc / Gamebu seiyuu replacement yab
certainly the biggest yab in vtuber history which killed the respective vtubers's careers. it also set a huge precedent that the seiyuu will always be the vtuber's soul and can never be replaced, and is still practiced to this day.

>>14572936
>He could sue them for slander
Imagine being this retarded and thinking this is true

>I doubt Cover will ever let Nyanners on a Hololive channel ever again.
No matter how much people here hate nyanners she would probably be the most likely of any of the vshojo members (aside from maybe ironmouse) just solely by the fact that she's the most popular one. Cover won't give a shit as long as she's still popular one that's all that matters. You have to be a dumbass to think they'll care about any of that drama bullshit.

>>14571572
You forgot
>Ollie menhera meltdowns on twitter and in member streams

>>14573129
He could sue them. He almost lost his income making ability because they wanted to throw him under the bus. They knew about doxxers for 8 months and warned nobody in the community. Realize they look like shit because of that so try to place the anger on someone else.

And yeah, Cover is very careful and avoids any risk of drama. They wouldn’t even let Kiara collab with fucking Pomu lol. They will never risk getting into VShojo slut drama.

>>14573024
oga yab? qrd? The only homo I vaguely watch is Shien.

>>14573024
it is funny to think about how there was a period where it looked like cover weren't gonna tell the chinks to fuck off

>>14570403
>A desolate place (PLACE)
>Without any trace (TRACE)
>It’s only the cold wind I feel

>It’s me that I spite
>As I stand up and fight
>The only thing I know for real

>>14571572
I miss Ollie Piss.

>>14573255
Oga wanted to play nkodice (shitty unity asset flip dice game based on Cee-lo where you make dirty words in Japanese based on the dice results). Cover doesn't let him, most likely because of the word "manko" (pussy). Oga, who's a game dev, makes his own version of it. It's now a rng-based fighting game with the dice mechanics, fully draw by him and without the character for "ma". Dev goes on a menhera rant on twitter and says the removal of "ma" is an attempt against his creative freedoms or some shit like that. Ends up cancelling any permissions to stream the game (I don't know if he went back on this). A grab bag of antis (vtuber antis, Holopro antis, Stars antis and other shitposters) use the dev's rant as a justification to be assholes. Oga goes on a week-long hiatus and comes back apologizing for what he did. Nobody talks about the original game ever again.

>>14573678
what's retarded about that is Cover's response. it could had been a nothingburger that will die off in a few days, but they forced the talents to kneel apologizing for it. same with Miko and Marine's yaoi yab. those weren't even the fault of the girls, it was just a malicious clip that the author blindly believed.

>nene dox aloe accidentally, let antis found out her old clips to the subsequent of aloe contract breach

now, nene happy with big cash and a load of fans, aloe get to mental hospital because of depression and bipolar

>>14573857
Good

>>14573844
I agree with you, but unfortunately Cover really doesn't want to deal with any fallout so they rather have the talent apologize to (hopefully) end the controversy quickly than stand their own ground. And Oga's case was much worse because his fanbase is considerably smaller than Miko and Marine's, so it was mostly people shitting on him than the all out brawl that happened with the latter. At least they stopped with the public notice of suspension.

>>14573857
Aloe could have not quit her job and just handled the 2 week suspension.
And she even has a new identity as Delutaya now but barely streams on YouTube. She could have had a million subs on her new channel from Hololive fans. But instead she only streams behind a paywall for some reason.

>>14573678
I've read somewhere that manko is very offensive so I guess this story proves that. What a dumb yab.

>>14573949
you clearly not up to dates, get to triangle thread and you will know why

>>14573024
another reason why the Taiwan yab must happen; if it didn't Hololive is obligated to kneel yearly. >>14572419

>>14573678
>I don't know if he went back on this
The dev was pretty much flip-flopping the entire time, changing his mind every few hours until Oga posted his apology on twitter the day after his now-privated stream
Also, the dev literally made blogpost mentioning that another reason he ended up going menhera over Oga's bootleg is because he saw people mentioning Oga's version that was created in only three days was better (this despite him also mentioning he was impressed with what Oga created when he watched the stream live)

>>14572936
You underestimate how retarded EN management is and how little JP management cares about which westerners are colossal fuck ups and should be avoided.

honourable mention
"MY BOYFRIEND- oh shit" https://streamable.com/82tfiw

>>14571086
Nux X Vshoujo drama doesn't, or perhaps hasn't yet to, bring any impactful changes toward vtuber scene tho

>>14575479
It shows that twitchfags are landmines and should be avoid at all cost

>>14575518
Agreed.
A company like Cover that is very cautious and tries to avoid any drama will see that and never allow a VShojo collab again. So there is the largest chuuba company on Earth that already will be impacted.

>>14571498
>>14571897
Or to be exact, Nobuhime vs upd8 was what put a final nail in the coffin for that black company, which already on its path to cessation after the Kizuner's clone wars

>>14575465
I mean, that is pretty fucked up but did it actually have any impact?

>>14573678
His apology was based, he said sorry you got offended now here's a picture of how far I biked while on break

>>14573844
Unfortunately cover is a Japanese company and that's how japanese resolve ugly public disputes like this.

>>14575589
Only impact is that shirara got shitposters on /vt/ when she was probably barely discussed beforehand.
In truth I don't think anyone really gave a shit except for the maybe one or two poor souls who actually believed her "woe is me, I'll never get a boyfriend" posting on twitter

>>14575518
>>14575561
I'm agreed with your statement that twitchniggers are landmines tho whatever it will changes how other corpos and indies tha based itself in youtube attitude's toward them are still unknown at least afaik.
That's why I said it hasn't yet to bring any impactful changes, anon.

>>14575589
Only here and in wvt.on her viewer base, not so much.It did start effecting her streaming to where people where people would ask her about her boyfriend on stream for a bit until she said that she had a relationship and was forced to reveal it or some shit.
She did “come clean” so to say and say that she was technically just idollarping so I guess that’s the endgame of the situation.(you can check her twitter @dumplingshirara think there is a tweet thread or a google doc or something but she deleted a lot or most of the things addressing this issue)
As A streamer she is good but very menhera , getting herself into problems is a natural and not unusual occurrence for her.She always gets herself into drama.

>>14575589
it will be an career-ending yab if someone from Hololive or Nijisanji did this.

>>14575752
Festival is still streaming

>>14575518
anon, are you seriously putting what amounts to a twitter spat on the same level as the chinkout or the Clone saga? Really?

>>14575752
First off, no.
Secondly if I had wheels I'd be a bike.

>>14575773
she might apply to next gen hololive and make it she is very talented I wouldn’t be surprised just watch out for the wontons in hololive gen 3

>>14575589
Sort of, it became a running joke in /wvt/ and carried over to the /vt/ divegrass cup causing a lot of /vt/ anons to catch wind of it and join in. It intensified after she did a collab with Lumi who has a lot of /vt/ viewers that brought it up. Then she brought some other drama out to make herself the victim and garner sympathy from /trash/ because it was in relation to a vtuber they dislike, I guess to get the heat off of her, because the two things were completely unrelated.

>>14575773
Well it should be, But EOPs are retarded for not seeing through those lying and hypocrates whore (or they just like drama who knows)

>>14575752
>or Nijisanji
hardly

>>14571396
Her fanbox of certainly isn’t lacking in supporters as a result, she’s fine.

>>14575752
Nijisanji has chuubas who talk about liking both choking and being choked during sex, how they like being creampied or there poor experiences with hiring an escort. Mito even made her gachikoi fuck gif by joking about doing enjo kousai. They don’t give a shit.
As for Hololive, if shit like Noel accidentally showing off a splash screen from her other ASMR channel, or Gura straight up using Ame’s real name gets by fine they wouldn’t really care about some accidentally outing a boyfriend.

>>14576017
God I want to be groomed by a hag as sex as Rindou. Kuzuha you lucky fucking bastard I KNEEL.

>>14575589
After this was released a few days later she had a jackbox game collab and one of the chuubas drew a dick with the quote my b-b-b-boyfriend.

>>14576275
Nips don't care because of their rampant cuckery is widely accepted.

>>14571086
>Sio 5ch IPleak
What can we learn from this?
Never pay premium for a blog, especially if it's run by a Japanese company. Always use a VPN when you want to shittalk your co-workers or collab partners.

>>14576484
Just dont be a career ending bitch. Fuck her for ruining Siro's legacy and forced bacharu into suicide

>>14576017
>Kuzuha got a puppy
>Rindou hates pets
This rrat is getting sus

>>14576575
The fact you could hear him screaming in the background of one of her ASMR streams is kind hard to argue against though.

>>14576686
>fact

>>14576275
>Gura straight up using Ame’s real name
wtf

>>14572936
Nux would get laughed out of the courtroom if he sued for that. That twitter beef wasn't even close to slander. Nux never was in danger of getting canceled either since the whores didn't actually accuse him of anything illegal or terrible. At worst a few more people would have seen him as an asshole.

There is also that "female" vtuber who outed himself as a guy. How is he doing now?

>>14576984
If you mean Nora cat, only newfags and news outlets were unaware he is a babi.
>How is he doing now
Legitimately is having sex with his fans.

>>14577133
>Legitimately is having sex with his fans.
Elaborate.

>>14577208
Am his fan, had sex with him.

>>14577403
Was his bussy tight?

>>14575812
Gino is that you?

>>14577470
Who said it was his bussy?

Calliope Moris shitstream moment.
It's high consequence because I now fetishise stinky girls and want to get head from a girl while she's using the toilet.

>>14576275
> made her gachikoi fuck gif
what

>>14577208
I meant Noja cat
https://fantia.jp/fanclubs/191435
Sex. With his fans

>>14577742
Yes she forced her gachkoi to have an orgy with each other to prove their love for her.

>>14577841
Are any of his fans hot?

>>14577876
How didn't she felt like a cuck?

The "all girls have boyfriends that post here" yab. They even admit they're here, and nobody seems to care.

>>14576944

>>14577742
Phone posting typo, she constantly does shit to make any of her gachikoi who were unicorns fuck off.

Would the taiwan yab even have escalated if Cover never decided to suspend Coco and Haato? It was an almost entirely obscure controversy up until the suspensions were announced.

>>14578233
How can el goblina think she’s worthy of dissipating any attention

>>14578218
wdsdib

>>14578289
She attracts terrifying amount of gatchikoi, especially during the peak of her popularity. I still see new ones pop up.

>>14578289
I don’t care what the fuck she looks like behind that avatar, I still want to spend a solid week engaging in nonstop sex with that woman.

>>14573024
>eventually unless you wanna see Hololive constantly kneeling to chinks.
anonchama, they cut out mentions of Taiwan from holoX streams already
They are still kneeling

>>14570197
Akirose getting hit by a Car. Her numbers never recovered due to being hospitalized for a long as she was.

>>14570403
Bless you mgrranon

>>14570403
>>14573366
I kneel

>>14578218
If you mean this, Rebecca is not her name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkvVS3C0hdY&t=12200s

>>14580763
based disinfo anon

>>14578266
The Taiwan yab was never because of Taiwan. A lot of chinks already disliked Coco for a couple of reasons (pandered to western audiences, never did exclusive streams for bilibili, possibly for her being American born/half-American), so when she showed the Youtube statistic they just used it as a reason to try to get her fired. Korone said Taiwan WAY before the yab, and there was also the case with Choco who "mistakenly" said that Tibet was independent and ended up with her just abandoning the bilibili account. They went ballistic on Coco because they really wanted her out, even the bilibili managers. EN's explosive growth could also be a factor in all of this and they lashed out on who they though was the biggest culprit of it's existence.

>>14570197
Uto lying about being an indie. She got saved due to her fans being as gullible/delusional as triangle fans.

>>14581240
Bilibili wanted exclusivity for hololive and steal their tech for china’s upcoming vtuber group a-soul

So they raised hell to pirate the talent and the tech

>>14575589
It made for some good laughs

>>14579637
Hololive is avoiding any taiwan mentions as a consequence to the yab. what i mean with kneeling is more of >>14575236 where Hololive must undergo mandatory kneelings to nanking or CCP anniversary every year if they want to stay in the chinese market.

>>14570197
Not very high consequence in terms of reputation damage but the Miko/Marine BL manga incident needs a special notice as being one of the dumbest fucking dramas in vtuber history.

>>14582738
it was dumb because Cover forced Miko and Marine to apologize for a thing that's not even their fault. the whole drama started because of a malicious clip that the author blindly believed. The best that could had been done was to address that Miko and Marine were maliciously misrepresented and urge people to stop believing at misinformation. the whole debacle made it look like Cover threw Miko and Marine to please antis, which always never work.

>>14581240
收到了喜欢的Vtuber手作的饼干,但是她已经有同居男朋友了

后边发现看直播只是因为内容有趣,如果有了做vtuber男友的想法,就会变得很无趣,很在意被V认知

这样会让追

顺便一提她的男朋友是她毕业前的观众喔

>>14573154
what menhera meltdowns?

>>14571142
I wasn't here for this, what happened?

>>14570197
High consequence, it's definitely between either Taiwan, and the Four Kizunas situation.

>>14571455
leddit moment

>>14586545
Her roommate during a deliver got a scare when a random hand appeared behind her door on stream and slowly closed the door. After the shock, she joked saying it would be creepy if it were an intruder before realizing it could actually be an intruder.

Obviously riled up the antis who keep saying it was a secret boyfriend of some shit. She even filled a police report so, heavens knows the fuck happened that day.

>>14587475
Jesus, that's fucked. But I wonder if it's maybe like the Towa yab where panicking and making up some lie just made the whole thing worse.

>>14571903
how was some vshojo at fault? some edgelord retard doxxed people and they're to blame? even if you hate vshojo (fair enough), how does that make sense?

>>14587600
She barely acknowledged the incident and did her best to ignore it, so we will never know what really happened that day, but on her streams right after the fact you could tell she didn't take well the response, on top of the afterwards of things with Haato and Luna. It was a lost-lost situation for her, even if it really was an accident.

>>14577678
what happened?

>>14586037
He's just a retard that got offended by a woman on the internet. tl;dr, ollie's said indogs need to learn English and they never forgave her.

>>14580763
>>14576944
yeah heres the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E--VQ2Ck3dM

>>14571572
>>Ollie Fart
That's not a yab, that should be mandatory to do for all chuubas.

>>14587600
Probably. It was a lose-lose situation for Matsuri anyways because she still had baggage from the problems with Haato and Luna, and then this happened. You could tell from her stream afterwards that it really took a toll on her.

>>14588806
Her twatter basically killed any credibility she might've had.

>>14589167
>>14588806
fuck... forgot I had already replied, I shouldn't have drunk during Mori's karaoke. Oh well.

>>14575589
kek I think I was there but didn't think twice of it

>>14571142
The Matsuri door yab didn't have any consequence. None of her fanbase cared and didn't effect her viewership.

>>14571142
Matsuri door yab did fucking nothing and the people downvoting her lasted like 2 streams.

>>14575752
Nijis dont pretend to be idols anon, they're just streamers.

>>14590676
>>14591101
I wonder why it came back honestly. It died so quickly, yet a month or so later it started to be spammed again.

>>14570197

>>14575752
It's a fact that some NijiEN girls have boyfriend but not a lot of people care about that

>>14587600
The thing that made Towa's worse was cover throwing her under the fucking bus. They should have just gone along with her management story publicly, while telling her not to fucking stream while being in a discord chat with friends on the side. Really just means most of the shitty unicorns fucked off early, which is pretty good really.

>>14592372
How is it good stupid manslut

>>14592438
Because, as I said
>Really just means most of the shitty unicorns fucked off early,
Unicorns should all unironically kill themselves.

>>14576017
He never said it, if he did, 50% of his fanbase (fujos) would seethe and leave

>>14578233
Are you saying she made a gif of her fucking to get gachikoi to leave?

>>14592485
You should kill yourself fake fan

>>14575752
Gwelu....

>>14589167
is the hachama luna yab even real or just rrat

>>14593014
What is the tab?

>>14593069
something like matsuri got upset at hachama because she went on a date with hoshikawa

luna got upset at matsuri because she thought matsuri genuinely liked her but matsuri flirted with other girls

idk if true maybe someone else can correct me but sounds like rrat

>>14593014
Haachama was half real. A real problem arose between the two (Haachama ghosted Matsuri and she had an emotion outburst on Twitter) but the fallout between the two and such was fake. Matsuri apologized quickly on Twitter and took full blame for it and they worked things out behind the scenes.
Luna, they apparently had a bad fight but are still friends somewhat. No one knows what the fight was about or the exact details of their friendship right now.

>>14593157
Well considering how crazy Matsuri was (or still is?) for Hoshikawa, I can see her getting really jealous.
Idk about Luna but they're all insane women anyways so maybe.

>>14593157
I honestly wonder if Luna did actual like Matsuri in that way. Matsuri didn't really seem to return the feelings.

>>14593157
I don't think matsuri gives a shit who hoshikawa collabs with. She's a pure simp, not a jealous stalker.

This guy speaks the truth. Everything else is speculation. >>14593174

>>14587600
>Towa yab
what was that one?

>>14592372
By the time they threw her under the bus everyone had already pinned down who these guys were and how they were connected to her previous life. From a corporate standpoint their action wasn't wrong.

>>14593647
>cover management apologists
I bet you also like omega.

>>14593587
It's been a while, but something like a male voice on stream and Towa quickly claimed it was her manager. People quickly realized it was a lie and Cover didn't stand behind her at all like they should of.

>>14593587
I forgot the specifics but you could hear a guy on her stream and she panicked and said it was her manager but it was actually a friend. The fact she lied caused a kinda Streisand effect and she was forced to go on hiatus.
Really fucked her early on, she had like Aki or Mel level of subs for a long time.

>>14593675
>its okay if a cute anime girl do it
Guess how do I know you people are also Sio, Uto or Meiro shills? Towa used to be a genuine retard when it comes to OpSec. Before that yab she literally had her webcam turned on during a collab
https://youtu.be/EiGuCR0kdAY
And then after those two yabs she tried to get in contact with Kenzokus EN discord via voice chat but someone recorded the conversations and uploaded it on YouTube(the video is now deleted). I know her being a dork and a retard is cute but its hard to blame management solely for that.

>>14593938
>hurr durr the talent
A company's duty is to protect and help their employees not completely fuck them over and lose their investments.

>>14593503
Not that I think its true, but matsuri was proper in love with hoshikawa

>>14593987
Cover's only mistake is not giving Towa her meds.

>>14593987
Throwing towa under the bus is protecting the other girls. Killing your company and therefore the girls working there to save one retard isnt worth of it.

>>14594354
>"Yes, we hired this person and we don't even know what she's doing, or who she's talking with, it has nothing to do with us, fuck that slut"
Yep, this will protect the company.

>>14593938
Anon, the Discord visit had management approval. That deleted video tried to sell it as something dangerous because dramafags are retards who can't into Japanese.

>>14570197
easily kizuna ai's, it set an absolute rule for all vtubers that the person behind the avatar must never be replaced while turning the king of vtubers into a shell of her former self. if ai didnt die we'd see more successful individual vtubers doing youtube videos instead of livestream-heavy meta we see now
>inb4 there's himehina, etc.
theyre midgets compared to ai at her peak

>>14589056
t. clipwatcher
>>14586037
watch member streams

>>14595076
Where can I watch member streams without paying

>>14588800
NTA, but let me give you a quick rundown

>Some brazilian faggots start doxxing Vshojo talents
>Cybersecurity gets involve and try to get the faggots
>Since is south america the ''cybersecurity team'' gets laughed on HARD, this goes on for months
>Doxxers decide to step it up and buy a Vshojo.org domain to scam people
>One indie in particular who fell for the scam ended up getting doxxed and swatted, and since we know how retarded amerimutts are she could've been killed on the spot by some trigger happy faggot.
>Vshojo KNEW about this scam on going but shut about it when they could've been put an ''please do not fall for this people and 'xxxx' is actually our webpage, thanks''
>Many indies got doxxed by the scammers so their info was published
>Comes Jewxtaku arc
>One of the doxxers sent a fake email to Nux
>Jewrubbinghands.jpg
>Nux sees an opportunity to make profit, asked his contacts and Someordinarygamer to help track the guys
>Batmanwiththepersonalityofachuunii.jpg
>Nux thinks he got one of the guys and his ego grows bigger and bigger
>Nux asks cybersecurity guy to post a video
>Cybersecurity guy is too much of a pussy to tell him no and just throws hints that he shouldn't do it like a highschool girl throwing hints to her crush and asking herself why he doesn't like her
>Projekt Melody is present in this exchange and approves the video
>Video releases and Jewxtaku is revered as the king of vtubing by his goons and his polyamorus girlfriend
>VSHOJO releases a thank you nux for your help statement on their official twitter account
>PinkCatwasAlwaysBad arc begins
>Fucking pink cat never liked nux and the video itself feels like he is taking credit for everything the Vshojo team did. Pink cat actually being a manager ''for some reason'' in Vshojo gets mad and vents on discord.
>Vt infiltrators post her discord rant ont he board
>It becomes public so somehow pink cat convinces the whole Vshojo to go against Jewxtaku with twitter threads saying he didn't have permission, including MELODY
>Jewxtaku shows the talk with the cybersecurity guy showing he was too much of a pussy to say no and that Melody was present
>All Vshojo ''apologizes'' to him

I won't tell you only Vshojo fucked up, THEY ALL did, the management, the girls, the jew, everyone took the massive L. The doxxers gave Nux fake info and he ate everything up like a fucking retard. Doxxers laugh, relationships were severed, Nux is seen by some money hungry jew and Vshojo like a group of menhera.

What we learnt:

Pink cat was always bad
Vei and nyan never liked Nux
Mousey had a falling off with Nux long time ago before any of this and stopped talking, some say that the jew got jealous mousey was with connor all the time and Melody was pretty much a hypocrite for not telling her friends he had ''permissions''.

>>14595294
A fail of epic proportions

Taiwan is a country.

None of these are ever actually interesting, it's only business decisions that don't involve the girls or schizo guesswork that have no basis or proof. The most "insane" thing anyone ever has is that a chuuba has a boyfriend or she was rude once.

>>14571903
Mousey has two Hololive collabs coming up.

What will pry the yubigate wide open?

>>14572114
>doujin yab
a complete nothingburger anywhere but Japan unfortunately for them, still Marines apology video was hilarious in a way

>>14570197
spoonfeeding thread

>>14595294
at least half of this is autistic headcanon

Verification not required.

>>14596649
Sorry Vt takes, I won't spoonfeed you, if you want to confirm what I said then look for it yourself in the archives.

>>14573366
> There will be BLOOD. SHED.
> The man in the mirror nods his head
> The only ONE. LEFT.
> Will ride upon the dragon's back.

>>14570403
>>14573366
>>14596968
https://streamable.com/sq95jz

>>14577841
Kek, had a feeling he was the type for this, truly a fitting finish for one of the four kings. Now I'm picturing a JP version of "PLEASE PLEASE" and I'm amused but disgusted.

>>14571086
>Coco Vs Bilibili/ Hololive Chinexit
This one entire situation will never not be retarded, no matter how much one tries to unfuck the entire story, it was a schizo shitshow in full-swing.

>>14570197
It's funny that the meds picture includes the oshi of the most unhinged fans here.

>>14598599
>Most unhinged fans here
The most unhinged ones are from SEA following SEA Chuubas.

>>14595294
More or less everything here was right except for the Nyanners parts (those are complicated, too stupid actually).

>>14575587
what happened between Nobuhime and Upd8 again? i've only learned about her when she had her graduation stream.

>>14592372
Let's clear this up, Towa was not thrown under the bus by cover. Pictured is an accurate translation of what she said during her 2020 year in review members stream.
https://youtu.be/pmMGhjks7vs?t=2783

She also just couldn't stand to be online for a week after it happened. She is compulsive ego searcher and already felt like quitting because she saw so many people made fun of her voice, a voice she herself hates.
Things are better for her now, they have been for a while. But that's were she started.

>>14598887
>Be Nobuhime
>Be with Upd8
>Management is incompetent AF
>Upd8 starts making merch and whatnot deals
>So incompetent that many of these don't go through or deadlines are missed/shitshow
>Completely ignore lesser talents and focus on Ai-Chan
>This went on for too long
>So long in-fact that some talents just quit because they felt they weren't even in the company at all
>Company in shambles later on as debt and drama piles up
>Talents being forced to "Get out" by management
>Other slowly coherced into quitting
>By forcefully deteriorating their mental health
>Again, be Nobuhime
>Get purposelly bullied/thrown under the rug
>Even your manager is trashtalking you privately
>Reach breaking point
>Leave.
>No need to explain what happened later on

>>14599290
Taking all this into account, it's a fucking miracle she went as long as she did in her reincarnation to go on another menhera breakdown. And even if she did, it was at least pretty much contained and now she has something resembling a support network to help her out.
Also a silver lining, her own experiences are what made her personally and physically brought Nene to the help she needed. I don't want to imagine what could've happened that day had she not done an intervention.

>>14599693
Meanwhile Aloe is thrown out to the streets to die. Thanks Nene!

>>14599750
Aloe's situation can be summed up as:
>But wait, it gets worse!

As much as I don't want it to be true. I can only hope her gen mates still try to reach to her AND that Aloe herself actually accepts whatever other help she is given. I do wonder if hololive still have their doors open to her.

>>14599750
Aloe has said multiple times that Cover offered help with her home situation but she didn't accept because of her mother. The graduation was 100% her choice, for better or for worse, and I doubt her genmates didn't try everything to convince her to not do it. It's a shame, and considering everything that happened after it I can't help but feel like she made the wrong choice.

>>14589097
Fuck off twitter nigger

>>14600872
You forgot to mention she said that with a gun pointed at her head by cover management.

>>14601007
Oh yeah, because Cover really cares about what she's saying on paywalled fanbox QnAs and streams.

>>14593714

surely not streaming your boyfriend is the #1 rule of being a idol vtuber. can you really blame cover for not 'covering' it?

>>14599750
I love how Nene derping and friending roommates through twitter is still considered a primary dox fuel, even though pretty much all of gen5 were identified immediately, including the triangle. I forgot the exact saying about repeating the lie until no one questions it any longer, but it's fascinating to it actually happen.

>>14589056
>ollie's said indogs need to learn English
That's not even what she said. She said that indogs should stop spamming that they don't know English and that flaunting their ignorance was uncool.

>>14601184
Well if they wanted to keep up the pretense of "idol vtuber" wouldn't covering for it make sense?
All this talk is irrelevant anyway, because Cover did not throw her under the bus. She made the decision herself to take the punishment and admit she lied when people on 5ch/2ch/NND figured out who, from her previous life, the 2 voices heard were and went after them.

>>14600872
Nene don't you have a stream to be working on?

>>14591101
Can confirm. I already stopped watching Matsuri before this happened

>>14593157
>people actually think any of these girls were really in love or fighting over crushes
Matsuri's roomate might actually be LGBT but Luna and Hachaama only play it up as part of their character.

>>14599750
>Thanks nene
what a faggot..
how about you become a man and start blaming the antis?

>>14602108
But that wouldn't make you mad.

>>14602055
Matsuri is 100% bi or a lesbian, the Hoshikawa shit went beyond Kayfabe. She cried about her on stream for real and Hoshikawa actually gossiped about them having a date that went poorly.

Haachama/Hoshikawa might have been kayfabe though, and still angered Matsuri.

>>14593174
Is Matsuri having a fight with Luna a rrat or confirmed? Because if it's real that makes me feel bad, that sucks...

>>14600313
Yeah, her case of menhera-ness is so severe that all the money and helps in the world would do fucking zilch. She relapses so many fucking times from even the slightest stimulus I am honestly amazed she can even function in any given manner.

>>14602235
Matsuri said it herself on Holotalk. She still seems optimistic about them though
https://youtu.be/ItZdAC1JRg0?t=71

>>14602185
Matsuri isn't that type of person generally. She encourages people she cares about to make friends

>>14602235
It's 50-50. They were able to make up behind the scenes, but Luna was apparently burned enough from it that they'll never get the level of closeness they had before.
Understandable, really. Relationship is a two-way street. Luna can't be expected to stay the course when Matsuri has proven she flip-flops even worse than the stock market.

>>14602579
>>14602443
Ouch.

>>14602579
If I had to blame one of them, I would blame Matsuri too. It's still just speculative however, I mean let's face it, Luna isn't exactly easy to deal with either

>>14602650
Sadly we might never know what happened between them. Just keep in mind the facts when reading shitposts and drama about them. They are both happy and still in contact behind the scenes at least

>>14596397
Because there is no decent place to actually research these because of the fandom's gatekeeping. Fuck you.

>>14602055
>Matsuri's roomate might actually be LGBT but Luna and Hachaama only play it up
dude have you seen Haachama's twitter likes? 80+% of the non haachama related likes are almost nude big tited anime women, she is totally bi