/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Cause Niji did it first and back then Hololive copied everything that Niji did but did it better

>>14538436
It's crazy how things turned around now with EN making holo the new trendsetter among the 2

>>14538436
Then can we expect KR branch? It seems like it's already set to happen with a lot of Korean fans in chat and hiring Korean speaking chuubas. It'd be weird if they don't do it eventually, after ID3 comes out.

>>14539699
There would've been a HoloKR branch but then NijiKR bombed so fucking bad it shelved cover's plans to expand there, and after the taiwan thing I don't think they are exactly chomping at the bit to expand into another east asian country with tenous international relations with Japan.

>>14539699
They wanted to do it at a time, but they didn't find anyone. There's still the tweeter page of holoKr somewhere I think

>>14539699
Nah, the gooks will prefer more IDs and ENs than their own holos since holos with gook heritage are actually the least popular among gooks

>>14538404
that can't be a real language

>>14538404
To save the EOPs

Can you imagine how comparatively cheap the ID talents are for cover? They probably bring some of the best bang for the buck in the entire company.

>>14540150
The exception is Kronii since her voice is great and sounds like their announcers

>>14538404
So I can masturbate to Reine

>>14539838
By that measure ID bombed hard as well and cover still opened an id branch

>>14539699
No that was cancelled
https://twitter.com/hololive_kr

>>14540358
This is why they need HoloES right fucking now, imagine hiring talents from venezuela or Peru? give them 200$ per month and they'll think they are rich as fuck. Also the Spanish speaking market is huge.

>>14538404
SEA has a huge amount of weebs into idolshit and nip vidya + Indonesia is the largest SEA nation by population

>>14538404
Because they're cute

>>14540244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM

>>14540866
HoloES would unironically hurt the brand, especially since VShojo got their first major yab from an brazillian poorfag scamming auditions

>>14540559
no they didn't, ID's members regularly hit 200ccv and have an upper limit of 1k viewers for regular streams depending on the member. KR struggle to break 100 ccv other than two members who speak exclusively Japanese. Like shit, one of them just celebrated their anniversary yesterday and barely got 1k

>>14541108
>Brazil
>Spanish

>>14538404
>Warga-warga yang berbudaya, Jangan lupa belania di sini, ya!

What a disgusting language holy fuck.

>>14540866
It'd suffer the same issue as the IN branch, huge potential audience but most spics are either poor as shit or dirt cheap

>>14538404
>He doesn't warga-warga

>>14540559
ID was basically Cover testing the waters of how large Indonesia's otaku scene is. KR on the other hand was well-known to not have a big vtubing scene once 2020 rolled around since most south korean otakus play MMOs/MOBAs/RTSs more than they watch vtubers. Not to mention ID has the benefit of speaking English where Koreans are monolingual like Japan.

>>14538404
The biggest viewer base outside of Japan was actually Indonesia in the early days. The Japanese somehow missed the part where Indonesians are dirt poor and so there isn't much money to be had there.

>>14541760
Except there are no weebs in IN whereas ES is 90% weebs

>>14541108
There's a difference between hiring people who will be BOUND to a contract and japanese laws than some random br faggots doxxing. And Hololive, unlike Vshojo, they talk about scams and other shit happening, they even talked about some chink DDOS'ing Aqua's concert.

>>14541167
Anon... most KR members reach over 100 easily. Only a few are below.
And them getting almost 1k, much like the own ID, is already big.

>>14538404
>Warga-warga yang
Holy fucking kek

>>14545370
anon this is after almost 2 years of operation, and that's not counting the various other disasters the NijiKr branch ran into

>>14539838
Dunno why China would be an issue anymore after Cover already cut ties with them?
The fuck are they gonna do? Bomb Cover? They'd basically tell the world 'Yes we blew up a tech company that gives Japanese girls anime avatars because they paired up with South Korean!' Which every country in the world would just look at each other in dismay and then go 'Alright, World vs China and other dictatorships who think that was a good idea.'

I guess it's just a convenient place for a Japanese company to expand into, since it's not too far away and it's potentially a giant market as the fourth most populous country on Earth. So kinda like China but not a fucking pain in the ass to deal with, and it can serve as a bridge for expansion into the west since it's a lot easier to find people who speak English.

>>14540866
>Make Venezuelan talent rich
>She gets her family kidnapped
ay dio mio

>>14546637
If the country were going to do anything about a tiny company slighting them (they wouldn't bother) They'd just stop providing SMD to JP electronics companies.

>>14546637
You misunderstand, the idea is that Cover might not want to expand into korea because Korea has similar geopolitical issues in the region and could end up chimping out just like the chinks did and force them to shutter their branch after they've already expanded into it

>>14540460
How about Ina? Are they hate her?

KR IS A DEATHTRAP, ask Bora. Those branches never do well because Koreans seem to prefer actual real live streamers and performers (BTS etc.) over anime. The only way, ONLY way I would convince any corpo to dive into that is no less than 3D modeled (like Hologen 0 or Marinasu) group of at least 3 girls that can sing and dance well. Full neuron suits motion tracking no prerendered mmd shit, that might work as there's a popular group that sometimes to virtual perfomances but people already know what they actually look like.

>>14539699
Sure, right after HoloIN.

>>14548928
>Bora
post discarded
never bring up that useless parasite ever again you piece of shit

>>14548928
counterpoint: Nabi and isegye idol.
Niji just sucks at overseas expansion

>>14541566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8p16w-5r8

>>14538404
unironically opchamma is an indog.
it's always been indog.
tribalfag, antis, idolfags.
Indonesia has great talents but their fans are the worst.
this board proved it.

>>14539699
why need? half of holoEN is gook

>>14545780
I'm not sure which one youre referring to but id and kr have similar numbers and in fact kr have more sc than ID..

>>14538404
Because Indonesia is very close to Japan, so it's cheap. It's the standard first overseas expansion for a Japanese company.
Even AKB48's first overseas branch was JKT48 in Jakarta, for much the same reason.

>>14553588
not sure how it works for the weeb market but when i was working for a global firm years ago, the SEA expansion route is typically to establish a beachhead office in singapore, thailand, philipine or indonesia. all 4 have significant number of english speaking talent pool.
singapore and indonesia were the most business friendly as far as regulation and tax. if you can afford the labor price, singapore is the better choice usually.

>>14553581
See >>14553588 + NijiID got several good deals with sponsors like xiaomi and got into several local comicon like comifuro so they fare way better than their KR counterpart overall

>>14540866
>the Spanish speaking market is huge
In viewership maybe, but not in SCs

t. spic

>>14539699
branding something other than EN will be a mistake.
if ina was HoloKR instead of EN, she would nowhere near reach the level she had right now

>>14558033
The bulk of the money a youtube gets has alwasy been from ads, SCs just get brought up alot because they are the only numbers the general public can get their hands on.

>>14540559
the peak of Indonesian vtubers content is just grabbing those normalfags and zoomers audience, unironically. some has proven this and even have a higher ccv than holoid, but i dont know how much they make from donation since most of it comes from third party. just follow the same paths as Nimu and you will be the biggest vtuber in indonesia

Nijisan and Hololive expanding into an ID branch before EN will never not be retarded, both branches are complete failures compared to their JP and EN branches. Moona/Ollie are the only somewhat successful ID vtubers, with the others just being knockoff EN members.

>>14538404
Yagoo likes underdogs. He is charitable to those who have talent but don't have the chance to use it.

>>14538404
It was before EN was a thing.

Cover tried to branch into China and Indonesia. CN ended after Xi Jinping's sharp rise in communist authoritarianism and zhang trolling. ID still exists but is clearly the worst branches. Ollie is an exception and is pretty much an EN member.

EN outperforms in numbers and revenue, and after the start of EN I am sure Cover realizes ID was a mistake.

>>14558033
thats what memberships are for

Same reason hololive has a "gamers" branch. Just copying nijisanji.

>>14538404
Because a Hololive Philippines would be disgusting

>>14538404
This language disgusts me....for that reason alone the branch shouldn't exist.

>>14562863
>ID was a mistake
Yet they get 3rd gen and as long they give more revenue than operational cost Cover will release more ID gens

God i hope Reine will tell her parents to buy Cover so that ID can get more support

>>14538436
Holo india when

>>14564746
>as long they give more revenue than operational cost
People on this board are retarded and don't realize this is the actual measure for "success", not big noombers. And considering how cheap a vtuber is to maintain, and how (based on various leaks) even someone who averages like, 100 viewers can make a good amount? Yeah, they're more than fine.

>>14538404
All those literal who’s and made up words

>>14565004

Anya is living like royalty right now playing any random kusoga she wants for 1K viewers and insulting backseaters

>>14565004
And they are living in Indonesia where you can live comfortably with only $3000 yearly income lmao you can't live with that amount in Japan or America for even a months.

>>14564746
What is this thing about Reine being rich?
I've heard the rumor before, but how rich exactly and where is it based on?
If she's filthy rich why pretend to be an anime girl in the internet? All the more when your character design is from a world-famous fujoshi who loves drawing manga for coomers and other fujos (not judging tho).

>>14539699
1) there is no money in Korea for a Korean branch
2) Koreans in EN already satisfy the need for Korean chuubers, just like having a German branch is pointless when Kiara exists. Hololive EN is more like Hololive Global.

>>14540244
I like it, it's like someone is ringing bells while talking about chicharrones (the mexican snack).

>>14566392
reine mom is a ceo of mega corporation television (do your reps now), also why she cant be vtuber? she can be anything she want as long as she likes, she didnt like money

>>14538404
they sounds like French but asian, still sound awful but better among the other Sea language.

>>14538404
I don't fucking know, all of the people I know prefer JP and EN over this disaster of a branch. Reine and maybe moona is the only decent ID

t. Indog

>>14554249
This is true for anything except entertainment/art field. Singapore has absolutely no media presence in spite being a powerhouse financially and logistically

>>14566392
Her mom is a CEO and his father is politician

>>14566392
>If she's filthy rich why pretend to be an anime girl in the internet?
Because she wants to? That's all the rich people does. They do things just because.

holoMX be profitable or are spics too poor to sustain it?
I'd watch for the sole reason that spanish sounds hot tbqh, not like these disgusting SEA languages

>>14538404
HoloID is HoloED but without the idols being massive sluts with no talent.

So basically HoloEN but it actually doesn't completely suck ass.

>>14566392
This is a no brainer anon, rich people want to do something exciting because they realize they can buy everything, form trips to whores, this puts her in an ''equal'' playfield so it must be exciting growing slow and steady, also It was confirmed that Anya used to be her maid and Reine told her to eat her out when she was bored and alone in the house.

>>14567186
you gonna hear the parents noises in the background fighting over food when the talent play some kusoge.

>>14554249
Singapore would be a nightmare for the vtuber's anonymity.

>>14567627
this is why, you'll never get spic holo branch or other irrelevant branch.
the best chance of having this experience is to have your native talker to join holo en, hope we got spic or ruskies in new the branch.

>>14567496
>HoloID
>Not sluts
>Literally have sounds of them playing with one another in the shower.

Nigga, you okay?

>>14566552
How can you say something so controversial, yet so brave?

>>14567799
what would HoloRUS be like?

>>14567186
Anon, the truth about spics is that they are not as fucking poor as you think they are or they portray themselves to be, they have money to sustain most stuff and have decent internet, the reason why they go to america is because:

1- They fucked up, got a child and they don't have a major education so they are stuck with having to work jobs with Highschool level requirement, making them leave to not take care of the child physically, send money which translates to a fuckton on spic currency and cheat on the wife with some white meat

2-They want to be treated as gods because they went to another country to work not their own bussiness but as minimal requirement jobs and when they return to visit can show off their money, which again, translates to a fuckton in spic currency.

3-Actually hate their own culture and have a PHD to leave the country and never comeback

The fucking Americans really think 99% of south american population suffers from hunger. I remember exiting the KFC and seeig gringos with their Let's save the world!!! T-shirts around a medium class neighborhood, they weren't helping the actual poor people of our country because they are in the highlands LOL.

t.spic

>>14568162
Full of Adidas and Gopnik references and maybe CSGO addicts

>>14538404
Because idol shit. The same reason why they chose HoloCN. snh48 and jtk48 are huge

t.idolfag

>>14568269
When will we get NYC48?

>>14567768
Couldnt be worse than japan surely

>>14566942
>>14553211

>>14568233
Metro 2033 stream in russian would be pure kino

>>14541760
I think ES as a scene is pretty much like ID, beeg weeb community, lots of comicons there but unlike ID, ES is one of the mainstream language out there, entering ES is far more logical to me than KR who can easily blend with JP scene

>>14567496
As if they weren't all lining up to get fucked by Connor

>>14538404
>Why is there a Hololive Indonesia anyway?
You do know Indonesia is the 4th most populated country with a vibrant indie vtuber scene right?

I'm glad it exists at least, since it allowed me to experience reine.

>>14538404
Reine deserves to be in EN, not that she’d want to be.

>>14568183
>they weren't helping the actual poor people of our country because they are in the highlands LOL.

You see, in the USA it's cool to hate poor people. Unless they're foreign, then it's sad and people need to donate.

>>14567613
> also It was confirmed that Anya used to be her maid and Reine told her to eat her out when she was bored and alone in the house.
Probably should not believe this, but that sounds hot so I want to.

>>14567613
thats bullshit but I believe it because the voices in my head says its true

>>14568598
This

ID branch is a good market actually,, thats why cover hiring more for GEN 3.
The sad thing is theres no superchat on indonesia, so if you compare on google profit, ID talents always on bottom... AND indonesia fans using third party to donate so its hardly to trace how much profit that holoID talent got

>>14567613
>Anya used to be her maid and Reine told her to eat her out when she was bored and alone in the house
hot

>>14569645
Everyone should use third party donation sites tbqh. YT takes too much and give too little

Reine is the daughter of the CEO of trans media, one of the largest media companies in Indonesia. she could have asked her parents to promote holoID on television and they would get millions of subscribers in a day but that would attract a lot of normies viewers which would damage the vtuber community.
She became a vtuber because of her hobby and the money from the donation was used for projects such as making covers and original songs.
Marrying her is the fans' biggest dream, the best waifu in Hololive

>>14569645
If it's a great market why do all of ID barely break 2k viewers? Even ollie and moona rarely get this and they both have 900k. For a great market they sure are having a tough time in getting views.

>>14570175
Read >>14565004

>>14570175
Most indonesian doesn't have wifi. They use mobile data and it drains a lot of mobile data if you use it to watch a stream. That's why when the ID girls are streaming they get low numbers, but if you take a look at their bahasa indonesia clips, they got big numbers.

tl;dr Indogs are clipfags

>>14570594
Should have gathered big ID clippers to work for Cover to make monetized clips in HoloID official channels. Win-win solution for clipfags and HoloID

>>14570175
If you compare HoloID to its direct competitors (NijiID, Maha5), they're way more successful.

>>14564613
least it isnt viet

>>14570896
I am still waiting for HoloID to get brand collab like NijiID but by the God i hope it won't end up with just Smartphone package box

>>14571105
Reine will make sure it’ll be a Holomie collaboration

>>14571105
Kinda hard for holoID to get smartphone collab but if holoID does get a collab brand I bet it'll be with ID tourism since if their JP senpais can promote prefecture tourism, why can't ID?

>>14571412
Man atleast i hope they can collab with Asus or maybe Samsung or Sony

>>14538404
My thoughts exactly

>>14538404
It's simple, really.
>geographically close to Japan
>4th-largest population in the world, and two of the larger countries, India and China, have much more heavily-censored internet
>significant amount of population knows English (helps with international appeal)
>while relatively poor, has a growing internet population
>one of the few Asian countries that doesn't hate Japan, despite getting invaded by them

>>14564613
Malaysian are always disgusting

>>14553211
>ID fans are the worst
that's true, it's either IDfag backseating your oshi or even shittalking

>>14571412
The way I look at it, I think Holo ID staffs are kinda suck at their job. And Cover doesn't care about ID too much. So, they probably won't get any local sponsorship.

>>14538404
Because some indog whores feed Yagoo rendang

>>14573977
Rendang is Malaysian dish. Why the fuck Indogs gave him Malaysian dish to make him established an ID branch?

>>14574041
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendang

>>14574041
anon, what are you talking about that country didn't exist.

>>14574249
Dude. Gordon Ramsay learned to cook Rendang in Malaysia. It is Malaysian dish.

>>14574347
cope

>>14574347
You mean this?
https://youtu.be/oTKXv191tYU

>>14574425
This one, faggot.

https://youtu.be/C4orafwazfc

>>14574041
>>14574249
>>14574347
Why are you seamonkeys fighting over food?

Malayshit vs Indog. Ah... Classic.

>>14574553
it's a good food tho

>>14574507
OP learned to cook Chicken Masala in Bangladesh therefore it's Bangladesh Cuisine

>>14574680
who's gonna win ?

>>14574680
We know your foods are shit Britcur fuckoff

>>14574695
yeah can confirm I learn to make Taco in Canada so Taco is canadian cuisine

>>14574722
To be honest, I don't know. What about your opinion? Who's gonna win?

>>14574793
Idk I didn't sure either,

Is it SEAnigger hours?

>>14561180
anon HoloID is performing about on par with NijiEN, if HoloID is a failure that makes all of niji's foreign adventures a double failure, and that's not even taking into account how ID market gives them a cheap low cost way to experiment in foreign markets without risking much capital if things go through

>>14574828
I place my bet on Indog since the Malayshit seems to be alone on this one. And looks like he's not replying anymore.

>>14567768
Actually no, singapore would be one of the best places for anonymity just because of how many people there are living in that one city, it's the same reason why despite pretty much all the JP girls living in tokyo no one has managed to stalk them yet. The issues with setting a singapore branch is the lack of reach, Singapore is culturally unique in the region with a small population that don't tend to spend much money on entertainment, so any singaporean holo would only appeal to other singaporeans and they just aren't big enough to support something like that.

>>14538404
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ASEAN_countries_by_GDP

>>14574851
Welcome to the rice fields, motherfucker.

>>14542288
Yeah, penniless weebs with pocket moths.
Also any talent from that part of the world would instantly be a yabgenerator. They thrive on chaos and stupid drama.
HoloES would be a larger mistake than doing anything with the chinks.

>>14575299
doesn't matter, outside of super heavy hitters like Lamy and Rushiia most youtubers make the majority of their money from ad revenue so as long as they watch their videos it doesn't matter how individually poor they are. Also see pic related.

Plus I seem to recall similar things being said about EN vtubers before holoEN was created.

>>14566392
The wealthy in Indonesia are truly wealthy. They simply remain in Indonesia because they can pretty much reign like gods and get away with anything, even murder, very easily. Extreme wealth, concntrated in a handful of families. Same story as everywhere but the disparity is more striking since the lower classes are so much more wretched than say in anywhere in the West. It's magnified and rendered much more starkly. Indonesia is an incredibly wealthy nation, but the fruits of this economic output go into a small number of pockets hence why from the outside it looks like a shithole mess.

Reine does what she does not out of necessity, but because she chooses to.

>>14538404
Why not. They're fun. Although personally I only watch 2/6 regularly.

I'd rather have another EN gen full of europeans to cover that timezones. with jp it's either middle of the day or earlier and en is evening, need a chuuba that streams around eu 5:30 6 pm consistently

>>14574984
damn vietnam's doing really bad

thanks to holoID all underage shitters from NijiID moved and stay there

>>14574722
it's not even fair comparison, indonesia have everything malaysia got but more, more land, more people, more natural resources, more cultures, bigger economy, projected to be 4th biggest economy in less than 20 years. like what?

>>14577619
And Nijinigger antis as well

>>14566392
>how rich exactly
her mom has her own Wikipedia page

>>14564473
>Philippines
>foreigners cannot fully own (or even control) businesses in PH
>required to have majority Philippino workforce locally
It's like China, but shittier because the potential market is virtually nonexistent.

>>14568301
Never. The west is way too woke/pozzed for that kid of group to form up.

>>14577619
Good, so the poor and the old shitters stays in ninjiid?

>>14578162
>foreigners (mostly globohomo kikes) cannot fully own (or even control) businesses in PH
Sounds based

>>14541108
>HoloES would unironically hurt the brand
Nigga we already have EN

>>14580741
kek

>>14561172
Anon gets it. When a single indie mogged entire corpo ID Vtubers in views and CCV they know they still have a long way to grow.

>>14577619
all their legit viewers also moved there :^)

>>14581323
>Mythia
She even mogs Ollie and Moona

>>14581323
Normies and zoomer are cringe. Good for Mythia, hope they will support her forever

>>14581719
>hope they will support her forever
They'll fuck off once they get bored which is sad.

>>14567627
why are you saying it like it's a bad thing?

>>14567799
>he thinks EN3 is still happening
anon...

>>14538404
A profitable shell company. The reason why cover is in Indonesia is to exploit cheap workers. Not sure what the minimum wage is in Japan but in indogland it’s like 0.50 cents an hour lol. Indogs will do the monkey work like admin and moderation.

>>14577619
Thank fuck we dont have them

>>14574041
Malon should unironically kts or suck bongs' cocks on daily basis

>>14581323
Her old model is SOVL tho.... I really miss Miti's old model

>>14571105
Wh- what if...
HoloID x Nissin mi goreng collabs. Yakiniku gyudon, salmon teriyaki, and japanese curry. I WANT IT NOW AAAAHHHH

>>14540866
Holo ES would just turn into them following Ollie's lead of realizing their home market is abysmal and to make money/get viewership they need to speak English and try to stream at American times. They would all basically be a knockoff 3rd gen of en.

>>14581323
what happened to that channel? she went from 10k average vod views to 200k+ literally with no explanation, it's like youtube algorithm just decided to make her successful.

>>14578053
>wikipedia equals rich
anyone can get a Wikipage made for them

>>14590998
No, not anyone! You have to actually be notable and the Wikipedia people are very autistic about this and will fuck your page bye-bye if the deem you a worthless piece of shit who deserves no such recognition in life.

>>14593545
nah. Anyone slightly relevant gets a wiki page.
who can forget Peter Svaar and Peter Andasarov

>>14590998
let's just say she's richer than anyone you will ever meet in your entire life, how about that?

>>14594396
sure

>>14538529
actually niji had an EN branch first :^^^)

>>14541108
>HoloES
>Brazil
Tell me you are a amerimut without saying it

>>14590640
She changed her model to sexxxx, plus popular on TikTok, yeah the algorithm help too... But most of her subs are kids who can't even afford membership

>>14594746
Yeah albeit in the dumbest and most haphazard way possible.

>>14540866
>thinking cover paying people in a different country almost nothing wouldn't be a huge scandal

>>14596450
No it wouldn't