/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

jesas, orca sc still keep increasing....sasuga orca...you and iroha is the gen SC powerhouse

Here is the number of gagged holos art (including webm) I have in my folder

Aki 3
Ame 12
Ankimo 1
Anya 4
Aqua 21
Ayame 6
Bae 1
Botan 2
Choco 4
Chloe 3
Coco 10
Echo 2
Fauna 1
Flare 4
Fubuki 33
Gura 24
Haachama 12
Iofi 1
Ina 6
IRyS 1
Kanata 4
Kiara 7
Korone 12
Kronii 3
Lamy 8
Laplus 1
Luna 4
Marine 43
Matsuri 11
Mel 7
Miko 5
Mio 8
Mori 18
Mumei 2
Nene 4
Noel 13
Okayu 7
Ollie 3
Pekora 14
Reine 1
Risu 4
Rui 1
Rushia 11
Shion 6
Sora 8
Subaru 5
Suisei 45
Towa 5
Watame 5

https://mega.nz/folder/5tg20KTR#tv_cJVAYWvlAmQkMCXE23g

>>14465415
Awful op, this is perfect.

Gura WILL get 200k ccv!

>>14465357
Nijisanji ASMR packs are less than 30 min of content for ~$38. Basically paying a little over a dollar a minute for some amateur ASMR.

>>14465574
She better get 200k since she havent been streaming for a while...

>>14465566
Lacunny...

>>14465598
>Patra
>over 5gb archive size
how long is this?

>>14465642
Purple brat, go back playing your valorant and dbd

Chat replay was disabled
¥687,095 or $6,060

Rushia will be the new Rushia or Kanatan? It seems like a mix of both. Kanata is a huge opportunist while Rushia doesn't get fazed by milking people. Or is she a Coco? Because the way I see it, she could earn two paydays this month that could get her up to $200k which is defeating Sans and Christmas bonus.

>>14465691
13 hours.

>CCV falseflag
>samefagging
ohnoitsretarded.jiffylube

>>14465691
10hours I think.

>>14465691
10+ hours. It also has a $10k asmr tool so the price is justified whereas that niji asmr is a blatant scam.

>>14465598
Anon, as much as I enjoy shitting on nijisanji, these kinds of goods are not made equal. People who are paying for these ASMR are paying for that particular chuuba's voice, not their quality. It's the same reason why certain figurines cost alot more than others despite the material costs being the same.

>>14465770
>>14465742
>>14465724
holy shit, that's a big difference for the same price

>>14465718
It should be back in a bit, youtube is still processing the stream.

>>14465569
Post it

>>14465819
Patra's ASMR pack costs ~$12
Nijisanji ASMR pack costs ~$38

>>14465718
>Chat replay was disabled
11 hour VOD will take some time to replay it's live chat, but still a good stream for Mori

>>14465775
Yeah, I know people who like their oshi's ASMR even though they are complete dogshit at it and should never try it again.

>>14465873

>Chloe finishes reading the SC
>gets congratulatory rainbow SC
How does she do it?

>>14466000
at this point I think some of her old paypigs are like tatsunokos used to be

>>14465415
What is the prediction for Gura's live numbers?
100k?
200k?

None of the girl with christmas costume do a reveal stream, what give ?

>>14465569
>Ankimo 1

Chloe was so close to 1m

>>14466062
It's a very simple outfit that everyone with a home3D model gets, it's not exactly special.

>>14466046
I've been seeing reasonable guesses that are 120k (low) to 160k (high). Anything higher is going to be a bit surprising, anything lower is going to be utter doomposting. She's definitely not getting her peak from last time, there's too many factors against it, but getting in the 135-140k range should be doable.

>>14465415
Which Hololive do you think will enjoy Space Marine? Consider Space Marine II is coming, who do you think would likely to do a sponsor stream of it?

>>14466046
Gura is using clickbait thumbnail so i guess 140k floor.

>>14466187

Botan is the only one I see trying it

>>14466104
Glad to see USD so low. Americans aren't supporting her.

Mori got the crown of the longest single VoD in EN, possibly in all Holo depending on how risky the JPs were

>>14466104
She got ¥1,249,121

>>14466187
Pekora getting invested in warhammer universe and the ideology of Imperium of man would be hilarious considering how Metal Gear affected her.

>>14466222
I'm still waiting for Vermintide II stream
Imagine Botan with friends slaying rrats ...

>>14466187
yeah streaming permissions ofr that might be hard to come by.

>>14465873
>>14465936

>>14465566
Does Chloe have what it take to be come the next Rushia or Coco when it comes to superchats? Or is it Gen6 hype?

>Aki Rosenthal:.. ;-(
More than even Matsuri, how do we save Aki? Numbers like this are unbecoming

>>14466231
More like burgers were working.

>>14465566
How long before she mogs Kronii in lifetime supas?

>>14466579
It's bad, but it was a watchalong of her vark vr stream.

>>14465574
It won't happen but it would be really nice after Mori and Ame's disappointment.

>>14463094
this reminds me, Hololive had a bunch of algo friendly memes during their time of growth, and I think the best one was the Eekum Bokum clip which has 13M views as of now and spawned an entire genre of clips for a month.
What's the best meme that came from an individual Niji?

>>14466269
Pekora 11:55:00
https://youtu.be/E0BB73G8Igw
Korone 11:54:59
https://youtu.be/P4xuSCEjD5Q
Korone 11:54:48
https://youtu.be/GeD-lKDv87I

>>14466679
Lulu's stare. You could just insert it anywhere without even knowing lulu.

>>14466290
I don't watch Pekora a lot, how did MG affect her?

Here part 2 of Chloe reading the SC of her first SC stream

>>14466715
I'll check Peko's by date since YT compresses anything above 11h55m, there's a chance that it was longer
others wouldn't fall under it

>>14466748
it was like a second debut

>>14466718
> and she's no longer there..
fucking hell, that's kinda sad

Here part 2 of Chloe reading the SC of her first SC streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiOqPbtqRE8

>>14466679
In terms of raw numbers, that dumb gura ankha dance actually passed eekum bokum.

>>14466748
Peko subs (mains now I think) should have a compilation of her all her streams.
She started with MGS3 and gave us plenty of kino threads during the entire playthrough. She was VERY much into the story.

How did numbers thread manage to miss today's biggest stream?
https://twitter.com/TrendAward/status/1469623037654110213

>>14466715
>>14466775
Mori still at the helm
still, this is only for individual VoD length
she'll be aiming at total length of 24h at 2M apparently

>>14466863
no vtubers

>>14466832
I nut to those numbers

>>14465775
Also why Hololive has plenty of voice mp3 where it's like 1000 yen or more for a 1 minute clip or a couple of 2 second sound effects.

>>14466586
>Burgers
>Working weekends

>>14466893
Kanae is a vtuber

>>14466595
Need 16k USD more for her to mog her completely. Seems pretty easy for her.

>>14466748
Probably the conspiracy theory part.

>gura's meme review
numbers?

>>14466046
Over 100k for sure but nowhere near her old record.

>>14466938
So one or two streams?

>>14466921
You do know when it came out it was Friday morning right?

>>14466775
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/E0BB73G8Igw

>>14466965
>Fortnite
And they say chumbuds aren't children

>>14466965
MEME REVIEW YES

>>14466980
I'll go lower. I'll say 94k as her peak.

>>14466965
35k

>>14466832
sugoi
I kneel to the shark. Imagine if she had a brain that was more numbers inclined.

>>14466965
Is she actually trying a bit? That's nice to see.

>>14466965
Oh gods. Gura. Reviewing memes.
Breaking 30k should be a given, the question is, how high can she get?

>>14466856
She cried during MGS 3 and 4's story
And anyone who can feel that shit deserves a sub from me

>>14467029
>>14467043
>30k-35K
Midget numbers holy fuck.

>>14467037
We wouldn't have such great moments as "What's 5 x 5?" and "9+11 =" though if she was.

>>14466984
Yeah, if her SC continues this way.

>>14466832
Chumbud here but you can't compare Ankha Dance to Eekum Bokum. You see, Ankha Dance is a derivative of an unrelated meme combining Holo fanbase+ that meme fanbase.
Eekum Bokum is it's own thing, and spawned it's own derivatives. This means plenty of people just looking at random variations of Ankha Dance stumbled unto Gura's vs Korone's being the source of a meme with many variations

>>14467059
I dunno if something is lost in translation or whatever but the story of those games is almost as retarded as Death Stranding

>>14466965
Fuck you ame getting gura to play fucking fortnite wtf

>>14467070
Is this a different type of numberrot?

>>14467070
There's no way she's breaking into 40k.

>>14466965
Can't help but thinking that 5/6 of the things in her schedule are designed to save numbers.

>>14466863
The downside of having few if any actual nijifags in here. It's the same reason why we don';t talk about any of the samll startups other than taking potshots at Sony's vtubers even though they'd make great case studies, there's just nobody interested in them enough to bring them up in this thread.

>>14467136
I agree, that's why i specified "in terms of raw numbers" and nothing more.

>>14467137
Well done anon.

>>14467168
Considering 2 aren't a choice (outfit reveal, full gen collab), one's a shill stream, that's a generous 3 streams designed to "save numbers" chief. Outside the outift, meme review is the only think that will draw bigger numbers than usual and be on her channel

>>14466965
>blue archive
Sponsored? They already tapped the holo fanbase, they should branch out more. The fact they are advertising with holo en again means they weren't satisfied with council.

>>14466579
I honestly never watch Aki, not even clips. For me she is just an unpopular Haachama.
What is her most popular clip/meme anyway?

>>14466187
>>14466290
Pekora would be kino asf, just give her the chainsword and let loose.

>>14467245
If not for Yostar managing the JP version we would have had Hololive collab ...

>>14466679
>What's the best meme that came from an individual Niji?
there is that one comic with Mito eating clovers that gets posted even by people who don't know vtubers

>>14467008
>gura tries fortnite after over a year
>CHUMBUDS ARE CHILDREN
ok chumbaby

>>14467245
Kronii fucked up her sponsored streams with them. Don't blame them wanting to go to Gura.

>>14467245
Pretty sure every holo blue archive stream so far was sponsored so i would assume so.

>>14467243
I actually didnt' even notice blue archive, dunno wtf that is. But new outfit reveals are 100% for boosting viewers, but just a decision made by management instead of the talents. So thats 4/6

>>14467245
nips already play it and id are poor

>>14467286
iirc that came from manga circles right? and yeah even I remember seeing it in plenty of places, so that one might have had the most spread. Sad that we can't get hard numbers though.

>>14467245
words are not enough to describe how disconnected most of Gura's audience to holobox
>gap in twitter subs
>gap in yt subs even to mori

>>14467316
What happened?

>>14466965
Pretty strong week ngl, except maybe blue archive or GTA the rest of the streams can get high numbers

>>14467397
chumbigs don't even watch gura
I think there are other avenues to shilling with holo en.

>>14467316
All the more reason to stop using holo en
Council must have really disappointed.

anyone keeping tab how several paid streams, turned to in-game collab for holoEN? i.e. D4DJ & Groove

>>14467444

What would a Gura numberfagging week look like anyway?
>Karaoke
>DbD (buff game for her)
>Minecraft
>Gurame collab
>Demon God Korone!

>>14467354
one of the big problems is of course that without any context it just looks like 2 regular anime girls in the comic so there isn't much to tie it back to Nijisanji

>>14467444
What do you think happened?
Low effort and low energy as always.
Her VOD for that stream is still at a 200k+ with no growth.

>>14467464
>I think there are other avenues to shilling with holo en.
Yeah just come out and say it already, you think they should use NijiEN

Iroha turn off sc...

>>14467542
And get 1k CCV? kek

>>14467511
>1-2 empty slots with ??? to allow for flexibility for buff games that pop up
>Unarchived Karaoke
>Collab on her channel on a buff game TBD
>Minecraft
>3mil celebration (never happening ever ever)

>>14467542
NijiJP shilled it in Japan, it's only natural.

>>14467567
And less than 50k views.

>>14467511
>karaoke
>unarchived English karaoke during Burger prime time
>trending horror game
>trending rhythm game
>apex

>>14467532
Why would someone watch a shill stream for some shitty Gacha? Even Gura gets bad numbers on her shill streams.
2nd Scarlet Nexus is probably her worst VOD and CCV numbers outside of a watchalong.

>>14467444
Bug with Cortana + W11 installing updates

>>14467444
Cortana got activated halfway through the stream and kinda turned it into a comedy skit about how shit windows 11 is

>>14467555
wow the button vanished in real-time, first time i saw that happen

>>14467615
>Kronii fell for the Windows 11 meme
Clockbros ...

>>14467578
Why do you think?
Yostar can't hire Holos because of China.

>>14466863
Kanae's connections goes so far, the same with Fuwa. He brought Kuzuha and Fuwa to stardom while he himself be their shadow.

In any case, as a holofag, it impresses me. But still hoping for holos to be interviewed, not just at an ffxiv radio show.

>>14467511
Gura could spike her numbers to hell and back if she actually reached out to big name JPs.
People do want to see Gura/Marine, Gura/Korone, Gura/Fubuki, Gura/Miko,Gura/Pekora and literally all of these girls have said they'd be down on stream.

>>14467532
Bae is the best shill in HoloEN.
>>14467532
Kronii is such a lost cause with everything. So much potential, so much self nerfing after ego searching. The thing that troubles me is she was totally trying to have everyone like her and just gave up.

>>14467180
You know what, thread's dead anyways, so why don't we talk about the indie companies? It beats doing the same old baiting timeloop again.

Here's a quick rundown on the ones I know
Tsunderia: The unluckiest en vtuber startup in the world, first to the scene after Hololive and Vshojo, the company that Kana and Rosemi formerly belonged to, and the first major EN company to debut male chuubas.

Phase connect: The Pippa company, half their talents are JP while the other half are ENs. Mostly famous around here for having Pippa who's basically a walking drama bomb/containment breaker who is simultaneously the pillar that raised phase connect from obscurity and the albatross hanging around their neck preventing them from further growth

Prism project: The Luto-Shiki company. Really really wants to be Hololive, Run by some chinese billionaire who appearently only started the company so he can larp as an idol manager.

Cyberlive: Relatively new startup. Has Lumi, the patron vtuber of /svt/. recently debuted their second gen.

Project Kawaii: The company that Hana Flores formerly belonged to. Don't really know much about them to be honest.

>>14467593
> ENfags "There's more to numbers than SC. There's sponsorships."
> Sponsorships happen and numbers are terrible for some of the girls.
> "Who'd watch that? No one cares about their shilling."

You do know that Gachas make a ton of money? JP made bank with the Azur Lane collab.

>>14463646
Case in point :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znl4KC8v_-g

>>14467593
Gura's worst VOD ever is 227k with her second metroid stream, even her watchalongs did better.

>>14467629
I haven't got a new laptop/pc in year and refuse to update to a new version of the OS but don't they automatically install the latest version for a new PC?

>>14467682
Bae really is the best when it comes to selling stuff. I'd even add Sana, but numbers aren't good for her to even reach a big audience.

MYTH has better success (even with their bad shilling numbers) than all of Council.

>>14466863
Massive views. I'm not sure it will lead to growth but great exposure. Kanae has been stagnating recently.

>>14467712
Sponsorships aren't collabs like Azur Lane was, anon, and people do in fact watch shill streams less than normal streams. Sponsors know this and when they pay people to shill, they rely on the "core" audience that will just consoom everything from the chuuba.
Shill streams are debuff streams, that's all I'm arguing.

>>14466986
Are you drunk?

The stream in question was 4 hours ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afhseq0JsJ8
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/superchat/afhseq0JsJ8.html

>>14467526
hm, that's indeed true...
what about meme videos then?

>>14467724
Yeah but it had better CCV than the 2nd Scarlet Nexus, where she barely broke 10k. It was just overall lower interest.

Just passed Luna.

>>14467772
Shill streams are debuff streams. I think we all can agree on that, but her numbers were awful during the stream. Her numbers are still awful after it. That's why instead of going back to her they reached to Gura.

>>14467675
The sad part in all of those setups is that it will be kino english and kino jp. Which is fun, but it makes it hard to do anything "complicated"/advanced as an collab. But mariokart with Shion worked out, so something on a similar level.

>>14467799
Not a Vtuber. Why do you keep bringing this asshole up?

>14467799
You can stop posting this here now. No one gives a fuck.

>>14467760
Where I live, you can ask for no OS

>>14467719
>nooo no one's going to watch a 5 minute clip
really? this can't be it chief, lots of Hololive 5-10 minute clips get good views

>>14467832
>>14467830
You know how we bag on seanigs for shitting things up?
I'm starting to think it's not just seanigs shitting things up, but spics as well.

>>14467711
Which one has the most potential to catch up with NijiEN?

Will Shirakami get tons of dosh if she gets a kin koikingu?

>>14467801
You have a very bizarre spin on it though. I could just as well say they looked at the numbers, saw Kronii got them a big audience and were like
>holy shit if this is what we get from the newbie Holo, bring in the big gun
You know, normal business logic of doubling down on success, not on failure.

>>14467879
I have a feeling, just a feeling, she's going to get a ton, and many may even have the message "Akai Na~"

>>14467905
>Kronii
>Success

Ogey. I already know this a lost cause. Move on.

>>14467879
she will get more if she catches it on prime time

>>14467719
Fuck, that reminds me. When I was first getting into vtubers (late 2019) I was watching both Hololive and Nijisanji clips.
The Nijisanji clips on Ars/Ex Albio development was basically a word salad on why you should care about it instead of showing it through clips.
Hololive on the other hand had shit like neighbor wars, hololive resistance, pekora tnt cannon, suisei ax murderer and shit like that which were well editing montages.

>>14467830
>>14467832
Still on userlocal.jp and INCLINING.

>>14467905
difference of ones seeing actual numbers, versus another spitting it out from his ass

>>14467801
You anons are so disconnected from reality. You know why Holos get sponsorships? They have captive audiences. You can rely on people like Gura/Pekora/Korone to net you a core amount of viewers that is both high and engaged with the content, whereas when normal variety streamers do shill streams their chat is 90% spent shitting on them for it.

>>14467936
NTA, but I mean, you shows me a shill stream outside of Holo that has bigger number first
Then we'll start from there

>>14467953
those are not vtubers, how many nijisanji it mogged so far btw?

>>14467918
I'll throw an akasupa when it happens. Friend has been too entertaining.

>>14467870
None of them are really anywhere close to playing on the same level, but if I have to pick one I'd say Prism project. They have two breakout talents, one of whom even showed up on the SC charts back on her birthday, and they seem to be on a period of constant growth without any major yabs that I can see.
Bear in mind that all of them are NijiID tier at best, so it's going to take a long time before they become competitive with NijiEN, if ever.

>>14467711
>Shiki
Dead subs galore. Think of it like this, imagine if Gura had a 5k average viewers. Her VOD view to subscriber rate is worse than Akirose's.

>>14467953
janny this one

>>14467791
honestly i am not that deep in Nijisanji so this is pretty much a mostly outsiders perspective. the thing that comes to mind is Lulu playing rhythm heaven and doing her death stare after a fuck up and some of the streams from that one weirdo girl who put clamps on her nipples

>>14467936
You seem to have mistaken this place for global.

>>14467953
Just because he has VT in his name doesn't make him a vtuber. His channel is a clips channel for some weird-ass bait videos. Are clip channels now consider vtubers?

>>14467959
I wasn't even looking at Kronii's numbers, I assume she had like 4k or some shit. She had 13k in this piece of shit? You are arguing this is a bad number? Kronii can't even pull this shit normally and 13k is what Gura usually gets for shill streams too. There's no way they were upset with it, and again, they would not double down on working with Hololive if they were.

stop replying to bait

Why are newfags so goddamn stupid to think converts are vtubers.

>>14468045
Blue Archive devs are a bunch of holofags. Literally have a Watame and FBK ripoff in the game.

Vshojo are the only ones putting up a fight against EN.
At the same time, Vshojo are playing by entirely different rules where their CCV is always strong as fuck, but they barely have any buff streams and events barely get more views. It's very weird to see shit like Vshojo outfit reveals not break 20k when they have 9k averages.

>>14468094
Okay anon, can you run it by me again why 13k is a bad number when it's literally twice what Kronii usually gets? What do you think these devs were expecting when they paid kronii, that she triple her usual?

>>14467963
Case in point: Kiara.

>>14468132
They expected her to shill the game. They expected the game to be the focal point.

>>14468098
You do have a point, but please remember that Vshojo is not a three man company consisting solely of Nyanners, Ironmouse, and Veibae and what you said doesn't apply to some of the others.

>>14468045
anon I was referring to the other dude and in favor of your point
>normal business logic of doubling down on success

>>14467963
Also numberrot. Severe numberrot.

We compare the shill streams to their normal streams but we should be comparing them to other shill streams. Kiara's 3k midget streams were the highest streams for that game.

>>14468215
it wasn't very clear, sorry

>>14467856
Don't put me with those monkeys please

>>14468132
It got those numbers because of the cortana thing, it's not a good look when a shill stream focuses on something that is not actually the thing being shilled.

>>14468184
As long as she did her job in getting people to sign up and play, they don't give a shit.

>>14468245
different branch

>>14468232
>Kiara's 3k midget streams were the highest streams for that game.

>>14468184
13k is a trash number considering Council debuted almost three months ago. They should be able to net more people with it. If she had been successful with it, then she would have gotten a second instance of shilling the game. Instead, they go to Gura. Even Ina got to shill D4DJ a second time.

[Cover news] Mori's usseewa cover got 1M views after 11 days, making it her cover with slowest growth

>>14468245
I don't think there is any overlap between fanbases, at most Koyori would get lower numbers if EOPs are watching Gura

>>14468299
Is that the one she made with Milky?

>>14468302
True. Koyori already gets lower numbers, and I don't think she'll mog Gura with them.

>>14468232
Pretty much. Especially since Holo sponsorships are usually:
-Japan giving EN niche JP shit to stream to an EN audience, and EN basically dominating any western streamer numbers on the same game
-West giving JP niche west shit to stream to a JP audience, and JP basically dominating any JP streamer numbers on the same game

Hell do anons think Ubisoft keeps paying Korone for every Ass Creed DLC because they're Korone fans, or because they can't see her "midget" 10k numbers? No, it's because her numbers are beeg, and not just beeg, but the best for the audience they're trying to reach.

>>14468325
correct

>>14468288
And that game won awards this year

>>14468325
Yeah

>>14466679
Out of curiosity I tried compiling all the holo memes that became popular online outside holo circles at the time (at least in the EN sphere) -

Early 2019 (hooks that drew people to holo from outside initially) -
> Miko's "nigga~"
> Fubuki scatman, Fubuki shorts in general (dead now sadly)
> Matsuri Cat Mario/Bandaid/talking about Quzilax (one of the earliest famous clips)
> Pekora TNT and prank clips
> Asacoco CMs, Asacoco in general

Late 2020 -
> Mikoboat
> Korone memes (Eekum Bokum, EN only streams --> spawned a buch of memes, prominent one being "Have Confidence").
> Gura's 'a' (Gura in general)

2021 -
> Suisei's "Hi Honey"
> Dancing Shubaduck

I'm probably missing a lot of "inside the fandom" memes, but I think that covers all the memes that spread outside of holo circles.

>>14468299
How does it fare compared to her originals? Red got it in 10 days right iirc?

>>14468288
Kiara had the highest western stream viewership for SMT V and ToA.
Bandai was so happy with Kiara that they gave her a bunch of sponsorships and gifts (Exclusive merch, iPad Pro, PS5 etc.) They also just won in their category in the game awards.

Uh, something's missing.
Where's the streams above 10k anon?

>>14468374
Are you actually playing by the rules for 2019? Peko clips and Asacoco stuff were not big memes like the rest.

>>14468374
You're missing ankha gura.

Where the hell is the top ccv chart for the day?

>>14468368
>>14468352
I hope that Milky doesn't let that get to her too much, she was worried it wouldn't get good numbers.

>>14468429

holo memes, anon

>>14468374
You're missing Ankha Gura and Your lord and savior Lightning McQueen for 2021.

>>14467855
its more about Niji clippers not understanding how to clip vs the length of said clip.
As anon >>14467952 said the entire neighbor war saga and Pekora's prank clips were like 15-20 mins, and people ate them up.

>>14468396
>>14468443
Died from numberrot.

>>14468454
Lightning Mcqueen then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoTbtvF1iSw&t=14s
Though YT killed it by turning into a YT kids video for a few days.

>>14468374
>Early 2019
>Asacoco
Coco debuted at the end of the year

>>14468444
Anon, unless she's literally here and suffers from numberrot, in which case she's a dumbass, there is no way anyone would feel bad about a cover taking 11 days to reach one millon views.

>>14468444
That song is way past its popular phase imo. If it was phony or atashi vampire it would've reached 1M faster. Roki and king were different since the arrangement was a bit different so they sounded kinda fresh

>>14467952
>Ars/Ex Albio
fuck man compare that to the treatment that Pekomoona got...

>>14468374
44.5

>>14467870
>Which one has the most potential to catch up with NijiEN?
None, Niji and Holo have more international appeal. With that said, they won't even catch up to the likes of VShojo, those companies issues aren't a financial but more related to branding, differentiating themselves, and them not understanding the business that they're in, and some are not even that competitive.

>>14468526
I meant "late 2019 + Early 2020" but forgot to correct it, my bad

>shark is clickbaiting
Is- is she numberfagging?

>>14468374
Where is the Pepeloni and feet clips from Chama?

>>14468597
>they won't even catch up to the likes of VShojo
I'm sorry, are you not aware Vshojo is literally leaps and bounds above NijiEN? They actually compete with HoloEN, even if they don't have a heavy hitter like Gura.

>>14468374
How many Nijisanji, VShojo or other companies have?

I do remember VOMS Pikamee "kill da ho" going viral.

>>14467952
Hey that clip where albio and hana fell into the same trap in minecraft was hilarious.

>>14468374
>2020
also a lot of marine and pekora clips
>2021
a lot of marine and pekora clips again; + gura fanmade animation clips
and all of mori's music are also hooks

>>14468539
>there is no way anyone would feel bad about a cover taking 11 days to reach one millon views.

It's less that she has numberot and more than she was worried that she would drag Mori down, so their cover being Mori's slowest one to reach 1 million might affect her.

>>14468424
I'm trying to figure out why clips and memes from holo became popular when compared to niji clips, because both of them had a bunch of translations and clips during the early lockdown months.
Those clips were gateways to a bunch of newfags during that time period, and I'm trying to find equivalent clips from the Niji side to compare the effects (if any oldfag nijibro is still in this thread, any help on context would be much appreciated).

>>14468039
They're original shorts, not clips. And yes, he uses a VTuber model.

>>14468628
Im not referring to EN branches. I was bringing up companies reach as a whole

>people genuinely think Gura's going to break 100k

>>14468673
Not a VTuber. He still uses his normal face in them and doesn't stream. Stop spamming him already.

>>14468525
I would say that Eekum Bokum covers it, since that clip was what got this artist into holo in the first place, and everything else holo related that they put out afterwards have had high numbers.

>>14468665
I think that big problem is that niji clippers can't into clipping. Clips are meant to be short things and niji clippers seem unable to understand that.

>>14468707
Just look at the clickbait anon, she will do

>>14468707
If Gura breaks into 100k. I'll sub to her for a YEAR.

>>14467041
>>14467168
>Ayame streamed 2 times in a week after HoloX debut
>Gura streams more than 4 times in a week after HoloX debut
They are?

>>14468707
i mean, i sure would love to see another rhombus

>>14468740
This problem would be fixed if Niji livers or kidneys or w/e were interesting. They'd then steal one or two holo clippers naturally and those would spread the same clipping practice.

>>14468707
Mori hit ~90k with massive overlap, so yes, she will

>>14468384
even compared to originals it is pretty slow, red got the 1M in 6 days, the only song that had a growth nearly as slow as this cover was the one mori made of Envy Baby

>>14468805
Alas, it went the other way around and former niji clippers decided to start clipping Hololive instead...oops.

>>14468725
He uses only the VTuber model and not his real face. He streams on Twitch too, albeit with a lot less views, but still using a model. Not to mention that a VTuber still counts as one even if they don't stream. They're called VTubers, not just VStreamers.
https://www.youtube.com/c/ChuyMineVR/videos
https://www.twitch.tv/chuymine/videos?filter=archives&sort=time

https://youtu.be/tOhUkuLjM10
https://youtu.be/BYBv4AgyiaA
New EN MC arc to bring numbers.

>>14468805
Akshually, some current big holo clippers used to clip mostly popular nijis or seiyuus.
Then Holo boom happens

>>14468909
Just stop shilling his channel faggot

So Chloe with just 3 streams as made 112,698.52 usd in SC so far

>>14468958
I want to see someone scrape those supers and compare them to Coco's Big spender list. I wanna know how many of these are former Tatsuoko that never made the move over, those that did but also stayed with the box, and those that left but came back with holox.

>>14468909
Again, no one cares. His ballooning is more due to his bait shorts than his streaming. Posting him here isn't going to change that since he doesn't stream. Having a huge channel doesn't mean he's pulling numbers. Gtfo already.

>>14468894
Red was the first new song of her second album, it's unfair to compare.

>>14468932
Good. I don't care if they want to play some shitty niche game, but they need to space it out or they'll choke their channels to death.

>>14469035
im making the comparison with red since that other anon asked if it took for that song in specific 10 days to reach the 1M, which is why i made a comparison with envy baby to make it more comparable

>>14468665
At the beginning there was a similar amount of clips from both sides, the difference was the recurrence and interaction of the characters, Holo has fewer and more recurrent characters, in 2 or 3 clips you can get familiar with the story and jump to the next girl easily

>>14468932
Only if they can do an arc. Also what happened with Gura wanting to play MC?

>>14468245
This won't affect the gold, but the number still be affected (even < 2K).
The higher outcome is what we prefer.

>>14469108
it's more likely to be her autistic way of saying that she cant log in

This Samurai is pretty strong.

>>14468279
still she'd benefit delaying it 1 hour since i can't see gura going over an hour

>>14469178
Lui...

>>14469178
Her debut was pretty weak. I guess people are just now paying more attention?

>>14469178
>that drop in subs per day
Guess she's not beating Gura's record to 1 million. She beat her hard in debut numbers but the slowdown is huge. What was Gura pulling around this time?

>>14468770
>>14468873
she won't

>>14469231
First 39/40 days

>>14469231
>>14469231
>Guess she's not beating Gura's record to 1 million.
Old news, the real question is if she'll beat Mori or Ame to 1M if she keeps slowing down like this.

>>14468903
>>14468955
seems the trend might be reversing, at least for smaller clippers. There's plenty of holo clippers now, so niji folks seem to be looking for niji moment clippers.

>>14469299
There's something unnatural about just how straight of a line Gura's growth is. I'll never understand Youtube audiences.

>>14469108
Gura will likely do a short cameo in one of those en mc streams happening

>>14469299

>>14469176
That happened quite long ago during the server merge where she can’t login a few times and even kick out of the server during streams. She did mention the login problem recently but I can’t recall when, guess the server update is the problem?

>>14469218
she's very likeable and being sporty and genki is actually a rare combo in Holo (Nene/Shuba/Korone and has-beens like Matuli and Aki are the only ones that come to mind)

>>14469080
any insight as to the more popular niji clips/memes of the time? the one I remember the most was that one Mito video where some dude dressed up as her or something. Oh and Hana Macchia's dad.

>>14469345
It's just what happens when something goes viral.
Cute+past life+mems+her really good singing propelled her into the algorithm ,and the damn thing hasn't unclutched her since when it comes to subs

>>14469345
unironically Baby Shark + significant roommate

>>14469420
>and the damn thing hasn't unclutched her since when it comes to subs
You can thank clippers for that since they pretty much got a revolving door credit line on her name.

>>14469366
It's sill insane that Gura managed to snipe the first to 1M in hololive when Fubuki and Korone were so close.

>>14468707
If Mori was able to do 89k while having like a dozen contending JP streams (including all of holoX). Gura should be able to do 140k with only the coyote streaming.

On the topic of clippers, is it just me who feel like the usual clippers get way less views nowadays?

>>14469430
Docity pop/old songs affect too? Like some kind of reverse gap moe

>>14468374

2021-

> Botan saying "I need ammo"

草

>>14469491
And the JPs were really fast back then, i mean Korone with 152K monthly growth is insane and far above anyone today outside of debuts.

>>14469550
JP to EN translations clips are reclining. They either pull shit number per video or really good, no strong average

>>14469392
shut up faggot

>>14469567
it definitely hooked people to stay after a relatively uneventful debut

Chloe turned off sc too...

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>74,480: Amelia (Hololive)
>41,640: Fubuki (Hololive)
>39,985: Matsuri (Hololive)
>36,937: Fubuki (Hololive)
>29,166: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,941: Iroha (Hololive)
>27,435: Miko (Hololive)
>26,034: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,580: Kiara (Hololive)
>23,329: Gatchaman (Indie)
>22,263: Noel (Hololive)
>21,641: Miko (Hololive)
>21,095: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,662: Flare (Hololive)
>19,350: Laplus (Hololive)
>19,214: Noa (VSPO)
>18,745: Iroha (Hololive)
>17,466: Uruha (VSPO)
>17,464: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,226: Chloe (Hololive)
>15,387: Baelz (Hololive)
>14,750: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,807: Mio (Hololive)
>13,330: Suisei (Hololive)
>13,217: Hinano (VSPO)
>12,842: Rushia (Hololive)
>12,663: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,572: Sumire (VSPO)
>12,385: Noel (Hololive)
>12,305: Calli (Hololive)
>11,346: Botan (Hololive)
>11,134: Towa (Hololive)
>10,816: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,323: Lui (Hololive)

A very unusual one with 4 VSPO in the top and only Kuzuha representing Nijisanji

>>14469567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jOmvTsWqGs
It's got 3.4 million views, anon. Some holos will never get a song with this much, even a cover.
You tell me.

>>14468650
more than that, which niji chuubas are the meme generators for them?
I'm guessing Iinchou is one, but she hasn't had much traction in the EN sphere for some reason.
Are all Niji memes just JP culture oriented?

>>14469550
>>14469589
Did they?

>>14469766
holy shit FBK

>>14469766
Hololive: 28
VSPO: 4
Nijisanji: 1
Indie: 1

>>14469491
There people swearing up and down that Fubuki or Korone were going to win the 1M and many people got extra hostile at the suggestion that Gura might actually beat both of them when people saw how quickly she went to 400k, only to get BTFO'd when they realized the train was coming in fast and had no breaks.

Man, I still remember the /jp/ salt mining. Even Twitter wasn't devoid of it.

>>14468245
Chumbuds will now have an excuse if Gura doesn't manage to get decent numbers

>>14469836
Genuinely confused, what were the top nijis doing today?

>>14469766
>top10 holo sweep prevented by an indie
Are nijis even trying anymore?

>>14468932
PEKORA PLEASE. THE 50 WITHER RAID KINO, MAKE IT HAPPEN

>>14469824
She's been on the biggest hotstreak

>>14469766
VSPO is mogging Kuzuha lmao. He got mogged by Mel, Fauna, Moona and VSPO there is even anything left?

>>14469766
Huh, where did all the niji audience from yesterday go? Only one stream over 10k?

These superchat readings are going to tank their medians really hard.

>>14469766
i remember that anon wanting hololive to fall and men dominate the industry... I guess the jinx works too well against them

>>14469874
Sorry Peko~, Mane chan told me the outfit is delayed again Peko. Also time to play something fucking weird or stupid again.

Gura will have two shill streams next week

>>14469852
>Man, I still remember the /jp/ salt mining
You don't have to "remember" it anon. The entire shitposting about CCV, the Gura vs Pekora loops, ENschizo. These are all a direct consequence of how mad /hlg/ got at what happened (and at the people shitposting against their oshis with the numberfaggotry). The seethe of Gura reaching 1 million first, and I say this with no irony, birthed this general.

>>14469852
yeah i was salty too
jp senpai who worked for 3 years got disgustingly robbed

>>14469836
>Hololive: 28
People have ZERO idea of how hot Hololive is running these days.

I recall a day (in October?) a Top 10 couldn’t be formed because there were no 10 streams over 10k

>>14469949
One is a buff shill stream since it's a collab with Groove Coaster and she's in the game

>>14469906
EN does superchat readings and watch-alongs all the time.

>>14469933
This have nothing to do with the outfit, I want to see some action in MC
50 Wither raid gonna be one hell of a stream

>>14469906
A small CCV sacrifice to solidify her grip on gachikoi

>>14469766
>Hololive needs 6 more wins to win the month

>>14469836
>>14469972
And remember, hololive only has 54 talents. That's a full half of them who got more than 10k today.

>>14469951
Don't forget Gura beating Kizuna to 3M, that was another salt mine, even outside this shithole.

>>14468374
>Dancing Shubaduck
Reddit Duck hasn't done anything of relevance ever.

>>14469900
They’re tourists who only show up for tournaments.

>>14469022
t. butthurt jannywhalefag
She was projected to pass him before, but never got anywhere close. That's why she had him removed from the main VTuber rankings even though he used to be listed there before and was on top of the sub growth chart for weeks.

>>14469900
they went back to watch hololive kek

>>14470057

>>14469967
That's the difference between being in a developed market and the gold rush to a new one. HoloMyth also becoming the first million generation only cemented it (even with Kiara being the numbers poison that she is).

>>14469766
>Miko: 27,435
>Subaru: 26,034
Reddit Duck supporters have been awfully quiet today. Hmmm...

>>14470143
>>14470057
this one is a spic btw

>only 1 niji on ranking
>suddenly back to holo vs holo

>>14470169
>a spic hating on Subaru
Just what did she do to him? Oh wait, is this the 35P that went full schizo?

>>14470011
Ezpz
We have 1 more day of EN outfit
Potential Peko outfit
Whatever Peko planned to do on Christmas
And even without all of that we still have FBK to rely on

>>14470227
Dont forget Ayame's birthday

>>14469766
Nose above Kuzuha!

>>14469972
Take me back, this thread was far more tolerable back in October when things were slow. Sure there was a bit of doomposting, but it's miles better than the infinite timeloops we're stuck in right now.

>>14470222
The worst thing about this debut is that this thread inherited a lot of /jp/ schizos. Hopefully they go back once the debut hype is gone.

>>14470227
2 more outfit days, Kiara might even get an alright number like 50 or 60k after what happened.

>>14470246
>>14470312
Yeah Hololive definitely will win this month. No way those events can flop

>>14470259
>>14470270
You and me both. Can't even have a decent discussion about the smaller agencies without having retards bitching and moaning about their big numbers not being discussed.

>>14470312
And hopefully a funnel to Myth's Jackbox collab on Gura's channel afterwards the reveal

>>14470227
6 am JST on Monday maybe good for Kiara.
JP wake up earlier for work, so they don't force themselves like weekend.

>>14470365
More reasons to believe Hololive will win, no contest

>>14470365
Better for NA too, no school/work for far more people, and also too early for many to be going out for the night.

>>14470011
The question isn't "Will Hololive win the month?".
The question is "How many days will Hololive win during the month?".

>>14470434
sundays tend to be weak for Gura. NA is weird man

>>14469933
> Mane Chan: If you play 50 more shill games we'll talk about setting a date for your outfit. You don't want to let your fans down, right?
> Pekora: ...

>>14469766
Holo ... Hold the fuck on
GATCHAMAN IN 10TH? HOW? THE FUCK DID HE DO?
4 VSPO ENTRIES?
NIJI? NO NIJI IN SIGHT?
THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

>>14470483
What is actually the problem with Pekora's outfit? It can't be Cover given that everyone and their mother get new outfits, is Pekora super picky or something?

>>14469303
in all honesty, i can see the orca getting to 1M faster than Ame but slower than Mori

Ina 2 hrs prior : 4,451
Gura 5 hrs prior : 2,378 - core chumbuds though

>>14470545
>2,378
discord alternative

>>14470509
Gatchaman - one of the biggest indie +3D reveal

>>14470545
I'm actually interested if Ina gets more than Ame this time.

>>14470525
We will not talk about this again. No one know the real reason and it's all rrats, end of story

>>14469766
Fbking

>>14470468
NA Sundays is NFL day and it's on season right now. I don't watch it, but you could have a bunch of Americans who may have overlapping interests there depending on when she streams. Sunday is also a traditionally heavy day for PPV premieres (HBO basically made it a point to own that prime time slot).

>>14470509
Gatchaman is one of the biggest indies out there as a convert and he had a 3d reveal/collab today
VSPO did some kind of relay thing going on, so that's basically the upper limit of the company all focused onto one stream.

>>14469015
Many tatsunokos who play around with SCs do so with several different account names. You'd be hard pressed to find any standing out under a single name.

Also the ones I did notice were throwing SCs at Yamada instead, which makes sense since she's the one with the SC banter skills.

>>14469766
the jops are unhinged

>>14470688
Kek

>>14470688
The pillar of Nijisanji...

>fubuki actually beat festival's 3D live by fishing pokemons

>>14470740
His back... is giving up...

>>14470688
what site?

>age restriction removed
>views start pumping again
That was a big hit tho, can it still reach 1M?

>>14470808
We will get to see the downfall of Nijisanji in our lifetime
Your thoughts?

>>14470846
>http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/archives/12940207.html
particular thread

>>14470878

>>14470889
thanks

Kuzuha and the occassional big event collab can only carry you so far, nijisanji. Do something or soon your numbers will be vestigial at best.

>>14470775
Matsuri graduation when?

>>14470255
kuzuha is weak, she proved it

>>14470870
Gura will boost everyone as yt bot recommends the rest

>>14470878
It will happen eventually if they don't get new stars but not anytime soon

>>14470143
Of course, they're all you.

>>14466086
Yeah

>>14470955
Kuzuha and Kanae had been in business for 3 years already along with Mito. Fuwa 2 years, Lize almost 3 years. They haven't cultivated any news stars since Hololive too root in the Vtubing space last year. What they're trying is to cultivate the image/brand, not talents but even then, they're also failing. Meanwhile, in the span of one year, Hololive got 3 new Kuzuhas. Gura, Chloe and Laplus. 5 new Kanaes - Mori, INA, Kronii, Mumei, Iroha, IRyS. Sure the new Kanaes aren't breaking 10ks on the regular, but they're getting there.

>>14470525
Can't be anyone else but Cover's fault. Pekora and Hagure Mama mentioned many times already since the 26th February of 2020(the first time a new outfit for her has been mentioned, yeah) on stream that she wanted a new outfit.
We can't guess anything else besides that as Pekora didn't give any clue as to who's fault that truly is.

>>14471340
What are Kuzuhas and what are Kanaes?

>>14471399
>>Can't be anyone else but Cover's fault.
That doesn't follow given that everyone else gets new outfits regularly, if it was Cover's fault it should affect more girls.

Now this is guts.

>>14471405
NTA but I think that Kuzuhas means 20k plus and Kanaes means 10k plus.

>HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
Nips seem to have fall HEAD OVER HEELS for Ame new outfit!

Now I get why it ended up trending

>>14471443
>>14471399
What if she request a new model from the ground up? Like a future/grown up version of her with the outfit or an alternate form
Knowing Pekora she could totally request something like that

>>14471340
That's a pretty harrowing thought. Even Fuwa isn't an auto 10k liver (if I remember correctly). Nijisanji reminds me a lot of current era WWE. Despite Austin and Rock literally saving the company from WCW during the monday night wars, Vince never really liked having Stars be above the brand. Cena and Brock are probably the last true crossover superstars that the company has had in the past 2 decades since everytime a new guy starts getting hot (Nak, CM Punk, Braun, even fucking Hurricane when he had those promos with Rock), they'd bury them as much as possible. Fortunately for WWE, their wasn't a Hololive adjacent that they had to contend with so the product went to shit for so many years.

>>14471443
>>14471532
I thought we weren't going to time loop this again?
As much as I like to speculate we will never know who is at fault or what has caused the delay. It can be anything from Cover being incompetent, Pekora being picky, Cover rejecting designs since they own the character, manager rotating and not doing a proper job to make sure the work progresses. We will never know unless Pekora spills the beans, because Cover wont.

>>14471532
I would like her to do that as well, just to show that she's absolutely not dependent on Cover. She already did so with the jail outfit, so why not doing it again?
Anyway she said she had planned a particular 3D stream that nobody has ever done before, so I would like to see that before shitting on Cover.

>>14470091
Listen here, Spic. A nadie le importa tu retardación mental con este chingado. He's never going to be considered a vtuber. Btfo of the thread already.

FUCKING KEK!

Smoeone please help me translate >26 there, I took a liberty but I'm not sure it means what I said it mean

if this post >>14408591 is right, below are the recent en waiting rooms, 1 hr mark before stream:
>Mori had around 6k in waiting room at this point, chicken is sitting at 3.8k.
Ina is at 5.4k waiting, with still 78 minutes left. It aint looking bad so far

>>14471657
No I just want to make up a reasonable rrat so people can stop arguing about this

>>14471453
Hope she is prepared for an invasion of angry chumbuds for overlapping with their queen.

>>14469906
That's the flaw with tracking peak CCV medians as a metric more than anything.

>>14471770
>invasion of angry chumbuds
you mean you and your seanigger cousins?

>>14471702
I think she just lack ideas. Like she probably doesn’t know what she want so she just one up with ideas after ideas and can’t settled for one outfit
That’s the most logical explanation. I would rather not timelooping this again

>>14471453
Why not just wait an hour to catch the funnel of what is likely to be over 100k viewers? Just stupid.

>>14471759
To be fair, Ina's waiting rooms are always infested with Inacord, having more people in prechat compared to others is common for her.

>>14471759
Yes, it being a weekend as opposed to a weekday is definitely to Ina's benefit.

>>14471853
her stream will be longer than 1hr, shed catch it anyways.
Her problem with postponing is that she doesnt want to overlap with her own gen

>>14471764
>rrat
>Reasonable
Pick one

>>14471828
Lacking ideas even though she was the only one who decided to do a PekoNews stream on the 31th of March, followed by a non-official outfit reveal the day after(without the help of her manager/Cover)? Sure...
She's far from lacking imagination for her streams.

>>14471853
Kek. That makes way more sense. We'll see if she opts to do that or insists on overlapping.

>>14471937
Oh, that must have just went up because I didn't see it when I checked earlier.
Yea, overlapping Gura > overlapping gen-mate, fair enough.

>>14471747
Basically STFU GTFO

>>14471747
Sadly this is the most "liked" matome comment I ever saw on matome
>M-Matuli...
Maybe I fucked up the translation, N9999 and all. I hope I did

>>14471974
I mean meme outfit have an obvious theme so it’s easier to come up with. Streaming outfit however have a lot of theme to choose from so she probably don’t know what kind of outfit would look good
She gonna be using it often on stream so it might as well be something iconic. At least that is what I think

>>14471764
so a rrrat?

>>14471443
That's just Pekora being picky. Nothing can explain she being the only who didn't get a new outfit

>>14472193
Pretty much. So people can shut up about this
This whole outfit fiasco brought more harm than good to Pekora reputation and I honestly just want everyone to forget it, trash the outfit, whatever, just stop spamming about it

Ina 1 hr prior : 6,218

>>14472316
Is this good or bad?

>>14472362
if you have to ask that you have no business being in the numbers thread.

>>14472316
Shit look like ina is going to beat mori and will probably be the only myth to break their previous outfit numbers. I'm thinking 105K for ina plus it is on good time for everybody.

>>14472362
estimate 80K at least

>>14471453
wait this coyote is gonna stream 5am?

>>14472417
Right
I should look into waiting room number more.

TOP KEK, I won't even bother translating everything said on matome about Matsuri but DAAAAAMN they held a grudge about the whole
>Matsuri menhera outburst against Haachama and Rushia
episode

Even this board let it go (focusong more on "the hand of the robber" episode) but they held tight on the grudge

>>14472412
That's a bit ambitious, but Ina certainly does have the best chance of equaling her previous peak so far.
I'm personally going to aim a bit lower, she'll get 65-70k as a floor.

Hope FBK and Robocco will end right before the formal reveal part

>>14472362
>>14472316
looks like the same as mori, but they had very different timezones so dont trust it too much

>>14472417
>>14472471
I bet on Ina being unexpectedly high
No calculations, this is just my intuition

>>14472441
yeah that's the flip side of the box push, if you go against the box the people who supported the box will turn on you and treat you just like any other outside hostile force.

>>14472217
Then I hope the outfit will actually be good then, she should know full well that it must be, or else she will embarrassed herself in front of hundred thousands of people
But that should be enough about Pekora outfit so I will say no more