/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14420814
Competetion is a good way to improve yourself

>>14420814
>Bait harder Laplus-chan!!!

>>14420814
Laplus is my wife don't make fun of her

Lui-nee doesnt like naughty kids who misbehave

>>14420814
That's mean they will push themselves to work harder unlike those council whores

>>14420814
This is a business, competition is healthy.

>>14421020
Great oshi.

>>14420814
>People thought the demon loli would be the leading subs
>Turns out it was the cute orca girl all along
fucking glorious

>>14420814
man, council really conditioned en shitters to expect lack of ambition huh

>>14420814
>"I love you loli-sama!"
ULTRA
FUCKING
BASED

>>14421221
ENniggers be like
>L-let her do whatever she is comfortable with man..

>>14420814
I was almost typing >otakomori

>>14421221
>Popularity contests with no substance
>"Ambition"
I just want entertaining content, Council provides that

quit shilling your clips, youtube forces them in my face enough

>>14420975
"improving" here is guilt-tripping your fanbase into sending you more money by comparing yourself to others

>>14421362
Lol lmao good bait.

>>14421221
you should see what vwhorejo has made of their slaves

>>14421362
>entertaining
kek

>>14420814
CAM ON LAPLUS, SCORE SOME GOALS!!

Why do people hate that the gen that was handed the biggest ever starting position and is actually using it? Not everyone is handed the world and turn up their noses like Council.

>>14421362
Sorry you can't speak Japanese. Maybe someday.

Laplus and Chloe are the only 2 in X that are worth being simps over

>>14421761
Does this mean their fanbases are a sworn brotherhood now?

>>14421761
and they're the worst.
iroha is the best holox

>>14421761
K O Y O R I

>>14421859
Koyori hates gachikoi. She doesn't want any.

It is still too early to make any assessment about the 6th generation.
But they have been competitive and ambitious from the start.
Sempais already have gold shields or are rich and have lost their appetite for streaming.
Add to that the competitive spirit of the 6th generation, and the frequency of sempai streaming has increased.
That's the only good outcome I can think of.

>>14421623
>l-let them do it on their own pace ok!!!
truly shitter of a gen

>>14421855
>iroha is the best holox
why so based de gozaru

Has anyone actually watched the clip. All she did was a make a joke.

>>14420814
>This new gen... sure are competitive
Yes, it's called effort and ambition, but I'm sure you Councilniggers aren't used to seeing it.

>>14420814
at least shes being honest and really cute in doing this things
>cunny rules

>>14420814
>genmates pushing each other to improve through friendly competition
It's great to see some real passion and effort back in Hololive. EN gen 2 could really learn a few lessons from their new kouhai.

>>14421362
>I just want entertaining content, Council provides that
I must've shifted timelines. Council is boring as fuck and hardly ever streams where I come from. Watching Sana play Pokemon 8 hours at a time is definitely not entertaining. Subaru's imitation contest is entertaining, watching Pekora fail at Jump King is entertaining, watching marathon of normie RPGs is boring ass shit.

>>14421875

>>14421875
False and bullshit. She loves gachikoi

>>14420814
Based Laplus-sama sent her a superchat on her alt account!!!

>>14421761
>Chloe
>simps
I know exactly the kind of person you are anon

>>14420814
Laplus has been super active. She responds to almost everyone on Twitter and has done plenty of streams. Compared to the memeshark who never says anything to her fans on twitter and streams twice a week I've got to say Laplus and Gen 6s work ethic to get more fans is a breath of fresh air. It's fun to support someone who is trying their best

>>14421623
I thought Council had the biggest starting gap. Least because they were coming off of the success of Myth, even Iris seemed to make use of it.

>>14421221
>council really conditioned en shitters to expect lack of ambition huh
Pretty much.

>>14422063
I know. I'm just lying so she won't get more, I want to be the only one.

Kinda funny how one of the few things Mythfags and Holoxfags agree on is shitting on council.

Why do these girls work so hard and have so much ambition?
More than half of these girls had been working as individual VTubers for several years.
They were watching the big money fly by from the bottom of the earth.
It's a simple theory.

>>14422146
>the success of Myth

Myth is a failure.

>>14422195
You sly dog.

>>14422125
>I've got to say Laplus and Gen 6s work ethic to get more fans is a breath of fresh air. It's fun to support someone who is trying their best
This. Feels good not supporting blatant ironicfags

>>14421174
>>14420814
i hope these are just stupid clipper things and they dont actually act this fucking attention whore-y and hungry for success like council

>>14422285
>hungry for success like council
>council
>hungry for success

Can IPN fuck off?

>>14422285
She was playing around after Chloe got 100k usd in a single day. I mean, wouldn't you mention your jealousy on that too?

>>14422285
sorry anon but they are.

I wonder why Cover did not hire a bilingual person who can speak both Japanese and English.
Irys...

>>14421623
Wasn't that Council? EN1 had the most success by far of any gen up to that point and all Council had to do was take the ball and keep running with it. Instead they're struggling to get past Aki Rose in subs

>>14420814
That clip is legitimately more comedic than anything I've ever seen from any EN.

>>14422200
they deserved to be shit on after wasting those debut week

>>14422474
you can enjoy baelz
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>>14421859
I liked her debut stream, she was my 2nd favorite after HoloX debut stream. I watched her a few more streams then I was tired of her acting like a kid. The whole QED part was so cringe I stopped watching.

>>14422313
yes anon, they were hungry for success then learned that myth has a grip on the EN market, then all streamed way less (kronii took this fact very hard)

They're just letting their fans know they're here to make money. Nothing wrong with honesty

>>14422474
They each actually seem to be able to read English at an ok level. Not bilingual but good enough for many EOPs.

>>14420814
This new gen deserves more success, all of them. They have the work ethic ,determination and actually cares/interacts with their fans a lot unlike most of EN.

>>14422500
> EN1 had the most success by far of any gen up

Nice success you got there.

>>14420814
surely people understand that it's a bit and she's playing a character right

>>14420814
There was a 6th generation? When did this happen? What? Are they good?

>>14422708
In the same way that you understand that you are replying to a shitpost?

>>14421855
Unfathomably based de gozaru

>>14422500
No, Gen6 were handed way more subs out of the gate and all of them had debut streams with twice the viewers council did. Gen6's silver spoon is on a completely other level. The only difference is gen6 worked hard afterwards.

>>14422617
>One roadblock was all it took
That's not competitive you retard

>>14422692
I'm not saying they didn't waste it, only that they started out pretty with the same level of excitement Gen 6 has, if not more.

>>14420814
>>14421174
When cute girls compete kaigainiki win !

>>14422617
They weren't hungry at all. They barely did anything with what they were handed. Barely streamed, no projects, no hard work. Council are anti-grifters, half of them hate SCs.

>>14422125
I agree. I feel this especially for Laplus who was an actual, literal poorfag who used her laptop as a heater and had a potato PC. Despite this, she made do with what she had and still managed to provide entertaining streams. She deserves everything she's getting and more. I hope she gets some really, really good food and eats so much she can't even move with all the money she has now.

>>14420814
cant help it, she get weird superchat like "kusa, blank akasupa, etc"

she said she dont want gachikoi but deep inside she want them

>>14421855
shes my 2nd oshi from gen 6 next to cunny

>>14422617
>then learned that myth has a grip on the EN market
Half of Myth have less people watching them than Kronii even with Kronii phoning it in so I don't get how you reach this conclusion. Myth have been on a long slide for the entire year

>>14421761
all of them except lui, fuck hag

>>14422285
>hungry for success like council
LaughsInKronii.gif

>>14422910
Hope she can finally move out the temple and into an actual place with working AC/heater installed. Maybe she will also have her own wifi too.

>>14422659
There is a big language barrier between EN and ID in HoloJP now.
I feel uncomfortable that newcomers like baelz and irys are taking on this role.
In order for Holo to truly become one, it is more important to be able to communicate with each other than "てぇてぇ".

>>14422474
because its a huge gamble, you either get coco tier or haachama tier

>>14423008
Koyori is a hag too...

I HOPE NONE OF THEM COLLAB WITH COUNCIL

>>14422753
>pretendingtoberetarded.png

>>14423055
She'll be earning a solid 20k a month from now on so she'll be able to live in a swanky high rise apartment and eat ootoro every day if she wants.

>>14423149
Maybe Gen 6s enthusiasm and ambition will rub off on Council?

>>14423190
I kinda want her to keep living poor but enjoy the benefit of an over priced pc set up and poor gacha spending habit.

>>14423190
kek, thats possible if you are living in indonesia but japan rent and bills need lot of money, even coco who rack so much money still need a roommate to share the bills

>>14423237
No. Council doesn't care. I doubt they know there is a new gen.

Why did Aqua quit trying?
You seem to have been asleep for the past year.

>>14421362
8h+ of fancy rock paper scissors game is sure entertaining

>>14423297
Japan is so expensive you can't rent out a nice place even with 240k annual income after tax? Laplus could spend 80k a year on rent and still have plenty left over to save and use for tasty food, what would that get you?

>>14423297
Coco did not get a roommate to share bills. Coco and Kanata just liked the idea of Holohouse which is why they initially had Suisei when choosing.

>>14423297
>nt

Tokyo isn't that expensive. You can rent a nice 1bed apartment for less than $1k in a decent location. Only larger apartments in central areas are expensive.

I guess it's because Tokyo is so damn huge and has good transportation that makes rent cheaper than most comparible western cities.

A soundproof room or a room with soundproofing in Tokyo is more expensive than a standard room.
In general, unless you live in central Tokyo, you can live on an annual income of about 50,000 $.

>>14421362
Sana "going to play nothing but pokemon for a month fuck you teehee" Tsukomo and the rest of Council are not entertainment.
Feels good I stuck with Myth.

>>14422576
Now i kinda feel bad for the rat..she's like totally forgotten by now...sad she has so much potential with her design

>>14423326
Aqua has PTSD thanks to her JP idolfag fanbase and cant do the fun streams like she used to do last year

>>14423799
She was doomed to fail if you was one of the 30 people that remembered her past life

>>14423874
no its because she couldnt handle both apex snipers being snipers and her antis: dont know from where, bothered her. remember the break she did? hasn't been the same since, she blocks comment sections sometimes like in the amongus collab

>>14420814
this is just acting kusogaki cliches from anime

>>14423939
i know her past life, anon...i always wish she be a low tier en pekora with the new design...but she's keep wanting to go the cutesy wholesome act

>>14423326
Former Aquacrew here. There are multiple reasons, but it started around April-June 2021. She did a marathon of Apex to grind the ranking and failed to do so before the season reset.
This marathon made her sick so she had a few weeks break.
After that episode, she basically stopped streaming as much before and wanted to focus on her "idol dream". Even when streaming, she wasn't the same hardcore gamer (played Resident Evil Village in easy, Marine teased her about it)
Basically, she went the Suisei route. But the difference is a big part of her fanbase like her because of her gaming stream, so they went away (myself included).

Then there's the lack of motivation. She has a lot of antis from both the Chinese community and the JP Apex community. In her comeback stream of June, she said something on stream like
>I always get depressed when I see a negative comment on my video or twitter. If I see a hundred positive comments and one negative, my mind focus on the negative one. So please send me a lot of love and message, so many that I can't ever see the negative one.
Well, it didn't work since she turned off her comments a few weeks later. Fubuki is in the same situation as her but she's mentally tougher.

She's a lost cause now. She need to first realize that the internet isn't always a happy-go place. Second, she needs to understand that shes an "internet idol". If she stop streaming, she'll lose her fans. Her most recent original song only has 350k views after 9 days.

>>14424090
She was incredibly cutesy and excitable in her old life, if anything she acts more mischievous in her as Baelz. It's hard to be anything like Pekora unless you naturally have that type of personality.

>>14424229
apex was just the last gasp
she actually started to recline after the holocaust happened and she moved to tokyo

>>14422285
This is probably the weirdest thing I've seen someone write and be totally serious about.

>>14423939
Shame. Baelz design is good, I remember everyone thinking she'd be the Gura of the group but she kind of stagnated for various reasons. She has incredible upside with her Japanese fluency and character design but she just didn't leverage it properly and played a fuckton of garbage games. She needed to do more Karaoke and one off gimmick streams.

JP went a whole year without a new generation and the 2views auditioning grew hungry. Very hungry.

>>14424229
Honestly I feel like Aqua is in the position where she genuinely wants to graduation, but won't since A. She doesn't want to let her fellow members down and never get to talk to them on stream anymore and B. Her character is the main thing that currently gives her life meaning and is way too attached to give it up.

>>14424494
Baelz's weakness is that she's the kind of streamer who just wants herself and everyone else to have a good time. She's a doormat and a wallflower, it's a tragedy really.

>>14424313

this is the reason why pekora can't be replaced as the top vtuber for a long time IMO

I love fps myself...
However, I think it's a death sentence for Vtubers to stream and play shitApex or fuckValorant.
at the end they start voicechat with men.
YMD has let me down.

>>14424515
I'm starting to think Yagoos strategy of hiring broken girls isn't because he's a saviorfag but because they've been at rock bottom and won't waste the opportunity to climb out of their situation. All of Gen 6 seem to know this is a once in a lifetime opportunity and are absolutely killing it. Lui was a former black company OL, Laplus is a real life poorfag, Chloe is a former 2 view who wants BIG NUMBERS, and Iroha is a massive Hololive fan and potentially one of the 13 knights.

>>14424702
>one of the 13 knights
you will not make that claim lightly

>>14424494
>I remember everyone thinking she'd be the Gura of the group but she kind of stagnated for various reasons.
People who said this were just memeing. Even if Baelz's was on Gura's level of professionalism, Gura is still hard carried by her design, her past life, and youtube's algorithm. Realistically I thought they would be around HoloID's level but surprisingly they haven't hit that after several months.
>>14424672
Honestly I see her issue she just wants to be herself instead of filling in the role she's supposed to fill in less than 6 months. Not saying she should be forced to roleplay, but giving the audience more than "i'm bilingual" isn't enough and the whole chaotic/pranking aspect was going well for her.

>>14424878
Iroha told Sora she watched her old NND streams, Soras first Youtube stream was September 2017.

>>14420814
Demanding attention is a staple of brat characters, glad she's committing to it instead of being all humble and shit.

After all, the richer they get, the less they try new things
And they start to neglect regular streaming.
Ironically, as blind fans continue to give them money as support, their motivation diminishes.

>>14424890
>Even if Baelz's was on Gura's level of professionalism
Is this a joke? Guras professionalism is saying "sorry guys need to move stream again" then getting blackout drunk because she's a depressed wreck who lives in a filthy mold filled hovel

>>14424702
Iroha is a countryside girl thats why she has different approach in a lot of things

>>14420814
Wow these subs are really shit, did he even try?

>>14422910
Did she say this on stream or is it previous life stuff?

>>14425261
>Fit as fuck
>Humble and down to earth
>Good manners
Checks out. Country folk are just better.

isn't it only la+ doing this because she has this superior loli demon lord personality

>>14421958
>/vt/
>watching anything

>>14424676
>Doesn't rely on GFE unlike the rest of Gen 3(aside from Flare)
>Actually starts and finish games, finished at least 10 full games this year alone
>Follows through on her idol projects, was going to pay out of pocket for her own Sololive to happen
>Streams as much as Miko and Watame and still carries optimism despite most of her branch mates are going through a depression arc right now
>Naturally speaks to EOPs instead of forcing it by saying buzzwords every 30 minutes to "summon the overseas anikis"
>Introvert uniting the other 2 branches with her natural leadership skills
She's really a lightning in the bottle. Best part about it she doesn't show any sign of graduating soon.

>>14425117
She still did NND streams after starting on Youtube. I don't know if she still does but she was the only one that did NND streams last year because of contract thing.

>>14423144
Garbage or garbage?

>>14425238
I mean "professionalism" as in when she does stream she usually can carry a stream, even if it's a game she doesn't particularly like. She also has by far social skills out of Myth when it comes to collabs.
>Buh she's lazy
She's been like this since her debut, it's nothing new. Youtubers in general are lazy.

>>14422927
She has 600 million boyfriends already

>>14423260
The Ina route

>>14421221
it's pretty sad

>>14425766
It matches her character exactly and is charming in light of that, but don't bother telling these fuckers that.

That's it, reboot EN.
Myth and Council wants to quit or get sacked, give them the Coco treatment and start over by hiring hungry 2views/wagey.
Kiara, Irys and Baelz can stay but needs to debut again.

Admit La+ is a cum guzzling attention whore ADMIT IT ADMIT IT YOU FUCKING KEKS.

>But muh muh MOGGED

>>14434703
Does aggressive shilling work in /here/?

These lose their humor clipped out of context, in stream it's all part of Laplus's bratty attitude and is just funny.

>>14421204
She can't stop winning and I love how it makes the faggots on this board seethe

>>14434503
You should reboot your life first

>>14422617
Kronii was regularly pulling the second most liveviews after Gura at her peak and was on track to surpass the lower bound of myth and hope by the end of the year.

I guess by contrast, IRyS streams a lot and is slowly inclining. If her model gets fixed like Flare she might incline rapidly and then the threads will be ruined.

>>14425726
yeah la+ is my oshi but i think iroha have the best and pleasing personality among gen 6

>>14423144
>>14422474
>Coco spoke only elementary school japanese
>put in JP
>IRyS is fluent
>put in EN

>>14421204
But the cute little Laplus is doing good too. In fact the whole gen is doing fucking fantastic.
Even Iroha getting 20,000 viewers for just Ring Fit Adventure.

>>14435069
IRyS is a VSinger which gives her the freedom to be anywhere. Her being the "EN Vsinger" is just a label. IRyS can do whatever the fuck she wants, plus EN is so dogshit she has zero competition.

>>14435193
>Debut buff
>Already not looking good

>>14435002

But then she completely fucked her stats by streaming boring-ass games and becoming lower and lower energy.

>>14435505
Seems like she's the first casuality of the new gen. F.

>>14426062
pekkers is just the GOAT, simple as

>>14435564
It was mostly because she kept taking breaks.

>>14424702
Not a secret.

>>14421380
nobody cares about poor people

>>14435708
Reminds me there was a poll of JP gen favorites and my favorites were all last or second last.

>>14420814
Its a refreshing change to see a gen actually goinh hard and making the most of the influence that Hololive has instead of just letting it happen, not that everyone should be like this, but its ok to have some, for variety

>>14435871
Its a good approach, instead of focusing on raw talent, experience and charisma, he looks for drive and ambition instead.

>>14436670
How did he fuck up so badly with Council?

>>14422195
Well it wasn't working because my opinion of her skyrocketed until I found out it wasn't real

>>14436670

the problem is that those traits are so easily faked in an interview but not followed up on. that's why experience is the most important thing they look for.

>>14420814
Competition is good. It's corny for you to be in a competitive business and be like "i want her to get more subs and money than me." Like for what purpose? It makes your creative drive non-existent and leads to stagnation.

>>14421380
Yup so improving their guilt trip tactics

>>14421362
>council
>entertainment
pokemon and minecraft are not entertaining you child.

>>14436936
Pretty sure he didn't get to interview anyone from EN or ID2, we only heard that he interviewed ID1 from the foreign branches

>>14435924
nice you're a genetic hippie

>>14435708
>irrelevant
no gachi chuuba

>>14425261
she looks like a girl who will not refuse any kind of request

>>14441906
Those are the best doujins

>>14426062
How is she be so perfect? Never ceases to amaze me.

>>14439557
Ollie said she was interviewed by him tho. Or do you mean something like interviewed on the spot? (which might not be the case).

>>14435708
>>14435505
Streaming in pekora's slot is like standing in front of a train

>>14423297
>still need a roommate to share the bills
Is this radioactive bait or anon is just retarded?

>>14421859
I wish I could like her but I can't watch her without thinking of ny*nners

>>14420814
I'll take numberfag chuubas anytime over boring unpassionate chuubas. The latter ones are hard workers and streams a ton.

>>14446747
>The latter
You mean the former?

>>14426062
This rabbit is too strong

>>14435505
TRPGs are a debuff though.

>>14426062
i'll never forget that time she read out a $100 SC that said "english stream soon?" and she just replied with "aahhhhm... no!! shankyou, arigato!!"

>>14424229
>If she stop streaming, she'll lose her fans. Her most recent original song only has 350k views after 9 days.
Something is wrong with you if you think that's supposed to be bad.
If that was her first and only original song then maybe. But only Suisei can keep getting huge numbers with all the songs she releases.

>>14420814
least organic gen

>>14452368
Not when council exists

>>14451415
Yeah I'm retarded, ahahahah

>>14452368
what makes a gen organic?

>>14452696
Full gens of vegetarians

>>14451973
honestly watame's numbers are concerning though, i wouldn't be surprised to find out if she was shadowbanned to a degree, her streams/songs never appear on my feed despite actively searching for her songs myself when they release

>>14420814
I love how hard they're openly numberfagging. That is their entire job after all, yet most holos pretend it's not which just comes across as fake and disingenuous.

>>14421168
a business founded on unity. holo became bigger than nijisanji because they have more boxpush and less dramawhoring.
la+ and orca however are subconsciously waiting to tear apart other holomen. thats not healthy

>>14451925
what a bitch...

>>14454089
Would you really like an EN that numberfags?

>>14454680
Within reason. If they were doing what JP does, which is pick a timeslot and stream in it consistently most days of the week + choosing games based on trends then that'd be an improvement. The problem is the EN branch numberfags by trying to get collabs with normie youtubers which obviously brings in a fuck ton of cancer

>muh ambition
>muh determination
>muh work ethic
GenX souless algorithm cashing tactics are so shit even the shills are having a hard time finding real reasons to like them.

>>14443065
He went to indonesia to interview ID1 in person, he couldn't with anyone else since corona

Are you falseflagger really pretending that ebegging is exciting and ambitious content now? I feel sorry for people who actually like Chloe and La+.