/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14349353
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14356788
is the birthday boy

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>89,278: Calli (Hololive)
>44,039: Fubuki (Hololive)
>29,125: Iroha (Hololive)
>27,380: Chloe (Hololive)
>25,754: Koyori (Hololive)
>24,706: Marine (Hololive)
>24,571: Laplus (Hololive)
>23,145: Miko (Hololive)
>20,538: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,471: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,690: Toya (Nijisanji)
>15,779: Shion (Hololive)
>15,683: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>15,638: Mito (Nijisanji)
>15,388: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>15,232: Pekora (Hololive)
>13,474: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,451: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,340: Flare (Hololive)
>11,824: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,769: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,264: Aqua (Hololive)
>11,113: Kanae (Nijisanji)

Sasuga black company. They made their livers praise the CEO on social media. I KNEEL

>Stockholders: so you're telling me you lost a third of your peak viewership from your last costume reveal...
>Mori: Yes sir, and that's a good thing!
Do people really...?

>>14356918
Hololive: 17
Nijisanji: 4
Merise: 1
NoriPro: 1

>GIVE ME A R
>GIVE ME A I
>GIVE ME A G
>GIVE ME A E
>GIVE ME A G
>GIVE ME A R
WHAT DOES IT SPELL!?

But really, what would be the dominating force
>the recline from people butthurt about the last rig
>the incline from people **wanting** to see a trainwreck

>>14356918
Lize saving Niji from hololive top 10 again, based.

>>14356918
almost another top 10 full wipe, are you even trying nijikeks?

>>14356918
HOLOLIVE JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING

>>14356930
Anyone defending a 45k decline is flat-out mentally ill.

Flare getting a base outfit redesign on 12/12, any predictions? (I guess she really did hate it that much)

>>14356788
Sun and Steel edition

>>14356921

>>14356918
saved from a top 10 wipe again

>>14356918
NIJISANJI GONE TO SHITTERS

>>14357180
>I guess she really did hate it that much
you have no idea how much, also 20k since it isn't a new outfit

>>14356918
THIS MAKES NIJIKEKS COPE AND SEETHE

>>14356930
Today's outfit:
663k Views so far
>$17,243.23
Older Outfit reveal
1.3 million views
>$19,196.56

>>14357180
>predictions?
depends, if she's getting bleached good numbers, otherwise it's shit

>>14356918
How long until it's all just Hololive?

Take your meds, /#/

>>14357399
Monopoly bad. Hololive must give one of their talents to other corpos.

>>14357465
That's a really good VODs actually, that's more than what Shion has on her new outfit stream and that was 5 days ago.

>>14357585
They should give me Rushia and Pekora

>>14357585
kek

>>14357180
I'm gonna throw 40k in, if she doesn't have massive overlap.
Since a lot of people still only see Flare in that outfit and miss it.

>>14357585
Any top Holo would do well in another company or as an indie, but they would all lose a ton of value too. A huge part of their value stems from their relationships. Poaching will never be the answer

>>14357399
That's less a function of how well hololive does and has more to do with how shittily nijisanji is doing,

>>14357737
Kson is doing better than ever, if anything Cover was dragging her down.

>>14357465

>>14356788
It was Yagoo all along

>>14357585
TRADE bla bla bla
lets spice it up
>3 month exchange program
4 from Hololive/Stars to Niji
3 from Nijisanji to Hololive/Stars

Toko locked for Hololive
Astel and Matsuri locked for Nijisanji

At least 1 high profile Holo
At least 1 3view Niji

Who else is going where?

>>14357833
ksonfags are just saving their pride from the loss of viewers

Hey, holokeks, I am here to remind you about terrible recline in Mori's CCV between first and second outfit debuts.
That's all, thanks for your attention.

>>14357926

>>14357870
what about you getting out of this thread with your delusions tradechama

I actually like trade schizo, I think he's funny.

>>14356930
But still the winner of the day

>>14357904
Holocucks are delusional as usual, Kson is making more money than ever now that she doesn't have to give 30% to Cover, plus she doesn't have to deal with shitty managers blocking everything she wants to do anymore.

>>14356918
Holo 9 - 1 Niji
Lize take place, replacing Kuzuha as the Niji Saver for today's top 10

>>14357833
nah, she's doing very well all things considered but I wouldn't say she's doing better than ever, especially compared to her peak in the middle of 2020.

Ugh when is the tournament? Does Niji have a chance to take gold? This thread is devolving due to lack of competition

>>14357615
Give it a week, and we'll see how much of Mori's fanbase watches the vid. Too early for west-coasters to catch live at 6-7 in the morning.

>>14357996
p2w bragging rights

>>14357495
>AAAALLL ME: the region
Just what the hell is going on over there? Any SEAbros care to explain?

>>14358044
Kiara let's goooo

Don't watch Lize, why is she inclining so hard?

>>14357996
Like collabing with Nux

>>14358157
Probably lead in the water or something.

>>14358157
it's too hot...
people lose their mind

Oh it went up a little bit finally, just about sneaks into the top 20 highest earning streams ever. Current top 25 looks like this...
>1. Kiryu Coco graduation - $311,240 (21/07/01)
>2. Fuwa Minato 3D reveal - $147,697 (21/06/04)
>3. Ibrahim 3D reveal - $126,115 (21/07/02)
>4. Shirayuki Tomoe 3D reveal - $121,409 (21/06/25)
>5. Suzuhara Lulu graduation - $96,937 (21/06/30)
>6. Kagami Hayato 3D reveal - $95,344 (20/08/10)
>7. Kanae birthday - $82,369 (21/07/07)
>8. Kiryu Coco last zatsudan - $76,670 (21/06/30)
>9. Saegusa Akina 3D reveal - $72,864 (20/12/25)
>10. Kuzuha birthday - $65,282 (20/11/10)
>11. Houshou Marine 1 million subs - $64,370 (21/01/18)
>12. Uruha Rushia 1 million subs - $63,188 (21/03/02)
>13. Kusunoki Sio 3D reveal - $61,859 (20/06/20)
>14. Lauren Iroas monetization - $59,765 (21/08/06)
>15. Mori Calliope birthday - $57,539 (21/04/04)
>16. Nun Bora graduation - $56,540 (21/11/30)
>17. Kiryu Coco first SC reading after graduation announcement - $56,244 (21/06/11)
>18. Kagami Hayato birthday - $55,399 (21/12/01)
>19. Leos Vincent monetization - $54,968 (21/08/13)
>20. Kazama Iroha monetization - $54,667 (21/12/09)
>21. Furen E Lustario 3D reveal - $54,430 (21/08/28)
>22. Laplus Darknesss monetization - $52,236 (21/12/08)
>23. Kiryu Coco monetization - $52,179 (20/02/11)
>24. Momosuzu Nene 3D reveal - $51,991 (21/04/18)
>25. Gawr Gura birthday - $51,935 (21/06/21)

>>14357996
cope

>>14358229
Lead leads (heh) to kidney problems and retardation, specially when you are kid

>>14358177
>inclining
more like she's playing buff games, also she's finishing Pokemon so some tourists came to watch her

>>14358281
no, this is the numbers thread, you don't get to do that, fuck off.

>>14358033
She is doing better than holos even before Cover's cut.

>>14358177
>Don't watch Lize, why is she inclining so hard
Consistency. Her audience signaled they want something and she give it to them, consistently and regularly

>>14358281
Keep seething zhang >>14358346

>>14358320
>leeching active holo roommates
i thought she was supposed to be independent?

>>14358405
Your cope is funny zhang.

>>14358346
that was the only month she beat Rushia...

>>14358320
Why is that Matrix thing only 6 views?

>>14358451
It's a membership stream.

>>14358447
No, she beats Rushia every month now that she doesn't have the -35% Cover debuff.

>>14358451
Membership only frames can get a tad fucky if you move them to members only from non-members only status.

>>14358486
ogey

>>14358377
pretty words for just pokemon

>>14358346
>Lamy beating Rushia
How?

>>14358550
anon you can see the birthday stream in the corner.

>>14358550
cute birthday

>>14358550
Anon, your fucking EVENT reps. In the month of November, Lamy had her b-day, while Rushia was debuffed from having to practice for the live + depressed after losing her cat so she didn't stream as much.

>>14358346
>>14358382
What happened? have you gone poor? keep paying retards, you don't wanna lose your p2w bragging right this month

>>14358596
Keep seething bugman, Kson will keep soaring to new highs.

>>14358596
This has got to be retardation

>>14358641
sad cope>>14358281

>>14358542
If that’s what her audience wants and it brings her numbers, more power to her

>>14358678
reclining though

>>14358674
FUCKING RIGGER NIGGER

>>14358753
thank you for showing the 200 bucks

>>14358674
>>14358766
Tiananmen Square.

>>14358713
Lize median in July was around 8k.

CEO Numbers

>#1 trend in Japan

https://twitter.com/hashtag/YAGOO%E7%94%9F%E8%AA%95%E7%A5%AD2021

>>14358596
I wish I could make money for doing nothing.

>>14356918
>15,232: Pekora (Hololive)
Oh no no no looks like the dumb rabbit did lose people to the new generation. Uh oh...

>Hololive
>No one live

>>14358919
Damn that's alot of art

>>14358864
when she was spamming genchink...

Smol Calli concert
>PREDICTIONS?

>>14359185
20k

>>14359185
8-12k probably, it's a really shit season for burgers

>>14359185
25k

>>14359185
35k for shilling on her costume debut and curious.

>>14359185
19k

>>14358177
She's basically a Hololive-style streamer trapped in Nijisanji.

>>14359308
Explain

>>14358346
I kinda doubt she is doing better than Holos or Coco in overall income seeing that
(1) her SC (before cut) didn’t really increase significantly, so basically she gets 2x from SC nowadays compared to her time as Coco, yet
(2) her income from SC went from “not a significant part” of her income (as Coco said) to 70-80% of her income (as Kson said)
Even if her income from SC was doubled, for it to take 70-80% of her income now means it’s likely that her total income dropped, probably due to the lack of large scale merch supply

>>14359308
don't broken what is fix

keep her there

>>14359185
20k, maybe 25k if no one else is streaming.

>>14359384
>no one else is streaming
guaranteed, they are all lazy bitch anyway and Ina is at different slot

>>14358177
Lulu fans went to her. Also she seldom collabs with men.

>>14359356
I think her merch as Kson only had a 1 week run period which I find odd.

>>14359384

>>14359185
If other EN shows up in that VR studio, 30k is doable

>>14359495
IRyS is playing Chrono Cross for some reason, only of the most convoluted and inaccessible JRPGs I've ever had the misfortune of coming across, after hearing it was the spiritual successor to Chrono Trigger. I imagine it might get 6-7k the first time but will degrade into Kiara numbers if she continues.

>>14359580
What? I'm pretty sure she said it was Eternal Eden

>>14357495
>all SEA countries
Seriously, what us wrong with SEA?

>>14359185
Soul

>>14359580
>Chrono Cross
Wait what? She said at the end of her Big Brain Academy that it will be a shill stream for Another Eden (the same game Pekora shilled earlier). Did I miss something or where did CC come from?

>>14359732
>>14359641
It's a crossover.

>>14359732
"RPGRyS playing the Chrono Cross Crossover Story!"

Ok so it's like some kind of tie-in?

>>14359732
Another Eden getting a Chrono Cross collab Event. CC remaster/remake in the works

>>14359356
>70-80% of her income (as Kson said)
that was referring only to YT income, since she doesn't run ads, so it's just SC and Member, with a little Premium revenue.
She also had merch and the mildom deal, so her overall earnings are way more
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3mgB08_pHk
She straight up said on Oct 22nd her income "last month" was 15 million Yen, around 135k$.
we don't know if she was still seeing some residuals from her old job, but still, that was the month before her merch went up and probably before the pay from her sponsorship came through so, a lot of money and she's making way more now.

I wasn't prepared for the level of Moris recline. 40k less viewers from her last outfit reveal and didn't even crack 100k, what a fucking disaster. EN is doomed, not even rhe new outfits are generating hype for them

>>14359824
Thanks for reminding me I have reinstall this. Hope my accounts still okay

>>14359648
We are living next to chinks japs and gooks
Everyone becomes a schizo like that

>>14359892
If you add up every stream that NijiEN has ever done do you even get 90k viewers? Probably not.

>doomposting
>>>/hlgg/
>>>/森カリオペ/
>>>/brap/
>>>/out/

>>14359892
Welcome back EN skitzo. Did you just get out of work ?
That puts you in... London? Lisbon?
Or is it lunch time and you're in the damn mid-west?

>>14359962
Does it matter? They're minnows. Mori has 1.8 million subs and can barely crack 10k on a good day. EOPs aren't watching vtubers anymore

>>14360013
It’s almost lunch time in the west coast.

>>14360013
I just got off work and I live in the US, I just start at 4 am.

>>14359892
I thought 100k was where it would land but 89k is disgraceful. I guess the only way for Cover to avert death was 3D debuts. By the time Myth does get them 2-3 will have graduated and the remainders will be sub 3k livers.

>>14360133
>livers
When your agenda is so easy to spot you can easily be disregarded. Go back to your ghetto Nijikek.

>>14359892
When was the last time Reddit Duck got 89k?

>>14360185
>>14360133
>>14359892
holy samefag

He's really trying to force this reddit duck thing huh.

>>14360185

>>14356918
>Hololive 17
>Nijisanji 6
Things are normalizing and we're going back to the status quo instead of the moggings we've been getting recently. 17 seems a little low but we know HoloEN no longer pulls it's weight.

>>14360133
Ok, you're trying a bit TOO hard with this one, you have to tone down your exaggerations to a slightly flawed but believable level for it to be good bait.

>>14360185
pff

>anons can’t resist replying to the schizo

>>14360185
Ok, i wasn't here for last weekend.
When did some of you start calling her Reddit Duck?
That wasn't a thing in the numbers thread a week or more ago.
The duck meme was 6 months ago too, or do you miss the Reddit Dragon that much?

>>14359308
You talk as if Nijisanji only has one style of vtuber, which isn't the case.

>>14360461
>some of you
One (1) schizo

>>14360386
Not giving them 3D was the issue though.
a) it loses out on rebirthing enthusiasm
b) divorces them from the box push
c) it completely demoralized Myth

>>14360502
figures

Was the 12 “claimed” by any special event or this will be the highlight of the day?

Also
>PREDICTIONS?
Not only on the numbers but on what will be the main change in her design
>other than the skin tone

>>14360185
>>14360502
Oh, haha the "Subaru and Duck Dance - Hey Ya (Full)" has 5.7 Million views now
It is by far the most popular video with her (if you don't count coco's graduation stream)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccoZhuNlls

>>14360461
It only started a couple days ago. Some anon suggested the possibility that Subaru has surpassed Miko on the Hololive teir list and this guy freaked out and has been on his crusade against "Reddit Duck" ever since. As for the Reddit thing I think its just because Subaru is really popular on Reddit.

>>14360600
Hololive will grow larger

>>14360578
She'll just look like Pomu.

>>14360600
>Meme magic does it again
Yagoo can't keep getting away with it

>>14360606
Is she really? How would anyone even know that unless they were on the hololive subreddit?

>>14360578
no more oppai window

>>14360667
>not him
No, that was here. People got into a debate over who are the heavenly kings and it developed into a greater conversation of Holo rankings, someone then suggested the possibility of Subaru being higher rated than Miko and the result is what you see today.

>>14360578
new reptile face?
I bet it's gonna be 50k

* Rolling month gold medals *

>NOVEMBER
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tourney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part

>HOLOX ANNOUNCEMENT AND DEBUT STARTS HERE
26) La+ (Hololive) - 167.6k - Debut
27) Lui (Hololive) - 149.8k - Debut
28) Koyori (Hololive) - 180.5k - Debut
29) Chloe (Hololive) - 176.7k - Debut
30) Iroha (Hololive) - 175.8k - Debut

>DECEMBER
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Mori (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal

>>14360667
Subaru is actually not that popular on the hololive sub, funilly enough. I think he's just using reddit as a synonym for normie because of the dancing duck meme

>>14360800
Who's the most popular? The last time I even looked at it was probably Marine's meme contest or maybe Coco graduation? Marine always seemed really popular there due to interacting with them.

>>14360522
I'll give you part of those skitzo, because those points can be applied to the costumes being delayed as well. Kiara and Calli spoke out about being down about all these delays.

I do want to put this to rest though and revive the numbers from
>>14347747

May
>EN 131,303
>JP 65,295

December
>EN 86,923
>JP 122,458

Just 13k difference

Cali was streaming close to JP prime time both times but in her "usual hours" so that won't affect the numbers much the difference being the box push itself.
First numbers were during Fashion week, the big push was for the costume reveals themselves, but this time the wave is in HoloX's favor, with Fubuki riding the Pokemon hype still, mostly by herself at the top.
There were some other costume reveals recently but they weren't hyped as much and the EN ones were delayed way too many times to get the same excitement out of fans that Fashion week ones did.

>>14360770
jesas Holox is literally an explosion

>>14360878
Gura, followed by Mori/Kronii/Ina/Irys depending on the time of day and what events recently happened.
For JPs it's abit of a tossup between Marine/Nene/Rushia/Miko. Once again it's mostly dependent on the time of day and who had a memorable stream recently, but those four tend to be the most talked about

>>14360770
Jeesas,
so if the Splatoon tournament underperformed, or more specifically, there were more heavy draws streaming constantly, pulling from the main channel numbers,
this would have been the 28th week in a row of Holo gold.

>>14358263
So, why ae the Niji SC events so high compared to how they SC normally?

Should we start comparing holoEN to NijiJP to make the thread more interesting? Lize stomps every ENshart besides Gura in CCV. Not even the outfit reveal salvaged Mori's average.

NijiEN is streaming and yet the village idiot has yet to barge into the thread praising their success. I wonder why?

>>14360968
Damn, even reddit doesn't like Ame anymore. Is this place the last bastion of her popularity?

>>14361094
>terraria
Holos please play terraria. I don't want to watch niji. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

>>14361013
That's just the culture they have developed, people save for big events and go all-out. Holo has that to some extent but people tend to donate more on daily streams and not spike quite so high for events.

>>14361094

>>14361094
S-Slow and steady

>>14361125
Pomu is fun and Elira is tolerable at worst, I think you would enjoy it.

>>14361081
Are we actually calling 11k AVERAGE bad now?
Considering not even a month ago 10k Peak was a big deal.
HoloX accelerated numberrot to unprecedented levels.

>>14361125
coco...

>>14361200
anon, he's the village idiot who decided to use Lize today because his precious nijiEN are sucking dirt today. Get on with the program

>>14361200
Many anons are suffering for numberrot

>baiting with Playboard live averages
>replying to Playboard live baiting

This is just sad.

>>14360606
It's Miko schizo falseflagging against Subaru to make people hate Miko. Same post style. He's angry because Miko dumped his Niji minnows.

>>14360578
Blue eyes white Flare with the boob window closed. It will be a joke outfit she will never take off.

>>14361270
A-at least they're all over the line, I guess?

>>14360897
This makes me more curious about the delay when it suppose to ride on the tide of anniversary, hope the rest of the reveal is worth it. And add to that, Calli's outfit reveal was also during the golden week of Japan, which other 4 EN didn't have the opportunity to cash on that. It will be interesting if Ame can get a higher ccv than Calli this time, or even Ina.

>>14361270
Get these midget numbers out of my face

>>14361200
Mori was at 7k average before the outfit reveal and Kronii is still the strongest Council member in CCV. The point is that they all get mogged by a Niji female.

>>14361270
Hololive has 0 viewers right now, Holo btfo

>>14361013
Just a community culture thing really. Hololive encouraged a culture of daily SC's which might've started with Coco(?). This was before they hit the big time in terms of advertisers so I assume SC's were a lot more important to them than they are now. Nijisanji, having had a lot more funding and finding faster sucess thanks to Mito was less dependent on SCs so they never established a culture of daily donations. As a result however, their audience tend to donate it in massive sums all at once during events hence why Kagami and Fuwa having insane SC's for their 3d debuts but are nowhere near the top 10 overall which is dominated by Hololive. Its the reason why NijiEN hustles for SC so much since they don't have the merch to fall back on while most of Myth and Council not only have more memberships but just have other cashflows in general.

>>14361270
Fairy vtubers are becoming the meta now. I would not be surprised if Flare elects to become a fairy and gives up on elfdom.

>>14361270
They're getting HoloEN numbers so it's not too bad

>>14360578
Gura's outfit reveal

>>14357036
>rigeger

guys, is apex really dying?

>>14359732

https://youtu.be/qqYEivU9_Bg

Its pure nostalgia, the preview its kino

>Hololive
>nobody's live

s-sugoi...

>>14361360
Hope so.

>>14361270
hey, they're above the gwelu line

>>14361360
You can check how a game is performing on twitch

>>14361387
anon if they are below the gwelu line they'd be niji IN tier, that isn't worth boasting about.

>>14361360
i sure fucking hope so

>>14361360
hopefully, jesus christ

>>14361316
If you have to bring the absolute top NijiFemale (Lize supplanted Iinchou awhile ago) in order to make the comparison tip in Niji's favor (Gura still mogs her though), that says a lot more of how weak Nijisanji is as a whole.

>>14361316
>Niji females used to run the world
>now "Niji female" is an insult
I think Niji females show great character and have declined with dignity.

>>14361270
>there are more people waiting for Ina's stream than the highest NijiEN stream right now
Just sad.

>>14361452
He only ever does that, literally every time he pops into this thread he brings in an obviously cherrypicked stat comparing the absolute best against the absolute worst and then declares victory.

>>14361360
It's actually worse than I thought. Those Nov numbers dear god.

>>14361455
The same can be said for EN.

>>14361410
oof

>>14361200
>Considering not even a month ago 10k Peak was a big deal.
Horseshit anon. Pekora, Marine and Miko have been getting 20k to most streams for months now

>>14361509
No that can't be real you are jokin-

>>14361509
Ina is very well liked.

>>14361513
jesas

>>14361507
The strongest Niji female vs the strongest Council member and second strongest EN overall. I would say it's a pretty fair comparison.

>>14361525
>>14361513
FPS fans are fickle, this is well-known. Which is why it's dangerous to center your streaming identify around a particular FPS

>>14361525
I don't like either but Valorant is even more boring. I think I'd rather Overwatch come back or everyone play MOBAs than a Valorant meta.

>>14361568
Of course you would, it shows your side winning. You would literally consider pig's shit a fair comparison if it shows your side winning.

>>14361589
>Overwatch
https://youtu.be/8wK75O5C2fE
Your wish is granted

As someone who is interested in how Nijisanji and Hololive's core strategy diverged so much, I'm curious as to how much Mito contributed to Nijisanji's overall culture? I don't really watch Nijis so I can't really comment on Mito but I'd like to know if she at least tried to do the whole Box-pushing thing the same way that FBK did once she became the top Holo. Skimming through stuff, Mito seems to be very close with JKgumi and He-Ayame so I don't think that she's a soloist. Was it a management thing?

>>14360476
Yeah it actually has two kinds of streamers, Kuzuha and everyone else.

Since this is a slow period, let's avoid the skitzo baiters by doing the 2nd most popular thing in this period.
baseless speculations

The Suisei Kanata Angelfish cover had 1.9 million views before being privated
https://playboard.co/en/video/19f2skdHhcE
The re-uploads are at 950k combined already too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntJN93-xQLA

Does anyone remember when this was privated?
Also, if always available, would this have been another Suisei 10+ million views song by now?
Could it have saved the SuiKan relashionship?

i only bring this up because the song is stuck in my head and it's undeniably the Suisei-Kanata team's best song.

>>14361568
This. We need to just take HoloJP off all the charts. They are making us look dumb and are humiliating the rest of the industry. HoloEN and NijiJP need to band together.

>>14361653
There's just too many Nijis to do it effectively. Too late in the game too. They've been doing it from the start with the EN branch. IDK about ID or KR as I don't watch them.

>>14361081
avg video views from the same source:
> Kronii 247,498
> Mori 247,922
> Lize 173,949
why did you choose to hide that part, anon?

>>14356918
I see Mori but where is the rest of HoloEN?

>>14361525
Anon, Apex was always close to dead on Twitch.
It only passed 40k when JP streamers were playing it.
Kuzuha alone usually had more Apex viewers than the entire category on Twitch.

>>14361653
"box pushing" always have been more of a thing on the overseas branches since their beginning. In JP genmates in general are closer but otherwise groups and units are formed whenever they get closer, or if they collab and become close. There is box pushing on niji jp but it depends on the member if you analyze each case individually, which you can do looking at nijisanji wikia jp that has a list of all the nijisanji that had collabs before.

>>14361360
most of the vtubers i watch play aren't really playing it right now. the ones that do end up having the same numbers as usual, but that's mostly who i watch i guess. i've seen others struggling like hal.

So here is some food for thought. According to the schizos HoloEN is a reclining dead branch that should be folded while HoloJP is a shining bastion of light that is dawning on a new golden age. So with that in mind lets take a look at the recent costume reveals.

Shion from HoloJP had about 93k while Mori from HoloEN had about 90k. So shouldn't the fact that a member from a dying branch got so close to the flawless unflappable HoloJP actually be a bad mark on JP's record? Shion barely beat out a dying midget according to the schizos. How do we save HoloJP? Pretty sad numbers from Shion there.

>>14361721
ID has been doing that since the very beginning. They live all in jakarta, have been doing imprompt collabs invading streams, doing offline collabs, and so on. There's a reason elira mentioned nji id in the beginning and how she wanted nijien to be similar. KR also is fairly close but not as much as ID and EN are.

>>14361751
Nijiniggers and lying name a more iconic duo

Enough about HoloEN and Mori.

Iroha getting the second highest monetization debut stream in history really fell by the wayside. My question is how? Just being cute? Has she been doing the dirty work like talking to people on twitter? I know she makes it be known she talks to her senpais and includes herself in their tweets. No one seems threatened by her unlike Chloe, who is dangerous, and La+, who is flying by the seat of her pants.

>>14361842
/numbers/ and schizos

>>14361751
>why did he choose to hide it
You know why, lol

>>14361721
I've never subscribed to the notion that there are too many Nijis to make box pushing impossible. I'm a semi-casual basketball fan and I can name at least 200 players from past to present day. If box-pushing was implemented from the very beginning, and a minimum of 6 months between waves was observed by Nijisanji, it would've worked even if they ended up having 150 livers in the end.

>>14361819
Doesn't Shion have less than half the subs of Mori? HoloEN is dying in the same was as Kizuna AI. They have a lot of residual subs but fewer and fewer people are actually tuning in to watch them. Mori had 130k for her last costume reveal, a 40k drop is fucking bad no matter how you spin it.

>>14361890
>HoloEN is dying in the same was as Kizuna AI.
Thanks for the laugh for what i assume is a joke.

>>14361890
>Muh subs to view ratio
nijiniggers just don't learn do they?

>>14361918
You're right. Kizuna AI is still getting higher viewership than most of EN these days, unfair to compare her to them.

>>14361890
But I thought subs don't matter? Or do they only start mattering today?

>>14361819
It's one person and he's just baiting.

>>14361890
>subs to view raito

>>14361960
They matter in so far as the subscribers actually bother to watch the content. More subscribers means your content being put in front of a wider audience which USUALLY translates into higher views. The exception is when the Youtuber is losing the interest of their audience and progressively less of their subscriber base bothers to watch their stuff.

>>14361855
I'm not sure, I was convinced Laplus would be the most popular...then Chloe was. Then I figured Chloe would make the most money but maybe not now. Who knows? Only thing I even guessed right was Lui being the runt.

>>14361094
disgusting flops just graduate all of them, they are a waste of money

>>14360578
she is gonna remove her brown skin

>>14362011
to be fair Laplus got the worst of susan's culling, Chloe got most of her subs post culling so it didn't affect her as much

>>14361855
Iroha is a dark horse for sure. Seisoness in Hololive (and vtubing in general) is a rare commodity now a days and it's drawing not just the EN fans but the JOPs as well. Her ringfit streams aren't even lewd but just fun background noise. She rarely gets angry and there's this weird aura of autheticity to her. I honestly think she's Sora's one true successor.

>>14361165
no he wouldnt, his brain rot is already this bad

>>14361995
It's a fair and objective way to measure decline. Is there any reason it's invalid other than it hurts your feelings that EN is performing badly?

>>14361751
Because that doesn't have anything to do with average CCV? Lize streams seem to be short in duration and her video views are in line with Mumei who is the second strongest Council member. Stop using the chumbud cope.

>>14361270
man just end their suffering and kill this fail branch already

>>14361653
At first they had all that SEEDs and Gamers stuff, those groups were pretty divided, after merging there were too many vtubers to do it properly.

>>14361751
>M-Muh vod views
I hope Hololive switches to Twitch one day so this pathetic cope is gone.

>>14361890
the esl always leaks out

>>14362149
>>14362094
>This number doesn't count because I say so
Yeah fuck off

>>14361855
probably the morning streams. those hit an older, working audience mostly. there's some obvious examples who went after those time slots in coco and lamy. otherwise, there's not much else to say other than she's cute, nice, and makes an earnest attempt to talk to foreign fans too(lui and koyori do too). she also had pretty big streams with jump king and fall guys at fairly uncontested time slots, so maybe she's just captured a lot of people.

>>14361513
>>14361559
Apex isn't going anywhere in the short term. I don't know why they list it like that, but November wasn't complete when that was taken. At the end of the November it was at about 57.5m hours so it was only a small drop - which is still 10 mil higher than it was before the July spike.

>>14361270
It's gonna be really interesting once the Male's come in. I'll fucking lol if Pomu and Rosemi try to maintain as much minimal contact with the guys as possible just to keep their gachis since they don't have a lot of merch to fall back on.

>>14362126
They need to reorganize everyone. Take everyone who's basically stopped streaming and put them in "Nijisanji Legacy" or something and take the 30 or so best people and make them core Nijisanji, have them all do stuff together and heavily promote them. 30 is not an intimidating amount of people to learn.

>>14362149
you can also check views on twitch anonchama, also say it all on your first reply>>14362094 who do you think youre fooling?

>>14362149
Figures the EN schizo would be a twitchfag. Go back to watching Zentreya.

This retarded ENfaggotry keeps timelooping every time there is dead hour, who is for setting up a midget league and numberfag the mid tier Nijis?

>V-vod views don't count
Shut the fuck up, you wanna force your own narrative, i'll do the same.
Mori mogs shion so hard it's not even funny.

>>14361842
holofags and unicorns

>>14362327
and both mog your oshi

>>14362149
Anon, if Hololive switches to twitch, it will to HoloEN's advantage since that's the core market for NA streamers. Even worse still, people like Gura would end up even more popular because the insufferable leeches there would not stop dropping raids on her.

>>14362355
But mori is my oshi.

>>14362327
uh ohhh

>>14361890
Then same argument can be made for Noel. She also has 1m subs and she went from 140k to 101k on outfits reveals, the decline of 39k. And she is a member your "prestigious" sankisei. Is she a failure too and if so then 99% of Streamers out there should quit streaming and get a job because they all are failure.

>>14362278
That's a fucking recipe for disaster, anon. Not only would that invite open rebellion from the talent itself but the combined autism from the fans of all those low-tier chuubas would still be enough to cause major damage. Box-pushing is still possible for Niji but it's not going to be an instant process. It might take a minimum 2-3 years before it becomes the norm but they have to start somewhere.

>>14362170
It counts it's just a shit metric because it's specific to a single platform and it doesn't measure viewer retention, just how many toddlers clicked on it and watched it for 30 seconds before clicking out

>>14362055
This. People like to raise Chloe to the skies, and I don't think anyone will argue against her being popular, but a lot of people seem to forget Laplus got culled to hell and back. Chloe was almost completely unaffected by the culling. If Laplus hadn't been culled as much as she was she'd be ahead of Chloe right now, at least in subs.

>>14362387
sure tranny

I have question numberfags, after the youtube and hololive tax, should the talent also donate to avoid a higher tax federal bracket?

>>14362377
I know it's never gonna happen but I really wanna see Gura do a twitch stream and Hololive to actually hype it up.

>>14362418
>and if so then 99% of Streamers out there should quit streaming and get a job because they all are failure
this but unironically

>>14362434
Not him, but box pushing at this point is impossible for them anyway, maybe if they did so earlier but as it stands now, it will never work.

>>14362443
Yeah buddy it's not like vods are how youtubers earn most of their money or anything

>>14362076
>>14362176
If her content making skills are true and she has some stuff under wraps then she might be a monster in a few months. I thought she was a certain 5th, now she looks like a strong 3rd fighting for 2nd, by March she might be #1. I have realized she is probably my second favorite of the new gen after being with at reveal time and maybe my experience is normal as a holofan.

>>14362086
You know, Mumei has basically the same subs to view ratio as Pekora. I guess they're equal?

>>14362434
Do they have 2-3 years in them? I realize vtubers are cheap and easy to make money with, and that won't be a problem, but what's their cultural relevancy, even in Japan, gonna be 2 years from now?

>friday
>23 jst
Predictions on her SC? Will it beat gozaru's record?

>>14362544
Mumei is not a failure, Pekora is, though.

>>14362446
They all lost well over 100k, I think the difference between Chloe and laplus ended up being like 40k?

>>14361653
They used to semi-box push with SEEDs and Gamers, but since collabing between them was a hassle thanks to old management, they discarded it and made everyone regular vtubers.
There is no way to box push Nijisaji anymore. Instead they shill them in groups. 1st wave. ROF-MAO. Debutmates. Etc.

>>14362477
You'd have to consult an accountant depending on the specific case but it mostly has to do with how close to the line they are.

>>14362443
you can sperg all you want, twitch still has pretty much the same vod growth as youtube when looking at vtubers. The only problem with it is that twitch erases vods that are older than a certain limit, 2 or 3 months i think

>>14362094
>this particular number doesn't count because it makes me look bad
This is the numbers thread buddy. All numbers count. Sounds like you are the one trying to cope.

>>14362446
Did this get updated?

>>14362556
5 million yen and 40k viewers. Not enough views to medal.

I know we've been wrong on most of them so far and completely lowballed our estimates but I think we will be on the money, #sisters.

>>14362434
No one outside of hololive fans care about box pushing because nijisanji fans already watch many of those members with the groups they collab inside or outside of nijisanji. If a nijisanji fan wants box pushing theyll watch overseas branches, which many already do anyway for westerns.

>>14362521
I beg to disagee. The only reason why we're saying that it's impossible is because we all know that Anykara isn't willing to invest in a tactic that will take more than 2 years to bear fruit. But if they actually commited to it than I believe that it can be done. It's really no different from a team adopting a new system, especially if said system is a bit more complex than the one that you previously ran. But everything can be learned, it just takes time which unfortunately Anykara isn't willing to invest on.

>>14362660
Is it still the same if we use chuubas other than kiara?

>>14362556
supposedly she shoudlnt have a 1hr time limit if shes starting at 23jst, right?

>>14362532
why would you think she would be 5th? lui's design, voice and interests are very big flags for low tier.

>>14362434
Not him, but I agree with your assertion. That said, their biggest flaw is that they pretty much let talents deal with that in these types of agencies when it is incumbent upon management to be the ones to deal with the creation and management of a box for talent to push. On that end, >>14362278 is at least partially correct.

I also do agree with the idea that Nijisanji itself needs to be reorganized, but not in the top-bottom sense. Rather, they should select a group of their chuubas that take this seriously enough to volunteer to do this on a full time basis and use them to promote and boost the brand, while the ones that wish to perform on a more part-time basis can come into the box and leave as they please to support the main crew or simply be highlighted to boost their numbers.

>>14362721
yea, they get more views, but their base is also higher. % is very close for most except gura, and mori to a lesser extent.

>>14362745
Iroha's design is a bit plain and boring, I had her pegged for 4th which she still might end up in.

>>14362658
sounds like a position to be in for the general group, but I some how doubt they have one in office
and they'd have to get different people for separate regions huh

>>14362745
Blonde hair, blue eyes, and seemed boring from the poster. Lui struck me as someone who'd get a small but dedicated audience while Iroha struck me as roster filler.

>>14362278
I like that idea but people would go schizo over it. Nobody even knew about those VR hostess club people and people still went insane when Niji fired them.

A better idea that would help boost EN and give them a real advantage is if they push 3D out to EN before Hololive does. Cover keeps dragging their feet on EN 3D and its right there for the taking for NijiEN.

>>14362785
speaking of ens, jps get less % growth usually, but some like marine break that rule as well

>>14362770
>they should select a group of their chuubas that take this seriously enough to volunteer to do this on a full time basis and use them to promote and boost the brand
they are actually in a sense with some select groups prepping for upcoming lives

>>14362713
I'm inclined to stand corrected then.

>>14362789
JPs would all be the same so it would be viable to have a retainer there but for EN you're looking at 5 different countries and even state tax laws are different in the US.

>>14362713
It's not a matter of years it's a matter of a bunch of literalwhos in their JP branch not fitting in with the box pushing strat because they treat being a Niji liver like a hobby/side job. No amount of corporate reworking will make the company able to shill everyone equally. There's people like Kanae who buy entire apartment rooms and several PCs for streaming and then there's people like Sayo who show up every few months due to being busy.
>>14362770
That already happens though. Certain Nijis are constantly showing up in merchandise collabs. Most notably Kenmochi and Mito's group. Tech based Nijis like Mayuzumi do technology sponsors. Genshinfags get genshin sponsors. Foodfags like Himawari and Gaku get food sponsors. Mahjongfags get mahjong sponsors. Maybe you're not aware since you don't watch them.

>>14362832
There is no possible way to get them studio 3D before Holo EN, other than maybe by a couple weeks if they really rush it once people are able to travel to Japan. Even if they rent a studio in Canada only like a 1/3rd of them live in the same general region. Home 3D? Maybe. Do Nijis have that normally?

NijiEN didn't try hard enough on the box. They had the chance. There are people who only like LazuLight and will watch all three so the groundwork was there. It should have been built upon, Obsydia is basically Selen and the midgets with Selenfags often only being Selen fans. Wave 3 poisoned the well. I know 5ch schizo nijifans hated that NijiEN was trying for a box pushing formula at first but they shouldn't dictate branch policy.

>>14362661
You cannot use playboard avg views to draw any conclusions. It counts ALL videos in the channel, including Mori's music covers. Lize video views don't seem very different from Ina (195k) or Mumei (179k) when you take into consideration that her streams are typically short.

>>14362896
>That already happens though. Certain Nijis are constantly showing up in merchandise collabs.
That's not what I am talking about here. I'm talking about audience access, which is what hako-oshi is. Sponsorships and merchandise collabs don't do anything for you at an audience level.

>>14362832
If you're advocating for Anykara to let NijiEN jump the line than that'll cause even more problems while resolvig none of the issues. With their current audience, and with how the JPs audience couldn't give a rrats ass about NijiEN, forcing them to get their 3d early, ahead of even some of the JP Livers will only cause bad feelings all around while their 3d itself would be lucky to cross 20k. And yes, I know that sounds like I'm lowballing them but even VShoujo, didn't get 25k(?) for their new 2dlive and 3ds and they're way more popular than anyone from NijiEN

FBK gets 40k fishing in Pokemon
That horrible Marine/Noel/Kanata shower stream got 80k
Mori's horrible music get a ton of views
Baby shark is the most watched video on YouTube
Numbers are meaningless. You lost numberfags.

>>14362980
What the fuck are you even talking about? Niji EN interact way more than their Hololive counterparts.

>>14362786
>>14362820
really? i found her design pretty solid. what really sealed the deal was the de gozaru though. it's too pleasant. i think based on her skills and interests, she'll end up at least 3rd because koyori is a bit more niche and hololive is minecraft territory.

>>14362477
>should the talent also donate to avoid a higher tax federal bracket?
Anon, the government never loses. Donating just shift part of what you would pay in taxes to some charity, it doesn’t increase the money you keep.

The trick the rich people use is to donate to THEIR OWN CHARITY (see Clinton Foundation, Trump Foundation, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) which they’re also part of the administration and which pay for lota of their expenses (travels and stays, vehicles and property).

Simply giving away money does NOTHING to increase your revenue.

>>14362982
kek lize has them too, but it doesnt count because shes shit right?

>>14363069
To be fair, Vshoujos give themselves new shit every few months, it's not as big of a deal.

>>14357465
Honestly disappointing numbers.

A question. Is it possible for a chuuba to be the best at every kind of numbers? As it is right now no one among the top Holos are perfect number-wise, they got one number they will lose another

>>14363069
> jp audience doesn't give rats about nijien
> there's a lot of jp watching nijien and commenting whenever they speak japanese
It's amazing how you fags talk so much about nijisanji without having any idea how their livers and the agency works in general. It's like a third party watching how an animal works without being part of the environment

>>14363080
>Numbers are meaningless
If numbers are meaningless how come I’m fapping to them?
>CHECK AND MATE ATHEISTS

>>14363119
Yes, she doesn't seem to be strong in the singing department. And 3 months ago is past the point where playboard would count the video anyway.

>>14363119
ew disgusting numbers, i hereby revoke lize whorelesta to midget tier

>>14363069
JP audience loves NijiEN to the point where their existence forced 5chfags to kick all overseas discussion to a different general.

>>14363194
Yes Kizuna Ai was once the best at everything.

>>14363207
maybe if you guys would actually explain stuff instead of throwing snide remarks and doing whatever the fuck the village idiot does with his retarded takes this wouldn't be an issue.

If Mori did just 14k $ with costume reveal how mediocre will other Myth members be?

>>14363051
Ex-SEEDS, Ex-Gamers, 1st and 2nd wave, still exist. There's also some form of I guess mini-box pushing where the most popular person in a debut group boosts up their smaller debutmates in streams. Melissa has a smaller fanbase but when she's with Meifu she gets boosted.

>>14363286
Did they ever talk about overseas at all besides Bora?

>>14363194
Best in both CCV, VODS, SUBS, and Watch time is possible. I'd argue that if Pekora could speak fluent english she'd have 2x the subs that she currently has now. But being top of all those plus SC is not doable I think. In order to be the top in SC, you'd need to nurture a different kind of audience that would likely filter the casual fans.

Now that Kuzuha died and reincarnated in the idol route who do we kneel now, lads?

I say we promote Lize from princess to queen and kneel to her from now on. WHO’S WITH ME!?

>>14363308
I really fucking hate how the only two kinds of nijifags we get here are either the jaded as fuck snideposters who just go "Lol is that what holofags really believe" and the disingenuous fucktards who consider 5k CCV a world shattering event that puts them on par with hololive while at the same thing declaring someone who got 89k a failure and part of a dying branch.

>>14363338
>I'd argue that if Pekora could speak fluent english she'd have 2x the subs that she currently has now.
That would still trail Gura

>>14363308
I am not thread police and I can't control what retarded faggots are saying. I can only provide input when asked and I'm not going to no-life this general so sorry you have a schizo problem, but you can find this shit out by google or opening a wiki.
>>14363335
Overseas branch discussion spiked up with EN's existance but they only ever talked about Bora beforehand, or Noor when she existed (very rarely)

>>14363330
Gura- $20k
Kiara-$12k
Ina-$10k
Ame-$8k

>>14363386
Mori is the top of HoloEN for months. In fact she was always the SC queen. Rest will do much worse.

>>14363334
It does, yes. 1st wave, 2nd wave, Seeds, Gamers, genmates that came later, then units formed due to friendships among other reasons. box pushing still exists in niji jp, it's just different than hololive. heck, box pushing is vtubing in general (in agencies) but somehow fags act like only hololive does it. Maybe because they only watch hololive.

>>14363427
>Gura more than Mori

Sure thing bro.

>>14363356
> Lize
> Idol
lol, at least pick Uiha

>>14363119
wtf, i thought lizeschizo said she was great and close to kuzuha-tier? Is he the same retard who comes here tell that X is inclining when all they're doing is playing some buff content? hmm?

>>14363330
She got 17k actually
>>14354859

>>14363207
I'm sure there are some JOPS who watch them the same way that in terms of statistics a 200 passenger plane will likely house at least 10 faggots and 2 whores that got knocked up. That doesn't make those 10 faggots and 2 pregnant chicks a sizable audience though.

>>14363488
Gura has strong SCs for events and hasn't streamed very much recently, Mori has been getting big paydays all month resulting in her big event being sort of anemic.

>>14363338
Well but Pekora doesn’t know English, or trying to cater to foreign audience. That’s why I said no chuuba is perfect and I just think it’s dumb trying to argue who is better

>>14363445
I wonder does that mean hololive en lost a lot of their hard core super chatters to nijisanji en. Cause Nijisanji en has been inclining lately and have super chat that surpass hololive en. So it seems like the fans switch over.

>>14363465
Or maybe because they are only one who did successfully and with such efficiency that they were able overthrow Niji's dominance and set Nijifags on fire.

>>14359495
whos doing the gta stream? it doesnt appear on holo tv schedule yet

>>14363642
A bit, they also lost some to Council and IRyS. Generally more spread out than it was a year ago when they were the only game in town. That's besides the people that just dropped out of vtubing completely.

>>14363642
??? But HoloEN still mogs them in pure volume though?

>>14363642
>hololive en lost a lot of their hard core super chatters to nijisanji en

Exactly this. They still have reddit so they get big numbers but those fags don't SC.

>>14363356
Get her to 20k at least kneelposters.

She deserves it too.

>>14363729
>hololive en lost a lot of their hard core super chatters to nijisanji en
>exactly this
their scs start falling on February, retard. And next time dont reply to yourself, you disgusting samefag.

>>14363207
NijiEN don't have a lot of viewers full stop, so subdividing that further and saying they have a lot of Japanese viewers is laughable.

>>14363704
Mumei

>>14363356
>>14363797
LIZE, I K-KNEEL!

>>14363551
He's not calling Lize an idol, comprehension-kun.

>>14363729
Uhh... Anonchama?
November
>Myth:128888
>Council 93251
>Lazu 45570
>Obsydia 40147
>Ethyria 60195

And this is with NijiEN having streamed twice as much with SC's almost ALWAYS OPEN. I wouldn't call that surpassing.

>>14363850
Those were just natural fluctuations. Since may it's a free fall. Guess what happened in june?

>>14364035
may is the only green in that period because it was when they had all their new outfit reveals, but at this point im pretty sure you're just some retard baiting for free (you)s anyways, so kys

>>14363984
Now look at the trend.

>look at the trend, look at the trend, no no dont look at the real numbers, look at the trend Im seeing in my head!!

>>14364182
But big number > small number though, right?

>>14363984
>>14364136
>>14364223
Cute cope. It's going to be even better in few more months. HoloEN is sinking fast.

>>14362009
Subs used to matter way more before YT changed its algorithm for video recommendations. Nowadays the home page gives basically no weight to reccing videos based on who you’re subbed to.

Did you anons know that Mito and Toya have no members in their membership? Failures lmao

>>14363984
Wow, Council never streams and they still more than double most if NijiEN. Not a good look fellow Nijibros. We are getting destroyed by Hololive. As a diehard Nijikek I think it is only appropriate to kneel out if respect to Hololive's power. On behalf if Nijikeks everywhere I kneel.

>>14364310
Bring your proof of this.

>>14362477
No. Marginal tax rates don't work like that. There is no point trying to avoid a higher tax bracket because what you lose spending on deductions will never be recouped by your tax return.

>>14364256
Just like Selen in this pic>>14361608 right?

>>14363093
Speaking of Koyori, how would you describe her niche? I can't put my finger on it. It seems to me she has something in her persona and behavior that no one else in Holo has, but I can't describe it. She's obviously a hag, but doesn't fit into classic hag archetype like Mio. She's also a bit of playful dork. Her "joshu-kun" makes me think of something like sexy teacher side characters, but Koyori doesn't have that "mature woman, oneesan" aura as well.

>>14364381
I agree fellow Nijikek. Hololive is too powerful and its time for us to admit that. Very proud Nijikek kneeling to Hololive here.

>>14364439
Babagaki

>>14363984
But that does say a lot of things about council's laziness.

Why are they not streaming more often? And wtf happened to Amelia why does she hate superchats

>>14364439
Organizer and support, but she is branching out from that.

So do you think NijiEN doesn't release any merch just because they want to keep those SCs high, or is it because talents get better cuts from those and so they wouldnt be able to squeeze every penny out of them? Is anykara run by literal jews?

>>14364435
Can't wait for your excuses when we have december data.

So, on the subject of NijiEN. Have they succesfully raised their 7-8k ceiling yet? Or are those close to 10k simultaneous CCV's just one offs?

>>14364561
They already said a month ago that it’s coming soon.

Looking at numbers, almost every vtubers are declining except HoloJP.
Still, why do HoloEN members always like to self-debuff themselves?

>>14364439
She reminds me of Mio but with more gaming

>>14364581
>174k to 34k viewss...
Oh nononono Nijisisters.

>>14364581
A birthday stream not even getting to 10k, in Nijisanji which is suppose to be SC spiritbomb central, isn't exactly to be proud off. Especially coming from your supposed ace.

>>14363729
Pfffff, i thought my theory was on to something.

>June is when YT introduced the "Super thanks" anon.
And i kept saying that it scratched the SC itch especially for EN viewers, leading to way fewer supers.
The timeline matches though it could only be a coincidence. NijiEN appeared in the month this was rolled out so we don't have any data from before it.
https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/introducing-newest-member-supers-family-super-thanks/

>>14361666
It was privated during the Holocaust.

I feel like NijiEN is winning the EN market war. Their market cap has increased to 10k, which is a 33% increase in a month. HoloEN is reclining to a massive extent but their position is so much higher to start with I don't know if it is possible for NijiEN to ever make up the difference. Think of it this way: Has NijiEN ever had an EN gold? Will they?

So just curious but who exactly is Niji's second-in-command? I mean we know Sora and Mito are the respective foundations of each company. FBK seems to be 2nd-in-command for Hololive and can pull rank when needed. Is it Kaede for Nijisanji?

OH NO CHUDWIGS HOW WILL WE RECOVER FROM THIS RECLINE

>>14365125
Jesas, how much did Susan pay for this faggot to move paltforms exactly?

Fauna 3.4k with Minecraft 20 minutes in...

>>14365087
Where are the numbers? Show the numbers.

>>14365125
Probably sitting in chat at
>THE GAME AWARDS 2021
>29,341 waiting

>>14365179
in my head

>>14365177
It's her usual speedrun practice which is a debuff. Mumei got 13k in the server last time.

>>14365162
rumored 4.5 million

>>14364957
Damn, 1.5 years.
It could have been at 7-10 million views by now, depending on when it accelerated.

>>14364735
Selen has the most views not SC.

NijiENfags really thinks this midgets is "winning" against HoloEN?
Such delusional motherfuckers.

>>14364581
The countdown stream will not be included in the December data
So far Selen got $ 14,136 while the best HoloEN member got $32,505

>>14365317
Anon, her countdown was in EN Pacific time, it happened well into 1st of December JST.

Fauna..

>>14365306
It's really just the one guy who has taken residence in this thread for some ungodly reason.

>>14365382
Fauna WHY WHY WHY
You could get big numbers going into normal server, but you choose to be trash.

>fans take after the streamer
I wonder if the nijiEN girls are as delusional as their fans

>>14365087
If they get new outfits or 3D and it's a slow as fuck day, maybe. I'm sure there's been a few days where Ina has won with 8-9k. If their especial event falls on that day and they get 10k they win.

>>14365104
Kazoo

>>14365104
Kaede is the first in command of my dick.

>>14365283
>174k views on a birthday streams
>Most views in NijiEN
That's honestly depressing... Like being proud of a 3"11 midget in a group of 3 ft midgets

>>14365374
Falseflaggerchama, I...

>approaching burger hours
>suddenly a lot of midget number "discussion"
yeah like always

>>14364735
Teakeks... we got too cocky.

>>14365279
Tsukiakari is sitting at around 1.5M though

>>14365451
I'm curious what's the meta of EN streaming currently because I feel it's obviously not a gaming stream

>>14365830
It was released one year and one month ago