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>> No.14327945

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.14328213

>>14327915
Why a nijinigger op?

>> No.14328284

>>14328077
True but they completely failed to capitalize on the opportunity. The current state of EN is like if Pekora reclined back to getting 5k CCV a stream despite the rest of JP booming. Gura got 3 million subs. What did she do with them? Gura has 1.2 million Twitter followers, what does she do with them? Where's the EN box pushing? The EN special events? Do they even plan out their content ahead of time?

EN is a branch full of Aquas.

>> No.14328300

>>14328213
Should've used rosemi's chart from earlier stream for maximum shitposting.

>> No.14328307

>>14328213
This is a Nijianti general, newfriend

>> No.14328361

>>14328284
>EN is a branch full of Aquas.
That's a good analogy. I get what you're saying and agree with ya.

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>>14328300
I would've used this as the op to be honest

>> No.14328405

>>14328284
Hey atleast aqua have idol reps she can justify her lazy ass on.

>> No.14328412

>>14328284
Aqua is a menhera mental midget.

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>>14328412
HEY
She's a menhara mental midget who is also an actual midget!

>> No.14328488

>>14328284
Nigga Aqua is busy as heck these days. Check out her twitter and you'll know she mostly work offline this year with all those events and campaigns

>> No.14328589

>>14328488
Don't you get it anon? If she's not streaming she might as well not exist!
Don't look at all the sponsors, merch and events she's featured on or working for because that goes against my narrative.

>> No.14328702

>>14328589
Sponsorships, merch, and events don't matter when your audience is barely above Flare's.

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14328721

Here is the schedule for the day so far.
>Nene overlapping
>Iofi not overlapping
WAIT WHAT?

>> No.14328725

>aqua is busy
Hey Ayame is very busy as well with all the sponsors, merch and events.

>> No.14328758

>>14328589
And despite all Aquas hard work she's gone backwards in popularity, especially in comparison to the consistent streamers who have almost doubled their CCV this year.

Why this is so is an exercise left for the reader

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14328784

>>14328702

>> No.14328863

>>14328405
So does Mori, but she became an endurance streamer on top of that.

>> No.14328887
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14328887

>IRyS has inclined
>Kronii has reclined

Imagine being given the opportunity to be huge and throwing it away because mental illness.

>> No.14328906

>>14328589
sponsors, merch and events are good anon, but its such a stupid idea for Aqua to neglect what made her popular in the first place.

>> No.14328909

>>14328488
What good is working offline if it means less people watch you and listen to your songs? Seems counter productive.

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14328922

How many overlaps this time? 9? 10?

>> No.14328946

>>14328589
I'm pretty sure the holos have to pay for their own merchandise and get a larger share of the profits as a result, which means if she isn't streaming and promoting it she's effectively losing money.

>> No.14328953

>>14328758
Because rarely games anymore retard. She used to be one of the sweaty gamers but now all she does is karaoke and zatsudan.
Her last gaming stream was 10 days ago (Korone game long after the buff wore off) and before that her last solo gaming stream before that was on 10/15, Minecraft.

>> No.14328954

>>14328887
She just need to start streaming frequently again. Moomers has been inclining since mid Nov and that was when she started streaming again. Keep SC opening during SC reading streams, too, and hopefully that can gradually heal the damage caused so far within a month or two

>> No.14328968

>>14328589
>muh merch muh sponsors
Isn't this called Nijicope?
Where are the numbers for those things, anon? Surely you can point to them.

>> No.14328976

>>14328906
>>14328909
She's probably swimming in cash. Not the worst trade in the world.

>> No.14329083

>>14328922
>Luna LFD2
>Matsuri L4D2
Feels like a lifetime ago. Maybe Matsuri should come back into the box and pair with Luna again.

>> No.14329113

Safe to say average en views:

Irys 4-5k
Kronii 6-7k
Mumei 5-6k
Sana 2-3k
Bae 3-4k
Ina 8-9k
Watson 5-7k
Mori 4-5k
Kiara 3-4k
Gura 15-20k
Fauna 5k

>> No.14329118

>>14328976
No shit she is rich, they all are, but she is still shitting her numbers .

>> No.14329125

>>14328953
Now you're getting it! So whats the most important thing for a Holo to do if they want more people watching their content? Is it dance lessons? Singing lessons? Merch deals? Is it anything they do behind the scenes? No its visibility. Stream often, stream things people want to watch and plan out your content to maximize views. Pekora does this and thats why shes inclined so hard. Miko and Subaru do it, so does Chloe.

>> No.14329133

>>14328284
the only reason i can think of for them unable to copy their JP counterpart strategy is different timezone and imbalance amount of offline project, CMIIW but only Ina and Mori has the most offline project, i dont know what the rest of them do beside streaming. My solution for different timezone is move them all to one country either Indonesia or US (with Mori and Irys as exception, let them stay in Japan. And i prefer Indonesia since Cover already have branch office), that way, it's easier for them to know each other better by meeting IRL and funneling/box pushing by having no more TZ difference

>> No.14329140

Now that Aqua is back to streaming. Do you think she can regain her viewers like Miko?

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14329141

I miss my autistic, Fromsoft-speedrunning, drool-slurping onyan like you nigs wouldn't believe. Goddamn shame she's balllllls deep into idolshit.

>> No.14329162

>>14329113
>A stream I saw, the last time I check their streams kek

>> No.14329190

>>14328721
It's probably just revealing extra accessories, so people can overlap. Not the first time happens.

>> No.14329207

>>14328968
You can actually see that her limited merch sold out quickly and the sponsorships she's getting, unlike Niji.

>> No.14329219

>>14329113
Is this the last stream you saw? Kek

>> No.14329266

>>14328721
Don't worry, Risu will do the overlap later lol.

>> No.14329333

>>14328968
It's a cope when her available numbers (CCV, Views, SC, etc.) aren't up to par. However, it's not like Aqua is doing poorly - her median was 15.1k, her average was 21.3k and she made 35k+ (slightly more than Kiara) last month with just less than 10 streams.

>> No.14329374

[Number Adjacent News] Unarchived karaokes may be going the way of the Dodo according to IRyS, due to new permissions fuckery.

>> No.14329455

>>14329140
>Now that Aqua is back to streaming
>implying

>> No.14329481

>>14329374
Well shit.
That would explain why they moved to take down Hololive Sings after all this time, if they're getting pressured on the legal front about unarchived Karaokes...
Sigh. Fucking permissions.

>> No.14329482

>>14329207
You can see Niji merch selling out too. You can't say what she's earning with any of her merch.
>>14329333
No, she's doing fine for a Holo who doesn't stream, but anons seem to be sipping from the Niji copium pot and not understanding what they're saying.

>> No.14329531

>>14329374
The true Gura killer.

>> No.14329602

>>14329374
I wonder how this will affect English corporate streamers. IRyS probably will have an easier time since she can just sing Japanese songs, but how will EN corporate VTubers deal with this IF (IRyS wasn't clear so >we don't know what changed) they can't even sing English songs in unarchived karaoke again? Wait for their companies to get some permissions / license? (which will probably limit it quite significantly)

>> No.14329608

>>14329481
Doesn't help their multimillionaire dollar acquisition (Ludwig) blatantly started playing copyright shit to get bans cause he was pissed at youtube.

>> No.14329663

>>14329602
Disband all of them.

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14329667

Let's talk about the number of schizos in SEAland. Why are they so mentally ill? And why is this thread so fast during SEAnigger power hour?

>> No.14329673

>>14329602
Personally I think gaming is still and will always be the number 1 most important aspect of vtubing.

Not having archived karaoke won’t affect them much at all.

>> No.14329744

>>14329608
YT sounds dumb. When you finally manage to get some normies high profile streamers, you should lighten the restrictions to enable those streamers instead. Having Ludwig banned followed by tightening their restrictions doesn't sound good, especially when music broadcasting is one of YT's advantages over Twitch.

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>>14329667

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>>14329374
Oh no no no no this is like gura's only way to get 30k+ these days.. aaaaaaaaa no more public unarchived karaoke

>> No.14329985

>>14329744
What a stupid shot in the foot the Ludwig stuff is for youtube to be honest. If Ludwig got a golden carpet treatment for atleast 3 months, a good amount of twitch streamers would've exodus because of the drama which is what youtube was banking for.

>> No.14329996

>>14329374
This would fucking suck. Hope you enjoy 90's anime themes and Vocaloid songs because that is all you are going to get from karaoke streams now, lol.

>> No.14330050

>>14329374
why? I don't think they've gotten a strike before

>> No.14330077

>>14329482
Do you even know how the Nijimerch cope works?

>> No.14330106

>>14330050
She didn't elaborate, but people are thinking it's Youtube's doing. It's unlikely that Cover management just randomly decided to change their streaming rules

>> No.14330110

>>14329996
EN is not the only one I watch anon, this is nothing to me.

>> No.14330136

ame 5k GET....

>> No.14330155

>muh ccv
the only thing important is money

>> No.14330186

>>14329984
Pretty based. Pedo Shart will be a sub 10k liver soon enough.
>>14329996
I don't watch EN so I don't mind.

>> No.14330234

>>14329374
Good. Fuck unarchived karaoke.

>> No.14330242

>>14329374
Huge win for nijichads

>> No.14330244

>>14329133
>the only reason i can think of for them unable to copy their JP counterpart strategy is different timezone and imbalance amount of offline project
I think the main reason is just how introverted the majority of EN are. It makes it really hard to organize these big events and when these collabs do happen they're often painfully awkward so there isn't much motive to do them again.

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14330253

>>14330155
They're relative to each other.
Pic rel
>>14330234
t.NijiEN

>> No.14330258
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14330258

>EN is a bunch of Aquas
>Aqua is currently pulling 11k on an unscheduled guerilla zatsudan in the middle of the workday in Japan
Doing Aqua a tremendous disservice with that comparison

>> No.14330274

i dont understand why only holos are affected by this

>> No.14330339

>>14330274
I don't think anyone has said that only Holos are affected, though. It remains to be seen, but it's entirely possible that everyone will be affected and IRyS is just the first one to mention it on stream

>> No.14330346

>>14330274
Because Nijis already banned unarchieved karaoke stream newfagchama.

>> No.14330357

>>14330136
Remember when teamates kept repeating that Ame was going to pass Mori in subs? Gods that was so long ago.

>> No.14330375

>>14330274
Who else sings English songs on archive? Nijisanji isn't allowed to do non-JP songs even unarchived. Don't know about the state of small fry corpos but they're probably too small for anyone to give a shit about.

>> No.14330411

>>14330346
So Holos have been skirting the rules with their unarchived streams? Good riddance, then

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14330416

K-Kronii 5.4k get...yay...

>> No.14330464

>>14330411
Yeah, nothing as amazing as DMCA and the record labels that have screwed artists and consumers alike since the Beatles first came over with their bowl haircuts.

>> No.14330471

>>14330357
It's on a period when ame's actually streaming
minecraft regularly while mori is depressed. But i never expect ame to achieve that.

>> No.14330482

>>14330411
Yes they have been skirting the rules just as much as niji have been skirting the stream but not monetized rules and both fanbases have been very smug about it, and now they both cant do it anymore.

>> No.14330489

What is opposite of number rot?

>> No.14330500

Why are so many creaming at the prospect of EN failing or even disappearing?

>> No.14330525

>>14330489
Midget appreciation

>> No.14330542

>>14330482
Is this karma for Cover and Hololive?

>> No.14330557

HoloEN is such a failure. Even global struggles to hit 1500 these days and often dies at sub 1k. 6 more livers but it happens to get slower and less active? /vt/ is the litmus test for trends and HoloEN is going into the dirt.

>> No.14330556

>>14328863
Which concerts is Mori preparing for?

>> No.14330573

>>14330500
I'm guessing many types of people:
Last samurai
Nijisisters
numberfags who are disappointed by council
ENschizo

>> No.14330572

>>14330500
It's just Nijifags and jpfags

>> No.14330579

Its over... vtuber boom is ending.

>> No.14330593

>>14330542
Is it, they can't monetize those unarchived karaokes. Something like Guwa singing kpop or American pop songs being reuploaded could get her in trouble if Susan is serious about this.

>> No.14330608

>>14330557
Ok this is just blatantly false. Threads dying early has more to do with bumpschizo than anything.

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>>14330579
lol

>> No.14330660 [DELETED] 

>>14330573
It’s doomposters.

They do this shit all of the time and are constantly proved wrong.
“Guru’s gonna graduate”
“Gen 5 is collapsing”
“Kronii has a dick”

Just rrats and bullshit

>> No.14330662

>>14330557
I remember when some people actually rejected HoloEN when it was first announced, and they got flamed to shit. I wonder how good they must feel now to be proven right.

>> No.14330671

>>14330579
its over, i guess ill just watch mr beast and dream now

>> No.14330694

>>14330660
Oh yeah I forgot about those guys too and dramafags.

>> No.14330707

>>14330500
It’s doomposters.

They do this shit all of the time and are constantly proved wrong.
“Gura’s gonna graduate”
“Gen 5 is collapsing”
“Kronii has a dick”

Just rrats and bullshit

>> No.14330713

>>14330482
In all seriousness, how serious is Youtube against burner accounts? Let's say, if Ame creates additional YT accounts (i.e: "AmeSing", "AmeSing2", etc.) and use them purely to sing unarchived karaoke, will YT take action against Ame's main account just because they share the same IP?

>> No.14330725

>>14330671
For me, it's Xqc and tyler1.

>> No.14330729

>>14329374
Can't wait for more "EN vsinger singing JP songs"

>> No.14330731

>>14330642
Why are you posting these failures?

>> No.14330734

>>14330500
I'm not creaming myself, I'm just reading the tea leaves. The decline is noticeable and sharp. I would prefer it if they were doing better but it isn't true.

>>14330660
>“Guru’s gonna graduate”
This might be true. She has IRL troubles and the lack of 3D has demoralized her. She needs 3D to get her to care. What she's gonna get is her new outfit she likes getting ruined by rhombus rigger and then spending time away from this shit. It will sober her up.

>> No.14330739

>>14330662
To be fair Myth looked really strong at the start. If they actually buckled down and did what Gen 6 are doing then they'd be 30k streamers for sure. They just didn't for various reasons. Kiara too menhera, Mori thought being a vtuber was just like being a twitch tiddy streamer and had her mind poisoned by the TT fags, Amelia slowly grew bitter and hateful of her own audience and Gura never gave a shit at all.

>> No.14330751

If someone told me last year that Aqua would only pull 8k viewers a year later, I wouldn't believe him.
I don't even know if I should feel sad since she's doing what she loves but I can only see her getting Roboco/Choco tier next year.
If she's living her dream, that's ok but if her dream is to go further, it's not possible anymore unless she goes back to full streaming.
Graduation in 2022

>> No.14330763

>>14330662
Feels good to know that EN will be dissolved after the outfit reveals
Next year: the return of CN

>> No.14330764

>>14330713
I can't remember who but there are cases of YouTubers who got their main striked down for doing that. You probably can get away with it if you're a small channel.

>> No.14330765

>>14330713
Just do a “watchalong” where the SC’s come in on the main channel and sing on a fake channel.

>> No.14330770

>>14330500
Global attracted a LOT of newfags and normalfags.

>> No.14330780

>>14330713
Bad, like a whole company accounts get banned bad by association bad.

>> No.14330806

>>14330739
Ina...

>> No.14330824

>>14330500
Karma for ENfags adopting the Nijinigger narrative and bragging for an entire year about how EN was the only thing propping up hololive.

>> No.14330829

>>14330763
You might be trolling, but I honestly think China might provide more stable revenue source than the West.

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>>14329374
Maybe this has to do with it as well.

>> No.14330846

>>14330713
Narucummy can't stream on his alternate game Youtube anymore because Susan banhammered his main.

>> No.14330845

>>14328284
>If

>> No.14330849

>>14330375
Indies. Small en companies like prism do unarchived karaoke https://youtu.be/skTwAxU9JJw

>> No.14330889

>>14329996
There's like tens of thousands vocaloid songs out there across genre so i see no problem. And it's not like the chuubas ever singing kino EN songs anyway. They only ever sang those shitty billboard top 50 trash

>> No.14330890

>>14330642
they are going colder faster than fresh piss on the ground

>> No.14330900

>>14330829
I agree, fellow chink, Cover should have never abandoned our bugland!
DOWN WITH EN!

>> No.14330911

>14330763
Why are you guys not putting chink poster when this guy show up kek

>> No.14330929

>>14330834
Wasn't that more of a stupid partnership fuckery between toei and the YouTuber.

>> No.14330934

>>14330671
>>14330725
>not watching the eternal KING Pewdipie
ngmi

>> No.14330952

>>14330573
>Last samurai
who?

>> No.14330970

>>14330929
>Anime footage
Come on anon, your copyright reps.

>> No.14330980

Watson 5k get.

>> No.14330992

>>14330911
Dunno who you're responding to and not scrolling up to check post number so I don't give a fuck. You totally owned him by denying him a (You) though

>> No.14331030

>>14329996
I dont mind. This is a weeb hobby anyway

>> No.14331033

>>14330911
I despise HoloEN and always have. I'm tired of pretending I don't just because the bugs hate it. I hate China way more than HoloEN but now that China is permanently out of Hololive's future I can now hope problem #2 goes away.

>> No.14331051

i thought aqua streams less because she activated her menheraness and can't stand the antis anymore
glad shes doing alot of things behind the scenes

>> No.14331066

>>14330929
Toei claimed videos discussing a bunch of random anime that Toei didn't even make like naruto.

>> No.14331068

>>14330970
The channel was partnered with toei to do content from what I've heard and at the same time the channel got spitroasted with hundreds of manual copystrikes. It's a funny situation

>> No.14331080

>>14329125
>Pekora does this and thats why shes inclined so hard.
Note that this incline only in metrics that visible to us (CCV, VOD views, etc...)
And even then, the one metric that directly tied to money, which is SC, she's nowhere near the top

>> No.14331131

I will never understand the mindset of last samurais

>> No.14331135

>>14331033
>t. Indog
Kek no need to hide your identity when the problem is the ID branch

>> No.14331159

>>14331080
>she's nowhere near the top
She's top 10. Bit rich to say she's nowhere near the top, and superchats aren't all that lucrative compared to their other sources of income anyway.

>> No.14331193

>>14331080
Have you seen how many sponsored games she pkayed already?
And try looking atvthe Top10 SCs. She's there.

>> No.14331195

>>14331131
You don't understand why you can't post cartoons on /a/?

>> No.14331197

>>14331135
Not at all. ID doesn't even cross my mind since I don't really consider them part of hololive. ID can disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care.

>> No.14331203

>>14331080
Anon you're archive reps.

>> No.14331227

>>14331197
Nice try zumcuck

>> No.14331240

>>14331080
>SC is the only way to get money

>> No.14331241

>>14331197
Nice try LMAO, keep being a schizo indog

>> No.14331243

>>14331195
>/a/ is retarded and thinks anime is actually better animated than your typical Western cartoon
>we must be like them too because muh love Nippon banzai

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>>14331243
>Comes to a site created to share the love of Japanese culture
>Whines about his western roasties being shunned

>> No.14331289

>>14331080
Her goal isn't to become a billionaire, it's to become the top streamer. She probably already has enough money to retire forever but she doesn't. When you have money, you look for popularity.
Everyone using the superchat ranking to judge how successful a streamer is don't look into what the streamer actually wants.

>> No.14331293

>>14328954
just play fucking minecraft on the server, holy fucking shit. fans love to see interactions between the girls.

>> No.14331340

>>14331293
minecraft is dead until the server updates to the newest patch

>> No.14331356

>>14331293
Kronii is a very petty woman. People complained about her playing Minecraft off stream so her response is "fine, no minecraft ever"

>> No.14331357

Unironically, does anyone here have a shrine of Hirohito in their home?

>> No.14331361

>>14331080
She stopped doing full superchat readings ever since the incident you know.

>> No.14331439

>>14331227
>>14331241
Nope. JP or bust
>l-last samurai
I'd given EN a chance if they had any soul like JP does but it just doesn't work. I can't wait until they decide Hololive isn't for them and peacefully retire on good terms.

>> No.14331448

>>14331288
funny how these Western """roasties""" are the ones advancing the concept of vtubing while the nip whores just stagnate, without Western ideas and creativity from streamers like Coco hololive would be long dead

>> No.14331450 [DELETED] 

>>14331357
From Grimgal?

>> No.14331503

>>14331448
>funny how these Western """roasties""" are the ones advancing the concept of vtubing while the nip whores just stagnate
They're advancing the concept of dropping from 20k viewers to 5k within a year lmao

>> No.14331509

>>14331356
That’s a retarded decision on her part. It was one of her most viewed types of streams. People like her Minecraft streams.

But she said it herself on stream that she would rather play alone. She games too much off stream and then doesn’t do shit on stream except a random Diablo II game.
She is causing her own problems. Just play games that people enjoy watching you play instead of 80 hours off stream in the bunkeronii.

>> No.14331521

>>14331159
>>14331193
>>14331240

Try numberfag merch sales and sponsorship deals cut, then come back to me (Yes, BOTH brand deals and game deals)

Also, Lamy is in the top 5 regarding SC, but we don't compare Lamy's CCV to Pekor now, do we?

>> No.14331550

>>14331503
HoloX did that in less than 2 weeks LMAO

>> No.14331557

>>14331448
>advancing the concept of vtubing
to what? becoming cg e-girls?

>> No.14331570

>>14331521
No because Lamy isn't anywhere near as popular as Pekora because she doesn't optimize for views like Pekora does which was the entire point

>> No.14331577

>>14331521
I dunno though Lamy's CCVs aren't that bad compared to ENs

>> No.14331590
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14331590

>>14330829
Is this bait?

>> No.14331591

>>14331439
YWNBJ

>> No.14331609

>>14331557
if you just stop larping as a last samurai for a minute you'll realize that everything you like about vtubing can be traced back to a Western mindset

>> No.14331613

speaking of lamy, whats the narrative of how she rose up the supa ranking?

>> No.14331616

>>14331439
I dislike the other branches for the same reason you do I guess (they feel ingenuine) but I wouldn't want them to graduate

>> No.14331641

>>14331509
>Just play games that people enjoy watching you play
>People were screaming about how they hate MC prior to SportFes

>> No.14331656

>>14331616
Same, I prefer genuine girls like Ayame instead

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>>14331550
Don't do this to yourself EN bro...

>> No.14331671

>>14331616
Schizo mentality is just like that anon, no hope from that guy

>> No.14331677

Kronii's stream today has a pitiful 5000 viewers. Is Hololive dying?

>> No.14331694

>>14331677
>>14328371

>> No.14331699

>>14331613
lots of (interesting) sc reading
she's farmed parasocial relationships with her fanbase as well

>> No.14331714

>>14331657
>Lui isn't HoloX
Okay, retard
Also
>implying sub-15k with debut buff is good
Kek

>> No.14331731

what the fuck is a last samurai? is it some vwhorejo term? it just came out of nowhere

>> No.14331733

>>14331671
I think it's fine to dislike things.

>> No.14331734

You guys just don't understand niji sanji's plan.
Slow and steady at 1% growth is fine.

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>>14331448
>>14331550
>>14331609

>> No.14331752

>>14331609
NTA, but not me. Most of things I like about VTubing can be traced back to JP idols, unless you are claming that JP idol scene can be traced back to some sort of Western mindset too

>> No.14331758

>>14331641
The numbers tell the true tale Anon.

Minecraft Always does well. It’s a great game for zatsudan/talking, for collabs, for EN-JP interactions, and for fucking around.

The views are always high on Minecraft streams. And the bunkeronii was so loved that people wouldn’t shut the fuck up about it.

So what did she do? Hid the fucking bunkeronii from everyone else and only worked on it off stream. Very smart.

>> No.14331764

>>14331714
That was a morning JP timeslot but primetime for EN.

>> No.14331762

>>14331731
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0325710/

Don't quote me on this, but the resemblance in behavior is funny

>> No.14331766

The self hating weebs were basically non existent here before gen 6. Why can't they just talk about gen 6 over on /jp/? Fuck out of here faggots.

>> No.14331807

>>14331764
>coping when presented with the truth
Get fucked, you retard
Debut buff is debut buff

>> No.14331809

>>14331766
Back to your containment thread, globalfag

>> No.14331810

>>14331613
>narrative
she just captured the right audience. she knows a lot about drinks but can also have a ojou air around her so salary-men flock to her. she also does sc readings and does them really well so people feel that she cares making them stick around

>> No.14331828

>>14331677
just your brain

>> No.14331838

>>14331340
>minecraft is dead
it's dead because they made it dead. minecraft is a game that you have to create content for yourself. hell, have your fans submit buildings that you can build on the server. create jump maps like pesuke and then challenge other members to do it and improve it.

>> No.14331844

>>14331807
lmao

>> No.14331859

>>14331810
Btw, speaking about Lamy
Where the hell did the yakuza rrat came from, I did my archive rep, but can't trace it

>> No.14331881

>>14331844
>no arguments

>> No.14331885

>>14331838
Pekora literally gave EN a good content to react to by building a new Halloween trap but no one plays in EN so it never got used kek.

>> No.14331887

>>14331809
ironic

>> No.14331911

>>14331766
How is shitting on EN last samurais? Remember where you are, people here shit on everything for fucks sake

>> No.14331916

>>14331616
there's no reason to dislike another branch unless the whole branch openly hating another branch or stop making money
>b-but muh view
As long as the branch still making money, there's no reason to close it, only retarded/mentally ill neet, burger flipper, or actual janny said otherwise

>> No.14331924

>>14331859
Lamy is a yakuza princess. Why? She's rich as fuck and powerful enough to make the people who doxxed Aloe go into hiding.

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>> No.14331934

>>14331859
there's a reason for why you can't find it in the archives

>> No.14331946

>>14331911
Murritards are always used to playing victims

>> No.14331951

I'd like to gloat at the faces of those EN sheeples on Reddit, Twitter, FB, IG, Tiktok but it seems they lack the self control to not get mad. So disappointed. I mean, I already prepared the numbers as well.

>> No.14331955

>>14331859
its started on /jp/ before this place existed so if you haven't checked it yet there would be the next place
i barely remember it but i think it came from a) Lamys parents giving her a huge loan for her setup and b) Lamy talking about getting costly gifts from parents. some then joked that she is a sheltered daughter of a yakuza lord

>> No.14331963

wait till the brappers gender reveal stream before arguing.
about the lamy narratives, i was more wondering how fast did she rise? what's the timescale and the significant moments... was she always that high up in supa from the beginning?

>> No.14331962

>>14331916
>there's no reason to dislike another branch
Sure there is. They bring the wrong audience in and start changing the overall viewer culture for the worse. Entirely valid reason unless you can explain why I shouldn't despise reddit normalfags

>> No.14331989

>>14331807
NTA, but HoloX's debut buff has faded or started fading a while ago anon. Going by IRyS, Council and Edengumi, debut buffs seem to last around a week nowadays before starting to fade. As of today, HoloX is on their 12nd day

>> No.14332024

>>14331951
Truly we JP fans are superior with our superb taste in chuba choices such as Ayame
>Ojou, I kneel!

>> No.14332036

>>14331962
It's a little late for that don't you think? ENs existed for over a year now and it hasn't brought the end of Hololive as we know. JP talents like Coco and Marine have done more to court le reddit normalfags than any EN talent so I don't see your point.

>> No.14332038

>>14331911
Last samurai shitting on EN like everyone else, I give you that
But you will notice when they keep saying to remove the EN branch and "JP VTubing is better"

>> No.14332050

>>14331962
because plenty of people hate larping faggots like you as well, and that doesn't mean I hate whoever dragged you into the hellhole that is the vtuber community - that's on you being a faggot not them being entertaining enough to make you stick around.

>> No.14332074

>thread is bombarded with JP vs EN
NijiEN ate shit I guess.

>> No.14332101

>>14332038
JP vtubing is better. You don't watch anime dubbed do you?

>> No.14332112

>>14332074
>implying anyone was even watching them to get assmad
it's threadwatchers anonchama

>> No.14332111

>>14331989
You are comparing the EN gen with JP gen though. The audience is different.

Western audience is half retarded. The first month IRyS and Council had massive amounts of spam and stupid shit. Those people went away, and only come in the beginning.

JP isn’t like that. They don’t have bandwagon retards that pop in for a couple weeks to soak around and then leave back to twitch.

>> No.14332115

>>14331962
Anon
You're on /vt/

WE ARE THE WRONG AUDIENCE

>> No.14332128

>>14331885
they have gotten complacent and the arrival of gen 6 showed how bad it has gotten. luckily for them, new outfits for myth could be the adrenaline shot that can bring people back. it is up to them whether to create content that will keep their audience entertained or be complacent and stagnate. Ame's VRchat thing too. these are golden opportunities and if they don't seize them, EN management needs talking to. you can only be so lax without tanking the entire branch.

>> No.14332129
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how about just watch what you like

>> No.14332132

>>14331340
>>14331838
Mumei was able to pull a little over 13k last week in Minecraft. As long as they actually play on the server and interact with other Holos’ work, they can get the CCVs.

>> No.14332146

>>14332101
You're the type of retard to watch Avatar the last Airbender redubbed in Japanese with subtitles "because it feels more authentic"

>> No.14332156

>>14332115
THE CALLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE THREAD

>> No.14332162

>>14331881
I didn't need any.

>> No.14332164

>>14332036
The JP members post on Reddit a lot more than the EN members, lol.

>> No.14332167

>>14332101
The 3 dubs I ever watched are all Gundam, funny enough
G, Stardust Memory and Unicorn (The OVA, not the series)

>> No.14332199

>>14332146
How does that make any sense? Vtubing was invented in Japan and 95% of them are designed as anime girls which is a distinctly Japanese art style. Vtubing is a fundamentally Japanese hobby.

>> No.14332224

>>14332132
I honestly don't understand why it's so hard for them to play minecraft with each other. unless they genuinely don't enjoy the game, it'll always give good numbers and moments.

>> No.14332237

>>14332199
Youtube was created in Amurican
Checkmate Nipfag

>> No.14332244

>>14332162
>gets BTFO
>I-I don't need any arguments

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>>14332199
>Vtubing was invented in Japan

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>>14331963
She was a powerhouse from early on.Honestly with her being very japanese she filtered the fuck out of EOPs. early growth i guess would be her ShishiLamy horror dates and later her MC antics with Nenechi

>> No.14332291

>>14332101
I don't watch anime at all because anime is for fucking nerds. Now I know why you are the way you are fucking nerd.

>> No.14332302

>>14332111
Edengumi is JP though

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>>14332129
sure thing, fellow Nakiricuck, lets watch Ayame's next stream! see you in 3 months

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>>14332247
>EN fans aren't complete cancer! Let me prove it by posting annoying orange and outing myself as a worthless QA faggot

>> No.14332334

>>14332291
t. European >>14308612

>> No.14332340

>>14332311
How are those NFT's coming along faggot?

>> No.14332349

>>14332224
I think the managers need to start helping put shit together.

EN is full of socially inept shut ins. But unlike the JP branches, they don’t have in person meetups, dance lessons, etc where they can bring up collabs and projects.
The managers should help them get some projects (other than fucking myth breakers) going. And get some more games approved.

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these retards are all qafags arent they

>> No.14332429

Kek this arguments is pretty retarded and funny at the same time

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14332435

let's test it out:
every post below this that doesn't talk numbers will die in their sleep tonight

>> No.14332454

>>14332435
Don't threaten me with a good time

>> No.14332465

>>14332115
WE ARE THE RIGHT AUDIENCE DUMBASS

HOW DO YOU THINK THEY CAN SURVIVE THSIS FUCKING INDUSTRY?

>> No.14332478

the numbers mason
what do they mean

>> No.14332518

>>14332435
The number 5 is fucking overrated, sure it looks cool and it's satisfying to say but it's a fucking prime number and its products are boring as shit since they can only end in another 5 or 0.

>> No.14332530

>>14332465
>HOW DO YOU THINK THEY CAN SURVIVE THSIS FUCKING INDUSTRY?
Probably by never coming here. Get your head out of your ass. You only need to look at what's happened to ever chuba who /vt/ has groomed to see why >we are the wrong audience.

>> No.14332538

>>14331356
It is not a matter of playing minecraft off stream. Problem is that Kronii kept hijacking other council members' minecraft streams. Even Ina's.

She was getting massive boost since she was on everyone's stream, but it was at the expense of other members..

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14332563

>>14331989
>12nd

>> No.14332608

>>14331962
>bring wrong audience
at worst they will only change EN branch culture, normies/EOP wont touch JP at all, those who care to learn have watched JP already and JP culture would have been changed since long ago
>despise reddit
funny you despise them because it wasnt EN who brought plebit to Hololive, here's a hint, she used dragon girl as her avatar

>> No.14332629

>>14332538
what a coincidence that once the girl acting like a bot on Minecraft, leading to many impromptu collabs, stopped playing, that the EN server fucking died. I wonder what on earth that could possibly mean?

>> No.14332663

>>14332435
If Pete can't do it, neither can you

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>thread gets really fast out of nowhere with a bunch of stupid shit being posted
THEY HAVE AWOKEN

>> No.14332729

>>14332465
This >>14332530
We're not even represent the EN audience, which is already fickle and thin-spread as shit, let alone the Vtuber audience

>> No.14332750

>>14332371
Yes, and now you understand why the threads have been infinitely shittier since that place got shut down. holoX just brought even more retarded bullshit tourists here to Mick because people just have to respond to idiot hottakes and shitposting.

>> No.14332807

>>14332224
HoloEN doesn’t seem to enjoy it for any extended period, except for special events like the server merge and the Sports Festival. Mumei in particular doesn’t interact much with the game, but she was too tired to do BotW like she intended and she figured doing something on the server would be an easy way to provide content. Comparing that to the other Minecraft streams shows that the Minecraft buff comes almost entirely from the server and the potential for interaction between Holos rather than the game itself, so whether they actually like the game or are good at it is irrelevant.

>> No.14332811

>>14329374
Oh nonononono how will Moona incline now? Unarchived karaoke is the only thing that gets her going.. Pekora abandoned her, getting shit number on Minecraft.. Is this why she spammed Unarchived karaoke lately??? IF this does happen, Ollie will be #1 of HoloID!!!

>> No.14332820

>>14332349
cant happen unless Cover force them to live in the same country

>> No.14332824

>>14332371
yep and later this place will be filled with tourists when Mori streams her outfit reveal

>> No.14332874

>>14332824
no, they will flock to either Mori general or pinned thread

>> No.14332998

>>14332129
I only watch girls with big voluptuous numbers.

>> No.14333023

>>14332998
watch valkyrae and amouranth then?

>> No.14333086

Anyone know what the likes/retweet number for the Myth 1st outfit announcement vs the Myth 2nd new outfit announcement?

>> No.14333090

Towa getting 7k with apex?? What's happening bros? Nun bora on VC??

>> No.14333095

>>14333023
Are they 2d?

>> No.14333147

>>14333090
She has a schedule up for once. Also 3 streams today iirc.

>> No.14333208

>>14333147
Wtf happened to her? She's suddenly energized.
Did she drink Pekora's juices or somethinh

>> No.14333272

>>14333208
she is busy with recording next week and wants to stream more today.

>> No.14333299

>>14333272
Ohh i see, thanks for the info

>> No.14333644

>>14331931
This is beyond sad, Council truly is completely worthless. I hope that Myth's new outfits lit a fire on their asses.

>> No.14333827

Why are English IRL streamers so strong? Even mid-tier streamers get like up to 20-30k CCV per stream. Watching them while numberjerking is so satisfying.

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>>14331080
>SC
Do your reps anon. She still the number 3 in terms of SC.

>> No.14333863

>>14333827
are you talking about IRL category streamers or streamers who aren't vtubers? the latter is just the natural evolution of let's players.

>> No.14333921

>>14333850
Considering how much she streams that doesn't add up to a great ratio, especially compared to Marine who doesn't stream nearly as much as Pekora does.

>> No.14333932

>>14333850
Power of gachikoi and unicorn fandead

>> No.14333994

>>14333921
>ratio
Nijinigge-
She straight up said that she won't read SCs. Also she's still at the top which disproves >>14331080

>> No.14334001

>>14333921
>ratio
rumao

>> No.14334025

>>14333827
Those are not 'mid tier' you dolt. Mid tier is more like 5-10k range, and even then that's still far, far, far above what the vast majority of channels ever see on Twitch. Unironic numberrot.

>> No.14334058

>>14330713
Susan can permanently ban you from the platform, it doesn't matter how many channels you make, if you get one of those, the moment Susan detects that it's you your new channels get deleted

>> No.14334076

>>14329374
Nah, Calli just did an unarchived musical karaoke like two days ago and was also planning to do a rebroadcast. In any case, it's still unconfirmed plus there are ways to sing songs without meeting legal issues. It's a karaoke, it's in the same realm as Cover songs which Youtube has millions of. They aren't even monetizing it.

>> No.14334197

>>14334076
I watched the vod and she just said that eurobeats karaoke is a no go due to changes on how they'll handle permissions.

I don't think it meant No Unarchive Karaoke ever. Maybe a few more restrictions but not total ban.

>> No.14334216

>>14175698
they're similar, but "slut" just means overly promiscuous, "whore" seems to mean that they use it to get money/advantages/whatever.

>> No.14334238

We are already tired of dicussing outfit number I assume?

>> No.14334263

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0f7PUYJuk
>haachama is playing game

>> No.14334296

>>14334263
Haachama has fallen very far from her 20k schizo days.

>> No.14334303

>>14334263
those numbers though....oh well, she doesn't care so whatever

>> No.14334313

>>14334263
Her BGM is so cursed, lol. This girl cracks me up.

>> No.14334349

>>14334263
How the mighty has fallen

>> No.14334369

>>14334263
What's with this many JK streams though?

>> No.14334374

Since we are at the dawn of English vtubing...again. What was your most memorable moment for this second golden age? Do you ever see it go back to such height again?

>> No.14334382

>>14334349
she brought on herself

>> No.14334383

>>14334263
this stream is so SOVL

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>>14334383
Haachama is ultimate SOVL and she makes brain rotted numberfags everywhere seethe. She has the power to become the most popular member of Hololive whenever she wants. This was seen during the schizo arc when she was out pacing Gura in subs and the Hololive official channel in views. She just chooses not too and would rather fuck around. However, there will be a time, when we least expect it, that she will decide to become the most popular Holo again, then she will fade away, and the cycle will repeat. She is wonderful.

>> No.14334592

>>14334263
>en-tier numbers
she really is en gen 0...

>> No.14334619

So Pekora doing a shill stream for Another Eden today. The first of 7 holos to stream it this week. How much did Another Eden pay for this?
But then again, they just announced a crossover with Square so that might be the reason.

>> No.14334633

>>14334524
she enjoys reading chat very much, too many viewers would hinder that so she sheds her viewers a lot of times.
she knew what it felt like to be on top but didn't like it.
one of the biggest cases of her absolutely not giving any shits about numbers is her birthday stream not too long ago

>> No.14334690

>>14334619
Expect another retard that will doompost about pekora's median.

>> No.14334751

>>14334690
Expect that guy to not know what median means too kek

>> No.14334774

>>14334751
He would have to not know what a median is to doompost it obviously

>> No.14334779

https://youtu.be/N029UUlH1Dc
so, is no one going to talk about suisei's phony? the growth is actually insane if you think about it

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New crane game campaign. They literally had to drag Ayame for this huh

>> No.14334849

>>14334815
Wow, that crane game must be a big deal if Ayame was willing to leave the glory holes.

>> No.14334861

>>14334779
this thread mostly doesnt give a shit about song numbers that arent calligura king / reflect tier

her shoujorei is 5k away from 3m btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9tsfkdgByA

>> No.14334873

>>14334779
not as fast as chima's though, right?

>> No.14334876

>>14334779
guilty, been repeating it since it premiered

>> No.14334892

>>14334524
>>14334633
I think once the collab ban has ended for Gen 6 we might be getting something big from Haachama. This might be the start of a new "most powerful Hololive member" arc as you stated. She has been slow burning some sort of rivalry with Gen 6 for a while now. Of course, this is Haachama so nothing might come of it but that is part of the fun of Haachama isn't it?

>> No.14334936

>>14334892
She also jumped on the HoloEN train which did nothing in the long run. So I doubt it.

>> No.14334961

>>14334779
139k-140k views per day for the past week
But 150k views today

>> No.14334984

>>14334779
2.6 million in 2 weeks is good but not worthy of being discussed here. We have seen much bigger numbers and growth.

>> No.14334993

>>14332563
numbahs babyyyyyyyyy
reminds me of that median retard from yesterday

>> No.14334994

>>14334751
>>14334690
It's true tho.
This is her third sub30k stream and the month is just beginning.

Her median will plummet if she keeps doing these shill streams

>> No.14334999

>>14334524
>>14334633

We will have to wait at least 2 years for that to happen tho, consider she's in college

>> No.14335034

>>14334936
there was no response from EN2, rolling down and playing did turned off haachama probably.
I'd usually call what I read above as cope but only a retard would, if you really want to analyze her behavior, all signs lead to the fact that she doesn't want nor care for getting big numbers anymore
there might be something bigger from Gen6 since it's easier for her in japanese given how different her nip raps are to her eigo ones but it's a gamble depending on how haachama feels

>> No.14335038

>>14334815
Will the empress herself stream it tho ...

>> No.14335040

Mean with highest and lowest values removed is superior to median, change my mind

>> No.14335047

>>14329113
Gura's average is more like 5-8k

>> No.14335081

Comparing both Cover and Anykara's speakerdeck presentation, is Anykara losing grasp of investors?

>> No.14335089

>>14334984
the record this cover is trying to beat is Chima's. what are the odds of this beating her's?

>> No.14335143

>>14334861
I mean, it's moreso we save it for the weekends when the Hololive cover ranking is out, since imo checking in on then daily is a bit much and people are also lazy.

>> No.14335178

>>14335089
>2.5M in 12 days
>7M in 3 months
Suisei's phony could get 7.5M before two months

>> No.14335180

>>14334815
Ayame always participate in projects and collab like this. It's the streaming part that she hates, at least until rent is due again or there's a new LV bag that she wants.

>> No.14335204

>>14335089
Its inevitable that it will. Nobody cares about pathetic Nijikeks so the Hololive version will pass it pretty quickly as people will actually listen to that version.

>> No.14335215

Chama peaked at 8k

>> No.14335234

Why are you obsessed with numbers

>> No.14335260

>>14335089
The only thing that matter to me is that Suisei's Phony has already passed the recent Reddit Duck cover song and Reddit Duck even had a collab buff with her artist. Really sad performance from Reddit Duck.

>> No.14335266

Why are you in this thread

>> No.14335282

>>14331448
>Coco was the first one to do skits
here's your (you); nip members do plenty of "innovative" streams, too, it's just usually a different sort of humor.

>> No.14335283
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14335283

Chaamers, what went wrong...

>> No.14335285

>>14335234
they kept hearing the fucking numbers

>> No.14335329

>>14331677
I think it's because she is playing a Activision Blizzard game and ATM they don't have good rep so people are probly boycotting it.

>> No.14335346
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14335346

BALLS

>> No.14335370

>>14335283
Why are you complaining, she beat twaps apex. Rejoice.

>> No.14335380

>>14335283
she's got RAPCHAMA contest this sunday

>> No.14335384
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14335384

I don't really care about numbers, but I do enjoy the Football Manager aspect of this thread.

>> No.14335416

>>14335215
would've those numbers doubled had shemade this similar to mori's totsu jk?

>> No.14335433

So far only these two overlapping the costume reveal later
https://youtu.be/61iwG_iYS6o
https://youtu.be/93LbxPb2OrI

>> No.14335462

>>14335433
Disrespectful

>> No.14335475

>Suisei's Phony has already passed the recent Reddit Duck cover song
>recent
Subaru has 1 maybe two if you count the shortened version covers and they're both more than a year ago. Is that what mental illness looks like?

>> No.14335497

>>14335433
pekora shachouuuuuuuuu

>> No.14335503

>>14335384
I ... What .. ?

>> No.14335504
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14335504

>>14335433
>Ina
????

>> No.14335509

>>14335433
Everyone streams over outfits these days, anyway its to be expected. Different branches.

>> No.14335510

>>14335475
He meant the Adrenaline cover with Ui. It's on Ui's channel.
Both of them aren't known for their singing.

>> No.14335516

>>14335433
But where the hell is HoloID when you need them.

>> No.14335523

>>14335283
curses from changing time slot for reddit shitpost review..

>> No.14335541

>>14335504
the schedule parses the description for links to other holos as a way of guessing collab/s or its members
The thumbnail was made by Ina so yamada put her channel as the link for some reason, so the schedule thought it's a collab between yamada and ina

>> No.14335544

>>14335510
I don't know what he counts as recent but that was three months ago. To me, recent is within a month.

>> No.14335552

>>14335504
Inart

>> No.14335554

Welp, the costume reveal will never reach 30k then. That's kinda sad.

>> No.14335561

I think the Reddit Duck schizo is charming. He never insults the talent directly like a lot of other schizos do and his comments are kind of funny.

>> No.14335565

>>14335544
Doesn't matter anyway. Imagine comparing Subaru to fucking Suisei.
Reeks of desperation.

>> No.14335568

>>14335541
>>14335552
I see, thanks!

>> No.14335570

>>14335561
Why would anyone hate Subaru of all people

>> No.14335604

>>14335570
ask 35piss

>> No.14335612

>>14335570
It started when someone compared Miko and Subaru recent numbers. So chances are he is a 35p or just a nijinigger

>> No.14335614

>>14329996
Replies to this post surprised me a bit but same. I'm not a burger and not really knowledgeable about pop music so a lot of songs girls like Ame sing in their unarchived karaoke aren't familiar to me. The only one whose song selection was somewhat close was Fauna. Vocaloid, anisongs and jpop, on the other hand, are something I'll always prefer to listen to so it doesn't bother me even if the JP repertoire of chuubas I watch gets a bit repetitive.

>> No.14335628

>>14335570
schizos being schizos, subaru's literally one of the most inoffensive holos. sora-tier

>> No.14335640

>>14335433
Good thing gen 5 is and always will be an unpopular gen and no amount of overlapping by them will steal any viewers away from EN.

>> No.14335656

>>14335561
>charming
His points are terrible and he can't nitpick for shit. Not to mention Miko uses Leddit way more than Subaru.

>> No.14335682

>>14335561
>>14335570
>>14335604

Funny thing is Subaru herself never goes on Reddit
Also, need I remind you someone tried to shit on Sora on /#/ thread once?

>> No.14335700

>>14335614
Oh, don't get me wrong, I love Vocaloid music but I also loved the variety that unarchived karaoke brought. Would suck to see it gone.

>> No.14335805
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14335805

when did Lui change her shorts to english? also they have subs now

>> No.14335839

>>14335805
Wonderful move

>> No.14335861

>>14330556
She just had a single released with TAKU INOUE. There is stuff she is doing behind the scenes to produce music. Maybe not "idol" but still lots of performing and reciting

>> No.14335870

>>14335805
You do know YT lets you set up different titles for different languages, right?

>> No.14335872

>>14335805
>added subs
Good thing holoX manager is competent.

>> No.14335917

>>14329374
That's the most sad news of month

>> No.14335927

>>14332538
You are thinking of it the wrong way retard. Kronii got invited it isn't even a hijack. Regardless, Kronii is declining

>> No.14335929

They can just sing vidya game music?

>> No.14335935

>>14335870
yes but I remember first ones are in jap with no subs. This is a smart move for maximum numbers

>> No.14335959

>>14332224
>>14332807
Gura has said it herself that she doesn't like playing Minecraft unless it's in a collab or just something simple like gathering mats to build. Every time she stream and see another member either in the game or in chat she begs them to join her. She did it with Ame during the Gawr Gura Demolition Derby Inc. Ame just popped into her stream just to say hi and Gura guilt-tripped her into doing a on-the-spot collab.
Upset me because Gura had just come back after going MIA for a few days (with little to no warning) and decided she rather chat with Ame then chat which hurt my little shrimp heart but I still watched anyway because even if the does something bad I can't hate her. She's cute.

>> No.14336012

>>14331911
Shitting on EN doesn't make you a last samurai, but saying that EN needs to get fired because they only get 5k or the half dozen retarded takes the spout is, the same way that shitting on Towa's numbers doesn't make you a nijinigger but bringing up dead cat bounce or the varrous other mental gymnastics they use to convince themselves that Hololive is on it's last legs does.

>> No.14336026

>>14335959
I mean she's not wrong, I've burned out myself on solo MC years ago, now I only play online from time to time. It's just boring.

>> No.14336029

Holy fuck look at all the streams overlapping with Gozaru
She will get less than Koyori for sure
The first half will be drawing too which isn't very exciting for most people

>> No.14336034

>>14335959
EN3 better have ambitious people who can also tard wrangle.

>> No.14336094

>>14336029
The senpais did it again

>> No.14336106

>>14335959
not really, her last memeber stream she said she wantedto do another chill christmas MC, and not just the collab but the streams she did before.

>> No.14336120

>>14333921
are you mentally small

>> No.14336129

>>14336094
I just check and it seem today we get PekoMiko sandwiching Iroha
Pretty cool

>> No.14336154

>>14336094
FUBUKIIIII

>> No.14336158

>>14334993
Look median just sounds like it means the least number okay?

>> No.14336189

Will Miko get another sub 20k stream?

>> No.14336200

>>14335433
Laplus ordered us on twitter to be there for her so I will. Sorry Mori

>> No.14336211

>>14336189
Does she have another extreme overlapping again?

>> No.14336233

>roboco with 4k
choco will probably get also 4k
Aki and mel shouldmove to this slot imo
hard to compete with jp prime time.
Also Bae is having a pokemon stream in 10 min. Curious on how it will do, she hasnt done a stream on jp time ina while

>> No.14336249

https://i.miss.irys.moe/

>> No.14336254

>>14336158
Median is that area between the roads on the highway, sometimes with a barrier. You know, IN THE MIDDLE of the highway.

>> No.14336268

>>14335561
Charming my ass, his points are absolute bullshit and when he does bring up numbers it's cherrypicked to the point of absolute uselessness. It's on the same level as the selennigger regarding people who really shouldn't be in the numbers thread but we have to suffer their presence anyway

>> No.14336270

https://youtu.be/PqTA58UkGkA?t=378
waiting for prime time to start. watch this and understand what goes through Yagoo's mind during the scouting process.

>> No.14336279

>>14336189
interaction with choco might buff her a little bit

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>>14335805
>nice English Lui-nee!!

>> No.14336314

>>14336189
She isn't sharing the slot with Pekora and Subaru and other heavyweights this time, so she will be fine.

>> No.14336366

>>14335805
She is considerate, and in her recent vid she tells people to tweet about her more. She has to live up to being numbers gen after all

>> No.14336390

>>14336268
I agree he is an idiot. I was simply pointing out that he doesn't insult Subaru directly. Look at the Council schizo who has called the girls whores and sluts and lazy bitches. That guy is an asshole.

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>>14336270
Man I'm so glad this video got preserved for posterity
Meanwhile, Bora's channel...

>> No.14336461

>>14336302
Why are we using Orca to shitpost now?

>> No.14336472

>>14336390
It's because his idea of an insult is "Reddit duck". When Subaru doesn't use Reddit nor is in actuality a duck.
It's completely inoffensive to others which explains the so called charm I guess.
>>14336461
How new?

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14336490

>now

>> No.14336535

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnjt-e3W08Y
Yamada pulling out all stops on the content train

>> No.14336590
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14336590

>>14336154
It's just a prank bro
But anyway these are Iroha opponent today + Miko probably

>> No.14336592

>>14336302
I melt everytime she says "pwease subscwibe". Its so cute!!

>> No.14336595

Baelz pulling NijiEN numbers. Remember when people thought she'd be the star of Council?

>> No.14336613

>>14336595
Still is. Council is just that bad though.

>> No.14336617

>>14336595
>started 3 minutes ago
Chill cherrypicking nigger

>> No.14336624

>>14336595
>pulling NijiEN numbers
3 digits!?

>> No.14336638

Why do Kanata's karaokes often get mid tier number (10-13k, even lower than her average number (12-15k) if streamed on this specific time of day? It's really weird cuz kanata is definitely one of the singers in hololive. Anyway my guess for this stream is 13k peak

>> No.14336643

>>14333095
they are on your screen.

>> No.14336646

>Miko pulling council numbers on MC
Reclined harder than haachama imo

>> No.14336676

>>14336454
to be fair, Coco's graduation is nothing like we've ever seen before. the whole month was basically dedicated to her and she might be the very few that get to leave with honor and mass praises all around. I think that's why Kson is still on good terms with Cover and the possibility of one day returning is not far-fetched. didn't they also mention that Coco might make appearances if they have a really major event?

>> No.14336687

>>14336535
i dont get it

>> No.14336691

Numbers are low across the board. Youtube fucked with the CCV calculation again. Just before Moris costume debut, hell yeah

>> No.14336694

>>14336646
What? Miko is at 7.4k, that's much better than what most councils can do nowadays, Bae is at 1.6k for example.

>> No.14336701

>>14336472
No, that one's ideal of insult is "Reddit"

>> No.14336716

>>14336646
wait for 30 min peak before we start baiting the schizo anon.

>> No.14336720

>>14336676
I actually missed out on the entire Coco career so I wasn't able to see for myself what make her such an iconic figure

>> No.14336723

>>14336638
13 is a reasonable reagrding why she sint more popular wo knows, but she is in a far better position than last year.

Baelz will get 2k soon i wonder if 5k is possible on this slot.

>> No.14336743

>>14336646
>>14336595
bait so good people got to use it twice!

>> No.14336750

>>14336646
Miko is at 12k 10 minutes in. Well on her way to over 20k. Where is your Reddit Duck now?

>> No.14336766

>>14336691
>Youtube fucked with the CCV calculation again
I doubt
>Choco is ahead of her median
>Roboco is ahead of her median
>Haachama is in her November median
>Kanata is in her usual singing stream numbers
>Miko is in the direction of meeting her median

>> No.14336768

>>14336638
She doesn't have enough popularity (like Marine or Pekora) nor does she have enough singing skill to draw viewers to her

>> No.14336795

>>14336691
Preemptive cope eh

>> No.14336807

https://twitter.com/spicytails/status/1468587463136649220
https://twitter.com/spicytails/status/1468587463136649220
https://twitter.com/spicytails/status/1468587463136649220

>> No.14336814

when's chloes and samurais monetization stream?

>> No.14336823
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>>14336638
>Why do Kanata's karaokes often get mid tier number
Her past three karaokes failed to beat 10k

>> No.14336885

It is weird how people use Holo EN numbers as an insult

>> No.14336906

>>14336743
It's a golden ratio kind of thing where you find Niji at the end of it

>> No.14336912

>>14336885
Mixture of numberrot and EN schizophrenia

>> No.14336923

>>14336885
anon you have people in this thread flat out trying to claim that gura gets 5k for her streams, we've gone full retard

>> No.14337026

>>14336595
Her numbers are the same. So much for incels raging at her playing with a Holostar.
>>14336592
Its too desperate/tryhard
>>14336691
Bunch of streams occuring during her costume debut anyway

>> No.14337032

>>14336814
Samurai in about 30min, Orca tomorrow JST night

>> No.14337040

>>14330662
As far as I remember, most were skeptical at first. I thought the same way then, that EN will be cringey anime dub level. Then after debuts people actually liked at least some of them, their popularity grew rapidly, tons of tourists started visiting /jp/, /vt/ was created etc.
In retrospective I'm glad that I didn't reject them completely, but I mostly returned to JPs now. Watch IRyS and Ina occasionally, still membered to Ame but stopped enjoying her content long ago, watch Fauna once in a blue moon, that's it. I'm really enjoying Gen 6 so far, Laplus monetization stream was more emotional to me than everything Council did since coming into existence. Wish the EN branch all the best but I'm really not getting my hopes up.
>>14331577
Lamy is my oshi, I understand that her appeal seems boring to many so I'm fine with her subpar views and subs. But I felt like she's inclined just a bit recently, doing above 10k quite often. Maybe it's just an overall buff because of holoX streams.
>>14331963
Lamy is more of a dork now but she used to be extremely polite when she debuted. She kept apologizing for messing things up and genuinely trying her hardest. In my opinion it's a combination of saviourfag factor (not as in financial sense, but as in "This girl is bad at games and singing, but she is really really cute, loves her senpais and cares about her viewers a lot, I should support her") + yamato nadeshiko (she has a fuckton of traditional skills like tea ceremony or ikebana, she's very girly, grew up in kinda sheltered environment, was very meek at first) + wife experience (her morning streams were a novelty, even though they still were a bit late because at 9 am many people are already at work. But she still stated that her main goal is to provide healing experience to people tired from their daily life obligations). So she really didn't do much at first, didn't specifically bait gachikois, just started her monetization stream and got showered in SCs nonstop.
>>14335433
Cunny...
>>14335700
Yeah variety is good. There is plenty of variety to have with JP only songs though. Holos song selection is just a bit stale, they could learn from some 2views. For example, Shirane Yuki from React does utawaku very often and they are all kino because she picks a lot of obscure vocaloid songs, isn't even always able to pull them off but variety of her tastes is amazing.
>>14336590
Daisenpai... Why... I'd watch your utawaku any time but why now...
>>14336638
Last time I checked it felt like her powerlevel dropped significantly, assumed it was because of her ear disease, but maybe I just picked a bad time.

>> No.14337067

what the hell

>> No.14337069

>>14330751
Cover needs those Fromsoft permissions. C'mon Aqua ELDEN RING

>> No.14337091

In the Coco interview with Yagoo he admits that he makes less than Coco. Is it rare that the CEO of the company makes less money than the talents?

>> No.14337108

>>14336646
20k for Miko. I expect naked dogeza from you faggot.

>> No.14337110

>>14337040
Lamy was a motherly/kind type early on, which suited the "family" dynamic of NePoLaBo. Then as time went on, she became a "sharp woman" as JPs say. Its different but still good. NePoLaBo is more like four sisters now imo.

>> No.14337111

Bae still showing some life signs on this timeslot.
3k and sitll slowly rising.

Roboco and choco declining as more jp start.
Miko18k and kanata 10k get.
>>14337091
they are contactros and get a share of the merchandise. Also rememeber that yagoo cut his salary back on the taiwan yab.

>> No.14337130

>>14336885
They have dropped a lot so it's not a surprise

>> No.14337140

>>14337091
Could be a lie, could be because vtubers in general are still a fresh industry so corpos haven't fully figured shit out.

>> No.14337142

>>14336885
It's hard not to, JP is doing dozen of 20k plus streams every day and the only one that can get close to that in EN is Gura and she has a hard time going past 30k. Seriously, I don't remember when was the last time an EN had a gold or even a bronze.

>> No.14337174

>>14337091
It's not uncommon in the "celebrity" industry. It's like actors who makes millions more than directors.

>> No.14337182

>>14337091
He took a 50% pay cut because of the Capcom yabe and the chinkout

>> No.14337186

>>14337142
Reminds me of that one time when Gura's collab managed to get 30k but failed to get the gold so some schizo started grudgeposting the streams that beat it by comparing their vod views every thread.

>> No.14337190

>>14337108
first 20k for the day, seems like a weak day so far
any big plans for nijis? I don't see anything over 10k yet

>> No.14337203

>>14337190
Mario Kart draft?

>> No.14337206

>https://twitter.com/rpg_AE/status/1468890703002742790
>https://another-eden.jp/
is this the mobile game IRyS was referring too earlier?

>> No.14337238

This is how I imagine the council schizo acts when he sees a council member get good numbers like the 18k Mumei got yesterday.

https://twitter.com/twitkocheng/status/1468867554957352961

>> No.14337253

When was the last time an EN got a gold?

>> No.14337258

14337238
>18k
>good

>> No.14337272

>>14337203
that's tomorrow, it's still the 9th right now
>>14337174
>>14337182
that interview actually provided a lot of good insights on how he runs Cover.

>> No.14337276

>>14337258
meant for >>14337238

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