/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Just learn japanese. You're not a low-motivation brainlet, are you?

>>1419026
ホモ

>>1419148
Of course I am, where do you think you are?

>>1419174
[EN] The holostars

>>1419174
シットポースター

>>1419148
What’s a good free one

>>1419307
This is the age of information. If you aren't motivated enough to find your own learning materials, particularly on a website that regularly mentions and posts them, you aren't motivated enough to actually use them to any degree of success.
Take your (you) and reflect on life having no shortcuts.

>>1419026
[EN]: *vtuber noises*

>>1419483
>t. I don't actually know, I'm just a shitposting faggot

>not blocking all chatlators
Shiggy diggy.

>>1419026
For something like this though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTxzo6uMg4A

No foreign sexy guy without Japanese fluency would have understood this

>>1419148
Yeah I had to study Spanish in high school and German in college and never speak either. I shan't be fooled thrice. I don't even watch anime anymore.

>>1419638
>implying chatlators are even relevant in an age of lightspeed chats

>>1419707
Good thing I watch smaller chuubas.

>>1419707
Chat filter is your friend.

>>1419026
I hate it when other people don't do free work for me

>>1419801
More like I hate it when people do shitty work under the guise of free work and mislead others. I'm fluent in Japanese so I don't really care.

>>1419148
Fuck learning Japanese, I wanna learn how to gain (and consistently maintain) motivation.
There are days where I can study Japanese from morning to night, but most of my days I feel too exhausted for it and just end up watching chubas

>>1421153
As long as you're watching Japanese ones, what you're doing is actually an essential part of Japanese study so keep up the good work.

>>1421153
Watching chuubas is studying

>>1421153
>There are days where I can study Japanese from morning to night
How do people like this even exist

>>1421234
Stop posting and go to bed wagie, you have to be up for your shift at 6am tomorrow.

someone posted (EN) Praise allah yesterday in Kiara's stream

I fucking died

>>1421307
No, I have to do my dailies in my video games. How do I have time to study Japanese?

>>1419307
I'm learning with the Marugoto book series. It's suitable for learning on your own and has a lot of audio files and additional content you can access for free on their website.

>>1421234
Ever had those days where you spent all your free time on 4chan? It's like that but with Japanese study.

>>1419026
It's so wierd, I can kind of recognize what they are saying but I can't understand it after all.

>>1421423
Marugoto is pretty good, my school uses it.

>>1421550
I was the same, you can sort of feel what they're saying but when you try to formulate the meaning in English you can't. It's like being able to make out what a blurry image is of if you're looking at the thumbnail but as soon as you open it it just looks like a mess of colours. You should do 30 mins of study a day and you'll quickly understand a lot within a couple of months.

>>1421153
The secret is to not rely on motivation and instead be disciplined. Just do your fucking reps, ideally at the same time every day for the same duration every day. Then force yourself to do them even when you don't want to. Eventually reps will become a habit and you'll be on the road to inevitable success.

>>1421913
>The secret is to not rely on motivation and instead be disciplined
Not him but that's a brain tickler. I struggle with motivation for stuff sometimes. This is worth noting.

>>1421862
Yeah I need to do that.

[EN]: CHING CHONG NIP NONG

>>1422492
I think if someone did this they'd actually get banned.

>>1419307
the mega learning pack has been up on nyaa for years negro

>>1419652

>>1419148
Is there a way to learn to speak japanese without learning to read japanese?

>>1422700
by speaking it

>>1422700
just do both retard
>>1422695
hella cringe, EOPs really are a plague

>>1421913
I thought motivation and discipline go hand by hand ?

>>1422695
Guarantee its somebody in bachelors social sciences or some other easy af meme program

>>1423119
motivation = being excited to do soemthing
discipline = doing something even if youre not excited to do it
discipline is the stronger productivity trait and is possible to train

>>1423134
I often regret not getting my degree in journalism. Then I could be out there spreading facts instead of being on this piece of shit website.

>>1422695
Always the excuses

>>1423171
How do you gain or train discipline? Any tips?
I've tried the classic "lol bro just do the same thing every day until it becomes a habit", it ain't that effective for me though

>>1422695
>barren pirate I'm a lazy fuck who has enough time to watch your content but not enough to learn your language let's fucking gooooo

>>1423301
Seconding this. I'd like some tips on maintaining discipline.

>>1423301
Honestly I dont know how else to do it, sorry. For most people their parents instill it into them while growing up.

>>1423393
Unrelated, but why do people who play gacha games say the word content so much? I've been noticing this lately.

>>1423440
I guess this is why my sense of discipline is so fucking warped. My parents were the most strict motherfuckers until I was like 11 years old or so and after that, they just straight up didn't care. No discipline whatsoever anymore

>>1423470
Bitching about the lack/difficulty/f2p vs whales/etc.

>>1419307
search namasensei on youtube

>>1421153
>most of my days I feel too exhausted for it and just end up watching chubas
there's your problem.
you need to get a consistent sleep schedule and possibly better self control

>>1422700
just learn how to read, it's surprisingly easy and writing, reading things in kana, kanji is very fun

>>1423492
Yeah I get you, my parents were similar. Its absolutely demoralizing to realise how damaged you are simply because the first 15 or so years of your life was managed by equally damaged people. That was what helped me train discipline, the fear of failing for my future kids. But it was pretty much forcing myself to do simple life things that other people around me did as easily as they breathed.

>>1423600
Kanji will never be fun, it's the modern day equivalent of caveman drawings.

>>1423950
by any chance, are you from america?

>>1423967
You betcha, anon.

>>1423950
I bet cavemen had fun drawing.

>>1423171
Deprive yourself of pleasure for two weeks or so. I'm not some no-fap cultist, but spend two weeks without flooding your brain with a constant stream of dopamine from porn, youtube, videogames, etc. Do a variety of mundane yet productive things for a couple of weeks and you'll come to appreciate the things you enjoy more. This in itself will build discipline and will help you apply that experience to things you actually want to do/learn.

>>1423600
I genuinely don't understand the point of kanji from what I've learned of Japanese. Hiragana and katakana take way less time to write and are way easier to memorize. I feel like the only reason people use it is because Japanese doesn't put spaces between words. If there's any other reason for it I'd be open to elucidation.

>>1419513
I was watching Choco playing Minecraft clearing out an area while going "poi poi poi" and suddenly the chat had a lot more "EN translators" than usual.

>>1419638
Problem is, even if you block them, it doesn't stop it from displaying on the screen when the vtuber has their chat on the screen.

>>1424544
>I feel like the only reason people use it is because Japanese doesn't put spaces between words
that definitely can be one of the reasons.
another reason would be that kanji is faster to read if you can recognize it and it (usually) takes up less space compared to kana .
plus there's a lot of words in japanese that sound the same but have different meanings, so if you were to write all sentences only in kana it could sometimes get confusing, sure you could be able to tell things apart based on the context of the sentence but that can take time and sometimes that may not be possible, kanji can help clear out that kind of confusion.

>>1424544
Same reasons English spelling reforms will never go through, everyone is used to it and everything is already written in it so there'd be a massive cultural break where children couldn't read anything written before the time of the reform that wasn't translated.
>>1425135
>another reason would be that kanji is faster to read if you can recognize it
This isn't really a reason, the same thing happens within English, you recognise words as a whole rather than character by character

>>1425343
>This isn't really a reason, the same thing happens within English, you recognise words as a whole rather than character by character
shit, you're right, i didn't realise that. thanks for the information anon.

>>1419026
Where did this gif came from?

>>1430638
I have wondered that myself.

>>1419148
Im not learning a low tier language

>>1423301
>lol bro just do the same thing every day until it becomes a habit
never gonna make it
instilling habits and routine in yourself is unironically the secret to life. read atomic habits if you want to educate yourself

>>1423301
>How do you gain or train discipline? Any tips?
Snort Ritalin. It is like powdered motivation.

>>1419307
explore 4chans board, notice /int/, they have a language learning general with a huge fuckload of resources for ANY language, especially japanese given where we are here.

also spoonfeed this thing https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

>>1419652
Marin's Japanese is on the easy side because she is anything but monotone, you can get a lot from her tone alone. If you are still a bit slow understanding, watch her archives instead and do it in your pace.

>>1421153
take it from a dude with N2 who learned in University 10 years ago, the abnormal amount of anime I watched made my ready-vocabulary expand to retarded degrees netting me straight As.

>>1438073
This is true, but keep in mind that it's true because you paid attention to what you were hearing and that there are a lot of brainlets out there for whom it goes in one ear and out the other.

>>1438120
I can't fathom a scenario where I WANT to learn Japanese and then not ACTIVELY LISTEN to japanese content i mean shit even for a brainlet that HAS to be a low point right?

>>1419307
If you're not a manga/anime fan, start with Duolingo and suppliment it with your own learning. If you're still memorising kana, Duolingo on mobile has an okay flash card system, but you'll definitely need an Anki deck (Anki is a free flashcard program).

After you reach the end of the duolingo JP tree, or before that if you feel it's no longer providing value, start consuming other media in Japanese and find Japanese speaking pen pals. (This can be easily done on leddit)

When you're comfortable enough, change your phone/PC language to Japanese, or play Vidya in Japanese, and stay immersed in the language to retain your knowledge of Japanese.

>>1423950

>>1423950
It's fun after you learn it and can laugh at all the people who seethe about it

>>1438543
It also gives you a leg up on learning Chinese, which is probably one of the most useful languages in the world to know.

>>1442658
Don't learn chinese.

>>1419228
This, right here, was a truly underrated post.

>>1419652
i have a baboon's japanese fluency but i got the gist of it, i was doing something else so all i thought about it was what she looked like with eczema and how unfuckable that would make her look

>>1419652
I'm barely fluent and I got that. Senchou doesn't talk as fast as you think she does.

>>1421913
Tfw no motivation to increase my discipline, and I'm not disciplined enough to do it without motivation.

>>1451974
>no motivation
what about your oshi?

>>1419026
Today's stream.

>>1442871
Too late gweilo.

>>1419026