/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I think it comes with the territory. After a while you turn prison gay.

>>1422943
Their target audience.
And I doubt that the gorilla or the vampire pretend to be lesbians.

>>1422943
better a lesbian than a faggot like (You)

>>1422943
Combination of yurifag bucks and purityfags preventing them from interacting with men.

Only hololive

>>1422966
>the vampire pretend to be lesbians.
Mel?
With who?

>>1422966
There's no such thing as lesbians, it's usually just them avoiding the D because of trauma/mental illness.
Every lesbo I've met has confessed to wanting/taking dick.

>>1422943
Even the men?

>>1423589
every vtuber that matters*

>>1422943
>pretend

>>1423672
Read
>>1423105

>>1423105
This

Kanatan is implied to be NB
not a rrat

>>1423013
Choco, are you really this new?

>>1422943
pretend?

>>1424060
nut butter?

>>1422943
all girls are at least a little gay.

>>1423105
Girls can have very intimate friendships, but lesbianism doesn't work. There's a reason fags are sex fiends but dyke sex life falls off a cliff and the domestic abuse rate is absurdly high.

>>1422943
same reason insathots/onlyfans whores dont post pictures with their boyfriends

It's the same reason why monasteries and nun convents have a stereotype of being gay/lesbo. When you're forced to interact with only males/females all of that horny energy has to go somewhere

>>1424251
i mean the same is true for homos, they usually have incredibly dysfunctional relationships.
the difference is homos have a lot of short dysfunctional relationships, lesbians have a few very long ones.

They pretend to be STRAIGHT they're all actually lesbians

>>1424514
considering she went to catholic school I 100% believe she's into it.

>>1424514
nah, by the end of the day, nothing can be compared to the D

>>1424560
The dick yes, but not the male, a dildo is fine for Marine that SLUT (for younger girls)

>>1424098
Anon, you don't have to be new to not know much about one of the least watched Holos.

>>1422943
anon, all women are lesbian

>>1424403
It's almost like they're mentally ill. Just like the yurifags and fujos who subsist off of hilariously inaccurate fantasies about homo relationships.

>>1424637
god the thought of that hag fooling around with a girl who was literally barely legal makes my dick diamond hard

>>1424715
she wasn't fooling around, it was all shion.
marin is a certified bottom, the best she can do is try and make you molest her.

>>1423105
this is bullshit incel cope

>>1424637
anon, the dildo is limited and temporary

>>1425009
>getting raped by an only just legal loli
Holy fuck that's even better

>>1422943
>pretend

>>1424098
Choco isn’t a vampire, she’s a succubus
Mel is the vampire

>>1425087
women reported feel better with dildo and vibrators than with the real thing

>>1422943
Merchandising

well, reine is a certified gay, so...

>>1425081
>t. has never ruined a dyke relationship by being the guy one of them thinks won't blab about dicking her down

>>1425130
Read the original comment again
>With who

>>1425150
isn't that literally a death sentence in Indonesia?

>>1425185
Sure thing virgin

>>1425304
Not for women

>>1425311
Why do /u/fags get so mad when confronted with reality?
And why do they talk like twitter radfems?

>>1425708
eternally seething they will never be men

>>1425150
She’s also fat

>>1424167
Nice butt!

>>1422943
Because being a dyke sells.

>>1425101
Countless moments have had the chubbas implying shion is a cutie pie irl (number one pic of who I want to be mother of amongst chubbas). Besides her and aqua (who may just be cute because of smallness and not physical attractive) who else in HL is canon cute irl?

>>1422943
Money

>>1422943
>Why does every Vtuber pretend to be a lesbian?
To deter or at least limit the amount of simping

>>1423105
Bisexual women will call themselves lesbians because it is a more unique label, and because if they identify as bi people think they aren't really capable of loving women and are just thots. Similar to how straight women ruined the bisexual label by calling themselves that for attention. This leaves TRUE AND HONEST lesbians out to dry.

>>1427320
Miko finds pekora cute irl, that may not mean much though since miko obviously was/is infatuated with her.

Haachama is literal jk normie tier cuteness

I dont remember who (maybe Aqua?) Said she was surprised how attractive Marine irl. That may be because she was expecting a disgusting Fuji though.

I know Matsuri got cute after she lost a bunch of weight after school. At least if the leaked images hold up.

And korone is ok if you like past their prime emo chicks.

>>1424251
Lesbians are more likely to have been previously abused in straight relationships before coming out as lesbian, they are not very likely to be beaten by women.

Has Sora ever pretended to be gay? How about AZKi, Mio, or Aki?

>>1427521
Coco is alright, dat Aida cosplay was top notch.

>>1424251
There is no way lesbos have higher rates of abuse than hetero relationships actual rates of abuse. I always laugh as a straight guy when people post this.

>>1427320
This may come as a shock but they are all damn fine, even ignoring the fame factor. Ever wonder why there has never been an ugly chuuba roommate outrage?

>>1427831
Botan....

>>1427320
75% are Japanese girls so they take care of themselves and look amazing to most of us. Name a holo they're probably hot.

>>1427659
>The National Violence Against Women (NVAW) survey found that 21.5% of men and 35.4% of women reporting a history of cohabitation with a same-sex partner had experienced physical abuse in their lifetimes; the corresponding rates for men and women with a history of only opposite-sex cohabitation were 7.1% and 20.4%, respectively

Why people have strong opinions about things they do absolutely no research into I will never know

>>1428451
That proves the "women become lesbians because of trauma from men" theory if anything

>>1428451
Right, the abuse between two similar docile women is going to be the same as a woman and a man, when guys can pick up and throw women across rooms with little effort
Men and women are the same right? Lol
You're the one speaking about romantic relationships without ever have one. Cling to your statistics in a county where wives still tell people that black eyes from "falling."

>>1425304
Maybe they aren't that radical like those in middle east? cause you know they were once colonized by white people

>>1428911
Being colonized by white people makes things worse

>>1428859
ywnbaw

>>1429066
Ogey

>>1427521
Marine is actually one of the top tier beautiful hololgirls. You might argue where but she's in the 75 percentile and up.

>>1428845
The only thing it proves that same-sex partners have higher abuse rates. You're just conjecturing a theory you have from it.

>>1428859
>we'll they have higher rates but because it's between two women it's not real violence!
Yeah. I'll take your defensive backpedaling post as a concession. If you think women aren't capable of real violent domestic abuse because they're both "docile" then I guess domestic abuse from gay men doesn't count either.
Maybe just admit you're wrong instead of burying your head in the sand because your ego can't handle it.

>>1428451
Study from 2018
>>The National Violence Against Women (NVAW) survey found that 21.5% of men and 35.4% of women reporting a history of cohabitation with a same-sex partner had experienced physical abuse in their lifetimes; the corresponding rates for men and women with a history of only opposite-sex cohabitation were 7.1% and 20.4%, respectively
Study from 199843.8% of lesbian women and 61.1% of bisexual women have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner at some point in their lifetime, as opposed to 35% of heterosexual women.
26% of gay men and 37.3% of bisexual men have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime, in comparison to 29% of heterosexual men.
In a study of male same sex relationships, only 26% of men called the police for assistance after experiencing near-lethal violence.

>>1429124
Uh huh. Explain the absolute discrepancy between males experiencing physical violence and in homo relationships compared to hetero
Almost like if you're physically stronger than someone you're set up to easily abuse them in a relationship
Reading and misunderstanding shit online doesn't make you an expert on anything dude

>>1425892
I'm sorry your girlfriend hits you, hope you get the dicking you want Anon, I'm cheering for you.

>>1429184
>199843.8%

>>1429262
Actually I like it when she hits me but thank you for your concern

>>1428451
>The National Violence Against Women (NVAW) 1998
>Study from 2013
>43.8% of lesbian women and 61.1% of bisexual women have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner at some point in their lifetime, as opposed to 35% of heterosexual women.
26% of gay men and 37.3% of bisexual men have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime, in comparison to 29% of heterosexual men.
In a study of male same sex relationships, only 26% of men called the police for assistance after experiencing near-lethal violence.
>https://ncadv.org/blog/posts/domestic-violence-and-the-lgbtq-community

>Global estimates published by WHO indicate that about 1 in 3 (35%) of women worldwide have experienced either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or non-partner sexual violence in their lifetime. Most of this violence is intimate partner violence.Nov 29, 2017

>>1427831
Botan...

>>1429239
>Almost like if you're physically stronger than someone you're set up to easily abuse them in a relationship
Is that why gay men experience almost the same abuse rates that heterosexual women do? Or lesbians experience almost twice as much abuse as heterosexual women? According to you that's not "real" abuse though lmao

>>1429550
What are you even talking about? You're too invested in this to argue properly.

>>1424403

>Study from 2013
>43.8% of lesbian women and 61.1% of bisexual women have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner at some point in their lifetime, as opposed to 35% of heterosexual women.
>26% of gay men and 37.3% of bisexual men have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime, in comparison to 29% of heterosexual men.
In a study of male same sex relationships, only 26% of men called the police for assistance after experiencing near-lethal violence.
>https://ncadv.org/blog/posts/domestic-violence-and-the-lgbtq-community

>Global estimates published by WHO indicate that about 1 in 3 (35%) of women worldwide have experienced either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or non-partner sexual violence in their lifetime. Most of this violence is intimate partner violence.Nov 29, 2017

>>1427521
>>1427320
Rushia is probably the cutest 30+ year old woman I've ever seen.
Mel is quite cute, especially if you like thin girls. It's not at all surprising that her manager was obsessed with her if you know what she looks like. She could easily cosplay as her own character if she dyed her hair blonde and got some pads.
Miko is really cute, arguably even cuter than her character. If we're going only by appearance, she could very easily be an actual idol rather than a virtual one. I assume the reason she presumably never went that route is either because of her various health problems or because of how she's a big introvert.

If we expand this assessment to just one of general attractiveness vs. just cuteness, then:

Noel infamously has larger breasts than her character does, and they're 100% real. She could make an absolutely insane amount of money if she was willing to do porn, but she's not going to do that because she has worked smart and made herself rich without having to sell herself to the yakuza. Some people think she has a butterface, but I disagree.
Marine is pretty attractive. Although she auditioned for her role, she's like Noel in that her actual proportions are not that far removed from the character she plays, if you can believe it. Back when she was on NND, the guy who's the Japanese equivalent of Pewdiepie, per his own statements, apparently asked her on multiple occasions to go on a date with him, and she turned him down.
Coco is definitely attractive. She has tattoos and a tongue piercing though, which are pretty big minuses in my book.
Towa is very conventionally attractive.
Nene was a real idol before being a holo, and she has the great looks you would expect of someone with such a background. She's another person who could readily cosplay her own character as long as she had access to the appropriate costume pieces.

This list is not exhaustive but just some of the examples that came to mind. I personally was really surprised to learn how good a bunch of the Holos really are in terms of looks.

>>1428975
oops my mistake, by white people i mean european

>>1429100
You lack basic understanding of what statistics are. Read a book or two tranny

>>1425708
>>1425892
>>1428451
>>1424403

>Study from 2013
>43.8% of lesbian women and 61.1% of bisexual women have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner at some point in their lifetime, as opposed to 35% of heterosexual women.
>26% of gay men and 37.3% of bisexual men have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime, in comparison to 29% of heterosexual men.
>In a study of male same sex relationships, only 26% of men called the police for assistance after experiencing near-lethal violence.
>https://ncadv.org/blog/posts/domestic-violence-and-the-lgbtq-community

>Global estimates published by WHO indicate that about 1 in 3 (35%) of women worldwide have experienced either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or non-partner sexual violence in their lifetime. Most of this violence is intimate partner violence.Nov 29, 2017

>>1429641
I understand you're stupid anon but you LITEARALLY just said that the discrepancy of being victim of domestic abuse exists between hetero men and gay men because "if you're physically stronger than someone you're set up to easily abuse them in a relationship"
Then when I point out that lesbians have a higher rate of abuse than straight couples you aren't able to even comprehend the chain of logic. No wonder you don't do any research about your opinions.

>>1429854
Lesbians aren't physically stronger than their partner like heterosexual men are.
See? You're insane. What are you even going on about in the 2nd paragraph.>>1429854

>>1427320
Izuru

>>1427521
>At least if the leaked images hold up.
I mean she made a youtube channel two years after joining hololive. HMMM is it really roomate talk if the roomate comes after the character?

>>1430087
Yes, they aren't physically stronger, yet they still abuse their partners at higher rates than heterosexual men do. That's the point you retard. Being "physically stronger" has little to do with rates of abuse. If you think it doesn't count as "real abuse" because they aren't stronger than their partner or whatever than I don't know what to tell you.

>>1430309
read
>>1429798
>>43.8% of lesbian women and 61.1% of bisexual women have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner at some point in their lifetime, as opposed to 35% of heterosexual women
>only 26% of men called the police for assistance after experiencing near-lethal violence
This implies that in relationships with men and women or men and men, the abuse is less reported. Likely the reason being that the abused partner is scared of the repercussions of reporting on stronger man.

>>1430588
That's your own conjecture because you're working backwards from what you think the result should be. There's not enough information to say for sure that's the case.

>>1430776
Fair enough, but the same can be said for you going by which number is higher. The only thing you are proving is that you can count.

>43.8% of lesbian women and 61.1% of bisexual women have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner at some point in their lifetime, as opposed to 35% of heterosexual women.
Why is the bisexual women numbers statistically significant over 35% of heterosexual females? What statistical significance is there between 43% and 35%? Why are male involved abuse even more extreme "only 26% of men called the police for assistance after experiencing near-lethal violence" reported?

>>1423013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ4Qdp-LVdA

Oh i dunno

>>1428451
>Why people have strong opinions about things they do absolutely no research into I will never know
Almost anyone you think you're targeting with that statement either won't consider themselves the target of that statement, or consider your statement in good faith. Most people consider themselves sufficiently informed on strong opinions they genuinely believe.

The disconnect is your assumption that people share the same expectations or standards in research. In reality this is far from the case, even within a group of peers with similar stances.
For example, many people find the idea of leaning on academic sources as a major turn-off in an argument, if they don't outright call it out. If it is an opinion or fact worth considering, why does it depend so heavily on abstract methodology and standards irrelevant to the layperson in order to "prove" its point? Why does academia seem to utterly ignore the layperson's talking points, which are readily comprehensible and carry intuitive meaning behind them? And if their standards are meaningless to you, what value is there in poring over those citations you clutch like pearls?

It's not like most people are even going to argue against you at that point, because you're just going to pull up more sources or wring your hands on details and points which are completely detached from their view of things.
The person who is only convinced by hot takes still researched those takes, and they won't take you seriously if you just disregard them for cold takes you prefer.

>>1422943
In the thumbnail it looked like it had a massive beard.

>>1427521
>past their prime emo chicks.
God fucking bless

>>1422943
>Why does every Vtuber pretend to be a lesbian?
Us.

>>1422943
>Why do they all pretend to be gay
Actually from what I recall when it comes to known roommate shit. We know factually that a good number of the holo girls are either bi or lesbian. From memory I think the known list is Sakura, Coco, Kanata (Supposedly?) Marine, Korone/Okayu might be an actual thing (if the rrats are true), Mel, Flare and Noel are legit fucking to my knowledge, Ame I think said she was bi forever ago, Kiara is openly and aggressively gay, and I'm sure there are a few more rrats I don't remember. People like to say Gura is gay but we know legit nothing about her so who fucking knows.

Honestly it makes sense that a lot of the holo vtubers would be bi or gay, simply because a lot of them are awkward weirdo outcasts with social problems. I'd imagine in a nation that hates LGBT shit as much as Japan, being gay or bi probably has a high correlation towards being an outcast. So idk, I think there's some decent reason to believe not all of it is fake.

>>1427521
Coco must get a ton of pussy if she's lesbian. She's got that foreigner aspect to her while also being fully Japanese. She's got a tongue piercing and tats for fucks sake. That or she scares everyone off, I guess that's possible too.

>>1436223
>Wrote out all this yet forgot the single most verified lesbian out of the whole bunch
Matsuri is just straight up gay. She actually fell in love with Hoshikawa and made like a 9 minute video crying about it when Hoshikawa friendzoned her by stating she was straight.

*burn gachis' money on cute boy gacha live stream*

>>1422980
this.
>Ollie simping for every single female on Holostars, a-okay
>Ollie enjoying her time with Astel on Apex. FUCKING REEEEEEEE OLLIE STOP TALKING TO HIM

>>1422980
I'm sure this is part of it, but it probably helps that we know several of the hololive vtubers are are gay or bisexual. I mean Matsuri straight up wanted to fuck Hoshikawa and cried when she was told to fuck off.

>>1436460
Hololive***, forgive my brain fart

>>1436460
Didn't Ollie also outright say she can flirt with girls because no one will take it seriously?

>>1422943
All women are bi.

Real answer: being straight is a fucking sin apparently

>pretend

>>1438203
I was under the impression Ollie is just extremely bi. She has that same aggressively gay energy that Kiara has. The kind that comes off too strong to be faked.

>>1439087
We know Mori is straight. Like Mori is extra straight. Its part of the reason her pairing with Kiara doesn't work at all. The girl's too straight to even play along.

>>1439087
Real real answer:
- Many only give mild hints, genuine or otherwise, into their sexual preferences one way or another, especially if they're going for a polished persona. Most of Holo and Niji are like this, with some exceptions like Matsuri. Not even someone who is explicit and sexualizes themselves like Coco plays much into what she personally prefers which any seriousness.

- Some just don't bring it up at all. *crickets*

- Some play up their sexuality, which often involves pandering to certain orientations, fetishes, etc. Surprise fucking surprise, anons obsess over these types more than any other.

>>1439874
I don't know, she has lusted after Kiara's thick thighs in a way that is too convincent for a shitty actress like her.

>>1422980
this, but more the latter I think

>>1424403
>source: my hairy ass
nice work anön

>>1423105
In high school, I had an underclassmen who I was friends with for years, that was a known lesbian and had dated only women up till my senior year, come out and say she loved me for the entire time we'd known each other. I helped her through some of her baggage with an ex that was abusive and that just pushed her over the edge to confess. Granted, she confessed while I was tripping on acid, so the outcome wasn't the greatest, but its still pretty funny to say I turned a gay girl straight.

>>1427521
>Matsuri got cute after she lost a bunch of weight after school
I think she's fine though a bit reliant on angles and makeup on tiktok

>>1440035
That's only natural, though. If gay men can admire tits, straight women are allowed to lust after thighs, the best part.

Because in Japan lesbianism is largely seen as just a phase teenage girls go through. By playing up that angle, girls come across as younger and therefore cuter to their Japanese audience.

>>1440201
It took us this long to reach the right answer, but here we are.

>>1424098
>are you really this new?
You need to stop being surprised by this. Gura alone gains tens of thousands of subs a week.

>>1440201
Its also seen as extremely problematic when you don't "grow" out of it. Hence japan's not good stance on LGBT shit.

>>1440370
>problematic
Tranny lingo

>>1431223
I hate Youtube and Jewgle.

>>1440441
No? It is seen as a problem in japan. They view it as refusing to grow up and accepting your responsibility to get fucked by a dude and raise a family with him.

>>1431130
Anonymous victimisation surveys, which is where they get this information from, is how we are able to point out a discrepancy between number of reports to police and number of actual cases. You're trying to pretzel your argument into a point where you can walk away thinking you've won, but your core assumption that lesbians don't experience abuse from their partners at a higher rate than heterosexual or homosexual couples is totally wrong. You have no actual evidence to counter act it and the few 'holes' you poke in the data are not significant enough to distrust the conclusions.

>>1439152
Are those two the only legit ones so far?

>>1425304
>>1425326
Even for men it's not necessarily a death sentence
It's even worse since they cut your dick off and pump you full of estrogen

>>1440468
They're not wrong, those guys have got enough birthrate problems without faggots and dykes making it worse

>>1440906
I mean that's straight people fault, homos are a small part of the population them not making babies shouldn't matter if japan's average sex life wasn't so fucked

>>1428386
Japanese women aren't inherently hot, unless you're implying the average anon here has yellow fever, which is probably true for the ones who aren't hardcore 3DPD.
But most of the holos are probably hot anyway, because attractive people are preferentially hired in any field.

>>1441265
Polka is considered one of the uglier ones if that tells you anything. She's not even ugly. She looks fine, she's just a little chubby for an asian girl. Botan doesn't look good though, so there's her.

>>1422943
I found five people in this thread that actually believe that them being lesbians is real

Like Ollie said its all in good fun, nobody takes yuribait flirting seriously.

Except Reine, that girl is actually fucking gay.

>>1441294
anon don't do this to me I just want a cute stacked loli vtuber female gf to make me pancakes and let me use her butt as a pillow while playing spelunky 2

>>1441294
We literally know that Matsuir, Miko, Reine, and Kiara are all gay (or bi in Kiara's case) Coco is also very fucking likely bi or gay. Acting like all of them are just straight because /u/ goes fucking overboard with their yuri shit is denying reality.

>>1441366
>that girl is actually fucking gay.
Proof?

>>1441411
IIRC its roomate shit I think. She was an artist who drew exclusively lesbian porn or something.

>>1441410
Even adding to this, we also know that Marine is bi (and is super open about it) and I think some doxx faggots found shit on Ame pre-hololive where she claimed she was bi if I remember the doxx correctly. Oh, and its heavily implied Luna had actual feelings for Matsuri, due to how upset she got when Matsuri rejected her to go simp for her straight friend she's hopelessly in love with.

>>1441410
>>1441479
holy shit, you have to be paid shills because I refuse to believe that people can be this retarded,

>>1441512
>I refuse to acknowledge factual shit because I hate /u/ fags too much to accept reality
Nigga Matsuri made a fucking 9 minute video of her crying her eyes out after her date with Hoshikawa because Hoshikawa turned her down due to being straight. This wasn't posted on her main channel either, it was on her off character podcast she has. I guess she's just such an amazing actress that she can fake cry on command. Who knew hololive had such talented girls that they could just retroactively fake being gay before they even joined Cover.

>>1441543
>Got turned down? Guess I'll make a video about it!
Fake af

>>1439843
Yes, but to be honest, she must have been a really big fan of Hololive. She has reached her dream to actually talk with people that she admires. Her simping is pure fangirling but I'm not surprised if she's bi.

>>1427320
>who else in HL is canon cute irl?
Rushia
Matsuri
A-chan
Fubuki
The others are too subjective to say their attractive overall but none of the chuubas are downright ugly.

>>1441543
Talking with you is a waste of time, I just let you know that I hate you because simps like you are the reasons why our girls from Hololive are so restricted in terms of collabing and can't even say hi to their male colleagues on Twitter without getting tons of hate, all because your kind is so eager to eat all this made-up yuri shit

>>1441512
>These known things dont fit my stupid narrative therefore they aren't real
>Claims the anon who unironically believes that gay/bi people don't exist in japan
I get hating /u/ faggots but you've reached brain fried levels of hatred.

Stop seething at lesbians, no one cares about your armchair analysis you're pathetic

>>1441479
>Marine is bi
>literally said she didn't do anything with Shion in the end the day they overslept cause she was scared to cross the line
Doubt.

>>1425304
No, there's gay people in Indonesia and yet no one is executing them publicly. Hell, there used to be a famous trans celeb in Indonesia.

Unless you are talking about Aceh, the province with sharia law aka. one of the poorest province in Indonesia. Even in Aceh gays are only punished by lashing.

>>1441574
>Gets turned down
>Doesn't want to cry on her actual channel
>Instead makes it on her super obscure not very popular out of character podcast thing she had
Yeah man, she totally milked that fake story for all its worth by *checks notes* not fucking posting it on her actual channel. Also man, who knew that Matsuri was such a good actress, she could just cry on command about a story that is just made up. Wild shit. I guess all vtubers are actually just super talented highly skilled actors, instead of just streamers.

>>1441606
Not that guy, but you're an absolute retard. What you're complaining about is purity fags, not yurichads.

>>1427831
Adidas lion...

>>1441616
>didn't do anything
>Both of them openly refuse to discuss what happened that night to this day
Yeah I don't know anon. Something went down.

>>1441639
The same thing, everyone knows that "lesbians" are meme so the Simps can still think they have a chance if there's no other guy involved so they will keep throwing money, don't lie to yourself

>>1429740
>the guy who's the Japanese equivalent of Pewdiepie, per his own statements, apparently asked her on multiple occasions to go on a date with him, and she turned him down.
Hikakin tried to tap Senchou and failed? Arienai!

>>1441606
Hey retard, they can't talk to guys, because they are idols, and must follow idol rules, not because of fucking yurifags you absolute monkey.

Also, why do you just pretend like gay or bisexual girls don't exist in japan? Despite their being a fairly large movement recently to get them more rights? Nah that wouldn't fit your stupid narrative so therefore its not real.

>>1441422
Wow, will mama Pochi disown her for this?

>>1441656
That is literally not how that works. Idols are strictly forbidden from messing with guys. Period. Because of idolfags and purityfags. Not yurifags. Hololive girls are idols. They have to follow idol rules. Cover's whole gimmick is that they are a vtuber idol company. Anon please use your barely functioning brain and think.

>>1422943
Taps nicely into two demographics:
1. Fans who aren't directly invested in a relationship with the vtuber, but like the romance play. For some reason it's much less of an issue than romance play with a guy.
2. Girls that are flaming faggots but don't like 3DPD girls. pic unrelated

>>1441422
Wait I thought it was that her roommate wrote a metric fuck ton of super yuri fanfiction? Was she an artist instead?

>>1441698
How can you be stupid enough to think they're pretending for pandering

>>1441422
I thought she only draws some fujo shit and not actual porn.

>>1441666
>>1441696
And there you finally admitted that this whole yuri thing is made up shit for their idol personas, took a bit of work to lead you there

>>1441656
Nope. Again, that's what the purity fags want, to call it a phase or just fooling around so they can keep being delusional fucks thinking they'd ever have any chance with those girls they'll never even met in person. Yurichads want them to be in a relationship with other girl cause they seem to be happy together, and that's what matters.

>>1441644
Maybe they ended up smooching for a while, but in the end they never went further than that.

>>1441718
Well for starters it would be pandering directly to me, and last time I checked the universe does in fact revolve around the various delusions I snail-trail onto my pillow at night (and day).

>>1441731
No?????

Do you have actual autism? I said that its because of purityfags and idol culture that they can't interact with guys. Also, again, even though you keep ignoring literal factual fucking evidence. Matsuri is openly bi at the very least. She straight up was in love with Hoshikawa. She still is even now. She still simps over her mega hard. Miko is openly confirmed lesbian, she doesn't like guys. Marine and Shion damn near fucked and refuse to discuss what happened to this day and both get super weird about it when its brought up. That doesn't even take into account Mel and Choco straight up making out on stream before, or Kiara being aggressively gay since forever. I know it crushes your flawed tiny little world view, but there's a lot of lesbian and bi people in the world, and there's a good number of them in Japan. They do actually exist. They aren't fucking fairy tales.

>>1441806
There is a limit to how naive someone can be
and you just break it

>>1441780
They act really weird about it when its brought up. Neither will address what happened at all. I feel like if they just made out, they wouldn't make such a big deal out of it.

>>1441826
Talking with you, is ten times worse than even the most delusional /u/ faggot. You are unironically the dumbest fucking person I've ever seen. Congrats, you hate /u/ so much you've managed to fry your brain enough to pass even their most extreme levels.

>sex sells
>can't interact with men or you lose a decent number of viewers
>they're not Canadian so no dogs
>other women are the only choice

>>1436351
Roomate is confirmed Bi.

>>1441858
So you are the type who cope with anger, the fact that your defence mechanism is showing up mean that we are getting closer, maybe one day you will figure out that those girls are real humans and not just yuri anime characters

>>1441859
It's this or flirting with your chat. Which is just walking a tightrope between cute romance and e-thottery

>>1441891
It is literally because they are real humans, that we actually fucking know that several of them are bi or gay. You absolute clown. Gay and bi people exist in real life you know? They aren't mystical unicorms.

>>1441806
And it just so happens 80% of hololive is gay, right?

>>1441831
Well, iirc they said that they didn't suck anything, so my guess is that they made out for sure, then they tried to do more stuff but in the end they couldn't so they eventually gave up, and thus it's an awkward situation to bring up.

>>1441891
Congrats, you are officially worse than any /u/ fuck ive ever seen on here, and I thought gurame retards were bad.

>>1441933
They're completely blown out of proportion because of nowadays telecommunications though.

>>1441933
Being gay or bi is relevant when you are a male, I know you are propably underage and now all those games and movies are trying to convince you otherwise but lesbians are meme. It's something that can sell, and something that your ugly simp face will buy

>>1441933
>willful mischaracterization of argument
This is why no one likes faggots

>>1427831
choco isnt attractive

>>1441947
i mean they're girls, most girls are at least a little gay.

>>1441411
>>1441422
Yes, everything she did was hardcore yuri.
>>1441712
She did both anon; She drew cute yuri comics, drew yuri hentai (siccoring, fingering, blindfolds) and wrote yuri fanfic.
>>1441725
Nope, full on lesbian shit.

>>1441947
Only the most deluded /u/fag would ever make that claim..

>>1442033
Lesbians are meme because girls can't have sex, that's why they can be more open about it but ultimately it doesn't matter.
And no "lesbians" ever behave like a horny anime character, no matter what that one naive yuriretard here will try to tell you.
It may be too late for him

>>1442097
>oral sex is not sex
Whatever you say, Mr. President...

>>1441988
>>1442008
1 in 10 Japanese people registers as being LGBT. Thats a lot of fucking gay/bi people anon.

>>1442121
We don't talk about gays tho

>>1442097
>Girls cant have sex
Ah so you are literally anti-reality. It pisses you off that there are girls who would rather fuck each other than you. I gotcha.

>>1442121
>do a quick Google check
>it's from a fucking online survey
Come the fuck on, dude.

>>1442097
>Oral sex isn't sex
>using sex toys on each other isn't sex
>scissoring isn't sex
>insert thing that isn't dick in vagina isn't sex
Yes anon, only missionary position in the dark for the purpose of procreation is sex.

>>1442161
>Mass surveys are now not accurate because I said so
>All those people who did it clearly lied or were coerced

>>1441988
No, it's "blown out of proportion" because people are actually being honest with who they are.

>>1442145
Even wonder why gay people are almost universally hated when no one cares about lesbians? Now you can think about it
>>1442169
If you put dick in someone then it's sex, everything else is just some kind of funny foreplay, people also bond by having normal sex (not licking someone else cunt) That's the reason why generally gay relationships are a thing while lesbians couples are made up memes to display on twitter

>>1442119
anal sex also isn't sex, that's why all homos are virgins.

>>1442169
>>scissoring isn't sex
gonna have to stop you there, scissoring literally isn't a thing any lesbian does, it's just a porn thing.

>>1442215
>It works this way
>Source: Lol trust me bro
I'm sorry but you're feelings on how things "work" don't make them right. They are just that. Feelings. You are actually a lunatic. Congrats, you've reached incel level.

>>1442256
Eh ive met girls who done it its just not nearly as common as muh porn would lead you on to believe

Yuri gaga are just as retarded and annoying as fuji shits. Who would of guessed? Most of it is an act you morons.

>>1442184
>You really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell Lies?

>>1442259
The truth hurt doesn't it

>>1442290
>I dont like the outcome of the survey
>Therefore it must be lies!

All this shitshow of a thread could have been avoided if we managed properly sexual mental illnesses just like we try to do with schizophrenia and depression.
Sad

>>1442213
Yes, anon, everybody is gay. Of course.

>>1442259
>>1442306
Can you fucks shut the hell up? Why are you even arguing with a fucking incel? Just drop it and move on. Nobody cares if the holos want to eat pussy or not.

>>1442336
Simps definitely cares, that's what keeps the money coming

>>1442328
Honestly the thread itself was one big red flag. Im pretty sure this shitshow was a destined outcome from the beginning.

>>1442316
How naive are you?

>>1422943
Choco and Mel straight up made out on stream during one of their old offcollabs. I get yuribaiting, but I think you need to be at least a little bit into it to go that far.

Threads like this is why Jp niji viewers shit talk hololive viewers. Mentally ill degenerates caught up in their fantasy's.

>>1442388
I just dont understand why we cant just all admit that some of the holos are fucking dykes and move on. It hardly matters.

>>1442378
>literally a couple of girls out of the thousands of chuubas out there made out once
>that means all of them are gay

>>1429740
towa is not conventionally attractive at all

>>1442378
Choco dates dudes and talks about her experience with it. It's against the rules if I discuss what mel does that isn't vtubing.

>>1442404
Not everyone is retarded like you to fall on such a cliche act

>>1442410
>Never claimed all of them were gay
>Just used an example of two that are pretty likely at least bi
Okay but cmon thats a hell of a reach there anon.

>>1442404
I admit a handful of them, like crossick, are, but you should know the huge majority of them are just fooling around just for business.

>>1442437

>>1442461
I mean, I think anyone who thinks the majority of hololive is full of lesbians is quite the fucking reach but we know several who are. Girls like Matsuri, Miko, Reine, Kiara, and so on.

>>1422943
Mori...

>>1442378
Have you ever been to parties in your life? Girls make out all the time, especially for attention from (hot) dudes.

>>1436306
Is coco cute irl?

Why is it that people rely on the same studies over and over again while ignoring more recent ones? Being gay today is way different than being gay 5 years ago, let alone 10 and you keep posting the same links and green texts from /pol/ every single time it gets brought up.

Have you actually looked into domestic abuse statistics? Did you really read the article and the sources you keep posting over and over?

You're the kind of person who will look at a headline and make it fit your narrative without even putting the effort.

Does it come from a place of ignorance, memery or hatred?

>>1425087
Dildos don't crap out after like 20mins

>>1442419
tell us about the scandinavian top models you are used to dating anon

>>1443637
i don't really care, i just want those mentally ill faggots to receive treatment instead of us having to make society worse than it already is just so they can feel better

>>1424060
Didn't she said to like grown up mens tho?

Feel like lots of anons equate liking women to being lesbian, whereas I think Miko (maybe Kanata too) are the only actual lesbians mentioned here, who genuinely have no attraction to men. Everyone else is just bisexual (yes, that includes Crossick too), some more into women, some less.

>>1443637
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT WITH THE NEWEST STUDIES
>ITS SETTLED SCIENCE
>IF THE STUDY DISAGREES WITH ME IT'S OUTDATED

>>1422943
>Biblically accurate Kanata
I've been thinking about this. Thanks op

>>1444448
What about Matsuri?

>>1444567
Definitely too interested in dicks to be a complete dyke, but she probably leans towards females.

>>1444504
classic /v/, now I remember why I stopped going there

>>1444448
Miko dealed with too many creep she have trauma with men(almost kidnap by pedo and now got stalked by jii san next door). Kanatan simply seek for a kind mother figure and Coco gave her that.

>>1444671
Well, there you go then. There are no true dykes in the world of vtubing, just a bunch of bisexuals and traumatized women.

>>1444567
she's a self confessed bisexual.
mind you all of her publish crushes were on girls.

>>1444779
yeah, but when she has wet dreams, she's taking risuna-san's dick from what she said

>>1442779
Kiara would've eventually gotten in her pants if she didn't left Japan. Pity.

>He doesn't know.
Most women pretend to be lesbian.

>>1443637
>Being gay today is way different than being gay 5 years ago--
This is the dumbest shit I've read on 4chan in a while.

Gays aren't real, The thread.

Mentally ill /u/fags are better than the desilusional bunch of faggots crying about some anime girls who don't want to take their dicks because they prefer pussy we got here.

>>1445192
no it's true.
in the beforfor times being gay meant you liked dicks, now it just means you like onions.

>>1445207
>"Homosexuality is a mental illness"
>OMG UR JUST MAD TAHT SHE DOESNT WANT YOUR DICK
Anon...

>>1428859
>who needs statistic when you have the stories I make up in my head???

>This thread has a higher reply count than some chuuba generals
Nuke the board

>>1445295
Actually, is has the same stats as an anti-Kiara thread. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

>>1445330
Fuck.

Marine talked about being attracted to women in highschool on stream and i don't even have to explain Matsuri.
Polka said she's lesbian years before joining hololive.
Noel is openly bi.
Both Towa and Coco have said they don't care about gender as their roommate.
Saying they don't like women is literally anti /u/ fanfiction from insecure /pol/tards.
Grow up

>>1443637
Lol gay people

>>1427504
How's that comic coming along, Chris?

>>1445445
>they don't care
nobody cares until they're in bed and they realize they actually care

>>1422943
Because JP and EN fans get butthurt at any mention of BF and will go through great length to hurt idols.

>>1431223
This is adorable. Especially since Mel is so small.

>>1439152
>moving in together soon
I love these dykes.

>>1445928
>not already living together
They are like little baby

>>1422943
I'm pretty sure most of them are straight, they only play up the lesbian thing because it's a pg-13 way to get sexuality into their character without introducing a male (you know how Japanese otaku react to men around their idols)

>>1443637
Being gay is still taken as a risk factor for many diseases by doctors, either mental or venereal. Nothing has changed lol.

>>1444448
Sukoya has clearly said she has no interest in guys outside of fictional characters.
Tomoe has said she has no plans to date a guy ever again

>>1446675
Have you never dealt with women IRL before?

most lesbians were abused by men or family or classmates or don't like the looks of men faces
out of liking Neoteny facial features in mates
heres a correct list not including EN
noel is gay
flare was kidnapped by a gay
matsuri is bi
kanata is gay
coco is gay
aqua is not gay
shion is sickly asexual
pekora is asexual but thinks about sex and will try to shut people up talking about it unless its her (hypocrite)
rushia gave up on relationships completely
the rest are ether not gay bi or gay for pay

>>1441859
is okayu canadian?

>>1446675
So Tomoe had a bad experience and essentially overreacted in response. I'm sure meeting the right man will be able rectify that. Imagine how happy her family would be, I'm sure she's aware that.

>>1439843
Anon... girls like that are usually straight as all hell.

>>1446950
anon she does not need your projection because you are a failure to your own family

>>1423105
How come this is always such a "bold" statement, but we never see stuff like "gay men don't exist, they just haven't had a tight warm pussy yet"

>>1447053
Because what >>1423105 said is true while what you said isn't.
Gay men were usually abused by other gay men as children and so act this out later in life. Then, they go on to abuse male children just like they were, so it's kind of like a grotesque perversion of normal reproduction.

>>1428451
welcome to life

Hunter gather tribes would send men off to get food while women stayed home and would do lesbian things and take care of offspring until the men got back. men also had each other while they were away from the women
welcome to the human race retards

>>1446897
>flare was kidnapped by a gay
lol

>>1447144
Homo cope

"They hugged on stream so they are clearly gay"
Feels like half of the people here have never seen girls being friends before
You all are either delusional or just a /u/tards

>>1447053
>How come this is always such a "bold" statement, but we never see stuff like "gay men don't exist, they just haven't had a tight warm pussy yet"
Because women do not chase men like men chase women.

>>1447158
prison gay is thing
you are coping with human nature

>>1447019
Tomoe's trad nip family wants her to get married to man and have lots of babies, and she's aware of it. That is a fact that you /u/fags have to cope with.

How can a red blooded straight man not find girls kissing each other hot?

>>1447159
I'd like to hear what happened?

>>1447242
malaysians and family coping always goes hand in hand.
stop projecting peoples familiar love because your lack of thereof.

>>1447242
Nice rrat, except Tomoe's father literally watches Sukoya's streams on a regular basis. He is one of us and he approves of it. Also, their genepool is already safe thanks to their other daugher.

>>1447279
seas mostly malaysians and seas around java
have been raped by their fathers so they fight anything homosexual in nature to try to prove they are manly men.

>>1447283
Nothing. That anon was saying, "Flare isn't gay, she just has to act like it because of corporate direction."

>>1447633
No noel locked flare in her home and molested her for days
flare has stockholm syndrome gay

>>1429124
>>1428451
>You're just conjecturing a theory you have from it.
Ironic that you accuse him of this when it's literally the exact same thing you're doing. Your data says nothing about when the abuse occurred or who perpetrated it, only that person received it. Both of your arguments are complete conjecture unless the WHEN and WHO of the data are established. Stop acting like you're some paragon of research and reason when you fail to apply even basic scientific standards to the data you use for your arguments.

>>1447693
I thought it was Flare the one that turned Noel gay

>>1447713
based
>>1447740
no being abused in school by boys for having D size tits turned noel gay

>>1422943
it sells

>>1447053
dick is better than pussy

>>1422943
shiping theories bait and merchandising shit

>>1447889
Faggot.

>>1447911
For me the interesting part is figuring out which ones, if any, are the real deal from the majority of BS ones. From what I've seen the only 100% legit ones are crossick. I mean, they even openly discussed the business side of it and everything.

>>1447279
I find it very hot to imagine crossick kissing with my dick between their lips.

>>1448547
Is pretty amusing that there's more pictures of Crossick fucking guys than there is of Takamori

>>1424680
All ChocoxMel 3D clips are ones of the most famous clips on youtube

>>1448579
May have something to do with Crossick being a thing for way longer and being way more popular in Japan.

>>1448579
I love when they use Crossick's art tags to post these on twitter, cause you know Tomoe and Sukoya are going to see them.

>>1448668
I guess, still is odd how few western artists have jumped on the idea

>>1442441
Hoshikawa made out with Gundou and Hoshikawa says she is not into girls at all. It's kayfabe, bro. Yuri sells.

>>1450768
More precisely sex sells. Even Gundou prefers guys but it's just so much easier to play around with girls since no-one takes it seriously.

>>1442958
Very.

>>1441586
Okayu is pretty fug. Lovely voice though.

>>1445776
Off topic but Chris getting into vtubers or becoming one would be pretty funny. But MLP is the only thing living rent free in his head right now

>>1447462
So why then are Flip males so effeminate?

>>1441586
For me it's Kanata. Too bad she's married

>>1451238
She not ugly, just considerably overweight. If anything, Okayu is better looking than Korone, imo.

>>1441859
>They're not Canadian
Ina...

>>1451314
yeah korone looks like my chubby aunt and not in a hot way

>>1450768
Hoshikawa doesn't say she is not into girls, she says she is bi.

>>1422943
Vtuber cash flow lives and breaths on building an emotional connection with males who will give the girls money. This emotional connection is built on the idea that the idol will never threaten this relationship by interacting with people in the out-group that are seen as lesser or taboo. This involves any male Vtuber that the viewer doesn't like, or most real life men. Even the concept that they would ever have sexual temptations with these people dirties the image of the idol, so reinforcing this viewer comfort by acting gay with fellow members of the in-group causes people to feel secure in the purity of their idol.

This is in vs out group dynamic is why interacting with people like siblings or parents is allowed, but interacting with male peers is not. The in group may also include men that aren't seen as sexual threats to the idols, meaning other chat members, and people like Yagoo.

TL;DR: If men feel like they could be cucked at all, they will lose interest and stop donating.

Ogey, yes or no?
>Okakoro
>AquShion
>MatsuLuna
>NoeFlare
>CocoKana

>>1451912
That's what every vtuber who wants to yuribait says though. Flirting with a girl over the internet once does not make someone bisexual.

>>1451156
buddy don't leave us hanging, giv sauce

>>1451989
All Ogey but I don't like how KanaCoco's designs clash

>>1422943
Because any male presence causes the nip autists to uncontrollably fire liquid shit from every slanted orifice.
Dykism is a safety net, suggesting they're not even interested in schlong.

>>1447764
>Being abused by boys
As in groping or making fun of her? Cuz Jesus fuck how retarded are nip boys if big boobs are just something to laugh at

>>1452036
The important thing is their personalities, though.

>>1452021
It's not even a secret, just use Google.

>>1450088
Because most of the western TakaMori drawfags are either dykes themselves or total yurifags

>>1442958
She has a tongue piercing and multiple tattoos. She wears Adidas all the fuckiing time, and she's got a decent sized chest. She's extremely hot.

>>1447002
>Kiara is pretty much confirmed bi
>Nah but they straight as fuck though
I don't know about Ollie, who the fuck knows what the zombie wants, but Kiara is just considered bi and I think roommate shit has proven that as well iirc.

>>1441586
>but none of the chuubas are downright ugly.
Porka

>>1452197
Yep, plenty of evidence for that

>>1452202
Shes not even that bad looking, nor is she even actually fat. Being mildly chubby doesn't make a woman fat. She looks absolutely fine. She's not a knockout or anything, but she's very much decent looking and any anon would fuck her in a heartbeat.

>>1452098
https://ifunny.co/video/h5Wy11or7
beloved shitposting dragon

Speaking of cute girls, one more gushing over Tomoe, this time Kazaki after Emma's 3D, saying how her face, figure, voice and personality are all amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDlBp-lZkUY&t=1620s

Tomoe is gonna be the cause of all 2434 girls being lesbians.

>>1452275
That's a really long tongue.

>>1452063
you legit have no understanding of how rare boobs are in japan.

>>1452325
One of these days Sukoya is going to cut a bitch

>>1452275
What's that guy cumming sound

>>1427320
Moona is hot as fuck. She's thin with a nick rack.

Mori is unironically fighting for top three biggest IRL breast size in all of Hololive. Plus she has a nice face if you like average American blond girls

Kiara is pretty hot too, though her face is only average. Nice as fuck body though.

Lamy has massive ass breasts and is an absolute giga chad top. (She straight up grabbed Matsuri and made out with her on their date while drunk.

Luna has to be cute as fuck irl because Matsuri copped feelings for her pretty damn fast. Plus shes actually just a brat in real life too.

I think Ollie got found out to be a hot as fuck cosplayer e-girl (Or was that Moona?)

Pretty much all of the chubbas are either decent to knockout gorgeous.

>>1452387
botan...

>>1451989
Out of the list, the ones most likely to actually be straight up fucking is 100% Coco and Kanata. Shion did try and fuck Marine though and they at the very least nearly did based on what little we know about that night. Okayu and Korone are pretty likely, since they've known each other since well before hololive and Korone radiates bisexual past their prime emo bitch energy so I'd buy it. There's at least substantial evidence that Flare and Noel might've fucked during an offcollab based on how Noel looked in her roommate's video the next day.

>>1452387
Always forget that somehow a girl as fucking dorky and awkward as Mori is rocking massive fucking knockers and a bombshell body. It's such a waste she's asexual.

>>1452444
Botan is average at worst notable given her age

>>1452444
Botan is nearly in her 40s. She looks fine all things considered. She's not the hottest or anything, but she's okay.

>>1452695
how, where did you get this information, wtf does she look like>?

>>1453073
She nearly became an FPS pro gamer. She competed in a few tournys and stuff.

>>1452447
>Shion did try and fuck Marine
>Marine got cold feet in the end and she ended up rejecting her
>now Shion has Aqua, but she's reluctant to make any advances on her cause she's scared of it happening again, even though Aqua constantly teases her

>>1431223
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>1440906
Homos are a minority, the problem are the straight japs that don't wanna make babies

>>1452498
>asexual
idk man the papers please stream really brought out her maternal instincts, hell anything thats small and male does.

>>1441641
>>1427921
>>1429439
I thought she was looking better lately? Then again its been a while since I've been to the hag thread.

Some of them may be some of them aren't and use it as a way to not get hate form purityfags and idolfags and some pandering to yurifags

All of you here are extremely retarded when make a long post about how " actually they are lebian" or "actually they aren't lesbian"
kys

>>1454033
HOOK A BROTHER UP

>>1427831
Polka...

>>1452387
Nah, she's like a 6/10.

>>1422943
This image is terrifying but cute

>>1422943
This image terrifies me but makes me happy. Is that weird?