/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14225540
>that pic
OH NO NO NO NO... Nijinig... sorry, i mean Nijisisters, dont look!

>>14225540
Imagine your top performer getting mogged by an Indog.

>>14225540
King...

>>14225540
Spicy

>>14225605
Moona's a better as a singer than Valorant is as a game

Time to take a small nap King

>>14225668
Someone post that Tweet.

Speaking of reaction content. If a Holo feels like doing reaction content, they can just react to clips of other Holos instead.

>>14225704

>>14225726
Kiara does that in HoloTalk

>>14225540
Explain this Kuzuhafags?!

>>14225726
I mean yeah technically they could but they're not going to do that all the time because that's gonna bring up drama

Mogged by Mel, Mogged by Moona.

Is there any hope left for the King?

>>14225726
>If a Holo feels like doing reaction content, they can just react to clips of other Holos instead.
yes but what if someone laughs at something that the other holo takes offense too?

>>14225776
The thing with that is that the clip has to be translated in-house instead by Cover’s translator.
They don’t want shit translations misrepresenting their talents.

>>14225540
Fuck you Anon! The King is still the King! He was just letting others have a taste of the medals!
It was Susan and JewTube, they took his numbers away! He had 70k but she fucking hide and stole them if you don't believe it then the whole Sub removal is bullshit and your holos are being unsub for being shit!

>>14225726
Do you mean something like a news format in the morning where a Holo will talk about any exciting thing happening to another Holo?

>>14225726
Coco ...

Speaking of reaction content, weren't there multiple instances of people reacting to HoloX debuts? Why didn't they get striked?

>>14225726
from the clip last thread, it seems as long as you pause alot and react it won't be a problem, since you're transforming as another content. Valkyrae also does react streams in YT. Pretty sure Gura could do that easily too

>>14225920
why kill free publicity?

>>14225726
Miko did that but dropped it

>>14225805
I blame the female outfit

>>14225920
Ads cost a lot of money

>>14225920
Why would they? This adds to the algo dominance.

>>14226000
>>14225959
Wait a minute that means Ludwig could spend all his time reacting to hololive content to reach his 200 hours streamed quota

>>14225540
what happened to "no bait OPs" ?

>>14225920
Why force growth with ads when you can get organic growth with other channels reacting to your content and advertising for free?

>>14226148
Would be unfair for Hololive to receive yet another free publicity boost.

>>14226153
It's a fact. A subhuman indog once beaten someone leagues above her with a relatively normal stream.
>>14226219
What's fair anymore?

>>14226148
Who would be Ludwig's oshi?

>>14226148
Watamage strikes again.

>>14226190
It's not for free unless those leeches subject themselves to the same rules as clippers.

>>14226153
This is a Nijianti thread. Not allowed to discuss that company unless you're shitting on it so who cares.

>>14226153
Ever since the HoloX debut this rule has been forgotten. It will probably be implemented again when the dry season comes so the thread won't be full of schizos.

>>14226153
I mean, you can create a new thread with a non-bait OP
But I doubt it will be faster than this one

>>14226153
OP brains got the numberrot

Is Orca kill?

Is /#/ threads inclining?

>>14225149
>>14225227
>>14225378
Jesass.. if you really think about it, this is some dystopian horror shit. At least with Vtuber they can separate themselves from their chuuba persona and maintain a healthy separate life outside of Vtubing. Same with the fans, the avatar functioned as a clear wall of the real and the dont. Since we already autismo enough about anime character, we can count on watching chuubas as the same as watching a long ass series. Those face cam streamers tho...

>>14226291
Hololive didn't pay them, so it's basically for free.

>>14226148
Is that a ludwigfags here? Tell the guy to react to hololive. It's free content and the girls will even promote him in return

Coping Nijifags playing the victim whenever their "king" loses while being absolutely insufferable whenever he gets close to taking bronze. Not even gold or silver, fucking bronze.

>>14226538
Tell him to react to Nijisanji content instead

>>14226573
Silverboy was a relatively short lived meme. Now he can't even be called bronze boy anymore.

>>14226538
Even if it's free content it will be rought since he still needs to consider her chat.
https://youtu.be/0eg-tuvjsSU
What an average twitch chat thinks about vtubers.

>>14226153
The numbers thread was always a Hololive hugbox.

>>14226661
Don't worry Nijifags will pay him to react once they hear the news about him turning into a holofag. it happens alot to small react channels.

>>14226668
xQc chat is not "Average" Twitch chat anon

>>14226696
cope, JP vs EN happens every time you faggots can't take a day... which is 15 days in a row now

>>14226668
I'm seeing a lot Hololive is Pog and lots of Anti-Vtuber comments.

>>14226696
It only feels like a Hololive Hugbox because Hololive brings bigger numbers especially now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBPQW-MGNPM
>12k
>These two has been at it for 4 hrs already
>They finally turns the game into PvP

>>14226733
Those are just falseflagging Holofags that are bored.

Unlike Holobronies, Nijifans are respectable and keeps to their own thread.

>>14225642
What was kuzuha previous numbers with Valorant? Seems pretty low even with a debuff game. I expected him to get slightly below or above the 20k mark even on a bad game/day.

>>14226696
Cope

>>14226769
Don't you mean MORAL VICTORY anon.

>>14226450
No, if any of the vtubers takes any breaks from being a vtuber and has a life outside of work, they are lazy.

>>14226769
Remember the times where Nijis wins the day and the thread suddenly turns civilized with actual discussion being made?
Me neither. That was far too long ago.

>>14225726
Just like old Asacoco when Ark was a thing. Best thing about Asacoco was getting a summary of what was going in Ark. Alot harder to do that kind of shit when not nearly everyone is playing one game. If only Asacoco made it to the revived MC arc of 2020.

>>14226769
Bullshit!
Lots of Nijibeggars are invading split threads and lots of dramafags trying to start shit in the catalog.

>>14226774
Valorant is unironically a bad streamer game.

>>14226830
Again, those are falseflagging Holobronies. This entire board was made because of Holofags shitting up /jp/

>>14226769
So nijikeks are now winning in moral Kek, absolute state of Nijis bubble

Is this the numbers thread or a fucking gossip thread!?
For fuck sake anons number! I want them now. Numbers going on right now, number predictions, low numbers, BIG NUMBERS come on numbers numbers numbers! Give me some fucking numbers!

Do we have NijiEN numbers?

>>14226774
Weaker than APEX.
>>14226833
Its fine if you don't compare it to APEX. Most popular FPS in JP is APEX and most APEXfags struggle with Valorant because its not a BR and you die really fast and you don't get to have as much banter as walking around APEX's big BR maps. CR's Valorant team also is no way close to as popular as their APEX team, even before the lame smurfing scandal with Beni.

>>14226879
Source: My ass

Alright can someone pull up Sony's numbers, I wanna see how those poor souls are doing.

>>14226668
>hana from nijiID
>chat says holo
jesas it's that bad huh, vtubers = holo in the West. Then again it's from Aug
>>14226721
huh? pretty sure it is

>>14226896
These are the ongoing streams of all vtubers.
It's hard to talk about numbers if they're this low.
IRyS/Kronii collab was discussed hours ago.

>>14226896
There's not much going on now.

>>14226967 (me)
Besides Some of the discussions were still related to numbers.
>Free Publicity from reactors
>Kuzuha vs Moona

Wait a few hours. There will lots of streams fighting for the gold today.

>>14226450

nah that shit doesnt happen much less here.
if they arent playin games or collabing 100hrs a month at least they are called laizy and a failure.

>>14226953
It isn't considering that xQc is one of the top streamers.

>>14226721
xqc build a chat of only aderrall, memes and people wanting to see him suffer. He gets swatted not just by haters but fans too.

>>14227049
Nijisanji... do something...

Honestly, I'm just waiting for Ludwig to get unbanned and find Gura at his timeslot. Then, it goes to, "Wait, what's Hololive?" to, "Second largest female streamer is in Hololive?!", to,"Do they have any site trackers?" to, "Holy fuck."

>>14226953
>huh? pretty sure it is
No, he is right. Average Twitch chat doesn't move that fast. The instant you get a fast chat is when chat conversation gets simplified. Hell, even streams on YouTube with 1k viewers starts to border on unusable while on Twitch with 1k viewers the chat doesn't go that fast unless something out outrageous happens on stream to evoke a burst of replies. Even with the youtube views bug it isn't like 1k viewers on youtube is actually 2k viewers. It's probably a few hundred more at best.

>>14226450
>this is some dystopian horror shit.
I hope you're joking, most people will work 160h a month just fine, anyone that has worked a job and studied at the same time or just had 2 jobs has it harder than those streamers and almost certainly aren't being paid several million,

>>14226769
We're reaching the level of delusion that should be punishable by law

>>14227192
what are the odds of that happening? could be very fortunate timing for hololive as well if that were to happen since myth will get a bunch of tourists coming back for their new outfits and ludwig tourists

>>14227192
Gura's numbers are too low for him to react this way, Pekora loses to Amourath, remember.

>>14226967
Those numbers are absolutely disgusting.

>>14226896
Well Laplus' God-ish is approaching ローレン・イロアス of にじさんじ's cover real fast. Only 50k views to go until it becomes the most viewed cover

>>14227257
I can imagine a scenario where ludwig gets curious when the chat tells him "LOSING TO VTUBER NUMBERS KEKW"

>>14227278
why, Is his audience numberfag or something

>>14227304
It's a twitch chat thing to sometime mock their streamers when they get shit numbers

>>14227257
IIRC that was during the hot tub stream meta but I think Amouranth still beats Pekora without it.

>>14227334
Maybe top streamers, never seen it in other streams. The only times viewers come up is when the streamer gets raided and they are surprised in how many people are now viewing them since they aren't use to it.

>>14227334
Doc....

>>14227272
that's actually smart to put niji's names in Japanese since this thread is full of EOPs. we might get more discussion out of it that way

>>14227247
Depends, Ludwig got banned for 7 days because he watch a few seconds of Baby Shark.

>>14227257
Nah, Gura is part of the equation. Getting him to react to a vtuber first is the harder part and Gura's presence would make it easier since they stream at the same timeslot. You need to remember, other than Pokimane, Valkyrae or Amouranth, there's no other big female streamers out there and he has a lot of info on all the top streamers on twitch and their usual numbers. Gura getting 15-25k ccv is already enough bait for him to react since he's now on YT and his only contents are reactions. Just look at the thing he's doing on his channel, it's only a matter of time, there's one image of vtuber on there.

https://www.youtube.com/c/Ludwigahgren/videos

Now, after he took the bait, he'll most likely move on to read about Hololive on stream and that's where he'll find Pekora and Miko. Reacting to their clips is only a matter of time.

Also, do note why I'm saying that Ludwig is likely to react to Hololive is because he's already friend with top female streamers and the content they do. Him reacting to another set of female streamers that doesn't whore themselves out already makes for nice content and discussions. But, honestly though, he's likely to boost nijiEN through collabs in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5o5BJuOKS8

>>14227448
Your average numberfag would recognize the very obvious "Nijisanji" at the back. Not to mention it takes only a single day to learn Kata and Hira

>>14227232
Im talking about puting yourself in front of camera for thousands to see anonchama... for hours/whole day. That's shit is unnerving

>>14227489
implying shitposters would put that much effort. I still think it's pretty smart

>>14227479
My ESLness... I didn't proofread before entering.

>>14227479
when did he get banned? EN outfit starts on the 9th and ends on the 11th I think

>>14227357
This the recent one, so I don't think so.

>>14226932
cunny is the strongest but still sub 200 viewer. Kinda funny, her games are what a holo would play and follow same CCV pattern
>Apex is debuff
>Getting Over It/Minecraft is a buff
Sony is gunning for that Holo audience

>>14227559
I'm still mad they got Pekora's number wrong

>>14227500
Meh, I would rather do that than spend 6 hours a week commuting, to then spend 40h a week on a cubicle.

>>14227577
can they boxpush though?

>>14227530
A while ago, but the thing is... He's getting unbanned on the day Gura is getting her outfit reveal so it's not a zero percent chance that he's gonna react to her stream live seeing 100k+ people reacting on an outfit reveal. Though, I don't remember much but I think he has a collab after getting unbanned so he'll likely missed it. But if they all watch it together...

>>14227610
Box pushing doesn't work if everyone is weak as fuck.

>>14227500
>in front of camera for thousands to see
?????
They are vtubers, no one is seeing them, it's just an avatar, what the fuck are you talking about

>>14227577
>Sony is gunning for that Holo audience
big mistake on their part

>>14227655
We were talking about streamers dude, read the reply chain dumbass.

>>14227613
https://twitter.com/LudwigAhgren/status/1466193337539383297
sykkuno might tell him about it since he's apparently a chumbud.

>>14227699
Wht are you talking about streamers in the vtuber board? Seriously fuck off with this off topic shit, fucking twitch faggots.

Anyone hoping for youtube to cleanse their algorithm to give other vtubers a chance?

And they should ban clippers too while they are at it. Those leeches should fuck off.

>>14227756
No

>>14227257
Anon gura still gets upwards of 20k. That's about the same numbers that amourath gets, she just streams alot more.

>>14227479
>he's likely to boost nijiEN through collabs in the future
If it is to happen, i hope elira capitalize the shit out of it unlike her predecessor

>>14227500
I remember the rrat among normalfags back then saying corporate chuubas stream inside cubicles or some shit. This one takes it to a whole nother level

>>14227723
>he doesn't know
Fuck off newfag. Ludwig is one of the top/big streamers on twitch going to YTGaming. His presence alone could directly affect the numbers for vtubers on YT since his content are primarily reaction videos. Him reacting to vtubers is likely to boost EN vtubers in the future.

>>14227717
>apparently
nigga that guy's balls deep in being a gura fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvLFBDzJPDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lstJuDThuhg
how many of you fucks will wear a bloop mask?

>>14227723
Because they can easily influence the community? Imagine if they reacted to Holo or Niji clips.
>>14227756
>ruin the lives of the biggest moneymakers so the ones without solid foundations has a chance to make 30% of what the former used to make
No. And if YouTube gave a shit they wouldn't end up here to begin with.

>>14227577
I feel for streaming APEX, there is more competition? I know there are a bunch of MC streamers but I feel they don't compete/eat up each other viewers as much as APEX. Getting Over It and other kuso games like Jump King are streamer games so naturally are usually buffs.

>>14227559
This is watched hours, not ccv, something that's not immediately apparent when you first stumble on the channel.

>>14227825
>>14227804
Then wait till he reacts and then said reaction give the girls any numbers, nothing happened yet, so you are just talking about some literal who that has fuck all to do with vtubers

>>14227822
IIRC, Gura's roommate and him know each other kappa. Sykkuno's older tho despite how he looks.

>>14227756
You want Youtube to recommend 6 hours VOD of fucking apex gameplay? Ain't nobody watching that

>>14227613
>>14227717
>well..well..well..

>>14227756
This is literally one step removed from praying to God that nijisanji miraculously a inclines tomorrow

>>14226148
Ludwho?

>>14227756
This is why you're not in charge of anything. Hopefully this lasts for eternity.

>>14227756
Nijibros..

>>14227874
>wait
This thread is also a prediction/gypsy fortune thread, anon

Ohh Shit, Nene and Iroha will clash in an hour.
>Iroha have been trying to get her attention but to no avail (3 quoted retweets ignored)

I wonder who'll get higher numbers?

>>14227896
What makes you think that he hasn't done that already?

>>14227756
youtube only helps people with numbers, that's why we havea duopoly of niji holo, vspo was inclining, but that didn't last...

>>14227790
They have similar peaks views, but Amouranth has a much lower average at only 8k. She does streams a lot, like 400 hours a month lot.

>>14227883
That isn't the only predebut OTV/Myth connection. Curious what management thinks about it.

>>14227883
>>14227822
They were old "friend" (as in streamer friend) back in their 2view days

>>14227948
https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1467825423140950020?s=20

>>14227756
if this were to happen, everyone is gonna start clipping holo because they know holo will bring numbers therefore money to their channel. it will be an arms race on who will pump out the most clips in a day

>>14227756
Numbers beget numbers. It's going to suck for the EN small corpos that aren't western based since they will be stubborn in staying with youtube. Hope they realize they may need 3~5 years to hopefully make a break through. Tsunderia seems to be transitioning to Twitch the last couple weeks and a lot of their numbers have gone up considerably.

>>14227955
VSPO was reliant on APEX and the FPS community. There's no new FPS thats exciting and APEX isn't as hot. The coming CR Cup probably won't be as hype either since a bunch of people can't come.

>>14225540
How do you beat Kuzuha in viewership but lose to Millie in supachats?

Laplus got monetized, what are we thinking? Kronii level?

>>14228022
Ohh nice to know Nene replied

>>14227723
Holo is too strong. We need e-celeb numbers now to coom again

>>14228072
Yeah its possible because her last stream exposed her as a poorfag

>>14228058
Obviously because millie > kuzuha

>>14228058
How do you lose to Millie in supachats but beat Niji's number 1 in viewership?

You guys celebrating a monopoly is exactly what's killing the industry right now. Hololive gets all the numbers despite being untalented whores.

There are plenty of livers out there that has SOUL, yet you fucks aren't watching them.

>>14228110
*potentially a poorfag but it could also just be the model of router.
Regardless given the state of her rig people are gonna akasupa her with PC funds even if her new pc is already on its way.

>>14228058
ID doesn't have superchats. They have streamlabs but I doubt thats as profitable as superchats since people are lazy.

>14228178
Make a /talent/ if you will. This is the numbers thread, the exit is on the top right corner of your screen.
>>14228180
It's definitely just a model.

>View begging
>In THE Number thread
And people will reply to it too !

>>14228178
I don't need soul. I need entertainment.

>>14228178
Thats nothing new. Oyabun+4 kings was an era ruled by just five vtubers until they declined and their age ended.

Nijisanji has Apex tournament with alot of views. They even invite a famous celebrity to play apex with them. They got alot of Twitter trending. They had everything. But why Hololive still win in the end.

>>14228178
There are always transitions. May take a few years for another one. This isn't like youtube or Facebook as a platform so it can't dominate an inordinate amount of time.

>14228178
COPE SEETHE DILATE

>>14228178
Anon, please understand and remember that LIFE IS NOT FAIR Ayame got peak ccv and superchat yesterday fake crying and that's just reality of vtubing. Numbers thread are there to measure how unfair things are.

>>14228178
I don't give a shit about SOUL, I care about numbers.

>>14228244
Power of friendship. And also, didn’t Matsuri win their championship? kek, that must have stung!

Legit never thought that he would resort to begging. I feel kinda bad now bros........

>>14228244
>Nijisanji has Apex tournament with alot of views
No. You are thinking of Crazy Raccoon. Nijicup (the one that the Chihiro/Matsuri team won) did not have the crazy numbers of CR Cup and no celebs. Yamada from Hey! Say! JUMP joined CR Cup.

Begging for vies Kek, pathetic

anger stage

https://youtu.be/lX7m32u-Ikg?t=148
caustic is THE /#/ apex character

Here's the thing, you don't beg and insult the ones you're begging from in the same sentence.

>>14228291
It was Matsuri/Chihiro and Yukio? Yukio was the Pred that had to carry those two. IIRC that was the first APEX community tourney that a Holo was on a team that won. The Noah/Reid/Astel win was later. Not a Nijifag but I'm sure what was the first win an APEX community tourney that had a Niji on the team but Bora/Setomiya have won a CR Cup with CPT.

These are arguably original songs by Haachama. I wonder if they would show up at the rank.

>>14228372

https://youtu.be/WFWw821wozI
I just want to say I'm very surprised at how well this jazz mix is doing.

>>14228410
Hachama has the most originals

>>14228201
I think even in streamlabs Millie won but I'd have to doublecheck that.

>>14228115
Yes but that doesn't make as much sense as Millie wasn't the focus of the image, also this I guess >>14228112

>>14228447
Yeah, that’s one meta I assumed Hololive would do well: the “lofi girl” meta.
If they’re smart they’ll throw a 24/7 stream on the main channel, with superchat and comments open

>>14228178
>There are plenty of livers out there that has SOUL
That is true and thats why the nijifags switched to hololive in the late 2019/early 2020.

>>14228467
>I think even in streamlabs Millie won
November? Moona was mostly absent due to college reps to the point she almost had to bail on sportsfes

ENTER
NIJI GACHA

I wonder if they're finally gonna put up some fights with some card unboxing streams. All this monopoly is too comfy for my taste

Can she get above $15k??

I bet she'll be the weakest in ccv among holoX so i was hoping she'll atleast be decent in SCs.

>>14228209
I wonder what people would actually talk about if we did make a /talent/ thread

>>14228550
Numbers

Umm numberbros? Who is this random twitch vtuber and how did he get 200k viewers?

>>14228550
Damn it will be an all-out schizo fest.
Because unlike here where we have data, who is the most talented mostly depends on your own opinion

>>14228527
https://youtu.be/-EIID62u6OA
Pomu already attempted to go against the Holo card unboxing streams

>>14228550
It'd just be stupid slap fights of the "my chuuba can beat up your chuuba" variety

>>14228570
Raid by multiple big names I guess?

>>14228580
How did it go?

>>14228527
https://twitter.com/wstcg/status/1468075972922867712

>>14228503
>a 24/7 stream on the main channel, with superchat and comments open
that's the one thing that surprisingly about hololive. they don't try to milk their fans as much as possible. they only milk them during special events. I think that's why people don't see them as greedy and they are just a humble group. I do agree they should have a 24/7 stream of these musics though.

>>14228442
This tourney was such a shitshow. Shouldn't have invited preds and yes I know it was an esports company that coorganised it with Niji. I really wanted the JK-gumi team.

>>14228593
how long is it gonna take for them to sell out this time?

>>14228570
>>14228590
He is a member of dreamsmp, his numbers aren't that surprising in light of that.

>>14228570
He's not a rando. He's from Dream SMP. So yea, big boi.

>>14228619
I feel like Matsuri winning that just adds insults to injury

>>14228601
>that's why people don't see them as greedy
It wouldn’t be greedy, they could just say “superchat to support YuujinA/A-Chan”, give her the money after the cuts and it wouldn’t be any different for the rest of the streams

>>14228527
Is there gonna be some signed cards?

>>14228570
He's a member of dream SMP iirc. Not as big as Technoblade but still very big.

>>14228591
>>14228580
It peaked 3886, she streamed it for around 3hours
Decent for NijiEN Standards but it's not that big of a buff.

>>14228527
Vol.1 didnt sell that much doubt this one will

>>14228591
Pomu has super luck, pulling out signed cards left and right.

>>14228178
You know you'd probably get more traction if your argument isn't just "your chuubas are bad and you should feel bad for watching them"

>>14228442
Oh, I remember this. This was the tourney where Matsuri won it for ShibuyaHal cause Nijisanji tried to steal his content.

>>14228667
That reminds me, does Technoblade count as a vtuber? I mean he almost never shows his face and uses his Minecraft skin as an avatar.

>>14228683
No, he would be a pngtuber

>>14228655
I don't know about insult to injury. I think it was worse that Chihiro won since she was the one most responsible for organising it or something. Its been a while. Someone involved in organising and other shit shouldn't join the tourney. It would be ok if it was more for fun leaning.

>>14228656
I just think they don't have the culture of milking every penny out of their fans. they are really subscribed to the idea of "your support is enough if you can't financially contribute".

>>14228670
What about NijiJP? I doubt most ENfags are as crazy about this shit compared to JPs.
>>14228682
ShibuHal's content for tourneys are vtuber tourneys. Other people do tourneys, like CR, Fennel, etc but no big ones do solely vtubers except Hal.

>>14228656
>>14228601
The problem is Hololive doesn't have enough songs to go 24/7

How did Nijisanji go from this

>>14228593
https://twitter.com/souge2_WS/status/1468090041297960960

btw this time includes everybody, EN, ID, Gen6, even Azki is in

>>14228590
>>14228638
>>14228641
>>14228667
COPE AND SEETHE HOLOFAGGOTS
THE REAL GURA KILLER HAS ARRIVED
I KNEEL

>>14228601
>>14228656
Probably because they don't need to. I'll say it again, we put high importance on superchats because they are the most visible portion of their income, but superchats are a very small portion of the money they actually get by operating as a youtube streamer agency. You only nickle and dime your viewers if you're really that desperate that a few hundred dollars could mean the difference between having a home at the end of the month, it's otherwise just not worth it.

>>14228683
Nope as the other anon said a pngtuber.

>>14228746
Is this in a single day?

>>14228746
To this

>>14227489
>it takes only a single day to learn Kata and Hira
1. No one bothers to learn anyway
2. They still can't read names like 奈羅花

>>14228756
I mean. The entire Dream SMP combined would probably kill both Holo+Niji. Beware the mask.

>>14228739
We'll see.
It can win gold i guess but i doubt they can have win streak just because of it.

https://youtu.be/JlzSRlVS_HI

>>14228764
Month, Nijisanji only

>>14228767
The numbers are pretty much the same, what am I missing?

>>14228178
https://youtu.be/90WD_ats6eE

>>14228770
奈羅花 isn't katakana or hiragana tho

>>14228747
Oh boy time to see how high the ENs go for on the secondary market

>>14228747
>EN, ID, Gen6, even Azki is in
yeah, this one is gonna sell like hotcakes as well

>>14228767
>>14228785
It's all Kuzuha this year.
>>14228773
Different demographic entirely. They won't.

>>14228785
>>14228767
>all Kuzuha

>>14228785
Yes, but look at the names
From variety to mostly just Kuzuha

>>14228745
is it?

>>14228773
Technoblade and Dream alone have gotten 900k each, they already stomp both holo and niji and it's not even close. Hell, Technoblade's average is 250k.

>>14228178
I'm sure you were saying the same thing when Nijifags were on top and doing whatever they could to sabotage Hololive like trying to report them for playing games without permissions. What goes around comes around. Nijifags did this to themselves, they didn't build a good culture and they're paying the price for being insular, elitist cocksuckers with a chip on their shoulder.

>>14228503
>lofi girl
>didnt put iofi

>>14228786
https://youtu.be/1ST9TZBb9v8

>>14228638
>>14228641
>>14228667
Is Dream SMP another example of successful box pushing?

>>14228705
This
Even the girl constantly say so themselves "Put your well-being first. Don't bankrupt yourself trying to donate to us"
Even if your cynicism is saying it's just lip service, at least you have the sense that they truly care for their fan instead of, you know ... Treating them as waling ATM
Why do you think those "Twitch streamer vs Youtuber" vids were so famous back in the days?

>>14228830
that's because Iofi doesn't make music. A-chan is probably the creative director behind these remixes

>>14228794
Not kill as in take away their numbers. Kill as in beat them in popularity.

>>14228869
But they already are. >>14228820

>>14228601
>I do agree they should have a 24/7 stream of these musics though.
A lot of the people here have chuuba streams functioning as background noise, a 24/7 music stream would compete with that. Worse it could lower the numbers that make us coom

>>14228856
Yes, even more than holo to be honest. People were gaining more than a million subscribers every month when the server was particularly active.

>>14228820
Yep. Vtuberfags gotta remember they are niche.
>>14228856
Its like a mini popular KPOP band except minecraft streamers. Their fans be wild.

>>14228746
>>14228767
Creative bankruptcy. Nijisanji became complacent and shifted their content to lewd ones that's why the dodgeball offpako incedent and the recent lewd 3D happened. Their Minecraft streams are also very stale to watch for because their livers aren't really that creative compared with Holos.

>>14228880
??? Did you confuse my post with another? I did say they would beat them in popularity.

>>14228745
Nigga just put it in a loop

>>14228917
Like all that 3D shit they do like with the lotion and shit just made me realize how limiting being a vtuber is.

>>14228767
King ... His poor back ..

>>14228747
Oh, RIP stocks.
This shit is gonna get scalped to the overseas market so fucking hard if they don't get it out in the EN market fast.

https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1468076365509722119

>>14228767
Look how many times CR pops up in that list. Also are those Among Us streams the big collabs he participated in that involved traditional streamers/non-vtubers? I remember there were two he was a part of.

So Pekora with a second burger stream. What do you think will it match the previous in numbers (36k peak)?

>>14225920
why would they get striked?

>>14228853
https://youtu.be/B_K6z3HiRAs

>>14228663
I don't know maybe these RARE cards come out signed
>ChroNoiR(くろのわーる)(葛葉&叶)
>レバガチャ(笹木咲&社築&シェリン・バーガンディ)
>にじさんじレジスタンス(椎名唯華&花畑チャイカ)
>にじバラ(早瀬&イブラヒム)

>That english intro
Gen6 are serious about getting that kaigai audience aren't they

>>14229053
Hey ojisan, aren’t you too old to eat anime girl candy?

>>14229094
Possibly the same or higher.
It will have lots of overlap but they're no top holos.
Its her 2nd one though so it's not as special as the first one anymore.

>>14229200
LaPlus and Chloe seem really motivated to try and go after numbers. Chloe mentions subscribing so much.

>>14229185
The rarest signed cards (all signed in 2021 btw)
>Meiro and Roa
>Sasaki and NijiLuna

>>14229206
Anon, he is the fucking Peter Pan

>>14229244
>If you dont put it in their concience, the nips wouldnt subscibe, anon-kun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSlohLExQuk

Damn Cunny Loli is going to sing during her 1st monetization stream??
Sh can actually get Kronii SCs.

YO NIJIKEKS ANY STREAM ON YOUR SIDE CAN BEAT MION TOTSU OR NOT?

>>14229298
100k possible

>>14229322
People will be holding back for Chloe

>>14229293
Why do JPs find it so hard to subscribe compared to non-JPs? You don't even need to pay on youtube.

>>14229337
technologically not adept, I won't be surprise if most of viewers don't have youtube account.

>>14229308
They may not be able to beat irys

>>14229337
Only sub if you find them interesting so simple.

nene mogged
>nene mogged
nene mogged
>nene mogged
de gozaru

>>14229337
They don't even like videos for some reason
https://youtu.be/Qup2loWBnQ4
45k likes

https://youtu.be/3gJKr4OsaSw
26k likes with 300k more views

>>14229404
If this is true >>14229363 then they literally can't kek

clip vs clip

>>14229419
Its so weird

https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1468143316407447556?t=ew4v0X5dZVeJS7bcQ_sNSw&s=19
I.. i thought anon said selen is the face of nijiEN?

>>14229473
Merch gets planned months ahead so they were probably expecting Petra to be more popular than she turned out to be.

Fripside are becoming vtubers
>Inb4 who
They sung the rail gun song, amongst other things

>>14229515
Was Petra big in her PL?

>>14229515
so you're telling me niji bought the gura killer meme?

>>14229515
>they fell for the cunny meme

>>14229515
>they thought they had a Gura killer

>>14229524
you mean vsingers anon

>>14229524
wheres the number shill anon kun? or the link bitch

>>14229524
This just shows how vtuber slow and stedy taking over the JPmainstream

>>14229515
Stop trying to escape your fate, Apexsanji.

>>14229524
>During the fripSide Announcement Special livestream on October 31, 2021, Nanjō announced her retirement from fripSide. She will still perform with Yaginuma in a virtual concert on January 8, 2022, and at a concert tour the following April.
The Railgun singer also voice Shirabe from Symphogear and Eli from Love Live.

>20k gettto
>first 20k for today

>>14229266
>Meiro and Roa
>signed in 2021
Wait how?

>>14229589
Concert on January 8
https://mxj.myanimelist.net/live/fripside_virtual_live/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcHcy4JevwM

>>14229632
she's just saying 'gotzaru' over and over again. I'm a holofag but the fact that she gets more viewers than nene baffles me

>>14228792
Now I see that this thread is not only crippled in japanese, but with reading comprehension as well.

>>14229266
>Meiro and Roa
>Moruru
>signed in 2021
What the fuck?

>>14229664
maybe nene should bring aru back

>>14229664
She's cute

>>14229668
>it takes only a single day to learn Kata and Hira
>2. They still can't read names like 奈羅花

>>14229664
>I'm a holofag
sure you are
captcha: wvKYS

>>14229664
go-za-ruuu

>>14229677
>>14229664
What is Nene's strong gimmick btw?

>>14229664
Nene is good and cute but i like Iroha better

>>14229677
They actually is a difference. Gozaru is fine because nippon, aru is usually used by Chinese stereotypes in JP.

>>14229714
I'll never forgive the Chinese

>>14229709
Being a chink i guess

>>14229709
Husbands+seal+cute and not lewd despite sexy avatar body.

>>14229709
Being a cute retard

>>14229664
>I'm a holofag
How do you do my fellow hololive fans?

>are nene and gozaru the only one streaming now?

>>14225540
HEY MOONA MINECRAFT STREAM COME ON!!!

https://youtu.be/dK5ogulY2XM
prediction?
28k for me

>>14229781
30k ez

>>14229515
>fell for the cunny meme
PRESS D TO DAB AT NIJIEN MANAGERS

I reaaaally like Iroha's model.

>>14229434
>pamomi
we know he's an indog right? recently he clips more of Gen6, EN, and ollie. and it all got decent numbers too. before, he is more likely to clips more ID than EN, and only got decent numbers sometimes. do you think this make some clipper to change their course?

>>14229298
>already going for the poorfag angle
She's going to get a lot of SCs

>>14229515
>>14229794
Did the niji intern create the gura killer meme

>>14229780
GO AWAY, stop trying to leech on the KingSlayer

>>14229473
Isn't this a big kick in the face for Finana?

>>14229781
that 21 jst slot is death incarnate.. Miko with unboxing, La+ radio, Subaru Pokemon, Botan Pokemon, Kanata talk and then to top it off Pekora with a burger eating stream. Miko 28k is possible I guess since it's a card unboxing. Pekora will have a hard time matching her previous burger stream.

>>14229515
Another L for Anyafags

>>14229781
She'll overlap with Pekora's Stream.
Bunny beat the shit out of event-overlapping baby.

>>14229857
Anya got physical merch.

>>14229825
Wouldn't be surprising considering the kind of people running their reddit and threads on here.

>>14229781
35k

>>14229473
>management already playing favorites
OH NO NO NO NO NO BLACK COMPANY

Someone should make a gozaru counter for Iroha or do a gozaru in jump king compilation.

>>14229473
>The fish joked about Petra's nepotism
>Got replace by Petra
Rumao

>>14228747
Wait am I reading this right? I made these an expo exclusive to start? If it’s an event exclusive oh boy it could get ugly

>>14229664
>I'm a holofag
Why do you have to qualify your statements like that, niji friend?

https://tokyoesportsfesta.jp/esports.html

>>14229914
It may just be alt art cards or something.

>>14229677
>>14229714

NOW, BEFORE ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING FUNNY
Nene's "Aru" was because she wants to speak like Karuga from Gintama, not just because she used to have a Chinese girl avatar

>>14229920
>We will hold the following 6 competitions that everyone from children to the elderly can enjoy
Esports??

>>14229094
40k for the second burger stream because why not. Her moaning are good to hear(reminds me a bit of Food Wars), the nousagis know that much from the first burger stream.

>>14229968
But Kagura is Chinese-styled as well. She's a 'China girl'.

>>14229928
Event exclusive signed alt art cards could pump prices sky high. Some of the most insanely priced Pokémon cards are event/contest/tournament exclusives.

>>14229693
yes. "even if they learn kana, they still can't read kanji."

>>14229920
>Kohaku
Rare to see another selejo member besides Chigusa. What exactly does a cheer captain do in this context?

>>14229992
Would be hilarious, but I doubt it. Can't remember how contested the last stream was but this one is pretty contested. If she beats 30k I will consider it a win.

>>14229920
the nijis are cheerleaders? the fuck does that mean

Astel has 1k waiting 1 hr before the stream.

>>14230008
Yea, why even bring up kanji if you already know they won't learn hira and kana?
>1. No one bothers to learn anyway

>>14230046
Astel gonna mog Mio and put grandma in her place. Ollie's gonna be in his chat boosting that shit even further les go.

>>14230005
So, if people want a chance to get those money cards, they need to buy tickets for the expo?

>>14229992
I would kneel if she fucking breaks 40k. There's no shot.

>>14229664
Nobody complained when Kanata was just saying dedenne. It's just that kind of game

>>14230066
> Ollie boosting

>>14229737
Isn't Nene a bear?

>Mio totsu
>HoloX gartic phone
>Peko Burger
>RushiMari late
Who would win?

>>14229920
Kek, get fucked Holofaggots
>>14229914
Bushiroad does release event only merch for a while but they do release them for the public eventually.
Think of it more as event goers get to buy first.
The scalpers market will be crazy until the eventual public release

>>14230045
Cheerleading for their teams I guess. By the way Pro Yakyuu Spirits is one of the biggest moneymaker gacha games in Japan.

>>14229832
Wait they both are king slayers! What kind of shit are they going to do if they ever get together? Company Demolisher?

>>14230097
Probably HoloX. They are unbeatable for now

>>14230094
S-Stop laughing anon, thats a plus 10 in ccv...

kek, you can see Iroha's viewers tapping in and out depending on where she is

>>14229904
>The fish joked about Petra's nepotism
Source?

>>14230046
>Koyori only 2k 10 minutes before her stream
Astellas, Homobros, THIS IS IT

>>14230110

>>14230132
Anon.. Please.. I can't breath...

Remember Gwelu's drama yesterday? His project got cancelled.
https://twitter.com/Gwelu_os_gar/status/1467965636978823168

So which game give more buff? Pokemon or Minecraft?

>>14230096
Seal and Husbands are her most famous memes

>14230106
Lol and nijifags are saying this is a hololive hugbox
>>14226879
>>14226769
Nijifags are just as toxic when they see something they "won" against

>>14230228
Pokemon is almost a debuff on EN so minecraft.

>>14230223
He shouldn't have shit talked the king.

>>14230223
double standard from niji management?

>>14230223
Management didn't like his little stunt

>>14230223
>cancelled because of a slight mistake
Wow, what a black company. Imagine supporting nijisanji

>>14230223
>creative freedom
>Better management

>>14230223
Gwelu Graduation when?

>>14230223
roru, how dare this nigger shit talk silver king
you got what you deserved buff demiurg

>>14230223
What was the project and drama? I don't follow nijis much.

>>14230223
What is his project about?

>>14230241
Cope ensharts

>>14230419
Nijicuck please.

Koyori 10k

>>14230223
waiting till he goes full menhera and spit how shitty is management

>>14230223
Is this actually connected, though? Because if it is, isn't it like really fucked up? He didn't even say anything controversial, it was basically just a joke video.

>24.9k peak
>Koyori already started
AHHHHHHHHHHH
Just a little bit more...

>>14230458
Well, the video got taken down too if I'm not mistaken.

>>14230472
Iroha only lost like 2k when koyori started. Not bad.

>>14230472
not today ninja

>>14230481
What the fuck. Anycara could've just made them apologize, if they thought it was such a big deal.

did the website change in the last minute or am I tripping?

>>14230359
>silver king
yeah, I don't know about that one anymore. he got beat by fucking Moona. Moona!

>>14230565
He also got beat by Fauna

>>14230382
>>14230412
iirc, he wants to stream with random fans while the voice chat is open.

>>14230585
OK, that actually understandable, then. That's like explicitly against the rules, also, it's a retarded idea.

>>14230223
What was his project?

>>14226967
Fun fact, that Issei Kai Ch at 145 viewers there was playing B4B with Treerat and Ollie plus some other nobody, neither of which streamed it.

>>14230630
Even so, cancelling his project as punishment is too much.

>>14230565
He also got beat by Mel

>>14230382
>>14230412
>>14230640
No one watched nijisanji in this thread.

>>14230630
>That's like explicitly against the rules
It's not though. The actual rule was kinda vague which led up to this incident. That's why he used Kuzuha in jest that if the person he collabed with became a streamer, it should be fine since Kuzuha wasn't penalized.

We don't watch streams
We watch numbers

Anybody have the measurements of koyori's hand?

>>14230551
Yep. Just Ctrl+F5 (or Cmd+R for macfags) for it to reload fresh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJqecEh7kkA

Agua ...

>>14230672
I wouldn't visit this thread if I were a Nijifag, especially when the competition is mogging my company so hard.

>>14230727
not as large as pekora's

>>14230672
>No one watched nijisanji
OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHA
>he thinks people in this thread watch streams

Here is the greatest of all ironies: there is no place in this whole board more likely to have 2 view watchers that only pay attention to **the numbers** of mainstream streamers without actually paying attention to their streams.

>>14230458
It got taken down because it blew up into a big twitter flame war on the nip side because he namedropped Kuzuha and we all know what his fans are like

Numberfags, any of you have the numbers for the 3rd gen starting streams? I'm wondering what kind of audience Hololive as a brand had at the time.

>>14230551
Oh. They added chat speed graphs. Neat. It also splits....member messages and normal ones. Hm.

>>14230840
As in the first stream after debut?

Koyori 20k Get

>>14230840
Sadly I don't, because Holostats only goes back till Jul 2020.
There is a table of "mean average of peak CCV" going back all the way back then tho, it could clue you in

>>14230839
Yeah what ive noticed so far is that Rushia has EN levels of chat messages

how many days/weeks before La+ passing Kronii subs numberbros?

>>14230896
That's because chat interaction is her MO.

>>14230223
Nijibros ...

>>14225540
>Sudden karaoke
So not only king got beaten by an ID it also an ID's guerilla stream.

>>14230382
>>14230412
Basically he had this project that relied on viewer participation. This was previously played by management as long as there was a 24 hour delay. But then apparently management changed their mind or something and so the project had to privated.
Gwelu then had the great idea that went something like this: Kuzuha did a bunch of collabs with two view indies with no issues from management. If those viewers were to become streamers, they would then be technically okay to be featured on stream, and therefore he would be able to unprivate his video. So that video that was posted yesterday was him and noraneko trying to convince the people who showed up in his voice chat to become streamers, so he could get his video back. You know, as one big joke.
The issue was, no one, not even other nijis knew exactly what the rule was that was broken that caused the original video to be privated in the first place. So there was alot of confusion and handwringing by certain nijis, most notable Kanae who does quite abit of vc during his apex streams over if this is a new rule and he'd be forced to give that up going forward. On top of which, he specifically namedropped Kuzuha in a sort of tongue in cheek way of "if management still refuses to let me unprivate my video after you become streamers, I can accuse them of giving unfair treatment to Kuzuha" and that really pissed Kuzuha's fans, resulting in the rolling shit storm that eventually got the entire video privated and Gwelu pulling out.

TLDR its yet another example of nijifags eating themselves

Iroha got 2k subs so far during this stream

>>14231064
if this is true, then niji management is shooting themselves in the foot again and hololive wins by doing absolutely nothing. viewer participation events will always yield good numbers and feedback from the community. what the fuck are they thinking?

>>14231064
Kek. So that's why Nijifags are desperate for Holofags to turn on each other.

They're jealous of so much unity. Kinda sad.

>>14231064
You seem too knowledgeable about this topic for not being a nijifag, anon.

>>14230428
Enshart trying to misdirect it to nijiniggers again, as always kek

>>14231064
Why does Nijisanji have so much internal drama?
>>14231075
I think Hololive does not like VC for random strangers as well though. Pekora had to tell a participant to shut up once during a PUBG(?) stream.

>>14231143
I mean, there's nothing wrong with having someone who can provide information and context here, and it is most appreciated. Nijifans, are welcome, nijiniggers and nijifags are not. I do wish people would be a biiiiiit more civil here, but eh, it's 4chan, what can you do except ignore the blatant shitposts?

>>14231064
Kek sounds like Gwelu had a brain fart moment.

>>14231128
Someone played porn in the background onetime during hima and lulu collab with VC and now they ban it.

>>14231175
Pretty sure it's really only Matsuri that's gotten away with it on the regular, but well, it's Matsuri. Management likely discourages it due to yab risk, but it doesn't seem like there's a hard rule against it (It's just smarter not to invite the potential for an idiot on VC to cause problems for most)

>>14230908
At her current pace it would be somewhere between ten to twelve days, but I'm not sure if she will keep this pace. If I had to guess it would be close to the end of the month.

>>14230840
Debut is pic related. If its this >>14230861 then somebody else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGtYBmWsVG4
40k possible?

>>14231064
Thanks for the info

>>14231128
>that really pissed Kuzuha's fans
Maybe this is one of the main reason

>>14231143
I looked into it last night after that anon posted the link to see if it's actual drama or just plain bullshit, and let me tell you nip twitter flame wars are a pain in the ass to parse, especially when you aren't familiar with the names of half the people involved in it.