/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14180171
Well she just said it herself
>i see gen 6 debut and i wanna do my best too
Meaning
>Fuck i gotta stream or lose my gachi to those fucking newbies

Lui...

I'm calling this a 60K.

>>14180325
>31:31 [EN][TL/英語] "I thought of getting different colours pokemons right at the start" (tl note - I know absolutely nothing about pokemon help)
Oujo ...

>>14180325
kek, she's not wrong. With that said, some nips were comparing Ayame to "luxury goods", meaning ehr value actually INCREASES the less she streams.
>they're not wrong

>>14180348
No, fuck off, we don't do round up here

>>14180348
kek, the manlet of the 60k
>59,998

>>14180348
Sorry cunt the number don't give a fuck what you say. No 60k

>>14180374
hit 60k on my screen so im calling it 60k

>>14180234
WHO WOULD WIN?
>One humble man, plying his trade on YT for years, gaming and making videos
>A smol shark who started things off with 'A'
The ANSWER will SHOCK YOU, MAKE YOU RAGE, AND LEAVE YOUR FACE LOOKING LIKE A RHOMBUS!

>>14180356
I have a theory that Ayame being luxury good only worked pre holo x. But since Chloe has a very close overlap to Ayame looks and appeal wise, this might not work anymore
I'm ready to kneel if Ojou manages to blow my theory out.

>Orca stops Ayame from getting the 60k
Our savior!

>>14180348
had seen 60006 on my end

So today's gold is Ayame?

LuiChloe let's fucking go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>14180450
Wait for Chloe to bring the big numbers to Lui, the real 60k is going to happen no that fake shit 59998

>>14180408
hit 80k on my screen, tho

>>14180450
Will Ayame go for another hour? If she stops Orca will get the funnel

Im just gonna put this here

>>14180504
now your just being a retard.

>>14180507
Orca is collabing in lui-nee's channel. That could be a debuff.

>>14180419
The value of luxury goods is highly dependent on people's perception of the prestige associated with such good, and that can be a very fickle thing. Still, ojou is not in danger of being forgotten. She'll always have a sizable following of gachis with sizable and generous wallets waiting for her, even if the general masses stop seeing her as some sparkling incarnation of cuteness.

why do we have two active numbers thread?

>>14180546
Its already siphoning off Ayames viewers

>bird and some type of killer
>takamata
>oh no
30k get!

>>14180533
If I wasn't late, she would've gotten 59999.

>>14180576
its a race anon.

>>14180600
This whale killer is too strong.

Chloe and Lui still slowly inclining. Wrap it up you dumb Oni.

>>14180672
Sorry kohai's She needs more akasupas for condom and league addiction.

>>14180711
BASED AYAME DRAINING HER KOHAI FROM THEIR ENERGY!

Who would win?

>Tens of female streamers begging for donations on twitch with incentives of dancing and writing their name on a board or their body
>One cute anime girl

The answer will surprise you

>>14180600
60k ez. Nothing is going to beat the Numbers Gen, even Gen 3 is getting sarced of the numbers their pulling, once Chloe slays Gura and be comes the most subbed vtuber everyone will be forced to kneel or be striking down!

Moona sugoi...

Ngl, the cynical in me feels like people tuned in to see if Ayame would graduate, but then fuck off when they realized that she won't

>>14180576
So we can numberfag about numberfagging.

>>14180795
Moona aiming to beat orca en karaoke numbers?

>>14180754
Ayame stayed so long without streaming Playboard didn't pick this stream up
https://playboard.co/en/video/2xwmZMqMup8

These gooks will get an earful from her

>>14180374
>>14180384
>>14180398
get fucked retards lmao

>>14180795
Damn, ID getting 8k with 2 giants around.
Impressive.

>>14180794
If Marine ends its over for Ayame. The only thing stopping her from 60k is Marine and Ayame holding 70k viewers hostage

>>14180855
This is why it's good we have multiple sites to track data, so we DO get peaks that sometimes would otherwise get missed.

>>14180855
kek, thanks based live-ranking

>37k
>ez

>>14180855
Ayamefag has a lot of pent up anger over being the boards punching bag for the past 2 months. Don't worry bro once Oni has her birthday the count will start up again

>>14180863
>Her monthly median is 56000
kek

>>14180965
At least JOPs agree

Ayame and Lui's stream both died at the same time lmao

>>14180855
Rigged! Recount I never saw 60k get! CHLOE AND LUI GET THE GOLD FUCK AYAME THE WHORE!

susan just died

youtube killed everyone..........

It's not anything special but holy fuck I'm kneeling

>Ayame got susan'ed for illegal activity
>Stream offline
Chloe: Observe...

WATAAAAMAAAAGEEEEEEEEE!

>>14181083

wtf chloe?

>>14181082
>Chloe Lui get SUSAN'd
>Moona just keeps on singing.

>>14180965
Holy shit. Pekora who?

>>14181082
Loyal fags deserve a medal

CAM ON MOONA HIT THAT 10K

Give it up you fucks other thread is faster >>14180289

>>14180965
Gozaru had 170K last month, Ayame who?

>>14181082
So food for thought, I've seen singers grinding in schools, bars, events, weddings etc but in the end, it's paltry recognition. How much is Moon worth technically singing to 10k people as compared to those who actually want to be singers as a job?

HOLY SHIT! Is this the first time for Moona on a utau stream?

So that’s why she came back, to shill merch kek

>>14181286
>AND AAAAAIEEEEEEE WILLLL ALWAYS LOVE YOUUUUUUU~~

>>14181274
Many singers would literally KILL to be in Moona's position. To have 10k people watching you singing Live? Like, good lord to many of those grinding like that looking for their 'big break', Holomem singing even to 4-5k on the regular would make them consider very drastic actions.

>>14181274
Oh man if you are signing at weddings you aren’t even Mori roommate tier, who was just barely getting to the level where she could live a poorfag existence being a full time musician before she joined Hololive. Moona makes more than a neurosurgeon does in her home country. 10,000 ccv is a distant dream to the type of people you are taking about. So is 100 honestly. Reference Twitchpayouts for some general income relative to ccv stats and remember not to let the insane numbers thrown around here rot your Brian too bad

Moona is doing her own version of box push for reine

>>14181482
Okay I got moved to Reine's new OG song kek

>>14181274
That's Top of National level number

Looks like the new recruits couldn't defeat Ojou after all.

>LUI-NEEEEE GET EVERYONE TO COLLAB NOW!!

Kuzuha bros... it's over.

>>14181671
Fucking Ayame, one day somebody will stop her. One day.

>>14181390
>>14181434
>>14181582
So this is numberrot kicking in again huh

>>14181740
Beaten by an ID…

>>14181740
king...

Suisei is mogging migo..

>>14181780
Beaten by Mel, Fauna, and now Moona. What is next, he's going to be beaten by a fucking star?

>>14181274
Anon, most stadiums are in the 1-3k range territory, and getting to perform at one of those venues is considered the highpoint of most musician's careers, if they make it there at all. 10k is literally outside the reach of 99% of all musicians.

>>14181920
That’d be funny as fuck.

>>14181753
Unironically yes.
Also you have to understand just how many people try to get into music. For many, it forever remains a side job and they'll never perform to an audience bigger than 50-100 people. That's why the vsingers who can already pull 5 digits or more are absolutely MASSIVE, relatively speaking.

>>14181741
To do that... Anon... You must... Subcwaibu...

>>14181920
>>14181960
Cough it'd be good if Astel gets a win against Kuzuha tomorrow

>>14181920
Astel 3d in 15mins
let us not jinx the king

>>14181991
Oh man, imagine the seethe ...

>>14181948
>>14181975
What about twitch singers?

>>14181753
> is 10k ccv any good? That’s the same as garage bands playing bars and weddings right?

The fuck is wrong with people? Kiara’s 5k ccv makes her a colossus that strides the earth and Pekora is fucking Zeus compared to mere mortals struggling to make it in creative fields.

>>14182005
No that's just him having a zatsu before his 3d.
I admit it'd be pretty funny though

>>14182005
That was today? For some reason I thought it was during the weekend.

>>14181991
i don't think i am ready for that kind of shitposting

>>14182018
I'll be honest, I have no idea what the numbers for singers on Twitch look like, but I'd wager it'd be much the same. Being able to perform live in front of 4 digit+ is already far, far more than what most people could ever HOPE to be able to do in their lifetimes. Let that settle in before we start doomposting about chubbas getting 'only' a few thousand when they do Karaoke streams. (that goes for ALL chubbas, not just those in Niji and Hololive).

Okay, back to BIG NUMBERS, Suisei pulling out 20k like its nothing.

>>14182018 (me)
Oh fuck no... Twitch can't sing copyrighted songs. Hololive has nextone or non hellish copyright system to take advantage.

>>14182127
It's because Twitch's system is different than YTs.
The fact that, if the holomem is willing to do unarchived, they can sing most things is one of the things that is frankly pretty nice for them. This is also where getting official permissions for singing songs helps. All the songs that Holomem sing on the regular for archived streams, they've either got rights to sing or have blanket perms iirc.

>+1 ayame
The numberrot... I'm just gonna save myself and say that Hololive already dominates streaming in the east or is part of the top. It's a monday night for fuck sake. Are you telling me their entertainment level is on par with news and tourneys?

>>14182018
JPvtuber in general is more lax with their copyright since most the popular songs they sang came from voca-p and famous utaites. And it's easier to get their permission since chuubas are just another sub-culture of Vocaloid, same as utaites

>gold with 60K
>862 new members
>2.4M in SC
>still counting
Kneel.

>>14182244
Uh Yep.
I've been saying as much whenever the discussion comes up as to how 'BIG' Hololive is in the JP timeslot.
It's literally only Jun/DHC/Strawberry faggots I can think of that the get Routinely beat by nowadays. We're reaching terminal numberrot here boys and gals.
EN isn't doing as well relative to the JP branch, but that topic's been timelooped to hell and back (It's not like they're doing TERRIBLE, and they help with the Hololive Ecosystem)

>>14182315
literally can't stop winning

Strong number right now. 150+ccv combine????

>>14182252
no, I mean, that's part of it, but in Japan, there's an organization called JASRAC that regulates music, anyone can submit their songs to it, and once it's in the database anyone else can seek permission to cover them for a small fee without having to deal with the original creator. It massively simplifies things for cover and the reason why getting english songs permissions is such a nightmare is because there's no equilvalent system in the west

>>14182369
150k*

>>14182408
168k before Marine ended

>>14182370
Indeed.
Let me remind you exactly what kind of hell they had to go through to cover Country Roads...

>>14182464
Are we still in tourists mode or what the hell is this???? If so gen 6 capture a lot of fish.

>>14182492
Damn! There's nothing like this >>14182370 in the west? Burgerland?

>>14182537
Renewed interest in Hololive from Gen 6 I guess?
>>14182559
American music industry would NEVER allow something like this to happen.

>>14182537
>>14182464
God I hope astel's 3D tomorrow gets super buffed as well

>>14182597
Definitely renewed interest, and also yes the American music industry would rather kill several babies than EVER let an org like that be formed.

>>14182596

>179k total ccv
retarded level

What are the chances that by next year after coof restrictions on the borders is over, instead of just Myth, council would join in to have a 3D debut? Maybe in the Summer of Japan, all EN members will do a 3D debut every week starting from Mori and Irys since they already did reps for their debuts, the others would have a chance to practice before their debut after they arrive on Japan which means for a total of 2 months, 9 EN members will stay in Japan for a 3D debut.

>>14182751
Tower ...

>>14182492
and remember, even after going through all that they earn zero (0) money from it. They basically did the equivalent of pooling a bunch of money together and setting fire to it.

Uh, are nijis doing anything today? Because the top 10 is all holos right now and you need 22K to enter it.

>>14182763
That might be a bit much, EN hours would be fucked for streaming, and spreading out the 2 gen debuts would probably be better for SC earnings and for keeping hype spread out instead of blowing it all in one go.

>>14182751
>All thanks to me

>>14182315
damn, Cover pocketing about 800K Yen from one stream alone

>pekora bullying the new recruits into bronze

>>14181740
Beaten by an indog. It's over...

>>14182987
Eh, just watch him pull out another RE stream and he'll get 20k+ for today to wash away the shame.

37 streams on niji, only 2 above 6k

>>14182763
Do it per month is better. Starting with ID1+IRyS, then next 3months with Myth and ID2, 2months break, Council, HoloX, a month break, ID3, and BOOM! close it with HoloExpo!

>>14182559
there is, you can license most US releases through the harry fox agency. the backing track is similar to how JP does it, either you make your own or license an existing recording.
other vsingers put out popular english song covers. it's just cover being extra cautious or the john denver estate trustee is a real dick.

>>14183269
>harry fox agency
Too bad for them, they tasted bad dick as their first time. So they aren't likely to go for english songs again unless Myth speaks up that there's a JASRAC equivalent in America. At least try and see first.

>>14183322
i'm leaning more on cover being extra cautious. haachama's cover of shape of you i believe is 100% legal. iirc, if you get content id flagged and it's set to do revenue share, it usually means yt has umbrella license from the publisher. cover still took it down (right before myth' country roads release). probably didn't want to risk it after learning how to get explicit license.

Even if it's legal with contentID and all, they still run the risk of copyright strikes maybe it's because they're a JP company. I think it's in the same realm as Holocaust where a legit company can profit from other works but an indie could because no company would waste time on an individual

Starting to believe Youtube has some kind of nerf on Mel's viewer numbers. Her chat was moving way too fast for a mere 1200 watching and now got 1800 watching with 3500 likes?

I know the bots are culling subscribers hard for EN2 and JP6, but can they actively cull viewer numbers during an ongoing live stream if they channel has been marked before (as Mel's has numerously due to BANpire)...

Any way to compare twitter space number? Also it's an easy way to trend worldwide LA+ is #2 right now.

>>14186448
https://spaces.bz/ranking/weekly

>>14184766
Susan just hate Mel particularly cause she is a hot and popular. Mel remains her or her highschool bullies

Orca Stream soon!

>>14180289
Actual previous thread

Here is something to help numberfags with their nihon reps
>these 100 kanji make for more than 50% of the kanji used in Hololive stream titles

The format is
> ranking :: number of incidences :: kanji

Here is the top 20
1) 2984 :: 生
2) 2012 :: 歌
3) 1990 :: 白
4) 1779 :: 談
5) 1775 :: 雑
6) 1717 :: 日
7) 1519 :: 天
8) 1472 :: 大
9) 1457 :: 枠
10) 1326 :: 人
11) 1302 :: 初
12) 1164 :: 期
13) 1161 :: 上
14) 1116 :: 月
15) 1089 :: 知
16) 1049 :: 夜
17) 1035 :: 花
18) 1029 :: 子
19) 1027 :: 朝
20) 1019 :: 活

That's from Holostats only, later I may do for Mado and Nijisanji and also the comparison between both companies.

Next: most common 2 kanji ngrams

>>14188314
Here is for digrams (pic related)
Format is
>ranking) streams :: digram (meaning)

Here is the list
>1) 1537 :: 雑談 (talk)
>2) 1066 :: 期生 (generation)
>3) 923 :: 歌枠 (Song frame)
>4) 813 :: 不知 (Flare's name)
>5) 813 :: 知火 (Flare's name)
>6) 812 :: 白上 (Shirakami)
>7) 759 :: 角巻 (Tsunomaki)
>8) 742 :: 兎田 (Usada)
>9) 661 :: 天音 (Amane)
>10) 647 :: 姫森 (Himemori)
>11) 646 :: 宝鐘 (Houshou)
>12) 615 :: 夏色 (Natsuiro)
>13) 588 :: 白銀 (Shirogane)
>14) 569 :: 夕刻 (Roberu Name)
>15) 549 :: 桐生 (Kiryu)
>16) 547 :: 常闇 (Towa name)
>17) 525 :: 天真 (Temma name)
>18) 518 :: 配信 ("Delivery" (stream))
>19) 502 :: 岸堂 (Temma name)
>20) 501 :: 堂天 (Temma name)
>21) 499 :: 放送 ("Broadcast" (stream))
>22) 483 :: 朝活 (Morning activity)

>1) 1537 :: 雑談 (talk)
>2) 1066 :: 期生 (generation)
>3) 923 :: 歌枠 (Song frame)
>4) 813 :: 不知 (Flare's name)
>5) 813 :: 知火 (Flare's name)
>6) 812 :: 白上 (Shirakami)
>7) 759 :: 角巻 (Tsunomaki)
>8) 742 :: 兎田 (Usada)
>9) 661 :: 天音 (Amane)
>10) 647 :: 姫森 (Himemori)
>11) 646 :: 宝鐘 (Houshou)
>12) 615 :: 夏色 (Natsuiro)
>13) 588 :: 白銀 (Shirogane)
>14) 569 :: 夕刻 (Roberu Name)
>15) 549 :: 桐生 (Kiryu)
>16) 547 :: 常闇 (Towa name)
>17) 525 :: 天真 (Temma name)
>18) 518 :: 配信 ("Delivery" (stream))
>19) 502 :: 岸堂 (Temma name)
>20) 501 :: 堂天 (Temma name)
>21) 499 :: 放送 ("Broadcast" (stream))
>22) 483 :: 朝活 (Morning activity)

>>14188314
Here is for digrams (pic related)
Format is
>ranking) streams :: digram (meaning)

Here is the list
>1) 1537 :: 雑談 (talk)
>2) 1066 :: 期生 (generation)
>3) 923 :: 歌枠 (Song frame)
>4) 813 :: 不知 (Flare's name)
>5) 813 :: 知火 (Flare's name)
>6) 812 :: 白上 (Shirakami)
>7) 759 :: 角巻 (Tsunomaki)
>8) 742 :: 兎田 (Usada)
>9) 661 :: 天音 (Amane)
>10) 647 :: 姫森 (Himemori)
>11) 646 :: 宝鐘 (Houshou)
>12) 615 :: 夏色 (Natsuiro)
>13) 588 :: 白銀 (Shirogane)
>14) 569 :: 夕刻 (Roberu Name)
>15) 549 :: 桐生 (Kiryu)
>16) 547 :: 常闇 (Towa name)
>17) 525 :: 天真 (Temma name)
>18) 518 :: 配信 ("Delivery" (stream))
>19) 502 :: 岸堂 (Temma name)
>20) 501 :: 堂天 (Temma name)
>21) 499 :: 放送 ("Broadcast" (stream))
>22) 483 :: 朝活 (Morning activity)

I guess we continue here? No need for a new thread.

>>14189024
I fucking hope it isn't the outfit. It probably will be a worse outcome than an outright cancellation.

>>14188314
Here is for digrams (pic related)
Format is
>ranking) streams :: digram (meaning)

Here is the list
>1) 1537 :: 雑談 (talk)
>2) 1066 :: 期生 (generation)
>3) 923 :: 歌枠 (Song frame)
>4) 813 :: 不知 (Flare's name)
>5) 813 :: 知火 (Flare's name)
>6) 812 :: 白上 (Shirakami)
>7) 759 :: 角巻 (Tsunomaki)
>8) 742 :: 兎田 (Usada)
>9) 661 :: 天音 (Amane)
>10) 647 :: 姫森 (Himemori)
>11) 646 :: 宝鐘 (Houshou)
>12) 615 :: 夏色 (Natsuiro)
>13) 588 :: 白銀 (Shirogane)
>14) 569 :: 夕刻 (Roberu Name)
>15) 549 :: 桐生 (Kiryu)
>16) 547 :: 常闇 (Towa name)
>17) 525 :: 天真 (Temma name)
>18) 518 :: 配信 ("Delivery" (stream))
>19) 502 :: 岸堂 (Temma name)
>20) 501 :: 堂天 (Temma name)
>21) 499 :: 放送 ("Broadcast" (stream))
>22) 483 :: 朝活 (Morning activity)

>>14189038
>>14189092
Anonchama...

>>14188968
>another delay will only kill the hype more
I don't think so, it will cause anger for sure, but the scarcity of it will just pull more demand(i.e PekoMari and PekoMiko)

>>14189181
SHUSH!

Chloe with 14k starting. The hype sure is dying but still pretty goof numbers for 1:30 AM.

I swear if that one schizo shows up, I'm blaming OP

>>14189031
Sana is possible too. Pekora praised both Sana and Baelz equally but it does feel like she talk about Sana more
https://youtu.be/n26KP49kxZg
Also Holorodents is more of a Risu meme idea

>>14189287
bLARRHAH RHEDIT DUCK BAPRLKARH

>>14189297
There is also some possibility in others, she mentioned back in summer that she wanted to improve her english to have more en collabs. I wouldn't say she flaunts any improved english, but it might be enough for a kino english collab or something.

>>14189376
As long as it's not kiara it will be good for numbers.

Who will challenge pekora in total watch hours next year for holo?

>>14189191
While that's true, I believe there is a limit to delay hype, after a certain point, people will start feeling frustrated instead of hyping.
But not like I know much about the way people think so don't take that to seriously. I just think that they shouldn't delay the outfit just for the sake of building hype, it can backfired

>>14188968
You don't seem to know just how much the Nousagis have been waiting for that damn outfit. 150k viewers would easily be reachable. Remember the hype that got around her talking to PekoMama on stream, which got her a neat 129.6k viewers?
Imagine now something that we have been waiting for since February 2020.

>>14189376
Ironically she did make a rule for herself to use English as much as she can on EN server to show some respect, but every EN who approached her just use Japanese to talk anyway so she didn't have a chance to do it

>>14189409
>I just think that they shouldn't delay the outfit just for the sake of building hype, it can backfired
It's already backfiring, since some nousagi's are just spamming the apology message of cover in their twitter every time there is a new holo outfit reveal.

>>14189402
Maybe Chloe, I don't see anyone else even putting up a fight to be honest. Maybe Subaru if her incline continues?

>>14189479
Let's hope they actually delayed it for a legit technical reason or something and not just for building hype

>>14189409
Even for the Shion outfit announcement there were comments saying "That's great! Where's Pekora's?"

>>14189402
>Pekora literally have twice as much watch hour as the 2nd place
Jesus

>>14189409
>>14189479
Why was it delayed anyway? And how can pekora doesnt have any other fits outside of her yukata and prisoner one?

So Chloe as reached 563k subs she finally reached Kronii and will pass her by the end of the day

>>14189582
>day
stream

Nousagis are both more conceited and more retarded than their oshi and that's really something.

>>14189402
I think there should be a thing called the "Ayame line".

Any streamers with more than 50% streams over Ayame (meaning 70 streams in that table) but still trailing her in hours watched is "below the Ayame line".
Matsuri is cutting really close, I tell you

>>14189605
Go to sleep

>>14189402
If Pekora keeps the same pace she's doing I can't see anyone really challenge her. Fubuki can as she's showing right now, but she does what she wants so it all depends if those streams turns into stuff like magikarp fishing. The only one from the new gen who keeps pace currently is Chloe, but she has three issues. 1. Debut buff skewes the numbers, 2. Many streams with different ccv potential debuffs her average output, 3. She hasn't shown that she can stream for long hours. So far her longest stream is 2 hours 30 minutes something.

Unless something changes in Pekoras ccv averages, output or another talent has a massive increase I don't see her being challenged.

>>14189579
No one know. Beside the Cover apology, both Pekora and Cover have been awfully quiet about it
The situation wouldn't be as bad if they give an update or 2 or explain the reason behind the delay, but they just stay silent. There's a lot of things that doesn't seem to add up

>Nijisisters too shocked by today's moggings are BACK into trash talking fandoms, trying to put Holo against Holo to distract from the subject matter of this thread: numbers

>>14189579
good question anon, too bad we will never know, and that outfit was suppose to go along with the 3rd gen's 2nd outfit.
Fast forward a year later and Marine is in her 3rd outfit and Rushia in her 4th while Pekora still got delayed.

>>14189664
Thing is pokemon permission is limited and once its over she will have hard time maintaining that kind of numbers.

>>14189287
anon that schizo is one of those schizos who will show up regardless of what the op is, might as well needle him more

>>14189582
shit, quick kronii you gotta do something...open stream now play minecraft running around bunkeronii saying flower

...what was the highest numbers a JP got for these kind of hours? I'm talking about normal weekday streams tho, like zatsus, gaming etc and not the special events on a Sunday night stuff. I'm not used to these stream times.

>>14189711
>>14189686
>>14189579
I'm pretty sure we already discussed this before so before it get off-topic, I will just say this
The outfit will come so there's nothing to worry about and if you want to know more, go ask in Pekora thread

>>14189686
>>14189711
Has anybody check her mama/illust? Maybe there's something happened with them.
Also desu i've never heard people talk about 3rd gen's illust (except flare's) despite how iconic their designs are

>>14189650
Tell the kids that make up Pekora's fandom to do that instead of shitting up the numbers thread AGAIN with irrelevant conspiracy theories about her outfit.

>>14189664
Yeah, Chloe is still up to hanging, Pekora got high watchtime not because of her high peak streams but because she maintained decent to good ccv even in the dryest months where there are no FOTM or Good arcs. If Chloe have a dry season plan then maybe she is competitive enough.

>>14189748
There are other things that can generate it, but it's hard to come by. But the main issue is that, yes Fubuki might have a great month with some massive streams due to a challenge. But the following month she might not break 20k ccv.

Ayame finally stopped and she couldn't read all her superchats...

>>14189803
Pekora illustrator is ironically, less popular than Hikosan and I'm pretty sure Pekora is not very close with Hagura, but Hikosan on the other hand...
But anyway, I can't see anything bad happening between them

>>14189803
Hagure sensei is still active and doing stuff so I doubt it's an issue on his end.

>>14189803
She attended gen 3 concert anon.

>>14189579
No one knows and unless Pekora breaks down during one of her streams and reveals everything, we'll surely never know the whole story.
I do think that Cover doesn't want to give her an outfit because she's already their most prominent talent, however since January (the one time she broke down in tears during a member only stream) she received much less money to her own volition, so that might have made all of the higher ups at Cover Corp. angry(all rrats, don't delve too much into it).

>>14189873
Chloe have to wait till next year to have a chance of beating Pekora. After all she only have like 1 month left to build up her number
I just think that would be fair

>>14189982
that was 3 years ago

>>14190036
>all rrats
Its worthless then

>>14189953
she just read the red and pink one anyway

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>60,006: Ayame (Hololive)
>40,237: Miko (Hololive)
>39,359: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,174: Lui (Hololive)
>36,210: Fubuki (Hololive)
>35,780: Marine (Hololive)
>30,227: Iroha (Hololive)
>28,458: Suisei (Hololive)
>25,428: Iroha (Hololive)
>22,542: Laplus (Hololive)
>18,503: Flare (Hololive)
>18,090: Nene (Hololive)
>17,397: Watame (Hololive)
>17,236: Botan (Hololive)
>15,319: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>14,852: Mori Calliope (Hololive)
>13,571: Murasaki Shion (Hololive)
>13,562: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>12,560: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,898: Aqua (Hololive)
>11,854: Rushia (Hololive)
>11,728: Mio (Hololive)
>10,788: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,501: Moona (Hololive)
>10,423: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>10,027: Lamy (Hololive)

>>14189579
the most common theory is that neither Hagure or Pekora can agree on a proper alternative design for her and that's why things aren't proceeding. Either that or Cover is just vetoing anything Hagure comes up with because, well, this is the kind of thing she draws.

>>14189873
Yea, but that's the thing. With the way Chloe is streaming she wont become a Watch Hour behemoth, even if she were to have a consistent average ccv of 30k+ after dbut buff. Her streams are to short at the moment for that to work. She is currently having ~39k average ccv for december., and she is keeping pace with that. If she keeps these numbers and these rough stream schedules, then yes she has a chance, but otherwise no.

>>14190101
>>14189962
Hagure-sensei did illustrations for Pegor's 2nd anniversary, so yeah they're still cool.

>>14189376
Pekora Sana and Baelz was really fun. Baelz even called Pekora her sensei
She is closer to those 2 than she will ever be with Kiara

>>14190129
Nijisanji do something. Moona is beating kuzuha.

>>14190129
Damn, top 10 sweep and Moona over Silverboi.

>>14190184
Let's just wait for next year. CCV is something that you have to observe for an extended period of time

>>14190184
Yeah as I said, Chloe needs a dry season content, or a personal buff content. She can still enjoy megabuff now because of huge backlog of proven hololive buff games and contents. But dry season will come eventually. And if her respond to that is just animal crossing or collabs then its not not happening.

>>14189582
Kronii will overtake Chloe again in a month when her subs slows down to a crawl

>>14190129
Jesas

>>14190303
Woah that is a bold statement

>>14190129
Holo clean swipe until 14th
Hal tried his best, but can only saved a 15 swipe

>>14190129
K-King... ;-(

Is this the lowest he can go?
>Mogged by Moona regular ass stream?
I wonder if Sana has a trick or two in her sleeve

>22k
>2am monday jst
Sasuga orc-chan

>>14190129
Not a single stream under 10k, now that is something that don't usually happened

>>14190303
Keep dreaming, bait-kun

>>14190303
Not impressive. She already got overtaken by a recently debuted chubba despite having months of head start, that dignity is already lost

>>14190280
In order to beat pekora you need high CCV and high streaming hours. Having high CCV won't cut it. Look at marine 2nd highest but her streaming hours is pretty low.

>>14190178
meanwhile Gaou-sensei keep giving Aqua boobjobs so her boobs keep getting bigger with every new Aqua fanart. I don't think it's Hagure's nature of work is what's keeping him from finalizing Pegor's alt costume. unfortunately, we'll never know the reason why.

It's really not a rocket science. If the outfit is delayed, it means that either artist or rigger refuses to do their job for one reason or another (busy schedule, etc.) and Cover doesn't want to replace them. Any shizo rumors about Pekora's relationships with Cover have no basis in reality whatsoever. And Pekora has never complained about Cover, not even in that infamous member stream.

>>14190303
i screenshot this first just in case, anon

>>14190129
>top 14 all Holos
>3 non-Holos above 10k

>>14190375
>Not a single stream under 10k, now that is something that don't usually happened
kek, this list cuts on 10k, wtf are you even talking about?

>>14190280
Yea I agree, but the question was speculative, so I speculated.

>>14190414
Sorry for being a retard but jesas...I actually forgot Matsuri exist
No one talk about her at all

>>14190129

>>14189402
You'll get your next workoholic keyfabe-chuuba in ID3

This shit about pegor's custom could enter one of those top ten unsolved mystery douga

>>14188786
>stream time: 1.343
Watame...

>only 70k watching Billie Eilish's new song premiere
>44 MILLION SUBS
This is why NijiEn is unstoppable, their subs to ccv ratio is amazing

>>14189376
But I see only Sana and Baelz as contender. You know how Pekora will never collab with anyone that she doesn't know well or uncomfortable with

Chloe has already passed Mel in this year's watch time and is going to pass Sana and Aki in few days.

>>14190490
Yeah but this is not the place to talk about it

>>14190560
Anon.. kiara hasnt graduate yet..

>>14190303
She needs to start streaming more than 2-3 times a week first.

>>14190560
Could be Gura. They both talked about wanting to collab with each other.

>>14190466
Even without Matsuri there were plenty of under 10k streams. But now that you call attention to it, there might have been more over 10k streams than under

>>14190622
If it's Kiara she would already trying to spoil it before Pekora. You know how she is

>>14190594
Yeah but did she pass Ayame?

Stream time (hours) power level
>1200+
S+
>1000-1200
S
>800-1000
A+
>600-800
A
>500-600
B+
>400-500
B+
>300-400
C+
>200-300
D+
>100-200
D

>>14190414
She'll get talked about when she has her winter 3D stream.

>>14190656
That would be hilarous, but I doubt it.

>>14190689
It's honestly not that bad when you put into perspective how big is thousands of people
Even the lowest stream get 3k people, now imagine 3k people standing in the same place, you would see that it's a lot more than you think it is. It help battling the numberrot

>>14190656
>>14190622
I kind of hope for it to be Sana. It will further confirm my rrat that Pekora want to "save" all the lowest number kouhais
She let them benefit from her aura once, give them a boost then leave to watch them grow with that boost by themselves

>>14190392
Everyone is talking about the illustrator, what about the rigger?

>>14190932
I want baelz since she has been a hardworker, and I would like to imagine pekora admiring her grind with those JP timeslot streams

>3.2M yen
>1025 new members
Jesas. How much is a membership to Ayame? She must have made some good fucking money today.

>>14190992
I actually have never seen anyone talk about Pekora rigger. Who was it?

>>14190129
>King under the moon
N-not like this nijisisters....

>>14190656
OH GOD YES PLEASE

>>14191014
rariemonn, so not the rigger

>>14190993
Baelz is cool too. She kind of remind me of Pekora herself. Hope she is a late bloomer like Pekora since Pekora did not get her number immediately either

>>14191010
Some nips were calling Ayame the first "luxury brands vtuber" where the general unavailability and the rarity of the item makes the value of it go higher

>>14189582
Welp she gained an extra 1k during the stream she has officially pass Kronii

>>14191014
rariemonn did the original, ilie tou did the prisoner outfit.

>>14191014
Rariemon for the base pekora and Ilie Tou for the prison outfit.

chloe already surpassed kronii

>>14191017
I mean, isn't it poetic?

>After a long day of having fun shooting people in Valorant, a vampire rests looking at the moon as he blocks the screams and shouts from his manager outside his room. The vampire weeps as he remembered that he needs to do his job again carrying the whole company tomorrow.

>>14190648
She doesn't need to stream more than 2-3 times a week to maintain a 40k-50k subs/month rate while even Pekora barely manages 40k. Only idiots will bet on Kronii and Mumei staying behind Holox for long.

>>14191066
I don't watch baelz but I think her main issue is that she never had a definitive content to pin as her identity. I only keep seeing her do study streams for some reason.

>>14191066
Come on i did like bae at some point but currently she doesn't really reminds me of pekora. Just look at this.

>>14191082
You mean koreans, right?

>>14191066
How long did the bunny take before she start to bloom?

>>14191220
It's the fucking rrat meme that trick people into thinking she's EN Pekora in the first place

>>14191220
Pekora wasn't exactly a numbers monster when she first debuted either, it took her a very long time before she found her stride

>>14191220
I didn't realize with the boost from SportsFes Bae is still this behind. Hope she finds her stride in the future.

>>14191248
Until her MG series afaik, then she starting to take off. Ogey and rrat become part of Hololive culture because of that series as well

>Ayame gets two months worth of sc in a single stream
I don't want holobronies to ever come with the "average sc per stream" cope. Just accept you're poor compared to Nijichads and move on.

>>14191220
mori streams a lot for someone known for 5%

>14191310
Take your (retard) and get out

>>14191329
She been streaming a lot more

>>14191270
What is it about Hololive environment that makes streamers want to get better once hey get into tthe company?

>>14191168
Damn, I expected it to happened after few more hours later but not this fast...sasuga orca

>>14191329
anon just because people on 4chan say it doesn't mean it's true.

>>14191270
Im just looking at the stream hours here anon.. Baelz only stream for 44hrs. Thats less than marine and slightly above gura.

Nene (less than a month) has more SC than Ojou( over 2 months), it should be 1:2

>>14191407
Wasn't she on break for the last week?

>>14191370
It's about family anon. The hololive TM family

>>14191270
Gut feeling isn't proof of anything.

>>14191370
Because they’re not competing against each other, they work together.
Nijisanji is survival of the fittest.

>>14191370
The avatar give them more confidence I guess?

Seething nijisister is here with cope after getting absolutely assblasted in the daily ranking.

>>14190129
Jesus. Once again 20K wouldn't even get you top 10. This is insanity

>>14190129
>60,006: Ayame (Hololive)

>>14191444
Yeah but if anon here keeps on comparing her to pekora her stream hours should be atleast close to pekora no?

>>14190129
Why is there no niji in the top 10 even when kuzuha streamed ? They are the biggest vtuber company right ?

Please stop kicking the nijifags, they are already dead

Ayame was born under an extreme lucky star.

>>14191310
It's the other way around, mate
>Ayame gets in one stream what it takes NijiEN two months to get

>>14191641
I will dance instead

>>14191682
You mean what takes Mumei, Ina, Ame and Fauna THREE months to get?

>>14191825
Here use this instead

If I were a Nijifag I would avoid this thread

Not shitpost at this point because it would be sad but how would you save Kuzuha? I suggest dropping valorant since that game is fucking boring.

>>14191882
if I were a Nijifag I would probably kill myself.

>>14189402
someone stop Watame

HoloEN World Tour confirmed

>>14191933
He does whatever he wants and his management are not going to go against him.
Last thing they want is him quitting because he finds management annoying (e.g. Lulu).

>>14191310
I don't understand, ayame is a holo, what are you trying to prove here?

So...I just remember that thing kson pushed when she redebut
Was it like an indie Vtuber oranization?

>>14191933
stop being an one-trick streamer

Matome numberfag bros are giving Nijisanji a funeral already
>remember to correct me if you have any better than a N999 japanese and catches me in a mistake

>>14191831
This kinda highlights difference in culture and mentality of not leaving anyone behind. Hololive has 10 or so members out of 50 that perform worse than average, but still doing very well, and everybody gets assblasted over it. While Nijisanji has around 70 people who are literal 2views (including two whole branches) and nobody bats an eye or talks about them. Like people actually couldn't care less about less popular Nijis outside of EN branch and Edengumi, both of which are aped the box pushing strategy of Hololive.

>>14192130
please do not feed the village idiot

>>14192130
The dude is a raging nijiEN fag that wants to try and push the idea that nijiEN is 'winning' because they get more SCs vs their viewership relative to hololive. It's annoying and there's an assortment of factors at play that he chart doesn't even begin to scratch but w/e I just ignore it since it's white noise at this point since they keep repeating the same things.

>>14192130
Someone posts the "average sc per stream" graph as a cope to multiple holoEN's making less sc money than NijiEN now since they are lazy asses. Ayame crushes everyone in that metric, so it's meaningless. SC x amount streams = diminishing returns.

>THIS HOLO GIRL MADE MORE IN A STREAM THAN THE WHOLE EN BRANCH MADE IN THE MONTH SO FAR
Conclusion?

>HOLOLIVE BTFO!
WELL ANONS!?

>>14192147
Holo is quality over quantity anon, I don't think anyone should be surprised by that at this point

>>14192147
I'm pretty sure that's because there isn't a single actual nijifag around here and certainly not enough to start shitposting wars amongst themselves.
You should see the JP nijithread though, there was an awlful lot of shitposting about the gwelu noraneko situation this afternoon

>>14192201
NijiEN, I surely mean

>>14192189
Your argument maybe would hold water if Ayame hadn't made more money than NijiEN in absolute value too, which she did
>in a single stream

>>14191831
jeez

>>14191933
If we're talking unironically, give him other male streamers to wok with and push his stream. He needs like 3 more people like Kanae. Maybe debut a special wave of talents and make Kuzuha a member, like Hololive did with Fubuki and gamers. For all the talk about Manjisanji, Niji males are pretty weak outside select few.

What happened to Kuzuha 2 btw...

TICK AND TOCK CLOCKGIRL!

>>14192382
Deserve

>>14192382
How many times have we gone through this

>>14192379
He didn't fly so good.

>>14192382
It's already over, she's at 564k. Chloe gets 2k/hour whenever she streams on her channel.

>>14192276
The point is that SC x amount of streams/amount of time streamed = diminishing returns, so it's not an argument for holoENs making less sc money than NijiEN members just because they are lazy and don't stream.

>>14190036
The only realistic assumptions are either:
>Pekora herself has been rejecting all the outfits
>Pekora's artist is too busy and cannot dedicate time to making a proper outfit
Anything else is rrats borne out of plain stupidity. You think Cover would give any chance at good PR with an outfit? Did you forget "Rhombus"?

>>14192382
Your late she already passed Kronii in sub count

>>14192339
>Maybe debut a special wave of talents and make Kuzuha a member
They already tried that
https://www.rof-mao.com/
>OH WAIT!
They left Kuzuha out

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh!?

>>14192382
My oshi is a numberfag but please don't numberfag with my oshi in here and instead do it in the appropriate threads.

>>14192489
Shit I'm retarded I am in the number thread.

Actually how are the guys in Nijisanji compare to Holostar? I am always under the impression Nijisanji dude are doing better than Hololive dudes

>>14192450
Here is the only thing you and I likely agree on
>Council is lazy as fuck

But as for SC, be it in actual SC earned across the time or potential earnings HoloEN clearly outearn NijiEN by a HUGE margin

>>14192489
>>14192525
fans really take after their oshi

tik tok...

>>14192466
roflmao

>>14192631
lololololololol

>>14192525
>whalefags are numberfags
It was obvious

>>14192525
PON

>>14191871
Is this from the Aqua video?

>>14192598
Yeah... My lack of sleep is giving me a bad case of PON as well...

>>14192533
>I am always under the impression Nijisanji dude are doing better than Hololive dudes
And they are. Here is Niji males vs. Holostars
>pic related

Holostars would be at the tail end of Nijisanji even if you included foreign branches

>>14192773
This is interesting, it seem Nijisanji handle guys better than girls

>>14192816
There's a reason they call it Manjisanji.

>>14192067
What world tour?

>>14192382

>>14192773
>70% of the sharts are below a NijiID
oh no no no no

>>14192703
Hey, true, but it's annoying to see numbers outside here when all I want is to discuss about my oshi's streams and cuteness. Got to used to shitting on anons in global when I was switching between tabs and thus made such a dumb mistake.

>>14192138
Everyone from JOPs to Kaigainikis already accepted that without tourneys or events, Nijisanji is a lost cause. A failure of a brand, the undoing of Riku and his punchable face.

>>14192457
>Pekora herself has been rejecting all the outfits
Unless if the outfit is really garbage I don't see her rejecting outfits considering she commissioned an pants in head prison outfit. Also she herself knows that she can't afford anymore delay since Everytime there is a Holo outfit reveal it gets closer to Pekora losing control on possible outrage to her fans.
I would rather buy the rrat that her original 2nd outfit was suppose to be Chinese themed but got canned since the coco stuff happened(still a dumb rrat.

>>14192898
After seeing this and moona mogging the shit out of kang, I think it is safe to say that we have been underestimating id chubas?

>>14192773
>>14192816
>>14192845
>>14192898
Here is the reverse of the coin
>Niji girls vs. Hololive

Major props for Lize and Mito for being exceptional

>>14193006
>90% of NijiEN are below a HoloID
oh no no no no

>>14192920
What’s amazing to me is just how much of a giant lead Nijisanji had above everyone and they lost it.

>start her stream at 3 A.M
matuli...

>>14192457
It's just as stupid to think it's because Pekora has been rejecting all the outfits or because Hagure is too busy. It's been way, way too long for it to realistically be on Pekora or Hagure's end. If it was on Pekora or Hagure's, or both, end then Cover would have Pekora apologize. Instead, Cover themselves apologized for the delay. Why would Cover apologize for a delay that isn't their fault? It doesn't make any sense.

>>14192457
Here's another one, I'll rate this the highest.
> incompetent managers doesn't do the proper arrangements to make sure they either have priority by the artist or be early enough that any queue is not a problem

Another less likely
> Artist demands higher payment due to the success of talent. Cover refuses, backfires due to fans, pays up but are now low priority

>>14193103
Anon, cover is a idol management firm. Attracting hate away from their talents is literally what they are supposed to do

I think Pekora doesn't want to get a new outfit.

>>14192986
In my personal opinion, most Holo ID girl we have right now are quite good.
>Essentially a perfect combination of JP and En
>Very unity and it show
>Put out song/contents regularly
>Actually VERY active on social medias and make an attempts to connect with everyone
Shame they are not more popular

>>14193103
>Why would cover apologize for rejecting the two designs from artists that designed 2 of holox even though they might not have been at fault?????
It's almost like if there were issues on Pekora's end, Cover is opting to take the PR hit to prevent issues from arising. I wonder if MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE?
No, Cover has to be completely evil and incompetent 100% of the time and they can never do any good. I swear you've let rrats feast on your brain too much.

>>14193006
Wait, where's iofi?

>>14193158
>Shame they are not more popular
Anon, they can't be any more popular than they are.
Here is the ID branches for both companies. I doubt Maha5 greatly outranks NijiID so that's that

>>14193071
Seeing the chart wouldn't it be more appropriate to treat holoid as nijien's competitor instead of holoen, they seem closer in performance it might well produce good discussions instead of the usual shitpostings

>>14193231
Didn't have 5 streams in the month (4, to be exact)

>>14193154
Then why announce it in the first place? This rrat have been disproven by the sheer fact that both said admit there is an outfit in the work
>>14193187
Even if it’s from Pekora side, the outfit is already in the work which mean she agreed to it

>>14193187
Damn, never though we would have a Cover intern in the thread. How's it going with polishing yagoo's asshole?

>>14193276
It's been mentioned plenty of times, no one ever really pays it much mind though.

It's funny how Moona of all people joined Hololive because she thinks she could become an idol, but joined a virtual streamer thing as the first gen of the ID branch. Got tens of fans in her initial stage watching her sing like a rookie singer singing at a dilapidated bar, then a year later, she sang to like 10k people tonight only because she felt like she wanted to boxpush those viewers to Reine. Most singers wouldn't have sang to 100 people after a year.

>>14193276
It would be but the pride of nijifags wouldn't stand for it. Even now you have the villiage idiot trying to pick fights with holoEN like a small dog barking at a tiger

>>14193318
Ha, I wouldn't mind if I was an intern but no. Its just really tiring seeing people run with the same stupid rrats over and over again and people actually believing them across the board, like that shitty rrat that "JP 6 didn't get enough qualified applicants because they binned these two models" that was running rampant. Fuck, I hate the stupid rrats that run around about Niji too. I'd be nice if people actually used their brains for a bit instead of believing everything that was posted on this thriceforsaken indian carpetmaking forum.

>>14193255
These girl deserve as much as EN, I been following the ID1 girls on Twitter these past few days and honestly, while I know the word doesn’t mean much, I have to say they got the SOUL
They reply to each other, tagging each other on memes and sending memes to each other like a real bunch of close friend instead of a group of Vtuber. I see their optimism and how happy they are to be a Holo and I can’t help but compare them to EN
EN have the popularity but they just lack something...

>>14193406
I mean if there is one thing I can rely holoID on, it's the fact that they will always stream over big events kek.

>>14193403
>that shitty rrat that "JP 6 didn't get enough qualified applicants because they binned these two models" that was running rampant
anon, no one actually believe that. It's all 2view cope that hololive will fall soon due to no actual action on their part, the same way no one actually believes that the three gorges dam is going to collapse anytime soon but it sure would be nice if it happened wouldn't it?

>>14193406
>and sending memes to each other like a real bunch of close friend instead of a group of Vtuber
Iofi, Moona and Risu used to live together. It was LOTS OF FUCKING FUN to witness their interactions, including one of the most iconic streams from that branch
>the day Risu "stole" Moona's piggybank and made a "counting coins ASMR" stream

One of the things that was very debuffing for ID as a branch was when Moona popped out as a breakout star with the whole PekoMoona thing. Iofi and Risu got very self conscious and retreated into their own little fiefdoms

Here is that legendary stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Y-XuaSwqU

Also: Moona is not playing it for gags, she's a legit autist that doesn't like people touching her stuff

>>14193484
Kek one more reason why I love them

>>14193488
Of course 'no one believes it' until enough people are seen spouting the same tired bullshit unchallenged, and people start to think "maybe there's some substance to this since no-one's saying anything to the contrary". Many such cases, not just currently here, but as a general rule.
Regardless, all I can say over this outfit nonsense is wait until its revealed and stop doomposting and rratmongering over it.

>>14193358
They can't just keep ignoring the branch now that moona surpassed nijiEN's total hardcap

>>14193662
no thanks Cover intern, it's pretty clear Cover are doomed and no matter what they do with Pekora's outfit they'll receive severe backlash from nousagis and it'll lead to the total destruction of their reputation for good, everyone will hate them for mistreating their greatest talent and Nijisanji will rise again with this opportunity

>>14193662
Sure, but learn to pick your fights. The "JP 6 didn't get enough qualified applicants because they binned these two models" died the moment JP6 actually debuted, and so will the pekora outfit rrats when pekora's outfit gets released. There is literally no point in fighting something that's clearly cope and will crash into reality eventually.

>>14193276
>>14193358
>>14193834
>muh CCV
ID isn't even a blip in the radar when it comes to sc. You think Millie regrets joining NijiEN instead of holoID just because she has less viewers and subs than them? She makes a shitton of money in comparison.

>hello! my favorite things are things holofans like
>the things I don't like are what holofans don't like, except scary things(i know you want me to be scared teehee~)
>this senpai and that senpai, they're in hololive
>*sings SSS in debut*
>did I mention that I'm in hololive?
Anyone else kinda like how she knows exactly how her bread is buttered?

I see people calling orca a numberfag, but besides spamming streams, has she really done anything to indicate she's above average in her numberfagging other than actually getting good numbers? It sounds more like wishful thinking on your end. If trying to get more subs and views is being exceptionally numberfaggy, then every holo who hasn't just given up also fits the bill.

>>14193926
Does she

>>14193697
watch them try, nijiniggers have refined selective cognition to a fine art, especially the ones who keep showing up in these threads.

>>14193920
>something that's clearly cope
>Cover releases the outfit, it's nothing special and everyone will shit on them for delaying it so long just to make a normal outfit like everyone else's
>Cover never releases the outfit, they get shit on forever for not releasing it
nice try call it cope all you want but Cover aren't going to get off easy from this disaster

>>14193950
>Above average
Singing English songs and being good at is a flex, anon

>>14193834
As much as I hate Cover for delaying her outfit, you are overblowing it. Nousagis will only give them backlash for like a week at most and then everything will be back to normal
None of them care that much about the outfit itself, what they want is for Cover to explain what taking them so long instead of staying quiet

>>14193965
She already made more than half of Moona's total SC according to playboard, not counting streamlabs donations.

>>14193950
It’s just the Pekora treatment, it happened to every Holo that get big numbers

>>14194037
I thought ID chubas don't have sc enabled due to local regulation?

>>14193834
This one is pretty good. Where did you get your inspiration?

Anyway if you guys can stop coping and come back to numbers for a moment

>>14193950
Honestly, I debate how much La+ is a numberfag and how much it was a [REDACTED] year old hikki NEET on a number high and freaking out about her boon was disappearing. Trending #1 in the world on twitter and getting 167k CCV on debut could cause a massive release of endorphins.

Can’t believe we are discussing this again. Just be patient, it’s an outfit, not like it will cause Pekora to graduate
This is the number thread

>>14194077
Indonesians can't superchat but Indonesian vtubers can receive superchats from elsewhere.

>>14194211
She did it! And all she needed was to announce her fucking graduation.

>>14194211
kek, all it took was announcing “indefinite hiatus”.

>>14194211
Damn the hiatus announcement worked

>>14194246
Do we know which is their primary source of income then? Streamlab or sc

>>14194211
LETS FUCKING GOOOO OYABUN still got it lol

>>14193406
It's just like recent gen before they joined Hololive, most of them lack opportunities, not skill.

>>14194211
TIK TOK GAWR GURA

>>14194211
So this is the graduation buff huh?

>>14194211
Good lord, finally. How long have we waited

>>14194211
Do you guys think she will have guests in graduation? I would love to see the heavenly kings together one last time(just have Pmaru stand in)

>>14194077
>>14194246
>>14194281
Moona is getting btfo in both. Doesn't matter. Indonesian mudhutters don't have any money to send either way.

>>14194281
Depends on the streamer but you can guess from the chat. If everyone's chatting in English they probably have a mostly international audience and get most of their income from conventional SCs, if the chat is primarily Indonesian it's probably mostly streamlabs in Indo money.

>>14194069
Pekora is a bad example. She is a certified numberfag and openly talks about how her motivation is to rise in the number charts.

>>14194366
she's been talking about hitting three million since 2019, so over two years now

>>14194583
Well that is not a bad thing isn’t it? She want to be the biggest streamer, then she will have to do it
Plus we are in the number thread
Anyway my point is it doesn’t matter who, if a Holo get big number, shitposters going to latch onto them, and call them numberfag. People need a way to justify a Holo getting big number without admitting the girl are better than their oshi

>>14191606
By volume which helps revenue the most in the end. Sure hololive JP can sometimes sweep the top 10 but they can't make up the gap of 36 vs 100~. Assuming holos have 2 hours of streams at 12k per night then that is only 864 watched hours per night. For nijisanji they only need 4.82k to match that. Of course most nijisanji members stream more than that AND there are way more unique viewers.

Wonder where the anon who said this now

>>14195251
I think I understand now. So holo = quality, niji = quantity?