/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14105669
How can we save her?

>>14105669
I shall make new accounts just to subscribe to her

>>14105669
i know shes a manipulator but at least shes a hard worker unlike...

>>14105720
Save her from what?

>>14105669
I love this numberfagging orca. Efficiently doing what a vtuber should be doing. Her time as a 2view has tempered her into an unstoppable force.

>>14105669
YES

>>14105669
>literal gura killer
>made gura take break

>>14105720
by subscribing

Just a reminder for anyone wondering: Chloe killed Gura and now cumcucks are seething all over the board. Return to your generals gentlemen, nothing good to see here.

>>14105805
Yeah honestly gotta respect the hustle.

チャンネル登録お願いします。

>>14105760
On my way to do the same!

>>14105816
She kind of reminds me of suisei they still remember the days of singing to a room full of dirty groomers

>>14105669
And I did.

>>14106203
is this an amelia watson reference?!

>>14105816
Was she really a 2 view? She was earning more superchat money than some Holos

>>14106238
But they're still doing that anon. There's just more of them now.

her model has great tits and i will fap to the porn but i will not watch her nor ever hear her voice

>>14106397
>more superchat money than some Holos
kek

never watched her, never will
will never watch collabs involving her and will unsubscribe from girls who host collabs involving her and never watch them again
including my oshi

>>14106397
90k USD in 3 years? Pretty sure that's way worse than any holo.

>>14106626
Based

>>14106238
That's a pretty good comparison. Suisei promotes herself all the time, but I haven't seen anyone hating her for it.

>>14105669
She's too powerful

>>14105669
literally the only thing I don't like about her. It just reminds you she's the fakest holo by a long shot.

>>14105669
She is so fake

>>14105669
the armpits make me even harder than the cleavage.

>>14106959
And who isn't?

>>14106845
She worked her way up from the bottom as Hoshimachi Suisei.

It's different from a 2view debuting to hololive with a massive following out the gate.

>>14107028
This cope from Chloefags is so sad. At least try to defend the girl instead of doing "n-no your oshii too".

>>14107359

Chloefags are the Trump supporters of Hololive. Their oshi can do any toxic shit she wants and they'll still support her.

>>14106845
That's because she usually promotes herself in japanese.

>>14107359
What's to defend? She's doing everything perfectly and it's making fans of the lazier Holos mad that she's showing up their oshis by actually putting effort in to maximize her opportunity.

>>14107359
You misunderstood, I'm simply calling you fags out on your bullshit calling others' oshis fake while having a fake oshi yourselves. Suck my dick

That's great and all but I want a girl that demands I subscribe

>>14107548
>tries to say its ok Chloe is the fakest holo because other holos are fake
>what's there to defend
No other holo does it to the extreme Chloe does, stop coping

>>14105669
The first and last thing I heard from her when I opened her debut stream. Moeblobs filter me hard.

>>14105669
Fuxk u bitch

>>14107444
>this is a post made on 4chan

Am I weird for liking the fact that her cute act is fake and that she's rather calculated and smart under it all? It unironically gives her a layer of mystery and unpredictability and I'm looking forward to seeing parts of her real personality come up.

>>14105669
I heard she's an underage JC?
Do Japan allow underage to work as a vtuber?

>>14108014
you need to be 18+ to post

>>14107444
4 more years

>>14108122
The entertainment industry in Japan allows a lot of teen or even preteen talents and actors to work. IRL Idol Industry is notorious for this.

>>14108122
You mean she's an elementary schooler when she started vtubing?

>>14108364
oh I see
>>14108366
女子中学生

>>14108135
You need to be ur mom to suck this cock

>>14108446
But she started years ago

>>14108446
Right but she's been vtubing for 3 years, hence the anon's question if she started as a shougakusei.

>>14105669
Yes, my mistress.

>>14108122
The true holocunny?

>>14108538
>>14108589
My source is 2ch you can head over there to ask nippon bros anything more is a doxx here

Who is this? I wish to subscribe to her

>>14107113
The fuck is a 2view

>>14107444
Trump is the best president America had in decades and you niggers couldn't appreciate how much he improved the economy and overall living conditions just because he posted some mean tweets and because the fake media told you to hate him because of a fake Russian conspiracy. A 4 years conspiracy and several impeachment attempts over something that was completely made up but now everyone acts like if it never happened just like no one cares how Biden already fucked up the economy in less than a year, let the border go out of control or how he left Americans behind in Afghanistan... Not to mention the supply chain crisis.... But Trump posted mean tweets.... omg

>>14108364
based culture desu. hags need to gtfo

>>14108851

A 2view is a vtuber who only has 2 viewers. They are often targets of pedophiles who try to groom them.

>>14108122
In Hololive they had underages working in the past (Haachama and Shion) but i think the current policy is 18+ only.

>>14108929
So 90% of indies?

I love how numberfagging is now defended by people so they can justify using this new girl to shitpost against other people

>>14109043

I will defend numberfagging and I will use Chloe to shitpost against other people's oshis, including yours.

>>14108783
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIBY1ollUsauvVi4hW4cumw

>>14109007
Make that 99% of indies

>>14107113
There is nothing wrong with promoting yourself regardless of 2 view status or 1m subs vtuber.
Its your work, whatever the fuck it might be, if your proud off it then shill it.

Anyone thay bitches about this is a faggot that never made a single creative thing in their life.

>>14107839
>He's still seething
Save this effort for your council whores anon, its on them to not be lazy pieces of shit.

>>14105669
no

>>14107839
Chloe is the best at what she does. If you want to say thats her being the "fakest" then that's just seethe and cope from a loser. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

>>14108869

Grandpa, it's almost 2022. You can't be racist anymore.

>>14108589
https://nyfco.org/chloe-zense/
She is at least 21 according to the jp detective bros

>>14109043
It's always been defended globalfag.

People are just angry because chloe is a virgin unlike their whore oshi.

>>14107839

Actually, being open about her desire for more subscribers means she's the most real. Your oshi is probably faker than her.

>Chloe blasts out the gate being fully upfront about wanting more subs and needing money
>This is a bad thing
???

>>14109666
schizos find a way to hate anything even if they don't watch her

a thread died for this

>>14107444
So you're saying that she's based. Very nice.

>>14108869
>le edgy slurs
>unironic trumpublicunt
you know every chuuba you watch is leftist and this is a leftist board, right? you have lost your influence and 4chan has turned against you. you are voting against your very own economic interests and the one piece of board culture that every board has in common is "fuck off back to pol, rightard".

>>14105817
My cock

wow i didn't ask for you to make this bad thread worse or anything

>>14110060
No one cares about your left side right side. King is a shit song. Envy Baby or Eye only

>>14108869
>migapedes still exist in current year
he literally tried giving joggers 500 billion dollars in reparations

>>14108122
She's at least 21

>>14110060
Hello from Venezuela, kindly go fuck yourself commie larper.
>>14108869
Fuck Trump too, he is a retarded cuck for believing in Maduro's puppet opposition.

>>14110060
>>14110261
Go back bunkertranny. You're probably the person who brought up trump for no reason just to bait responses.

>>14105669
GET THE BAG SIS

>>14105817
Herself

>>14108929
>pedos trying to groom anime lolis
>but those lolis are voiced by almost-middle-aged women

>crab thenkyuu~

>>14106739
That's a middle class lifestyle for a single person in Japan and parts of the USA that aren't horribly overpriced

>>14110768
you know there's a whole board for chuds right? why not fuck off to it, and stay there?

Not a coincidence that she's targeting the only non-numberfag in her gen as her ship partner. She knows Kazama "i'm-just-happy-to-be-here-lmao" Iroha will never rise up to challenge her.

>>14105669
How long until she surpasses Gura in subs? 6 months?

>>14111828
>3M
She won't, see Pekora or Suisei as reference

>>14106994
FOLDS

>>14105669
>be 2view for years
>get used to saying please subscribe because low subs
>get hired to largest vtubing group
>the conditioning never goes away and you repeat the same two words
Gotta respect the grind

>>14105669
*unsubs and resubs*

>>14105669
Already have, sweetie. I love you!

>>14105669

>>14112009
She already broke Gura's record by getting to 500k subs in half the time. She's going to blow past her.

>>14109405
No it hasn't you dumb fuck.

>>14105669
Literally every Japanese streamer tells their viewers frequently to subscribe, but don't expect the EOPs of this board to know that.

It’s a shame she’s an M, she seems so deliberately aware of how cute she is that her aura almost radiates a smug energy. What I’m saying, basically, is that I want Chloe to step on me

>>14112469
Your math is Gura level

>>14112538
Yes it has you're just reddit cancer who migrated over to global when EN was announced

>>14106279
Amelia Watson used her creativity to invent money, so yes.

>>14107839
So what?
Next, you'll say Luna is 100% genuine, like the complete retard you are.

>>14105669
holy fuck she is so cute unlike nijinigger im gonna sub and member her

>>14113123
please don't bring my oshi into this, whatever is going on here I am not reading this thread just saw Luna posted

>>14112634
Answer the following questions:
1. How many days did it take Gura to reach 500k subs?
2. How many days did it take Chloe to reach 500k subs?

>>14105669
Subscwibed

>>14113539
Anon, she already started to plateau at 535k. Her growth curve is the same as Irys. Expect her to slow down to 50-55k a month and reach 700+k by Feb.

>>14105669
I can't say no to that face

>>14109043
Views and subscribers means revenue. And revenue can be used for goods and not just feeding your ego. That's how capitalism works.

She's ambitious, manipulative, and calculative, but she's hardworking. So she deserves her popularity.
She's really smart that she knows the power of "please subscribe" is.

>>14112366
>she used to be a 2view
the orca must be protected at all cost

>>14106035
>nothing good to see here
You say that but you post that image, anon how are you going to contradict yourself like that

>>14108122
Omg I love Chloe now

What is sex with Chloe like?

>>14117465
It'll blow your eardrums out. Your neighbours will complain about the noise.

>>14105669
Imagine the superchat hailstorm when it opens

>>14108122
>>14108364
>in Japan
ALL entertainment industries allow this. Why even pretend like child actors arent a thing everywhere?

>>14112417
I should have listened, but it's too late for me.

>>14112582
Pretty much. It's not really anything unusual, just is hearing it being said in English because HoloEN is its own special snowflake spinoff that does things its own way sometimes, for better or worse.

>>14108122
Seems doubtful considering she'd been an indie for like 3 years before this.

She's also been a Hololive fan basically all of that time too, she was into Holos years before you more likely than not. That being considered it's no surprise she is so very gung-ho about this, it's her dream come true.

>>14117465
https://hanime.tv/videos/hentai/zton-jingai-animation-a-beautiful-greed-nulu-nulu-1
20:07

>>14107839
Honestly I kind of like people who choose to be cute.
Like there's genuine cute like Aqua, but it takes a special sort of autism to want to act like Aqua if that makes sense

She is a japanese streamer, so I will not be watching her

>>14118989
Based and doesn't pretend to speak Japanese-pilled

>>14105805
The Manipulator..

>>14105669
Yes I will my precious little Chloe.

Don't be the seal anon. Outsmart the orca. As a oga philosopher once said: "If you fall for her it's already too late for you."

>>14119572
NENE NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>14113892
Answer the following questions:
1. How many days did it take Gura to reach 500k subs?
2. How many days did it take Chloe to reach 500k subs?

>>14119972
How much newfag did your chloe brought
though?.
As much as i ashamed to say this, I got to vtuber bec of gura but i dont watch her anymore. But thanks to him, I have got to know subaru.

>>14119972
Doesn't matter, gura was an anomaly. Her subs never slowed down.

>>14105669
I swear these threads are created by dumb retards who tuned into Chloe as their first JP
Spoiler alert, most of the JP branch asks for you to sub at one point in their streams. Just like someone who uses youtube does. Wow what a concept

>>14122986
That..that's different! She's a manipulative WHORE, fake and inferior to my Gura

>>14107028
keep seething chloefag
even the Japs realise she is fake, Oga wasn't the only one to think so
https://files.catbox.moe/jolcoo.mp4

Pure eslut cancer

>>14123139
Nice try falseflagger

>>14107839
>Nooo guys don't subscribe and don't send SCs to me, I'm already rich and only doing this for fun, I only want your love
Is this what you want her to say?

>>14123210
>literal who

>>14123315
She could also not care about numbers so much and just stream for fun

>>14123210
Based bear, I kneel.
>>14123382
Keep coping orcuck

>>14123315
I'd like her to have some class, that's what.

>>14123315
Just don't be so open about being a gold digging ewhore, why do you think twitch thots are so disliked? She's literally worse than thr vwhores in that department, I'd take any of them over this bitch any time of the day

the way she said that is very cute
I will subscribe

>>14123210
>Another bitter and jealous 2view
Not the best example

>>14117764
Also Iroha was actually one of the fucking 13knights! She watched Sora debut live!

>>14117555
I think it would be a good gag if she evolved her background after awhile into not a rundown shack

>>14109135
is nobody going to point out her URL ends with CUM

>>14108907
Half of Hololive JP would graduate.

>>14123450
Only commies shame others for being proud of their success.

>>14123796
>Calling people commies unironically in 2021

Okay boomer.

>>14123210
Wow looks like they also have reaction streamers who leech off other content. This is just sad.

>>14105669
Already subscribed.

>>14117573
Japan isn't even really good at this. A lot of their child stars just retire, get married and live a normal life with few mental damages. Their parents don't even mentally abuse them so they stay in their custody forever. It would be pointless because nobody in Nippon is interested in mid 20 hags.

>>14108122
The youngest in Holox is La+ at 19
Don't think Cover will hire another underage, too many problems considering how big holo is now

>>14119124
Is playing XIV once more

>>14105669
What she can offer to her fans?

>>14126382
sex

>>14112876
Ah, like she invented Wrestling too and therefore Holofightz.

Is Ame friends or acquaintances (perhaps contacts or work associates) with The No One?

Yes, we will.

Laplus and orca streaming at the same time let's gooo

>>14108122
Haachama started Hololive when she was still in highschool, so it could be possible.

>>14127648
Haachama is a contractual loophole which is why cover allows her to pretty much do whatever she wants, while still protecting her with everything they have.
The reason why cover pulled out of China was because of haachama and not coco, if it was coco by herself cover would've suspended her.
For them, dealing with China would've been easier than dealing with actual lawsuits given who haachama's parents supposedly are

>>14127715
WTF?

>>14105669
https://files.catbox.moe/xw7jqr.webm

Choco did it better.

>>14127740
Chammers rules hololive with a fair, but iron fist.

>>14123210

Being serious, what's fake and manipulative about this girl? I haven't kept up with discussion about her so I don't really know what's up witb this shit.

>thank you for making me trend again

>>14127843
I think it's based off a joke from a homostar that, for some fucking unexplainable reason, was spun into an actual schizo narrative.

>>14127843
Most girls in holo, particularly early play a character. However the "outrage" over it is always some form of cope. The best you can do is either shitpost in these threads or ignore or ignore them.

>>14127801
Is The No One actually this powerful? Does she take breaks because she gets bored instead of getting blocked by Cover?

>>14127843
>Being serious, what's fake and manipulative about this girl
Everything
isn't it great?

>>14127715
That makes sense. After all cover hired her really early on and I doubt the lawsuits about hiring an underage girl are worth it.

>>14123210
Based.

>>14127967
We may never know how powerful she truly is till she decides, if ever, to call it quits. And it's actually more likely shed take a management position in hololive similar to Achan than full on give it up. That might be what the college arc is for.

>>14105669
I WILL save her from the japanese

>>14127740
>>14127801
>>14127715
>>14127967
>>14128261
Haachama was The Manipulator (= The No One) all the time, of course. It was dead obvious, in our faces, and we didn't see it. Niggerhito, onegai sálvame.

do people really hate IRyS that much that they just memory hole her

>>14105669
CUTE!!

>>14128677
IRyS is too ugly to forget.

>>14119972
>If I keep repeating the same irrelevant point, eventually ill be right
It's only relevant if her growth doesn't slow down, are Chloe fans this retarded?

>>14123315
This is honestly just as fake.

>>14105669
Aren't people getting triggered about her asking to subscribe just forcing too many western streaming etiquette on a newcomer? If on her eyes she's just doing something she thinks streamers are supposed to do, is she really guilty?
What matters is not the act by itself but the intention behind it.

>>14127740
This haachama rrat as as old as hololive itself, from the day people started making rrats up this was one of the primordial ones along with kurisu's suicide

>>14129831
People are getting triggered cause she acts like she got all those subs by herself. Never did she once acknowledge what those who came before her has done. Botan did a stream dedicated to sayinf that it was only possible to get those numbers cause of her senpais.

>>14129918
kurisu who? hitomi?

>>14129983
FACT!! TRUTH! SHE SHOULD REALISE THAT WITHOUT TRUE TALENTED SENPAI SHE WONT GET ANYTHING.. please be thankful to holo.

>>14130033
Yes

>>14129997
You can only imagine how hard she's seething right now, I don't know if she's still vtubing or anything like that though

>>14129831
>/vt/
>people

>>14130033
Botan did a whole stream about it, coming from being a 2 view into the spotlight like this when she first debuted and Gen 5 expressed it as well, if fucking myth were thankful for it and council once they dropped the retarded lore and mellowed out showed gratitude to those who came before them, the only whore who's acting like her "personality" is what brings people in and not the hololive brand is this bitch Chloe

>>14130033
She would still be 2view indie without hololive. Least she could do is not act like a numberwhore.

>>14105669
The Gura killer is actually an Orca, the only natural predator of sharks.

>>14105805
How is she a manipulator? She has been upfront about wanting money from the beginning.

>>14130266
She guilt trips people by acting like a moeblob.
She's literally the embodiment of "uwu pls send munies to ur little kitten"
She's not better than OF and twitch whores.

>>14130033
Debut her in niji and you would be shitting on her. No matter how you twist it hololive made her.

>>14130058
I think she peaced out and stopped streaming

>>14130412
I can definitely see where that rrat comes from tbf, especially when it comes to nips who kill themselves on whims

I honestly think she will never be number 1 or is even close to being a Gura killer.
I only caught a couple of streams of her but isn't she firmly in the gachikoi archetype? When looking at the VTubers that have been at the top and were able to maintain a large loyal fanbase, how many were of this archetype?
Of the current top members of Hololive arguably none are. (Gura, Pekora, Marine, Fubuki, Korone).
Rushia is the only member of the archetype at the top. And unlike Lamy, if any fandead cheats on her, she won't be the one doing the crying.

>>14130139
factsssssssssssssssssss

>>14106203
Gotta love how she came out of the gate saying she wants money and it's actually working.

Orcucks would rather shitpost about other members saying they all do the same thing instead of defending her.

>>14105817
virginity

>>14130518
You'd think someone could search for a death certificate but I don't know if her roommate was ever found out.

>>14130655
Because they csnr defend shit.
They know this bitch is absolutely horrendous, she literally studied English for 3 months prior to her debut according to her JUST for this, she literally took a thing out of every single popular chuuba like haachama, coco, marine, pekora, rushia... Etc and just tries to mix it all in one.
This is how you know she's as fake as it gets, because she knows her real personality is shit and boring and she's got nothing to offer, orcucks know this too so they try to deflect.
What comes naturally to other chuubas she has to do consciously which is why she's so careful with what she does, so the cucks try to reflect rather than prove that she's anything other than what I just said

>>14130922
>thinks his oshi shows him her "real personality"
ngmi. Also,
>that bitch put in at least 3 months of effort before her debut, how dare she!!
When have (you) ever put in that much effort into something, ever?

>>14130922
>>14131114
The orcuck defended, now what schizo?

>>14131114
It’s less about real personality and more about adopting one that is so cynically calculated to amass paypigs over actually being fun and unique

>>14131188
>defended
The fag doesn't even deserve a (You) if you call that a "defense"

>>14131188
NTA but that was literally another deflect from the orcuck. The only thing it did was reinforce his point.

>>14131114
To be honest, I've tried watching chloe a total of 3 times and from those streams I get the impression that she made a list of every successful chuuba trait and is trying to tick every box instead of trying to find her own thing. She clearly didn't have this kind of personality before becoming chloe.

I want cunny at the top, man... Laplus is the one that's actually entertaining. Why is GFE thot above her? This makes the entire community looks bad guys...

>>14131390
Give it time anon. From what I have seen yamada has the most potential.
Chloe is on top now cause she is good at capitalizing on the hype and frankly she is smart to do that. But ultimately GFE streamers will never be No 1.

>>14131390
How is chloe gfe?

>>14131485
She's not, that's just what EOPs are parroting

>>14131485
NTA but maybe this is an indication?
Debut stream too

She has really good rigging

>>14131485
>>14131606
You dont know what GFE is.

>>14131828
So acting cute uwu is gfe now?

>>14131828
G-irl F-riend E-experience. Never doubt me again.

>>14117465
Very autistic at the beginning. She's sets up all sorts of equipment and costumes and experiments with different styles and after each shot she collects your cum in a vial and then pulls out spread sheets calculating which technique produces the most amount of cum in the least amount of time. These sessions could last hours. After around a month she finally settled down on the perfect technique for the rest of your life and make sure you stay healthy for she will drop you if the amount of cum you produce is insufficient.

>>14123389
Be lazy, you mean? She is based for actually giving a fuck and grinding using all possible ways. It's not like she's just sitting there and asking people to subscribe while doing nothing. Have you seen many vtubers who stream 4 times a day in their first week?
>muh fun
It's a cope for losers. Working hard to achieve your goals and trying to improve yourself is a good thing.
>>14126274
>La+ at 19
Huh, so she was still underage when she streamed under Re:AcT?
>>14130922
Why would I care about "real personality"? It's roommate shit and I'm not into that. What chuuba shows on stream is real to me because I don't have a way to know if she's actually like this and I don't want to know. Her streaming persona is fun to watch? Good, I'll watch her. Her streaming persona doesn't seem entertaining to me? Fine, I won't watch her but there are probably people who like this kind of stuff. Simple as. They are entertainers, why would you even think about this in any other way if you're not a groomerschizo dreaming of chuubas showing you their "real personality" personally someday?

>Because they csnr defend shit.
They know this bitch is absolutely horrendous, she literally studied English for 3 months prior to her debut according to her JUST for this, she literally took a thing out of every single popular chuuba like haachama, coco, marine, pekora, rushia... Etc and just tries to mix it all in one. This is how you know she's as fake as it gets, because she knows her real personality is shit and boring and she's got nothing to offer, orcucks know this too so they try to deflect. What comes naturally to other chuubas she has to do consciously which is why she's so careful with what she does, so the cucks try to reflect rather than prove that she's anything other than what I just said

>>14131945
>Be lazy, you mean?
So begging for subs instead of trusting your content to convince people is not being lazy, ok. Im glad one person in gen 6 isn't lazy.

>>14132073
She pumps content daily already. So your only problem is the fact that she asks people to subscribe to her?

>>14132073
You act like she's holding them at gun point forcing them to sub. They wouldn't sub if they disliked her content, she's just reminding those who may have forgotten.

Can't believe Chloe created a new kind of /vt/ sister. I thought only twitter had the envious 2 viewers but I guess this hellhole has everything.

Half of these retards would run out of shit to say if she shows any kind of gratitude.

>>14131945
>>14131954
>>14132149
>>14132162
>>14132185
The absolute state of orcucks, how insecure can you be to just try your best to make arguments that don't even exist, this is just a sad sight to see.
Once this whore actually settles down I feel bad about the new fans she'll attract because they'll just be hated by association of this is the best they can come with right now.
But hey, what do I know? Keep inhaling the copium

>>14131945
>if you don't shamelessly numberfag, you're lazy
Is is your mind on numberfagging. There is a good middleground, and that's something that most ENs actually do. I'm not against her at all, but it's really making it hard to root for her. A good streamer would trust her content to bring the subs. It's like she doesn't trust her content to carry her at all. I don't even know what's wrong with her, even though La+ and Coyote do the same, it's not as aggressive and on the face.

Support her all you want, and that's good. You just have to accept that there are some people who doesn't like her style of promoting herself. It makes her cuteness less genuine.

>>14132222
She already did, but it's not like anyone who shits on her watches streams or understands Japanese.

>>14132162
Just like when that ad reminds those who may have forgotten to play "RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS".
While I don't think Chloe is a whore just for asking people to sub but Ads and call to actions are annoying, especially if done repeatedly, for a reason. To pretend otherwise is retarded.

>>14132295
People willingly join her stream, can't say the same for those getting raid shoved into their faces.

>>14132248
I'm not the one wasting my time here getting mad that some girl is asking me to sub to her. You know you could just watch your oshi and ignore other vtubers you don't like, right?

>>14132255
Post proof

>>14132255
>HE DOESNT EVEN UNDERSTAND JAPANESE REEEEEEE

>>14131390
>>14131472
I like Laplus more as well, but she streams exclusively debuff content.

Chloe came out the gate swinging with two karaoke streams, a horror game and westoid pandering Undertale.

Meanwhile half of Laplus' streams have been zatsudans and the other half are gacha games. I don't know what she's thinking.

>>14132162
>You act like she's holding them at gun point forcing them to sub
what are you even talking about? Read what you replied to again. You guys think she's based for begging for subs. There's a clear difference between reminding at the end of a stream vs begging for subs multiple times a stream. Which relevant holo begs for subs like Chloe does, please tell me.

>>14132377
Laplus' computer is essentially toaster tier from what I gather so she's limited in what kind of games she can play without her PC shitting itself.

>>14131954
>she literally took a thing out of every single popular chuuba
You know I can see that, but I think that itself isn't a terrible thing because it's their job to appeal after all. A lot of holos copy from other streamers and each other. Haachama incorporates a shit ton of fan content for example. It doesn't matter as long as it's good quality.
However, I do think the Orca is being way too obvious about it and I have no idea how people keep up their suspension of disbelief in regards to her fake persona. They're all wearing their rose colored glasses because she's the new toy in the catalogue.
That worries me for one reason: If she gets away with it and becomes the highest earning Vtuber, you can expect the whole scene to become just like her. Mass produced media junkfood for the masses that cannibalizes itself.
Sad to see, but what else would you expect from Holobronies?

>>14132377
Check the Mario Party collab in Koyori's channel, she did pretty well there.

>>14132348
What logic is this? Aren't the people getting raid shoved into their faces also willingly watching whatever youtuber is shilling it?
Are people not allowed to be annoyed by the product placements in Men of Steel because they willingly went to watch it?

You know what, fuck HoloX. Myth only streamed once a day on their debut month, why is HoloX streaming 3 times a day? They're robbing their senpai fanbase! Why is Cover doing this? Is the rrat that this is Nepotism gen true?

>>14132440
Gura's was at first and look where she is now. Hololive is a very good company to join if you want a new computer. Go look at her Among the Sleep stream and how she had the settings on low.

Chloe sees "pweasy subscraibu" more like a catchy eigo phrase, just like we keep repeating japanese stuff just because it has a nice ring to it.

Only orange chicken has managed to garner as much catalog seethe as the orca. I kneel.

>>14132504
Do orcucks really?

>>14132354
>You know you could just watch your oshi and ignore other vtubers you don't like, right?
You know my points make sense in your head, otherwise you just wouldn't care about what anyone says on this board.
And while I do exclusively just watch my oshi, some things just can't be left unsaid.
She's a narcissistic self indulgent ungrateful whore who cares less about hololive than any member I've seen before.
Not even Kiara or mori are up to par with this garbage.

>>14132504
you Chloefags are actually coping hard, holy shit

>>14132452
Pretty sure there’s a big difference between Haachama using fan content and Chloe picking personality aspects

>>14132498
>>14132440
>>14132377
much worse than that. She's an Okinawan poorfag who uses free wifi and has to play gacha games on the COVER Iphone5 to stream it

>>14132531
Ok. Keep malding about a girl you'll probably never watch anyway. I'm pretty sure your oshi is happy that you're doing this service.

>>14132531
Why would you bring Kiara into this? Her along side Ame are probably the EN members that care most about Hololive

>>14132515
>>14132538
Don't forget loan words, the japanese use english words without understanding OUR nuance of it, they just make up their own nuance.
It's clear that there's a culture shock here, what is commonly associated with this phrase to us doesn't have the same implication to JPs, they don't shame others for asking to subscribe so this culture never existed on their side.

>>14132504
THE COPE HOLY SHIT
"cute girl begs for things by begging in a cute manner" is the mantle of every single whore on this earth.
A lot of members do actually say stuff like "don't forget to sub to my channel" but this and that are different things, and if you can't see tha then I don't know... Orcucks have fallen even further than chumkeks, what a sad sight to see... That a jp fanbase is like this.

>>14132540
>Haachama went schizo is her true personality i swear.
These fake personality rrat is so stupid.

>>14132581
Why is everyone losing their shit cause she's begging for subs anyways? Who gives a shit?

>>14132566
I will save her

What's interesting to me is that when Laplus or Koyori or Lui debuted everyone was very supportive of them. The moment Chloe debuts though all of the other Holomems start to get extremely catty and overly sensitive. Just goes to show you the true nature of women at the end of the day. If they feel like their popularity is threatened then the mask comes off.

>>14132581
Your point would make more sense if other holos did this. Chloe's English and understanding seems to be among the best of the JP holos.

>>14132629
>all of the other Holomems start to get extremely catty and overly sensitive
???

>>14109476
Delusional, she acts like this because she knows men wekk

>>14132540
One is respecting your audience and the other one is being ingenuine.

>>14132629
Meds

>>14132295
>>14132250
>>14132248
Ask me how I know you haven't seen even 1 or 2 of her streams from beginning to end, excluding the debut. Chloe really doesn't do much more than any JP holo in that regard. And even if she did why should it matter if she's not just farming subs by repeating pwease subscwibe multiple times, but pumping out various content at amazing rate?
And it's so retarded to call her out for trying to appeal to English speaking audience.
>all chuubas should pander to me! They should sing English songs instead of their weeb shit, they should sub their videos in English, they should learn English just so I could understand them! ME ME ME
>why is she pandering to EOPs?? What a fake bitch
Rumao.

>>14132354
>Ignore the cancer. It will not spread if you forget it exists
Thanks doc!

>>14132601
But we already know her real personality anon, it's been said many times before by multiple other members that haachama is in fact very hyper, it's true that sometimes on stream she amps it up a bit but that's not faking your persona, your just emphasizing it to be more enjoyable.
As for the schizo stuff, you do understand the definition of a "story" right?
What Chloe does is like piecing in a new personality over her own just because she wants to act like all the subs and fame she got was well earned.

>>14119972
How many days did it take for IRyS to get 500k?

>>14132629
It makes you think when the holos who are all fake can tell when a member is pushing that to the extreme, to the point where they don't even respect her.

>>14108972
we can thank that JK succubi Hitomi Chris for that

>>14132732
>cancer
You mean the 10+ threads talking about her? Or how when Kiara was the old target here? Or how people here spend most of their time talking shit out of their asses and not even watching vtubers? Sorry dude, but she's way less cancerous than the hundreds of western 2 viewers that shriek when they hear "loli" or when people use Japanese names for their vtuber persona.

I.Refuse.To.Have.GFE.at The toP
At least with Pekora, Laplus, and Gura people can understand that they're funny
With Chloe, people will just think of us as horny losers

>>14132724
No one is talking about her fucking content dumbass, but the way she pushes the content is just so fucking ingenuine that people don't care about what she streams anymore but they're watching her to see what cute things she does next
Every single post I've seen about her on here can be a summed up as "she's cute" with a sprinkle of "she can sing decently" other than that? Nothing.

>>14132812
God forbid people talk about Vtubers on /vt/. We truly have lost our ways.

Idc what retards think, i'll continue to like this Dorca

>>14105669
She still has her 2view mindset from years of being a nobody, give her some time to adjust

>>14127843
Mostly doing bits and asking for more numbers like the mainstream youtube shit that made people move to Vtubers in the first place. From what I've seen there's also too much of her personality based around "success bait" and she ends up feeling corporate manufacturated enough that even nips are starting to notice.

Maybe it's just me, but I got the impression that the over reliance on "please subscribe" was more due to her lack of english vocabulary than anything else. She doesn't say it anywhere near as often in japanese. And as others said, maybe no cultural perception of this as a negative thing. "Please like and subscribe" may not be a phrase used ironically to shitpost by japanese zoomers.

>>14132873
>talk
Oh yeah, because that's exactly what /vt/ does. People definitely don't come here to create dumb drama, spread wrong information, bait other with some of the lowest quality posts in this whole site and spam more buzzwords than a fucking redditor.

>>14132845
>Caring about what others think of your hobby about virtual muppets
That tells a lot about your life.

>>14132900
Her design is pretty sex. Not gonna lie.

>>14131390
>>14132845
Who the fuck are you redditors

I just wanted something to believe in... a beautiful dream I could trust. I wanted something genuine like that.

>>14133039
>4 bait threads
Would've thought there was more with the amount of crying

>>14133037
based hachiman with the personality of the batman

>>14132995
It has nothing to do with orcas though. Without the hood she just looks like a regular German girl.

>>14132945
>lack of English vocabulary
Doesn't she mog haachama according to everyone here and is only second to A-chan?
She obviously does it on purpose because she knows that "cute engrish pander to EOPs"
She can absolutely say it correctly rather than being so moe about it, if anyone thinks she doesn't do it on purpose then they haven't actually watched a stream.

>>14132747
>but we already know her real personality anon
Please don't tell me you actually believe this
>haachama went schizo for a story
She went schizo cause her audience liked it. But sure chloe acting cute because her audience liked it is fake.

>>14133136
The black and white is prominent and it complements the "assassin" theme.

>>14132970
Oh so a hand full of nobodies who share opinions in a niche forum are a real problem but a major figure in the Vtuber sphere that makes everyone involved look bad in the long run shouldn't even be discussed?
I suggest you go back to Twitter or Discord or whatever where you blocked everyone and continue to live in your bubble if you can't handle it.

>>14133149
That’s just shitposting. Haachama has the best English out of the JPs not counting A-chan

>>14132934
When even the nips are starting to notice it and talking about it then that's pretty telling.

>real reason why people are seething
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke

Why are orcucks so rude? Can't we have civilized discussion?

>>14130310
twitch thots don't really act that cute at all

>>14133149
I'm not talking about the pronunciation, her pronunciation is indeed very good and she's making it cutesy on purpose, I'm talking about not having much to say to fill the gaps, so she goes with phrases she memorized, such as "Guys, please subscribe", which she doesn't do nearly as often when speaking in her native language.
Haachama speaks like a retard, but she's capable of forming her own phrases on the fly and holding actual conversations, which is something you won't see from someone like Sora, who is regularly praised for her pronunciation as well.
How good you are at mimicking sounds has little to do with your understanding of a language, and anyone thinking there's a single soul in JP who can compare to someone who lived in an english-speaking country now that Coco is gone is delusional. The only one I can see having a real chance is Lui, from the little I've seen, Chloe is not even close.

>>14133174
>bubble
That's really funny coming from here. Also, she's absolutely not the worst thing in the industry right now, specially since she's been streaming for less than a week. Maybe she becomes that menace for the hobby in a month, or 6 months, or a year, or 2 years. How many times did /vt/ say that Kiara would ruin Hololive? Then Mori? Then Ina? Then Sana? Then Kronii? Then Ayame? And now it seems that Chloe is the new target. Yeah, I'm glad I'm not part of your bubble.

>>14133358
They are.
t. Pokimane Simp.

>>14133355
>sucker punches someone
>Wait, why are you angry? That's rather rude of you.

>>14133370
>Maybe she becomes that menace for the hobby in a month, or 6 months, or a year, or 2 years.
You explained how cancer works and why you don't ignore it.

>>14133159
>please don't tell me you actually believe this
Well I'd rather believe the words of chuubas who actually know her and hung out with heron multiple occasions than some deflecting retard.
>She went schizo cause her audience liked it. But sure chloe acting cute because her audience liked it is fake.
This is so wrong in every conceivable way, I can't believe some people genuinely think like this.
And this is not just about haachama specifically either, these a difference between role-playing and ingenuity.
She's not putting this character because she enjoys it, but because she wants to milk money out of dumbasses like you.

>>14133421
kek

>>14133421
Just like all the ones I described, some of them streaming for longer than a year, ruined it all, right? Hell, people have been saying the Stars would ruin Hololive when vtubers were a /jp/ thing. Still waiting for it.

>>14133367
The first person to actually make a reasonable point on her side of things, if down the line this turned out to be true then sure.
But I still highly doubt this is the case given how she acts normally.

>>14133136
Not going to lose sleep over her theming. She is just jerk off material. Like Vei.

>>14133367
>compare to someone who lived in an english-speaking country
Mori proves living abroad has no bearing on langauge proficiency

>>14133626
Fair enough, I should have added that she went to school there as well. That said, Mori's japanese is also better than Chloe's english, comparatively. She has terrible gaijin pronunciation as well, but she's able to communicate with JP talents and work with them, even if with some difficulty. Chloe does not seem to be ready to hold an english only collab with HoloEN, from what I've seen.
It won't take her long at all to get to that level, however, if she really got to her current level with only 3 months, let's not go to the opposite extreme either, it is impressive. It's just that people saying it's better than Haachama are clearly shitposting.

>>14105669
She's not my favorite (samurai stole my heart with the jump king streams), but I love how hard she blew the fuck out of cunny fags. Big titty Orca made them kneel.

>>14133438
>>14133438
>
If that's what you want to believe then sure. What i'm saying is, if you wanna know their REAL personality (not idol personality), you have to check their roomate.
>
So? They're both roleplaying. Haachama roleplaying herself going schizo, chloe roleplaying herself being a cute PON. Why is chloe the only one ingenuine?

I don't see these buttblasted fucks seething at Rushia's whole existence even though she's the OG manipulative whore so why the double standard?

I'm convinced that most people who don't understand why people call her fake are either EOPs or don't watch a lot of vtubers, her pandering and fake personality are extremely obvious to the point of being too awkward to seriously watch.

>>14134373
Sure Jakarta man, I'm sure that's what the JOPs in 5ch are saying.

>>14134373
Everyone knows it's an act in the same way Pekora is an act.

why are people mad about this girl?
she's just doing the same thing the rest are, she's just honest about it

>>14134679
Envy, seething their oshi got btfoed in terms of numbers this week, and being mad that people are having a good time.

>>14134479
https://files.catbox.moe/jolcoo.mp4

>>14134679
Same thing happened with EN. People tried to start shit with Gura, but when that didn't work they moved on to Kiara.

>>14134792
So they're going to move on to Iroha next? Damn it.

>>14134660
>b-but don't you know pekora isn't a real rabbit?
This is what I mean, it's not just about having a character. You can even compare her to Laplus or Lui from the same gen, if you can't see a difference in terms of geniuine personality vs fabricated character then your perception is simply not sharp enough.

>>14134837
It's more likely they'll move on to La+. There's already threads here saying she's a failure because she's not the first anymore.

>>14134898
The fact that someone is comparing her to haachama's schizo play if all things just baffle me

>>14134910
That makes sense. La+ has the kind of personality that people can call "annoying" and start writing up narratives about how she's secretly a bitch. I hate /vt/ shitposters. I have to get out of here.

>>14134837
>>14134910
You guys mean lui-nee, right? She's already forgotten that people think holox with the lowest number is iroha

>>14134991
Lui's like the Ina or Rosemi of the group, she's not doing great but people like her too much to shitpost her.

>>14134296
Because Rushia's shtick is original. I am guessing that Chloe's behavior is rubbing some people the wrong way is because it is so obviously manufactured.
Kinda like a Nina situation. People love mommydom, but it matters who does it and how.

>>14134991
Lui doesn't have a strong enough personality to make people go retarded like how it happened with Kiara. She's way too chill. Iroha also doesn't seem like an easy target for shitposting. It'll be either La+ or Koyori, with the former being way more likely.

>>14134991
I really thought she'd be the one I disliked the most but she's really cute and nice and sweet
"entropy nani?" fucking adorable

>>14134779
>>14134779
>Posts le 4chan bear
Away dadfag. You're literally not only using the opinion of a jealous women, but a 2view, one would fit in crystal cafe.

>>14135143
she was just actually imitating chloe but don't let that get in the way of the bearschizo and you're retarded seethe2view/people-other-than-retards-hate-chloe narrative

>>14134660
I keep seeing this sentiment being parroted and I can't believe people are this dense to completely miss the point.
Obviously Luna isn't a 0 year old baby princess. Yet no one is complaining about her being fake.
It is the level of cynicism that has to be involved in creating a persona for milking gachikoi and metagaming her debut that is turning some people off.
>inb4 "your oshi isn't real either"/"seethe"

Damn this thread reeks of angry 2views and actual manchildren
Unironically stay mad as she climbs the ladder and is just playing the game

>>14135325
read >>14135281 you dumb fag

>>14123450
literally every vtuber is a gold digging ewhore hiding behind an anime girl facade. If you don't like it you shouldn't be participating in vtuber fandom shit to begin with, because that's the truth of it no matter how forward or not they are about it

>>14135800
Meanwhile Lulu exists...

>>14135800
Chloe is being too open about it though.
She literally say "i love money" on stream

Go back on hating Kiara you pathetic losers.

HOLY BASED! Vtsisters are we gonna get another shitpost spam thread to bump limit???

>>14135469
>metagaming her self
Alright dude, I hope the judges are giving you high scores for these acrobatics youre putting yourself through to justify jealousy
There is no metagame to life, she's cute, oh nyooooooo
I can't believe Ayame metagames barely working by simply showing up, laughing and collecting 15k in spacha
I can't believe your own mother didn't metagame life by having a son who doesn't sit on here and seethe about a vtuber having half a million youtube subs on a mongolian recipe forum

>>14105805
Again with the backhanded attempts to put down Council? This thread is completely unrelated stop breaking containment and turning HoloX vs. Council into console wars.

>>14130033
I'm glad that people can finally admit that Connor was right

>>14134373
Its sad, you can like Chloe and admit this. The fact that Chloefags keep comparing her to other holos shows they dont understand the point.

>>14123210
based bea

>>14105669
Speak in my language or I won't subscribe to you, japanese whore beggar. I only watch streamers who are intelligible

>>14133391
>Pokimane
>cute

>>14136069
Lol eggs are now seething that all their work building up Kiara hatred in years has crumbled due to Chloe and now everybody's forgotten to hate Kiara because they're busy focusing on Chloe. It's over, this is the end for eggs.

I don't dislike chloe but i'm just baffled so many guys don't understand she's playing up the cuteness thing intentionally

>>14137079
this is literally why they're pissed though, hav you read the thread anon?

>>14133391
Roadkill is cuter than her

>>14131919
>technique for the rest of your life
hell

>>14131919
>letting a woman decide what you do in the bedroom
might aswell buy her a strap-on and let her peg you, faggot

The "please subscribe" thing doesn't bother me. I have seen youtube before. I can't look up how to descale a kettle without some cunt asking me to like and subscribe as if I'm going to be coming back for more.

What really boils my piss about chloe is how she still hasn't linked her genmates on her channel. Seems to suggest a lot to me.

>>14137002
rent free

>>14139244
Seems to suggest a lot about your mental health. Iroha hasn't linked them either btw.

>>14139244
Since you started this schizo rrat, let me take it even further
Have you noticed that everyone in gen6 have collabed with one another except her? First group chat after debut is obligation so it doesn't count.

>>14139810
She has 2 collabs with Lui next week.

>>14139244
Even La+ added them after the first day. Heck, Lui now has all the Holos.

>>14130310
But she's cute

>>14105669
yes my queen