/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

this one

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14078461
So she’s finally gone.

>>14078461
hag thread?

Huh, interesting, it seems like the nips are trying to decide who should be the new four heavenly kings
https://twitter.com/gvDsi6kW1M2wthW/status/1467179736225185794?s=20

Yeah, given the magnitude of the news, I'd go with this one
Sr mangaOP anon

Also,
>>14078273
>>14078344
>>14078371
>>14078437

I don't think we need that kind of title anymore, consider most of them would just be Hololive anyway, it kinda defeated the purpose

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>93,815: Shion (Hololive)
>76,326: Pekora (Hololive)
>53,477: Chloe (Hololive)
>45,509: Fubuki (Hololive)
>38,366: Fubuki (Hololive)
>37,748: Koyori (Hololive)
>33,774: Chloe (Hololive)
>30,133: Marine (Hololive)
>29,764: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,137: Laplus (Hololive)
>26,390: Chloe (Hololive)
>24,549: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>23,964: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,403: Miko (Hololive)
>22,291: Iroha (Hololive)
>22,235: Flare (Hololive)
>20,619: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,291: Iroha (Hololive)
>20,113: Suisei (Hololive)
>20,021: Lui (Hololive)
>19,244: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,915: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,847: Pekora (Hololive)
>13,515: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>13,187: Fauna (Hololive)
>13,016: Joe Rikiichi (Nijisanji)
>12,496: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,565: Flare (Hololive)
>11,477: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,366: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,043: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,852: Kizuna A.I. (Activ8)
>10,570: Amelia (Hololive)
>10,065: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)

>>14078695
>1 like

>>14078705
Holo 9 - 1 Niji
Kuzuha refused to give Holo a clean swipe yet again

Also:
>10,852: Kizuna A.I. (Activ8)

>>14078695
https://twitter.com/uji_aso/status/1416659532076392448?s=20
Kek

>>14078705
oh shit ai chan is in the list.

>>14078705
Kuzuha saving the top 10 from a clean sweep....
Still
18 Hololive
2 Nijisanji
This sort of lopsided beating in the top 20....when will it end...

>>14078798
Graduation announcement

On a less important news:
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1467163699832311810

IRySoda is real

>>14078859
"Indefinite Hiatus", but yea. Looks like it's not a complete graduation considering her monetization remains and so do her archives, but the future for Ai certainly looks grim.

>>14078885
https://youtu.be/pw1ibXP5tvM
yeah the frame is already up bro

i think i got the numberrot, how do i go back to enjoying things again without caring about how many views they get

>>14078705
20 20k +

>>14079005
hit your head again

>>14079005
Find a oshi.

A questions for anons here:
When Twitter showing this number, does that means all-time number, or just number from a specific period of time?
Because this looks like a lot

>>14079005
watch 2views anon

>>14078974
Soda fanatic and Soda play a game involving a pair of cups.
Perfect.

>>14079005
it's a sign you are not a groomer

>>14078844
Hopefully never, it's funny to see niji being beaten so badly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LeL22KwJmA

Hime is on Cynthia

>>14079086
Since it started trending, so relatively recent tweets

>>14079005
You can't. For me, whenever I try to cool off, I would always be reminded that Holonumbers is on par with most high-rated, not top-rated streamers on Twitch.

Hololive can really be considered a big streamer group in the east.

>>14079064
I have a hard time watching my oshi nowadays because her numbers are bad.

>>14079146
Not yet, but she'll be there soon.

>>14078705
King saving niji from top10 holo dominance once again.

enna...

>>14079175
Yea, Hololive right now....good grief, they literally rule their timeslot, I'm pretty sure only Jun and some non-gaming streamers and occasionally the strawberry faggots beat them out nowadays.
It's stupid. Take us back, back to summer....

>>14079211
She already wiped once

>>14079296
>8 minutes
C'mon anon, at least give her until 30 before you start doomposting about NijiEN.

Yup it seem Kiara slipped it again. Chances we get Myth outfit next week
The numbers should be insane

https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1467126402558599171
https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1467124922158030849

That makes two Holos
One with Ai as her Oshi
The other is JP1

>>14079349
Oh!
Good, better for her numbers then.
Hopefully she breaks 10k and makes a rare appearance on the list.

>>14079397
wait a minute wouldn't that overlap with Shion's birthday?

>>14079397
This btch should shut the fuck up. Drop the date, stop teasing. And wtf chickens, stop asking Kiara. You are both a headache

A question which Holo members will reach a million subs by next Holo Fest and will Pekora and Mori reached the 2 million subs mark by then

>>14079397
Oh ffs.
And you wonder why management kept her in the dark about when IRyS would debut. You stupid broad, this is how you get blackballed from sensitive info and dates.

Hime on the charts, at 3AM JP time.

>>14079488
>Mori
yes
>Pekora
It depends if her luck gives her another arc.

>>14079296
>>14079386
Massive improvement considering this is how much she got for the first game she played.

>>14079345
Nijisanji, vshojo, and now Ai herself is having an absolutely horrible end of the year, whereas Hololive is pretty much the hottest it's ever been since golden week.

>>14079488
Mori yes Pekora probably not.
You know the slow and steady meme? Pekora is that but except it's not a meme.

>>14079561
Well, an improvement is an improvement. Maybe if EN management sees NijiEN inclining, they'll be more inclined to actually CARE about their numbers just a teeeensy bit more.

>>14079407
Let Ai collab with her oshi as her last wish

>>14079397
was it confirmed this time? chicken loves to run her mouth before getting any confirmation on things

>>14079651
anon do you even look at the numbers before you spout your bullshit?

Realized how the 4 who didn't sing in this song popularized vtubers in the globally as if Yagoo already knew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQ2GtvDV3s&t=108s

>Calli singing Off with your head live on YT Music Weekend
Kek

>>14079716
Both Kiara and Mori already said that the dates are set in previous streams

>>14079617
how does he do it?

>>14079616
Pekora's incline moments always come from luck or unconventional content. I mean logically Metal gear playthroughs are streamer unfriendly since it involves alot of exposition dumps and stealth gameplay, and yet it is her incline moment.

>>14079802
it's all premieres, meaning some youtube staff monkey already gave it greenlight

>>14079786
I meant sometime in the far, far, far, far, FAR future.
I know what the numbers look like NOW, it's not even a contest for anyone except Sana, who's basically hellbent to be an ANTI-numberfag. Its just I abhor monopolies on principle, as the results almost always end poorly for consumers.

>>14079849
Kek.

>>14078974
let's fucking go

On another less funny news
>Sora:"Good night guys. Oh by the way, Ai-chan is fakin ded yo"
D-daisenpai ...

>>14079397
Retard, you're a week late with that knowledge.

>>14079663
She wont because will ruin her relationship with China and with reading the annoucement, they're preparing mote stuff to sell and I bet China is in the table.
It could be a final Fuck You to her managers and sponsor and put her in the good side for one last time but I dont expect it.

>>14079849
>picrel

I wonder if Ai no longer being the "most subscribed vtuber in the world" affected her clout with the big corps. Her having that title pretty much assured that she remained somewhat relevent despite the trainwreck that was happening inside Upd8 and Mito surging as the de facto uncrowned king of vtubers in 2019. Now that Hololive pretty much has claimed every statistical metric (Subs, VODs, CCV, SC's), has presumably the new age version of the Heavenly Kings (Pekora, Gura, Marine, Suisei) and is now being picked up by more and more corpos, it makes me think that Ai isn't getting as much non-chink company support hence why she's shilling NFT's pretty damn hard.

streams for the day so far

>>14079964
>Sora still grudging at Aifags for calling her a copy
Kek based daisenpai, you owe her nothing

>>14079896
Not all but yeah, this one is.

>>14079925
Hololive is the one who broke the monopoly, newfag.

>>14080028
That used to be one of her biggest marketing slogans.
Since Gura took the crown, it's been "the first vtuber" or something.

>>14080028
She's still doing fine on other platforms. It's may be because she's slowly getting outed due to chinese policies and the presence of A-Soul is ruining her too, Hololive leaving was probably a huge impact to Japanese vtubers in China.

>>14080091
I'm aware of that as well damnit, I just want more competition overall though, even if end result is less BIG numbers and more "good numbers" overall.

>>14080093
Which isn't exactly as enticing. Being "first" but not the "biggest" usually means that you fucked up your first mover advantage and another rival company is kicking your ass.

>>14080168
just enjoy, hololive has even yet to peak

>>14079005
I would say the first thing is stop going to /#/, if you have an ohsi, try to enjoy her content. If not try to find one? Either that or step away from the hobby for a while.

>>14079925
Anon... upd8 and nijisanji was the one that monopolized the market. You are basically irrelevant if you are outside their circle. Upd8 killed itself and holo resistance btfo nijisanji from their further monopoly.

>>14080168
Stop being a faggot and just enjoy. There's no need for competition in Hololive. Nijisanji, VShojo and Sony vtubers is already destroyed. Even chinese vtubers.

Looking at bili2, if I had to equate numbers to it, I'd be using that big vtuber event with tons of nijis last week that got 4-5k on YT and an asoul member got double than that. So, VShojo = ASoul in terms of numbers. They aren't on Hololive's level even if you tell me one of them got $200k+ this month.

>>14080168
you say that as if holos were a single entity instead of several streamers competing with each other for supremacy

>>14080206
>Niji was No.1
>Niji had first move adv
>Niji fucked up
Hmmmmm ...

>>14080168
I don't if the competition just ends up being more VShoujo shit. It's like trying to endorse a turd instead of chocolate just so the consumer has "more options". The market ultimately is the one who chooses. Japan initially chose Nijisanji (hence why they had the initial monopoly) but fucked up somehow and now the market decided to look to Hololive as an alternative. If Hololive fucks up, a new alternative is going to show up somehow and become the new "monopoly"

ruuna 10k

>>14080349
>Nijisanji, VShojo and Sony vtubers is already destroyed

I wish, Niji still has a bit of life left and Vshojo is sadly inclining.

>>14079175
It's time for some humbling then.

What are the chances a Holo member is also going to mog Kizuna's last concert?

>>14080508
What is Gura doing here?

>>14080508
What's up with Goomba's numbers.

>>14080508
>Tehnoblade number
What the fu-

>>14079798
didnt even notice that, good catch

>>14080583
minecraft kids audience, same with dream

>>14080418
Okay, in an ideal world...
Ah damnit forget it, I'll just sit back and enjoy what we have now and stop worrying about this sorta nonsense that isn't even for ME to worry about.

>>14080505
>vshojo inclining
get out of your timeloop
their big 3 is either stagnated or slighting falling

>>14080508
>1009 streams
You can say a lot against the bunny but lazy isn't one of them

>>14080583
Once a week, and is a MC streamer on the dream SMP. Unsurprisingly, biggest streamers of the biggest game in the world who utilize rarity buffs pull MASSIVE numbers. Hololive still isn't at their level yet.

>>14080505
>Vshojo is sadly inclining.
11k on 3d idol outfit debut, lower than nijien debut

>>14080519
I would laugh if it's a terrible pekora Mario kart stream

>>14080795
Sportfes total number is like ... 1/3 of that number holy fuck

>>14080519
That will be the day pekora reveals her costume.

>>14080883
There you go. Numberrot should be suitably staved for a bit, now go enjoy some streams in the meantime.

>>14080761
Good time for some good old grudgeposting.

>>14080519
I very much doubt it'll get more than 50k, so chances are high

Mori 14K at the very end

>>14080795
>Hololive still isn't at their level yet.
on ccv perhaps

>>14080056
what did kizuna ai do to you?

>>10639037
OH NO NO NO NO NO VSHITTER

>>14080795
>>14080508
Not something I'd be humbled from, I mean, everyone here already pointed out that they're minecraft streamers. Children who only watch MC videos are likely to watch them when they stream. Sure, they can get those numbers, but what about other games? Can they get the same numbers playing FFXIV, doing Karaokes, Mario kart with viewers etc, delivering a nice sponsorship video for a game? There's a reason being a variety streamer is better than being a one trick pony.

>>14080761
Unless twitchtracker is wrong Nyanners has been inclining the entire year somehow.

>>14080925
Oh that's rude, but not undeserved.
>>14081116
No anon! Don't let it set in any further, YOU MUST BREAK FREE FROM THE RROT LEST IT AFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO ENJOY STREAMS.

>>14080925
I wonder if the vshitshow nigger is still in this thread, mentions of vshojo around these parts basically vanished ever since the nux thing broke

Something I haven't noticed before
>Gura channel is listed under Japan
I guess since she's under Hololive, but still ...

>>14081169
No, it's not incorrect, they've been inclining when trended across the year, but as of late they're more stable/stagnant. Basically, longterm trend vs short-term.

>>14081215
anon... all Holo channels are under JP

>>14080925
Holy mother of gurdgeposting

>>14081169
shorten the time period to months instead of years

>>14081116
Anon pls let your numberrot calm off or else some anon will pull out xqc or tyler1's variety stream numbers.

>>14080925
We should make this the next op

>>14081116
No one in the world can get the same views in every every stream for comparison xqc gets 130k if he reacting to masterchef and 70k playing gta

>HEY ANONS!
Don't worry about this whole Kizuna thing!

It is only the soul that is dying but activ8 will keep her memory alive through
>NFTs
and
>Clones
and whatever else zhangs can think of after they buy the assets and the brand name like they did with (for instance) with Jeep and Saab

>Faunaschizo absent from this thread
>Fallenshadow debuting in a few hours >>14076742
COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

>>14080508
>8 times a week

>>14081674
NFTs, really?

>>14081812
....Did....did you not see her shill an NFT earlier this year?
https://twitter.com/metaani2/status/1438339743956144143

>>14081716
Huh, she's at 1.1k on debut. Pretty good for an indie.

>>14081879
yeah, I did, I just didn't expect her to come right out and say "I'm going on break to think of a better way to shill NFTs" like that

>>14081674
Is this you anon?
>picrel
Were you fell for this coin? Kek

>>14081921
I mean when you think about it the first Virtual Youtuber promoting virtual currency fits the theme

>>14081882
>MOGGED BY CRUNCHY-HIME

M O G G E D
O
G
E
G
D

>>14081384
Tyler1 cooking was the best content I ever watch. Especially that episode where he make a camp fire and failed to chop the wood then he just quit

I can take pride on my oshi, Ina, being the biggest art streamer

>TOYA UPPING THE STAKES FOR TOMORROW
In November or October this would be pretty much a close race, together with "SLIP"posting

In September this would be a done deal for gold

>>14080519
Pekora Chloe gonna sandwich her

>>14082115
>Chloe unarchive
Yeah, no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0y82XZGCM

R-Rushia? At this hour?
Also ...

>>14082115
>Chloe sings in english
Nothing personal, literal who.

>>14082156
dead cat, fucked up sleep

nijisanji lost subs what?
https://twitter.com/P2yjp/status/1467146935622860806

>>14082156
I can save her

>>14082242
Bora got deleted

>>14082242
Bora graduated I think

>>14082289
wait wasn't her channel supposed to be still up after she graduated?

>>14082126
>Pekuroe collab
imagine...

>>14082289
>>14082308
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1ZV7KBscK0EMoJKFu1DnDg
its still here isnt it?

>>14082289
nope her subs are still there
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1ZV7KBscK0EMoJKFu1DnDg/videos

>>14082324
They don't count dead accounts I'm guessing.

>>14082242
when was the last update? a month ago?

>>14082336
It doesn't line up, if she's removed they would've lost somewhere in the vincinity of 200k subs, not 50k

>>14082242
MASAKA! The "susan purge" got Nijisanji harder than Hololive?

That would be a first

>>14082361
Others still gain subs

>>14082346
https://twitter.com/P2yjp/status/1464610175487070209
last week

>>14082242
Guess which company has three times more members.

>>14081674
when Non-chan becomes suddenly active during the hiatus and go P-maru on the company, hell would break loose.

>>14082318
All but three of her videos are gone, and those are all covers

>>14082390
so the 150 other nijis got just about 1k subs each for an entire month?

>>14082410
If it's last week, then it's before Bora. How did they even lose 50k subs lol

>>14082446
A week

>>14082336
looks like it, niji gained 200k last week but lost 50k this week. bora's channel has 260k subs

12k peak for Luna at close to 4 am, mogging literally all of Nijisanji streaming at the time. A very good performance indeed.

>>14082156
And it looks like the Hololive pokemon train only has a very brief respite before starting up again, this time with what looks like menhera Rushia's Nuzlocke challenge!

>>14081674
>>14082417
> when Non-chan becomes suddenly active during the hiatus and go P-maru on the company, hell would break loose.
I truly doubt, she must have been saddled with a EHFTY golden parachute to bow out without a graduation

>>14082242
oh nyo-peko

>>14082484
Fuck
I wonder if any of her translator can be up at this cursed time
I hope she's okay

>WHAT THE FLYING FUCK!?
WHAT HAPPENED HERE?

Did she get funneled or did a Haachama tier of "no fear of getting banned, literally vibrating machine to orgasm (real or simulated)" ASMR this time?

Checked FallenShadow's debut. Good thing Fauna ghosted her. She has a fake-ass loli voice and is trying to hard. This is the same case where one of the gen5's finalist went and become her own vtuber thinking it was easy.

>>14082242
well well, seems like now we know who was using bots all this time

>>14082575
Just a normal ASMR stream, she got funneled when other members stopped streaming.

>>14082575
Most-subbed pro ASMR chuuba+10M Yen equip

>>14082581
>Checked FallenShadow's debut
Nice try! Not giving you an Youtube (you), FallenShadow.

I'll watch the clips of the trainwreck tho

Did someone say numbers?

>>14082633
>Most-subbed pro ASMR chuuba+10M Yen equip
That alone doesn't explain it, this is her highest solo ASMR on Holostats record in a full year, and only trails two ASMR on record, one of them being in a collab with Marine.

HoloX really buffed the whole branch, damn!

>>14081921
Isn’t that based?

Enna more than doubled her viewers since debut. Kneel. I really hope Myth/Council continues being lazy and complacent and streaming nothing but Minecraft and Pokemon. It will only make NijiEN incline more.

>>14082866
based on what

>>14082930
small numbers look cute after all the huge numbers recently

>>14082994
Seem you guys forget that even Pekora used to get these kind of numbers before. Hololive wasn't always as popular as it is right now.

>>14083072
i know, my eyes have just been washed by huge numbers these past few days its refreshing to see small numbers again

>>14082930
why are nijiniggers always this desperate?

So what are the predictions for Chloe's unarchived singing at 10 am jst? Or prime time for east coast burgers. I'll put down something realistic so you can let loose with the wild predicitons after that. Unless she gets 80k it's a clear sign that there is either no eop audience to being with or her eop pandering has backfired.

>>14082930
>Minecraft and Pokemon
Anon, Council problem is that they are NOT streaming Minecratt or Pokemon
>pic related

In all of November and December they have 16 streams of either. 11 Pokemon and 5 Minecraft.
You don't really watch Council or even know what they stream, you just parrot bullshit you hear, right?

>>14083171
gee, I don't know, does a guy who tries to sell 2k viewers as threatening hololive sound sincere to you?

>>14082767
nah she just didi it later
usually does them a little earlier when people are streaming

>>14083170
If no Gura, I say she stands a chance at 30k+.
If Gura is streaming, she might cap at 30k max.

>>14083171
Only 16, okay then!

>>14082930
call me back when she does the second part of a new game

>>14082930
aww that's fucking cute my man.
No really what the fuck do you think you're doing? Do you enjoy getting shit on or what?

>>14083287
5 Minecraft streams, last one being 15 days ago.

I can fetch the data and it would be ironic but NijiEN streamed more minecraft in the same period than Council.
Isn't that something amazing?

>>14083374
do it, this guy clearly is seeking a fight

>>14083335
>L-Lauren ... ;-(

>>14083335
>comparing someone who was getting sub 1k to long time established streamers, one which has over 1m subs
Do I need to pull the chart that shows a lot of hololive being 2views before?

>>14082767
Now check those vod views

>>14082320
I can see a master-pupil relationship being formed

>>14083457
do you want to see who have more 2view streams?

>>14083272
it has 1.4k wiating with 5hrs left i say it is 40k at least
but not sure if she might get better than 50k
her last karaoke didnt get much traction. with only half a million.

>>14083457
oh look it's the slow and steady schizo, haven't seen you in awhile

[NEWS] KIARA WAS FUCKING MAKING RRATS BY HERSELF ABOUT KIZUNA AI LIVE

>>14078461
Godspeed Oyabun.
I'll take it from here.

>>14083170
i say 50k

>>14082930
no shit, better games get better numbers and shit games get shit numbers

>>14083774
Dude... that's Minecraft. And it was the first game she played it even. It's undeniable that Enna has inclined a lot since debut.

Here is all Enna peak CCV for her whole duration so far (except the debut, which is an outlier).

Here is the difference between past Enna and present Enna
>she went from pretty much a daily streamer before 2021-11-21 to having only 7 streams after that date.

In the 14 days after that date Enna only had the following streams:

>【RING FIT ADVENTURE】Exercising & Reading Supas【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>【The Cat Lady FINALE】(๑ↀᆺↀ๑)【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>【PUNISHMENT KARAOKE】Singing Crybaby (official髭男dism) for 1hr【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>【SURPRISE COLLAB】with @Millie Parfait【NIJISANJI EN】 !!【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>【RESIDENT EVIL 7 BIOHAZARD PART II】Realizing it's a Zombie Game【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>【MARIO PARTY SUPERSTARS】w/ Chima-senpai, Millie & Reimu !!【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>【RESIDENT EVIL 7 BIOHAZARD PART 3】Moth Lady Battle 怖い【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】

This, btw, is something worth of applause. It truly seems that someone inside NijiEN management told the girls to cut the craps, to stop spamming low value streams and to start doing things that interest their audience.

This, of course mean
>less creative control
and more FOTM and collabs, meaning becoming more like HoloEN, it clearly seems.

Tomorrow I will post 2views indies and show that they’ve grown 5 times since their debut. So proud of them. Wow. Worth posting here.

>>14083842
sure, and nobody cares except for nijiniggers looking to wank themselves off. Piss off

Reminder to stop replying to the slow and steady schizo

>>14078705
bunny still indisputable vtuber queen cumsharts seething for eternity

>>14083842
>It's undeniable that Enna has inclined a lot since debut.
No she didn't? See the chart at >>14083902, she has four outliers in her most recent streams
>2706 :: 【SURPRISE COLLAB】with @Millie Parfait【NIJISANJI EN】 !!【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>2473 :: 【RESIDENT EVIL 7 BIOHAZARD PART II】Realizing it's a Zombie Game【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>1739 :: 【MARIO PARTY SUPERSTARS】w/ Chima-senpai, Millie & Reimu !!【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】
>2055 :: 【RESIDENT EVIL 7 BIOHAZARD PART 3】Moth Lady Battle 怖い【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】

I assume she'll be able to milk RE7 and collabs for a while but that's not enough to indicate an incline

>>14080508
This reminds me that vtuber arc reminds me of Minecraft youtuber arc
>people humbly build it up from nothing
>beginning "corpos" fall to greed, intra manipulation, yabs
>zoomer newfags rise up, boosted by newfag fans to millions of subs
>oldfags streaming to sub 500 viewers when they used to be at the top

>>14078705

What about Vshojo?

>>14084084
what about vshojo?

>>14084084
live-ranking doesn't carry US based channels so, unless it would win the day (and it did once, Nimu IIRC) it is not manually added as it would be too time consuming

>>14083842
>that's Minecraft
for some reason minecraft isnt a buff for niji
i understand form the jp side but from the en side it also remains true.
Still the ceiling and floor of nijiEn is so close to each other is hard to call an incline with them.
Until a month passses and we compare the avergae median.
So if you pull a chart of all the avergae views of her each day for thelast 30 days it would help your point. Assuming you have one.

>>14084151
NijiJP main Minecraft arc passed LONG time ago, and everyone who plays it are just touching up old things or interacting with random people for 5 seconds. NijiEN Minecraft is just random fucking around. I hear that Hololive has plots and shit, couple that with tons of clips documenting this, that's a recipe for NOOMBERS
Kaida Haru attempted to revive the JP server and it worked for like 3 weeks. Mayuzumi Kai even made an offline world server because everyone got bored of the servers that already existed but apparently no one's been on that one in a while.

>>14078461
Her subs finally reached 2.99M, it seems all the hiatus publicity drama worked and she should reach 3M before her concert.

>>14083919
Seethe. HoloEN was handed everything on a silver plate and are declining. They didn't have to work their way up there like holoJP. NijiEN has a chance of getting there.

>>14084061
Without context those numbers mean nothing. Just look at her early game streams. Most of them were sub 1k. She's never below 1k now:
https://playboard.co/en/video/2e5mZHHknTA
https://playboard.co/en/video/XsW5yLRKj5c
https://playboard.co/en/video/q6naFIzKDKE
https://playboard.co/en/video/cl6D6sKExoU

How come the slow and steady schizo isn’t posting Selen’s numbers?

>>14084383
yep, like fucking clockwork, nijiEN get slightly good numbers and suddenly it's all HOLOLIVE IS DYING, NIJIEN WILL BE THE NEXT LEADER.

>>14084383
>Without context those numbers mean nothing
The whole context is at >>14083902 pic.

Her last sub 1k was one week ago, six streams ago.

> 724 :: 【The Cat Lady FINALE】(๑ↀᆺↀ๑)【NIJISANJI EN | Enna Alouette】


And here is an interesting data about that quip about "Minecraft and Pokemion".

>Since November 1st Council had 5 Minecraft streams
>Nijsanji EN had 11 (pic related)
Really makes you think, doesn't it?

I wonder if that changes your mind about Council, Minecraft and NijisanjiEN. Just say
>I stand corrected
and it's all good.

>>14084478
here

>>14084512
and then they have the gall to complain when everyone shits on them

damn that's some serious recline

>>14084661
>nijisanji is inclining, they said

>>14084661
Bros... but she was at 6k a couple days ago.

suisei inclined from ~10k to 15-20k+ this year bros!!! xQc is gonna die soon!! BTFO!

>>14084525
She started playing Cat Lady before her incline, so the audience that she gained afterwards didn't bother watching it.

>>14084725
Lol

>>14084661
Selen more than halved her views from three days ago. Kneel. Hopefully NijiEN will keep being lazy and play everything under the sun but actual good games so they'll get canned when they reach NijiIN numbers

>>14084661
But… but her bday stream numbers where higher than regular streams.

>>14084661
OH NO NO NO NO NIJIBROS?

>>14084725
Please stop defending NijiEN. I'm doing a better job showing their actual data than you are by making up excuses.
That's how end up with bait thread in the catalog shitting on NijiEN, you ask dumb questions and people post the data and it makes Nijisanji looks bad

>>14084661
I used to rule the world...

>>14084830
You are seriously retarded if you think Enna would get sub 1k on something like: https://playboard.co/en/video/XsW5yLRKj5c
https://playboard.co/en/video/w9me4UuW9dg
today. That was when she started playing Cat Lady. A new audience isn't going to watch a part series of some heavy debuff game. They WOULD watch buff games like those though, just like they are watching RE7 and Detroit now.

Selen almost quartered her views from three days ago. Kneel. I really hope Ethyria/lazulight continue being lazy and complacent. It'll only bring them down towards NijiID levels sooner

>>14084970
WOW! That's some novel concept
>chuuba plays shitty game, audience is low
>chuuba plays entertaining game, audience is high
I for one wish Enna continues playing entertaining games. It remains to be seen.

>>14085069
Those two examples I presented were buff games and yet she was sub 1k in both.

>>14085056
Like most chuubas, she needs a gimmick/event stream to get high views.

>>14085056
kek

>>14085119
That doesn't bode well for your argument.
I surely hope you are not part of the psychic and fortune tellers guild trying to make a prediction of what could have happened in some alternative reality to imply she is inclining in THIS reality, that is most definitely not a good argument.

Just give her some 5 more streams of space to breath before saying she's free from sub 1k streams.

>>14084661
>>14085056
Oh no no no no nijikeks???

I just figured out why Noel got the numbers she got today:
>Choco had an overlapping ASMR stream for the same general slot
>She overslept and her audience (around 9-11k) ended up funneled into Noel ASMR while they wanted to see if she would show up
It is still illegal

Weak bait, guys.

>>14085223
>Just give her some 5 more streams of space to breath before saying she's free from sub 1k streams.
Sure. I don't see her going below 1k now unless it's a sc reading stream. She already has the best average/median out of Ethyria when that wasn't the case when she debuted. Anyone who denies her incline is mentally retarded.

>>14080093
Hololive is the one who broke a monopoly by... creating another monopoly.

>>14082640
Take your meds anon.

>>14085622
Yep that's how it usually works

>>14081921
Pro crypto is based though, the NFT shit on the other hand...

>>14083902
> This, btw, is something worth of applause. It truly seems that someone inside NijiEN management told the girls to cut the craps, to stop spamming low value streams and to start doing things that interest their audience.
This makes zero sense whatsoever, even more when you don't know anything behind the scenes. Other NijiEN also haven't followed what you said.
>>14084525
lol most of those minecraft streams are just two people.

>>14085121
That implies that she gets high views at all, has she ever had a single 10k stream besides her debut?

>>14084525
That's only because Council doesn't stream lol

>>14085622
>creating another monopoly.
kek, is that a capitulation in the name of Nijisanji?

As far as anyone knows, Nijisanji is not only **AT VERY LEAST** similar sized with Hololive in every metric (or so they claim) but they are also bigger than Hololive in Japan (or so they claim).
"Monopoly" doesn't mean "any big company I don't like".

Back in the old days you could only legally acquire a telephone set from the one (and only) Telephone Company, be it
>AT&T
>British Telecom
or equivalent in other countries. That's a monopoly

>>14085952
>Monopoly" doesn't mean "any big company I don't like".
Sadly this is exactly what it means for a good number of people. Dumbasses.

>BACK TO NUMBERS
Here is an interesting factoid: since the debut of HoloX to today (November 29 to December 4, JST)

Hololive (ID+EN+JP) had 199 streams from 47 streamers

Here is their distribution (in peak CCV)
>0-9999 :: 85
>10000-19999 :: 50
>20000-29999 :: 25
>30000-39999 :: 22
>40000+ :: 17

Here is the same data for Nijisanji 441 streams from 135 streamers (JP+EN+ID+KR):

>0-9999 :: 409
>10000-19999 :: 19
>20000-29999 :: 8
>30000-39999 :: 2
>40000+ :: 3

Pic unrelated

>>14086080
>40000+ :: 3
3D debut?

>>14086387

>November 29: Kuzuha Minecraft Battle Royale (40,385)

>November 30: Bora Graduation (43,778)


>December 3: Eli Conifer 3D debut (45,280)

>>14086080
Here is something else
In today's ranking alone Hololive had 26 streams over 10k
>In the period between (November 29 to December 4, JST, Nijisanji had 32

Reminder that Chloe is at 527k subs while Kronii is at 560k, a gap that will probably be closed in a single day. I can't wait for the excuses that the councilcucks will have to defend their oshi then.

>>14080508
Will anyone ever beat 2012?

>>14078705
HoloEN still dominating.

>>14086698
Also X total is currently at 1.95m, council is at 2.041 m, it will be both hilarious and poetic if both Kronii and council in general gets mogged tomorrow.

>>14086698
>S-she doesn't like streaming!
>Its ok, omega told them not to worry about numbers

Finana getting buffed by FFXIV!

>>14086698
>>14086890
S-s-s-s-slow and steady....

>>14078705
What were those FBK streams? Seems too high for Pokemon

>>14086932
Ouch, just checked. Ouch.

>>14086932
Numbers thread anon. At least post her numbers
>under 600
Well, at least Elira is streaming and must be doing better
>under 1k

SAVE US SELEN!

>>14087040
Shiny Magikarp hunting.

>>14087040
Fishing on Pokemon. Not even kidding. Not progressing on the story or anything, just fishing and bantering with Flare

>>14079542
Why are there so many Japanese awake at that time?

>>14086744
A spanish twitch streamer did the record with 2.3M viewers by hyping it up a new exclusive Fortnite content reveal which ended in him on the game as a skin.
If you add the many streams, the tech annoucements (Apple, Playstation, Microsoft, Nintendo even) makes more than 10M+ viewers on events.

>>14087057

>>14081674
>activ8
Isn't that company deader than Aloe's career?

>>14086851
I mean one of the council member still behind Choco sub account after months of joining holos..

>>14087365
That's Upd8. Activ8 spun off of it

>>14087422
Damn, you're right. She's still working with them.
> Following an announcement on 24 April 2020, Activ8 announced that Kizuna AI was moved from upd8 to a new subsidiary company dedicated exclusively to her, called Kizuna AI Inc.

>>14087416
To be fair, said chuuba is trying to crash herself up with not using her talent.

>>14085424
that's a fuckin advanced funnel

>>14087641
>To be fair, said chuuba is trying to crash herself up
Isn't that Council in general?

>>14087057
Elira is doing a pseudo-sc reading, but yeah, that Finana number is horrendous. If she's going to keep playing XIV on stream her numbers will plummet into oblivion.

Costumes confirmed not a relay. So that's at least 5 more days Hololive will take.

>>14087809
Bae tries. The rest, not so much.

>>14087909
Isn’t she on break right now?

>>14087882
In before no one watches Kiara.
Sorry kfps, I just had to.

>>14087183
If you count multiple streams for events then it would be Coachella with 82.9 million:
https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/youtube-2019-cocachella-record-views-1203193219/

Sure makes Niji's 100k+ events look like a joke by comparison.

>>14087809
Bae tries and Mumei has a legit reason to not be streaming as much. The others not. Fauna just need more reps but Sana and specially Kronii refuse to use their talent.

>>14087943
She is, but I was refering to trying to use her strengths. She has been trying, but taking a break doesn't help.

>>14087998
Sana has the same problem as Ina, in that Hololive is her 2nd job and it'd always be so.

>>14087998
what is Kronii's talent? Singing?

>>14087998
Kronii tried at the start and probably hated seeing how her chat became filled with coomers.

>>14087998
>Mumei has a legit reason to not be streaming as much
No she doesn't, Mori was streaming more than her even when she was working 3 jobs and still managed to make a new song every month.

bug?

>>14087882
im guessing
(JST) - (NA)
mori: 12/9 (thurs) - 12/8 (wed)
kiara 12/10 (fri) - 12/9 (thurs)
ina 12/11 (sat) - 12/10 (fri)
gura 12/12 (sun) - 12/11 (sat)
ame 12/13 (mon) - 12/12 (sun)
since she said costume reveal on 10th or something

>>14088037
Radio Voice

>>14088048
Anon, tell me how I know you never got a higher education.

>>14088027
Honestly it's a great gig to have. Stream yourself doing leisure activities and have fun/get some extra money while doing it, and then grind the actual job (with occasional member streams as a pretty tantalizing reason to join)

>>14088055
It's the regular cull but AKi can't grow her way back out of it, meaning her sub growth must have been on the low hundreds even before that

>>14088042
Her absolute pandering early on dug her own hole with that. We all knew that was going to be a mistake, especially with that model.

>>14088042
Easy fix though. Just show her head or something. It will tank her numbers but maybe she'll enjoy streaming more.

>>14087998
>Mumei has a legit

>>14088055
jops unsubbing.

>>14088062
Or maybe the order is what the pic showed during the anniversary, which is Ina-Kiara-Ame-Calli-Gura. And maybe they just did it for aesthetic purpose.

>NijiSisters don't have a conversational topic involving numbers and their company, resort to talk trash about fandoms of other companies
kek, like clockwork

>>14088159
The Anya route.

>>14088055
At this point I'm wondering what Aki is doing with her time, in november she had 11 streams. Her last 5 latest streams have been cooking/drinking streams, with a lot of break days between each...
Does she do a side gig?

>>14088095
Too bad you're wrong.

>>14088308
Correspondence course from the "magicians school of Magick" isn't real higher education anon

>>14088247
aesthetic purpose.

>>14088370
Here is the (you) you want so much.

>>14088307
well if by sidegig you mean being a parent then I think so

>>14087882
Any chance the date will be officially announced by Ame today?

Gura just put up a frame for her usual time, Big Brain Academy. Shark and Orca overlap confirmed.

Predicitons?
Ame haven't been doing that great lately with common streams.

>>14088531
I will watch the cute one

>>14088556
There is a chance for the announcement of outfit reveal. So 15~20k?

>>14088512
I forgot about that. Probably what it is.

>>14088634
Ame is doing a presentation stream today, similar to her previous tv/podcast project.

>>14088475
Well that would count I guess. But then again, not streaming at all for like 4-5 days due to that?
At least she isn't Ayame I guess.

>>14088556
It's going to be about why she can't eat bread, but she wants to, but shouldn't but does and the effects of it. Hours of dry powerpoint slides.

>>14088723
A portion of the holomem at that age group stream a similar amount, she's actually streaming more just now than most of the year too so it sucks if the effect is not a bug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOT7-5fI1mg
Just imagine if Omega did his job like his nip counterparts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFp7sP-z5eQ
>2.2k waiting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaf_jn5YLLs
>600 waiting
its over...

>>14088849
>A portion of the holomem at that age group
Interesting to note that many of the girls who stream the most are the hags while the zoomers like nazigumi and Chammers are either too lazy or busy with education to do their job

>>14089211

all the love to the hags, true hardworkers

4.1k are waiting for Ame's stream. Will she break the 15k barrier?

>>14089211
What about Rushia? She's younger than those yet she streams a lot.

>>14089211
peko streams more than marine

>>14089314
IIRC only Shion may be younger than Haachama. Rushia clearly has both the discipline and the stable family life to set a schedule and stick to it

>>14089211
I think it really does come from life having kicked you in the face a few times.
Having grinded at some shitty dead-end company for ten years and then to find some form of success stream, gives you a much different perspective to life and work, then if you explode online, before even finishing college.

>>14089314
Rushia is in her early 30s, absolutely no young.

>>14089211
Ah this is it, the solution of HoloEN recline, HoloEN need hags in every Gen they debuting!

>>14089726
This is interesting when Cover is doing the scouting/audition, we always have a mixed age group in JP, but in EN the age is between 23~28

>>14089462
I think you're probably right. Assuming Cover hires a bunch of go-getters for EN3 the same way they did for JP6. Council is going to wake up one night realizing that they fucked up by not going balls to the wall during the initial months. I'll excuse Bae since she is doing her best but she unfortuantely lacks the charisma that Kronii and Mumei have.

>>14089910
Australian timezone is a mistake too

>>14089910
I hope so.
I'll buy the theory that EN2 was just supposed to compliment EN1 if EN3 is full of go getters.

>>14089816
That's why JP2 is in shambles, the member actually prefer the subunits that have hags on it rather than their own genmates at a time like SENPAITACHI, ShubaChocoLuna, etc

>highly anticipated unarchived English karaoke of a new member vs unscheduled big brain academy
Who wins?

>>14089910
I think this is why Myth performs way ahead of Council, Myth is the first gen to explore in the EN market so they didn't waste their debut buff for a many months. Even Kiara, the "last" in Myth still performs well in EN branch.

>>14090088
karaoke, most people will rationalise that Gura's stream will be on for longer and can watch it afterward

>>14085952
I don't even know what argument you're trying to do here. Hololive has a ww monopoly, much like Nijisanji had from 2018-2020 and Kizuna Ai had in 2016-2018 until hololive got ovrseas boom.

>>14089910
>>14089966
Even if gen3 would be a bunch of go getters, why would council up their game for that?
Most of them treat the job as a side gig (true for sana) and if they got recruited to just be the second fiddle to myth that wont change. Getting told numbers aren't important might be the biggest mistake management/the talents did since they basically neutered the branch growth.

Someone qrd me on Oga saying something about Chloe.

Also, what does PON mean?

>>14090092
Forget myth, X is probably beating council in total subs tomorrow, like 9 days since their reveal. Hell Laplus already surpassed Sana in total views and is probably going to beat everyone else in Council before the year end.

>>14090149
>Hololive has a ww monopoly
Wut? I surely hope you don't mean "western world" because there are so many vtubers in the west players operating freely, both corporations and indies.

"Monopoly" is a word that has a fixed mean: only one player in the market, capable of dictacting terms because there is literally no alternatives.
It does not mean "a company that is big and successful but I wish it wasn't"

hah, is ame throwing shade on Ai with this?

>>14090230
This is the numbers thread, you are looking for the Q&A thread. Try global

>>14090190
Did managers actually say that numbers aren't important? I refuse to believe.

>>14090524
Only Sana mentioned this that she asked about management if she can do anything she wants.

>>14090524
I know the talents did, or have aluded to it. Managers problably went " don't burn yourself out" and since they don't seem to push them, what other conclusion can you make?

>>14090641
>I know the talents did,
When?

>>14090641
>Managers problably went " don't burn yourself out"
thats explain why they keep taking the break, dont bun yourself as in take it easy as you want, take break if you want as well

ame.......

Good numbers but this reminds me when I had to turn a paper with a set number of pages so I padded it with illustrations that had added no meaningful information, it only literally filled space.

Ame is following Haachama's footsteps into this sort of stunt but she didn't realize one thing: Haachama sheds her fanbase like a snake sheds its skin, she does it on purpose and this type of "creatividad" stream is in a great part to send whatever audience she had before off and get a new one, curious about this.

Maybe Amelia is trying to do the same and torch her older audience in a blaze of glory. I say she'll succeed beyond any expectations.

I used to be subbed to aki but now i check and it is gone.....

>>14088531
Why is Gura like this. Shes the new Ayame

>>14091143
kek, as expected from EN branch

>>14091250
So what did she do? I see the streams offline now?

oopsie

>>14091250
>>14091474
People claim "technical difficulties": I say it's on purpose

>>14091482
fuck you

>>14091516
the zuckerberg assassins...

>>14090736
Just because of that I can't find the clip. You're free to believe that I just made it up, but I know that I've saw it.

Laplus with the 7k on Twitter space.

https://youtu.be/umOghkJvrpQ
Overlap is coming!!!

>>14090736
Sana membership stream.

>>14092034
All she said there was something of the effect
>I was a afraid I would get in trouble for not getting the numbers expected from me, then I asked management and they said "don't fret about it"

This is what you get for even joking about introducing nfts

>>14090641
Her peers didn't help much either. During Council's convention they were asked about what advice Myth gave to them. It's not something numbers-related but it didn't exactly encourage a numberfag mentality
>Mori: Do what you wanna do, have fun while doing it. Have fun as yourself.
>Kiara: if it ever gets overwhelming, take time for yourself. You get a lot of good stuff from that, and no one wants to see you hurt.
>Ina: Be kind to yourself, and be sure to not overwhelm yourself.
>Gura: Do your best beam
>Ame: You're doing fine, hell yeah, keep up the good work.
So basically: have fun, you're doing fine and don't overwhelm yourself.

>>14092569
Seriously though, why not introduce NFTs? That shit has to have some use as a financial tool. Can't be less valuable than a <50$ superchat.

>>14092722
Thats not bad in itself but they should still have targets just so they have a quantifiable metric to judge their performance on. There is a middle ground between being forced to achieve certain numbers and just ignoring numbers entirely

>>14092758
its ponzi shit right?

>>14093001
nice blog, very jewish

>>14093048
Sounds like it.
Still worth more than a 5$ superchat.

>>14093050
Any successful person has performance targets they try to reach anonchama.

3 hours streaming and Finana didn't even get 1k on that FF stream, oof. If she stream more of it her average is dead

#NFAmeT is trending in the US

>>14083690
doesn't this make Sora the new oyabun?

>>14093343
sora not 2.99M yet

>>14093171
oh no now i am convinced. Make sure to buy your NFATs

>>14089123
Just going from the title, doesn't really look all that interesting of a game especially since Gura's a known idiot. The bigger question though is that by having them overlap be what'll prevent Chloe from breaking Gura's biggest karaoke numbers?

>>14089314
Rushia's reaching hag age anon.
>>14089362
I heard that Pekora is actually older than Marine.

>>14092020
holy shills

>>14093602
even without overlap, Chloe wont reach Gura 100k+
still Chloe hold Archived Karaoke record with 98k right? unless im missing someone

>>14092569
What are NFTS?

>>14094105
depends, technically most 3ds are still karaoke

>>14093726
>I heard that Pekora is actually older than Marine.
Just because you hear bullshit doesn't mean you need to believe it or repeat it.

>>14094105
Unarchived karaokes can get really huge anon. I believe Mumei and Kronii get +20k views when they do unarchived compared to archived.

tfw people would have respected nijien's "incline" more if he's not being such a piece of shit about it. you reap what you sow

>>14094151
Non Fungible Tokens. Imagine if I created unique trading cards for every possible asset in the world and sold them to you. So you could own the trading card for this post. Then someone else might say "Hey thats a cool post I want the trading card for that" and buy it off you. They have no intrinsic value and give you no rights over the asset they represent.

>>14094105
The most peak i think the orca next karaoke is gonna be around 40k...if it gone past that number, I will be very surprised

I thought that Rushia would get hit from Iroha streaming but it virtually seems like she got no hit whatsoever.

>oh, cover won't do shit for us?
>guess we'll make it ourselves
Ame just built a VR studio for EN 3D events. Apparently Mori will have a concert on it soon. Really curious what numbers she can pull despite the scuff of VR.

Bruh, Iroha is mogging Ame in the EN Primetime with a morning talk stream.

>>14095522
>FRESHLY DEBUTED HOLO GETS BIG NUMBERS
Oh wow, no shit?

>>14091250
They really are quite similar. Get mundane numbers on any normal stream they do but have the potential to absolutely break the numbers scale.

We saw Haachama do this during the schizo arc. For a short time period she was easily the #1 Holo in just about every metric. She was outpacing Gura in subscriber growth and she was getting more views than the freaking official channel. It was insane to see.

>>14095522
I can't stand the shaky camera please andastand

>>14095415
This is Rushia we're talking about here...her fans are the most loyal out of all holo...

>>14095522
Theres been a lot of cope by ENfags trying to cover up ENs big problems but they're getting too big to ignore now. Look at the views on Suiseis Phony compared to Moris Useewa. They're not only losing live viewers but people aren't even listening to their songs as much.

>>14095522
Ame was higher until her first "ending".

>>14095801
Mori's voice doesnt fit the song, tbqh. The only Holo who can sing that song perfectly is Towa

>>14095801
the song is in Jap, normies won't like that

>>14095667
explain council numbermaster

>>14095801
FOTM vs old song
You need to be Gura tier for VOD gathering to overcome the gap.

>>14095971
>>14096043
Cope ENfags.

>>14095801
>Suisei's Phony views
Cute, but I noticed how you didn't bring up the fact that Suisei's big new smash hit Stellar Stellar, complete with full 3D music video, is being outpaced by End of a Life in views. Just thought I'd remind you in case you forgot.

>>14096064
They got huge debut numbers too. Are you ogey? Do you not remember shitposting with Kronii's numbers and how she mogged Gura?

>pitting HoloJP against HoloEN again
>midget NijiEN shilling stops
like clockwork

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