/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Just realized its been a while since I updated the pastebin so I added a couple of helpful resources:
VocalRemover for when you want to make a karaoke track for a song that doesn't have one
Veadotube, was mentioned last thread but it's probably the most useful PNGtubing software out as far as I know
Fugi, if you are streaming with a second person and need an easy way to set up reactive images on discord.
Let me know if there's any other things I should add or change in the general pastebin!

Trying to come up with a username & I know I'm way overthinking it but just can't make my mind up
I know what name I want I just can't decide on how to spell it

>>13874627
with letters dumbass

>>13874627
Japanese sounding or english sounding?

>>13874627
Try this out my man
https://apps.nolanlawson.com/japanese-name-converter/

>>13876504
it's an italian sounding name
the name I want is Aliventi but it's already taken, I could just add an extra e or put a y in there but it just doesn't look right with it

>>13878054
Perhaps an extra L or a T might look more natural?

>>13878054
>Aliventi
That's a surname right? Giving yourself a first name would help. Then just have people refer to you as Aliventi

>>13876979
>>13878365
>>13878370
thanks that helps a lot

>>13879074
Fortissimo Aliventi has a good ring to it. That might be because I'm a musicfag tho

you guys told me a 3d model was cheap it's 1500! how much a 2dlive cost!?

>>13881055
A basic vroid is cheap or free, but the sky's the limit as far as models go depending on how detailed or how many extra details you get with it.

>>13881055
it's called live2d and it depends on the rigger and the artist you commission.

having a roommate that literally starts making his dinner right as you're about to go live even after fucking telling him your stream schedule makes me wanna kill myself

>>13883120
unmake that niggas dinner then

I'm waiting on the 2.0 of my Live2D to be worked on and it's really exciting. My original was kinda bad, so this is a major upgrade. I can't wait. Feels like a new beginning.

>>13886063
Good to hear lad

rigged my own model and it looks pretty bad but I finally found a rigger who will fix my mess in a few months, im excited about that

how is Kronii streaming to 12k viewers and just playing Pokemon in a half assed manner? how do i get to that point?

>>13889762
Fill a niche that no one even knew they wanted filled. ez

What are good BFE male chuubas you like? For reference, study material.

>>13890084
You should just check around yourself. I've learned the most from watching chuubas i fucking hate. Gives you an idea of what you DONT want to be like.

>>13889922
how can one get started researching these niches? how do you what you can fill if you don't know where to start looking?

>>13890741
that's the joke anon

>>13890084
What defines the B/GFE niche anyway? It always felt alien to me so I never tried to watch them.

>>13890989
Depends. if you want to attract a soft femboy community then be a faggot, if you want to crash and burn with no money, be a cishet

My Live2D rigging is finally complete. Now I just have to figure out what I want to do for a debut stream which seems more of a pain in the ass than the avatar creation process.

>>13891628
Do like a character sheet overview. likes/dislikes, favorite whatever, etc

>>13891628
>. Now I just have to figure out what I want to do for a debut stream which seems more of a pain in the ass than the avatar creation process.
Go watch anyone else's debut and copy that while adding your own personal flair.

>>13890760
how do you even carve out a niche for yourself when so many vtubers are debuting every day?

I saw a list here like a month ago, has there been any update to /asp/ chuubas that have been streaming and putting reps in?

>>13893815
there's been a few but i'm not sure what list you're talking about

I'll become an ESL male v-tuber that panders to a non-gay male audience, you're all invited to come watch me fail when it happens

>>13893719
>>13890760

>>13894042
Drop your links when you're ready to start streaming, anon!

>>13894042
drop links my nigga

>>13894042
Hey punk, you muscling in on my territory? Thinking we might need to settle the turf before things get out of hand, lets wrestle over who will be the straight male vtuber here

The gap to get into a corp is getting wider and wider, but I'll continue with my stream, video editing and social media reps and keep on applying. I want and will make it to Holo.captcha kyxxs but not yet anons, for me and you.
Stay strugglers, /asp/ies.

>>13896127
impossible unless you've got at least 300k subs on your youtube channel and started 5 years ago

>>13896183
Do also note that you’ll never get 300k subs and 5 years of experience if you spend all your time moping about how you don’t have 300k subs and 5 years of experience.

>>13896183
What’s the point of even going corpo if you got the 500k and 5 years of experience

>>13897874
Nta, but stability and support

>>13897874
NTA nor >>13899336 TA, but for me it would be the increased chance of fandom
I don't wanna be "rich and famous", but I read some /asp/chuuba post in the last thread about how someone had drawn them some fanart.
Like, that kinda "someone thinks of me beyond the moments I'm actually streaming" just would be... nice and fill the dead hole inside me

>>13893815
Who's the last one you remember? I don't think there's been anyone super noticable since the summer but there's been a couple of people who have popped up from here recently that have been shilling on wvt

>>13897739
>>13897874
The only thing you lose by applying is time unless its vshojo, then you get doxxed and swatted, so even if I don't have those 300k subs and 5 years of experience I will stay a struggler to get in or make it as an indie to keep on trying to get in.
Also
This >>13899336 and this >>13899418.

>>13904699
I’m gonna stay a struggler because what am I gonna do otherwise? Not stream?

>>13904853
never quit the hustle
fuck what other people say
i'm being only semi-ironic

>>13896183
I thought there were cases where some holos have 0 streaming experience or were 2views but managed to get in. I don't know what an application with 0 experience would look like though.

>>13905954
There's been people with 0 streaming experience, but they specifically instead are relatively-successful static content creators (music, dance, etc.)
Don't think I've yet seen forbidden knowledge of a corpo chuuba who had literally ZERO online presence prior, though. Granted, I've only got like 80% familiarity, so some might have slipped through the cracks, but I can't imagine anyone can pull off the mother of all one-shot auditions and come outta nowhere with absolutely zero body of work.

>>13906647
Aw shit, well there goes the myth of hidden talent and lucky breaks.

>>13906934
I mean I dunno if you're being ironic because you know something I don't (and I'm not trying to use my lack-of-knowledge to shit on anyone's hopes at all or anything)
I'm just remarking that having seen a decent chunk of shit before meidos cleaned it up, most everyone seems to have SOME sort of rabbithole you can follow, even if it was as minor as being a NND cover singer or something.
Is it possible? I mean, I guess, theoretically? But I'm just thinking about it from an objective standpoint: Imagine Cover or Niji are interviewing a new batch of auditione-es, and they have a TON of people who have anywhere from a couple hours to days' worth of content to show what they can do, what their talents are, if they're streamers how they build engagement, etc. To be able to YOLO with a blind audition, your charisma stat would have to be so fucking maxed that even if they don't hire you, you could easily be a quad-figure-plus indie.
I guess there IS an outside chance that they'll do a pity case, and maybe some of the current corpo talents are? Dunno. But it just feels as if taking a chance isn't something they're likely to do, is all.

>>13897874
gura and kronii

>>13907168
No, you’re right. I’ve seen stuff about JP and EN roommates, and they all had some kinda semi-successful creative endeavour going already. I guess I just thought I have seen a biased pick, but it is silly to hope that there are openings for literal nobodies.
The only people who were take a chance on I think were korone matsuri and nene

>>13910836
>nene
And she's explicitly said (in her current identity) how she auditioned like... 4 times I think she said? Looking back, basically since gen 1 I guess

>>13910936
Some of the early Niji and Holo Gens appear to have some w limited content creation beforehand. AFAIK that was kinda the point of Nijisanji SEEDs. I think both companies are past hiring non established talents though.

Moving past Holo and Niji, Tsunderia’s new gen apparently only one of them has streaming experience, they all seem to be competent in other fields though.

>>13911562
It is easier to teach a singer to stream than a streamer to sing.
Instead of focusing on numbers numbers numbers if you actually want to make it work on developing talents.

>>13911662
>It is easier to teach a singer to stream than a streamer to sing.
seriously this. as vtubers become more mainstream, we're going to see more streamers with prior existing talents other than gaming becoming bigger in the scene. actual talent, not just loading up apex and playing for 3 hours in gold lobbies.

>>13911745
Dogpiling with another (you) for this comment chain.
Being personable and having fun with a small audience is neat and all, but streamers are a dime a dozen nowadays, just look at twitch any given day.
And with the growing number of people commissioning cheapie avatars, rigging their own, or even just pngtubing, it's harder and harder to stand out just because you can "play a character". Yeah, bud, you and 500 other people.
Being able to create some sort of art - illustrations, music production or even singing, etc. - is far more of a buff than being a vidya gaemerrrrr

>>13912562
It's gonna be interesting seeing how femchuubas change over time. Right now, being female gives a buff over being male (for the same skill level).

But with the lower barriers to entry, more and more women are going to come in. So you'll have your pick. And, I'm gonna be honest, I out HalO on as background whenever she's live, because she's amazing at being a companion. She talks like she's in the room.

But the femchuubas who don't sound cute will either need to get a supercute model, upskill, or start being lewd to attract the same audience

>>13912864
>But the femchuubas who don't sound cute will either need to get a supercute model, upskill, or start being lewd to attract the same audience
if you're aiming for the incel weeb audience. granted it's the easiest one since all you need to do is be cute one way or another. but there are already hundreds of femchuubas who are stagnating in the 20s because they don't really have anything going for them other than >cute

most anons here don't see them because it's just an echochamber of corpos. even /wvt/ is an echochamber of thread favorites. but outside there are hundreds if not thousands barely breaking 20 views for months at a time.

>>13912562
If I had these talents on a good enough level to be hired, you’d think it would be a better choice to go be a studio musician or a graphic designer for money instead of getting SC scraps and subs from a corpo. I doubt we’ll have a mass exodus towards vtubing if just being a character is not more a buff than putting on some eyeshade.
Inb4 some fag comes in and says “but I’m an artist for the living, anon, and I still stream because I care about the c o m m u n i t y”.

>>13913022
>If I had these talents, [I'd be able to succeed on those merits alone] instead of getting SC scraps and subs from a corpo
That's the irony. Already said it in my
>words words words
post here >>13907168
>To be able to YOLO with a blind audition, your charisma stat would have to be so fucking maxed that even if they don't hire you, you could easily be a quad-figure-plus indie.
It's like a lose-lose scenario, if you dream of being a corpo
>If you're talented enough to be a corpo given the current talent pool, you're probably talented enough to be a standout indie who'd probably end up just rolling into some startup corp that needs seed talent and otherwise thrives just fine on your own
>If you're not talented enough to be a corpo, you will join the legions of 2viewbers languishing in the depths of [streaming platform]
It's kinda like the years around 2010 when we had a bunch of Youtube singers pop out and get signed by major labels. They were standout enough to rise above the masses, the medium had gotten JUST big enough that scouts actually had the time to see what was there without getting inundated with a million others, and after that the platform flooded with tons of people with legitimate talent but were now just 1 in a million rather than 1 in 100.
I can totally get the dream of being a corpo, because you see the camaradarie and tete and want a piece of it, and signing with a group will fast-track you to that level of networking; or maybe you're motivated by the ability to live a life of, maybe not luxury, but stability doing something as fun as streaming (and hey, if that's why, own it). But the window is closing, has been for years now, and it's gonna be harder and harder to be able to squeeze through that gap without being filtered.
>ted talk, not your blog, etc.
Godspeed to anyone trying... I've set myself up to expect/want nothing more than a couple viewers, and ANYTHING else would be a pleasant surprise.

>>13913714
>But the window is closing, has been for years now, and it's gonna be harder and harder to be able to squeeze through that gap without being filtered.
honestly that window had been closed for years now if it hadn't been for Covid and vtuber tech becoming very accessible in an incredibly rare coincidence. the novelty of vtubers just happened to arrive at the right moment. but audiences are very quickly realizing that it's still ultimately just streaming and the novelty has long worn off.

>>13913821
>>13913714
Well it’s a good thing I’m too stubborn to be quitting right now, or I’d get real depressed

>>13914612
Good luck anon!

>>13913022
>just being a character is not more a buff than putting on some eyeshade

Just having an anime character is almost always going to be a buff because, if you're starting from zero with a new identity and have these skills (which includes networking and content creation skills you had to get to that point), you're practically guaranteed a base audience due to people always actively seeking out new vtubers, but never seeking out new streamers. If you're skilled (or consider yourself skilled) but you can't break out of 2view territory then you probably aren't as skilled as you thought.

>>13919875
>you're practically guaranteed a base audience due to people always actively seeking out new vtubers, but never seeking out new streamers.
this doesn't happen. you can go to twitch right now and see the hundreds of 0-2view vtubers.

>>13919965
>m*les

>>13920024
>made up bullshit

>>13919965
>If you're skilled (or consider yourself skilled) but you can't break out of 2view territory then you probably aren't as skilled as you thought.

That was with the caveat that you already are skilled. If you're that small you probably are not skilled, you're just a newbie who fired up VTubestudio one day.


>>13920024
There's tons of female 0views

Best jp artist for a male model?
They're hard to find.

>>13924590
You just don't know where to look because you're an EOP.

>>13924590
https://twitter.com/SuteinuA - This artist designed Frosts model and it looks really good

https://twitter.com/hauluciel - And this one did Kenji's, they aren't jp but they speak english fine.

>>13924590
Personally I think western artists give a lot better results for males, with JPs you're more likely to just get a pretty anime boy that without a doubt will not match your voice, personality, or content. Unless you want to find someone who does more stylized stuff like Gyari then I'd just go for a western artist

>>13926591
>hauluciel
They're good but Kenji's design was either a fluke or already pre-designed by him (he's an artist), because all her other designs look like carbon copies of one another.

>>13926618
western artists also have a tendency to never deliver and have menhera attacks

>>13926724
Doesn't happen as often as you think and the only reason you don't know it happens to JP artists is because you aren't Japanese

>>13926724
JP artists have a tendency to cancel your commission for absolutely no stated reason or explanation beyond "due to various circumstances" after you've already been on their waitlist for X months.

>>13926724
JP artists are the most menhera on the planet and occasionally nuke their entire accounts because some gajin looked/used their content as a cropped pfp or imported some low poly model into vrchat

>>13926591
Suteinua goes through Iron Vertex, so good luck.

>>13927716
>JP artists are the most menhera on the planet and occasionally nuke their entire accounts because some gajin looked/used their content as a cropped pfp or imported some low poly model into vrchat

Aaaa I knew it doing your art reps destroys your mental stability I am going to lose to the menhera eventually I can already feel my mind slipping I have been a mentally stable man all my life why did I took on this hobby

>>13906647
Finana was a vtweeter with 0 experience in anything and she managed to get in. Granted, 1st gens are always a bit lax with requirements but she's a notable case.
>>13914612
Ditto.

>>13931618
finana was a finalist for HoloEN1. she wasn't a nobody vtweeter that just took a random shot in the dark.

>>13931694
what did she do to end up as a finalist for HoloEN1?

>>13931898
>cute voice
>personality
>strong audition
>strong interview

>>13931618
She wasn't just a vetweeter with no experience, she clearly showed that she was able to grow a community without ever having streamed. She wasn't just picked for her voice or personality. She's sort of an exception, but she was also extremely skilled and show this. There's a good chance that no one here at all has the skills she has even as her previous identity.

>>13931694
The thing more notable than her vtweeter to Nijisanji road is fact she made it far in the HoloEN1 audition that picked five established people when she had zero experience.

i hate seeing anons bring up Finana all the time and just claiming she was a vtweeter who got into nijisanji. it creates unrealistic ideas in /asp/ies who go to delude themselves into thinking they'll be that one break out talent with zero experience. bitching about audition tapes until the night of rushing to put some shit video together then going schizo over a single view on their uploads.

i'm glad that auditions season is over. thread was almost unusable with every other post asking
>i got 2 views what does that mean?
means fuck all until you get the invitation to an interview email, that's what.

>>13933133
Right, a better ideal would be someone like Pomu who had 0 experience prior to her indie vtuber days. And Finana had experience as a pre debut vtuber who did collabs and got over a thousand twitter followers.

>>13933986
>Pomu who had 0 experience prior to her indie vtuber days
she was a fairly successful uitate and created a number of cover songs even before she was Maid Mint.

>>13934207
Oh, she was one too? Wasn't aware. I guess it's still skills you can practice instead of hoping to be a miracle.

TL;DR like >>13933133 said, you need some kind of entertaining skill. Maybe you can have no VTubing experience, but with no experience at all, what kind of redeeming qualities do you even have to them?

>>13933986
>got over a thousand twitter followers
okay i don't think that's the benchmark you should be using for experience because some people literally post a design to twitter and get that instantly

"Zero Experience" means zero experience streaming. It isn't hard to learn how to stream. They've all had prior skills that were unrelated to streaming. I'd argue "streaming skills" take a back seat to quite literally every other possible skill you could have.

>>13935109
>I'd argue "streaming skills" take a back seat to quite literally every other possible skill you could have.
Hazard Hornet proved that wrong very quickly. He's a pretty solid Live2D rigger and a mediocre artist. But his streams were absolute garbage because the guy had no stage presence. You need both to succeed.

>>13935281
There are three pillars to streaming in general
>Charisma
>Talent
>Sex appeal
If you don't dominate one and are half decent at another it's highly likely you're ngmi

>>13935666
I am pure sex, with a dash of charisma and zero talents. I will make it

>>13890741
YouTube heard you and is making this official tool early 2022. More details: https://youtu.be/jbkC3jaflww
No excuses anymore

>>13935666
Charisma is quite literally the only one you need.

>>13935820
don't think you can get access to that unless you're already in their creator's insider program.

If you're going to try and "fill a niche" that you don't care about you'll fail. This will only help people already succeeding. "Fill a niche" is such trash advice because odds are if you're making content for a niche its' because it's a niche that you're already a part of.

>>13936127
So were youtube shorts, which was pajeet only for some months, and community tab only for channels with 10k+. Sooner or later, everybody gets it.
Advice for everyone in this thread: please make proper thumbnails that dont look like garbage and dont write your tags in the description, as its a excuse for youtube to ban you. If youre going to play Minecraft, then write about it on your title, thumb, desc and tags, a paragraph or 2. How do you want to be discovered if you arent giving youtube the data it needs to recommend you?

I had zero streaming experience prior to vtubing but i also work well under pressure so it all worked out. I found out a lot about myself that I didn't even know and i'm doing really well

>>13937419
congrats anon. sometimes shit just clicks.

>>13936039
I define making it as hitting partner, you can go pretty far with only charisma, but i've never seen anyone who only had charisma going for them hitting partner, they always had at least something else going for them, like being decent at vidya or being able to somewhat draw (i.e. having a talent)

guys i have a desing i want a live2d how much money you guys think it cost something avarage, something like $400?

>>13938876
With design you mean the drawing is already done? Because 400 is in the ballpark of what amateur rigging costs

>>13938876
that really depends on what >average means

>>13938947
yhea i draw my desing of what i want o need to conver it to live2d
>>13938950
hmm i'm just searching for someone who help me out creating the model i will rig it myself

>>13939010
that doesn't answer the question

>>13939085
i see

>>13938876
Average full body will be 800
Something more amateurish will be 600
Half body probably 400
Rigging is roughly the same as above for quality, upwards to 2k if you ask for ridiculous stuff

>>13939580
thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIAGGY6Aegc
don't let your mama and papa down /asp/ies. they worked hard to bring you to life. they put a lot of faith and trust into you. don't give up. you're all going to make it.

>>13943050
I unironically want a mama like Bloom's

>>13943050
Parsley chuuba never gonna have a soul. Sadge.
>>13933986
>Fina did collabs as a pre-debut
How do you even do that.

>>13943803
>How do you even do that.
she was friends with Pomu and Elira along with several other Niji EN girls

>>13943860
That I know, what I'm wondering is how do you collab without even debuting.

>>13870666
>OpSec Guide
> Create a fresh Steam account and use the Steam Family Share feature to access games that are already installed on your computer (that you own on your Main). There will be no way to connect your new Steam account to your old account as Steam does not reveal Family Share status (unless you're screencapping the actual Steam window itself, which... why would you ever do that?)
This is bad advice. I've been looking at mods to play Dark Souls 3 with, and i've came upon this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls3/mods/723
It claims
>It will flag alternate (family shared) accounts of people you have blocked
and it indeed does. In the log you can see people

Another tool i found to find famiily share account is for Garry's Mod
https://github.com/C0nw0nk/Garrys-Mod-Family-Sharing

As you can see, family sharing CAN connect you to your private account, at least when you are connected to someone. Someone who knows this stuff should check out steam api or some shit to know if it can be done to anyone.

>>13944118
>This is bad advice.
...when trying to play with this specific mod of DS3 installed
just buy a new copy of DS3 on your chuuba account if you care about opsec then?

>>13944118
useful info

>>13944249
It can extend to any online shared game. I didn't link an implementation of this for Garry's Mod for nothing. Or even it can even be a general thing you can do with steam.
But i don't know if it is, and i don't know how to check, i am not a programmer.

>>13944082
>without even debuting.
you don't have to debut to be a chuuba.
she did. do your archive reps and you can find her past chuuba identity.

>>13944496
>only works if you join someone's garry's mod server

>>13944254
doxxgura are you lost

>>13944755
Point is, it's a vulnerability (You) should be aware of, and included in the guide, as
>Steam does not reveal Family Share status
Is not true

And what part of
>It can extend to any online shared game.
did you not understand?

>>13945065
cool, >we can update the pastebin for this technicality based off some github thing using a steam api call that only works if you directly connect to some rando's personal server.

>any online shared game
it really can't. only those whose servers and the scripts running on it are operated by some third party who has this specific thing installed. you're not going to get your lender account discovered by playing Borderlands multiplayer.

>>13944755
What I mean with debuting is her making any sort of online content. As far as I'm aware she didn't have any streaming experience so I can't understand how did she collab without actually streaming or anything. Did she just jump into other vtubers' streams?

>>13945343
1,6k followers on twitch with 16k views

>>13945197
>it really can't. only those whose servers and the scripts running on it are operated by some third party who has this specific thing installed. you're not going to get your lender account discovered by playing Borderlands multiplayer.
What stopping someone with enough scripting knowledge and want of doxx to create a custom script for any online game? Nothing.

>>13945428
>What stopping someone with enough scripting knowledge and want of doxx to create a custom script for any online game?
What's stopping you from shutting the fuck up with these retarded extreme hypothetical scenarios and just buy the game you want to play on your chuuba account if you're so fucking paranoid?

family share is fine. every singleplayer game is safe from this and the majority of online games that connect to an official server that's not hosted on a random's private computer will also be safe.

>>13945600
>retarded extreme hypothetical scenarios
Yeah, fuck OPSec, that shit is for retards

>>13945708
buy a new copy of the game for your chuuba account if you're that paranoid. there's your opsec.

>>13945728
Update the guide to reflect that information

>>13945773
make the updates yourself i don't own the pastebin

>>13945343
Networking can be done before you debut. It's not hard to make friends unless you're a social reject or something.

>>13945813
>>13945773
the guide was made by some anon a while ago; i'll update the pastebin to reflect that information when i make a new OP

>>13946255
>made by some anon a while ago
>May 18th, 2021
it's been 6 months already? wonder of pastebin anon ever debuted and how they're doing right now in terms of numbers. bet they're making it.

>>13947429
don't know who it was that made that pastebin but i'm the one who compiled the general pastebin

>>13926591
>Both closed for commissions
I should have mentioned someone with open or soon to open commissions

what should my average viewers per stream be like before i would be seriously considered a pick for nijisanji auditions?

>>13948333
On youtube 100-200 live with over 5k per vod.
On twitch 3-5 hundred live.

wew lads spent all evening doing slides for my debut stream and finally finished

>>13937419
Same. I feel like at the very least I’ve grown personally through doing this.

>>13949011
i tough dokibird has low view count

>>13950302
It's not just about viewership and numbers. What skills do you have? Going live and playing games and chatting isn't a skill.

>>13950302
where are you getting the numbers to make that claim?

>>13950693
Basically everyone's past stats are available, chuuba or otherwise. Dokibird's viewership wasn't exactly the highest, but she had a host of other skills and experience which proved herself as a creator in more than just "yeah ive got views."

Odds are if all you have are views and no other skills you wouldn't get picked anyway.

>>13950810
what was doki's average view count?

>>13950839
I don't remember what it was, but back when Gen1 of Niji debuted I remember looking at hers and Nova and remember Doki's numbers being sub-100 CCV.

>>13950899
You know this actually ends up back round being kinda comforting. Like, people actually did prove they were worth something and it wasn’t just luck.

>>13950899
>sub-100 CCV.
sub 100 can be from 0 to twitch partner numbers, that's not really a useful stat

>>13950944
I mean to a degree it's "luck", I'm sure there were other equally skilled people just by the sheer volume of people picked. Again, viewership is not all that matters. Skills matter. She was a singer, artist, and animator her years of streaming prior to VTubing even being a thing.

People shouldn't get their hopes up that some org will see how they're a "diamond in the rough" and pick them. You're worthless to an org if you can't sing, voice act, or have some other skill that you've proven to be successful in. They proved they were "worth something" by the years of hard work they put in padding their resume and honing their skills.

>>13951018
what about the fesh?

>>13951045
>>13933133

>>13951045
what about her?

>>13951120
i like her

>>13951045
What about her? Clearly she had skills other than viewership or she wouldn't have made it that far in the HoloEN auditions either. Seriously, what do you or anyone for that matter hope to gain from bringing up how someone's viewership was? It's not on delusional, but disrespectful to other skills they likely had. Again, you're absolutely worthless without skills and with all due respect most people here do not have anything exceptional to offer or they wouldn't be desperately grabbing at "b-b-b--but fina was a vtweeter!" as if she clearly didn't have something else going for her.

is tweeting a bunch of reply bait to get followers and bloat your numbers with a bunch of pre-debuts that'll never stream and scuffed vroid tubers that never stream the way?

>>13951255
Well, if they never debut, they are just viewers

>>13943097
You mean the menhera femgosling obsessed with him?

>>13951255
Why are you so invested in the personal lives of your potential viewers, lmao. Shitting on your followers like that is how exactly not to network. Does it matter if they're pre-debuts when they come watch your stream, interact, and retweet your shit for free?

>>13951311
Nta but yes can I have a femgosling that will post about how much she wants to smooch me please.

>>13951358
It's bait, probably to keep the threat from dying. Just ignore retarded questions.

>>13951255
>is tweeting a bunch of
no. no it's not. twitter is just a social media website you can use as a tool. how you use that tool makes or breaks it as it relates to your growth as a chuuba.

>>13951153
Ffffffffuuuuckk youuuu I will get there even though I suck and I will be an inspiration for all the other anons who don’t have much going for them.

>>13951767
You won't be. If you have no talent, no skills, and no experience no one will want you in any org, or even as an indie.

How do you guys go about researching which twitter tags have a lot of activity surrounding them?

>>13952080
Bitch post your contact I’ll send you a mail in a year just to prove you wrong.

Cyberlive Gen 2 got revealed and their models and rigging looks top tier. Rumors of someone here getting into it as well. People are missing out by not applying to them, they're one of the rising stars IMO

>>13952474
Sadly not hiring males though

>>13952264
Stop trying to sell the idea that a company will hire anyone that has no experience, no talent, and no skills.

>>13890084
Mine is an utaite with Live2d that sometimes stream. His mother language is not English, so... I'll just describe him. He has several gap moe.
He naturally has gentle soft voice almost ASMR-ish but he likes to trash talk lol, imagine the dissonance but it's hilarious when he's doing it. He didn't swear that much other than occasional "fuck" and "these monkeys" to his friends. He's good at games and usually acts collected and cool, but there were times when he got mindbreaks because of his friends slowness. While his friends were busy he acts like a clown and giving his fans a secondhand embarrassment. The only fanservice he's okay with is "voice act" like he reads some dialogues somewhere from the internet. He's okay with his horny chat, he reads it, but never return our horniness back. When the chat horniness went overboard he bonked us and said "very stupid" while giggling cutely. He acts super straight, but he's also act sus sometimes as a "joke" like when he played Hand Simulator (a game) he jerked himself along with heavy breathings and giggles. I know that deep inside he's a slut.

So, here are his gap moes:
Gentle - edgy humor
Cool guy (his friendliness with chat is professional/not needy) - clown
Seiso - closeted slut

im going to be the greatest vtuber of all time

>>13954292
i believe in u anon, u can do it

>>13954198
Nono dude, i will develop experience, talent, and skill, and get in.

>>13954206
I forgot to mention he jerked his friend's invinsible sausage too in that game, that's why I thought maybe he's not straight.

I know this is kinda out there, but anyone have an idea of how much models from famous (100k+ twitter followers) JP artists, like Retsubol's (bebe_fate) or Beri's (plan039) cost? I'm planning to commission an artist, in their template for general commissions they ask for a quote of the price you'll pay upfront. Don't want to lowball and get rejected.

where do i find japanese character designers, how do I approach them

some of them won't accept chuuba designs if its requested by an indie (even if you got the money)

>>13951311
She makes cute art

/asp/ies are cute! Cute!

>>13870666
>when the ESL tuber hates her own voice
why do this to yourself

>>13958343
Thank you anonchama

>>13951311
It's ironic, right?

>>13960820
Well she already did two fanart of them fucking

>>13960903
giwtwm

got a semantics questions for you lads
>male streamer
>avatar is a cute girl with some sort of mascot character
>voice the mascot character, girl is technically "mute" or something to that effect
would this be considered a babiniku? cause technically you wouldn't be the girl, but it would draw in viewers much the same way a babiniku would

>>13960000
checked

>>13961174
I threw kind of the same idea here and the general consensus I got is that it still is. "So you're baiting viewers that you have a girl model? they'll click, hear the voice then leave"

>>13961174
babiniku with extra steps

>>13961247
Oh shit I didn’t even notice. Wholesome get

>>13959043
Sounds cute. Who?

>>13961174
It IS better than being a babi.

>>13961329
must be a good omen

>>13952171
make actually good content and be entertaining and your own viewers will go out of their way to shill you for free, its that simple

>>13960903
two? thought there was only one

>>13961174
Better than being a Babiniku but nobody has really dont it well either because it involves a lot of roleplay and the girl being expressive.

>>13963200
Bahroo did it extremely well.

>>13964080
he was already a twitch partner.

>>13964229
So? The design is still good and worth learning from.

>>13964418
the "design" is >cute girl holds a mascot. if you're talking about the artist and their style, that's different. i don't get what he did >extremely well other than commissioning an artist. unless you were trying to imply his model is what made him succeed as a streamer.

>>13960983
post ur @ coward

fuuuck i thought of a really good name but the username is already taken on twitch. is it really bad if my twitter handle is slightly different from my twitch? should i just try and think of something else?

>>13967009
>Not shamelessly debuting as xxxcumguzzlerxxx
NGMI

>>13967009
Substitute some letter for a number and you're golden

>>13967009
Everything has already been done before, just change it up a bit and you're good to go.

>>13967009
Add VT To the end of it

>>13967217
>EOP
>Titling your channel "[Name] Ch."
Cringe or "just following the convention"?
Genuinely curious

Talent/Networking gets people to give you a chance, charisma gets them to stay and build your audience.

>>13965978
He switched to vtubing after he was popular, I don't know where you're getting that last bit from. I'm just praising the design because it's a good concept and is immediately appealing, doesn't matter if he commissioned him or not and I don't see why you even think that would matter.

>>13967371
commissioned it*

>>13967371
nta but everytime anons bring up bahroo, it's always looking retrospectively. it's easy to look at someone successful right now and say something is good. there are many examples of guys trying to fake a babiniku by doing the >cute girl holds a thing approach. even several /asp/ies in the past have asked about it.
https://twitter.com/AtomAndEvelyn

the concept isn't good. it's a cheap and pathetic bait and switch. even if it was a good concept, it just goes to show that the design doesn't matter if your content and personality are already good.

>>13967572
I can tell you're the same anon because you misuse greentexting the same way lol. NTA my butt.

>>13967615
ogey

>>13961174
It depends
Personally it would appear that you're a lot more insecure than even a babi would be
if you do your voice reps you might as well just be a babi instead

>>13966702
Brats first.

>>13967669
Anon, you do know you can un(You) in 4chanx, which you're clearly using, right?

>>13968569
>He's still scared of getting fucked in the ass by Creambo

>>13968841
>tfw no Naga to bully and get bullied by

>>13969364
Sadge ',:3c

Is wanting to get groomed a good reason to become a chuuba? (/m/ale)

>>13969565
Are you really the one being groomed if you're allowing your fem*le viewers to form a parasocial relationship with you?

>>13969565
Yes
>spoilers
Good luck...

what kinda emotes should i commission for my channel friends

>>13970405
Based on what I see used the most.
Something to show hype.
Something to show sadness.
Something to show love.
Something to show confusion.
And an inside joke of some sort.

>>13967296
it's following convention but I would avoid it if the name you want isn't taken
I was just mentioning it since the anon said their name was already in use

>>13969723
Is it really parasocial if you interact outside streams?
>>13969972
Thanks anon

>>13954476
See you in a few years then. Everyone who's part of a major org has been creating content in one form or another somewhat professionally for a number of years, as early as their teens I'd wager.

>>13972573
Nah, I’ll do it faster, it ain’t that difficult. Plus children are dumb, so I can learn faster than they did.

>>13972939
you're not the first and won't be the last shitposter in /asp/ and it's been almost a year. none of you have ever made it in that time despite talking big like this. drop your links when you make partner and shit on us then.

I’m not trying to shit on you or anyone, but if I just accept your mindset that realistically it is impossible to get anywhere serious without the background of several years, I may well just give up now. Nothing great ever gets done by being rational from my experience, so I I’m still gonna bet on my 1% chance.

>>13973999
Trips of truth, good luck anon

You're going to let me groom you, right?

>>13972015
>Is it really parasocial if you interact outside streams?
entertainment inherently creates a parasocial relationship. it's impossible for your viewers to really get to know you. even if you interact outside of streams your viewers will still see you as that entertainment personality.

>>13973999
For indie success I don't really agree, plenty of chuubas out there with little to no streaming experience that have inclined heavily in the last 2 years, and not even just artists, singers, etc. For an org you need way more, sure but if you're hoping to get into an org without those skills you're looking at way lower than 1%

How do I convince my SEA asp friend that it's not a big debuff and she should just start

I already told her to stay off /vt/ or just stick to /asp/

>>13978469
it will cost her nothing but a weekend to try streaming with a png

>>13978469
>Her
She's already winning 75% of the battle

>>13974683
Damnit

>>13978469
She has an accent or something?

>>13978469
am woman but not SEA and started streaming on twitch with a vroid, not a png. i think i got more random viewers with a vroid than i would have with a png. and i had random viewers even on my first stream while streaming under the vtuber tag on twitch. being sea isn't a debuff male or woman if you know how to pander to your audience, there's that one sea male that has hella subs on youtube cause he panders to levi fans. tell her to try making a vroid with booth assets and making something she likes enough to try streaming with. booth has really nice assets for free/cheap and i think it's really underrated here for beginners (that often recommend pngs, which is fine, but i think vroid+webcam for facetracking gives a more similar experience to streaming with l2d)

How hard is it to kitbash 3d models? What program is used for that?
I have a lore and design in mind I like but it has a prosthetic leg and might also have robotic hands.

>>13982399
I -think- you can import vroid models into Maya. (I use Maya) but blender is a free 3D program. So you could probably edit the mesh on Maya itself? I'm not sure, might test it out. (Source: I was a 3D student for 5 years)

>>13982399
easy as fuck to the point where children do it themselves
pretty much everyone playing vrchat does it for example, so you should have plenty of accessible tutorials
just use blender. proprietary 3d software wont be as accessible or have as many beginner tutorials

>>13982836
>>13983094
Thanks, anons.
t. boomer

>>13982399
Change the extension of your .vrm file you get from Vroid to .glb, then use the glb importer on your 3D software of choice, like >>13983094, i highly recommend Blender

>>13983152
I looked it up anon. The Vroid file exports as a VRM. Now when you import this into a 3d software of your choice, you can't export is as vrm (I think thats only for vroid software itself) BUT you can export is as FBX then go onto Unity and export it as VRM from there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUMB6bkhdv8
https://styly.cc/tips/blender-vrm-export2/

I'm using this as reference. Rigging should not be a problem as the file was originally VRM (came with its own rigging.)
Im gonna go try it out myself, u can dm me @glimmycat if u need help, but last time i touched 3d was 2 years ago.

>>13983508
>@glimmycat
That's twitter, right?
Is it fine if I only DM you a while from now? My only account is a "burner" I use to browse twitter so don't be scared when an account with zero posts DMs you.

>>13966702
I'd bite the bait but i don't wanna get called a sex pest this early in my career

are twitter ad campaigns actually worth a shit?

>>13988861
i've heard people instinctively ignore and filter out any posts that have the "Sponsored" tag that appears under all ad campaign posts

going by what I've discovered comparing how people grind twitter the male debuff is real

>>13989913
>going by what I've discovered
mind sharing? i don't know how to twitter at all other than posting my schedule and link to twitch when i go live

>vtweeter with almost 4K followers on twitter
knowing how to network is a skill in itself

>>13988861
no. don't waste your money.

>>13990280
>beginner vtuber I really enjoy watching puts in a significant amount of hours into streaming
>but seemingly has no interest in the networking side of things and will likely forever stay a 2view until she burns out/moves on

It really is an undervalued skill.

I don't even know where to start with networking? Do you just go around getting in good terms with people in the community and posting funny posts until people start to like you?

>>13989959
>>13991290
you could spend all day looking into resources and guides out there for social media networking/advertising - it's shit people go to college to get degrees in this age

and afterwards it's just a matter of throwing shit at the wall until you learn what sticks for you

>>13991112
I'm exactly the same way. I'm genuinely too autistic and shy to understand the networking game at all.
If the concept of showing off obscure games to people wasn't entertaining to me on its own I would've given up months ago.

with the talk of twitter, is it really bad to have too many tweets to follower ratio? i know anons talk about jusagi having over 40k tweets but barely 9k followers and even much less viewers.

>>13994432
The only thing I recall is people advising you treat twitter as a social media tool rather than a blog. You want to post tweets that people can engage with (reply, retweet, like, repost) rather than making good morning and good night tweets and tweeting bullshit.

You can do whatever you want when you have a huge following though since at that point your fans engage with any and all bullshit you post.

>>13991290
This may be entirely off the mark, but it feels like it should be self-evident how networking as an indie would work, just based on thinking about what you yourself would like in interactions with other people doing the same kinds of things you are.

If another Vtuber with a channel around your size showed up in your chat and watched along for a few streams while actually engaging with what you're doing, would you be bothered by that? If they sent their viewers your way some day after they wrapped up their own stream, would you be upset by it? If they ever reached out and said "Hey, I really enjoy your content! Would you ever want to try playing together on stream some day?" would you feel offput by that? I feel like most people would welcome those kinds of interactions just like you yourself would likely welcome them.

I dunno, maybe because I'm not in this sphere myself and am only a watcher I just don't have a grasp of how this works out in reality, but I feel like the easiest way to network would simply be to build up the people around you that you like and for them to help build you up in the process. As long as you're consistently looking for those kinds of opportunities to help other indies, you'd have the opportunity to reach new folks who wouldn't know of you otherwise and vice versa.

>>13994432
jusagi isnt interested in stream viewers they literally only care about twitter clout, you can tell because they make those pointless networking threads every week and their discord is just a front to advertise their own stuff instead of helping out newbies

>>13995566
From what I've read ITT, that can become a vicious cycle where 2views watch other 2views who watch other 2views and never actually get any regular viewers that are not other vtubers.

>>13958343
Go to sleep, Choromatsu.
>>13959043
>>13961476
nta or likely that chuuba, but I'm an ESL that hates her voice and how it doesn't fit her loli model.
>>13961174
Bahroo used to have a model like that but I checked and he stopped using it.
>>13973999
Pain trips confirm it. I got pretty good gacha luck so I'll do the same and keep betting on that 1% while growing as an indie until it works.
>>13994627
Making good morning, good night and tweeting bullshit can get you interactions by itself.All tweets have the potential to be engaging if you know how to make them interesting.
>>13995566
Wise triple dubs.

>>13998186
>I'm an ESL that hates her voice and how it doesn't fit her loli model.
vocaroo

>>13998142
Yeah, if you don't continue to expand beyond your initial circle I can definitely see how you could end up in a niche of just you and some fellow Vtuber friends. A big part of networking, at least in the corporate world, is subsequently connecting with friends of friends and branching out until eventually you happen to know the right person at the right time, and it feels authentic or genuine for you to reach out to them when that time comes around.

>>13994432
About a decade ago there was all this talk on twitter about tweet to follower ratio, follower to follow ratio, interaction amounts etc etc, I think at this point though the prime factor for gaining traction is to just be retweeted by larger people.

I'll give an example, I really like "Incorrect quote" accounts, the polite ones will attribute you or straight up retweet you if you have a good one - I see huge returns if I get a funny reply on those versus my mutuals giving me 4 retweets off a funny standalone tweet - I believe its because my mutuals followers already know who I am, or know that my best tweets will end up on their feed either way vs. the thousands of new eyes I have on my profile from a meme account retweeting me.

>>13998511
Cracking the code will be figuring out what the vtuber equivalent of an inter-department meeting is lol

bump

>>13998142
This absolutely does happen.
>>14000256
>prime factor for gaining traction is to just be retweeted by larger people
Absolutely true. Tags are okay, but there aren't really that many people hounding tags. If I get even one follow out of a tweet I consider it a win because anything is better than nothing when you're starting from zero.

>>13998460
https://voca.ro/1m0FvbfT0D0H

>>14003281
mic quality is a wee bit scuffed but
https://voca.ro/14wRlTpzajv9

>>14003411
Your* mic quality is
Mine is ass too but figured I'd clarify that I was saying that as feedback

>>14003411
I nearly spat out my coffee fuck you Patrick

>>14003281
Can't provide an either/or and then not include a sample of the "normal" voice.

Personally I'm more a fan of natural voice than character voice for EN chuubas when I hear one vs. the other, plus it ends up being less straining for the chuuba themselves, but I guess it entirely depends on what normal sounds like in the first place.

>>14003469
https://voca.ro/17zEKt0MFLDP

>>14003281
I'd like to hear the normal voice as well

Twitch recommends that you stream for atleast two hours in order to let people trickle in, but I typically end my streams either at or just below that. The problem is that my main content usually leaves me physically drained after an hour or so. Even on the rare occasions I go over the two hour mark I still don't necessarily see an increase in viewers. Should I increase the stream time by taking a ten minute break and returning to play a standard game to pad out the content?

>>14003411
>>14003601
Fuck this is too good, Patrcik. You better be charging for those voice packs.
>>14003436
I actually have a HyperX Quadcast so not sure what can be scuffing sound quality.
>>14003561
>>14003617
Oops, my bad.
https://voca.ro/1i7achYDQW6s

>>14004093
>HyperX Quadcast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Condenser mic
need to do more acoustic treatment on your room if you're gonna rock a condenser my guy
also your voice has the same vibe as Saruei for me so it could work imo
try to have more pitch variation, i know it probably feels cringy AF but recognize that you're planning/hoping to do this for hours at a time day in and day out, better get used to it

>>14003998
3-4 is honestly the sweet spot, after about an hour is when most people peak in viewership and you're not even hitting that mark. "Stream longer" is really the only answer

>>14003998
Maybe do a conventional game for an hour, then do whatever's physically demanding for two hours, then another hour of conventional gaming?

>>14004296
How does that work though? What’s so special that happens after the 3 hour mark? It’s not like the stream becomes more attractive to people who browse the longer it stays.

>>14004266
>also your voice has the same vibe as Saruei for me
Why the fuck would you think telling someone they sound like a vslut is a compliment? Also I'm not hearing it.

>>14004296
>>14004401
I can do that then. Do you know what entertaining free games I can stream since money is rather tight? It wouldn't be detrimental if I kept switching between the games categories would it? And people wouldn't feel cheated if I started the physical content two hours into the stream?
>>14004700
This is also a lingering fear that I have, that there isn't really a guarantee that people will show up just because I stream longer. Not saying that I won't try, however, just a caution that I have.

>>14004266
I know I have to acoustically pimp my room, dubsman; I'm on that.
As for voice, not familiar with Saruei but it's a compliment I'll take.
On pitch variation, I do admit I'm a tad monotone and that's my usual way of talking; I show more emotion on my voice when raging at shit or being snarky, but of course that's something that can be changed. I don't mind practicing pitch and I recognize I'll have to do this for hours, it's not cringy at all or at least I'm immune to it.
Guess all this means it's better I stick to my actual voice and do the I-sound-like-a-true-ojousama joke thing.

>>14004851
>oh no da ebil indie tuber how dare you
god forbid i tell someone they remind me of a person who regularly pulls in thousands of live viewers per stream and tens of thousands of VOD views, oh the humanity

Has anyone ITT ever tried the Samson Go Mic? I've been seeing it getting shilled around and I'm a bit of a cheapskate so I'm always drawn to cheap shit that looks promising enough.

Also, would it be peak paranoia to change your playstyle/main role on a moba so people don't recognize you?

>>14005043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_scyvt5YgW4

>>14005147
That's actually pretty good. Gonna follow her stuff. Thanks for the comparison and unexpected reccomendation, anon.

>>14005147
Speaking of, how did she attach the spud controller to her model there?

>>13969565
stop asking this every thread you've gotten your answer several times now

https://voca.ro/1rnGPTDB7kgl

>>14005492
I don't think it's the spud controller, just a Vtubestudio item. the fingers don't move at all

>>14004996

>>14004996
>>14005914
https://store.steampowered.com/genre/Free%20to%20Play/
i mean do you have a particular genre in mind or...

>>14005949
I appreciate the list, thanks! Honestly I have absolutely no idea what to play. I am not a gamer in the conventional sense of the word which is why I went really heavy into my niche. All I know is that I'm not fond of hero-based shooters, I stink at MOBA games, and platformers are pretty boring. The only thing that I'm slightly interested in is that Rivals of Aether game but I play on wireless and my connection is sure to be trash playing any fighting game.

>>14006240
https://sullygnome.com/
>input game you might be interested in streaming (whether it's one you already have and enjoy or one that's F2P and/or one you can afford and want to buy anyway)
>See if other people are streaming it and what kinds of numbers they get
Not as a numberwhore move, but to see whether there's an audience for that particular game in general and if it gets peoples' attention. Everyone goes on and on about "muh filling a niche", but in reality any fucking game with 0views is probably 0views for a reason, and no one is looking for any of that. Instead, do a bit of research into whether a game draws in followers, not just viewers.
For example, using the game you gave as an example, sorting by "followers gained playing this game" in the past 7 days, as you can see the person at #11 (#10 not counting the official dev channel? i guess) nearly doubled their follower count just playing this game. Granted, we're talking about an audience of only 8 followers, but still, for a 0view that's massive.
Will they abandon this person as soon as they stop playing the game? Or did they specifically follow because of the streamer themselves? Can't answer that, obviously. But just as an idea of what to look for beyond using "average viewers" as a benchmark.

>>14006545
Yeah, I looked up the stats of some F2P games that interest me on Sullygnome. I think a game like Brawlhalla might be a better pick for me. That's one of the issues I have though since I don't know if they'll stay past the two hours of regular gaming and just abandon me when I do something else. I guess that's the point with making sure you have a magnetic and entertaining personality, but it's hard to gauge that when you're a 2view that rarely passes two hours on stream.

>>14006545
Dude, that’s a genius way to further filter niches!
I would also add, check the followers gained against whether the streamer is already in the top 10000ish to see if it was a big streamer memeing or something.
So far in general, my formula for picking a game would be viewer/streamer ratio >80 plus your channel being in the first 2-3 rows in the category by viewers plus the follower gain from this anon.

>>14007346
(cont.)
This could also apply well to YouTube if you did keyword research for a score of around 75, previewed the SEO somehow to be in the first 3-4 results and checke the view to sub ratio on similar vids to check if the topic is a one time trend or not.

>>14005100
Samson Go Mic is fine, it is a condenser tho so it'll pick up more room noise. If you want to go full cheapskate you could even check out those bm800 mics

>Also, would it be peak paranoia to change your playstyle/main role on a moba so people don't recognize you?
yeah

>>14005100
Samson Go Mic is fine, It is a condenser tho so it'll pick up more room noise. If you want to go full cheapskate you could even check out those bm800 mics
>Also, would it be peak paranoia to change your playstyle/main role on a moba so people don't recognize you?
yeah

>>14004700
Many factors
Other streams might end and people may come to yours in its place

>>14005100
>Also, would it be peak paranoia to change your playstyle/main role on a moba so people don't recognize you?
unless you're literally like top 1% of players and already have a competitive presence, yes, this is overly paranoid
How many randos a day do you get paired up with in [insert vidya here]? How often do you go "oh shit buttfsniffer69xx man i know that guy and how he plays" on a daily basis?

>>13951255
Ask Jusagi and how well thats working for them lol

>>14011699
that's the joke anonchama

On the topic of Jusagi are there actual successful babis in the indie scene atm or are they all doomed like him

>>14011847
Artemis though they got a massive incidental stack of buffs from
>Debuting at the same time as someone with a similar theme gura
>Paying out the ass to get a top end model and rig

>>14012026
I always found this a really weird case
They had social media presence and that was alone to carry them when they started streaming
This didnt pan out the same way for other people (vtweeters)

Is it just simply the effort of people watching because youre "big"? The model is decent but the rig is outdated now

>>14012136
I honestly couldn't say, myself. I too found it kinda weird how hyped they got and how much success they had.
Regardless of their roommate's... Qualities, I always found them fucking flat and boring. And not in a dry humor kinda way, just... Fucking boring. Like their only schtick was doing a mediocre impression of... You know.

>>14012240
Right place at the right time i suppose. It couldve been anyone!

If you're a 0view do you just hop on your stream and play for X hours but still deliver commentary the whole time as if you've got a full audience? Is it okay to be quiet if you literally have no one in chat?
I don't think I can do this if I have to pretend someone's there no matter what. Like I can see myself doing 2view streams, chatting with the people watching me, muh personableness, but what if no one ever shows up?

>>14012504
Turn off viewer count and do your thing
At the very least you get your improv reps in
Corpo auditions ask for stuff like this too

>>14012504
Whenever I hop on I make sure to keep chatting about random things, my current state of being (usually pain), or try to constantly keep tabs on chat. I tend not to stay quiet if no one's in chat because it becomes a bad habit and you won't exercise your improve skills or have any potential material for clips later. I always have streams where no one shows up and I'm just talking go bots, but as demotivating as it is you just have to keep talking until someone enters the chat.

>>14012504
>but what if no one ever shows up?
this is only really a problem for maybe the first month or two, then you never have to worry about it again.

>>14013285
>>14012802
>>14012580
O-okay I'll try bros
>>14005542
Am IGMI?

>>14012504
You absolutely have to be entertaining pretty much the whole time. imagine you join a stream, and they're playing through Skyrim's tutorial. There's no engagement with chat, no explanation as to why they pick their race, build, choices of Empire/Stormcloaks... They're just playing a game you've played through tens of times yourself.

All they're doing is taking away the choice of what to do from you.

You need to be giving value to your viewers. If you're not god-tier as a player, then that has to come from you being entertaining.

What strats do you guys use to bait visitors into conversations? I've had some people come into the stream, say hi, then leave (I'm always puzzled why they start a convo then don't bother continuing kek). How do I bait them into continuing past the first "hey, how you doin?"

>>14015321
>I'm always puzzled why they start a convo then don't bother continuing

This is a failure on your end. You have 15 secs to say something interesting. Be interesting.

Same with a raid: you have 10 secs to make people stay. It is the moment you have to be the most spectacular in your entire stream.

Little_S for example excels at this. This is why he is in the cancelled bingo chart.

>>13954555
at least $1000 for a full body

>>14010792
There's actually this guy that mains Bloodseeker support that always dumpsters me on my main account.
It'd be unironically good if I get another of those on my chubba account. "Will anon finally defeat buttfsniffer69xx? Find out next time." Could get a sort of wrassling-type storyline going.