/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Can we save her?

You forgot about Matsuri and Kiara anon.

>>13963811
Yes
>>13963865
No

>>13963873
Idk why people say Polka is menhera when I watch her it seems like a bit she does

>>13963811
No, she's just pretending so retards like you will think "WOW! SHE'S JUST LIKE ME!".

>>13963811
>>13963873
They should get together

>>13963811
thats not festival

>>13963811
Not even TOP5

I honestly don't even pay attention to council, so spoonfeed me. What has she done that's more menhera than taking a month off over a dead dog? That's the only menhera episode of council I'm aware of.

>>13964128
holy kek

>>13964128
>What has she done that's more menhera than taking a month off over a dead dog?
that's sana

>>13964128
Wanted to transition

>anyone more mentally ill than Matsuri, Polka, and Haachama
And I'm not talking about the last one's forced lore schizophrenia

>>13963811
She never got over being told she has a dry personality and its been downhill ever since

>>13964190
nice reading comp

>>13964369
oh yea, i totally realized it after posting that. forgive me for my retardedness

>guys Matsuri is so crazy lol look at all the times shes cried
shes just doing it for attention, shes not real crazy

>>13963898
This. It's a neck and neck tie between them to see who is the most menhera

>>13963811
>Is Kronii the most mentally ill holo?
>t. doesn't watch Hololive
Kronii is merely depressed. That's fucking nothing compared to the likes of Matsuri and Aqua.

>>13963898
Kiara's doing great mentally. Do your reps.

>>13964412
Wanting attention like that IS crazy

>>13964474
kiara....

>>13964412
Healthy people don't cry for attention Anon.

>polka
why is she a menhera?

>>13963898
Kiara is menhera, but in a more social retardation/narcissism sort of way. Not the type of menhera that elicits sympathy.

>>13964565
Self esteem issues from being fat

>>13964565
shes fat

>>13964565
She was so fat that no man wanted to fuck her, so she became a lesbian. Now she's so fat that no woman wants to fuck her.

>>13964565
Her self-esteem is fucking garbage.

>>13963811
No, she's just lazy.

>>13964277
But Chammers is doing fine tho?

>>13963811
in EN maybe

>>13964565
She is too way dependent to her members

someone called?

she is the typical social media retard of 2021, ex tumblerina, using pronouns, calling herself nonbinary etc etc, all signs of collective retardation more than mental illness

>>13964800
Rushia fakes it too hard.

Aren't amphetamines everywhere in japan? why doest porka just do that

>>13964914
That sounds like a horrible idea

>>13964590
>>13964593
>>13964594

>>13964700
Chammers is actually fairly mentally robust considering what she went through in Australia, but as usual anons lovw talking shit and hate watching streams.

>>13963898
>Kiara
Is completely fine these days. Hell, even at her worst it's more just sympathy-seeking behaviour than actual real mental health issues.
>Matsuri
Matsuri is much closer to being an actual menhera, but a lot of it is attention-seeking behaviour. Funnily enough, one of the main reasons we know Haachama isn't a menhera is that she was smart enough to handle Matsuri's temper tantrum behind the scenes instead of make any reference to it in public, something many chuubas could learn from.

>>13963811
I don't wch her often so I've no idea how menhera she is, but I can't help but feel /vt/ - as usual - is over-exaggerating.

>>13963873
Correct answer.

>>13964832
I wouldn't call legit mental breakdowns with crying every few months and suicidal membership posts "faking it"

Wow, KFP is really on damage control mode today. Kiara is prime example of bi-polar narcissist.

>>13964988
>polka fans get more streams
>she loses wright
sounds like a win-win

>>13965185
Nobody's buying it anymore. Go to bed, egg.

>>13965185
There's a reason she's the number 1 most superchatted channel

>>13965246
>>13965091
Whoops

>>13963811
Matsuri...

>>13965086
I still see everyone say Polka. As an uniformed EOP, what is it that she does often that elicits that mentality and thought about her? She's chubby in Japan, but that's about all I know.
Also spoonfeed me the deets on Matsuri crybaby. I know she had people going wild on her about the stranger at the door thing, but what soured her and Haachama's relationship?

>>13964446
I was talking more about old Kiara.

>>13965086
>one of the main reasons we know Haachama isn't a menhera is that she was smart enough to handle Matsuri's temper tantrum behind the scenes
Ghosting people frequently is what the mentally unstable do. Matsuri and Chammers do it all the time.

>>13965052
She seems to make jokes about it during the Shiraken streams, so I think she’s handling it well enough.
https://youtu.be/30w8JfnHSCc

>>13964832
Everyone makes this mistake that because Rushia's able to fake it as a joke, she's not mentaly ill. She is more mentally ill than she jokes/fakes about being. The only ones with real mental illness are Rushia, Matsuri's (though this is speculation as she's undiagnosed unless I missed her also having a clinical diagnosis in my roommate reps), and Kronii (lower than Rushia & Matsuri).

>>13964811
is this true?

>>13965086
Matsuri unironically seems to make every member uncomfortable, i genuinely feel bad for the male streamers that collab with her.

>>13965315
> Chubby
Are you a burger? She's a fucking hamplanet.

>>13965315
Do your reps. All of them.

>>13963811
not even close

>>13965372
Haachama ghosted Matuli, seems pretty fucking sane to me.

I hate this bitch, but she's not the most menhera of the holos

>>13965315
polka had some crazy long member posts about how she actually feels in love with her audience and that without them she couldn't handle it

>>13965086
>a lot of it is attention-seeking behaviour
Yeah, the toxic kind.
>airing dirty laundry on secondary accounts
>passive aggressive tweets
>deliberately ego searching for negative things

>>13965372
>Matsuri and Chammers do it all the time.
Can we save them?

>>13965463
So she's basically saying if she was a 2view she'd quit? That seems less menhera and more numberfaggy

Protip, Anons, if you get ghosted a lot and it makes you bitter, maybe the reason is (you).

>>13965463
Maybe there's something wrong with me but I don't consider that a mental illness, that seems normal

>>13965439
Haachama ghosts everyone for stupid reasons.
>ignores Watame for months because she didn't make her a birthday video
>instead of clearing up the understanding, she kept dodging her
>Watame genuinely felt hurt and confused
>Watame had to call during the birthday stream

>>13965391
pretty much, she's into the "down the patriarchy" kind of shit, she probably hate men and hate to stream for mostly all men

>>13965476
Chammers is just a shitty coworker. Matsuri is a shitty coworker and a shitty friend.

Yes

>>13965541
And how do we know this?

>>13965541
Don't forget when she ghosted streaming because cover told her to rein in her retard lore

>>13965086
festival seems more shamelessly degenerate than true menhera, although arguably theres overlap

>>13965600
Who the fuck scouts these niggers? Sack them immediately

Kronii roomate looks like a sack of potatos and her fanbase is full of coomers. It must fuck with your self steem. Her vtubing success is a reminder of what she will never achieve as a person.

>>13965315
Someone post the copypastas. The long one and the updated one.

>>13965391
>>13965600

>>13965600
who is this?

>>13965502
>>13965537
it was romantic love specifically

>>13965588
>its been confirmed holos have creative freedom in their designs
>noo bro she put a massive tiddy window on her model because she wants to her angry when people look at her chest

>>13965598
Because people kept asking about Haato during Watame's Minecraft streams and all she could say was that she didn't know what happened but she hopes they could play again someday. And then there's the birthday stream where she came clean and nearly cried.

>>13965691
I'll repeat myself, maybe there's something wrong with me, but I don't consider that a mental illness, that seems normal

>>13965315
>soured her and Haachama's relationship?
>Matsuri asks haachama if she could participate in her 3d celebration. Haachama says yes.
>Rushia asks Haachama if she could participate in HER 3d celebration. Haachama says yes.
>However, Haachama was about to go on another menhera hiatus (due to college). She lets everybody know well in advance behind the scenes.
>Being responsible, Rushia scheduled the recording for Rushias live concert early so that haachama could make it
>Matsuri, not being responsible, does not, and expects haachama to show up during her hiatus.
>Naturally, haachama can't, and cancels on matsuri.

>Fast forward to when the live shows actually occur. (you didn't really think it was live did you? Its all prerecorded lmao)
>Matsuris live has a cardboard cutout of haachama, likely a staff member filling in.
>Rushia has the real haachama.
>Matsuri watched rushias and concluded that it totally wasn't her fault and that haachama should have come to her live and that life is unfair.
>Has a menhera attack on all her twitters including her official one (she deleted the official ones complaints)
>Everybody wrongfully calls her a cunt.
>She makes up with haachama and all is back to normal on the surface.
The worst part is that people keep insist that Haachama did nothing wrong and she was innocent despite her leading Matsuri on.

>>13965699
>its been confirmed holos have creative freedom in their designs
This doesn't apply to every single Holo just like how not every girl required an audition

>>13965598
because they literally fucking talked about it
you fags really don't watch streams

>>13965748
Seems dumb and worthless, but I know women in general really love to hold grudges about petty shit, so no real surprise there.

>>13965748
What the fuck? Why was Haachama such a bitch?

>>13965708
Watame confirmed Matuli level menhera.

>>13963977
It's mostly her membership streams, she has crippling self esteem issues. Sometimes it seeps into her tweets and regular streams.

>>13965852
t. Menherachaama

>>13965757
Kiara talked about how they (EN) were essentially handed their models at the time of completion and only really started to get a say with accessories and future designs. If you want the source, it was her first year debut rewatch.

>>13963811
>Is Kronii the most mentally ill holo?

No. From HoloEN? Possibly.

>>13965881
That doesn't even make any sense sheepfucker.

>>13964412
There is a story about her trying to stab her mother

>>13965691
So shes menhera because she baits GFE?

>>13965315
>Be Matsuri
>Fall in love with a girl that likes dick
>Constantly rejected by her
>Cry on twitcasts and make such a huge drama to a point some people start hating your love interest because your menhera attacks
>Talk to a bartender
>Send a lot of marshmallows and superchats to him
>Get drunk and tell him you want him to be your big brother and take baths with you
>Get ignored and rejected by him
>Get completely outclassed by a tomboy with a sexy onee-san voice
>Meet a qt 3.14 pro apex player
>Actually get him to coach you
>The tournament is your chance to impress him and win him over
>End up tilting and your team ends 19/20 only because the other team was memeing with controllers
>Cry and suffer the whole time
>Met another qt in the after games, a spaghetti spilling weatherman
>You actually try to be seiso instead of the degenerate everyone is used to
>Have the time of your life
>He never calls you back
>Find a princess that loves you back
>She calls you when you were depressed after the apex shitshow
>She values and depends on you a lot
>When she gets sick instead of helping her you go back to confess your love to the dick loving girl
>Fall into an endless APEX obsession
>Your viewers tell you to bring some variety and that they are tired of APEX
>Instead of improving you take a break playing more APEX
>Return from break and keep on doing APEX streams
>Fans actually start leaving you
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Despite all of this you keep on streaming APEX, and it seems everything is going fine
>Then a Shark appears
>The Shark puts a trident in your ass and starts buttfucking you
>You start bleeding viewers
>You end up loving it and ask for Gen 5, Korone and Pekora to buttfuck you the next day
>Do a collab with a gook
>Despite being hyped up and having your fox senpai to help you, you still can't make over 5k
>That collab also brings a curse to this land
>get buttfucked in the next days by a detective with brain damage and an autistic reaper
>Boys and girls from all branches are having fun and teetee
>you're alone, playing APEX
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
>All of the girls except EN are playing Minecraft together
>EN girls are having collabs together and interacting with each other and her senpais
>All of the boys are playing among us together
>All of them are having fun
>You're alone, lamenting your existence on twitter and crying yourself to sleep
>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>It's your chance to make a harem with all past love interests
>Dedicate a stream to practice it, alone.
>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
>Your dreams of a harem are dead
>Later because of this and much more, you start having menhera attacks and suicide bait on your alternate twitter account
>The menhera attacks are getting stronger, you end up trying to assault a squid in front of her fans
>FRUS TRA TION IS GETTING BIGGER
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
>You want the mom
>BANG BANG BANG PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER
>The CEO is trying to befriend you but you, as a good menhera, take this as a personal attack and ignore her
>Mommy turns you down politely
>You keep on screaming and attention whoring until you leave without saying goodbye
>Your fanbase is also full of menheras that pretend to be happy but use alternate accounts to have the menhera attacks
>You look for those accounts and reply to them, making some of them delete their accounts
>As the menhera attacks get worse, your roommate makes a stream
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who crearly cries herself to sleep
>In a bold claim, you go and say that if the fans don't like APEX they can go eat shit.
>Shortly after go into a break
>Your stalker, that for some reason you thought it was a good idea to make a mod in your channel, thinks that's because of your fanbase
>Your fanbase start to attack each other
>You have to come out and admit that a friend died so they stop fighting between each other
>Meanwhile the princess is having her birthday
>You prepared a cover that you promised months ago
>You retweet it SEVEN times
>You send an aka supacha
>She doesn't mention it
>Not a single holo acknowledges the video
>Have a menhera attack on your roommate account
>Your fans start pestering the princess because of your own stupidity
>Have to make an apology and explanation on your roommate account
>The princess finally acknowledges you
>But to this day she didn't like your video

>>13965947
Only because she tried to separate her from her brother.

>>13965880
Cute. I will say that you do have to play your audience.
>>13965600
This is a perfect example. No matter how much some of us want our Oshi's to truly love us, this is still a job and you have to be willing to sucker in the guys to get your money's worth.

>>13965757
This. Some of them get a say in the design and some of them don't. In the case of EN, it seems like they don't.

>>13965372
This is the cope you use when girls don't give a shit about you?

>>13965880
i feel for her, i lived in japan for 2 years, i'm not fat just not skinny and in japan being bigger equals being fat, and being fat is de facto unhealthy , and since in japan, health matters rely on your willpower, many japanese believe a fat person can only blame their habits (too much food, lack of exercise and so on) solving your weight problem should have an easy answer and therefore, some of them feel they are entitled to tell you so, and they can be quite cruel, specially on women

>>13965639
Her roommate looks pretty decent and has a good body desu

>>13966127
that crimson chin though

>>13966037
I don't form parasocial relationships with vTubers.

>>13966000
>deleted
Someone can tell me what was that post?

>>13966154
kronii dox on pronouns

Polka and Rushia are menhera but aren't the bad kind of menhera.
Matuli and Kronii on the other hand...

>>13965748
I keep forgetting how much of a bitch Haachama really is.

>>13966090
>many japanese believe a fat person can only blame their habits (too much food, lack of exercise and so on) solving your weight problem should have an easy answer
This is true save for people born with health issues (a minority)

Nobody ever talks about it but Botan seems like a lowkey menhera, or at least some sort of aspergers. Theres no way a japanese hag is that good at fps while also having a love for firearms and military aesthetic

>>13966154
something something about how kronii preferes anonymity and thus is totally okay with they or whatever pronouns

>>13966186
>but aren't the bad kind of menhera
>being self-destructive isn't bad

>>13966197
In countries like Japan maybe. American food is fucked to the point that it's just a genetic lottery of your metabolism, I say this as someone skinny & underweight. Some people with my same diet or better than my diet are fucked up & way overweight, purely because of american foods being designed to fuck you up.

>>13966211
thats just dead-eggs hag cope, not menhera

>>13966220
>try to be ambiguios about your gender so its harder to doxx you
>retards take it as proof shes a tranny

>>13966211
There is absolutely nothing mentally ill about that.

>>13966254
Everyone loves batman but hates the joker even though they both belong in the looney bin

>>13965921
No. Mori is absolutely the most menhera out of EN. She's a huge fucking autist.

do these girls really go full menhera using their hololive accounts? they can do that? are their managers retarded?

>>13966211
>Botan seems like a lowkey menhera, or at least some sort of aspergers
Because she isn't complete shit at shooters? She's just a hag.

>>13965975
Updated
>For years, tell all your fans you're a lonely virgin who was bullied in school for being fat in order to maximize simp bucks.
>Sexually harass your coworkers, but they don't mind that much because you're a self professed virgin loser who's just lonely and in need of physical contact and so are seen as mostly harmless.
>Some guy on twitter keeps telling people he made it with you so you freak out on your roommate account and tell everyone you haven't had a boyfriend in over 4 years, exposing your lie about being a virgin.
>Cry on stream while being princess carried to masters by predators in APEX.
>Spend hundreds of thousands of yen (several $1000) on akasupas for some random dude's youtube channel.
>Ask Coco for her Line contact info, only for her to respond, "Ew, gross".
>The drama with Haachama is some of the worst interpersonal drama in Hololive history only because you made it public in the most unprofessional way possible.
>Constantly flirt with male collab partners in front of your viewers, regularly telling them you'll send them nudes if they want them.
>Literally in the middle of saying "I haven't had a boyfriend for over four yea-" THE HAND appears. You make up the most obvious lie possible, but are still willing to needlessly worry your most loyal and gullible fans.
>Despite all of this, you're never once punished by Hololive management and instead are featured in more and more promotions, which probably only means one thing.
>People realize that guy on twitter from earlier in the year was probably telling the truth and was actually some guy she had a one night stand with.

Also, we'll never know for sure, but at this point is there any doubt that she's the reason why Kaoru had to leave?

>>13966332
Yes & Yes

>>13966211
and surely you're not retarded for discussing the mental health of animated girls voiced by grown women on an image board with other retardes

>>13966291
heh, it certainly is funny to see it being peddled by
threadwatchers everytime she comes up

>>13966332
Matsuri does a lot of stupid stuff on her main like painfully unsubtle rants about coworkers and even arguing with antis

>>13966339
>>Ask Coco for her Line contact info, only for her to respond, "Ew, gross".
Based

>>13965748
>Matsuri watched rushias and concluded
Matsuri is /ourgirl/, she doesn't know things for sure but she's chosen her true already

>>13966502
Is there a clip of this?

>>13965748
>>13965975
>>13966339
Bros…how do we save Matsuri from herself?

>>13966548
https://youtu.be/37WNsAm7x50

>>13966561
She needs to get pregnant so she can pass on the demon in her head to her child

>>13965541
>Haachama
>17 y.o. girl
Feels bad and guilty because she couldn't congratulate her friend.
>Watame
>oldhag
Acting like an irresponsible adult, seeing that her younger friend feels guilty and can't talk directly.

I wonder who has a psychological illness

>>13966900
>and can't talk directly.
>tries to contact her multiple times and gets no answer
But of course, you know this, right? You're not some clip-watching EOP, right?

>>13966328
Kronii is too, except she's actually depressed on top of that.

Watame cries about everything. She is one of the fakest bitches in Hololive. But somehow sheepfuckers buy her bullshit that she is gentle and genuine and would never lie.

>>13967105
Watame having mental issues doesn't negate Haachama having mental issues. At least try to hide your bias, Haaton.

>>13966561
We take out her little brother's girlfriend. Matsuri was shit talking her for some reason. Maybe they don't like each other.

>>13966090
>, i'm not fat just not skinny
You are fat

>>13966970
I've never watched Watame and never will. Moreover, I have no reason to believe what she said about "tries to contact her multiple times and gets no answer".
If Haachama didn't want to talk to her, she would have ignored her on her birthday, too.

>>13967236
>I've never watched Watame
Next time please educate yourself before picking any side.

>>13967193
Ghosting people is not mental ilness. Neither is being fake bitch. So both Haachama and Watame don't really fit in the premise of this thread anyway.

>>13966328
Mori is not an autist, she is just a little antisocial like your average user of 4chan. By saying that you are stating that we are all menhera

>>13967273
Anon this website is filled with schizos; of course 4chins is menhera.

>uhhh I don't watch X but
>wow is that true? proofs
>there's no way X happened
>someone spoonfeed me about X
I really shouldn't be surprised by this thread, but mannnnn

>>13964567
Kiara is not truly menhera, she is quite average related to mental health. If she was truly menhera we would have had some kind of drama between her and other chuuba, and after a year is probably the one who have made more friends between the holomyth girls. She is just melodramatic and impulsive, but nothing serious has happened with Kiara yet

>>13967428
>the one who have made more friends between the holomyth girls
>If she was truly menhera we would have had some kind of drama between her and other chuuba
>he doesn't know

>>13963873
porka?

>>13967273
4chan is a site for menheras, why would anyone normal come here?

>>13967273
>Mori
>not an autist
Mori isn't menhara but she's so autistic she's like a space alien wearing human skin. And I love her for it. But let's not deny the truth here.

>>13967273
>Mori is not an autist
No normal person fucking talks like she does. I'm not talking about forcing a voice, I'm talking about her bizarre inflection. She has always sounded like that.

>>13967211
>Matsuri was shit talking her for some reason.
Qrd on the brother’s girlfriend? They got in a fight or something.

>>13967389
>itt: we pretend to know about girls we don't watch
Kinda applies to the entire board, don't you think?

>>13967560
Matsuri is a brocon and doesn't want anyone to steal her brother's heart, literally thats all

>the amount of newfags in this thread

jesas

>all these women are crazy
Grass is green sky is blue

>>13967901
There's a difference between regular crazy women and actually insane women

>>13965315
Matsuri is a menhera dyke, who would have gotten cancelled anywhere else in the world for being so fucking touchy. If she ever tries the shit she pulls here in the US, some girl is gonna punch her in the face and then Matsuri will get arrested for sexual harassment.

>>13968037
'Muricah!!! Are you sure she's not gonna get shot? You burgers love your guns.

>>13967644
Okay, but there has to be more than that, since she despises her for some reason.

>>13966291
Yeah knowing their gender would narrow it down to about 3.5 billion people. Too risky.

>>13968079
Your dyke is gonna end up doing JAVs by this time next year faggot. You will never be American, cope and get shitted on you dumb retard. Rent free, dilate, bitch, fuck you. USA #1.

>>13964594
She got bigger?

>>13966220
Kronii wants to be identified as non binary, that much is well known. She is already a dyke and buys into the non binary shit on top of that. Of course she is depressed.

>>13968159
>dilate
Isn't that america's favorite pastime these days?

I trully believe this board is competing with /pol/ to see who has more schizos

>>13968085
she despises her because matuli wants to marry her brother, not some random roastie

>>13968252
I don't even watch VTubers yet I keep up with all the schizo threads for some reason.

>>13968336
That means you're the schizo anon

>this thread
Kronii is so boring people would talk about other menheras.

>>13968252
/Pol/ never had shizos you just dont like what you see. Resetera might be more suited for you.

I'm surprised nobody ever talks about Ame when the topic of menheras comes up

>>13965699
>its been confirmed holos have creative freedom in their designs
where did you hear that bullshit? Everything EN says they have a near-total lack of choice. Character design begins before they are even hired, the talents are assigned to characters by management and not by the talent's choice, and they get only minor edits before debut.
This changes with second outfits but the initial character and design is outside the talent's control.

>>13966197
I expect there's a wide cultural difference in what people consider "fat"
A western wrestler or professional weight lifter isn't fat but they're going to be huge by jap standards and jap standards will consider them fat.
Compare that to, like, stereotype of sumo who also look fat even by western standards (loose skin/flab).

>>13963865
>her

>>13968895
You know Kiara's design is so awful because she asked for a lot of random shit right? You know Ina personally wanted kuroboshi right? Why did Calli get a persona that was so similar to her previous one? Gura getting a loli design? Holy shit absolute retard

>>13965402
You faggots always acted like she was a fucking blue whale until I dug a bit and she was more akin to Mei from Overwatch. Obviously still fat but you make it sound like she was one of those morbidly obese 300kg lard tubes from those american reality shows like "my 600-lb life"

>>13968229
>has a fake identity for attention
>is depressed as a result
>doesn't want to stream because realizing she's popular as a stream clashes with her personal identity of being a tumblr weirdo

>>13968291
So is that why she molested him?

>>13968121
>>13966291
Pretending to be a tranny/"genderfluid" would actually make it easier, not harder, to find a person, if that was your autistic wish.

>>13969135
I think the artists kind of try to match the designs to their assigned roommates, but they don't get a say on the design itself. But we'll never know exactly how it works because "small Japanese idol company, please understand."

>>13965631
Ina and Omega did nothing wrong or right.

>>13969135
Gura got a loli because nachoneko only draws lolis.

>>13966291
give me a break anon, you can't actually believe this

>>13968198
For you

>>13966270
>american food

Everything has its calories listed anon.

>>13969135
The girls have said multiple times they had barely any say in the general concept of their design, including Gura fairly recently. If they fit their designs it's because they were hired because they fit them. Why do you think there are designs that go unused and get canned?

>>13963898
Kiara is just a typical woman not getting enough attention, not menhera.

>>13964446
>Aqua
Wha? She's just ultra introverted.

>>13969135
It might be that they just hire holos based on how cloesely the roommate resembles a character they comissioned before hand, sounds retarded but when you had many equally good applicants it somehow makes sense to just trust that the God/Universe wanted this person all along.

>>13969420
Aqua barely functions as a human being. I think that's pretty menhera.

>>13969587
That's not what menhera means.

>>13969170
Spoonfeed me anon

How does Ame rank here?

>>13965975
>>"End up tilting and your team ends 19/20 only because the other team was memeing with controllers"
The best part here is that team was Shien's.

>>13965185
Cope

>trick everyone about gender
>get into hololive
>get 100x the audience of a normal vtuber with no effort
>barely stream because lazy as fuck
>complain about mental issues
let me withhold my sympathy

>>13968791
Ame is just stubborn to a fault. It's fine, she does what she wants to, enjoys herself, and jumps from one project to another to try and fight off boredom and maybe a little bit of depression. Pretty normal by American standards
>>13969223
Sounds like a life of suffering, but I guess that's what you get for trying to appeal to the 'loud minority' online. Sooner or later you realize most people just don't fucking care and it shows up passively by shit like view counts.
>>13969170
She may be viewed a bit differently being Japanese living in Japan.

>>13969170
>Obviously still fat but
Anyone with a gut that hangs is overweight
I don't care if you think she looked cute

>>13970373
>Anyone with a gut that hangs is overweight
Read anywhere in my post where I said otherwise?
>I don't care if you think she looked cute
Read anywhere in my post where I even implied this?

She's not even the most mentally ill EN.

>>13970045
>>13970291
I think the thing is that "being a weird loser" was part of her identity for so long and a general explanation (to herself) why she wasn't successful, that suddenly more or less winning the lottery completely destroyed her identity and she's now forced to face the fact all that shit was fake. Like how Kurt Cobain was a nobody living in his car, then a week later he was a millionaire from Nevermind, then 3 years later he killed himself because he didn't like being famous because he felt being outside the system was essential to his identity and he was bisexual and probably high on heroin when he killed himself.

>>13968085
No need for anything really, a buch of sisters seem to be like that. Mine instantly hates any women as soon as they look into my general direction. Before she hit 20 she'd be frothing from her mouth whenever one approached me. She's mellowed down over time though which doesn't seem to be matuli's case.

I used to think it was Kiara for EN members, but I eventually realized that she's just a regular dumb woman with some trust issues. A lot of women you'll meet nowadays are like her.

>>13964832
Wasn't she just diagnosed with depression?

>>13965091
>suicidal membership posts
What the fuck?

>>13966270
Stop coping on behalf of others. Genetics raise and lower BMR by at most 5% outside of rare diseases, a completely negligible amount especially if you exercise even a little bit. American food is no different than food elsewhere; you can buy potatoes, eggs, whatever else, pretty much anywhere on Earth. If all you eat is premade garbage filled with corn syrup Calories you should expect to get fat whether you're eating it in America or the fucking Philippines. Information on eating a proper diet is not hard to find, nor is it hard to find recipes made from simple ingredients that can be frozen to eat throughout the week, with far more nutritive substance. If you can't do something so simple, you deserve to be ridiculed.
t. dietitian

>>13970934
Yes, though she was diagnosed with more than that and has admitted to not taking her meds, which makes her by default the most proven mentally ill hololive vtuber. She has made frequent allusions to suicide, some of them not even in her member posts, she straight up mentioned how she was thinking about it outright in the now privated stream where she talked about her cat's death.

>>13969135
>You know Kiara's design is so awful because she asked for a lot of random shit right?
Take your meds and stop making shit up, schizochama. Kiara basically apologized for her design having a super sentai theme when she isn't into super sentai at all. That's how little input she had on her original design.

>>13971139
Nah bruh I literally went on a diet of fast food every other day for over two years and stayed underweight, your science is a scam. Or maybe my metabolism is fucked up beyond normal.

>>13964277
>>13965086

Yeah Haachama is actually supersane if anythin. She basically manifested a split persona for her career to contain her mental breakdown and make it a character to survive 2020, that’s unironically a pretty high level feat of strength

>>13971226
>Or maybe my metabolism is fucked up beyond normal.
that's definitely it. don't get too used to it though, heard it doesn't last forever so your terrible eating habits will definitely backfire.
t. skinnyfag that eats like shit

>>13971226
Fast food doesn't make people fat, Anon. No kind of food makes people fat. People make themselves fat.

>>13971226
Calories in, Calories out. If you eat more calories than you burn, you store them as fat, doesn't matter where they come from. You'll feel like shit if you get all your calories from fast food (malnutrition), but if you don't eat more than you burn, you will remain the same weight. Have you got the amount of calories you consumed during that period and the amount you expended? Even your current weight and rough activity level would probably do for the latter. Fast food establishments are required by federal law to state the Calories of every food item served. Without these data, your anecdote is meaningless, because it's just an anecdote, as good as me saying your oshi is my wife and she's sucking me off while I write this.
>>13971320
Metabolic differences do not exist outside of extreme outlier cases like hormonal problems which you would notice elsewhere in life and would appear immediately in routine physical examinations.

>>13971421
true, but some people pass calories through them without absorbing. So some people get fat easier than others

>>13963811
I don't see "damaged" tatooed on her forehead so I can't really say for sure

>>13971447
Everyone absorbs nutrients identically outside of, again, rare outliers that would be caught in routine physicals - celiac, anything with a symptom of IBS, or rare enzyme insufficiencies that you'd also see in bloodwork (unexplained vitamin deficiencies).
It's related pretty much entirely to hunger and related habits; humans are terrible at judging food intake objectively without tools, it's part of why we're so prone to eating disorders actually. Most people would see immediate improvement in whichever weight direction they're after (or at least find actionable habit trends) by just buying a $12 food scale off the internet and installing a tracker like cronometer onto their phone to weigh homemade foods. Since any restaurant with more than like 5 employees or two locations is required by law to state at least calories and macronutrients, you haven't even got to weigh those. Most people are really shocked when they put objective measure to their habits and get away from "archetypal" eating descriptions like "snacker" or "big eater."

What ever happened with Mori and her manager?

>>13971421
the second guy was just saying your metabolism slows as you age, i noticed i had to start eating like less of a retard after like 26-27

i wish kronii would just let go and start liking her fans. she would be entertaining if she didn't hold back her true personality not the sjw shit shes forcing onto herself

>>13971226
There are a lot of factors people forget about. Some people don't walk at all and some walk a couple of km every week without realizing it, which normally doesn't count as exercise if you ask them. Also their speed is another factor.

>>13964436
>neck and neck tie
I thought you meant neck and a neck tie that you wear at first and got really confused

>>13964436
Matsuri is the most menhera. Bitch actually pulled a knife on her own mother and tried to kill her.

>>13965376
>literal e-clown making fun of themselves is a sign that they’re coping well
Aren’t there many cases of self-deprecating comedians actually being really depressed and killing themselves?

>>13966090
In Japan people have the correct attitude about being fat? What a nightmare.
>>13966270
Unless you're so poor you need your meals to be under a dollar, this is no excuse. Maybe it's an excuse for growing up fat with shitty burger parents (or rather, parent), but then it's on you to get fit.
t. fit but grew up fat and used to be 100lbs overweight

>>13963811
Why does she have a problem with people standing close to her?

>>13966090
>I'm not fat
t. fatass
The only correct response to obesity is ridicule, they'll either lose weight or kill themselves, both of which are a net positive on society as a whole

>>13972455
when you're autistic people invading you personal space gives you a very strong negative reaction
Also being autistic means your "personal" space is usually larger than most peoples. I took me a VERY long time to not freak out in crowds and I'm still not at all comfortable, even at 35

>>13970590
Yeah, this sounds plausible.

>>13971315
Yes, it's why she cared about the COEXIST arc so much and why she made Infinity, her 2st original song.

>>13971957
The SJW shit is her true self. She would go full woke communist gender/race theory if she wasn't holding it back.

>>13973102
Based Clover saving Kronii from become another twitterfag LARPing as a revolutionary

>>13973102
I CAN CHANGE HER I CAN CHANGE HER

>>13973253
having a job and friends is unironically the best way to stop being a political extremist retard

>>13971957
Anon the SJW shit is herself, shes deeper into that hole that even Kiara.

>>13973253
>saving
slowing down at most, bitch is like one year away from surgery to cut off her tits and becoming a full time freak.

>>13964244
I call bullshit on that.

>>13973102
Kronii literally tells offensive jokes all the time, in the past she barely reacted to someone spamming the n word in the chat, she even once voiced something that had maga hats in it, she also is a first generation Korean immigrant and knows the horrors of communism, she is in no ways an sjw

Were the rrats true?

>>13964244
>>13973879
She didn't wanna transition, but its still pretty bad. In her previous persona she would say she is non binary or some shit. Her whole circle of friends is also filled with LGBT stuff and she herself is a major dyke.

Let me just say, this are the chuubas you faggots deserve, you invited all this shit when you welcomed yuri into becoming the standard for this girls. Now only crazy lesbians or bi sexual women want to even get near this industry. Imagine you had a carrer that only allowed men and they were never supposed to show interest in women, and you are surprised when the whole thing gets filled with faggots.

>>13974148
>she also is a first generation Korean immigrant and knows the horrors of communism
Asian girls who grew up in the west are nothing like asian women from asia.

>>13969270
They have a say in that they can ask the mama/papa to do something with the design, but if they will actually do it is up for the mama/papa. Nachoneko refused Gura asking for an ahoge for example, but gave her top teeth (she asked for both though), Kiara is the one that asked for the restaurant stuff I believe.

>>13974223
>slightly lower voice aka not grating to listen to
>people immediately go "TRANNY"

>>13974148
Asian-American princesses are the worst people in the universe
Ina is in the same boat, they both are spoiled brats that completely lack empathy

>>13974327
I get the impression Wada probably made Kronii to her own preferences.

>>13974223
I love Kronii and want to believe this, it makes her vocal accomplishments even grander, I however do not believe she is an sjw, an sjw wouldn't joke about stuff like treecist, privilege, discriminatory, etc. She is likely right leaning

>>13974345
>he doesn't know

>>13974429
>an sjw wouldn't joke about stuff like treecist, privilege, discriminatory, etc.
It's called satire.

>>13974430
nor do I want to, I just want chuubas that aren't annoying to listen to

>>13974429
Leafs aren't as big on the american PC culture as you might think.

>>13974223
>>13974345
The rrat isn't that shes a man pretending to he a women, the rrat is that she is a women who wants to become a man.

Losing weight is genuinely so easy. Fatties should nt exist. If you you are in this thread right now and have a BMI of >28. Eat 2100 calories a day for a full year.

>>13974313
She is like 24, she said she came here when she was like 10, you can tell this by how she occasionally makes mistakes with English, she probably lost a family member or two to one of Kim's men, she would probably rip Kiara or Mori a second asshole on stream if either of them started proclaiming their love for communism

>>13974824
Is Mori or Kiara a commie?

>>13974581
the hardest part of losing weight as a fat cunt is losing hte dopamine hit of sugar
I lost a fuckload of wieght (over 200lbs) over the course of 18 months and I've since put most of it back on since covid hit and I lost the dopamine hits of socialisation
If I eat shit, I feel bad, if I don't, I feel worse.

>>13974865
I don't actually believe either of them are like that, I was just using them for an example

>>13974865
Both are SJWs, socially leftist, economically idk but for sure somewhere on the left too.

>>13971788
I had a threesome with them

>>13968159
Oh boy a schizo anon

>>13974987
I know that Kiara is an SJW, but it's the first time I see someone calling Mori that, what is the reason?

>>13971315
Chama is just a normal person. She just likes having fun. Aki Haato was bland and boring she wasn't having fun with being a gap moe idol.

>>13974824
Still not entirely sure how a slave based monarchy whose entire society is based on class structure is believed to be communist just because they say they are. It's like if people started calling feudal aged Europe a communist state

>>13974987
Being an SJW doesn't mean you support totalitarian communist regimes, you schizo. Kronii can hate North Korea and communism but still be LGBT.

>>13974379
>Ina is in the same boat, they both are spoiled brats that completely lack empathy
So Ina bullying her/Mori's viewers that one time negates every time she teared up hearing about takos she inspired to do their art reps and otherwise improve their lives? As a hikki NEET she just somehow developed the ruthless social cunning to pull out the crocodile tears and mime emotion at a moment's notice?
Wow, she's pure evil.

>>13975121
The state has full control of the economy.

>>13975180
>hikki NEET
There's a difference between being a hikki neet living on social handouts in government housing and being Ina, living in your wealthy parents basement wanting for nothing making bank selling art to chinese mobile games
Her attitude stems from her effectively hitting the lottery with art (and again with hololive) and she hates her audience because they're not anywhere near as lucky as she is (and it is luck, even if she doesn't think so)
It's very easy to fake caring, it's hard to keep that facade up forever, it's why the break happened. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often, especially since she's pigeonholed herself as the "comfy" streamer that losers attach themselves to.
Imagine thinking you escaped loserdom only to be surrounded by people in worse places than you can possibly imagine.

>>13975180
>So Ina bullying her/Mori's viewers that one time negates every time she teared up hearing about takos she inspired to do their art reps and otherwise improve their lives? As a hikki NEET she just somehow developed the ruthless social cunning to pull out the crocodile tears and mime emotion at a moment's notice?
>Wow, she's pure evil.
Yes.

People here really focus on minor maladaptive behaviors as evidence of actual mental illness. Attention seeking, faking distress, etc. are potential symptoms of mental illness but not terribly strong ones. You have to remember their job is to retain peoples attention: these might be positive and intentional behaviors in that context. People can also just be toxic. Depression is what some of the girls likely have and they have both good and bad coping mechanisms. Few seem to have significant enough problems that it impedes their daily life, at least beyond your typical streamer.

>>13975125
LGBT does equal sjw either (look at Kaitlyn, the most famous tranny), my rrat is that Kronii transitioned to a girl (part of the reason her parents hate her) but is still right-leaning, she has already proven herself to be an edgelord who tells offensive jokes regularly, I don't think someone like this is an sjw, also she is likely the second most religious council member behind mumei which furthers it

>>13975370
*doesn't

>>13975104
Mori is very in pro tranny shit, made pro tranny songs in her roomate account.

>>13975370
Kronii is a women, as in women. She is simply a dyke and has daid she is non binary. There is roomate info out there, she isn't a tranny, she is a dyke who dates butch dykes.

>>13975370
>Kronii is a tranny
Disgusting, please don't insult her like that.

>>13975370
meds
now

>>13975336
There's nothing wrong with Ina. You're a schizo niggerfaggot and you need to take your meds.

>>13973372
>having a job and friends is unironically the best way to stop being a political extremist retard
An important caveat is that those friends need to not be political extremist retards, or it has the opposite effect and they're just gaslit and peer pressured into toeing the line.
Or straight up threats, even. I have a friend who's been maintaining basic social graces for years with a clique of the absolute dregs of the internet, think 100% extremists and all pronoun'd up or full on troons, and for all those years he's been utterly sick of them but too scared to leave the group because they've doxxed, harassed the family/workplace of two others who left and they have the info to do it to him as well.
>hurr what a pussy
Yeah, maybe. I've tried talking him into fucking off and dealing with any shit they pull multiple times but he'd rather wait it out for potentially many more years, since they're all NEET schizos who live on the internet and probably won't be fucking off until they rope.

>>13975226
Correct. That isn't exclusive to communism. A communist society the state is also controlled by the people and is primarily concerned about removing classism (which is dumb because it creates power vacuums as we've seen)
NK is a feudal society where all wealth is funneled to the top upper rung not unlike nobility. They're literally a monarchy where most of the population are slaves. I mean you can think communism is bad but don't fall for their propaganda.

>>13973372
Hilariously wrong.

>>13975489
>>13975226
>>13975121
jfc none of you know a thing about communism or political science shut the fuck up you retarded babie

>>13975489
>communist society
>controlled by the people
Hahahahahahahahaha

>>13973372

Your friends need to not be insane and your job needs to not be dogshit

>>13975336
>hitting the lottery
Based until this point, this is only a take boomers and redditors have because they don't consider these jobs "real" jobs, as long as you try hard and improve your skills you will make it, it is 2021, this is a viable path, all of the examples of "failures" are do to the people behind them not trying hard enough, if people like you were around a long time ago we would have never had the Renaissance, imagine telling DaVinci that art wasn't a viable career choice and was "unstable", if you did this he would have never gone on to do what he did, this is how you create more Hitlers

>>13975479
>No you can't see through my comfy submissive asian gfs act noooooo take ur meds schizo
Delude yourself all you want, I'll keep watching girls that got where they are out of hard work

>>13975679
she literally said she got lucky

>>13975705
>I'll keep watching girls that got where they are out of hard work
You'll keep watching Ina and seething about her because you're mentally deranged.

>>13975679
Now more than ever making a living with art is hitting the lottery. How many hundreds of thousands of chinks can shit out passable anime style artwork? Character design is a trained skill, sure but there's an inherent ability to actual art and some people just don't have it.
You can improve sure, but without the "eye" for art you'll never be actually good. At best you'll get some pity orders from SJWs or something. Ina is ludicrously lucky in life, there's tens of thousands of people in the exact same situation, and I'm sure many of them are better at making Genshin characters than she is. The only difference is that a chinese megacorp noticed her and not them.

>>13975665
That's why communist collectives don't exist for long and are a bad idea. Power vacuums are a bitch and people naturally try to return to a class based system.
>>13975656
Open a book

>>13975772
I don't watch Ina, hell I don't watch any ENs regularly. Suisei is my oshi, and you can say what you like about her but she's where she is because of autistic levels of hard work and effort

>>13975451
It is only an insult if you are a schizo, I am a tranny but also am super far right and I wish that every libtard and sjw would be burnt

>>13975761
That's what everyone says unless they don't mind coming off as arrogant.

睡眠時間が短く、昼夜逆転の度合が激しいほど精神的に問題が出てくる
また、一日のストリーミング時間が長いほど、「依存症的傾向」であると言える。(言い換えればそういうストリーマーは現実の生活になんらかの問題を抱えているかもしれない)

>Kronii is a woke communist SJW tranny dyke
>nuh-uh she's a based cysgender trad racist just like me
Can anyone possible be more mentally ill than /vt/?

>>13975888
Take meds, but the other ones

>>13970590
>Kurt Cobain killed himself
Okay Courtney.

>>13974379
watch how one man effortlessly shits up the entire thread, which I thought could not get worse, by comparing ina to kronii

>>13975761
Ina is also a retard like the entirety of myth, there is a good reason why all future en members are going to be part of a council in some God lore situation that connects to myth in no way, imagine future council meetings, they will be pretty much everyone in en except myth

>>13975761
>yeah I just got lucky haha
There's two kinds of people that say this, those that don't remember how hard it was to get where they were, and those that genuinely got lucky and have no idea how to repeat their success
Ina is the latter.

>>13964594
To fuck someone like her would be a miracle for 90% of anons on this board anon

>>13975989
Is am the one who said she is a trad racist like me, I also believe that she is a tranny dyke and helped push that too

>>13965831

But we do the same thing…?

Sometimes?

>>13976110
What can I saw, it's over a decade of practice saying offensive truths that anons will instantly rage

>>13975985
これってポルカのメン限投稿か?

>>13975888
>I am a tranny
You destroyed your body for a Jewish meme.

>>13975859
The problem with communism isn't that it creates a power vacuum. It's that communism is an aristocracy that tricks people with leftist "power to the worker" rhetoric. Communist regimes fall when the workers realize they've been bamboozled and rope the commies.

>>13976209
meds

>>13976478
Chicken and the egg situation. Regardless the word communism has meaning and NK is not it.

>>13969587
That's being a neet
Menhera is being psychotic/sociopathic

>>13965999
WELL THEN. THATS UNDERSTANDABLE

>>13976484
I will take hormones and redpills, those are the meds for 4chan, the right-leaning website founded off a want to be a little girl

>>13963811
>Aqua
During a fucking Minecraft stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_8XIKLsC6c

>>13975877
>writes unhinged rrat-filled shitposts about Ina on /vt/
>clearly obsessed
>n-no I don't watch her
Sure thing, Anonchama.

>>13976691
Delete this post before others realize we did this

>>13976779
I wish I was obsessed with an EN, you have any idea how hard it is obsessing over JPs when you can barely ask for a drink/

>>13976691
4chan only became right-leaning when moot left. It was originally full of SJWs especially in the old mod team.

>>13963873
Isn't she just really fat?

>>13976691
Holy fuck that logic is air tight. It's time for us all to accept our fate and become nazi dickgirls

>>13965052
JUST STOP EATING

>>13976855
I didn't like en until council, I like all council, especially Kronii since she is super relatable (plus she also occasionally tells offensive jokes like you might see /here/ which are funny), they even made me check out IRyS (I didn't originally watch her because she played gaysex legends, she doesn't anymore though) and I found out that I like IRyS too

>>13976944
4chan was always counter culture. The pendulum has swung in society and therefore it has here as well.

>>13977083
/pol/ is full of boomers and actual shills for politicians these days. If anything 4chan has moved more towards socially accepted normalcy in recent years.

>>13976944
>It was originally full of SJWs especially in the old mod team
"SJW" described a completely different person in late 2000s than it does now.
If anything 4chan modding team is the classic case of Internet edgelord pivoting 180° to save face with their new internet friends.
Or will you try telling me faggot and nigger usage here started during election?

>>13963811
>kronii
a newfag tourist who's never watched holojp a day in his life made this thread

>>13971139
It’s not a problem of will power: if it was, skinny people should be incredibly strong mentally. But they aren’t anymore successful or driven than anyone else. Yes calories are calories but there are clearly complex psychological factors at play. It’s pretty embarrassing to be a dietician and not recognize this. “Just eat better lol” is a demonstrably ineffective solution.

>>13975107
literally every single person who's hung out with her said that she was weird, hyperactive and just fun to be around
haachama on stream IS haachama, akai haato was fake

>>13979812
I'm skinny and always have been, but that doesn't mean I can't gain weight - with the lockdowns in particular, I've gained probably 5kg.
Sitting on your ass the whole day and eating more than you need to does that. Conversely, eating half as much and working out every day means you WILL lose weight.
Being hungry doesn't kill you. If you want to slim down you can. You just don't care enough.

>>13979812
You're projecting and putting words into my mouth, but this is nearly a dead thread, so you'll go to your grave a fool I suppose

>>13979812
>complex psychological factors
>I'm bored, let's get a snack
>I'm thirsty, gonna buy some coke
>I'm hungry for the 6th time today, fries/burgers it is
Most fatties just like to eat a ton or just go for the most caloric thing available whenever an apple would suffice. Fatfuck.