/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

Has HoloEN become more hated on vt or are they most bait posts?

>>13960062
Well most are just baits, because genuine fans stay in their containment threads.

>>13960062
It's just /jp/ taking a giant shit on this board. Marineschizo has been shitting up global too.

>>13960062
It's just Nijifags using them as cope material.
>NijiEN still are fucking midgets and declining even.
>NijiJP fucking declining
>Gen 6 is doing well
>Bora graduated and Yumenographia disbanding
>Got continuously mogged in the daily rankings
>Only Niji in the SC Ranking of Nov is Kuzuha

Poor Nijifags got it rough

>>13960118
Let's hope they stay there and not doing what chumbuds did by harassing Gura when she returns.

>>13960139
I'm surprised Nijisanji has such fervent fanbase on 4chan. Their efforts are remarkable in comparison to their number.

>>13960145
Chumbuds killed my dog too, the fucking bastards.

>>13960118
Huh, Marineschizo came over from /jp/?

>>13960118
I feel this place is faster than usual

>>13960145
>harassing gura
How? You mean chumbuds doomposting in their containment thread? That's just par for the course when she takes a break, it's just worse this time since she didn't really say how long she'll be gone.

>>13960197
Their hatred for Gura is so immense that if they find out their cancer doctor is a chumbud, I'm sure they would rather die.

>>13960200
Yea, he's one of the main culprits of the increased shitspoting after the debut, a schizo of the highest order.
>>13960034

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObrbV7lKBy4

More than 100k view after 1 hour

Are most people from /jp/ Last Samurais? They seem to hate anything EN with a passion.

>>13960237
He means shitposters posing as chumbuds like himself.

>>13960320
the ones who don't stay in /jp/, the ones who do come over here to shitpost because they can't get (you)s in /jp/

>N_NijiEN... ;-(
What could help them break through the numbers glass ceiling?

>>13960377
Stop being HololEN-Lite and be more like Nijisanji-JP

>>13960422
so fail even harder?

The orca is about to end. Here come the funneling.

>>13959936
faggot the other thread wil be up for another hour at least, what the fuck are you doing

>>13960176
They are responsible to 95% of the shitposts here on this board.

>>13960536
It's full of baits, falseflagging, and samefagging schizos

>>13960602
As if this threat will be better with that OP

>>13960602
yeah and splitting the conversation is so much better

Iroha at 35k.
Illegal and I think now all HoloX is on the top 10.

The samurai really nervous and trying her best...dang it's gonna attract alot of fans

> Cute voice
> Ecchi design
> PON personified
> Doing her English reps (both language and songs)

Bros, I think we finally found the Gura and Pekora killer...

>>13960139
>NijiEN still are fucking midgets and declining even.
Post actual evidence they are declining. A chart that includes Ethyria is not evidence. They are on the lower end of views but high SC. The only ones factually declining are holoEN. Lost over 50% of their viewers over time and are making much less money now.

>>13960794
Hope she unironically becones no.1 so that those 2 would finally get a break from shitposters

>>13960902
Shitposts never disappear...some anons still shitpost about Aqua and Korone

Ninja talking 46k!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>13960876
that's alot of cope coming out of your mouth my bro

>13960876
>no numbers showing "their 50% loss of viewers"
Cry more.

>>13960876
>A chart that includes Ethyria is not evidence
Ethyria is part of NijIEN no?

Come on Iroha. Sing SSS for the 50k.

>>13960876
Guess i'll make a chart with Mori, Irys, Mumei, Gura, Pekora, Miko, Subaru, Aqua, FBK, and all holoX then

>>13961019
They lower the average of the whole branch but they don't lower the average of individual streamers. Go back to grade school, moron.

>>13961019
Disowned when it comes to CCV

Samurai actually sings not bad...well her subs gonna go up now at least

>>13960876
we can remove ethyria of the superchats ranking because they are not part of nijien then

>>13960928
Genuinely feel bad for Korone's decline, one of my best Hololive memories is laying in bed with a fever while comfy watching Korone tackle Segagaga in a marathon only she could do.

>>13961073
That's not how it works sister...

>>13961019
>13961073
>m-my deadweights don't count!

>>13960876
Is this enough for you, then? A chart that separated Ethyria and NijiEN

Japanese blond samurai 50k get

50k get for the Samurai, not bad

Samurai 50k GET

>>13961073
anon please, stop trying, you're just embarrasing yourself

Iroha 50k get.
As expected of Nippon.

>>13961073
Nijis have been mogged too much that it also affected Nijifags.
Their brain is absolutely wrecked right now.

Do you think any indie ENVtubers will study HoloX to apply their strat for HoloEN3 audition?

>>13961189
So gens 1+2 stabilized at the end of the month where there was Selen's bday, but we're dropping throughout the month otherwise.
Meanwhile, wave 3 is down in the mud. Jeez.

>>13961073
please just bait, someone this retarded should just commit suicide

>>13961307
I would fucking hope so.

>YOSAOBI
Oh no no no ... Here comes the number ...

>>13961342
but I can't do that on mobile

>>13961381
Oh, she's not bad. Like what kind of black magic is this that the entire gen has such a broad range of skills?! Like wtf, isn't she also supposed to be a blockgame programmer too on top of this?

It's surprising how many posts this thread manages to generate talking about the same stuff over and over and over.

>>13961189
That's widly different from the other chart for some reason, but it proves there's no decline. It's in line with previous months numbers.

>>13961215
>>13961299
>>13961317
Kill yourselves holobronies. You know what I meant. Ethyria didn't affect the average of individual streamers. There was no 'cannibalism'.

TANIGOX ACTUALLY HIRED LON WTF

>>13961394
>phoneposting
>phonetubing
Anon, just give up...

Suisei will end up getting that mark because that's probably her goal.

126k watching Hololive right now.

>>13961421
It's kinda of what you get when you have thousands of applications

>>13961307
Things will change on the hiring end
There's no way the literal shit they hired for council was the top of the crop.

>>13961437
this is the numbers thread, not the alchemy thread, we don't do shit here like discount underperformers because it makes your side look bad

>>13961394
You absolutely can, I belive in you anon

>>13961421
Scouting done right. Can't get into newer Hololive gens without at least this breadth of talent.

>>13961421
>did someone mention black magic?

>>13960200
noelschizo was there a while ago as well

>>13961421
Isn't this one the mysterious hire? Since no one was able to found her roommate

>>13961421
She's also decent at drawing

>>13961527
they are a same schizo

>>13961421
I said this in the previous thread, but it bears repeating: her voice is unique within Hololive and that is an automatic passive buff for her. If she trains for it, she might be a contender.

>>13961530
All have been found.

>>13961530
Is that so? I thought some JPs thought she was some Jp Twitch indie chubba but I'll be honest, I don't care that much about who they used to be to keep up.

>>13961437
Still part of NijiEN, retarded nigger. Go commit suicide and record it, i'll pay for your funeral

>>13961073
holy based falseflagger making nijiniggers look even more retarded

>>13961496
oh yeah, I can. I didn't bother to try

>>13961447
It’s not her.

>>13961530
>is it actually HER?

>>13961460
A loy less than yestersay. Almost same quantity of streams

What ever happened to those schizos that said Hololive didn't have suitable candidates for the two dropped models because no one applied ?

>>13961551
i thought noelschizo hated noel since they liked flare+marine

>>13961560
The rrats were wrong about Koyori

>>13961634
Then who is she?

>>13961610
Seems like he was right. How do you go from hiring Nobuhime to literally 2views?

>>13961604
Then who is she?

>>13961589
The only retard here is you. People were always constantly talking about how Ethyria was going to cannibalize the other waves viewers yet that didn't happen. That was what I was referring to.

>>13961657
>filthy doxxnigger

>>13961700
based dubs

>>13961459
Phone is better because you are not limited to be sitting in a chair

>>13961437
As much as you'd like to wish away the poor performers, no, that isn't how it works. You can argue that they haven't lost much, but eyeballing it waves 1+2 have lost about 100 off of their median from the start of October, so it's more like only a minor decline if you remove wave 3, but that looks like a decline nonetheless man. It stabilized off a stronger end of November, but as a whole it's still a downtick since wave 3 joined in October.

>>13961657
Even the nips don't know. She's like another Shuba

>>13961736
So koyote and gozalez is still unknown then?

>>13961803
Yeah

>>13961626
>marineschizo
>noelschizo
>furemari poster
they are a same person

Samurai finally took a sharp dip at 12AM

>>13961843
i thought the schizo thing was a meme

Freaking loads of overlaps
>Shion (Announcement + Singing)
>Laplus (Talk Stream)
>Koyori (ASMR)
>Mel (Radio Station)

>>13961803
>gozalez
kek, honorary latinx?

>>13961862

Koyori is starting. Also, last song now

>>13961634
So this might be another Subaru hire? I'd be glad if it is since it keeps the SOUL of Hololive intact. I wonder if Yagoo still takes part in the hiring process despite how busy the business side of things have become? Ollie said that he was there during the final interview, so if he bothers showing up for an ID then I'm assuming he's even more involved in the JP side?

>>13961889
Did you forget that Latino's are balls deep into anime? We will take if you leave it, anon.

>>13961634
How do they know that it's wrong?

>Gozaru~!
Cute de gozaru! I hope she keeps this tic for that kind of shit.

>>13961937
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/13955322/#q13955322

so is it true that most of their fans overlap? chloe I heard took another dive once iroha started streaming

>~De Gozaru beam

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>13961727
You're looking at just a single month worth of data here: >>13961189 November average isn't lower than August average, therefore there was no decline. It's just a small variance. HoloEN has much bigger variances all the time.

>>13962019
>Yakusoku de gozaru~!

>>13962052
Wasn't Coyote Lillyel?

>>13962075
Orca declined from 70k once Peko and the others started. But she maintained 50k until the game finished

>>13962116
Nope

>>13962052
That girl isn't the girl that 5ch guess.
Still Amatsuka is very common name for vtubers...

>>13962128
Her fan definitely not overlapped with Pekora. Pekora maintain the 30k range from the beginning

>>13962052
It's different girl with similar name.

>Prepare for funneling

>>13962171
>fans
Why are you even talking about fans not even a week after debut?

>>13962171
The others then, I wasn't keeping check closely as I was watching. I just know it dropped to 50k and held there until the end where it went to 30k

>>13962075
Everybodys avergae is down while the new girls stream also lot less eyes today from 200k to 150k.

>>13962128
once peko started I saw she went down to 60k~sh but I was too busy with something else to confirm this, because I saw that once iroha started and was in her 20k~sh floor chloe was at 40k, maybe she was finishing up the stream at that time? because iroha's peak was 55k right?
this just leaves me to believe that most of their fans overlap

Is it me or did Subaru and Pekora lose a couple of viewers once Coyote started?

>>13962177
At least someone doesn't confuse her with Uto

>>13962155
>>13962177
Ah, my bad. Too many rrats going around to keep track off

She knows

>new gen already declining
>doesn't even have any fans of their own, all of their fans overlap
kek, into the trash faster than Edengumi

>>13962252

SHION WAKI!

>>13962226
Pegor got susan'd. Im watching her stream then it suddenly buffering.

>>13962227
Yeah, 50k was the average with all the overlaps. She only went below when the game was finishing

>>13962303
Oh, that makes sense. Thanks.

>>13962252
ToT

>>13962245
As far as I know, from the beginning people immediately found her to be Amatsuka Lilyel. I don't know which idiots mistook her with the girl on that r*ddit post.

>13962272
>Edengumi

You ain't getting that (You), schizo

>>13962093
Yes, that's a reasonable look.
Good lord though that means that Wave 3 brought in a paltry amount of new viewers compared to wave 2 though. That certainly is concerning for future growth. The numbers they had when there were major overlaps were pretty bad for wave 3 too, but I know they've begun to space out there streams a bit more so it isn't as bad, last I bothered to check Nijimado.

Pretty sure koyori's roommate was correct, all her interests and stream types are exactly the same. Iroha is still up in the air because the one speculated is a real 2view and has no archives except a few clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py_baVtbJ2g

What does she means by that title ...

>>13962389
Retarded SEA ESLs from here breaking containment.

>Samurai plans to take a day off to play the new FFXIV update
>Manager flips out and forces her to clear Jump King before she's allowed to play FFXIV

GJ manager-san

>>13962373
She got Susan again.

>>13962495
Based holoX mane-chan, it was also his idea to get Lui to play Outlast and that was pretty funny.

>>13960569
Holobronies are the cause of all the problems.

>TOP WINNERS OF DECEMBER 2021
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The radio station

Doesn't look good for Nijisanji in the first two weeks. After the first debut buff week, Myth is going to have their new outfits. Also, tomorrow is the probably the announcement for Holofest 3, hopefully next month.

>>13962495
>forces her to clear Jump King
Her manager is sadist. I bet she has same manager with Lui

>>13962495
So no more breaks?

>>13962272
They wont drop to endengumi. My worry is they bringing everyones average down.
Shion cant even get 20k on a karaoke and watame cant get her 5k with ff. Kanata is down, mel is down, luna is down too.

>>13961724
I typed this post on a tabletop while standing up. Your move.

>>13962495
Kek. Too bad for her, work comes before leisure.

>>13962626
Yeah, she can't take a day off until she finishes Jump King

>TOYA ENTERS

>>13962611
OH NO NO NO NO... Maskbros... Chloe is reclining...

>>13962611
Can Chloe beat Gura´s 11 wins?

>>13962629
Those are their usual numba anon-chama

>>13962644
I typed this post on your mom's phone while fucking her. Your move.

>>13962687
Is he doing something special? Or just came back to collect his paycheck?

>>13962629
Meanwhile, Subaru and Pekora still got their expected numbers (26k for shuba and 35k for peko)

>>13962687
Well he'll be included for tomorrow

>>13962748
>5k kanata mk8
No it isnt. She get 8k usually
Mel also gets 2k for chilla shit
Luna gets 4k in kate night
And watame gets 5k for FF
Shion karaoke also hits 20k late night easily too.

>>13962272

no way they get that low

Meru...

>>13962807
Was pekers qith marine at the beggining?

>>13962810
Kanata already peaked earlier no?

>>13962810
Anon....she's been going at it for 5 fucking hours now, she's not gonna hold her numbers for Mario Kart for that long.

>>13962703
Myth's outfit reveal next week

>>13962860
Kanata average 8k for her mk8 challenges this way below normal.

>>13962807
>Meanwhile, Subaru and Pekora still got their expected numbers (26k for shuba and 35k for peko)
You get rewarded for being consistent and playing solo games to build your own audience, who would've thought.

>>13962860
She peaked at 17k at around 8pm jst

Is numberfagging tribalism that much more apparent on vtubers as compared to twitch streams? Do their fans engage in numberfagging or are we similar to koreaboos with their favourite idol groups?

>>13962894
you mean above normal, right?

>>13962840
>half a hour

>>13962840
Scouting HoloX is enough anon, let her have some fun

>>13962903
IRL streamers aren't part of a company like VTubers

>>13962894
Check holo data retard. She peaked around 18k earlier.

>>13962903
the latter

>>13962858
Nope, It was a solo stream. Marine is in the thumbnail because this stream is prep for their fight with the Wither.

>>13962687
It seems he's no threat for tomorrow. He got stucked at 20k

>>13962903
For vtubers, the tribalism is a carryover from /jp/. The shitposters and falseflagging never left when this board was made, it just moved with the users. Who knows with Twitch streamers, things are more fluid with the irl streamers and the constant roiling drama nonsense.

>>13962810
Shion got 13k when she was singing to 900k. Her kareoke before that 16k and 18.6. She peaked at 17,991 today. You say 20k like that's her usual number.

>>13962575
>t. nijikek

>>13962810
>>13962860
>>13962894
>>13962947
>>13962968

NTA, but ...
I would like to point out that 1 anon is talking about Average, while others are talking about peak
Those are two different things ...

>>13962687
this midget wouldnt even get into top 10 if it counted for today

>>13963061
nice observation NTAnon

>>13963061
anon the FUCKING average in my FUCKING PICTURE is 8k, do I need to etch it into your fucking eyeballs before you understand?

>>13962816
How do we save red kzh?

>>13962840
She already mogged silver boy at the end of both month. She has done enough

>>13962629
>Shion 20k karaoke
Since when?

>>13963061
But Kanata is averaging at 8k right now during this stream
(Not to mention that her current stream is pretty long. Most of her streams with higher average were much shorter - as in, hours shorter)

>>13962903
twitch fanbases don't have too much numberfagging, though in exchange they have constant dramabombs.
Seriously don't go into en indie tubers if you can help it, it's like they go out of their way to give their hot takes on every petty drama that exists on twitter.

>>13963151
It's just one Anon who has selective memory. Happens a lot, which is why it's good to CHECK UR NUMBERS before you doompost.

>>13963105
Not him but I think Kanata gonna do it for a hour or two, the average will drop to about 7,3 thousand tho

>>13962810
>Shion karaoke also hits 20k late night easily too
Nigga no. She is my oshi and i actually watch her. 14k-17k is her usual numba for midnight utawaku

>>13963197
Kek, her fanbase is killing her average.

>>13963197
Sure, and she's already been doing this for more than an hour longer than any of her previous Mario Kart streams. It continuing to drop because people need to go to fucking sleep isn't some sort of indicator of doom.

Tribalfag for twitch streamers is on twitter. Dreamfags seething over the content creator awards is as bad as the schizos here too.

>>13962903
>Is numberfagging tribalism that much more apparent on vtubers as compared to twitch streams?
No. aside from /here/ not many care about numba aside from r/vt saviorfags. I dunno about twitch numberfaggotry but /vt/ schizos are nothing compare to them. They harrassed that tommy kid just cause he interact with streamer they dont like. Yes, the kid's fans themselves drove him into clinical depression

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1466432040962777094

How viral would this make Haachama?

Seems like cunny and koyote split gonza's tourist half between them

The new girls will steal viewers from the already stablished girls.
Is no secret.
Next month you will see an incline in the avergae viewrship but at the cost of low and mid holos declining too.
The new girls will cap others is just the nature of things

>[EN] Laplus: You guys seem like you care more about my sub count than myself

This ... This fucking bra-
IMMA FUCKING SWEAR

>>13963020
>>13963429
Meaning that this board actually works in containing schizos from escaping outside and effect the vtubers themselves? Well, I can understand that vtubers is still a niche within a niche, and the schizos here doesn't go too far far as compared to real koreaboos or a big streamer's fanbase. I'd like it that way, this thread reminds me of Dota vs LoL sometimes that I used to take part of.

>>13963600
Good
One sucking the others dry is the last thing we want

>>13963622
no, it's just that there's not that many people who actually care enough to do anything other than shitpost

Was this thread embarrasing itself about how council were amazing because of their first week numbers too?

Is this the highest CCV ever for a vtuber ASMR?

>People typing in SC money
>La+ thanking them
This fucking brat

If La+ keeps up with this late night zatsudans, she'll probably cement herself as one of the zatsudan king and queen, Toya and Marine.

>>13963749
Yeah. Wait 2 weeks.

>>13963749
Council except Kronii were struggling to get 20k for their first streams after the debut, they were trash from the start

>>13963749
they were doing the same thing with edengumi too, I swear they are just falseflagging so they can grudgepost themselves later.

>>13963874
Isnt this far lower than her ither zatsu?

>>13963605
The only noticeable decline after gen 5 was matsuli....

>>13963749
council had nowhere near the numbers gen 6 is getting

>>13963897
hey at least holoX won't drop down to edengumi numbers

>>13963749
If this thread had existed last year it'd be embarrassing itself about how Myth were amazing because of their first week numbers too

>>13963891
>welcome back

>>13963914
Nah...but lower than mf her Shadowverse stream.

>>13963936
>edengumi numbers
More like, edengumi dropping to nijiEN numbers

>>13963939
i can see the posts now about gen 6 would've been near-identical to what would have been posted about myth if we existed back then

Kuzuha is slacking off recently isn't he..

>>13963939
I think the question is to how low they will drop.
Also are they collabing with themselves soon. I dont feel a lot of unity on this gen. No chat apperances, little interaction with themselves.

shion new outfit


tomorrow (in 45 hours to be exact)

>>13964041
He fell for the concert and music production meme.

I was thinking that, if riku can somehow get nijiEN 3D before holo next year, they might have a chance to actually rival HoloEN in western front.

Shion outfit Saturday, 21 JST

>>13964068
Peko...

>>13964067
Unity doesnt bring numbers

>>13963939
Nah
I was there when numberfags were living with others on /jp/
Only Gura was the number fapping material
The rest were treated as failures.
Sans Ame due Gurame fags flooding the threads on dead hours.

>>13964068
>>13964094
saturday is already won I guess

>>13964081
Are labels that notorious?

>>13964067
>No chat apperances
Watch streams please I'm begging you

>>13964142
You forgot originals god Mori

Chloe's last stream
12% EOP in her chat

>>13964116

>No chat apperances

??? there's been a lot between them. koyori and laplus appeared at iroha stream, laplus on koyori asmr... literally just look at the log for those streams

>>13964067
There are chat appearances but it's mostly Laplus and Lui making the rounds. Also Koyori and Laplus are collabing this weekend. Not much else on the collab front.

>>13964142
Actually
Is just when we moved to /vt/ that the other weren't as trashed as hard like on /jp/.

>>13964197
SEA use English

>>13964094
>>13964068
From NekoShion to KumaShion

>>13964067
>no unity
La+ literally jesus'd herself into midnight for their incline

>>13964250
PandaShion

>>13964116
>Unity doesnt bring numbers
>He says this while talking about Hololive

>searches Kuzuha in /vt/ archive for infos
>99% of them came from this thread or its past iterations
Hi actual male watcher here please stop shitting up the archive with vtubers you don't watch and please neck yourself every single one of you, nijinigger or holobrony or dramafag alike

>>13964183
Y E S
You'll give up a huge portion of the amount of cash you can earn, but in return they'll offer resources and take on the 'risk' of losses. Thing is, if you can be successful without an external label, you should absolutely 100% avoid it.

>>13964195
Mori number fapping was short lived after JP started to shit hard on her for also trying to pander to japanese people.
Then we moved to /vt/

Now that I think about it, which side of EOPs has more vtuber fans? North America or SEA?

>>13964329
I think there was a chart for it

>>13964293
>angry tranny noises

>>13964293
If you actually watched males you wouldn't need to come to vt of all places for info.

>>13964293
>Hi actual male watcher here please stop shitting up the archive with vtubers you don't watch and please neck yourself every single one of you, nijinigger or holobrony or dramafag alike

>>13964283
Or she just nit want to iverlap for her own numbers.

>>13964329
Europe.

>>13963749
Council first week median CCV (excluding debuts and full gen collabs)
>Kronii - 27,046
>Mumei - 23,182
>Fauna - 19,249
>Baelz - 14,600
>Sana - 9,762

HoloX median CCV so far (excluding debuts and full gen collabs, counting Lui's Outlast streams as one stream)
>Chloe - 73,492
>Iroha - 44,744
>Laplus - 37,356
>Koyori - 30,183
>Lui - 24,408

>>13964293
It's Kuzuha, what did you expect? He literally does the same shit every day. His numbers are like the only thing about him worth discussing.

Is there any possible way for NijiEN to get 3D first before HoloEN?

>>13964510
Why do people watch him then?

>>13962427
There's a 2 hour stream plus a number of songs.

>>13964507
EN CCV culling, they'll drop down to around Council levels by next week

>>13964067
Only laplus has made some efforts.
Lui, iroha, chloe look like lone wolfs
No gen collab tough...weird

>>13964569
Well I don think it'll be that fast...im thinking around 3 weeks

>>13964524
maybe after Niji ID and KR get theirs or be prepare to watch nijiniggers having a civil war

>>13964569
I feel lui is going there already.
But i think holox will have an extra week of buff compared to council.

>>13964094
New outfit huh. Just like Bora..

>>13964297
How come some nijis still want to sign up for a label when they've learnt the risk? Don't they have their own recording studio or something? Why pay for additional advertisements/resources?

>>13964094
P-pekora...

>>13964623
Civil war is Nijiniggers' breakfast.

>>13964625
it'll be interesting to see if tourists will stay with Chloe since it seems she's done every buff stream this weak aside from Minecraft

>>13964586
It's better they focus on their own solo growth first...
Remember what happened to council...Yup, they collab way too early and too much before even has the chance to grow their own fanbase

>>13964586
They're playing Mario Party soon.

>>13964094
>hololive
>older gen bitch still under 1m subs
What the fuck happen to that company, nijinigger level

>>13964636
nah i don´t think she gona left before holofest3.

>>13964658
It takes way more effort and work to make songs yourself and is a lot riskier.
Does Nijisanji pay for some of original song creation like Hololive does now?

>>13964658
Because it's convenient.

What are the chances that Niji gets elden ring perms first and get first dibs on the game before Holo? Would Nijis incline on February spamming the game, even more so if they implement similar co-op like Genshin into the game?

>>13964085
Might not be a good idea just because of how much internal drama it might cause if they go about it by jumping the line. If NijiEn exploded the same way that myth did then they might've gotten away with it since the other livers would've accepted it as giving way to the new stars of the company. But with the numbers that NijiEn has, I doubt anyone, even the bottom tiers, would budge.

>>13964775
They already have Fromsoft permissions

>>13964693
She can still try anew things. But i feel she will drop to a confortable 10k avergae.
Her undertale stream might be atest of skill in game in geberak.

>>13964738
they don't even pay for their new outfits

>>13964850
is not full blanket

>>13964869
obviously, buffs will still be buffs even after the first time but she seems to have ticked off some big ones as shes done
singing
horror
undertale
english learning
english singing
so i am curious what a normal week's numbers will look like. i think it will be more than 10k though

>>13964510
Or rather you niggers seem to seethe a lot to someone who has so few fans who actually followed him in 4chan. Literally the only Kuzuha numberfagging goes in here or in bait threads. And it's fucking everywhere in the archives because you retards can't stop seething at your own falseflags.
Well regardless I'm just here to tell numberfaggots to kill themselves so I already said what's needed to be said. I'm out, kill yourselves.

>>13964658
>>13964738
People need to understand that being a good singer is like 5% of what it takes to release an album. You need to write lyrics, compose musice, produce tracks, mix them, create art for albums, promos, Mvs, etc, then manage advertisement, production, and distribution. That is a shitload of stuff that some random autistic girl who enjoys singing probably knows very little about. One reason Mori is so valuable is she was toiling away making albums for years and has the skills and experience to make originals at a terrific pace.

Labels will do all that for you. They'll also take most of the money. There's a reason every successful artist seems to end up making their own label. It's not just vanity. They want the cuts.

>13965015
Thanks for the seething and coping, tranny.

>>13965077
and the rights

>13965015
Is this some new form of kuzunigger seethe ?

La+ getting to 31k on a guerrilla zatsudan past midnight on a workday is a really good showing

>>13964293
uh... keep seething, i guess?

>>13964293
>male

>>13961875
Nope. It's rather obvious because marine schizo will point to the noel hating posts as evidence that Ichimin are the worst fanbase.

>>13965138
Yeah didn't want to get into it since it gets complicated af but rights and money go hand in hand. I honestly don't know how things work for Hololive. Mori and Ina have enough experience I assume they had carveouts, but really curious how rights and cuts work for Mori performing as a character owned by Cover. Same for Ina's work credited to "Ina".

so hows today tally? did chloe win the second day in a row?

>>13965230
Girls have said before that they get the majority share for their songs and merch from what I remember.
Cover owns the song though.

>>13964209
Laplus dropped a W in Lui's chat as she was screaming too

>>13965351
>Cover owns the song though.
Not necessarily. I can't remember who said it but one of the JP girls was talking about trying to convince Cover to buy her song and give it greater distribution

>>13965623
Polka

>>13965623
That was Polka with her first song.
Don’t know what ever happened with that.

>>13961736
what are you talking about?
all have been found

>>13965348
yeah, 74k for horror game

>>13963046
>t. holobrony

>>13965633
>>13965657
Thanks for the reminder

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>74,566: Chloe (Hololive)
>54,059: Iroha (Hololive)
>37,003: Noel (Hololive)
>36,015: Pekora (Hololive)
>30,367: Subaru (Hololive)
>29,428: Lui (Hololive)
>26,150: Hayato Kagami
>24,428: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,960: Lui (Hololive)
>22,996: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,792: Lui (Hololive)
>18,165: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,025: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,834: Gatchaman (Indie)
>16,155: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,611: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,419: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>12,181: Ina (Hololive)
>11,826: Ollie (Hololive)
>10,230: Botan (Hololive)

>>13965864
Do you have the final tally of november?

>>13965864
>>54,059: Iroha (Hololive)
wow I didn't expect Samurai to get 50k with a karaoke even with debut buff

>>13965893
do your reps maybe? it should be 4-5 threads back.

>>13965864
There should be this Chloe stream on the list as well right ?
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/tyNvojO4dAo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10fT6SneMI

finally

>>13966149
at least one of them is a pokeautist, im glad

>>13966140
Yes. This should be on the list, it was at 1am JST.

So, to give some closure to >>13961073 and the ensuing discussion, here is the
>last 30 days rolling median of peak CCV
chart for NijiEN

Here are the findings
>Selen: inclined. Holding around 2.6k in the past few months
>Pomu: reclined. Was already reclining from around 2100 when Mado started collecting data, reach as low as 1.6k then bounced back a little
>Finana: stable. Reached a low point in early November and bounced back
>Elira: massive incline.
>Rosemi. Stable around 1.3k
>Petra:. Stable around 1.1k, had a slight incline mid October but didn't hold
>Nina: Stable just about under 1k after losing the "debut buff"
>Enna: bouncing back to around 1.3k after dipping below 1k in most of November
>Millie: reclining to under 1k
>Reimu: reclining to around 750

All in all
>Selen and Elira are healthy
>Finana, Rosemi, Petra and Nina are stable but on a low point
>Enna is stabilizing, also on a low point
>Pomu, Millie and Reimu are reclining

>>13966140
>>13966266
>Yes. This should be on the list, it was at 1am JST.
DANG IT!

Gotta remake it to include that one that, thanks for pointing it out

>>13966281
Petra and Finana clearly get higher numbers only from their boost streams (piano streams for Petra and Honkai/Genshin for Finana)

>>13966281
Thanks anon.
Well, I'm curious how wave 4 will affect their numbers and SC. I personally don't think SCs will take too big of a hit, but I'm also open to the suggestion that, being holo-lite, they've opened themselves up to the potential that their gachis may be apprehensive to constant male collabs.
Personally, I don't think an all male wave will have any all-stars and they'll (at best) add ~1k-2k CCV per male on average once debut buffs wear out. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong though.

race to holox first 1mil views cover:
- koyo - 845k - 4 says
- lui - 802k - 4 days
- lap - 766k - 1 day

>>13966598
>Honkai/Genshin for Finana
oh and collabs

>>13965864
Holo 8 - 2 Niji
A clean swipe of top 5, as expected of the new and shiny HoloX
Kuzuha saved Niji from a top 10 swipe tho, bless the man

>>13966629
There's also the holox ochame kinou cover

>>13966629
ez

>>13966662

>Kuzuha saved Niji from a top 10 swipe tho, bless the man

Morelike Kagami did it

>>13966696
oh thats right, that one is 844k in 2 days

>>13965864
>>13965893
>>13965942
>>13966140
>>13966662
* REAL FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>74,566: Chloe (Hololive)
>54,059: Iroha (Hololive)
>37,003: Noel (Hololive)
>36,015: Pekora (Hololive)
>35,596: Chloe (Hololive)
>30,367: Subaru (Hololive)
>29,428: Lui (Hololive)
>26,150: Hayato Kagami
>24,428: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,960: Lui (Hololive)
>22,996: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,792: Lui (Hololive)
>18,165: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,025: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,834: Gatchaman (Indie)
>16,155: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,611: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,419: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>12,181: Ina (Hololive)
>11,826: Ollie (Hololive)
>10,230: Botan (Hololive)

Ignore the other one, it was missing a Chloe stream

>>13966808
moomer...on list...nice

Here is the same analysis as >>13966281 but for the top shelf of NIjisanji JP.
The main takes should be

>Kuzuha and Ibrahim reclining
>Toya streaming too much and wearing out his "rarity" buff
>Lize massively inclining
>Mito reversing her recline
Everybody else seems more or less stable

>>13966629
Although Lui's and Koyori's covers initial speed match Suisei's phony, it fallen off huh.

>>13965864
20k isn't enough to get in the top 10 anymore, what the fuck?

>>13967351
Here is the same chart without Kuzuha and Toya for the others be more visible

>>13967461
Lui's "stream will end if I scream" took three positions

>>13966281
So no one declined. Holobrony shitposters btfo.

>>13967351
While these are interesting I feel like a month is too short to make any real inferences. A short break, playing a debuff game for a bit vs a buff game can create false impressions easily.

>>13967351
Thanks anon, not so many people will appreciate it but it’s interesting to see something new.

>>13967514
So Pomu is no one. Got it.

>>13967351
Interesting chart, thanks anon for that. Do you have one for holoen?

>>13967526
It's the median of 30 days worth of streams. One stream or even a week of streams won't make this much of a difference.

>in a few hours megumin will do a 1 hour zatsu stream and funnel into samurai's RFA stream.
incoming lui and koyori btfo?

>>13967587
>Do you have one for holoen?
I'll likely make it soon but this particular chart and analysis was geared up using Mado (as Niji needs some love too) so I have to convert the queries to my Holostats dataset.
May take a few days

>>13967634
Alright, thank you anon, you're the best.

>>13967583
I'm pretty sure she averaged lower in August than November. That chart only goes back to September. 150 viewers difference is nothing. HoloEN members go up and down with bigger variances all the time.

>>13967691
>That chart only goes back to September.
No it does not, the first interval covers from Sep 01 minus 30 days, meaning all the way back to August 02

>>13967730
>2021-09-01
That's as far back as it goes. Not seeing 08 there.

https://youtu.be/ygL19FZGtcc
Miyabi doing Endwalker later today so I expect some holos to take time off (Ina) or start the Endwalker arc on the coming days.

>>13967806
Anon… you should learn what a moving median means.

>>13967824
Ina is a professional. I expect her to just not do longer streams for the next bit, and she's probably cleared her backlog for art stuff .

>>13967833
Well it's your fault for making it unclear if that 2088 number is supposed to be the August average. But I'm pretty sure I've seen Pomu averaging lower than November before. Can't find the chart right now.

>>13967824
Iroha will.

>>13968069
*After she finishes Jump King because her manager wants to make sure she doesn't skimp out on streaming to play Endwalker

>>13967824
yea youll have ina (just finished pokemon) and iroha (big ff14 fan) for sure, at least

>>13968143
Based manager, someone put her in charge of the council.

>>13968231
It's Nene's manager that has been transfered, now she is going to work the next girl into a hiatus.

>>13967936
>Well it's your fault for making it unclear if that 2088 number is supposed to be the August average
Do you even know what "LAST THIRTY DAYS MOVING AVERAGE" mean? You seem to be unqualified to talk about numbers if you can't grasp even this basic concept.
Anyway, here is something to satisfy you then: Here is Pomu all streams on Mado record.

She clearly took a tumble after her hiatus and in October and November she only had 15 streams over 2k, down from 20 in July 17 to September 30.
Here they are (sorted by CCV)

>【POMU TAKES A SHOWER】time to be un-stinky!
>【SUPER MARIO 64 #03】finsh!!!!
>【OUTLAST II with Finana ! #3】LETS FINISH THIS
>【THE RADIO STATION 深夜放送】HELP ME @Millie Parfait
>【FAIRY-OKE KARAOKE】NERVOUS AAAAaaa
>【MINECRAFT WITH ENNA AND MILLIE!!!!!!!】WITH ENNA AND MILLIE!!!!!!!!!
>【OUTLAST II with Finana !】YEEEEHAW
>【CRAB GAME】lets get this KUUKEEKUUKEE
>【OTAKU COLLECTION REVIEW】show me what you got!!
>【SUPER MARIO 64】First time playing!!
>【HARDCORE MINECRAFT】If I don't find diamond in 30 mins I die
>【LIVESTREAM: ESCAPE FROM HOTEL IZANAMI】Scariest game of 2021!!!
>【MINECRAFT】what the f*#$* happened in the world server
>【MINECRAFT HARDCORE】survive
>【DEVOUR】with Elira Finana and Rosemi!!

>>13966809
La+ Shadowverse stream got lost in the limbo because it started 30 seconds before midnight lol
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/HCm5HcEovzg

>>13968434
Meant to 13966808

>>13968434
You've linked the wrong post btw

>>13968434
It was counted for the tally of Dec 1st
>>13909934

>>13968409
>down from 20 in July 17 to September 30.
I mean down from 20 in July 17 to August 31

>HoloX encroaching on HoloEN territory
Watch out, if these morning streams continue HoloEN will run into a roadblock