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She's so offensively fake and disingenuous that it nearly makes me ill watching her.

>> No.13916378
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>>13916159
I am certain that Sakamata Chloe isn't human.

Like seriously, a sea predator holo, and of all things, an orca, provaking the gura killer meme?
With looks that are like Noel+Nene+Ayame, a near perfect mix of cute, funny and sex?
Her characterization as a janny who does it for free, a core 4chan meme not well known outside of it, attracting the non-normfags to her pre-debut making sure gets 100% of the EOP audience?
With a unique mask gimmick that generated hype just from her own fucking face?
And the fact such a small thing as her potentially not using it caused huge amounts of "discussion" that just made her rent free on our minds?
Also said mask she used to it's full potential by utilizing it for her different singing voices thereby creating tension and hype between songs and making you unable to leave for fear of missing out your preferred version of her?
And speaking of the karaoke, did you see how she was able to efficiently do a 98k live viewers karaoke just from 4 fucking holocore songs?
How perfectly she spaced the time between them to market her crybaby shtick and her zatsuden skills (her zatsuden stream that just ended a WHILE ago btw), whilst keep making EOPs hyped for her eigo unarchived karaoke in the end there?
Not to mention appeasing unityfags by telling her 98k viewers to watch Aqua's birthday stream?
Even her fucking "doxx" just adds to her cuteness.
Her mention of strategy games to attract hoomans and hopium fags!
Her bad hand writing!
Her eigo music tastes fit for SEAniggers!
Her "mistake" when she named her art tag orcart, and then just changed it to something even more blatantly lewd!
Everything about her from her design, her personality, her gimmick... All the little touches she does and add... it's all inhumanly perfect.

To call her "real" is quite delusional... but calling her fake? With those nuances and details? That's being a little disingenuous. Artificial is the better word.
Artificial perfection.
Artificial intelligence.
Sakamata Chloe is an AI that cover hooked into the internet that got sentient to become the perfect chuuba. Like her predecessors, alphazero and alphago, she'll beat us of flesh and bone in our own games. She's running DeepL simulations of /hlg/ and /hlgg/ to maximize her own hype RIGHT NOW.
She's the singularity that will bring us to utopia... ruled by her iron fist of ones and zeros.
Oga was right to warn us, but oh, if only he knew how useless it was to stop her!

I fear for humanity.
Long live Sakamata Chloe!

>> No.13916384

Definitely feels like most of this gen is in it for the money.

>> No.13916411

meanwhile in bizarro /vt/...

>> No.13916453

>>13916159
I like her but yeah
She's gonna be attracting the most hate in her gen

>> No.13916485

>>13916159
2view hands typed this post

>> No.13916507

>>13916378
why cant she speak fluent english then?

>> No.13916528

I feel like it’s the opposite. She quite literally admitted in her first stream that she was a gold digging whore. Many things could be said about her but I don’t think disingenuous is one of them.

>> No.13916545

>>13916453
You mean by schizos on image boards?

>>13916507
Engrish and trying to learn the language is more endearing for EOPs.

>> No.13916725

>>13916384
It* definitely.....gen are* in it...

>> No.13916753

>>13916159
>it nearly makes me ill watching her.
Don’t watch her then? Take the hag pill and watch Lui.

>> No.13916818

At least some of her senpai seem to be wary of her. Wont stop EOPs who fall for her cute Engrish from showering her with money though.

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>>13916159
You don't watch her; in fact, you don't watch anyone, so have a pity (You) because I'm feeling generous today.

>> No.13916854

>>13916384
Yeah, them and every other gen, you fucking retard.

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>>13916818
earlier lamy twitted this while the orca was streaming

>> No.13916913

>>13916725
ESLs correcting perfectly normal English with textbook rules will never not be funny.

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13916979

Remember guys
Hololive does it, it’s good.
VShojo does it, it’s bad.

>> No.13917035

>>13916821
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

>> No.13917056

>>13916896
It's funny how this would usually be a case of the intent and tone being completely distorted by translation, but in this case it might just have managed to translate the message written between the lines.

>> No.13917154

>>13916545
>Engrish and trying to learn the language is more endearing for EOPs.
See also Haachama's English skill deterioration.

>> No.13917219

>>13916159
Can you fault a succubus for doing well at her job?

>> No.13917242

>>13916979
You are making me pepehands with your twitch whores, my little pogchamp. But I will press f for you because I feel sorry for your drama.

>> No.13917287

>>13916979
I'm glad you understand.

>> No.13917382

>>13917242
So sad for you, must be hard foryou to cope while your new oshi is making everyone uncomfortable with her forced lewd talk and fake cuteness.

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>>13917382
You literally just described every vwhores member stupid bitch.

>> No.13917705

>>13916854
No, every gen from gen 5 and prior were in it for the soul

>> No.13917707

>>13916159
Hololive has become the place where vtubers go to play a character and pander to gachikois, this should be expected. There's a reason why the more honest Holos like Kiara and Ollie are also the most controversial.

>> No.13918011

>>13917707
nobody can outdo coco, so going the other way makes sense

>> No.13918026

>>13916159
It's fine, it's common between newbies in hololive to try to put up a play. Hopefully she'll chill a bit soon.

>> No.13918074

>>13916979
im glad you understand

>> No.13918091

>>13916384
get a job you fucking neet, which retard working in a company but dont want money?

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>> No.13918747

>>13916159
Just like fubuki and ayame.

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>>13916159
OP here, I meant to post this pic, sorry

>> No.13918946

>>13918011
Coco pandered too, just in her own way

>> No.13919324 [DELETED] 

>>13916159
she's the kiara of holoJP

>> No.13919385

>>13916979
im glad you understan

>> No.13919679

>>13918747
>>13918927
newfags

>> No.13920241

>>13918091
Well, there are at least two holos who aren't in it for money. They're outliers though.

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>>13916979
No. You don't understand

It's ALL good.

>> No.13920490

>>13916159
>>13916378
>>13916384
Ogey

>> No.13920795

>>13916384
We'll see how they interact with everyone else

>> No.13920854

>>13920241
Ina and who else?

>> No.13920859

>>13916159
I said the same thing about Mumei.

>> No.13920862

>>13920854
ayame

>> No.13920890

>>13917705
This and other lies people tell themselves.

>> No.13920909

Why are you watching someone you don't like and spending your time thinking about her? Go to your local gym

>> No.13920983

>>13920859
Makes more sense with mumei. A normie who lucked out

>> No.13921083

>>13917056
No she was just asking if everyone was asleep already and goodnight.

>> No.13921211

Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that Sakamata Chloe doesn't know what she's doing. She knows exactly what she's doing.

>> No.13921237

>When the mask looks better than the actual face.
One of the biggest mistakes in vtubing history. Well, at least they didn't tease it for months to reveal how terrible it was like Tali from Mass Effect. I'm keeping my money.

>> No.13921252

>>13921211
die rubiobot

>> No.13921624

>>13916979
What's a fan who isn't hypocritical in favour of their favourites?

>> No.13921625
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13921625

>JOPs kill Aloe
>Gen 6 is literally filled with all the lies they spread about her
>They could have had a cute menehera who loved hololive and would work herself into a grave in order to make sure she earned her place.
>Unicorns must now seethe, Niconiggers must live in fear as Hololive creates the 2nd Vtuber boom, Nijis live in terror of Covers shadow
Don't call it a grave. It's the future you choose for yourselves when you denied SEX!

>> No.13921744

>>13916896
She's shaking rn

>> No.13921861

>>13916896
Literally because of a superchat schizo who told her that he was abandoning her

>> No.13921967

>2 dedicated anti threads for Chloe
She's going to be big

>> No.13922021

>>13916159
The homofags really can't stop seething after HoloX curbstopped their entire branch

>> No.13922048

>>13921083
Good job failing to understand what between the lines means.

>> No.13922080

>>13920854
Polka, Noel and probably Botan.

>> No.13922132

>>13921967
She's a whale in Asia. Of course she will have people coming after her.

>> No.13922133

>>13916159
>>13916378
>>13916384
>>13916528
>>13917707
ogey schizo(s).
>>13918011
>ex-tatsus still humping the delusion of coco being particularly special when even they barely cared untill the chinkout
>>13921625
>JOPs
well yes I assume that kusodad doesn't speak english. now stop huffing rrats, you fucking retard, and do your goddamned reps.

>> No.13922158

>>13921967
If having several simultaneous anti threads were a sign of having a bright future, Kiara would be the biggest vtuber in the world today.

>> No.13922168

>>13916507
Look at HoloENs viewer counts and you have your answer

>> No.13922178

>>13922158
Anon, she literally is one of the biggest Vtubers in the world.

>> No.13922236

>>13916159
Someone please explain I can't into moonspeak because I'm retarded
Where did this "she's fake" shit coming from? Did she say something in her streams? Is it like Kronii who will do and say everything for SC?

>> No.13922239

I'm out of the loop, why does she get so many antis?

>> No.13922240

>>13916979
I'm just glad you understand

>> No.13922288

>>13922178
Don't act obtuse, we're obviously talking in terms of holo as the standard here, not the endless sea of 2views.

>> No.13923751

>>13921237
She switches around between both (at least so far) so it's not so bad. I just like it on or off either way.

It's a really handy thing to have for streaming, like if she is trying to get serious in a game or something she can put the mask on to be more of a chuuni tryhard about something.

>> No.13924006

>>13916384
I mean, she flat out stated in her debut she wanted money to move out of her parents house so..... Not to mention keeps begging for subs.

>> No.13924045

Everything about her is calculated for sure but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing

The way I see her is that she is like Noel if Noel wasn't filthy rich before getting to Hololive
Aka she is in it for the money and she uses everything at her disposal
The way she played with expectation with her introductions, the way she baited for her singing stream at the end of that introduction by creating a gap between a cute singing voice and a deep voice for a few seconds
The way she made sure the viewers knew she wanted money but played around it to not sound like a money grubbing machine
I bet she is the one who asked for a mask too.

It's pretty masterful

Now I don't think she will be the new pekora or marine, she isn't the type to get tons of views but she will probably reach Lamy level down the line and maybe even Rushia

>> No.13924097

>>13922080
If we are including Noel, Mel would also be in there for a similar reason. Lamy is supposedly rich already.

>> No.13924115

>>13922133
KusoDad isn't the one still going into her fanbox just to harass her.

>> No.13924142

>>13917707
Kiara is not even close to being an honest chuuba, and neither is Ollie. Get your head out of your ass.

>> No.13924234

>>13924097
Didn't Lamy spend the equiv of about 10k USD on her streaming setup (soundproofing etc) -before- her debut? Considering that and her taste for expensive sake yeah she's from a rich family and this basically kind of always-known in essence. Nips gosling hard for her anyway however because she is really really personable, complete zatsudan beast, there is nobody really quite like her in EN except maybe Kiara who also likes to zatsu a lot - only imagine someone without any of Kiara's filtering quirks doing that.

>> No.13924390

>>13916384
>He thinks they're not all in it for the money

>> No.13924648

>>13920854
Isn’t Reine just independently wealthy already before joining?

>> No.13924749

I mean they were all vtubers at some capacity before joining Hololive so clearly they started out of enjoyment. Might as well make some money while doing it.

>> No.13925743

>>13924749
This. She streamed for 3 years as an indie.

>> No.13925950

If fakeness bothers you, look for a real woman, anon.

>> No.13926008

>>13925950
I'm already watching kson

>> No.13926015

>>13916159
t. salty she's better than almost every other holo in every aspect

>> No.13926162

>>13925950
No way, my totally genuine Holosanji™ vtuber girlfriend is always like this and has no reason to lie to me, her streaming personality is just how she acts in real life. She's so perfect bros.

>> No.13926214

>>13925950
kek

>> No.13926530

>>13924234
>spend
Borrowed from her father and paid him back.
Lamy is very proper about returning favours, she even held multiple streams asking chat the best way to pay him back for the work he does, she respects money, she repeatedly speaks of her dislike for blank akasupas since she wants people to get something from it at least (and not in the faux crying bait manner).

>> No.13926619

>>13922236
Just people being salty that she's the most popular as well as fallout from the "I'm leaving you for Chloe" superchat Lamy got

>> No.13926681

Haven't been paying attention. Why are people mad about her? Is it because she's on pace to pass the pedobait?

>> No.13926721

>Someone's getting popular? This won't do at all! No no no I must be CONTRARIAAAAAAANNNNN

>> No.13926819

>>13924234
>Nips gosling hard for her anyway however because she is really really personable, complete zatsudan beast
Same as Rushia, they at the very least are incredibly good at acting like they care about their gachikoi, so it keeps them coming back for more.

>> No.13927046

>>13926681
People basically think it’s a foregone conclusion she’s going to be drowning in superchats, and people here seethe whenever someone is more successful then their literal who of an oshi.

>> No.13927095

i don't get it, she's only been streaming three days and anyone who's not retarded or completely new to vtubers knows that in a few months she'll have settled in and her persona will be vastly different. maybe OP is only pretending to be retarded

>> No.13927184

>>13917705
Based
>captcha SSSJ0
Proof

>> No.13927231

>>13927095
I'm hoping she manages to keep the chuuni vibes.

>> No.13927575

>>13916979
Glad you understand Vshojo bro

>> No.13930901

>>13925950
Vast majority of real women are incredibly fake too. The only way a woman will be honest with you is if you've been married to her for many years, if you're lucky.

>> No.13933126

>>13924648
The one complete rrat I see thrown around is Reine is powerful/well off enough to have people disappeared.

>> No.13933362

She used to do the two voice thing on her old channel too. She had her cute singing voice and her sultry singing voice.

>> No.13934354

>>13916159
even ouga took a huge risk just to warn everyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLPpCP_Uths
Heed his advice brothers, she's not to be trusted.

>> No.13934522

>>13916979
Glad you understand

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>>13916159
Shut the hell up Oga, GETTTTT FILTERRRRRRED

>> No.13934823

>>13916979
Yes, unironically.

>> No.13934941

>>13916979
I was a literal hobo when I threw money at Mowtendoo 10 years ago

Dude doesn't give me the time of day anymore, so that resentment carries over to Vshojo so I don't mind this sentiment

>> No.13935005

>>13916159
don't care didn't ask
plus your oshi got mogged

>> No.13935019

>>13916159
You don't understand her retarded larper

>> No.13935903

>>13935005
cared enough to reply

>> No.13935948

>>13926819
They care for their viewers, although not in a schizo way but in a healthy way.

>> No.13937135

>>13934941
Does mowtendoo even actually do anything anymore? You'd think with his editing skills he'd make cool videos or something at least.

>> No.13937892

>>13916159
I got Ayame vibes from her.

>> No.13938685

>>13937892
Ayame wouldn't spend 3 months studying English, way too much effort

>> No.13938880

>>13937892
you have never watched ayame

>> No.13939170

>>13937892
Because they're both whores? One loves cock and the other wants to get spanked by girls though.

>> No.13939327

>>13916384
who fucking becomes a corpo vtuber for any other reason than money? get a life schizo.

>> No.13939394

>>13938880
Well no shit, if she ever streamed I might would have.

>> No.13940631

>>13916378
What the actual fuck.I believe

>> No.13943957

>>13939327
>>13924390
because they also want to entertain people; Anon is suggesting she only cares about the money.

>> No.13944922

>>13916378
orca heil

>> No.13944967

>>13916159
>t.Ayame

>> No.13945011

im having sex with chloe right now

>> No.13945528

>>13924045
Pekora and Marine actually care and were there before Hololive exploded. This bitch is only in it for the money, just like EN2.

>> No.13945598

>>13916159
This must be your first jp chuuba huh?

>> No.13946417

If she only cares about numbers and money how come she hasn't done a 300k or 400k celebration stream yet? Kiara had one in her first week

>> No.13947069

>>13945011
based

>> No.13947634

>>13945528
>Pekora and Marine actually care and were there before Hololive exploded.
Wrong and wrong.

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>>13924045
Hol up
Yes, she has good planning and she is ambitious, those are good traits to have but that's not enough to be on the level of Lamy or Rushia or even Ayame, begging for money is no enough (I know is not begging and it's just a set up, problem is no one of the mentioned before have to ask for money), the Orca needs to master the Succ tree of skill before attempting to reach their level

>> No.13947730

>>13925950
Rumao

>> No.13947823

>>13917707
> has become

when has it not? You have had traces of it since the beginning.

>Aqua pretending she likes sushi
>Haato pretending to be tsundere and pretending to like kusoge
>Matsuri pretending to be single

>> No.13947916

>>13916528
Disingenuous because she baited us with the mask only to drop it instantly, she's dead to me

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A vtuber doing puppy eyes to get views, subs and SCs? Impossible! It has never happened before in the history of vtubing!

Anyways Chloe feet. They're very cute

>> No.13948122

Im so fucking tired of vtubers im done cya fuckers im set free

>> No.13948161

>>13921625
This manotomo understands.
I'm still on heavy copium that when one of gen6 becomes big they will bring Aloe back.

>> No.13948286

This fake bitch is soon to be the most subbed of her Gen and there's nothing you can do to stop it

>> No.13948309

Get into the biggest vtuber company, be prepared, know how to lure the viewers because that is ultimately what this gig is all about, vt seethes that she is some type of a calculated bitch.
EN Council on the other hand just kinda "showed up" with, what looked like little to no preparation, that is still showing desu (but give them a few months pwease). Vt seethes again because "why did you even apply if you dont wanna try". Some people from here should be lined up and shot in the dick.

>> No.13948706

>>13916159
I like Chloe the least from her gen, but at least she might give competition to lazy Ayame by sucking up her fans.

>> No.13948744

>>13948309
literally all hololive talent is shit on about being calculated scum as a blanket con, yet only a few are shit on cause they're lazy and deserve the backlash, I wonder why hmmmmmm???????
However the only person who should be shot are pussy fencesitters who try to play both sides

>> No.13949424

Fakery is the most authentic form of expression because it demonstrates you put thought and will behind your actions. It’s no coincidence that people that talk about being “genuine” all the time are completely insufferable, self-absorbed fools. The real question is if she’s entertaining.

>> No.13949609

>>13926819
Rushia genuinely has a parasocial relationship with her chat, i once left a comment on her video that she liked seconds after and it was 4AM for her

>> No.13949710

>>13916384
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOW DARE THEY WORK IN A JOB FOR MONEY? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.13949961

>>13933126
Her parentz are the ones who are well off, her mom treats her like an accessory

>> No.13950099

>>13921625
>Gen 6 is filled with the lies they spread about her
elaborate?

>> No.13950148

>>13921625
Aloe was a whore get over it.

>> No.13950172

>>13933126
Reine could buy Cover in a minute.

>> No.13950272

>>13916384
at least they work for it instead of being lazy. and it's not like they blatantly disrespect their fans by calling them piggybanks.

>> No.13951189

>>13939394
Plenty of archives, faggot. You don’t actually care to watch her you just want to be cool and make the funny joke about how she never streams. Based off of Chloe’s early streams her personality isn’t at all like Ayame’s.

>> No.13951305

>>13926681
Faggots here are seething and suddenly hate her now because she is obviously going to be popular and everyone thinks she’s cute.

>> No.13951359

>>13916378
You're a total schizo but I believe you

>> No.13951455

>>13916384
everyone besides fubuki
maybe one or two of the music ones for the clout of not being a literal who peddling their songs to 10 people

>> No.13951505

>>13947634
He's right tho

>> No.13951609

>>13922236
Well ignoring all the weird rrats flying around the supporting argument of Chole being fake on stream is probably best supported by Iroha during her debut stream. Iroha described her as someone stoic who you can always rely on, have an impressive sense of when to play the straight man, and a fast thinker. A pretty stark contrast on how she acted during her debut stream and the singing stream.
Either Iroha is a fat liar here, or Chloe is indeed fake.
No idea whether this will be relevant, but if you pry on her past life then you could probably understand why some people are leaning onto her being a fake as well.

>> No.13951678

>>13951609
Find me a single chuuba that doesn't act strange during their debut. Remember ame's debut? Nene's? That's such a nothing burger.

>> No.13951844

>>13921211
ogay

>> No.13951957

>>13951678
Depending on how you define 'strange', I might be able to find you some since there won't be any fear of goalpost moving. I do agree on the point that trying to establish them being fake or genuine only based on one or two streams they've done after debut is indeed kind of pointless. Most of the time whether someone is fake or not can be seen clearer from their interaction with others.
Personally I still lean on her being fake though, since she already had 3 years of experience in this industry from her past life. She definitely knows what sells and what doesn't.

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>>13925950
>if fakeness bothers you
>look for a real woman
roru rumao

>> No.13952205

>>13916384
>All those replies that are okay with HL losing its soul
What the fuck went wrong?

>> No.13952233

>>13951678
Remember when Haachama was a regular ol’ tsundere?

>> No.13952239

>>13916159
Those armpits tho

>> No.13952240

>>13952205
That started with EN though

>> No.13952304

>>13952205
Council destroyed whatever soul was left

>> No.13953055

People here don't even understand Japanese but claim Sakamata is fake because
>she can sing in different voices, people think her ikebo is real and her usual voice is fake
>she always cries yadaa yadaa
>the other girls describe her as a reliable girl yet she is PON (clumsy) in her streams and over-sleeps
>she is cute and pure but also ero sometimes
>she was masked and took off that mask making her two-faced
>she said something about liking (you) and money
I think all of the above mentioned things make her more entertaining and there are other holos who do each 'fake' thing about Sakamata to a much bigger extend. People here are dumb enough to think that the girls don't need to try to be entertaining during their streams, they just magically are entertaining. The same people probably think streaming is easy because you just need to play some vidya.

On the other hand people here think Kazama is boring because she is just plain. Or Roboco... Do people here even remember her?

People here have double standards whenever they feel like it. Noels big boob ASMR are fine she is no e-slut. Anemori Luna is not doing a fake voice, Twappi speaking like a retard while singing like an angel is good, Watame being thirsty for armpits is also funny but if Sakamata wants to get spanked by Kazama, whoa stop right there fake slut.
I like all of the girls I mentioned above. And most of the things are just over simplified.
Sakamata needs money to move to a different apartment because her walls are paperthin, her neighbour banged against the wall because her watching Laplus' stream was too loud.

I hate this board. The less EOP watching her the better.

>> No.13954283

>>13947634
seethe and cope faggot

>> No.13954860

>>13916821
>have a pity
ESL bitch

>> No.13954907

>>13953055
Well all your points are definitely valid, save for the last one.
>Sakamata needs money to move to a different apartment because her walls are paperthin, her neighbour banged against the wall because her watching Laplus' stream was too loud.
FYI, she made roughly 1.6 million yen in superchat on her last 2 days in her past life. Considering she was an indie, the only cut she will get is the usual Youtube cut that many speculated to be 30%, so she made around 1.12 million yen at the end of August.

She debuted as Chloe at the end of November, so 3 months between her past work and current one. So the question is, where the hell did those 1.12 million yen disappear to? There is a tweet evidence of herself around December 2020 saying that she moved somewhere and lived there for 3 months, then moved somewhere as the internet was shit, lived for a week, then moving out again because of paperthin wall. Then on September 2021 she apparently moved somewhere else again, this time complaining about internet again. Keep in mind that her past life stopped her activity at the end of August 2021.

From the timeline above let's assume that the 1.12 million yen was probably used for the moving on September 2021. Now here comes the interesting part, did she really move into another problematic apartment again by sheer bad luck?
Optimistic people will say she's got bad luck, some not will maybe say she's shit at renting room, while another group will think that 'moving to different apartment' is just her modus operandi of collecting money, and the reality that she's been doing alright streaming from somewhere else soundproof like how other streamers are. Remember, she claimed of moving apartment for at least thrice, and now she's talking about wanting to move again. Reminds of Ayame and her never-ending moving joke around here. Of course we will never know the truth unless that said neighbor starts banging the wall again while she's streaming and the viewers can clearly hear them malding. If they can ascertain that she's being loud, then the reverse should also hold true.

Overall, I do think that everything you said until that sentence rings true. At the end of the day they're entertainer, and if they themselves decided that they need to don a certain persona to do their job, then so be it. Cheers.

>> No.13954953

>>13916159
That's why you'll never be a successful businessman or content creator, OP. You're too sensitive.

>> No.13955046

dont care got my witch back

>> No.13955168

>>13916159
all japs are fake you don't know any better because language barrier

>> No.13955201

>>13916159
Cool, guess I’ll watch her now. Thanks.

>> No.13955205 [DELETED] 

>>13916159
Not as nearly as Pekora, so she'll be fine.

>> No.13955816

>>13954907
I did not expect such a nice reply. I was also wondering about this but as you said, I think she moved out of her parents house into the city. I just got to know her PL so I am just assuming here.
1.12mio sounds like a lot of money, but when I moved to my new apartment I spent more than that. A typical two room apartment is 200.000 JPY per month in Tokyo area, so 1mio is 5 months of rent only.
Besides her graduation I don't think she made enough to sustain herself.
But well she also said that no matter how much money she has it is never enough. So it is part of her persona.
I will continue to enjoy her streams anyway because to be honest, I don't care if they earn more money. I have enough money for myself too.

>> No.13955993

>Vtubers are (mostly) girls that put on a act behind an avatar
>OMG WHY ARE THEY SO FAKE?!

Its called acting you shit eating pickle kisser

>> No.13956210

>>13916159
maybe but that choker though

>> No.13956368

>>13926015
I'm new here, what does "t." stands for?

>> No.13956420

>>13956368
that person's retarded thats not even how you use t.

>> No.13956810

>>13916378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJUbMahy_Ac
You forgot that Gura got conveniently "sick" when an Orca appeared. This is some deep AI.

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>> No.13957446

Can someone explain what exactly is especially cute about her? In a vacuum without the eye reveal hype generated by having a mask as the default, she’s just got your average vtuber face design, and she’s hardly the first holo to sing deeper than she speaks

>> No.13957489

>>13956963
actually looks better lmao

>> No.13957545

>>13957446
yea same i find the samurai girl cuter also her rigging is really good too idk maybe its just my taste

>> No.13957582

>>13916159
And yet that's the same reason she's the most subbed/viewed HoloX member. Go big or go home, as they say.
>best model, good rigging and cute expressive face hidden before debut
>cutesy squeaky voice, paired with deep singing voice
>extremely ponkotsu, GFE, needy personality, perfect for your common otaku
>messes up, squeals and whines every 2 seconds, perfect for saviorfags
>first day singing stream, second day horror stream, buffing herself from the start rather than crippling herself with debuff games that she might like
>caters to EOP with cutesy English and promises of EOP singing stream
>implied to live with parents, for the unicorns out there

She's playing this game to win and its clearly working. She said in her debut that she loves money, so there's really no reason to be surprised.
I'd argue that she needs to pull back a bit as it will get old real fast for those who aren't completely braindead (like coomers on this board), but as of yet, the sky is the limit for her, even if she filters OP.

>> No.13957631

i refuse to believe this thread was made by a man, either you are a woman or a huge fucking faggot

>> No.13958598

>>13921211
very old meme you got there friend

>> No.13958801
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>>13949424
> t. Shirou

>> No.13958959

>>13957582
And me
Just unsubbed
I remember I was never here for GFE

>> No.13959135

>>13954907
Moving from Ojiisan to Ojiisan

>> No.13959140

>>13925950
That's just it. Real women are fake so the best fake woman is one that's not.

>> No.13959149

>>13957582
Perfect analysis. Being "perfect" for success is exactly why seems way too off for me.

>> No.13959208

>>13959140
but the fake women are played by real women, so by pretending to be real (fake) they are being fake (real)...

>> No.13961402

>>13916378
like the new pasta

>> No.13961438

>>13916159
Stop watching vtubers then. They're all faking some aspect of their personality

>> No.13961729

>>13954860
anon...

>> No.13963079

>>13959149
>Being "perfect" for success is exactly why seems way too off for me
>also begs for money on her debut
Guess this is what rubs people the wrong way.

>> No.13963467

>>13959140
>>13959208
Yep, real women have to be fake. Fake women can afford to be real.

>> No.13966208

>>13963079
That's pretty much it for me, she feels like a mass produced commercial holo. It doesn't surprise me in the slightless that she is getting big numbers.
I know the "fake" meme is being used a lot by shitposters but what other word would you use to describe a girl like this?

>> No.13966514

Is she any different from how she was when she was indie for 3 years?

>> No.13966577

>>13966208
bro you are watching a corpo being corpo, if you don't enjoy it go watch an indie, simple

>> No.13966701

>entertainer playing a character comes off as fake
O RLY?!

>> No.13966956

>>13966514
Not really, just exaggerating the pon/whining etc. which makes sense post debut and will probably mellow out over time.

>> No.13967127

>>13966577
>only indies can be genuine
Retarded post, do you even watch other holos?.

>> No.13967256

>>13966956
So people are just angry that she's popular, got it

>> No.13967305

>>13916159
her personality concept is burikko which is by definition fake. She's pulling it off wonderfully well which is why people knowingly love her

>> No.13967343

>>13954860
Burger spotted.

>> No.13967386

>>13954860
anon, that's a perfectly normal phrase...

>> No.13967398

>>13916159
I don't care about her but there are likely people that are into it
Just don't watch her

>> No.13967419

>>13950148
Implying most Holos aren't whores. Touch some grass and get some social life.

>> No.13967491

>>13966701
Ollie is playing a character too, yet you see nobody calling her "fake". That is because she is playing HER chaotic zombie character. Meanwhile, Chloe is not really unique in any way.

>> No.13967529

>>13945528
Are you okay with Subaru doing it for the money to support her family in this case?

>> No.13967768

>>13967529
Probably not, but he only leeches money from the government out of passion

>> No.13967823

and just wait for her top take the top SC spots

>> No.13967882

>>13916378
wait, what did the art tag change to?

>> No.13968104

>>13950172
Rein is a lesbian, no way she gets the power handed to her.

>> No.13968499

>>13916159
Is her hood 3d?

>> No.13971423

>>13967127
>watching hololive
I'd rather catch a bullet

>> No.13971634

>>13916979
i'm glad you understand

>> No.13971729
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13971729

This board is gay, i'm going back to /jp/

>> No.13971744

>>13971729
they don't really like her in /jp/ either
they like koyori and la+ over there

>> No.13973180

>>13971744
La+ is very likeable, no matter where

Chloe is very unlikeable, no matter where

>> No.13973442

>>13947916
peak autism

>> No.13973623

>>13973180
Only idots fall for Chloe's calculated cuteness.

>> No.13973685

>>13916159
Lamy....

>> No.13973728

>>13973623
I misspelled idiots. Yes, I'm an idiot too.

>> No.13973799

>>13952205
the only thing that matters is money, gen 3 changed the game when they went all in on unicorn pandering

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>>13925950

>> No.13974446

>>13947823
>Matsuri pretending to be single
Kek.

>> No.13974666

>>13953055
Based.

>> No.13980748

>>13916159
And how do you know what she's really thinking

>> No.13983081

any good porn yet?

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>>13916159
Can you imagine how hard Matsuri must be fapping to her and how badly her future rejection will hurt her poor menhera heart?
Brace for the festival Chloe saga, my friends.

>> No.13989085

>>13983858
What is with Matsuri and pining for women she can't have

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>>13957446
I like the cool mask, and her voice being so cute was a bonus.
I was looking forward to her when the poster first came out, but wasn't really expecting her to be the star of the generation.

I don't know why she exploded in popularity, because to me she's very average even though she's my JP oshi.

>> No.13989653

>>13967305
This. She acts fake like she knows everyone knows she’s faking cuteness. If you can’t understand how meta and funny this is, you just don’t have sense of humor.

>> No.13994601

>>13916378
fpbp

>> No.13995743

>>13916378
meds

>> No.13996280

>>13916384
>>13916159
obv as the selection process becomes more competitive and cutthroat its going to select for those with a psychopathic drive
not that this means theyre not entertaining, usually the chuubas who are the least personal are very entertaining (pekora)
but there def needs to be a balance between real and hyperreal, where it still feels like a person is behind the puppet and that its all kind of an ironic joke, it can get uncanny if theres no obvious seperation

this newest gen definitely feels the most like *entertainment*, pure acting, the person doesnt shine through as much
ive only watched clips but honestly yamada seems like the most genuine bc theres that very obvious irony to everything she says

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>>13916384
>mfw somebody gets a job for the money

>> No.13996715

>>13925950
if you werent born gay you have no chance of finding a genuine partner in the year 2015+6

>> No.13996869

>>13916378
Meds

>> No.13996913

>>13934354
Does he have history with her roommate or something kek

>> No.13997011

>>13967491
Ollie is playing a character as an entertainer while people are saying Chloe is playing a character as a cutesy woman to manipulate men out of money. Theyre two entirely different concepts.

>> No.13997030

>>13996913
He's her manager

>> No.13997058

>>13997030
No fucking way

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>>13916159
>orca

>> No.14000337

>>13916378
I kneel.

>> No.14000383

>>13924006
>move out of her parents house
Ah, so like what Shion did.

>> No.14000466

>>13916384
>tfw you need money to live

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