/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>13886677
holy newfag

>>13886677
Note: If you have any opinion that isn't overwhelmingly positive then you are Chinese and are not welcome here.

Gonna miss that bitch

>>13886677
I wish she did more 3D streams.

>>13886723
Anon, it's been months, you have to let her go...

>>13886677
a detriment to the company that they should have graduated 9 months sooner to save the CN branch

>>13886677
This has been discussed so many times already.

Now that the dust has settled, how is OP as a newfag and a tourist?

She had some shows, that no one else in Hololive would do on a regular basis

>>13886677
>as a VTuber
Fantastic
>as an idol
Abysmal

>>13886858
If we have daily Ayame threads we can have a thread discussing Coco, fuck you.

>>13886677
Her meme reviews were cringe and unfunny

kinda meh

She was a nice gateway for me to discover holos/vtubers more to my taste. Kinda disappointed in what she's doing now but whatever, she's making tons of money and probably happier and it's not like we're lacking for options to watch.

>>13886917
Then stop with the phrase "Now that the dust has settled".
Low quality ass bait.

>>13886677
>vtuber
Smokin Sexy Style
>idol
Dismal

>>13886885
What the hell happened with Haachama meme review?

>>13887286
she forgor skull emoji

>>13887286
I think it's simple language barrier. She can speak but not fluent enough to QUICKLY explain the memes.
Jokes become less funny as you explain it longer.

>>13887448
if only there were an english speaking holo that was fluent in meme culture....
oh wait, coco caused her and her entire branch to graduate

>>13886677
>vtuber
she hit the vtuber community pretty hard at the time, I remember seeing other vtubers stop their streams to go see her and not to mention the thousands of people getting up at 6am every day.
>idol
while she may not be the most idol of them all, I liked that she went from avoiding singing for months because she didn't like her own voice to doing karaokes at least once a week.

>>13886677
i wish she finished terraria or at least fought the wall of flesh

Can't say I ever really liked her style of humor.

>>13886677
She was ogey

>>13887742
dude drugs lmao

>>13887286

She said in a member stream that she's aware that kson was resuming meme review and decided to stop because she didn't want to cause any problems

>>13886677
the best

>>13886677
I fucking loved that bitch.
I still fucking love that bitch.
I always will fucking love that bitch.

>>13886677
Incredibly influential but her content after Asacoco 1.0 and even 2.0 to a lesser extent was kinda whatever

>>13886677
she was a spastic who took advantage of her managers ignorance to act like a whore, threw a temper tantrum when she got shut down and ran off like a bitch.

>>13886677
Quite literally, the Jesus of Vtubing.
Massive saviorfag, Crucified by the Zhangs, saved Hololive from the zhang menace (they get auto banned lol), resurrected again anyway to save all the Indies and 2views of the world.
Now kneel heretic or you will burn in dragonfire like the Arch-Traitor Artia.

She was really funny and lovely.
Plus, she was one of the only holos that collabed constantly with my oshi.

>>13891029
>saved Hololive from the zhang menace
She's the reason their chats still contantly get spammed by Chinese antis to this day.

>>13887521
ogey chang, your chink whore deserved it anyways.

>>13886677
Sure is a lot of dust around here.

>>13886677
Honestly, I can't comprehend why management can't accept her conditions, I mean anyways she is doing more or less the same she was doing before except for irl streams. Any rrats about her final objective? She just wanted to make zhangs not spamming her? She just wanted to be a vshojo? Money seems not being the issue since Yagoo himself offered her a lot and Coco still graduated.

>>13886677
Coco was pretty good, I liked her. Shame she went to shit after the graduation. Seems like Cover actually kept her in line, and without them she's just another worthless whore.

i thought she was boring. didn't suit my tastes at all (before and after) but i can appreciate what she accomplished

>>13891207
The anti-spam system came online because of HER, nigger. It was tested on her. Though Zhang and his friends will always remain retards, the damage they do has been mitigated for the most part. Fubuki, Aqua and even Kson herself don't really feel the wrath of these insects. And if there are, I'm used to fighting Wumaos, let them come at me.
Besides, the Zhangs got the divine retrubution in the end. NGA got shut down, Evergrande collapsed and stole all their money, and they can only play games 3 hours a week. While, now though separate, both Hololive and Kson keep making more bucks than ever before. Fucking LOL.

>>13891207
If it wasn't Coco it could be anyone else, remember that Haato was nearly to be the sole victim of the Taiwan yab and Choco had problems with zhangs too

as an idol she was shit, she barely got better by the end
as a vtuber, i guess i was able to see the appeal, but her humour honestly filtered me hard. like, id try to watch the reviews with the holos that i liked and she'd do these awful and awkward bits thatd go on for like 5 mins. i just straight up closed the tab for several of them cause of it.
i liked the fansa cover tho

>>13892029
The Reddit streams were not at all representative of her usual style of humor.

The best.

Well, i'm assuming you don't know japanese so i'll use stuff that has english subtitles.
For starters, if you want to understand her popularity, i'm going to link you a 4 minute news report & skit timestamp, turn on the captions.
https://youtu.be/ZjKLq_kneBo?t=991
She used to make this show 5 times a week, it had incredibly high production values considering it was a one man show most of the time, she made everything and it took her around 6 hours of work every day, several hololive members used to be featured on every episode.
The popularity and importance of asacoco cannot be understated, she really took the vtuber world by storm for a solid 4-5 months, at it's peak there even were some nijis who used to end their streams to watch asacoco, a daily 6AM stream that got 20k viewers was unheard of at the time.
Tamaki puts it into words in this clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Yj2qXsYqM
There's also this analysis made by a virtual economist she showed on her show a few times, it's a good read.
https://twitter.com/Seele000/status/1234808674901614592

Now, i'd be hard pressed to find a holo who is more misrepresented by clips than Coco.
She's the sweetest girl you'll ever find, she tries to put up a "strong" girl front and hates showing weakness, but it has slipped a few times, unfortunately more than ever given her current situation.
She's mostly a variety zatsudan streamer unlesss she gets really addicted to a new game like with Monster Hunter right now, she's not a streamer you will really be able to enjoy if you don't know japanese, the vast majority of her streams are entirely in japanese unless she's streaming a western game like say Terraria or Fallout at peak EOP hours, and unless she's playing Yakuza she will likely turn the stream into a zatsudan with the game as a background.

>>13892595
Her zatsudans can get pretty dark sometimes and her brand of cynicism appeals to an older (mostly salary-men) audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLYUyyGl0Rk
Sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IufQxMuWKds
And even deep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOPmdqaz444
But she mostly talks about the stuff she does with those closest to her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Hwc8Qkwis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0uo4aLYTGI
There's also these kind of streams every now and then where she'll turn a year-old running joke into a display of pure autism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF8RVoQhsuA
But instead of praising her more, i'll let other hololive members describe her for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55WBW6rDUyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHRvUkCrJWg
Her popular clips will give you the impression that she's brash but she's nothing like that, she's always thinking about others and is actually very insecure about herself and is constantly making self-deprecating humor.

Coco is not a mass-appeal streamer nor is it for everyone, asacoco used to have very dark humor at times and her zatsudans can be hard to get into if you're young or can't relate to her struggles as a wageslave, but even as someone you don't watch, you should still value her contributions as a hololive member and be glad she's always giving her absolute best at everything she does, she's a great support-type holo who does a lot behind the scenes, she may even try to silence another holo member during a collab if she starts talking about stuff Coco did for her.

In a sense, i see much of Marine in her, Coco is another introvert who tries really hard to not show it, it's not like this anymore but during her first months she really used her vtuber avatar to roleplay as someone she isn't, hell i'd say she's actually the exact opposite in real life of what her character used to be.

>>13886852
and you wonder why you get called a chink

>>13887286
She's not good enough to understand the memes, both in terms of language and overall common knowledge

>>13887819
...that's what they say.

>>13892663
A highly intelligent, deep, empathic and considerate being. And she IS strong, it's ok for the truly strong to show some moments of softness. Another bunch of my reasons to add in my "Why I love Kiryu Coco so much". It's really sad that the bugmen refuse to see that and only call her a talentless whore. But then again, they are bugmen.

>>13891373
I can
they didn't want to be raunchy like vshit
Coco was clearly headed that way and didn't care what happens

>>13897397
>raunchy
How to spot a clipwatcher.

She wasnt an idol, cant sing early on, burns her pubes on stream, tried to corrupt every seiso holiver, always collabs with literal old dudes, sounds like a dying mickey mouse catered to reddit and had the darkest jokes pre nerfed asacoco era

Despite that she is still my favorite and will always be my most favorite bitch in all of vtuber history o7

>>13897816
>wasnt an idol
I don't see how not. Growing confidence in yourself, improving your singing, it's all classic idol stuff. It's about the journey, not about being a finished product right off the bat.

>>13886677
she was the GOAT

>>13886677
She was Ok unti she became trash

She is the only vtuber that feels like having a real friend. I love her and I will always love her.

>>13896157
That's kinda what made it funny, though.

>>13886677
Ground breaking for Hololive, possible for the industry as a whole. Meme reviews was cringe but bearable (especially compared to Haachama who didn't knew shit about memes), didn't like her content but it was refreshing enough and it worked out.
Terrible idol though. Why did you even bother asking.

She's a whore but she made the chinks seethe so she's a based whore.

>>13899592
I feel the same. Whenever she does chat or a drinking stream, she's very open and honest with what she talks about. Someone interesting to do discussions with, someone who seems an easy friend.

Newfag here, how did she make thousands of zhangs seethe?

Did she mention stuff about Uyghurs or Taiwan on her stream?

>>13897681
Literally showed her naked ass onstream. The only way she could top it is if she got fucked onstream but I don't think she'd get away with that one.

I miss the shitty meme reviews...

>>13900924
>Literally showed her naked ass onstream
Watch streams

not really amazing, just famous because one of the "First"

>>13901031
Face it ksonfag. That's all she'll ever be known for to the casual audience, she did it to herself. I don't have to watch her stream to know she's a whore, it only takes showing your naked ass onstream once to cement that status.

>>13901024
It still happens everyweek just alot less reddit shitty and more cynical salaryman humor with some parts florida man sprinkled in

>>13901289
It's not the same without the special guests.

>>13886677
She's an overrated garbage, and her fans are obnoxious cucks

>>13900924
How about that time she burnt her pubes infront of tamaki while riding a vibrator

Still i dunno i cant stop watching her even now i just love her content for some reason

>>13901473
She had pikamee recently anon

>>13901031
Your oshi is basically nikocado, but more whorish

>>13900754
The later

>>13901765
She only did a muhkbang once and it was for some fruit sushi thing

Dosent do sjw vegan shit
And dosent argue with a boyfriend on live stream or get into drama

How is she anything like him? Or are you being a spaz farming for yous

>>13901928
>He doesn't know
I'm not talking about mukbang anon. See the comment I replied to. If you still don't understand then just forget it

>>13901975
You talking about the ass incident when she was cosplaying 2b?

I mean ok. Then? Do you want me to have a stroke over such a nothing burger when we’ve seen alot worse things?

Call her whatever im pretty sure nothing i say will make you watch and il still watch her shit. I mean lets be honest here you’re oshi has prob worse shit in niconico douga lol

>>13902110
That's right, nothing you say will ever make me watch an e-thot.

>>13902226
No lost to me buddy

Heres more YOUs for you

>>13901110
>That's all she'll ever be known for to the schizos
correction

I liked Coco but i like kson even more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K17KeVaMJY8
Her cam streams are comfy and chill, love watching her build stuff.

>>13903596
honestly i like her either way, as vtuber and 3dp, struck gold and never leaving

>>13901110
Not that anon but there's nothing to "face", nobody considers her a whore, let alone the people that actually watch her.
You can shitpost all you want but i really hope you don't actually believe the retarded stuff you post because that would be worrying.

>>13903775
>nobody considers her a whore
>no see, you people that call her a whore don't exist
Next level argument.

>>13904316
I don't need an argument when all you have are retarded lies, keep coping.

>>13904349
Guess I was hallucinating when I saw her naked ass onstream.

>>13904500
She already talked about it and it wasn't on prupose so it's irrelevant, anything else? no? just your mental illness? Good then, keep coping.

>>13903596
>Conan nanoblock
I will now watch kson

>>13891029
The only answer.

>>13904554
>you don't understand, bending over and walking on all fours while wearing a skirt that stops above your asscheeks while your ass is pointed directly at the camera is normal behavior, she didn't know what she was doing, so were the other 3 instances of her showing her naked ass in that single stream

>>13904585
She cooks mini-food too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSJLEJOGbiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul5P-JHv1wI

>>13886677
Pretty great. I easily enjoyed about half of the content she put out at any given time, more than most.

>>13904644
Oh it's you the retarded selen avatarfag, what a pathetic schizo.

>>13900754
Chinks were using taiwanese vpn to access YouTube since it is blocked in China.
This made it look to YouTube like a large amount of views were coming from Taiwan. Haato and Coco were looking at their analytics on stream and mentioned Taiwan since it was listed.
That’s it.

>>13904644
This alone proves you didn't watch it at all.

>>13886677
Excellent Vtuber. Unconventional idol. Amazing manager.

>>13904644
Please stop using my oshi for your mongoloid posts

>>13904839
>>13900754
A bit more complicated than this. TL;DR: cn felt irrelevant, wanted to control cover more; took it out on American woman; got their castrated nuts handed back to them.

Full story -
(1/?)
Chinese fans make a lot of clips and subbed videos for the fandom to grow in 2019
Azur Lane collab event gives holos even more visibility
Majority of "overseas" fans were Chinese.
Most holos have their own "room" in bilibili where streams are re uploaded (subbed) or even simulcast.
Unpaid fans manage all the social media for these holos, and are in direct touch with cover
CN branch made

2020
Asacoco takes off - some nationalists have issues with American woman, but discussing politics is not allowed on bilibili
Sankisei and Korone become popular
Corona starts. Lockdown allows more westerners to discover hololive.
The majority of overseas fans are now westerners, with fewer holos pandering to bilibili

Chinese fans demand more exclusive shows by holos on bilibili.
They agree, do a few shows, but not frequently.
Few promises for live shows are made, and forgotten
Aqua mentions Taiwan. They get pissed but mostly keep it down.
Choco mentions Taiwan. Then start losing it and make a stink.
Official Apology given with the promise of training the talents on "what sensitive words/topics need to be avoided"

Pekora gets called out for promising some events but not following it up.
Suisei attends an event but they fuck up her 3D model and are humiliated because of it.
Numbers start coming in about how irrelevant they are and how much more interested the holos are in the EOPs compared to them.
Meanwhile the western community grows with awesome fanart, music, and multiple TL channels replacing the cn hololive moments channel.

>>13886677
stunning and brave

>>13907335
(2/?)
Bilibili is not happy. These Japanese vtubers are funneling money out of their country. They want more control and more profits. Nationalists are not happy.
They start putting more effort into their own chuubas, but hololive is still too popular. They need to get more control over cover's money.

Haato shows her youtube analytics - the Japanese title shows "viewership breakdown by country" and it lists Taiwan.
Some Chinese vpn's connect via Taiwan, but not all the time, so the data isn't really inaccurate. (there are a lot of taiwanese fans too)
Cn seething.
Her video gets dislike bombed and there are many vocal arguments against her and cover on twitter.

Coco does the same thing on asacoco.
Bilibili erupts.
The asacoco video is taken down while Coco was doing an unarchived singing stream and she is confused about what happened (she sounds upset and worried for a few seconds, but continues singing)

Next day - no apology from Coco or haato or cover.
Dislike bombing continues.
Meme review with roboco is full of spam in the chat.
Comments about how this is the 4th time cover has fucked up and asking Coco why she did this after haato made the same mistake.
We later learn that Coco was asked not to respond/give a statement (what's she going to say? That cover fucked up? They lied about training them on topics/words to avoid? No way cover is going to let her throw them under the bus)

After the second day hololive is considered an enemy of the One-China policy.
A narrative is made that Coco did this on purpose to protect haato and that she never cared about China as she's a filthy American.
Bilibili usually doesn't allow discussion on politics, so anyone who tries defending this is banned.
One by one all hololive rooms are locked.

Cover suspends Coco and haato for 3 weeks.
They claim haato can come back, but the evil American woman (who is corrupting hololive and bringing western capitalist culture to make all the holos whores) needs to be fired.

>>13907466
(3/you know the rest)

Meanwhile the western audience is seething over the 3 week ban. Reddit is up in arms.
/jp/ is fucking pissed (/hlg/ was created because of asacoco after all)
Cover is in a tough spot.
They decide to wait it out.

NGA contacts a scripter (known as ywwuyi) to make a spambot to harass the holos. He gets in touch with artia's discord (is is soon followed on twitter by the roommates of artia and civia). The tool (called a wheelbarrow) is ready by the time of Coco's return after 3 weeks.

When the link for asacoco is put up the spam starts and the video is disliked bombed. It copies a set of random phrases from twitch streams and also stuff to irritate the other members of chat (like saying how one Holo is better than another one, insulting or praising Gura, etc), but then also copies comments from other actual posters in the chat.

Asacoco starts, Coco doesn't apologize (she plays the character of "Presenter C" so she maintains that character). She numberfags a bit, puts up a fake chat, acts perfectly normal, does her CMs, promotes Suisei's upcoming concert and Haato's return stream, and ends the stream with a message "don't forget to subscribe if you loved it. If you hated it, fuck U and never come back"

The Chinese are absolutely assblasted and btfo'd.
But they decide to play the long game and are ready to put all their time and money into spamming her.
They buy fake Google accounts instead of spending on gatcha, and create multiple youtube channels per account. Each channel is used to spam till Coco manually blocks them.

This goes on for about 6 months till Susan finally prevents 3rd party api's from using the chat without authentication

>>13891029
/thread

I didn't watch much of her because her sense of humor wasn't really to my taste but I can see why she was so popular. Seems like she made some good friends at Cover. I've watched more Kson than Coco for what it's worth

>>13907566
I kekked. God bless coco and capitalist debt

I swear no well-intentioned post has ever included the phrase “now that the dust has settled”. And all posts including that phrase sound like they were made by the same person.

>>13886852
t. bugman

>>13886677
the dust does not settle.
coco was so-so at best as a chuuba, and not an idol in the slightest.
they should have hired her as a manager like she originally wanted instead of pushing her to be a streamer. shit would actually be getting done. talents would be getting the kind of social support that a number of them desperately need that's practically unheard of in japan. hololive would be better if she'd been allowed to be management like she'd intended.
instead we have faggots like half this thread who turned her into their sacred-cow emblem of "resistance" against the chinks, against her wishes, and just shit up the place.
>>13886730
neck yourself. the wumao are busy harassing fubuki now.
>>13887666
I know, right? her best streams were when she was dorkily fumbling through that and having a blast, it's sad she dropped it in spite of her own apparent enjoyment.
>trips of truth
>>13900754
she said "taiwan" (reading google's YT viewer stats) while being an american, so the wumao went to war against hololive as a whole and her in particular.
anons around here like to turn that into some kind of calculated act but she was just doing what was at that point her gimmick: shittalking her coworkers.
>>13904554
she literally asked on twitter if people liked it. sounds like you're the one coping with that incident.
>>13907335
>>13907466
>>13907566
reposting your retarded rrats don't make them true, zhang. fuck off.

>>13915105
>she literally asked on twitter if people liked it
That was her joking about it because what's done is done and it's not like she could take it back. Just the fact that you believe she was originally going to be manager goes to show you pick and choose what to believe and what not to believe. That narrative came out of literally nowhere.

>>13886677
might be the goat

>>13886677
I like her.
That's it.

Although making Hololive got addicted to Ark was kinda bad.
It could've been a better game.

She was best in collabs.

>>13886677
From the streets did she emerge and to the streets she will return
2 And I say unto you
"She is for the streets."
3 So be not weary when she must return from whence she came.

>>13915105
>>13916939
>>13916838
>>13915323
Zhang

>>13917072
>Zhang
I just don't like Ark dude.

>>13886677

>>13917136
woah... ease up on that bat soup, xiao lee

>>13915105
>coco was so-so at best as a chuuba,
Literally the biggest earner in chuuba history was only so-so
Okay, retard.

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>>13917206
stop falling for the low quality chink bait
these holobronies can't move on

>>13917276
I see what you're trying to do but it's not convincing at all.

>>13917340
and a ching ching chong chong to you too

>>13886677
The fukkin best

>>13917072
>>13917188
>>13917276
>>13917389

the absolute state of ksonfags
and then they claim others are the ones that can't move on
face it, not only bugs dislike your whore

>>13886677
The GOAT

>Creates HoloEn
>Introduce Hololive to western audience
>Got harassed by bugmen by showing a picture
>Senpais failed to defend her yet she still thinks of them as her friend
>Bounce back and became the best indie vtuber
God i love this bitch so much.

>>13917161
would she still be no1 if she didnt graduate?

>>13918098
It took Rushia 5 months to catch up to Coco froz n SC earnings.

Unless you are Japanese or fluent in Japanese you never understand her uniqueness. The JP members are not for EOPs.

>>13918066
>>13918098
>>13918133
>>13918138
Please stop fighting, I'm sure Kson and Hololive are still in good terms

>>13918002
>>13918066
>>13918098
>>13918133
Kson & Hololive are friends

>>13918358
>Kson & Hololive are friends, but only behind the scene,and with members she was close anyway (and that is an overstatement)
Correction

>>13918358
lies, the only thing her fans want is for hololive to implode and fans reflect their streamer

>>13918358
yeah you love that corpo cock don't you?
useless senpai can't even protect the based dragon who carried the whole company

>>13918358
How? Hololive doesn't exist in Ksonverse

>>13918472
>carried the whole company
Meanwhile without Coco, holo got their images and promotion at a national level baseball league, at Square Enix and at Tokyo Sky Tree.
Now even her dedicated translator was shitting on her latest interview stream

>>13918436
>>13918455
>>13918645
Zhang

>>13918686
Cope, seeth, mald lmao

>>13918686
literally can't come up with an actual response

>>13917072
i said she might be the greatest of all time tho!?

>>13919065
Don't bother, the tail end of this thread has been him pretending to be several people and arguing with himself.

why are there so many chinese immigrants here?

>>13886677
A failure in both

>>13919148
Why are you replying to yourself?

>>13918002
Why are you replying to your own posts? at least try to change your posting style, this is embarrassing.

>>13918686
so tatsunoko are just calling everyone zhang now?

>>13919398
This is the most blatant samefagging i've ever seen, you literally couldn't be more pathetic if you tried.

>>13919334
you're trying too hard, chink

Post more coco fanart to kill the bugmen holobronies

>>13887448
reddit memes were never funny, the segment was popular among EOPs because it was the only time they could somehow understand what was going on

>>13886677
I found her content cringe, all the reddit meme reviews to her final song being a safe way to say "mother fuckers"

>>13919502
wrong thread holobrony

Image if a meido actually saw this thead and banned the dude that has been replying to his own posts for 3 hours now.

>>13919528
they are literally taking about her content on a thread about her content
literally worse than bugs