/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Fuck off.

>>1388216
Ok Melody is the one that actually does her shtick well. The rest of em? I mean come on, there can only be so many "Anime girl says crude shit" vtubers right?

>>1388179
who knows, i do think they're all very samey but they're essentially just a bunch of indies that banded together.
whether they succeed or implode depends on how well they hire and push their new talents.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't
Vshojo might not be my thing but they evidently have their appeal, so as long as there's still enough of those fans, they'll be fine

>>1388380
What happened to the new 2? Did the robo chick debut?

>>1388502
lets just say for now the new hires haven't really been making their mark.
they really need to branch out and get different personalities with more varied skill sets to each a wider audience.

>>1388179
Only four of them are arguably worth watching, and that greatly depends on your tastes. Nyanners is running off 10+ years of existing so I think she'll be fine regardless of what happens. Melody is technically the first breakout western vtuber and also a whore (kind of a shame about that second part, since she seems to do the cute act better than any of them). Froot seems to have a niche for herself with being cute and a decent artist, despite certain negative roommate things circulating. Ironmouse feels the most out of place to me, like she's putting on an act to fit in with the rest. She'd probably be better off trying to join a certain other group (cough cough) but she might just enjoy being friends with the group.

That's all. The others in the group could disappear tomorrow and no one would give a shit.

>>1388583
They've really been banking hard on the lewd shit huh? I swear the only popular clip of the new girl is her moaning.

>>1388583
https://twitchtracker.com/apricot

Made me reply, have some Freets.

Hime is another story.

>>1388595
I should also add that silvervale genuinely seems to enjoy being a vtuber and supporting others who do the same, but I can't stand her character of being an overly sexual titcow. The novelty wore off quickly when I tried watching.

>>1388595
It does feel that way doesn't it? And that makes me sad because you don't even need to do your reps to know why she's Vtubing, so if she's putting on an act to fit in. That just hurts man.

Do they need permissions for games?

>>1388742
Not as far as I know but they're on Twitch so...They might as well

>>1388742
no, the only reason hololive needs that is because japanese copyright law is fucked.
i don't think any american ever needed permission to do a let'splay.

>>1388695
I'm sure she has fun with it but I imagine what she really wanted to do has just been killed off by the shitty hand life dealt her. I don't imagine she'll ditch them so long as there isn't any shady shit going on behind the scenes.

>>1388777
>Inb4 Nintendo lobbies to change the law.

isnt that red dragon a man

>>1388798
This may not be the perfect place for it but fuck it. I relate to Mousey on a personal level. She is legit the only Vtuber I don't want to see bad shit happen to.

>>1388810
yes but so is your mom so it all balances out.

>>1388810
Going by the fullbody clips it's either a chick or a very feminine man.

The long running rrat (?) is that it was/is a couple project

>>1388836
considering how serious her autoimmune shit is you may want to brace yourself cause she's honestly here on borrowed time.

>>1388836
I admire her for being able to exude so much wild, positive energy and do her best to entertain. She could very easily just be miserable and pity bait everyone. Hopefully she's able to live comfortably in her situation and have as much fun as possible.

>>1388179
One of them sure won't lmao

>>1388926
God damn that's dark anon

>>1388278
>"Anime girl says crude shit"
This. Like it was already officially done when the Ghost Stories dub was released, we all had a good laugh. Then around 2006-2012 it peaked when amateur VAs would repeat copypastas and say lewd or shocking things in an anime/loli voice. It was internet/anime/nerd culture at its finest. Now? It's basically the same as a guy starting an "Angry Gamer Rants!" YouTube channel. It's been done, we're fucking sick of it, others have done it far better than you, we don't need another one. I've met too many of these girls in discord channels, and the reality is far more off putting when you realize they've got no real direction, they're just doing a parlor trick with their voice. That's their peak. Gura probably saw the same trend and joined Hololive to escape getting swallowed up by the inevitable wave of trashy girls trying to out do each other on how raunchy they're willing to go for attention. And with that, the Vshojo group honestly feels like they're going hit the hardest by some petty drama that will make the entire operation crash.

>>1389099
No shit I actually considered becoming a Vtuber (Am a guy) just to counter this raunchy bullshit

>>1389099
honestly so long as they manage to avoid politics and drama i think they can remain stable.
i don't see any major reason for them to crash unless they fuck and start being unprofessional

>>1388278
It's becoming the new "two friends playing videogames and wacky shit happens" comics. But the variable is that there are real girls behind the avatars, so that creates loyalists because they want to help them.

>>1389216
Melody is literally the AVGN of "Anime girl says crude shit"

She was one of the first and even after all this time she still does it fairly well and even at her worst she's still ok.

>>1389275
The first ones almost always get a pass due to seniority rule, and if they are able to handle themselves well. It's also due to being a secondary and wanting to jump in into the gravy train.
I don't watch Melody, but I'll trust you. But newer people that want in on the game and only want profit and fame might look into her, grab the most superficial, meme aspects of her, and ape the whole schtick, becoming RAUNCHY ANIME GURL #7253. There might be exceptions, as always.

Aslong as twitch exist they will exist.
>>1388742
>>1388777
technically they DO need eprmissions
Atlus,square,nintendo,sega and capcom have acted and coystriked videos before on twitch.BUT twitch is so small compared to youtube that the effort is wasted.
Sega automatically blocks anything realted to yakuza dead souls on youtube and i doubt they will be ok with that being streamed on twitch.
Twitch is and will alwasy be a walking timebomb of dmca. Hell the chit chat section is just reacting to youtube videos many of big tv stations most of the time.

>>1389426
you're not wrong, but these people will lose stream when they don't get an audiance and drop out.
if they ever manage to fucking debut.
i swear the rate of people talking about becoming a v-tuber vs people actually putting out content is like 9:1 in the west.

>>1389275
Melody = AVGN
Nyanners = Nostalgia Critic
Everyone else = TGWTG/CA people
for the most part. all of these shitters still have an audience that have been watching since the begining that can generate them enough money to keep doing this shit instead of something else. I think they're fine. The rest fall under the TGWTG flag because it's likely, like the rest of the OG TGWTG crew, that they will branch off to their own thing or silently retire.

Funny how mouse and mel are probably the most normal out of the bunch. Rest have too much dirty history behind them.

>>1388179
It's not like it's trying times for western e-thots, and these ones have their foot in the door for being english vtubers while the scene is still growing. Inertia and the desperation of your average horny loser will keep them healthy.

>>1389509
That is actually a really good analogy anon.

I wonder who's the Linkara of Vtubers?

>>1388595
>>1388695
>Ironmouse feels the most out of place to me, like she's putting on an act to fit in with the rest
You mean the MY LEWD VAGINA LMAO >comedy? I was going to check her out once but stopped when I saw how every other one of her own clips was titled like that. Does she ever just not do that shit?

>>1389557
Mel has a different kind of dirty history am I right?

Wait, what's the dirt on the TTS Dragon?

>>1389662
Have you watched her sing?

>>1389662
In fairness to Mousey it does seem to be her actual sense of humour but she really ramped it up since she joined Vshojo.

There is also the fact she's running on borrowed time so I can forgive the horny shit.

>>1389653
hopefully nobody.

>>1388179
>Ironmouse and Froot are totes same act!
Nigger, you've never watched ANY of their streams.

>>1389662
She's been living in a bubble in Puerto Rico; it's stunted her sense of humor.

>>1390703
None of these fucks has watched anything VShojo, which makes this entire thread hilarious. A bunch of shitters pretending they know what they're talking about having a circle jerk.

>>1391221
I've seen enough to know that mouse and froot need to take their audience and run. Also that vshoujo threads don't belong on this website

>>1389653
I have no clue if a Linkara already exists in the industry. Maybe? I'd give it some time before we see who is the Linkara of the group.

Although, I have one idea of who it could be...

>>1391617
>Kiara as Link "Nasty Cock Slut" ara
KFP are on their way

>vshojo viewership keeps on going up month after month (except for mel)
>hololive viewership is in the fucking toilet

>Am I the only one who thinks Vshojo won't last?
lmao

>>1389710
??? she's clearly dialed it down A LOT from a year ago

>>1391716
Everyone playing undertale and waifu horseracing at the same time wasnt Covers best idea

>>1388810
yes

None of them need an agency and nor do the other prominent indies.

>>1392149
The txt exists for a reason. Cover wouldn't have took off if their scouting department was anything less than godly.

>>1388595
>the one who's been vtubing with the same persona for 3.5 years is putting on an act to fit into the group

>>1388179
Why western vtuber like this

>>1388595
>Ironmouse feels the most out of place to me, like she's putting on an act to fit in with the rest.
Just say you're a clipwatcher or that you don't care. I started watching her only half a year ago and she always feels genuine.

>>1388926
goddamn...

>>1392713
because Americans are retarded

>>1389197
I'm actually working on my own avatar to do the same thing. I don't wanna counter anything, though, I just wanna meet and interact with them in some capacity outside of a simpish money tossing name rapidly scrolling by.

yeah, I know I'm fucking pathetic

>>1392713
outrage_at_loli_material_from_culture_that_sexualizes_minors.png

>>1388810
whatever they are, they crack me the fuck up every stream. like, legit funny.

>>1392713
>Random post about a Vtuber who isn't part of the group being discussed
Rent Free

>>1392887
The old model and the TTS thing were a really good combination.

>>1392713
>Hey! Those tweets are from when I didn't have an audience to pander to. I've since learned that you can make a shitload of money off of this and I'm willing to bite my tongue as long as the cash keeps rolling in. I'd appreciate it if nobody brings up the fact that I have no principles other than "make money".

>>1391004
i don't think she's living in an actual bubble, she just can't leave her house and has to keep it clean or something.

>>1392912
I miss Zen's old 3D model, her 2D one is nice but it doesn't have the same expressive fun of her 3D one and it lags behind a bit in comparison.

>>1392963
She can't leave her room I think. She does all her stuff from her bed.

>>1392990
iirc the thing with her illness is she basickly doesn't have an immune system, so literally anything can just fucking kill her.
but i mean so long as you make sure everything is fully sterilized in her house i don't see why she has to be confined to one room/bed.

>>1392990
She doesn't even have a window in her room.

>>1392963
Her condition is basically super AIDS. No antibodies for anything.
If you sneeze near her, she will fucking die.
If you touch her and you have some light rash or something that can be transmitted by contact, she will fucking die.

>>1393031
like Tali without a suit

>>1393017
>>1393031

This is an exaggeration, but the main point is she has very few or no natural antibodies, which means she can get sick a lot easier, but more problematic is she can get sick from things that most of us never catch because we're completely immune to them, like certain bacteria or fungi that never effect us, even if it lives in our body. She can have her immune system boosted by plasma donations from people who have antibodies and with medicines, but she can't make her own antibodies.

>>1393017
Lots of muscular/nerve issues as a result of repeated infections keep her confined to bed. She talked about how she's been making progress on being able to take a few steps in her room lately on one of the DnD streams.

>>1388595
Ironmouse is one of the oldest Vtubers. She even predates Hololive.

>>1393127
that's nice, i hope she gets better.

>>1392713
they are women, they believe whatever is convenient

>>1393119
>immune system boosted by plasma donations
Imagine being a medieval poorfag and having that condition.
It'd look like God himself just decided to say fuck you.

>>1393182
Does she predate Sora? She started streaming on NND at the beginning of 2017, but hololive itself only started debuting more people in 2018.

>>1393265
>She started streaming on NND at the beginning of 2017
sauce? https://en.hololive.tv/portfolio/items/tokino-sora as well as all of the various wikis say that Sora debuted September 7, 2017

>>1393265
Mouse was August 2017

>>1393456
>>1393459
Huh. Sorry, it was my fault. Dunno why I thought that she debuted earlier. Yeah, Mouse is older than her.

>>1388179
>Literally, the second biggest company in the Market

>Only after Hololive in popularity

The members can change, but the brand might continue

>>1393213
and now with human advancements we can spit in the face of god

>>1388595
>Ironmouse feels the most out of place to me,

Low tier bait

>>1389509

Ironmouse can 100x more in a single stream, than most of Channel awesome in 10 years

Is not a good comparasion

>>1395017
whoever came up with the name deserves a medal

>>1395017
Wait VShojo is bigger than hololive? Because Nijisanji is the biggest in the market.

>>1395343
The internet at their peak was a fraction of the internet now.

And Japan thought Hololive would never be big or overtake Nijisanji.

>>1395864
Feels the other way around, when was the last time you went to a niche forum outside of 4chan or you know where

>>1395973
I mean the population. Yeah, obviously the websites of the internet have "shrunken" and majority of it's users have consolidated in the Web 2.0's Shittlers list of media services. But the amount of internet users since 2008 is what, like 10-50x what it was back then? Most places didn't even have DSL in 2008-10 when CA was peak.

>>1395815
Nijisanji does actually have a presence internationally? This is news to me.

>>1396083
Yeah, i'd say probably 60% of the world has internet now, closer to 80 if you include africans with cellphones

>>1388179
>They all put on the same act.
No, they don't.

And they will probably stay together as long as humanly>>1388278

>>1388179
>My gut tells me Vshojo will crash. I can't be the only one right anons?
All good things come to an end. But in the near future?
You dont understand us, their fans.

>>1388179
Legitimately too big to fail

>>1388926
Bad taste and ignorance, even for 4chan standards.
And we are supposed to be toilet of the internet.

>>1388179
Give a concrete date by which you think it will have happened or else shut the fuck up

nyannaers will outlive them al (literally in the case of ironmouse), as for the rest, betting it all on coombrains is a terrible strategy since there's always going to be better new/better shit to jerk it to

>>1388926
jesus christ

>>1389557
>Rest have too much dirty history behind them.
We don't care.
Learn to keep the artist and the œuvre appart.

>>1397519
reddit: the post

>>1395928
>And Japan thought Hololive would never be big or overtake Nijisanji.
Right. We are in uncharted territory.

>>1395864
>The internet at their peak was a fraction of the internet now.
Agreed, quality over quantity. But what's your point?

>>1397745
what is the story behind zen and piwo?

>>1389557
ooh, like what? I think I have a pic of nyanners ripping off her panties but I'm not even sure it's real.

>>1397567
i enjoyed snuffy's content before she went full coomer pandering

>>1397879
Snuffy is indie

>>1397847
the point is judging the two based on metrics isn't great. vShoujo exists back in 2008 with the same amount of viewers as they do in 2021, they would be one of if not the most influential group in their industry.

>>1388179

>>My gut tells me Vshojo will crash. I can't be the only one right anons

Same can be said for Hololive. Even more so since the Japanese get tired of things fast. When was last time you about Kaguya Luna or Kizuna Ai?

>>1397771
>reddit: the post
I've been here on and off since late 2003. I've never posted on reddit.

The defense rests.

>>1397852
Piwo is Russian.They look alike A LOT. Zen used a Russian accent until recently.
So Piwo asks Zen to recognize her as her daughter.

They should do a collab some day.

>>1395973
>Feels the other way around, when was the last time you went to a niche forum outside of 4chan or you know where
Not him. But I do. I'm not the average internet user, of course.

>>1398730
This. Piwo-chan kind of made it a bit of a meme that Zentreya was her mother, but Zen declared on stream she didn't have any kids, which "broke Piwo's heart", which prompted someone to make a sob-story video about how Zentreya abandoned Piwo. Zen finally saw that video and her chat got all over her about it, even tho she didn't know shit about it, and she did a couple of roulette games to decide Piwo's fate: adopt her, let chat adopt her, or neither. The first time it landed on chat adopt, but chat declared rigged so they rerolled and it landed on adopt Piwo, after a few more bits of shenanigans Zen used a different roulette which landed twice on "no" but Zen did one more final pull just to make chat happy and it landed on "yes" for adopting Piwo-chan. So now Zen has to adopt Piwo-chan.

>>1398637
I'll sign this. the way a very small subsection of anons act on this board is surprisingly, legitimately the shittiest behavior out of anything I've seen in being here consistently since 04.

>>1398228
>Japanese get tired of things fast
Where did that come from?
Kaguya Luna retired and Kizuna Ai was corporate fucked
Hololive is cursed but in a way completely different from the precarious nature of an association of independent vtubers, which is what OP is talking about.

>>1388836
>>1388892
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>>1388926
Jesus fucking christ. Yesterday I was laughing at this picture but now it is really starting to sink in on me knowing just how fucked she really is.

>>1402609
Don't. While I don't know if Mousey has seen that picture yet (tho I am sure she has), if there was one person who would appreciate the dark humor it would be her.

>>1399802
>chat declared
the one thing I hate about streaming is how people treat the chat like one person. I have never been interested in what the chat has to say about anything.

>>1405011
You clearly don't know Zentreya's chat, which means you fit in with the rest of the wankers in this thread acting like they know anything about VShojo.

>VShojo
>The same group that employs Melody a fucking porn tubber that has dildo activated superchats
>Going woke

The only rrate in this thread is the idea of OP having anything higher than a single digit IQ.

>>1405068
Counter point: Look at what happened to Mia Khalifa

>>1400065
>shittiest behavior out of anything I've seen in being here consistently since 04.
lie or has exclusively browsed /jp/ for 17 years

>>1405030
>d-dude Zentreya delays chat messages, they have really good timing just like in my highlight clips

Sorry to spoil the magic for you, dumbass.

>>1405068
reminder that going woke for the common e-whore doesn't mean they don't want people to stop jerking off to them. They just want to get paid for it

>>1392713
>believing women have principles
ngmi

I miss nazi uniform Zen.

>>1405068
Wokies can flip flop at will on anything related to women titillating men. If they don't like it, it's objectification of women. If they like it, it's female empowerment.

i just cant handle how alot of them use constant toilet and sex humor, it gets old so fast. and some of them seem like spoiled normie girls. though the moments that some of them drop the overused humor they can be quite entertaining.

>>1400065
>a very small subsection
One of the biggest running memes of all time here is about a comic about a miscarriage, to the point that it's recognizable on almost any board from 4 lines drawn in MS paint. Another huge one is about a cartoon fox diaper/baby doujin.