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So what's the verdict on HoloX?

>> No.13844123

>>13844080
They aight

>> No.13844136

>>13844080
People had differing opinions

>> No.13844146

it's absurd how far ahead of the competition cover is in terms of scouting

>> No.13844175

>>13844080
Lolicons won

>> No.13844188

>>13844080
Better than Council as a first impression

>> No.13844197

If they play their cards right, they'll be right up there with Gen 3 and EN 1

>> No.13844220

>>13844080
>>13844080
Pretty good, I would say 4/5 seems interesting, every gen has their iroha. They just need to turn down the numberfagging.

>> No.13844248

My tier list:
>laplus
>chloe
>Lui
>Iroha
>pink cat bad

>> No.13844289

>>13844080
Extreme numberfagging is going to be very abrasive.

>> No.13844321

Orca and Cunny great, others are just deadweights

>> No.13844331

>>13844080
8.5/10
Great

>> No.13844412

So these idiots cannot start their stream for 15 minutes now. Rate scuff.

>> No.13844451

>>13844080
>Chloe
Not bad, but I don't watch the stream.
>Lui
Not interested, I don't watch the stream.
>La+
Good, but I don't watch the stream.
>Another Nyanners
Not bad, but I don't watch the stream.
>Iroha
Boring, I don't watch the stream.

>> No.13844595

>>13844080
Yamada is perfection...which is the problem, as perfection requires subtitles due to being the original Japanese dub.

>> No.13844625

more like HoloSEX

>> No.13844685

>>13844080
HoloX more like HoloSEX

>> No.13844735

I gotta see the streams first

>> No.13844902

>>13844146
>scouting
Isn't 80% of Holox poached?

>> No.13845072

>>13844080
They're great. Particularly Chloe and La+, they're absolutely the strongest in the gen. Only exception is Iroha. Don't really care for her much, or the "degozaru" every other sentence. I hope they turn up the numberfagging. I love seeing it make people like >>13844220 seethe.

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>> No.13845405

>>13844625
>>13844685
*Lui notwithstanding

>> No.13845443

>>13844080
Most uninspired gen yet. Boring designs, boring voices, boring personalities. I thought that gen 5 was shit but this one is even worse. And as much as I hate Council, at the very least they have interesting designs.

>> No.13845470

>>13845073
pretty mucho

>> No.13845521

>>13845072
numberfagging is a mental illness, get help

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>>13844451
based ESLretard
>>13844625
>>13844685
this but with Lui

>> No.13845566

All of them are good except Iroha and Lui

>> No.13845604

>>13845443
Go seethe more nijinigger

>> No.13845646

>>13844685
bro my post is literally right above u stop copying me

>> No.13846032

>>13845073
Based taste.

>> No.13846570

>>13845604
>Implying
Gen 6 is dead on arrival. 1k views per stream soon kek

>> No.13846620

>>13845604
literally obsessed

>> No.13846665

I like them a lot.
Not to shit on council but there are a superior gen. They seems also superior to jp 4th and 5th gen.
Cover put a lot of effort in this gen

>> No.13846729

I like Koyori because she shows her tummy. Couldn't care less about the rest.

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>>13845073
based

>> No.13846783

I thought gen 3 was cover's magnum opus, this gen might be better than them.

>> No.13846799

Unsubbed from all coz they gave them Ochame Kinou before EN

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>>13844080

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>>13844080

This:
>>13846665

>> No.13847152

>>13844080
can't wait for the grudgeposting after they lose their momentum and honeymoon is over

>> No.13847237

>>13845443

I'll second the boring designs. Lui's in particular is bad and despite her impressive resume her design is really harming her.

>> No.13847242

>>13847152
There won't be any because no one is going to watch them. This place is 90% EOPs

>> No.13847256

They're condemned to be low-middle tier holos unless they bring something good and new to the table. I'm not really impressed by 4 out 5 debuts at all. But the true test isn't the debuts, but how they deal in a normal-ass week 4 months after the debut, not being propped by something else.

>> No.13847274

I have to hand it Cover, you really have to try your damned best to debut an entire generation where not one of the girls is promising. I guess at least my time management won't take a huge hit.

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I can't wait for Not Cat, Not Fox Mahjong

>> No.13847317

EOPs can't stop losing, that's why they hate on holox which is an excellent branch so far, i don't blame them though, imagine having council as a new branch, that fucking sucks

>> No.13847424

>>13844123
Not bad since they trying something new with this gen
But if compared to council, Gen 6 is very good from their debut

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>>13844080
>laplus
didn't watch the stream because i was napping but i would say 8/10 from the clips
>lui
legitimately don't care about her
>chloe
looked boring to me until the debut stream happened. was sleeping again so 8/10
>pink kot
don't care
>iroha
wanted to like her from the very beginning but ended up being disappointed. she's clearly a normalfag and possess more power on the technical side of things. her debut was pretty boring but it's too early to judge her. i personally wouldn't want to watch ffxiv/pso2 streams since it's boring as fuck to watch someone else playing them instead of experiencing them by yourself.

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13847614

feeling very positive about them in general.

>> No.13848156

At the very least, there's no case where the voice completely doesn't fit the character

>> No.13848473

>>13844080
Aside from the disgustingly blatant numberfagging from more than one of them, they're alright. I can see Chloe becoming another Ayame though. She legit admitted on her DEBUT stream that she just joined in for ez money and her being all >muhsleepy indicates that she'd probably be streaming the least out of all of them.

>> No.13848578

>>13848473
>She legit admitted on her DEBUT stream that she just joined in for ez money
They all joined for the payday you fucking idiot.

>> No.13848738

>>13844080
I’ve asked this question a few times but I think it’s even more relevant now — how close are we to market saturation? Will they keep releasing new gens even if they just end up poaching the same viewers from prior gens?

>> No.13848743

Weebshit. Doesn't really appeal to anyone else.

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>> No.13848954

>>13845443
Preferring Council over anything is what shit taste is about. Council is bad even when compared to vshoujo.

>> No.13849035

>>13848578
No fucking shit Sherlock. It's just the others are at least a bit more subtle with their mental manipulation. It's free entertainment at the end of the day for me but I guess the cucks that would actually spend money on her would appreciate the transparency, much like Nakirigumis.

>> No.13849076

>>13846665
They are way better than EN2 (this is not hard at all) and really good compared to main branch. It’s clear JP scouting is miles better than EN scouting.

>> No.13849373

>>13844902
Poaching is part of scouting, if necessary.

>> No.13849640

Another JP branch that I'll only see in clips or collabs with EN members. I wish them the best.

>> No.13849757

>>13849076
Japan literally has trade schools that train women to be cute anime girls.

>> No.13849774

>>13844080
Most popular
>cunny
2nd best
>gura eater
Middle man
>pink cat
4th place
>gozaru
Last spot
>red head

>> No.13849814

>>13849774
>gura eater
Yuri doujins when.

>> No.13849830

>>13849076
Please enlighten me on what is it about coyote girl, degozaru and hag bird that screams quality to you. As far as I can tell, they got 2 hits and 3 misses this gen. Hardly any better than Council.

>> No.13849893

>>13844080
What is this shit?

>> No.13850039

>>13849814
cant wait for some steamy hag on cunny.

>> No.13850041

>>13849757
Please be a joke.

>> No.13850141

>>13844080
Tomboy hag is my favorite

>> No.13850356

>>13850041
No, community colleges and tech schools in Japan offer programs in learning how to get into anime and related industries. For people with voice acting talent, that means theater-type classes on how to talk like anime and video game characters with as much range as possible.

>> No.13853331

>>13844080
La+ will thrive and will be the first to hit 1m next year.
Temporarily masked girl will do good.
Hawk girl is going to be somewhat saved thanks to being a bird. As soon as Mumei gets a 3D model and all three non-JPs can freely travel to Japan again; I expect they'll milk Holotori hard. I'm seeing merch, a group song, 3D lives.
The other two are doomed to stay in the lower half.

>> No.13853428

>>13844146
>council exist

>> No.13853632

>>13844080
Going through Pixiv, holy shit is there a lot of La+ porn

>> No.13854848

>>13844080
yamada > koyori > chloe(forma de mask) > lui > chloe >>>>> okita

>> No.13855438

>>13844080
Potentially the best gen we've had since 3rd, but time will tell.

>> No.13855575

>>13844080
Do any of them speak a word of English? If they only speak Japanese, they’re absolutely irrelevant.

>> No.13856182

>>13848473
What would you prefer if you had to choose? An upfront gold digger or a deceitful one?

>> No.13856243

La+ is based
Chloe fucked up taking the mask off

I don't care about anyone else

>> No.13856252

>>13844080

Loli > orca > dog >>>> meh > meh

3/5 is still very good. Probably the strongest gen in entire Hololive debut wise.

>> No.13856611

>>13845604
Nijis love this gen only people hating them are butthurt holoEN faggots.

>> No.13857098

>>13844080
Might be the strongest gen yet. Hard to say if they can beat sankisei, but very good so far.
La+ and Chloe especially are absolutely amazing and Koyori is super good too.

Then you look at the other gen we recently got (Council) and wonder what the hell is up with EN scouts or if it's just a lack of diamonds left to pick for them in the western sphere.

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>>13844248
>>pink cat bad
My man, i hate her so much, it's unreal... to the point i want to hate fuck her.

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>>13845073
Based low-expecting chad.

>> No.13858171

Requesting rrats, rratmans

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>>13844080
PonX

>> No.13861137

>>13849830
They all seem to have goals and passion for streaming which will eventually translate into enjoyable, consistent content.
The other ones are in just to do the bare minimum and get cash. HoloX has soul and Council does not. Simple as.

>> No.13861185

>>13855575
EOPchama, I can’t even…

>> No.13861347

>>13844080
I love all of them.

- Laplus is so fucking cute. Literally a little anime character imouto.
- Chloe is super cute Orca girl with smol voice. Very entertaining and sweet.
- Koyori is so hyper and also very cute. Seems really energetic and smart.
- Iroha is calm and mature, but does little cute things as she talks and streams.
- Lui has big senpai/onee-san vibes and seems really cool.

>> No.13861430

>>13861347
Council was so absurdly bad that I had zero expectations on HoloX, but oh shit the japs do deliver.

>> No.13861472

>>13847614
Are you me?

>> No.13862030

>>13861430
council is great what are you on about

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>>13862030
>great
rumao

>> No.13862105

Yamada had the funniest zatsu I've seen in a while, very reminiscent of Marine's style
She definitely can go far

>> No.13862243

>>13862030
Council already looked weak compared to Myth. Holo X just put them deeper in the hole.

>> No.13862346

>>13862243
Before Gen 6 I thought Myth was just a miracle gen that made everyone else look bad in comparison, but now its clear that Council was simply boring and talentless.

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>>13862030
>council is great

>> No.13862741

>>13844080
They're ok I just hope their models aren't the new norm

>> No.13862825

>>13862346
Yes. If Council had been gen1, HoloeEN would have withered on the vine.

>> No.13864858

>>13862741
why?

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My shitty rubric. Overall, pretty good. Better than Gen 5.

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>>13847424
Society seems to take a lot of cues from Council, but is like a much more polished version of the Council without the stuff that hobbled the council early on/no opportunity for dox rrats to develop. So it's probably the case that council was merely a prototype, a sandbox to try out the ideas. I mean council has their council meetings, seems inevitable that Society- being a 'secret society'- will probably have their own society meetings too.

>> No.13866018

>>13844902
>implying you can poach 2views

Broadly speaking this is also why big companies tend to dominate unless they fuck up bad (like most american tech companies tanking their salaries with diversity quota shit) because big companies can find the star from a small company that could be a Pekora in Hololive, but would be a 3views at best in their little company.

>> No.13866312

Reddit fags are having a shitshow over La+

>> No.13866345

>Crying on Twitter about getting Susan'd when it happens to literally every Holo debut because of the sheer brand popularity.
>Doing this despite the fact that even with Susan purposefully debuffing you, you're still outperforming months-old chuubas just by showing up.
>Asking your audience less than 5 minutes into your debut to go make you #1 Trending on Twitter (a platform you're currently locked out of anyway).
I'm sure they'll be fine and they'll grow on me, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth to see blatant numberfaggotry so early. Shit sounded like they were reading translated /#/ concern troll posts.

>> No.13866549

>>13866345
That part pissed you off but not that she only sort of watched Hololive clips? I don't care about numberfagging when part of her roleplay is being a brat, not caring for Hololive left a much worse taste in my mouth. I have a lot of respect and love for the members who wanted to join because they cared about the group and people at Hololive and not about the fame.

>> No.13867102

>>13866549
That didn't bother me because there is a non-zero chance that Cover intentionally avoided prospective hires that are serious Hololive fans. There's a variety of good reasons to avoid people that are huge fans of their prospective coworkers, or at least avoid entirely hiring that. And frankly? Anybody trying to stream seriously while staying fed probably doesn't have time to watch much more than clips.

>> No.13867172

>>13844080
I haven't watched La+, I don't watch lol Loli vtubers
Lui seems chill and a dork, interesting choice of game to start her channel
I didn't rewatch the pink coyote girl, not interested either
Chloe might be the singer of her gen, cute design too. Not sure how will she do with games
Iroha is the one I chose as my favorite of the gen. Although her way to speak might be slightly annoying, and highlighting FF (which I dislike), I'll go through everything to support her.

>> No.13867508

>>13865938
ID and EN are the experimental branches for JP.

Like the Ultimate universe is to the main universe in Marvel Comics.

>> No.13867760

>>13867508
The EN and ID threads are absolute cancer and attract the most annoying kind of red ditors so I wish this "experiment" had never taken place.

>> No.13867810

>>13866345
Laplus is great because I can already tell she's going to make schizos and faggots lose their minds.

>> No.13867960

>>13867508
Sadly this is true in some way...I hope Council girls wont be depressed or feel pressure because of the new gen sudden unexpected overwhelming debut...

>> No.13868036

I subbed to La+ and Koyori
Gonna have to see more of the Orca before I sub.

Not really feeling the other two.

>> No.13868077

>>13866549
She can imitate Marine on demand so she knows more than enough
https://youtu.be/ahLvRAODNpY

>> No.13868435

>>13868077
Her Marine impression is not up to the usual standards of Hololive's Marine impressions.

>> No.13876529

>>13844123
FPMostReasonableP

>> No.13876728

>>13844080
probably good people but varying degrees of boring. completely kneecapped the most visually interesting one by taking off the mask. cunny demon has really shitty looking horns.

>> No.13878039

>>13844146
Anon they didn't even intend to bring out an entire generation. These girls all applied to be VSinger JP which is why they all released songs and are pretty good singing talent. Cover just realized they had enough talent on their hands that it would be better to bring them all on instead of only selecting 2. It was extremely sus that they suddenly cancelled VSinger claiming there was no talent that matched what they were looking for.

>> No.13878569

>>13844451
>Im an EOP

>> No.13878682

>>13844080
They copied Nijisanji but the pink coyote is okay I guess

>> No.13878905

>>13844080
The loli darkness will rise up in hololive easily

>> No.13878964

In order from most to least favorite:

Laplus is perfection incarnate. Incredible character work. Adorable voice that fits her design perfectly. She even turns her shortcomings into cute bits. I love her so much its unreal.

Chloe I think will probably be the most popular in the long run. Her cute engrish and singing voice is too strong for her not to be. Her personality kind of gets on my nerves though, and I get the feeling she'll rub a lot of her senpai the wrong way as well. She seems weirdly confrontational in a passive aggressive way. May just be character work being interpreted the wrong way, but something feels off.

Coyote also has incredible character work. She portrays herself as smart as she's supposed to be, and is so far pulling it off and using it to bounce off the others really well. Not quite my type, but she'll do well.

Lui is a great supporting character as a motherlike figure, but I don't see her gaining a really strong following on her own. She plays really well with Laplus especially.

Iroha is going to have a hard time. She was the last to go and made the weakest first impression. I also think she has the weakest design. Hopefully she has a strong skill hidden away to make up for it.

>> No.13879618

>>13867172
>I don't watch loli vtubers
As of this moment I've decided to counter your existence by watching exclusively loli vtubers.

>> No.13879783

>>13848743
What do you think Hololive is?

>> No.13879866

>>13878964
Pretty much agree with all this. Coyote is my favorite though, because she is my type of chuuba.

>> No.13882384

>>13862030
>council is great
RUMAO

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>>13844080
>Yamada
Plays her character well, seems to be genuinely enjoying it. Has a naturally entertaining personality, so even if she didn't have the whole cunny thing she would still would be fun to watch.

>Lui
Will make a great tsukkomi. Not gonna have huge numbers, but will have her own niche. Also great sense of humor.

>Pink cat
Fake as fuck. Probably lights one up as soon as steam is over, laughing all the way to the bank at her paypigs. People call her blue Lamy, but the comparison really ends with having a chill voice, strong single color theme and a dull debut stream. Lamy is actually a nice person, while this one seems like a huge cunt off stream.

>Orca
Let's see if her whole cute pon uwu ^__^ shtick will last. She really seems like she's forcing it too much. Still going to be popular as fuck regardless.

>Gozaru
Nothing to say really. Grats on getting a PC for free I guess.

2/5 alcoholic sluts.

>> No.13885312

La+ is a numberfag but it's going to do great.
Chloe is another numberfag but she could do well.
The other 3 are really forgettable middle-tier chuubas but at least all know how to sing, I guess.
The people talking today about them being better than Gen 3 are under immense dosis of copium.
We'll see if they find their path like Gen 5 or not in a few months.

>> No.13885765

if YMD keeps her wagahai loli thing going (her first zatsu was pretty good) she will probably zoom hard. Chloe seems to be the general favorite other than her. I think Lui and Koyori are going to be lower but have pretty devoted fans. Okita...who knows. Maybe she'll end up being the late bloomer with creativity or join the Flare harem and play minecra 8 hours a day.

>> No.13885820

>>13844080
Lolis shall inherit the earth confirmed

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