/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1382907
I will cockslap you bitch, she's nice

You just described Korone, Coco and the majority of HoloEN (minus Kiara and Watson, whose designs are also bad).

>1382973
do not reply to bait posts

>>1382907
Dumb faggot stop self-promoting. Nobody wants to watch your shitty channel.
>1382973
Not even worth a (You). Kill yourself.

>>1382907
>One of the 10% of wester vtubers with an actually good personality
ogey

>>1382907
She's one of those "you likes loli? You're pedo!" bitches

>>1383032
Instantly dropped

>>1383032
Aaand instantly on my shitlist.

Loli is culture.

>>1383032
Imagine shilling this whore, kek
It's just another artumis tier faggotry

>>1383032
What's the argument she's trying to make here? Loli/shota has existed long before the CP ban and has continued to exist.

>>1382907
>roastie
go back to /r9k/

>>1383032
I can't believe that I was gonna hop in this thread to defend her and call OP a faggot. Looks like you were saved by my love for cunny OP.

I like the moth.

>>1383084
Anon, this is the virtual GFE board. Who do you think is the target audience?

>>1383079
Probably trying to argue that drawings are the same as real life.

In that case we better lock up people who draw violent imagery, 'cause lord knows they could be actual murderers!

>>1383079
It's your regular sjw trying to virtue signal on twitter

>>1383032
I'm not even going to give her a chance anymore

>>1383155
Then why bring up the CP ban? It only highlights the fact that if you're cool with 2D cunny then Japan agrees with you.

>>1383032
Every time this gets brought up I feel a need to remind everyone that her model is ripped off from a oneeshota monster girl rape doujin. Wonder how the original artist feels about her ripping off his design and then using it to shit on Japanese culture.

>>1383212
Kek, what's up with western Vtubers being massive hypocrites?

>>1383032
>>1383212
this is actually leagues more hypocritical than nyanners

>>1383212
I might fap to this if the design doesn't have that skeleton arms

>>1383032
You actually made me go and check if it's true, looks too much like the type of copy pasta one would fuck around with. It's real.
I don't get weebs who try to claim moral highgrounds. Generally society thinks she a degenerate and shuns her interests, finding them socially unacceptable. It doesn't matter if she goes to the streets of Tokyo or New York, unless she's in some kind of a containment zone (Akihibara or conventions) the general person she'll meet would find her repugnant.
You're already at the absolute bottom of the barrel, why try to trybalfag the few people that might be interested in you.

>>1383032
>>1383212
The duality of western whore.
This is literally your mind on american politics

>>1382907
Good design? What kind of insect only has 3 arms?

>design wasted
Didn't she made it herself? What do you want her to do, sell it to somebody?
>roastie
It must be hard watching vtubers with unironical incel mindset. Just stick to Hololive

>>1383259
>the general person she'll meet would find her repugnant
Anon, she's a female. The same rules don't apply.

>>1383257
They're not skeleton arms they're fuzzy and soft moth arms.
>>1383306
She ripped it off from someone else, now that she's used it it's tainted so no one else can use a similar moth girl model. That's a fucking waste.

>>1382907
ITT people who're too dumb to understand that she made and rig it herself

>>1383212
>>1383333

>>1383333
>She ripped it off from someone else
Oh wow it not like anyone else ever in the history of the world made a moth girl that look like that

>>1383333
That didn't stop walmart Korone and Artemis and probably some others. If they are truly good vtubers they'll get away with being a second moth vtuber

>>1383312
I've seen too many female weebs being told to fuck off, to believe their standing is that much better. Better than the fat smelly otaku, but hardly much better. Bottom of the ladder for women.

>>1383365
Look up Solopipb/Sakekan Memorial on exh
>>1383372
I challenge you to find someone else who did it before Solopipb. He's been drawing monstergirls for years and this doujin series was very well known when it came out. That's what inspired all the current mothgirl designs. Before him mothgirls were nonexistent.

>>1383413
In that case this 10000% ripping off Solopipb because it a mothgirl

>>1383499
You're dumb

>>1382907
Oh boo hoo you can't coom over a moth girl you coomer

>>1383535
You said Solopipb inspired all the current mothgirl designs mean it ripped off Solopipb

>>1383032
I hate pedophiles and child groomers. Have never had an issue with loli content before and never will.
Fuck this roastie.

>>1383578
I can and I will.
The problem is after than there isn't much to be entertained by.

>1383578
>coomer
Not even worth giving it a (you) but go back and neck yourself.

>>1383499
Anon those designs don't look alike at all. Unlike the one in the OP and Mashiro who look pretty much identical to a degree that Solopipb should consider suing.

>>1383032
Even the Doujin she ripoff have cunny

>>1383212
With a loli in it

Maybe that's why she is against Loli/shots, she afraid of the competition of a loli moth vt

>>1383696
She even ripped off the mothgirl having a larva form jesus.

>>1383696
If she was a vtuber and had another pair of arms moth loli would be my oshi.

>>1383746
Someone should do this and then make Juniper have a meltdown when the moth loli is more popular than her and everyone's calling her design a ripoff of the mothloli.

I really like her personality, but I also like lolis, and I won't kermit sudoku.
It's just her opinion, I see no reason to hate someone who sees the world in a way that's not mine.
She's a good streamer, and I will continue to follow her.

>>1383786
You understand she's insanely popular, right? 30-50k views on her twitch vods.

>>1383032
I don't even like lolis but this still makes me dislike her. I guess it's just a tribal thing at this point.

>>1383803
>I see no reason to hate someone who sees the world in a way thats not mine
Normally I'd agree with you anon but when she's telling you to kill yourself for having a different opinion I don't think anyone would be in the wrong for wanting her to go away.

If she just didn't like loli/shota that'd be totally fine, but telling lolicons they're pedophiles and to kill themselves is basically saying she doesn't see you as human, how can you respect that?

>>1382907
I mean, she made the design, so even if she had no personality that design wouldnt exist without her.

>>1382907
Is this thread made up of two anons who just samefaging

>>1383248
'ate juniper
luv hime
simple as.

There aren't enough insect Vtubers.

>>1383882
copied the design, you mean ?

>>1383888
It's just you and me, Anon.

>>1383882
She didn't make the design though. She just adapted someone else's design the same way Tokyo Ghoul adapted his design from Tokyo Ghoul. Without them someone else could've done the same if they wanted to.

>>1383852
Because this is the internet, everyone tends to hyper his/her opinion just to be more impactful.

Kek, these shills trying so hard to ignore >>1383032 by pretending to have discussion bout her design

>>1383803
I value cunny above all else anon-kun, I'm sorry.

>>1383937
By telling innocent people to kill themselves?

>>1383937
Isn't that on her to apologize for her offensive comments though? I may like her design but I won't support someone who hates me and my race. Have some principles anon.

>>1383032
And dropped. The ghetto nigger talk was a red flag, but this seals it. Bet you she's into traps, and the only ones that pull it off in drawings are young boys.

>>1383972
>apologize for her offensive comments
>who hates me and my race
It as if I'm reading twitter. Have some tougher skin

>>1383032
>>1383852
She didn't just tell anon to kill himself, she told Pikamee to kill herself.
I am going to zap this bug.

>>1383032

>>1382907
Isn't there some sort of copyright law against tubers blatantly ripping off that porn moth design to get money out of it?

>>1383852
you're really that bothered over someone telling people to kill themselves over the internet?
on here?
of all places?
really, nigger?
kill yourself

>>1384027
>being such a cuck you tolerate people discriminating against you because it'd be uncool to stand up to the normies bullying you
lmao your school life must've been really sad anon

>>1383032
How disappointing

>>1384067
It's not the same when you do it anon, I know you don't mean it. When normies tell someone to kill themselves they 100% mean it.

>>1384067
Unlike you, she's not joking, she really meant it though

>>1384094
OH SO NOW I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH?

>>1384042
Pikamee is not just lolicon though, she probably wants to touch real kiddy

>>1384128
No, anon usually people in this place take everything less serious

>>1383032
>kermit sulfide
What the fuck is wrong with people talking like this? Are they trying to avoid some word filter to did average IQ already dropped to room temperature levels and they can only communicate with memes?

>>1384069
>hating lolicons is discrimination
I must be missing something, otherwise you are overreacting

>>1384240
You don't want the algorithm to fuck you over.
Not even when you're moralfagging.

>>1384261
kind of ironic

>>1384144
She said she has a strict "look, don't touch" policy.

>>1384250
hating someone and wanting them to die are different things anon.

for example not liking blacks is one thing. you'll be a racist but most black people will just avoid you, it's not like you're a threat.
but wanting to exterminate them makes you an enemy to them.

>>1383032
wow, what a bitch

>>1383032
crossed, not even a chance now

>>1384298
She still want to touch them, and it's not count as touching if you wear gloves

>>1384144
Wish I could hang out with Pikamee, then.

>>1384299
"kermit suicide" is not exactly a "Final solution to a lolicon question". Sorry m8, I still think you are overreacting.

I followed her because shes a good artist but fuck her opinions

>>1382907
> design wasted
how is it wasted when she's the one who made it lol

>>1383937
ok, then , how do you explain this >>1383212
?
Coincidence ? Mere inspiration ? Nevermind the kill yourself, she's at the very least an hypocrite which is in itself reason enough to call her out.

>>1384042
She told Pikame and Carl to kill themselves, this bitch got to go.

>>1384485
Read the fucking thread retard she copied it off a shota rape doujin.

>>1384485
>>1383882
>>1383306
Samefag

Im gonna make some bad art of her raping a shota

>>1383337
>>1383882
>>1384485
>reading comprehension

>>1384523
Oh yeah, i don't care.

>>1384568
Here, pic related.

>>1384589
How much did she pays you?

>>1384589
She'll never fuck you, virgin.

>>1384523
>copied
That's not true.
More like was heavily inspired by

>>1384645
>Claims to hate loli/shota and tells people who like it to kill themselves
>Design "heavily inspired by" a shota rape doujin
That doesn't sound any better anon, she's still both a thief and a hypocrite.

>>1384622
about tree fiddy

>>1384569
Don't forget to clarify the shota age, make sure he scream his age and telling her shotacon should kill themselves

>>1383212
Devil's advocate:
If They're both ermine moths, how different could you make them?

>>1384569
>>1384682
"No! Stop! I'm only 9!"

>>1384767
Isn't she a Juniper moth?

>>1382907
There will be other moth tubers anon.

If anything, you could sponsor your own indie and get someone a good avatar for them

>>1384769
>>1384682
any other ideas?

>>1384780
Her description says Luna moth.

>>1384682
>>1384569
Also make him scream her name
"Please Mrs. Juniper, don't rape me, I'm a children"

>>1384807
Give her a dick and make it bulge through the shota's stomach while she says "SHOTA FUCK SHOTA FUCK ITS AWWRIIIIGHT"

>>1384811
>>1384780
She doesn't look like either of those though...

I though ermine because of the antennae

>>1384833
sorry but I dont like insect girls with dicks
unless theres eggs involved

>>1384868
That's a good idea anon fill the shota with eggs until he bursts and make sure it's clear Juniper killed him with her huge insect dick and lust for shotas.

>>1384824
>she's so degenerate that she rapes MULTIPLE children at once
I like your thinking.

>>1384884
Don't make her cute, make her ugly and evil

>>1384868
>unless theres eggs involved
give her an ovipositor instead

>>1383032
We must not take based Pochi for granted, fellas

>>1384807
The shota has bruises and a black eye.

>>1384833
>SHOTA FUCK SHOTA FUCK ITS AWWRIIIIGHT

A classic.

>>1383032
https://twitter.com/Egocider/status/1369701782360756233

>>1384940
>Backpedalling because you wanna fit in with the audience you used to shit on
Yup, she'd get along with pink cat swimmingly

>>1384940
>changes her opinion as soon as she is publicly called out

>>1384940
>>1385008
At least she backpeddled somewhat tastefully, rather than doubling down.

She's just going to end up like Froot and Nyanners, basically unscathed. People are going to forget about all this and just lick her shithole in a couple of weeks time. Public personas like her make me sick.

>>1383212
>culture

>>1385008
>>1385037
>>1385057
>>1385119
>Noooooooooo you can't say you hate something you need to love everything i do because you're evil be because i said so

>>1385057
It's not really tasteful, she didn't even apologize or say she changed her views. She just said "I don't actually care anymore" because now it directly affects her income to be as "neutral" as possible.

It's just very calculated and transparently shitty. She could easily have just said "I'm sorry" and gave an earnest response about how she's grown and learned to respect other people's fetishes etc but she can't even do that much.

>>1385130
Weak strawman
It's okay to criticize and not support hypocrites
You forgot your wojak btw

>>1385130
Who are you quoting?

>>1385152
>earnest response about how she's grown and learned to respect other people
That's the most corporate response imaginable.

>>1385191
Okay NPC

>>1385191
It's actually so easy to write a proper apology when you get "cancelled." Nobody really cares if you just say sorry and point out how you were wrong and how you've changed.

The fact celebrities and content creators always double down or give some canned "I'm sorry you feel that way" response to completely dismiss criticism is why they get cancelled.

>>1385057
A tasteful return to form would be to say "I don't give a shit about that anymore" then retweet some loli art or something to prove it, this is just awkward backpeddling and obviously driven by her desire to be a "public figure" and nothing else

>>1382907
For some reason I feel like the Japs haven't been putting out as innovative ideas as they were near the beginning of the scene, and since westerners love their gimmicky shit it kind of feels like they're starting to fill in that hole. 2 cons to that though is that
1. They're western
2. They're boring and hardly make good use out of their gimmick

>>1383032

Actual trash

>>1384940
disgusting backpedal and damage control
fuck this roastie

>>1383032
>(on break)
Please stay there

>>1385105
I know some anons are tired of /jp/ autism, but /vt/ could use more gatekeeping in some areas.

I love 4chan.
Everyone hates everything for no fucking reason.
But most of you will end up subscribing to her channel anyway.

>>1385598
lol literally sjw cancel culture

40 mins in mspaint for future threads. Fuck these hypocrites

>>1385855
She's not much different since she shit talked Kyutto (tweet now deleted). What was that saying, "Don't do unto others what you don't want done unto you"? Yeah, should''ve think twice before sperging about another vtuber because they went against the "western standards".

>>1385784
>you will end up subscribing
Absolutely fucking wrong, I’ll go back to fap to moth girl doujins and hope a nip insect vtuber comes out.

>>1382973
This. Fags with yellow fever need to stay in /jp/ where they belong.

>>1385784

>>1383032
Nah

who the fuck is this anyway. every amerimutt indie vtuber on this board is a literal irrelevant nobody and actually fucking boring.

>>1385893
>tries hard
>does her best
>some autists dig up shit from years ago to ruin her career
Do we really have to?

>>1384569

>>1386449
Absolutely. Fuck these people, they deserve all the hatred they get.

>>1386449
>>does her best
which isn't much

>>1386449

The latest tweet isn't even from ONE whole year ago.

>>1386449
No one's 'ruining her career', her turncoat behavior is a fair point of discussion on this board

>>1386496
Bueno

>>1383032
Are you not a pedo? Ignoring the "drawing vs. reality" debate, do you not have to be a pedo to enjoy loli, is that not its target audience?

>>1386712
>Are you not a mass murdering psychopath? Ignoring the "drawing vs. reality" debate, do you not have to be a murderer to enjoy games like DOOM, is that not its target audience?
This is you.

>>1386449
Do autists outside here even care?

>>1386449
>years ago
Just because she's hiding her retarded opinions now doesn't mean she's not still a cunt.

>>1386822
So are you jerking off to it, or not?

>>1386712
All snakes are reptiles but not all reptiles are snake, etc. People can enjoy lolis without jerking off to them. You can hate if you want but wishing for their death as a public figure and then backpedalling because money is a different story. Especially when your model is ripped from a shota fest.

>>1386880
I jerk off to them but I'm still not a pedo.

>>1386861
Not him, but you don't have to jerk off to loli to find this "likes loli=pedophile" narrative retarded.

>>1386712
No.
Why are you even here? Your oshi is probably a lolicon too.

>>1385893
Tweet it at her and see if she responds to the accusation she ripped off solopipb or just blocks you lmao.

>>1383032
Unfathomably based. Lot of angry pedos in this thread.

>>1382907
oh look another OP crying about western Vtubers not comforting to their shitty cutesy idol imagination.
Fuck off, please. You're not welcomed.

>>1386712
Loli is extremely popular with both women and men in Japan. If you're really calling an entire nation of people pedophiles then kermit sulfide.

>>1386980
>oh look
Go back

>>1386980
>>>/reddit/

>>1386712
I regularly rub one out to loli stuff but I'm not even remotely a pedophile. Real children revolt me.

>>1382973
This

>>1386928
Well being sexually aroused by children is the very definition of pedophile, down to the name. The fact you wouldnt do it or never had the chance with 3D lolis doesnt change that fact. You just have common sense.

>mfw /vt/ards act exactly like bugs when their feelings get hurt

>>1387047
>being sexually aroused by children
I'm not though. I'm sexually aroused by drawings.

>>1387019
You masterbate to drawings of children, you are absolutely a pedo

>>1383032
>>1383248
Pink cat good
Moth girl bad

>>1386980
I don't want a moth monster to be cutesy or idollike. I am just disappointed to see this model being wasted on a basic ass "girl streamer" personality

>>1387087
Wow I killed a man in GTA, I'm a murderer now.

>>1387047
What about those who self-insert as the loli? Doesn't really fit into your narrow worldview of trying to compare art to real life.

>>1387126
I still haven't seen any counterpoint to this other than "no, it's different"

>>1387066
come on, now anon. I'm not judging since ppl cant really control what makes their dicks hard. But there's a reason those specific drawings arouse you. Its one thing to love lolis because they're cute and you want to pat and hug them, its another to jerk off. Its okay.

>>1387114
This.
I might as well open up any twitch thot on another tab and look at a picture of a moth girl in the meantime.

>>1387184
You have you're just ignoring it.
A drawing of a child is not a child, our brains can tell the difference between a highly-stylised drawing of something and the real thing.

>>1386980
"You're not welcome here"
go back to twitter.

>>1387184
One is a drawing and fictional, the other is not.

>>1387203
Most lolis are just hyper-idealized versions of real kids, this is why a lot of lolicon and shotacon fags don't find (most) real kids sexually appealing
It's like dudes who like 2d males sexually but find real ones disgusting
Technically it's pedophilia but it's not, technically it's gay but it's not

>>1383999
>Bet you she's into traps, and the only ones that pull it off in drawings are young boys.
>Bet you she's into traps
lel anon, that's such a stretch

>>1387129
anon said he jerks off to them, as in lolis. Why are you so triggered by simple common logic ? You could jerk off to dead babies for all I care, I wouldn't think less of you. Let's not play with words.
If you self insert as the loli it would indeed not make you a pedophile.

>>1387405
That is an argument for why loli/shota should not be criminalized, but it is not an argument for why its fans should escape the "pedophile" classification.

>>1387418

It's technically pedophilia the same way playing gta games technically make you a mass murderer.

>>1387470
>>1387212

>>1383032
>Likes monster girls
>Which is kinda like animals/insect fucking
But it's just drawings so who cares right?
>Loli stuff (just a drawing)
>FUCK YOU PEDO
Do westerners really?

>>1387203
It's straight up by definition not pedophilia as pedophilia is a sexual attraction to children. Drawings are not children and the anatomy/body type of "lolis" varies immensely depending on the artist's style or the specific fetish being catered to. Are the pudgey potato lolis like Lalafels resembling real life children? Are the thin petite lolis like Takagi-san resembling real life children? Are oppai lolis resembling real life children? Are monster girl lolis resembling real life children? What part of a loli's anatomy makes them resemble a real life child? Is it their height? Is it their proportions? Is it their age? Does it make someone a pedophile for liking any one of those things but not the others? It's just a completely nonsensical stance rooted in having a black/white worldview, often from people who've never taken the 5 minutes to actually ponder the thought and just mindlessly follow the default mode of thinking that gets repeated by normies.

>>1383032
I bet she has kids, it takes being enslaved by your own hormones and parent instincts to shit out a post like this.

>>1383032
still better than nyanners though because she at least is consistent.

>>1387503
My point is in WHY people find hyper-idealized 2d kids sexually appealing, and it's because they like hyper-idealized kids which is technically pedophilia
Jerking off to a loli is way ore direct than killing someone in an FPS is
You play FPS because FPS is fun for other reasons outside of killing people, whereas you jack off to loli because you like hyper-idealized 2d kids

>>1387470
Same reason why people who like SAW movies shouldn't be labelled as psychotic torturers.

>>1387462
What if you just like girls that are really short and flat, ie petite? Does that make you a pedophile? Keep in mind you've never actually shown that lolis are comparable to real life children, you just asserted it as your own opinion. If someone just likes the body type without any regard for their age or maturity then they can't really be called a pedophile. Can't really attach those things to a drawing, it's all arbitrary and based on your own interpretation of the art.

>>1383248
No? Complaining about loli while baiting lolicons with your model and voice acting is a lot more hypocritial than complaining about loli and being a moth girl that looks like another moth girl.

>>1386449
If she didn't use a mothgirl avatar no one would care. She could've tried to act like character in the doujin but instead ruined the design forever. Fuck her.

>>1387462
The 2d trap case is a little different imo, you are actively seeking out that content for the thrill and novelty of the penis so since that's the draw it's a little gay.

>>1387665
Her model is stolen from a literal shota rape doujin though.

>>1387054
When Ina or Kiara get a boyfriend the real shitstorm begins.

>>1387101
kill yourself

Guys, I like midgets like Tiny Texie and Mini Stallion. Does that make me a pedo?

Well, as long as we all acknowledge that Juniper:
a. Did a disingenious backtracking on her previous statements, and
b. seems to have borrowed her character design from the very thing she has previously harshly criticized

>>1386712
Loli/Shota fags are pedos in denial. They're suprisingly common

Here is a real question to get your noggin jogging.

If a child were to wear a wig and a mask and present themselves as another child by fake name, would you be a pedophile for jerking off to the child's performance? The child you jerked off to would have been a fictional persona, and therefore not real.

>>1387714
There are like a billion similar characters. It's not a very unique design.
And even IF that specific moth girl was the inspiration, it's still not quite the same level of hypocricy as Nyanners, who literally plays loli eroge, has a loli model and does loli voices while saying lewd shit. Does moth girl even do lewd content?

>>1383032
So she's based and correct? I know this is a pedo hugbox, but you guys know deep down loli is pedophilic. Imagine trying to explain it to your mom, that is all you need to even think about.

So, is she into shota or not then? This is the real question here.

I watched her archive for a bit and I gotta admit that despite her personality not matching her model, she has a good taste and is generally likable, moralfagging aside

>>1386712
This may have been true if they actually looked like 3D children and not petite 20 year olds.

>>1387798
It's not an either/or thing anon, they're both hypocrites. ENVtubers are a shitshow of hypocritical grifters that have nothing but complete contempt for their fans.

>>1387786
Are you pretending to be retarded

>>1387568
This is a 100% cope for no reason. There's absolutely nothing wrong with unusual fetishes and kinks when it comes to the realms of art. What makes it pedophilia is one or all of the examples you gave. I know the label have a shitty reputation because of the disgusting people actually going after 3D lolis which bring forth all sort of terrible things for the child. Jerking off to a drawing is harmless: it's just a kink and it's perfectly fine. But that's still being sexually aroused by children be it age, shape or form.
I personally love mind control and rape doujins. You can rub it in my face but I won't deny what I am. Come on now.

>>1387786
You cannot jerk off to a child because all our perceptions of the outside world are simulations created in our brain. Nobody can ever directly perceive the child itself, but rather only his own brain's idea of a child inspired by various external stimuli. Whenever you fap, you fap to your own ideas. Fapping alone should therefore never be bad, only touching and licking and penetrating.

>>1387801
My mom saw one of my Shimakaze figures and thought she was "cute" then asked me to give her one of my nendoroids to display on her desk at work because it looked cute.

Sorry your mom hates you anon.

>>1385410
Sheer glut of JP vtubers on reddit showing off their boring designs indicates "if there is smoke, there is fire".

>>1387786
That's retarded because there's still a real child involved.

>>1387814
Some of them look like short skinny adult girls, they have tapered waists and slightly flared hips for example. But a lot are drawn with bulging tummies and childlike fat distributions, and those are honestly a bit disturbing. Not going to tell people who like that to kermit sodoku or anything, as they are using a harmless outlet for their desires but I will not believe they aren't real pedos.

>>1387616
In all fairness I probably wouldn't let my kids go near a lolicon despite knowing they probably won't do anything.

>>1387822
There are nuances and subtleties that need to be considered which cannot be easily divided into simple categories. Time spent in understanding and studying a foe is always time well spent, and absolutist categories may distort our understanding. We need to introduce shades of grey into the picture in order to disginguish minor nuisances from existential threats.
Nyanners is the epitome of what's wrong with Western Vtubers. Moth girl just seems like a regular Western chick. In fact, I bet that a lot of the all time favorites on this board privately have similar views but just do not voice them in order to not alienate anybody.

>>1387733
Yes anon. They look like children so it's pedo U_U

>>1387876
A little licking should be allowed imo.

>>1387995
Licking is going a bit too far but I honestly see no reason why children should not be allowed to sell their underwear, bath water, saliva, pee and objects they have put into themselves.

>>1387973
:(

>>1387875
>I personally love mind control and rape doujins.
W-Well it's not rape, it's only a projection of your own perception of what it is to be raped since it's just a drawing bro. The girl is screaming for help, crying and bleeding but she's actually from a world where that's how a couple make love normally so.. so it's morally okay now. P-please don't look !

>>1388033
Vile, absolutely vile.

>>1387875
I'm telling you though that a very large subset of loli/shota fans have no interest in children, and it's not due to the legality. The things that make loli/shota appealing just don't apply to real life children. You'll never find a real life child that looks like a lalafel or harvin. They have closer proportions to midgets than children. You'll also never find a lolibaba or oppai loli in real life. There's just so much diversity in the genre that isn't comparable to children at all.

I know a lot of lolicons are also pedophiles, and many of them are very vocal about their attraction to real children or have a reputation for getting caught stalking children at Japanese elementary schools and parks, but that's painting with a very broad brush to assume all lolicons are into that. You can often tell when you encounter them though, because they're obsessed with "realism" and religiously follow artists that trace their art from real children. Lolicon artists wouldn't get blacklisted for doing that if it was just an excuse for pedophilia.

It's not even out of shame, I don't care if someone is a pedophile since I'm not a kid and I don't have kids. I just think it's important to make clear lolicons are much more diverse in their tastes than just being attracted to cartoon children. The genre is developed enough to be pretty far removed from real life, as is most anime. It's not like Japanese girls in real life have red or pink or green or blonde hair, and yet nobody is going around claiming those characters are just an analogue for white people except fucking retards who have only watched like 2 anime in their lives.

Can rape doujins exist? By definition rape requires penetration, and being only drawing, no rape can take place...

>>1388033
nah, as long as real children are involved in anything sexual, they will be exploited, be it child porn or selling underwear

>>1388078
So you think most women who have rape fantasies actually have a desire to be raped in real life

really weird seeing the one simp in here try to nicely talk everyone down while more or less ignoring what made everyone mad at her
>>1387786
did your noggin jog into traffic before coming up with this scenario

>>1388169
Maybe he's expecting future threads will go better if he torpedoes the discussion in this one

>>1388133
Ok? But children are allowed to be underwear models and their pictures are put into catalogues. To many people, that's sexual. Sooo are these kids exploited too? And if so, is it comparable to being raped? And if we allow the underwear model kind of exploitation, then how is the "I sell my used socks" exploitation worse?

>women who masurbate at rape porn don't want to be raped irl
>weebs masturbating to lolicon want to fuck actual children

>>1388133
it's tricky to decide what's sexual and what isn't though. are kida at nudist beaches being exploited? during my vacations in Europe, I see tons of naked kids even at normal beaches. this would be unthinkable at home because it's too sexual, but in other countries it's just normal.

>>1383032
Stop seething, diddler

>>1388256
Both want it to happen irl and let's not pretend otherwise.

>>1388106
That's a pretty long explanation to justify being sexually attracted to children, anon. I personally know many shut ins who jerk off to anime and would never touch a 3D girl even if they jumped on them. They are still heterosexual, they simply have no interest for the real thing (and I don't blame them). You can pin it on the abstract nature of art or the perception of society all you want, but if you jerk off to drawings of a little girls that's just the label you're going to get. Even with all the mental gymnastics you can muster.

>>1383032
dropped why juniper.

>>1386980
>Crying about western vtubers
>You're not welcome here
How new?

>>1388136
Absolutely not. I wouldn't try to justify myself by trying to label rape with something different though just because it's seen as wrong by society: rightfully so in the real world, not so much in the domain of art.
That's the difference between you and me. I accept my kinks instead of going post-modern mental gymnastic in order to call myself something different.

>>1388242
Yes anon, children being used as models is literally the definition of exploitation. Their parents are disgusting opportunists and those children often grow up to have horrible body image issues and substance abuse problems.
Don't try to justify your desire to exploit and abuse real children. Seek help.

>>1388329
That's boring anon, I was hoping for a real response but if you're just gonna use circular reasoning of "normies think loli is pedo therefore you're a pedo because normies think you're a pedo" then it's just a waste of my time.

>>1382973
Rent free

>>1388304
Okay, fair point.

>>1387910
That's just called an artstyle. Different artists will draw differently, who would've known? Instead of overanalysing an artstyle based on reality you have to see how the artist draws certain age groups. Maybe he draws all females like that regardless of age.

>>1388295
I'm pretty sure anyone who buys used underwear does it for sexual reasons
>>1388242
How is posing in a swimsuit compatible to selling your underwear or saliva?

>>1383032
Based bug filtering out pedos.
The amount of mental gymnastics going on in here is gold.

>>1388423
You are being stupid and intentionally missing the point. Some art of lolis is tiny skinny woman, and some of it clearly references and seeks to emulate the body types of children.

>Alright, this is why it's ok to fuck children

>>1388476
>some of it clearly references and seeks to emulate the body types of children.
That's just like, your opinion man...seek help.

>>1388476
>Some art of lolis is tiny skinny woman
From my experience this is exactly what most people like, these girls are no different to small and flat adults.

>>1388470
If you think trying to come to the solution to a complicated question is mental gymnastics you might be a moron

>>1388386
What answer were you expecting ? Pedophilia is literally "Attracted to children". It's a straight line in logic. There's no need for loops and backflips. Lolicon has nothing to do with sexual attraction, it's about liking the cuteness and sweetness of the character. It's about wanting to be nice to them, hug them and head pat them. If you literally jerk off to them, it's something entirely different. It doesn't mean you'll do it in real life, it doesn't mean you're going to go out and try to sleep with actual little girls. It's just a fetish, and in the domain of art it's perfectly fine. It has nothing to do with normies: it's literally being sexually aroused by children. I'm not judging you beside the fact you are coping extremely hard and it makes me feel bad for you, dude. You shouldn't be ashamed of it.

>>1383136
Chads who want to fill a pretty thigh cunny of course.
We need more cunny vtubers, even the holos designs outside Gura and Anya are getting old.
Marine, Choco and Mel need to graduate. No need for actual used goods when cunny is on the menu (I really want to impregnate gura).

>>1388536
so glad gura is 9 gorillion!

>>1383032
>you can kermit sulfide
what did she mean by this

>>1388536
Unironically though

>>1382907
>>1382946
>>1383020
>>1383032
>>1383212
>>1383696
That went downhill fast.

>>1388651
Too scared of triggering someone to say 'commit suicide'

>>1383212
Did she even read that or just saw mothgirl memes?

>Wasted
Literally rigged it and made it herself nigga.

The sale and purchase of loli/shota should be heavily controlled and monitored by the state. By buying it you should have to consent to being put on a list so that when a child goes missing within 10 miles the police know which basement to check.

>>1383032
Fucking based, seethe more lolifags, lol.

>>1388536
>this is why all anime is CP and you're a literal pedo if you find it attractive

>>1387418
This
I don't usually watch loli hentai, but most doujinshis that i have found feature generic anime drawing style midgets with big tits or no tits at all. What i' trying to say is that a lot of lolis in hentai look like shorter versions "generic hentai girls".
Depends a lot on the artstyle

>>1388846
I'm okay with calling them "technical pedophiles". That's a pretty good middle ground.

>>1388536
No one's said that you absolute retard.

>>1388730
>>1383306
>>1383337
>>1383882
>>1384485
Are we being raided by Twitter or something?

>>1388754
This honestly doesn't work as a mark against antilolifags. They are consistently against minors modeling and being sexualized as well, as they tend to be either conservative or feminists.

>>1388476
Artstyle is important because your interpretation of the character adjusts based on how the artist consistently draws certain age groups. An image cannot be assessed in a vacuum. It's the same when looking for trap characters. If you see how the artist draws men & women differently you'll be able to tell when he actually draws a trap before it's revealed.

>>1388889
Her discord probably

>>1388136
Not him but yes

>>1388937
meds, thanks

>>1383032
It's funny how women pretend to care about that kind of thing just to get some points of attention

>>1386449
Don't worry, no one outside of this shithole cares, same thing with the nyanners situation. They can screech and cry all they want.

Masturbating to pictures of animals, anthro or not, doesn't make you a furry, because it's just pictures.

>>1388754
Both are hot.

>>1388704
>women
>read

>>1386449
>years ago

How is 3 months years anon? She tried to cancel the succubus loli a few weeks ago and called people pedos for defending them

>>1388978
No it has to be anthro else it's not a furry.

Letting western vtubers on this board was a mistake.

>>1388978
Anon, you aren't making the point you think you're making.

>>1388617
What's complicated here? If you jerk off to lolis that means you're sexually aroused by artistic depiction of minors getting fucked, also known as pedophilia. No amount of cope and seethe will change that.

>>1388978
That's actually a good point because it doesn't make you a furry it makes you a zoophile. Pictures of animals vs drawings of animals are very different things.

They can both yiff in hell though.

this isnt a board about vtwitters

go back to r*ddit or somewhere else

>>1389028
So do you think everyone who wants to fuck this also jacks it to real animals?

>>1382973
This is bait

>>1389081
>snake with tits
What fucking retard drew this?

>>1389081
Yes.
lolifags and furfags can yiff in hell.

>>1383964
Unfathomably based

>>1389136

>>1388919
Someone did mention in her discord about the thread lmfao

Pedophilia, rape, murder ect will never take into account drawings or video games ect. Those are real things that happen involving 3d people, not one person and a drawing and it never will. Fuck NPCs Fuck twitter, and Fuck you
CLAP
CLAP
NEXT MEME

>>1389398
Thanks, Coco.

>>1383696
>Not wanting to take care of a sweet moth daughter
A bit off topic, but the guy in that doujin is a fag

>>1389437
That's kind of the point. It makes you want to comfort her and become her loving step-father.

>>1387212
The brains of westerns can’t lmao they’re dumb as shitt

do you have lämp bröther?

>>1382973
>hating mori

So if people who look and sound like men should get to called women, why can’t I jack off to lolis who are stated to be 18+ without someone calling me a pedo?

>>1389651
I got your lamp right here
*unzips dick*

>>1389683
That's because women aren't jealous of trannies so they won't affect them as a competition, small girls on the other hand terrify them because literally everyone agree this is peak female performance.

>>1389683
people who jack of to trannies and futa get called gay

>>1383813
>insanely

>>1389332
And why would you know that, hmmmm?

>>1390136
Because he's on the channel? Are you stupid?

Can't watch roastie voice garbage anymore.

>>1390176
Or maybe he is the one mentioning the thread on her Discord.

>>1383032
western roasties were a mistake and should've never started vtubing. just point your webcam at your tits, that's all you are good for when it comes to streaming

>>1382973
>minus Kiara
You KFP are so pathetic you are no better than your oshi, she has rotted your minds

>>1383032
dropped.

>>1383032
Based and picked up

>>1384569
do I keep going

>>1383032
dunno what's worse, this or kiara's sjw bullshit

>>1390329
There's no going back now.

This bitch threw kyuotto under the bus for twitter clout points. Hope she dies. "people" like this are detrimental to the vtuber community in the west

>>1383032
They didn't ban manga and anime. She is a moron

>>1384940
HAHAHAHAHA
What a massive wank. Probably a legit SJW.
Thank you whoever linked in gumi thread. That was a good laugh.
GTA isn't murder just like loli isn't rape. If you think it IS, then that says more about your mental instability more than anyone elses.
Plain simple fact - violent media dropped violent crime considerably. While it HAS led directly to some committing crimes, the overall effect is still massively in favor of the media existing than not existing. We've never lived in better times thanks to it. The same applies to digital porn.

>>1383032
>calls shota/loli pedophiles
>design straight outta shota/loli erodoujin
i feel like there's some skeletons in the closet here.

>>1383032
did she just call matsuri, pikamee and Pochi literal pedos? bitch deserves a rope

>>1388749
Go back

>>1388749
kill yourself

>>1390717
There's a list going around on Twitter of vtubers to avoid because they, as well as others, like loli and shota.
They deleted their account after getting shit if I remember right, but it is out there.

>>1383696
post this moth loli everytime she is brought up anon

>>1383696
Imagine a moth loli vtuber happened.
Imagine it got more attention.
Imagine the anger and buttfrustration.
Imagine seeing the lock icon on her profile after a while.

>>1384940
that tweet wasn't even a year ago, she also jumped on the kyuotto hate bandwagon with the vtweeters not too long ago.

>>1385008
Doesn't the pink cat still hate lolicons? This is infinitely better as an apology than what Nyanners did imo.

>>1390839
I mean Kyuotto is shit so the haters were right.

>>1387101
>Pink cat good
lol

>>1389028
you're the one trying to cope with your inability to differentiate reality from fiction, how about you just sign a petition to ban GTA5 to prevent car jackings and murder irl like the good little american you are.

>>1390362
anything weird

>>1391033
Looks great. Would definitely coom to it.

>>1386980
>You're not welcomed.
holy fuck use a rope you absolute faggot

>>1387719
Ina already has a husband......

>>1391027
>no u
God damn the goal post moving with you pedos in denial is incredible.

You are the definition of a pedophile if you jerk off to loli.

>>1384940
>Now that I'm getting some attention on me I don't actually hold any opinions either way because that could affect my viewership.
Gee, what a dumb bitch. Stick to your guns or admit that you were wrong, nobody likes a fence sitter.

>>1387733
Problematic height gaps are cancelable anon :/

>>1388120
When you really think about all fiction is rape since none of the characters consent to the actions that they perform in the story.

>>1388749
>>1388978
>>1389137
>>1390299
>>1389028
Fuck off back to your irrelevant discord server where you can go get groomed by domo.

>>1382907
>Go watch a bit of her stream
>Sounds like a basic bitch
>inside 10 seconds started swearing
>Inside 20 seconds potty humor

Hard skip

>>1383032
I watch entertainers to be amused, not preached to about the grace and glory of antinatalism.

This is why vtubers private their old accounts and start over from scratch. Otherwise you're weighed down by all the baggage you've accumulated up until that point. She basically fucked herself harder than any man ever could by coming out as a bitter angry misandrist. When perverse men are your target demo, that's a pretty self defeating thing to do.

>>1392407
She's still more popular than lolis like Kyushit. Stay mad.

>>1392585
Fuck off Juniper. We both know even Hime will outlast you.

>>1391939
>i can't differentiate between fantasy and reality, but i'm not a schizo

>>1383032
Isn't her design based on a fucking /ss/ rape doujin series?

https://twitter.com/my70012
>she follows this guy
guess shes a pedophile by her own standards

>>1390831
>Imagine a moth loli vtuber happened
PLEASE
I don't even give enough of a shit about the mommy moth to want to spite her. I just want moth cunny

>brings political shit into their vtuber career
Remind me why ANYONE gives these sort of people any sort of attention?

>>1392923
The type that care just as much about politics as them and already agree with all their opinions.

>>1392923
Americans