/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>13816747
Not only games, dude. Zatsudan, karaoke and covers also got down. For example, everything pre-July 2020 from Towa is gone which for her is a blessing as also erased the apology stream after the yabee and some of Sio's collabs.
And seen how badly the content were erased was a traumatic moment to watch live. Even Subaru started crying on stream for it.
Cover knows how badly a complain from a company can be so of course they don't want that shit happen again and have the right to do so.

I think Susan is feeling generous today because Chloe just randomly got +30k subs instantly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leJbd7ndMkI

Noel joins the pokemon autists with, random movements?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5CwaMl1eIgY8h02uZw7u8A/community?lb=UgkxsXEQGk3sZhCO9ew2ulXgMTUhWByhHhpc
Suisei...
This is good timing for Suisei to talk about her achievement and praise Yagoo/Hololive for giving her a chance to shine. I see this as an ad/propaganda to people outside of the company.

>>13817558
>Subaru crying
proof?

>>13817724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13qiiPHgmAo

>>13817716
You wish holobrony, the last time Suisei talked about the company she shit on them not even providing bentos when coming in from recordings, every other liver there at the moment was taken aback at how stingy Cover was since they get free food for company events.

>>13817724
https://files.catbox.moe/v3gzav.mp4

>11/28/2021 180,499 Koyomi debut (NEW)
>11/29/2021 176,697 Chloe debut (NEW)
>11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut (NEW)
>11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut (NEW)

168,633 average

>Chloe debut already get as much views as Koyori despite lower ceiling

>>13817747
>barks

What was yesterday's numbers?

>>13817724
1st 2nd stream after it, just look up her reaction to losing streams.
Her case was worse because her manager either misunderstood the instructions or wanted to be thorough and straight up deleted streams instead of privating them.
So they were completely lost, a few re-uploaded later in much lower quality found on blbl or some other sharing site.

>13817747
Don't even pretend that you know Japanese, EOPchama

>>13817783
Samurai girl. Above or below?

>>13817905
we keep saying below so let's keep with tradition.

>>13817905
Below, Chloe had mask buff while Iroha has probably the least interesting design out of the 5, probably will get the lowest out of all

How are the numbers looking today. Any guesses?

>Weekday
>No unmasking hype like orca
>Burnout
Yeah samurai won't even get 100k

>>13817905
All points to 150k-165k range. Hype and all around good debuts can help her and well, she is the last so there's that.

>>13817626
Did YT reply to cunny+'s plea?

Another culling right now?

>>13817905
Above Lui but below La+

>>13818005
Seems like gold, silver and bronze will go to holos again

>>13817768
>> Please note due to licensing difficulties, Marine's original song will NOT be included in the Geekjack set.
Holocaust, everyone...

>>13818005
Iroha debut gold, Rokkisei collab silver, MarineMel live sex bronze

Holokeks, are you okay? How is it possible that NijiEN is catching up with you in SC when they don't even have 1/10 of the viewership or subs?

>>13818034
Laplus's whining made youtube look into hololive more closely and discovered that a lot of their subs were spam accounts, you reap what you sow

>13818057
>viewership/sub to SC ratio
was never a thing now kys

>>13818088
meds, right now

>>13818057
They are leaving EN for JP, you can see the trend all accross Holo, this month has been one of the best for the JP holos while it was one of the worst for EN across every metric

>>13818115
Cope, this just shows that Ethyria was not wrong to do donator thanking streams right after debut, it's better for their income.

ccv-sub ratio nijikek is back LMAO, show your chart again when NijiEN won something

>>13818115
Cope because holoEN fans are poor

>13818057
the ratio man is back
i take niji not even get bronze yesterday yes?

>>13817905
Above Lui but below everyone else.

>>13818158
Wave 4 is coming

>>13818044
jesus, I don't think I've ever seen Sora this upset before

>>13818172
kuzuha 5th place

>>13817826
She's the best singer so far.

>>13818088
>Implying YouTube remotely gives a shit
>13818156
>debuffs self with shitty post debut streams
>gets poor viewership so saviourfags trips themselves trying to save them
Fair enough, so be it midgets.
>>13818211
What are they gonna win? The highest male viewership in an overseas branch?
I think either only the males or the females will incline due to the 4th wave, never both.

>>13817768
That's a really good edit

>>13818322
There's a MASSIVE amount of demand for male livers in the global market, they have a chance of surprising everyone and competing with holo gen 6

is he high or something?

>>13818322
>The highest male viewership in an overseas branch
finally nijien win at something

Man, the Faggot List has been graced with all the celebrities this month. The only missing people are Tsunderia and MyHoloTV interns...

>>13818016
How's ur kneecap yesterday anon-kun?
>nice jinx tho, as always

>>13818376
/hlg/ back in the day was something else
now it's just schizo infested just like this place always posting retarded baits then self replying

>>13818398
>MASSIVE amount of demand for male livers
Who? Where?

>>13817558
That was mostly cover being overly thorough, which I can't blame them completely for that, but the truth is, they didn't HAVE to do all that.
The problematic vods / games could've been deleted without taking down everything else.
We actually have evidence of this, since Ame and Gura's GTA vods are still available and they have copyrighted music. They're just unmonetized.

What are the top streamers for YT currently aside from Dream's gang? I only know of Jun, koretube isn't a streamer but does live every so often.

>>13818398
ok holobro that was way too obvious
try again next post

>>13818057
Glad to know that nijisister. I know your 2view beggars are only rely on sc to survive without any other income aside of their trash voicepack

>>13817449
NEW /#/ mascot!!!

Is JP6 going to screw Council and Myth over? I noticed a huge portion of the debut's chat were EOPs, possibly the majority even. Why so much interest for them from the Western side?

>>13818518
hindsight biased, Cover being a small indie company isn't a joke ya know.

>>13818222
She should be the most upset anon. All the hardworks she put over that 3 year and all thos days shilling for her kouhais got snapped into dust

>>13818651
Hololive just has a massive amount of EOP tourists is all, they won't stay to watch the streams

>>13818057
Repeated mogs by gen6 broke him.
Let him be lads

>>13818651
You're an idiot thinking of that when EN doesn't even stream on JP's time

>>13818657
Kind of, yeah. But I hope they know by now.
Any youtube savy person would've known how takedown notices and strikes work.
They should've had a youtube contact at the time.

>>13818815
well, it's a lot better now but they will continue to operate very safely since there's no point in risking anything.

>>13817716
Man, I await the first time a vtuber song gets 100M views. I was there in the days the first kpop song did it and the celebrations and shitflinging was so fun.

>>13818651
lots of southeast asians (the main hololive EOP market) that prefer japanese girls to western ones

>>13818398
sure, there is NO male streamer in teh west.
pff

>>13818507
See: the outrage over FGO not having enough male characters
Males are extremely popular in the anime market and now male EN vtubers? Perfect storm of interest.

>>13818398
>MASSIVE amount of demand for male livers in the global market
demand is so big, there is no any big indi male, kek

>>13818920
>outrage
Where? A few tweets from literally whos are not outrage.

>>13818915
>https://twitchtracker.com/xqcow
>casually hits 100k on any stream when hololive needs events to even come close
Male streamers mog female streamers consistently in the West, this is the biggest reason Wave 4 is going to be a success

>>13818891
>100M views
It's impossible without botting.
Even kpop is no different

>>13817768
Looking back, after this, Aloe and the Coco yab, I cannot fathom that Cover got through that and is currently thriving.

>>13818476
Any other kino edit like that?

>>13818994
It was trending retard

>>13818507
Headcanon is an important area of expansion for nijisanji that hololive just can't compete in.

has anyone made a vtuber popularity poll yet, like the th one

>>13818398
>MASSIVE amount of demand for male livers in the global market
>they have a chance of surprising everyone and competing with holo gen 6
>gen 6

>>13819000
any reason why there is no big male indis?

>>13817449
That's a nice foot

>>13819037
proof?

>>13819060
Since when did niji compete at all? at begging collabs? of course hololive will never be able to compete with that

>>13819097
all of them have dog shit avatar
need white hair red eyes with pale skin avatar to thrive

>>13819081
They might not get ludicrous numbers like 180k but their relay is going to push everyone else out of medals on the debut day.

>>13818891
Well if Ado using an avatar at her first live then the goal would have been reached. If not, this is the current highest OG by a chuuba https://youtu.be/F9eCSWEJYjk

>>13819000
anon THIS is the reason,
west do NOT need your male Niji shiters. we ve got male streamers with great personality already. do your sarcasm reps

>>13819097
this is the biggest western male vtuber right now (aside from nox or that tranny furry)

>13819149
>nijien
>getting medal
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>13819032
https://streamable.com/604b5g

>>13819144
>all of them have dog shit avatar
so nothing will change with Niji male gen?

>>13819097
Lack of brand power, nijisanji will supply that.

>>13818602
Anon. I doubt real holofans are clamoring for a new a holostar or even a male collab. At most, a gachi will just be indifferent or a little amused by all of it. At worst, they hate it. People asking for it are just virtue signaling BS but don't really watch Holostars or Hololive whatsoever or worst, a homobeggar wanting to use a hologirl to pump up the numbers of their oshi

its so quiet for being the EN primetime

>>13818322
Not him but I think males will bring a new audience to nijien and normalize male-female interactions in western vtubing for agencies. Tsunderia did it first but they are less popular so they have less eyes in them, but with nijien, they are a lot more popular in comparison so I think they can achieve this.
We'll see how things will go after the debut I guess.

https://streamable.com/a8mrol

>>13819253
>Lack of brand power
>nijisanji will supply that.
LOL, niji keks are so fucking delusional

>>13819097
Hololive being the most popular is the reason for that. I think we all can agree with it right? If nijisanji was the one who got popular in the same level of hololive, we would've been seeing a much different mindset for vtubers in the west.

>>13819279
>normalize male-female interactions
Except it's after 3 waves of livers and no one knows what will happen if you change that out of a sudden
They should have started with male/female waves if they planned to do this route, not finally debuting your first male NijiEN liver after so long

>>13819279
>Normalizing male-female interactions
They have been collabing with male nijis. Where have you been.

>>13819322
nijien has enough of a brand to give you 100k so uh, I don't think it's that wrong.

>>13819032
https://streamable.com/c9wk6e
I'm pretty sure /hlg/ was part of the reasons why Roberu became the top star

>>13819362
>If nijisanji was the one who got popular in the same level of hololive, we would've been seeing a much different mindset for vtubers in the west.
Vshojo

>>13819279
They already collab with males retard even JP males

Does the nijisanji members hyping the wave 4 that much? or nijikeks are just coping and seething that they are expecting they can have another kuzuha tier that can't win any medals anymore, Kek

>>13819426
Delusion.
>>13819448
No one is hyping them up within the company other than Nina, ESLfaggot.

>>13819424
>nijien has enough of a brand
do you mean Holo-light?

>>13819448
Like wave 3, the initial NijiEN branch, etc.
>>13819060

>>13819378
I definitely agree males should have come sooner and mixed with female vtubers but it's still worth in any case. I think most will be conditioned to watch anyway be it newer or older fans because of male-female collabs being constant. Selen, Nina and Elira are some of the biggest earners and they not only collab all the time but Nina is some of the most straight vtubers out there literally thirsty for her co-workers.
>>13819385
I mean normalize that in the western industry with male mixed gens and interactions on other agencies.

>>13819448
what?

>>13819502
Nina is the top star of Wave 3 so her hyping them up means a lot.

Hey Polka slipped over 10k nice. How long since she was in the daily top, I don't remember.

>>13819362
youare either delusional Nijikek on copium, or literally never was involved in western streaming community

>>13819545
only because there's no one else streaming and she's buffed by Pokemon, she's shit-tier otherwise

>>13819231
Thanks anon

>>13819526
They already did. They did those collabs with that offline dude

>>13819526
The western industry already collabs with men holy shit. It's only JP leaning or JP companies who do this pseudo unicorn shit.

>>13819545

She was literally on yesterday daily, 22k even

There's a difference between collabing with men and having men in the same branch, come on.

>>13819448
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6SpqrYh_r8&

>>13819502
They have talked about it many times on their streams from the time the auditions opened to this day. Pomu literally talked about it a day ago about wave 4 being boys and how she's going to bully then. Plus this from a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdQG4ymJkXk

>>13819526
Western industry vtuber company is Vshojo and they collab with males all the time even irl streamers.

>>13819545
She's in daily top yesterday anon with her horse gacha.

>>13819599
https://pastebin.com/8iSthbLh
there are plenty of good clips here if you're willing to sift through it.

>>13819634
Oh, I thought that was on Flare's channel.

Anyone see where Ina’s poll peaked? Saw it at 25k with a ccv of 10k but it was still going up

>>13819574
>>13819604
>>13819616
... I'm obviously talking about vtuber agencies, not indies or normal streamers. Tsunderia was the first en agency doing that. That's what I mean. A male and female generation, wtihout being separated by a different branch and without the entire company being female focused. What I mean is to male and female to exist out there in englis hbased agencies and for them to interact more, plus more males having incentive to join vtubing.

>>13819738
>>13819426
Thanks oldguardchama o7

>>13819689
Doesn't count, that's a collab

>>13819448
I'm just hyped to see how well, or poorly, they do in the market. This is a test for male chuubas since this will be the first instance of major corpo backing. If they can get numbers similar to Lazulight in Niji it could be a good sign, but I'm not hopeful

>>13819806

you don't count

>>13819672
Yes, Vshojo. I was thinking more on the yt side like Prism, Tsunderia, Kawai and those other agencies. Vshojo is a bit different since they all were big indies and it's very creative and talent owned.

>>13819545
>>13819585
>was in the daily top, I don't remember.
she literally got 20k yesterday faggot

>>13819585
cope

migo?

the post that killed numberniggers: >>13819459

>>13819836
I don't think they need to do numbers similar to lazulight. In terms of 100k, that's guaranteed to me due to brand but in ccv I think if they get even something like 500 as the lowest it's going to be something already.

>>13819274
HoloEN, with the exception of Mumei, generally seem to use Monday as their rest day.

>>13819799
Vshojo is vtuber agency. I think you are just trying to categorize JP based vtuber agencies. Vshojo is the face of US based vtubing companies. They are more popular than NijiEN. Even if it's Twitch numbers. They collab with dudes all the time.

>>13819900
disney minecraft ?

>>13819951
DYRB

Lets save the fortune telling and midget stomping after they debut, please.

New #2 most subscribed vtuber

>>13820025
burger hours pls understand

>>13819279
>normalize male-female interactions in western vtubing for agencies
so ... you have no idia whats going on in Western vtubing comunity?
just open twitch for a sec, anon

>>13820026
Has she streamed or produced content as a VTuber at all?

>>13819900
Holy..!! SUUUUSAAAANNNN

Instead of culling, Susan returned 30k subs

oh no, the bots are back

>>13819860
>big indies and it's very creative and talent owned.
Why are you trying to exclude Vshojo with those metrics? What a stupid way of doing shit. They are a vtubing agency. They collab with males just fine. They are more popular than NijiEN. It's not a big thing. Having a male wave is not normalizing anything. It's already a thing. Move on.

>>13820131
slowchaama...

Interact Fantasia still not hitting 1M views.. Golden Gen they said..

>>13820026
>#2?
>huh?

>>13820025
pretty much this, i rather not predict anything and jinx myself because it could either be a massive flop or a huge success.

>>13820026
not vtuber and also #2 is kizuna ai

https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1465503100165246978
Nene is back

>>13820026
so she went indi..

>>13819689
Yeah that's my bad, I thought that was on Flare's channel. And I was more getting at when the last time she got over 10k completely solo. After going through her vods, it was the minecraft stream on the 10th of October. Every other 10k+ stream after that until this pokemon was with someone else in voice chat or a more traditional collab.

>>13820008
Anon. The Twitch leak files indicates that they are more successful by tenfold than NijiEN.

>>13819860
This is just nijicope at this point

>>13819951
No I was more thinking on youtube than twitch and on agencies where you don't own the avatar. Vshojo is much more free to do whatever they want than any other agency since all of them were big indies.
>>13820074
I have anon. I mentioned already but I think vshojo is very unique compared to any other agency in how they are managed. I was thinking more on the youtube side. But even with indies, there's not many male out there.

>>13820120
https://youtu.be/YbA5waNL0OA
She's debuting on the 11th

>>13820026
A.I.Channel

>>13818905
>prefer japanese girls to western ones
To be fair, who doesn't

>>13820172
Quote who else pointed it out

>>13820166
>>13820239
I'm not a nijisanji fan, I'm a hololive fan. I said two things: normalize female-male interactions and to introduce males as vtubers. Tsunderia already began their own but they are the only ones so far and smaller. I want to see something bigger and nijien can deliver that.
And I didn't say that nijien is bigger than vshojo.

>>13820262
She might ride on the tide of Myth's outfit reveal if they do a day-to-day relay from 6th?

>>13820331
archieve reps

>>13820341
sure you are

>>13820341
Kek you are trying too hard nijisister

>>13820355
"backread"

>>13820208
gen 5 must be pretty nervous about their future, first they were mogged by Myth, then Ollie, then Council and now holoX

>>13819906
Everyone here know that Vtubers are a niche

>>13820484
rent free

>male-female collabs
Are numbers poison for the girls. That is all.

>>13820341
because of morons like you, who ONLY can look up at big corps, we ve got this "problem" in a first place

8.5k on a normal day. NijiEN inclining hard, catching up in SCs too. It's over holoen fags

>>13820417
>>13820428
I watch hololive, vspo and tsunderia so I can't say much more than that.

The thing people don't get all about nijimales is that the west is not japan we already have popular male streamers in the west. It's not like in japan were nijisanji males are pretty much the only popular male streamers. In the west there competing against shit ton of people way more popular then them can nijisanji en males beat people like ludwig who moving to youtube. What about dr disrespect. These are the people nijisaji en male have to compete against in order to get stuff like sponsorships and become top dogs.

>>13820513
Mito and Lize are doing perfectly fine even after collabing with men

>>13820341
The only reason why Vshojo is being pointed as bigger is to counter your argument that this will normalize female-male interactions since they already do that. Btw, Vshojo normally collabs with Male vtubers as well. Not just IRL streamers. NijiEN already does this as well. Their debuts were hosted by a dude.

>>13820569
*yawn*

>>13820575
>hikakin
>jun
retard

>>13820628
Kek stop replying yo a low quality bait

>>13820575
Anon. Kuzuha is the only one that is significant and consistent in Nijisanji. Most popular male JP streamers are IRL streamers.

>>13820709
Kanae, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Kenmochi, Maimoto, Yashiro and many others disagree.
But youre not wrong that male normal streamers exist in japan for years, even before vtubers.

>>13820511
just sayin, if I were them I'd be scared about losing popularity and becoming a 2-view like Aki after being upstaged so hard with every new debut the company makes

>>13820569
Well i guess they do deserve praise afterall it's not a big collab

But you really had to shit on holos huh? They're still far from HoloEN so don't be too cocky lmao. Gura alone on a debuff game and bad day can't sink that low

Don't look now. NijiEN is just casually breaking their simultaneous viewer record on a random monday. This is even more viewers than they had in the mario kart collab

Bad management not letting her stream until all the debuts are over and Youtube's dumb anti-bot bullshit is killing Laplus' momentum. She's doing her best to try to stay relevant despite barely being allowed to promote her channel for almost a week, but its seemingly less and less likely that she's going to take off like the rocket she was supposed to be, to no fault of her own.

>>13820619
Ok then forget that and just focus on agencies debuting men be it by themselves or alongside other girls. NijiEN getting more numbers than Tsunderia will help to get attention on that for other agencies, that's what I mean.

>>13820833
you guys shit on nijien all the time so it would be nice to recognize sometimes. kek
btw Petra stream begins in 30 minutes and it's at least going to reach 1k with arknights so they might beat their record.

>>13820845
Random monday = Selen's birthday btw

>>13820833
Stop replying to bait anon, Ina streamed today with 10k+, for NijiEN to compete, they need to add all streams Kek

>>13820569
>cant even beat 1 vshojo

>>13820961
Her birthday stream is later.

>>13820845
That's their record? I knew their numbers were bad but I didn't realize they were THAT bad.

>>13817716
I feel like holoX reminded everyone of their beginnings.

>>13820513
>>13820575
>The thing people don't get all about nijimales is that the west is not japan we already have popular male streamers in the west.
/discussion
female Vtubers are popular in the West ONLY because of there were pretty big demand for female streamers who arent slut. male niche is already filled with supper popular streamers.
get over it Nijikeks

>>13820845
Probably because no one from holoEN is streaming. A rare thing for primetime nowadays since it's not just myth anymore.

>>13820961
her birthday is tomorrow retard.

Mumei minecraft 40 minutes from now, any predictions ?

>>13820793
Anon. Numbers. There's the strawberry boys and IRL FPS streamers and JUN that topples those dudes. Only Kuzuha can compete and Hal when his hosting his tourneys

>>13820593
Nijimales currently occupy a disproportionately large amount of slots in the upper ranks compared to their roster size.

>>13820985
their numbers aren't really bad. if you guys consider nijien numbers bad, what do you guys call tsunderia, prism and the others who go below 200 in a english market?

>>13820981
Nijikeks, add all the streams of NijiEN again they might beat this one LMAO

>>13820985
They hit 8.7k in the mario kart collab. Today they've hit 8.9k.

People were saying they could never break 8k. It looks like they are indeed getting more popular over time.

>>13821052
I see many women in the high spots and very varied though?

>>13820981
Pardon the small dog syndrome

>>13821066
pathetic

>>13821021
More than nijien.

>>13820945
But their vod views are trash. I can have 1000 people watching me and it turn out my vod view are 30k. Most of their vods are below 50k.

>>13820900
Let's wait until Vshojo actually debuts their new people. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a dude in there and it turns out he becomes more popular than than a NijiEN dude.

>>13821115
>They
new way to cope?
should i count Holo/Vshojo ccv same way?

>>13821115
Hopefully they can beat Petra's 9.8k stream soon.

>>13821176
Pardon them, it's their way of calculating their midgets' cap
>no wave 3 btw

>>13821138
2.2k waiting room RN, 13k / 15k possible ?

>>13820513
I hate to admit it but its true to some extent. Remember Hololive used to be a «streamer with virtual avatar» company like everybody else. It was when they went full Sora and rebranded as an idol company when they started picking up steam because like it or not, in an ocean of streamers (irl or vtuber) Hololive went the other way and and ended up looking somewhat unique. Lets be honest here, Hololive is the odd one out in the industry. They lean more on the kayfabe, they dont collab as often with the opposite sex, and it is seen as fucking weird, but maybe being weird like that makes them stand out.

>>13821176
that would be overkill

>>13820845
HoloEN slacking give NIjiEN a chance
Go slack more HoloEN

>>13821176
they're showing growth though. Can't say the same for other ENs

>>13821176
Kek, so they moved their goal to 7k combined streams LMAO, I think this is just pity at this point

>>13821176
you say that as if people don't count all the holo/niji views across all channels at a single time all the time

>>13821176
9.1k by the way.

This is an issue for them specifically. People were saying that they were just sharing the same small pool of viewers and could never break 8k simultaneous viewers. But this is apparently not the case

>>13820026
Mori about to be mogged?

mucho texto, when you could just say "strategy"

>>13817449
Anyone have good commentary on this?

These numbers look like a purge.

So Ludwig is moving from twitch to YT, maybe some other streamers will follow.

Will it affect VTuber scene in any way? At least we can expect some improvements to chat and general discovery options as YT started invest big money into lives.

>>13821247
idolbu did it first

>>13821118
>reading comprehension

>>13821324
slow and steady bros we're winning!!!

>>13821324
Yes, because no holoen is streaming. Watch that go back down once Moomers starts

>>13820569
>normal day
seleen has birthday buff

>>13817716
that and migos clip makes me sad.
https://youtu.be/B2qtZ1uYvs4?t=179

>>13821344
yes

>>13821377
All this talk about NijiEN and yet when Bora leaves today I think we will see what a true talented liver can achieve if only she had been empowered.

>>13820818
just saying rent free

>>13821217
This has been common practice since the first SportsFes.

>>13821490
Anon, nijiniggers will never label it like that until the stream happens, Kek

>>13821421
Unlike hololive nijisanji isn't doing viewbotting. Their donations are very similar to hololive. It might surprise you that the lowest view nijisanji Reimu got more superchat income in November than Ame

>>13821532
even Bora got 7k with her apex yesterday

>>13821324
were allowed to post midgets here now?

>>13818057
kek this doesn't even include streamlabs. By the time 5th wave comes they're probably going to be equal

>>13820569
I would've praise them for breaking their usual ceiling but then i saw this part
>it's over holoen fags
Too desperate? Ina alone still mogged them all alone. So don't be too cocky desperate nijifag.

>>13820845
I wouldn't say "casually", but it's praiseworthy atleast. And today is Selen's Birthday so it's not random monday and Elira is doing gacha.

>>13821115
Finally, someone who can celebrate success without starting shit.

>>13821532
that's the state of nijiniggers, hololive rents free in their head

>>13821066
sad cope

>>13821580
>viewbot
kek, boys add this one to coep list

>>13820793
How many male JP streamers that big than Kuzuha? Is it over 100?

>>13821580
Poor Nijifag still saying Holos use bots to cope. Must be hard to be a nijifag huh?

>>13821580
ESLfag, show data or at least compare better, Ame had 2-3 monetized stream kek, do any of NijiEN at least have any good metric record beside a "Failure" branch?

>>13820845
Good for NijiEN. It's slow, but they are getting there one step at a time. Only a bit (200) away from 9k now

>>13821658
It's already in it

>>13821141
how is 20k vod views trash.

damn 9.4k. Selen's bday will get 10k, screenshot this

>>13821597
Where were you back when people brought them up in the earlier half of the year?

>>13821324
Don't get cocky nijinigger... but yeah, that is something worth noting. Branch milestones should be acknowledged, you shouldn't get too much shit for sharing it.

>>13821809
if you want a hug for posting midget numbers you are free to go to reddit

>>13818057
i think we had this topic at noon
Anyone have total hours streamed for each this month?

22 mins till owl stream

>>13821532
You quoted the wrong person and Boa would never have reached those numbers without pandering to jp and apex community. Those people reaching those numbers within an agency can't just get and say it isn't because of the agency helping them.

>>13820991
Now that you mentioned it, wasnt gen 5 quite the heavy recruit? That's probably why not many sympathize with them back then, and now since holoX are former 2views and heavygrinder no names, the girls got more nostalgia

>>13821700
Easily dozens, even the JP streamer who got cucked is bigger than Kuzuha views-wise

>>13821865
2.9k waiting

>>13821773
Damn so Ina beat the shit out of this midgets and Mumei later?

>>13821370
There have been several purges over the last few days, anon. Did you miss all that? It's not like people's opinion of it changes just because it's the #6 purge instead of #5

>>13821773
selen celebrating bora graduation, superior purple woman indeed

>>13821809
I mean… it’s a pretty contrived milestone. It borders on damning them with faint praise.

>>13821627
Tomorrow is Selen birthday, not today....

>>13821635
>"let me tell you why Nijisanji is Much better then Hololive"

>>13821773
>reine above finana and rosemi
lel

>>13821878
Gen 5 is a flop all things considered, Cover invested heavily in getting successful big names and thought they'd be a big hit but after the debut they just fizzled out

>>13820262

New top 10 for subscribers

#1 3,620,000 Gura
#2 3,240,000 Mafumafu
#3 2,980,000 Kizuna Ai
#4 2,180,000 NuxTaku
#5 1,880,000 AmaLee
#6 1,800,000 Mori
#7 1,790,000 Pekora
#8 1,720,000 Marine
#9 1,720,000 Fubuki
#10 1,530,000 Ame

>>13821066
That is only a cope you can use for small start up agency anon, not the #1 vtuber company's international branch

Nijifags can celebrate their oshis getting 10k altogether and if Selen gets past 10k herself pretty sure they'll brag like there's no tomorrow.

Meanwhile when Sana got 10k on her return stream and 10k on the splatoon they disregard it because she only got it due to buffs.

>>13821894
>JP streamer who got cucked
which one? all them jp male always got cucked

>>13821896
Why can't Ina or Mumei make more money than those midgets though? >>13818057

>>13821580
wow, getting more superchats than someone who actively avoids them and has been on multiple breaks during the month. Amazing discovery you've made anon. Incredibly surprising.

>>13821970
Pmaru...

>>13821977
https://www.youtube.com/user/mokoustream/videos

>>13821872
Are you seriously arguing that NijiEN is better than Bora because they got heavily supported by Anycolor while Bora had to make her own way without any support?

>>13821970
might as well put pewdiepie and hikakin there if you have mafumafu

>>13821976
>if Selen gets past 10k herself pretty sure they'll brag like there's no tomorrow.
funny enough ppl rare use Selen as shitpost material,

>>13822038
NijiEN is better than Bora because they got where they are without pandering and leeching off APEX players

>>13822038
he's a retard pls understand

>>13821918
Eh, maybe I just have a soft heart. I'm just saying NijiEN won't be seeing HoloEN or even Vshojo numbers anytime soon, likely never, but there's no harm in one post showing a personal milestone. He's starting to get annoying posting every little update though

>>13821932
I'm an SEAfag so it's today in my calendar and it will be included in today's chart should she get 10k+

>>13818057
>mumei is losing to kronii who barely stream this month

>>13821878
They were and while Aloe got out, almost all of them went as expected.
>Lamy became a SC powerhouse
>Botan is a good complement for any collab
>Nene is the face of the gen and the best at everything
>Porkahime...
But yeah, it isn't Gen 4 without Coco but better.

>>13821970
Sodaposter, is that you?!

>>13822067
how new?
>13822072
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>He hurts himself in confusion!

>>13821976
Holo standard maybe? Nijikeks standard is 7k combined streams Kek

>>13821894
Only dozen? I think >>13820575 correct because western has so many streamers that bigger than Kuzuha and I don't think Anycolor will find their EN Kuzuha so it could be worse

>>13821377
>Sio ruined idolbu
>forced baacharu into suicide
>destroy Siro's legacy
Never forget!

>>13822158
>dozenS
ESLchama...

>>13821976
well yeah. Unlike HoloEN, NijiEN have a pretty small audience waiting for them. 10k is above their normal CCV

>>13822038
lol did he really compared WHOLE NijiEN vs 1 Kr girl?

>>13822072
The fuck do you think Selen did?

>>13822004
A lot of the midgets had some buffs this week first of all. Secondly, Ina and Mumei initially fostered a culture that actively discouraged superchats. Mumei is improving at it currently, but the damaged has been done and it'll be a tough hole to climb out of.

>>13822072
Selen...

>>13821580

Today's superchats

>>13822118
>how new?
wasnt here for a month because thread was dead for a most part

>>13822232
I want to fuck this cat

>>13822211
Play a great variety of games and show off how likeable she is? Also displayed her wittiness to full effect by roasting Ethyria debuts in front of a combined audience of 20k, further increasing her popularity.

>>13822014
Sorry Ame

#1 3,620,000 Gura
#2 3,240,000 Mafumafu
#3 2,980,000 Kizuna Ai
#4 2,190,000 Pmaru
#5 2,180,000 NuxTaku
#6 1,880,000 AmaLee
#7 1,800,000 Mori
#8 1,790,000 Pekora
#9 1,720,000 Marine
#10 1,720,000 Fubuki

>>13821970
You left Korone off. She should be tied with Marine.

>>13822250
>honorary Holo member is top 2
nice

>>13822196
10k? you mean 6-7k combined stream right? Of course excluding events

>>13822004
They've taken actions that have discouraged superchats, though Mumei has recently changed that, so it remains to be seen how that works out. It's a side job for Ina anyway, and Mumei makes up for it with memberships.

So I'm glad the theory that nijisanji is stuck at 8k viewers has been shattered. In fact their viewers are steadily increasing over time.

>>13822250
>Lamy can beat Mori they said
>doesn't even get 2k for streaming
failure gen...

>>13822120
Yeah but the way you nijifags talk is like NijiEN will already beat HoloEN.

>>13822067
Bruh

>>13817905
200k+ if Chloe didn't have a shit intro she would have retained all the sleepers; this time they saved the best for last (inhale), she will be funneled 150k+ at the gate, and her magical personality for the first 30 minutes will siphon views from non-mainstream vtubing live streams (inhale), nijisanji/vshojo mega collab gets zero views.
Samurai Haachama will retain everyone with her la creatividad debut, Gura will be BTFO'd for the 5th time in a week.
Screencap this

>>13822300
Ai is STILL stuck at 2,98m subs? Holy shit.

I think we're wrong about using subs as a popularity metric, it should be sub growth, not total subs overall.

>>13822284
delusional brony

What sites have the total streaming hours for nijiEN and holoEN?
i want to try >>13821858 to see how much money they make by the hour.

>>13822300
Your forgetting emirchu became an vtuber and she has 3 million subs

>>13821377
idolbu imploded, they would have been in Hololive's shoes had they managed to survive that yab.

>>13822284
hahaha you're funny. Also why are you combining the debut with the watchalong when selen was only on the watchalong?

>>13822284
Which did jack shit, her best content is still Apex.
>roasting Ethyria debuts
Which sucked up their hype effectively killing wave 3's momentum. Actual leech.
You underestimate Bora and how far she branches off in the Apex community unlike Selen.
She also participated in several CR Cups and actually performed well in them, unlike Selen in her tournaments.

>>13822300
Why'd you add an extra 20k to Fubuki's sub count?

>>13822004
They make actual money from sponsorship, shilling, events, and selling-out in less than 1h merchs, so they dont need to begging for dono like nijien

>>13822434
>t. doesn't watch apex
US APEX server is far more competitive and of a far higher level than JPs, dumbass, a diamond in the US server is more skilled than a master in JP. Put Selen in the CR Cup and you'll see how good she really is.

>>13822284
Yeah right. But if a holo did it, pretty sure you won't say "wittiness". You'll shit on her and say Hololive is done.

>>13818891
Namirin already got a cover over 120 million.

>>13822072
>"pandering isnt fair!!!!"
tourist in /#/, go back to your containment chamber

>>13822351
gonna be pretty damning for the loli crowd if Laplace ends up with the second lowest debut numbers after everything's said and done

i'm gonna be honest, i was expecting her to be the top after day 2

>>13822514
She joined reignite cup and her team finished at 11th place no?

>>13817905
Below. 120-130k range, perhaps up to 135k. She seems to be the most normal of the bunch so far, so she might not be able to attract as many viewers. I'll gladly kneel if she gets more, though

>>13822072
>Nijikek eating themself by attacking member who are going to graduate
why am i not surprised

>>13822250
>3, 5, 10, 11
Who are these rando?

>>13822518
A holo won't even do it in the first place, none of them have the chemistry of NijiEN who actually are friends

>>13822514
>yadayada
Until she actually wins a tournament you can shut the fuck up. She placed what, 11th last time. It's already no secret that Selen is just a half decent Apex player.
Selenfags already celebrating their only equal in their foreign branch is graduating. Sasuga most toxic fanbase.

>>13822605
she also got carried to master

https://youtu.be/xBIQ_bqi-qQ
Chloe getting some very popular clips from her debut

>>13822605
If you had actually watched it you'd know that she threw that tournament, Bonnivier had a stomachache so they dropped out early.

>>13822681
More food for the algorithm...

It's not fair Nijibros. Why can't we take over the algo?

>>13822706
Selenfags coping.

Face it, Bora is the superior purple woman Apex streamer.

>>13822635
What did that do in their numbers? this cope is pretty hilarious Kek

>>13822706
That was the first tournament, not the second one where they placed 11th. And RIG is a shitshow anyways, not a real tournament.

>>13822635
>actually are friends
Nepotism

>>13822532
Shit now that you mentioned it. Holochads unlocked another trophy!

>numbers thread
>chemistry
>something something isn't fair
>Apex skills that can't be proven
Get lost.

>>13822706
?? You should actually watch selen anon. She was not with bon in her recent tourny.

>>13822810
can't win in numbers, might as well shit the thread amirite

>>13821324
Now I'm curious to see what happens to that once Mumei starts streaming.

>>13822810
Burger hour

>>13822771
>>13818057

>>13822635
>actually friends
>killed momentum
>formed cliques
>ostracize patra and nina
Yeah they are actual friends anon.. Elira and friends that is

>>13822706
as Selenfag I AM Calling you out, MF. she finished at 11th place during LAST tourny with Qu+Mitwun.
you are Fucking embarrassment of Dragoons, who didnt even watched a tourny of your Oshi

>>13822853
Sad 11th place...
Tournament won counter:
Towa 1
Matsuri 1
Selen wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>13817905
Not lowest. People have bird related trauma.

>>13822532
>Abused the algorithm
...So she was destined to be a Holo all along

>>13821375
You actually think there will be improvements? Just like when Mixer gave Ninja a shit ton of money that's what Youtube is doing. They're not investing money in improving the platform, just trying to poach popular streamers.

>>13822706
>If you had actually watched
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
"Selenfags" are just falseflaggers trying to prop up NijiEN like "chumbuds" huh

>>13822250
November so far
>kson - $103,493
>Lamy - $99,217
>Rushia - $96,058
>Noel - $58,198
>Mori - $52,018
>Miko - $51,372
>Kuzuha - $51,261
>Marine - $47,749
>Flare - $43,664
>Pekora - $41,819
>Watame - $40,713
>Kanata - $37,504
>Fuwa - $37,481
>Subaru - $35,534
>Kiara - $34,470
>Ibrahim - $32,747
Looks like kson will top the month barring something spectacular from Lamy or Rushia tomorrow

>>13822913
So friendship help them gain SC what? are nijiniggers really this retard at discussing? LMAO

Here’s an Apex number for you: there are two Niji CR Cup winners and 1 Holo CR cup winner. They are Setomiya, Bora, and Towa. After Bora leaves, the whole of NijiApex is no better than one purple holo.

>>13822681
fucking holofag nijisanji have plenty of clips that match that shit you would know if you actually watch them instead of hating on them cause hololfags feels threaten by nijisanji en increasing in popularity. I mean today we broke 10k ccv without the males and once we get them hololive en is done in the west.

>>13822952
I thought she was a predator? losing to Matsuri...

>>13822810
Mutts hour purisu undastand

>>13821370
Everyone's gotten purged except for Chloe, who is inexplicably gaining unrealistic amounts of subs in a similar fashion.

>>13823014
Where's nijiEN? I thought anons said they make as much money as EN?

>>13823123
i would keep an eye on it.
it might take them away

>>13822634
3 is one of the top earning Noripros, she's on here pretty often. Never heard of the others though.

>>13822635
Oh look, the MUH CHEMISTRY retard is back.

>>13821965
Lamy, Nene, and Aloe were successful big names?

>>13822038
I didn't mention NijiEN at all, calm your horses retard.
No, what I'm saying is that Bora wouldn't have those numbers without having apex and japanese. I'm not taking her merit out, I'm simply saying how she did it with agency branding. You can't possibly think for a minute that those people in nijisanji or hololive would have those numbers without being associated right? They are talented but they need branding.

>>13823174
ofc they did, anon. those are JUST SC

>>13823043
*yawn*

>>13822681
FUCKERS WATCH THE DAMN DEBUT AND GET THAT 300K CCV

>>13823174
Anon you will summon nitpicking retards, let them cope and seethe LMAO

>>13823030
not all viewers are as valuable as each other. Having a bunch of dead viewers does nothing for a streamer. Ask gura

>>13823229
>agency branding
If anything the very name "NijiKR" is holding her back.
The branding does nothing in her context, unless you meant branching out to the likes of Towa and VSPO.

>>13823229
>branding
Reminder

>>13823043
>we broke 10k ccv
pfff

>>13822284
>>13822434
You're aware that Ethyria has been getting tons of SC and that Nina is already 100k right? And that many of their straems are over 1k, 2k and 3k?
Also how did Selen even roast them or anything?

>>13823014
>Lamy can't beat an independent streamer even with a birthday buff
remind me again who said gen 5 were successful?

>>13784250
I actually hope she'll never overtake Pekora in numbers, out of some hipster impulse.

>>13823174
The entire NijiEN together barely beat Myth by 6k$. Now throws IRyS ($25,228) and Council ($67,644) in. That anon has a funny definition of "as much as"

>>13823279
>does nothing
>taco bell
>also pic related

>>13823279
No need for guesses, do your homework

>13823279
>this viewer matters more than that viewer because xyz Bilibili score calculating systems

>>13823318
>>13823333
You seriously think Bora would have those connections and numbers without being associated to nijisanji? Why do we even make those numbers or anything if you guys think they could get those numbers without the agency debuting them as vtubers? I'm not denying bora's merit, I'm literally a fan of her, but I'm also not going to act like she doesn't have an advantage against other indies.
With that said, I do believe that bora would be much bigger if she was in Niji JP than in KR.

>>13823394
When will consulate japan recognize nijiEN? Anon said Niji is no.1 chuuba group

>>13823414
Now that i look at it gura has only 14 streams this month.
LAZY SHARK but she really needs to take care of herself.

>>13823513
I was supporting the idea that branding was important, you idiot

>>13823352
Let me add to this anon - Ethyria is literally the wave that earned the most SCs among NijiEN last month, be it total amount or average amount of SC per member. Their CCVs might still have a lot of room to grow, but at least they are playing their SC game well among NijiEN
For reference:
Ethyria - 60,436
Lazulight - 43,982
Obsydia - 31,598
(add in Council for the sake of comparison - 67,644)
If any of NijiEN wave is going to beat a HoloEN group in any metric in near future, it'd be Ethyria against Council in term of SC

>>13823279
>Having a bunch of dead viewers does nothing for a streamer
let me introduce to Vtuber with the biggest amount of member subscriptions

>>13823394
When will consulate japan recognize holoJP? they would rather recognize holoEN over holoJP even though last samurais claim JP is more popular

>13823685
>oh no they're stomping my midgets, better start another timeloop

>>13823513
Then why are all the NijiKRs struggling the 3 and 2 view territory? It’s not because they’re not talented because a lot of them are. The fact that it took a literal Korean supersoldier to break out of struggle numbers is honestly more damning than not. If Bora had started at Vspo she could be in Nose numbers by now if not more on top of having the same connections.

>>13823630
And people said donator thanking streams off the bat were bad, kek

>>13823343
I think Risu is my favorite smug holo.

Mumei got 10k

10k get, as expected for a minecraft stream

>>13823218
Nene was just about big enough that her artstyle was enough to get herself doxxed, but that doesn’t mean much.

>>13823748
They might have been bad for CCV, but clearly they helped Ethyria a lot in SC department. It's taking them a bit of time to open memberships, but I'm interested to see if they are going to do that well in term of getting members too

>>13823839
What is this? I can't read moonrune

>>13823733
They aren't struggling, those are fine numbers, not great but still fine enough. Anyway, point is, I don't agree with this mindset. Do you think everyone from nijisanji would have those numbers without nijisanji? You seriously think Kuzuha, Kanae, Mito, Lize and many others that have 20k, 10k, 5k would have those numbers? Do you believe selen would get 3k when she was getting less than 100 before? Many of those people are getting 5x, 10 or even 50x more than in theri past lives. This goes also for hololive btw, but with bigger numbers.

>>13823685
Retard, AnimeNYC is meant to promote Japan content, guess why hololive is in there and not EN twitchfags.

>>13823748
that destoryed their viewrship and potential initla growth.
As some say for they to achieve such SC numbers they need to stream far more than council. After tomorrow stream hours come you will see the difference.

>>13823863
Mumei casually getting 10k on a random monday. It's over nijien fags

>>13823394
They’ve even acknowledged the B-29s alongside the Black Ships.

>>13823912
NTA, I'm guessing nips are busy talking about the shut down of anycolor's yumenographia

>>13823839
must be the cabaret club, they are getting cancelled

>>13823630
Are holokek viewers bots or something? How is their new wave barely higher than a bunch of holostars tier midgets? I think it's time to give credence to the Cover using bots for everything theory.

>>13823043
>we broke 10k ccv
>>13821773
>damn 9.4k.
>>13821324
>9.1k by the way.
>>13821115
>They hit 8.7k in the mario kart collab. Today they've hit 8.9k.
you tryed>>13823863
https://youtu.be/eVTXPUF4Oz4?t=55

>>13822967
who?

>>13823733
"If" Bora was in VSPO is an irrelevant speculation. She's in NijiKR, and if she weren't in NijiKR she wouldn't have had these connections. The brand helped. Sure, being in hololive or VSPO would've helped MORE but that wasn't the point being made here, it doesn't change the fact that the brand helped.

welp thread is a mess but giving a try

No one mentioned this one yet it seems but aside from Bora graduation, this collab probably will be the biggest thing from Niji today

https://youtu.be/cwy2Ojmnbic

Kanae + Mayuzumi + Lauren + Leos (well there's Genzuki too but he can't bring as much people as the other guys)

Alright, the owl's been streaming for 20 minutes now, enough time for people to filter in.

What's NijiEN's combined concurrent viewer total now?

>>13823977
so you're saying holoEN is a more popular representative of Japan content than holoJP? glad we agree

>13824048
Based nitpicking retard, at least compare top NijiEN sc earner to top HoloEN sc earner or nijikeks are scared that they will never win if they nit pick?

Aqua redebut stream as "HoloX's 6th member" due to her being the founder of Hololive resistance in the past.
How well do redebuts perform?
https://youtu.be/JSitZSYYzfA

>US apex players are far better

Apex pros like euriece and snipe already said tokyo servers are far more sweaty than us servers and feels more like scrim matches. US rank apex players are just gorillas and unga bunga everyone in the game. You have plenty of pros complaining about the state of us apex rank because they can't get decent practice from it. Emperor hal and astel switched to us servers and had an easier time climbing there because you just need to avoid first round fights to get good placement. Selen is just a high diamond player from my observation, predator rank is easier to reach in the old days.

.t master rank player

>>13824154
5649

>>13823685
Why do you think abe retired? He joined holostars

>>13824203
Kiara moves lmao

>>13824166
yeah hololive is more popular than nijisanji