/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1361863
If you hate western women enough to call them roasties unironically just give up on western vtubers

Get that voice changer all the babiniku use. It's fake sounding, but good enough for me

>>1361863
1. Don't hire Americans.

>>1361863
Roastie voice is not hard to get rid off just needs some practice.

>>1361863
Transorbital lobotomy shows a marked improvement in 70% of all cases.

>>1361863
better idea
reps

>>1361863
I don't know but I wish there were some sort of regulation on this shit because I truly lament good design after good design wasted by incompetent, talentless, western faggots who have neither the personality nor voice to fit the character.

>>1361881
Not him there are ones that don't like Kana. But God damn dude most of the western ones sound either like a total jizztubes or have such bad uptalk they could be an NPR reporter.

>>1361863
You can't, they don't care enough to work on their voice unlike their Japanese counterparts.

>>1361899
The US and Canadian Asian girls are the only English speakers I can have heard pull off anything remotely pleasant sounding

Futakuchi has very cool voice, and I got excited by it, but seemingly even she is a SEA girl. Not a western vtuber...

Go back to /r9k/

Kyuotto is a whore.

>>1361881
Please calm down, roastie.

>>1362268
Rose sounds nice too. Seriously all these girls need to do is put in a little effort to sound happy and charming

>>1362268
And so is this dumb bitch you keep trying to force. Almost all western v-tubers are whores, and this cunt is just another flavor.

>>1361863
Ask Towa

>>1361863
Honestly it can't be fixed. Women raised in the west have a certain way of speaking that signals to men that their vagina has been thoroughly used and is open to new occupants. Maybe it's a corruption that happens to them through interacting with dozens/hundreds/thousands of males throughout their life and adopting their masculine speaking style, but listening to western women talk just gives me a gross feeling.

Your best bet is finding ones that are socially stunted like Kana and have never interacted with men outside of the internet. Those girls still talk like females and have yet to be corrupted, though they may end up being corrupted later like Nyanners and ending up as roasties.

Somehow this doesn't apply to Japanese vtubers even though the majority of them have boyfriends. Maybe because Japanese culture discourages women from adopting a masculine speaking style they instead learn to amplify their femininity in their voice to attract mates? Who knows.

>>1362443
Bro all they need is money just look at Ame

>>1362443
take your bluepills anon
jesus

>>1362058
Ina is more than remotely pleasant sounding, friend.

>>1362443
“masculine” speaking style is just their natural relaxed voices. the high pitched nasally shit is a product of women being so desperate for the sexual approval of males they change their entire identity around it. one of those types sound like whores and it’s not the former.

>>1362504
That was admittedly a shitpost but honestly it's true that western vtubers have a very gross way of speaking. I tried watching Juniper the mothgirl because her design is amazing but her voice and way of speaking are fucking awful. Why can't western women have cute voices, even the ones that do professional ASMR work? Like they can "cute" it up for ASMR but then the moment they speak normally it becomes awful.

>>1362615
>true that western vtubers have a very gross way of speaking
I think a lot of them don't even realize they are doing it because no one has ever complained about their voice IRL and that is just how most westoid women speak. These girls are probably scratching their heads wondering why they aren't getting the numbers they expected.

I dont even think its her voice she just seems boring as fuck.

>>1362443
meds

>>1362615
nah dont worry man just having fun
now that i think about it most female musicians i listen are asians

>>1361863
Leave them die, unironically, that's how capitalism intended to

So are Westerns always going to be looked down upon because of the lingering influence of /jp/ or will things change one day?

>>1363396
It's got nothing to do with /jp/'s influence and everything to do with the fact that this site was made to discuss Japanese media. It's never changing.

>>1362365
oba-san voice is not roastie voice, anon.

>>1363396
>So are Westerns always going to be looked down upon
Not if they learn how to emulate the culture correctly

>>1363396
>or will things change one day?
That's up to themselves and wether they can actually produce good content.

>>1363396
Not all westerns are looked down on. People generally like Kana and others who keep their head down and actually behave as a vtuber should. Vshojo and the twitter dramawhores and grifting slut-tubers will always be looked down on though.

>>1363396
western faggots live in another world they aint changing

>>1363396
Gura is the most talked about vtuber on this board. Sorry that people don't like your whores anon.

>>1362581
>the high pitched nasally shit is a product of women being so desperate for the sexual approval of males they change their entire identity around it.
Did you learn that in women's studies?

>>1362268
Your oshi is a roastie
Stfu

>>1362615
I've only seen clips of Juniper so far, but what I've seen gives me the same vibe as Mori so I'm inclined to like her

>>1361863
what does roastie voice sound like

>I left /jp/ and am upset that things aren't exactly the way I want them to be how could this possibly happen?

>I have horrible taste and am upset that things aren't exactly the way I want them to be how could this possibly happen?

>>1363859
take a break and step away from the computer pal

>>1363658
backroom talk, one of the Japanese language teachers, a native JP.

>>1364394
I think you just go the opinion of some bitter J-roastie

>>1361863
Just watch Dutchwomen.

>it's another muh Jap girls good, western woman bad thread
You'll never be japanese
who cares faggot, just watch Japanese women only then.

>>1363803
Anything not really high pitched

>>1361863
Actually, west have no control in talent. Just like how American voice acting is messed. Western Vtubers don’t pass audition so they voice are not trained at all.
Plus, western females are prideful on the wrong things. I made an acquaintance emulate a cute pitch for jokes, and she did it after a few tries, but after fun time passed she expressed to prefer dying than using a stupid accent.

>>1362615
>Why can't western women have cute voices
You've unironically spent too much time watching anime and vtubers that you've conflated the inflection and character voices they do to sound "cutesy" with their actual speaking voices, you probably have little to no interactions with IRL eastern women and have no point of reference what they sound like if you catch them on the street, most weaboos are like this.
As to why most western women don't do cutesy voices? it sounds unnatural in english and most them of can't pull it off without sounding like they're playing a character and are too self-aware/self-conscious to try.
If it truly bothers you that much than just stick to watching JP chuubas, the phonetics of english itself doesn't sound right when forcing yourself to speak in a higher-pitched voice.
TL;DR: You will NEVER be japanese.

Do anons unironically want the funimation dub voices in real life?

>>1366127
>it sounds unnatural in english and most them of can't pull it off
All you have to do is not sound like you work for Vice or NPR. There are plenty of English speakers that can do it

>>1366127
not my problem fuck off

>>1361863
Listened to her voice. Sounds like every World of Warcraft raid leader's wife that will inevitably cause a shit ton of drama.

>>1363803
>what does roastie voice sound like
Mori. She unironically sounds like a boy

>>1366575
Heh that's funny because I witnessed that happen like 8 months ago and their voices actually sound similar.

>>1362615
There's a sora clip where she shows and compares a bit her "sora voice" and her natural voice, also mentions how she produces the sound. Might be worth watching if youre curious about women's voices.

>>1366446
>All you have to do is not sound like you work for Vice or NPR
What the fuck does even mean? lmao go outside

>>1366575
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>1362443
Imagine unironically thinking that women doing lolibait baby voice while playing a character with titties rigged to wiggle when they move aren't faking every aspect of their voice and personality.
Your pure 2D waifu is actually a 3D whore who talks to males and would hate you if she met you. Cope.

>>1366856
take a whitepill, jesus

>>1366127
>You will NEVER be japanese.
thank god
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

>>1365267
just admit youre a pedophile lmao. women with squeaky ass voices are emulating children

>>1367310
Real children sound annoying

>>1366127
It sounds just as unnatural when youre fluent in Japanese. Weebs are highly delusional in their fetishizing of Japanese women

>>1366959
>suicide rates
Who cares. Imagine being a manlet.

>>1361863
>enter this bitch's stream
>aw that's a cute avatar
>roastie raspy voice
Nope

>>1367342
so does every high pitched jap vtuber

>>1362504
>bluepills
You mean viagra to fuck all those western sluts

>roastie
that is literally every single western whores. You can't fix what's already broken that is the entirety of western women.

>>1366856
The amount of seething in this thread is amazing. Insulting vt and the average vtuber audience will surely change their mind kek

>>1361893
what's it called?

>>1361863
the average western woman has no concept of moe and are therefore mentally incapable of fixing it despite being physically capable.

>>1362615
western society encourages women to develop a deeper register and vocal fry to be taken more seriously as equals to men.
asian women have more of a focus towards femininity and cutesyness leading to them all talking in a higher pitched voice.

the only way to fix it is for the woman to probably become a weeb and shun their society at some level.

>>1361863
Honestly if anyone has an example of a soft moe voice in English, then please give me an example. I don't think it's possible with English but I'd like to be proven wrong.

>>1361863
>watching westernshit
>not watching gundou mirei instead

REtard

>>1369192
Deep voices can still be cute though.

>>1369347
True that is

are people just arguing over what they think the voice is? anyone have an example because everyone here is talking about different things right now.

>>1369483
here's your western loli voice
https://twitter.com/kyuotto/status/1351278099564924928

>>1369578
that... just sounds like a regular talking voice...

>>1369628
and it really doesn't fit her avatar at all

>>1362351
Have you even tried watching Rose?

>>1369683
Calling it a "roastie" voice is pretty stupid, and it's a retarded term that only faggots from /r9k/ use.

....are you guys talking about the uwu voice? the fuck is a "roastie" voice?

>>1369733
I saw her in the collab with Koopa, she didn't really stand out.

>>1363396
Not even influence of /jp/, but the ripple effect from earlier wave of western streamers set the norm of titty streamer culture.
Like the thread have said, Koopa, Ina, and Kani are examples of good voice.
And today, all the documentary youtube channels use this specific roastie voice that is just grating, or they'll hire a diversity voice.
And to be impartial, even Mori have roastie voice, but at least her true personality and content makes it up for it.

>>1369240
Trading a western indie for a legit Japanese whore, why are you like this?

>>1369578
That voice does not fit the character at all, its too jarring. JP vtubers change the fuck out of their voice if they go for a loli character, prolonged use strains their vocal cords which is why most don't go for those characters.

>>1369753
every adult white woman voice is a roastie voice
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/938583984?t=00h06m55s

>>1367350
Imagine trying to do the "weebs" shit while watching women pretend to be cute/hot anime girls.

>>1369578
Holy fuck did we need an entire thread dedicated to sperging out over this woman with an extremely normal ass sounding voice?
I thought she was gonna sound like nails on a chalk board but she just sounds like the average american from the mid-west
THIS is it? even Coco sounds worse than this

>>1369816
I never saw the point of hate-watching people, don't you have better things to do?

>>1369921
i guess we accidentally took up important space on the catalog for more important vtuber topics like annoying orange, anti-chink general, and future rrat theories.

>>1366127
Your so smart dude. I'm glad this board has you to show others their stupidity.
>As to why most western women don't do cutesy voices? it sounds unnatural in english
Yeah man, that's why the most popular English vtuber has such a natural mid range voice.

>>1366127
they're playing a character though, that's the point. everyone knows anime characters don't even talk like normal japanese people do, but that's part of the point. you're playing the role of an anime character.

>>1369578
I hate her already

>>1363396
i think there'll always be a clash between JP and EN only viewers. the streaming culture between the east and west is just too different.

>>1369813
>western indie
>not whore
>trading whore to a whore

You what

>>1362443
what the fuck anon

>>1361863
I'm not annoyed by it. If anything, it silences the minors that think she's an actual child.

>>1362615
Is that the one drawn by slugbox who's Mother's Basement's whore e-thot wife? Cause if so, avoid that disgusting bitch like the plague. She literally screams about muh loli is pedo shit 24/7. She's so bad that other e-thots called her out on it.

>>1366882
how many different types of pills do i have to take to post on this website

what happens if i take all of them at once

>>1366127
Roastie voice is actually pretty lifeless as a vtuber like Kyuotto and when they try to be funny it just becomes fucking noisy and loud like whores on twitch. Western vtubers don't even have cool low pitched voice like Towa, Ange, Flare, and Mana (Filipino vtuber). They fucking need practice.

>>1371592
Kyu doesn't do noisy and loud shit but it's true she needs more practice.

How do we stop roasties from infiltrating our well cultured japanese hobby? It's getting worse each passing day and unironically using the virtual "youtuber" tag and only streams in the whore(twitch) platform.

>>1372268
the answer is for all of us to grow a pair and stop being pussy ass little misogynistic bitches about it not that hard, anon

>>1372268
Tuber isn't short for youtube, tube is slang for television. And it's not like youtube isn't full of whores.

>>1372268
The answer is the same. Harassment and trolling until they leave. But you pussies will never do it.

What her voice type though?

>>1361863
>>1362029
>>1362443
I hate to break it to you anons but the japanese can be just as much of a roastie as American girls. I'm an average looking white dude but when I was in Kyoto I could jump on Tinder and find a japanese girl wanting foreign dick withing a few hours. I can guarantee they sounded like at least one of your favorite vtubers. The only reason you think it sounds better is because you don't understand the language.

>>1371590
there's an order to it
>how many different types of pills do i have to take to post on this website
first you take several redpills over the course of a few months
you'll inevitably take some blackpills by accident, so you'll need to counter them by a number of whitepills (talking to sensible people, reading good literature, leaving 4chan for a while)
hopefully by the end of this process you'll have left 4chan for good
>what happens if i take all of them at once
you become the ultimate shitposter whose only purpose on this earth is to be contrarian

>>1372589
>whose only purpose on this earth is to be contrarian
god fucking damn if that ain't the truth

>>1371524
I'm not sure, but Juniper's also an anti-loli retard.

>>1372711
Sauce?

>>1372924

>>1373048
Tried to find that tweet but she seems to have deleted it?

>>1373099
archive.is/0zuwM

Try harder, senpai.

>>1373099
https://twitter.com/Egocider/status/1097405224409391106
Should still be up

>>1373127
Guess twitter was fucking up

>>1373048
>>1373154
What a hypocrite though. She is following bunch of people who are explicit loli/shotacon

>>1372589
Don't listen to this anon, all you get is a crippling emptiness once your ego dies

>>1373048
she was also trying to profit on the streamer market

>>1373048
i am playing with my fiendishly large cock while looking at explicit pictures of gawr "gura-chan" gura RIGHT NOW and there is literally not a goddamn thing she can do about it

>>1373195
And here's something more recent in case anyone's thinking her views may have changed, but this one's been deleted.
>>1373249
Based.

>>1373048
>kermit suicide

>>1373048
Based

Anything non-exotic sounds "roastie" to you motherfuckers.

Look at >>1362058
>The US and Canadian Asian girls are the only English speakers I can have heard pull off anything remotely pleasant sounding

Weeaboo just wants exotic bitches. Y'all the same as white chicks who want black dudes.

>>1373321
facts

>>1373321
You should tell the Ina thread that.

>>1373048
Her design is entirely ripped off from a /ss/ shota rape doujin. Not even like "consensual" /ss/ but actual rape.
How the fuck was she not cancelled for that lmao?

>>1373321
Honestly I disagree, Mori isn't Asian she's a white girl from California and yet sounds pretty good. It's not like the roasties have a natural speaking style, their voice is even more fake than the Asians.

>>1373373
Yeah not to mention the part where the dude's loli rape-daughter rapes him too. Anti-lolicons have no fucking clue how prevalent this kind of stuff is in Japanese media.

>>1373281
Once an anti lolicon, always an anti lolicon.

>>1373424
I'm sure she knows she just doesn't expect the people watching her to know where she ripped it off from. If anyone calls her out she'll just accuse them of being a pedophile for knowing and her orbiters will mindlessly join her side because it sounds "woke" to accuse weebs of pedophilia.
I'm not one of those rabid anti-SJW retards but the hypocrisy when it comes to loli/shota characters in the anime community is worth calling out when Twitter whores get uppity.

>>1373373
>>1373424
>>1373456
What is the manga it's lifted off from, anyway?

>>1373469
Shiragasane by Sakekan Memorial

>>1369921
The voice isn't bad by itself, but when you see the character it's supposed to come out of it's fucking awful.. Nothing to do with the "roastie" shit OP and most people are talking about here.

>>1373469
https://exhentai.org/tag/artist:solopipb
It's a series of /ss/ doujins by this artist

>>1373321
There's nothing exotic about an Asian leaf, anon.

>>1373493
>118 seconds to /ss/ rape doujins
I am impressed and disturbed in equal measure

>>1369921
This girl sounds like an obese southeast asian living in the west coast US/Canada. What makes you think she sounds midwestern?

>>1373048
>society that sexualizes real minors mad cartoons not included in japan's cp ban

>>1372268
You can't. It's ingrained in roastie culture to wreck and take credit for what other women did, especially women of different ethnicity. All we can do is ignore them and hope they attract the twitch kiddies

The fuck is roastie voice? How does it even sound like?

>>1374003
I'll show you a fucking roastie voice.
https://youtu.be/ufpOOLzIWSE?t=5430

>>1374003
it sounds like every single 20 something year old woman you've ever met at a club or bar

>>1372484
No, I heard Japanese women don't have sex until they get married.

>>1372307
>misogynistic
Go back to >>>/lgbt/
Go back to >>>/twitter/

>>1374069
i'm sorry i have to do this you anon
i still still prefer eastern streamers because they understand moe at least

>>1373048
I mean, she's right, I'm just not ashamed

>>1374118
At least do you think the rates are smaller for vtubers since they seem to mainly be shutins?

>>1361863
i like mousey's voice

>>1373321
>Y'all
Spoken like an offended wh*te woman

>>1374205
sure for hololive at least, since they're mostly severe inkya

>>1361881
We can have English speaking vtubers alright, they just have to be Orientals from like Singapore.

My oshi Milkyqueen has a lovely voice but I'm not sure if she counts as western or Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1G6D2RAih8

>>1374118
Anon this is just a list of countries ordered by population...how embarrassing...

>>1362581
Vocal fry and other shit tier trends are most certainly not "natural relaxed". It takes effort to sound like a garbage compactor.

>>1374319
lots of western indies are Asian American/Canadian

>>1361863
It's the american accent. I can listen to british or even australians just fine, but american english just sounds so fucking lazy and bitchy by default.

>>1374421
It's not really the same. We're not really talking about a racial problem but a cultural one. Western women are just raised wrong and encouraged to talk like men to be taken seriously by a patriarchical society that doesn't respect women.

Eastern women are praised for their femininity and encouraged to be cute and kind rather than masculine and brash. Even though they may be just as big of whores they're much more in tune w/ their womanhood and this is attractive to males.

stupidest thread in the board, congrats OP

>>1374089
>OH NO YOU SAID BIG SCARY WORD. GO BACK!!11!

What the hell is a roastie voice??

>>1374349
a foolish mistake on my part
pic related is credible, but only has selected countries

>>1361863
Dumbass here , what is roastue voice sound like

>>1374571
a female voice that they can understand.

>>1374441
Where’s those british vtubers? Ame didn’t really pan out

>>1374610
Kani Kanizawa

>>1374577
>Turkey
>14
Let me guess. The respondents were heavily on the sexually free side since actual conservative Muslims wouldnt bother answering

>>1374582
Ange, apparently

>>1374582
Barbara Genshin Impact English dub.

Her voice lines got changed from roastie to something similar to the JP voice in update 1.3

>>1373321
>Y'all
you have to go back

>>1361863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ailz2q5aDSE

Speaking of roasty voices. An anon shared this link in a thread before, and to this day it's the worst I've ever heard. Imagine listening to this daily.

>>1374571
It's a dreadfully vague term, but I suspect that it refers to the sort of scratchiness or croakiness often associated with "older" women (age 30 and up).

>>1374631
Turkey has a large minority of Christians and like all Christians they are whores yes.

>>1374672
Maybe he's just from Texas, why the hate for Texans?

>>1374610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OALOsql0Zw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CxQrKypZs

>>1374610
They're around. A lot of them put on fake quasi-american accents though. While others will go full bri'ish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CxQrKypZs

>>1373321
>non-exotic
>a quarter of the posters are spics and seanigs who are sick and tired of entitled roastie voices too
why do roasties think that the only people who exist in the internet are them and white males?

>>1374610
https://youtu.be/T9ff9m0suuw

>>1374793
When was the last time you had a bo'ohw'o'wo'er.?

>>1374803
Do you really have to ask why non-white dudes are invisible to roasties? You already know the answer.

>>1361863
Ironicly with more deepthoating.

compare holo EN vs holo ID speaking english

>>1374989
Ollie and Reine sound more roastie than any Holo EN.

>>1374610
https://youtu.be/WSiPByY-8rY

>>1362581
vocal fry isn't a natural relaxed voice. it's just a recent trend among young women in the west.

>>1361863
Her voice isn't terrible. But my god does it NOT suit the character model.

take the Kanapill

>>1375061
Thank you for explaining why western women offend my ears. We can all go home now.

>>1375140
and it's unfortunately not going to go away for at least a few generations. it's a pop culture staple of the anglosphere

>>1375140
and it's unfortunately not going to go away for at least a few generations. it's a pop culture staple of the anglosphere

https://twitter.com/VTuberCringe/status/1369588847009406977?s=20
Hey put me in the screencap next time you faggot

>>1375564
>guy who browses /vt/ looking for screencaps to get social media clout is a faggot
whodathunkit

>>1361893
I prefer their natual voice.

At first i thought that was ironmouse and i was ginns a sayiribbmouse sounds pretty cute honestly

>>1374582
Kyuotto. Ignore that jealous and lazy Amerimutt Faggot saying Ange who's popular as fuck in the jp vtuber scene. Western roastie don't even have any good low pitched voice either.

>>1374793
>glutinous maximus

>>1374610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz4ggXSceOo

>>1376194
I like Ange though, all I'm getting from this thread is that all indies, not even just western, with an average pitch or lower are roasties or that most of you don't bother trying to find a good one

>>1378586
it's not "average pitch", it's this >>1375218
people automatically associate this style of speaking with the kardashians

>>1374577
>Switzerland
>double Germany
Just fucking how? Our culture isn't that different from theirs. It's even more than France, even though they are famous for trying to seduce everything? What the hell.
But alright, strengthens my resolve to not get involved with IRL roasties.

>>1378657
Maybe there's a bias in statistical reporting

>>1374610
Any Manchester slag vtuber?

>>1376194
Yeah, roastie voice is not ikeman voice.
But I guess people see anything that isnt mousey as whoreish.

>>1378708
Need Yorkshire vtuber

>>1374441
>>1374800
>American accent
Which one? There's probably a dozen of them.

>>1378645
Isn't that just the valley girl accent? Just avoid all West coast indies then lol

>>1378800
Anon all indies are from the west coast. The rest of the US is a barren wasteland of braindead bucktoothed hicks that can barely operate a computer.

>>1362268
>Kyuotto
>its just a pun for cute

What the fuck

>>1378780
probably
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_American_English
the midwestern accent that mass media adopted.

>>1366959
what the fuck is happening in Denmark?
>>1366127
okay but I don't care though if it's hard, most of the things they do as a vtuber are extremely easy and mostly require money. they could be a little talented and have a pleasant voice or interesting personality. Ame sounds very much western-woman-like but she is fun to watch due to her sheer autism.
>>1372484
jap chicks love white chinpo

>>1379059
>the mid-atlantic accent never became mainstream
kuso timeline

>>1376194
After listening though a few clips, Kyuotto doesn't really have much of a fry, it's more of a mismatched voice and avatar and op is using a really vague term to describe a manner of speech

>>1374563
I'm sorry roastbeef, but I'm afraid he isn't scared of your words. He just knows what type of person uses em and is telling you that you ain't welcome.

>>1378888
Rip Canadian chuubas

>>1379333
Even the Canadian chuubas like Ina are from Vancouver tho. The west coast of Canada has a massive asian population and therefore a ton of weebs absorbing their culture.

>>1379181
it's impossible for an accent to become mainstream when its literally made up by rich people so they can feel special that they speak an accent that no one in the world speaks natively.

>>1372589
>>1371590
You only need to take the BOGpill

>>1378800
no, pretty much every american accent has more or less started adopting vocal fry among 30 year olds and younger.

Imagine if women started calling men scrotoids. It would be bizarre and confounding like these incelposters.

>>1379698
well this is 4chan so...

>>1361863
Am I alone in liking her voice simply because I was expecting some super high fake western anime voice?

I'd think it'd work better once she gets her "true succubus" form she mentioned but honestly I can fall asleep to that voice of hers

>>1379698
in what situation would you use it?

>>1379839
When females blame males for their own shortcomings sexually or socially.

>>1379799
I don't mind it but her pitch really doesn't fit her appearance, thread somehow has derailed into accent discussion though

>>1374679
It always baffles me when disgusting fucks think that loudly and shamelessly doing this is somehow cool or acceptable. Usually only know it from guys though. Awful.

>>1374482
There's like no point in history when asian women (and men) weren't considered especially feminine by western standards.

>>1362268
I love Rose's accent so goddamn much

>>1379698
there's a place called cr*stal.caf* anon

>>1374577
>China at the bottom after killing all their women.

>>1372589
So what happens if I eat one of the blue ones?

>>1369578
Is she even trying? It's like she missed the voice change memo.
I know plenty of western girls can do a cutsey uguu UwU loli voice quite well.

>>1380433
what do you mean anon? you've already been eating them your entire life.

>>1378657
French are all bark no bite

>>1380204
And it was just as embarrassing as r9k

>>1369911
watching anime doesnt make you a weeb
fetishizing japanese women as being the peak of femininity makes you a weeb 100%

The only remedy to that is thick peculiar (and charming) accents or ESL vtubers

English is one ugly as hell sounding language. Thats why.

>>1375137
I don't like chickens
>>1379698
Wanna see something really funny? Google "Female Dating Strategy" and remember that it's not satire.

>>1380753
You will never be a Japanese woman

>>1380600
What do you mean, I've been munching on the grey ones

>>1380809
He is right though, English is an absolutely horrible language, it's the muddy septic tank of languages but hey, at least it isn't as bad as Chinese.

>>1374610
you got froot but shes a literal whore who cheated on her exhusband while he was deployed

>>1366127
You're hated because you're right.

>>1380753
Let me name some languages that sound much uglier:

Dutch
German
Danish
Urdu
Punjabi
Indonesian
Arabic
Vietnamese
Hindi

>>1379358
Ina lives on the east coast, probably halifax lul

>>1381068
No she definitely lives in Vancouver, this is well known.

>>1379698
scrote hands wrote this post

I like Abigail's voice.

>>1374738
Texas HATE

>>1374738
>texas
dont you mean california 2

>>1379912
Well the voice I hate so much would have fit better

>>1372589
>you become the ultimate shitposter whose only purpose on this earth is to be contrarian
Literally me

>>1380665
>fetishizing japanese women as being the peak of femininity makes you a weeb 100%
Are you implying they aren't?
The only ones who can even compete are anglos.

You will never be Japanese.

>>1383895
how many japanese women have you talked to?

Complain all you want, but there's a reason why your two bit western ENindie whores are getting 20 viewers.

>>1380813
You may want to get your eyes checked anon, I'm starting to get worried about you.

>>1384126
can you give 1(one) example of an indie whore that has sub 100 viewers and is discussed in western indie threads?

>>1379698
It sounds like an insult you'd hear from a 90's TV show bully. "Gimme your lunch money, scrotoid!"

>>1381024
Don't forget French and Chinese

>>1361991
>NPR reporter
But everyone likes that voice.

english speakers cant be feminine. simply they dont have the culture and on top of that masculine feminism and fucked up gender politics/critical theory are getting more and more popular in the west

Do you think the dorks on Japanese boards like 5chan say the same about Japanese women?

>>1383895
Thats exactly what Im implying. Japanese women in reality have bought into the coldhearted feminist salarywoman golddigger mentality harder than western women. Only weebs who form their opinions through anime and hentai games think otherwise

>>1384449
lol you sound like an sjw or a tranny managing to do critiacal thinking without criticising modern woke western standards. awkward but rare.

>>1384413
>english speakers cant be feminine*
*as determined by this incel's preconceived notions of what femininity is

>>1372479
Nazi Muppet

>>1384563
NTA, but that's not an argument, anon, it just makes you more of a weeb
Do you know anything about the work culture in Japan?

>>1373321
>exotic bitches
I'm an American the only race of women that are rare to see are white

>>1384563
Its the info I get from local sources. Youre welcome to take a trip to Japan and find out for yourself.

>>1380753
>english
>bad
You can convey more concrete concepts with English than with any other language. I would rather be speaking English than be stuck with some undeveloped shitpot of a language like Arabic or chinese that has to take loan words and uses (almost) only concepts to communicate ideas. The degree of specificity available in English is what makes it beautiful.
If you think it's ugly you are unable to fully grasp the possible depth. Go read a fucking book.

>>1384699
>You can convey more concrete concepts with English than with any other language.
Objectively wrong.

>>1384588
>this incel's preconceived notions of what femininity is

their femininity is basically being masculine. at least its true that theres no feminine character in american comics and cartoons and garbage liveaction. its actually pathetic that the "women" in the industry still have to struggle with reinventing western sailor moon or mahou shojo and cant anything feminine like that.

>>1361863
Mori's deeper husky voice is a god send and if anyone disagrees they're wrong

>>1384724
>their femininity is basically being masculine*
t. incel thinks that a woman behaving the way they want is "masculine" because he's never actually been with a woman who was comfortable enough around him to drop the facade that women put up in a patriarchal society because he's a fucking incel and a creep

>>1384749
>incel
Isn't there a Kiara anti thread you should be posting in right now young lady?

>>1384749
There are so many Redditors on this board I can't even tell if I'm getting trolled or not

>>1384755
Bro, 99% of the people on the Kiara anti threads are very obviously dudes (either regular ones or trannies)

>>1384714
>wrong
Provide examples. English is the ivory tower of still-living western language.

>>1384863
you can literally google this, anon

>>1379698
guys are already shit on in multiple ways like being ugly, being virgins, being introverted, being shy, etc. one more insult wouldn't do anything

>>1363594
>as a vtuber should
Like what? an idol?

>>1369809
>even Mori have roastie voice
Eh, she sounds more like a Karen

>>1385857

Why is every non hololive thread so awful? I'm shocked every time I poke my head out and read the god awful comments.

>>1385964
wdytwa?

>>1385964
this roastie voice issue should be discussed here cause other sites like reddit, twitter, etc never address it even though it certainly exists. westerners cant acknowledge their cultural flaw or inferiority especially when comparing it to another culture. its however wrong.

>>1384126
But Snuffy is getting more than that.

>>1385857
fuck off carlos

I am entertained by this thread. Thank you anons, keep going

Roasties mad itt

>>1384724
>at least its true that theres no feminine character in american comics
I mean you are right especially DC female characters are very dominating but then again male characters are also very masculine.

>>1386162
So what in your opinion should be done to this? Do all of them must have fake cute loli voice?

>>1369809
>even Mori have roastie voice
I just don't see it.

>>1386811
government sanctioned vtuber applications where you get denied if your voice doesnt match the character

>>1373527
I just like the happy couple spinoffs.

>>1386811
why are you generalising it such a stupid binary way? nobody here can do anything to vtubers.

by making it a criticism and spreading it even if its a buzzword, some aspiring vtuber might take it, and thats the purpose. "criticism like this shouldnt exist" argument is absolutely unproductive.

>>1361863


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsB_msyL6-c

Consciously making a habit of using a more appealing tone of voice is something lots of nipnongonese girls do - and it's a good thing.

Back in more civilized times in the west, people would have elocution tutors for their children specifically to cultivate more pleasant accentuation in speech, amongst other things.

>>1387063
Speech refinement is something I'm sure even Hololive does, you can tell there's a difference even in EN if you compare their current speech with forbidden knowledge.

>>1387170
Yeah I said it way earlier in the thread, Ame is proof English speaking women can do a pleasant voice if financially incentivized.

>>1387241
Her "seiso voice" sounds like exactly the voice women put on when theyre talking to a baby. I have no idea how adult men enjoy being spoken to like that

>>1379698
I would laugh because those women would be butthurt roasties.

>>1384331
>"Gimme your lunch money, scrotoid!"
What I wouldn't give to hear her say this

>>1384749
>facade that women put up in a patriarchal society
t. roastie

>>1374482
>By a patriarcal sociaty
Ugh yes those feminist really love men so much that they Make women talk like men

>>1387241
>i have an Oedipus complex and want women to talk to me like an infant because i'm developmentally stunted and don't know how people talk irl

>>1374482
Japan has a "patriarchal "society as well so why dont they have the same problems.

>>1388244
what is differences in culture

>>1362058
That's just like being a weeb with extra steps

>>1384714
highest IR

>>1386833
I don't see it either but I sure hear it.

>>1387983
>>1387431
It's a little more complicated than that.

Higher pitched voices are a more general indicator of vulnerability. It doesn't just apply to babies, though evolutionarily it makes sense that humans would evolve to become easily attached to a person speaking in a high pitched voice to want to protect young members of society.

Look instead at how couples speak to each other. Both men and women tend to adopt higher pitched, softer voices when speaking to someone they are interested in. They do it instinctively and react to it instinctively as well.

>>1388244
because japan's idea of a patriarchy is encouraging tradition, which means praising the concept of the traditional feminine woman.

meanwhile in the west women feel the need to be more masculine to be seen as equals to men.

>>1371524
>She literally screams about muh loli is pedo shit 24/7. She's so bad that other e-thots called her out on it
That just means she's likely is one and is trying hard asf to hide it. Seen this kind of things too many times.

>>1387024
Yeah but why can't two kinda of voices exists with vtubers? I personally like more deeper voices and that is probably reason why Mori is my favorite and on Japanese side they really don't have that outside of Coco.

>>1389672
So deeper voice woman don't exist in Japan?

>>1390151
they do, just not common enough to lower the national average vocal register, there's also a leaning more towards a ikemen type smoother voice, than the lower possible voice that leads to that raspyness.

>>1387983
Who are you quoting?

>>1390151
Why do you think Towa wasn't popular.

>>1390846
japs thought she got spitroasted

>>1369441
Ange's voice is fake.

>>1387431
>I have no idea how adult men enjoy being spoken to like that
y-y-yeah who would want something like that

>>1362443
based

>>1384863
schadenfreude has been taken in to English but there is still liebesleid.
Also whats the English equivalent for ガチ恋?

>>1391964
>English equivalent for ガチ恋?
>being in love with an idol, actor, etc., fan who is in love with an idol, actor, etc.
Stanning

>>1391964
stan

>>1367310
look up neoteny then go back

>>1374577
this is misleading